guild_community

[lean pagoda]

is there anyone that doesnt use forums

[shut perch]

I don’t regularly

[lean pagoda]

i find them a pain

[shut perch]

Most sizable guilds have a discord application too

[lean pagoda]

is there a specific one you would recomend

[shut perch]

I think all top guilds are fairly nice these days

So I wouldn’t recommend a specific one but if I must ano esi lxa pun

Hestia plug

[lean pagoda]

do you have their discord

[shut perch]

I do I can dm you them

[red monolith]

Interestingly enough, the majority of the biggest guilds in the game right now have women as guild owners or in some cases have a woman as a high ranked chief 2nd or 3rd in command

[lean pagoda]

yea i would appreciate that

[red monolith]

any guild active in guildwars would commit politicall suicide being sexist lmao

close some of your damn tabs

[shut perch]

I didnt even see that lol

[lean pagoda]

i dont need to

i got 64 gb of ram for a reason

48 for tabs

[shut perch]

festive

[lean pagoda]

16 for running games

[regal stream]

10/10 festive

[shut perch]

a friend festive-ized my normal skin

[lean pagoda]

10.1/10

[regal stream]

Did you make it yourself? :o

[red monolith]

Oh alright, i'll leave it be x) . Also what type of guild are you looking for anyway?

shit wrong quote

[ripe niche]

@lean pagoda join gyp

[shut perch]

the original was one I slightly edited but the Christmas jumper with nose and reindeer thing was made by friend

[regal stream]

Oo alright

It looks nice :>

[ripe niche]

it's so difficult taking terrs with a game that constantly crashes and wifi that constantly dips

like GYP ON TOP of course but goddamn

[plucky cedar]

Hehe. Laughs in Shy

[red monolith]

idk shy's situation anymore at this point xD

[plucky cedar]

We dont have a woman in command

[red monolith]

i guess it's not always a magic bullet

[plucky cedar]

Sometimes when you push stuff too hard you squeeze it

[red monolith]

considering how males dominate gaming, often even more so in the very competitive aspects

[plucky cedar]

Thats what happened in Shy. New guild capable of way more than what it could handle and yeah

[potent ibex]

literally all the best guilds are run by females

[red monolith]

seeing wynn break the norm is interesting

[potent ibex]

that is fact

[plucky cedar]

Simp?

[red monolith]

@dapper robin

[ripe niche]

GYP is an exception

[potent ibex]

Majority of our war leaders have been female

Our current is also

[dapper robin]

wat

why was i pinged

[plucky cedar]

Drew wasnt a girl

😳

I think

[potent ibex]

He was in Fox, which is owned by Ari

[red monolith]

i can always ping birdie

[plucky cedar]

I mean

But he was the leader of Fed as long as I remember

[cloud pier]

are we referring to drew as MALE now wtf

[red monolith]

he's the leader of the bunch

[plucky cedar]

But urby is the leader of our hearts

😳

[red monolith]

you know him well

He's finally back to kick some tail

His coconut gun can fire in spurts

[plucky cedar]

Aaaa

[red monolith]

IF HE SHOOTS YA

i have accepted my place as a semi-chaotic neutral anomaly

[plucky cedar]

Uhm

I probably shouldnt have said anything

[red monolith]

a constant balancing act to make sure i'm just barely more useful than i am destructive

so they don't get rid of me

[limber river]

small no women are allowed in dxi

[ripe niche]

dxi is good guild

i am friend with dxi

if i see dxi territory i leave dxi territory

[limber river]

good shit gyp

good shit

[ripe niche]

hackforums are the highest-member guild in the game right?

[red monolith]

define highest-member

[ripe niche]

highest amount of members

[red monolith]

ye

as in players currently and officially in their guild

they got the most

[ripe niche]

so why are they so sleepy

[red monolith]

could be a lot of things

[limber river]

because they got all their levels from abuse

[red monolith]

maybe they work nightshifts

[ripe niche]

every single captain+?

[toxic berry]

wtf

[red monolith]

i don't know that

[toxic berry]

r u telling me she wasn't???

[red monolith]

i am not in hax

[ornate forge]

Hax usually has excellent response time

[red monolith]

go test it :3

[ornate forge]

@cloud pier gogogogo

[cloud pier]

where

[ornate forge]

go

[plucky cedar]

😭

[cloud pier]

going

[limber river]

lol

[ornate forge]

[red monolith]

is this secret code?

[limber river]

yes

we all understand it

[red monolith]

yes

yes of course

[plucky cedar]

Technically true

[ripe niche]

enlighten me

[red monolith]

what year do you want to know about?

[potent ibex]

I mean

Hax just owned the map and kept pushing when wars were pretty darn broken

if that is what we are using to define "abuse"

a lot of people have done that

[queen radish]

[half musk]

everything you say concerns me

[red monolith]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-ratvu8vmQ

[ripe niche]

good fight @shut perch

[shut perch]

I mean atleast you got 80

[ripe niche]

yeah rip

[ripe niche]

any LXA high-ups here

wanna call you wankers

[quasi jolt]

Glitch abuse = bannable

[sweet elk]

Why wankers?

[hollow willow]

hamburger

[quasi jolt]

Coomers

[shut perch]

Zofs is cool 😦

[sweet elk]

Ty Cal

;D

[shut perch]

;D

[limber river]

alt warring?

for a man who loves to talk about how wynn admins have ruined all your hard work i find it interesting you accept things like that

[toxic berry]

yknow maybe we could have a * solution similar to the 101 prestige compensation for guild banks

[red monolith]

oh good you're here

[toxic berry]

only issue is that it can't really be done on a player basis cause guild hopping made current contribution stats irrelevant

[red monolith]

oh

while we're on a roll, can we ask to fix that?

if even justfor xp

[toxic berry]

wdym

[red monolith]

retain obtained guild xp

[toxic berry]

it's not like it's broken, the way we played it just made it useless

[red monolith]

when swapping guild

and going back

not carrying it over ofc

[toxic berry]

And fixing it now won't do much, doubt they retain saves for all previous guild xp donation values

[red monolith]

doesn't seem that unreasonable to keep a log of former members in a guild

and their xp count, so in the event that he or she rejoins it carries on

it's a minor gripe honestly but i mean might as well throw everything on the table now

we track it ourselves anyway

i was actually here for a different thing

mainly HQ's

[shut perch]

^would be cool and one less feature I needed to make for ano bot if xp was stored

[red monolith]

while a maxed out HQ tower is extremely brutal to defeat.

no doubt in my mind people are going to figure out how to beat it

so then what?

[toxic berry]

Oh shit I forgot to put in the lock suggestion

[red monolith]

even if they buff storage

you're just a top tier guild minding your own business

[toxic berry]

Aight so I am totally gonna update thread w it but the idea was

[red monolith]

saved up 300k resources on your HQ over the past 2 weeks

lalalala

then your HQ dies

first terr to go

all gone

[toxic berry]

that at a certain threshold of territories/production/whatever metric of success, you earn the option to lock a territory, rendering it immune to attacks till u drop below said threshold

[red monolith]

"has this ever happend to you"?

i can't judge that idea at face value,

[toxic berry]

It's a bit controversial I figured but really the only way, ppl will always find a way to cheese a HQ

[red monolith]

but i'd honestly just treat the HQ like an actual HQ

and give it physicall immunity under certain conditions

[toxic berry]

Ye that's what I am suggesting

[red monolith]

like you propose

but exclusive for HQ then

nothing else

[toxic berry]

yeah

works as well

[red monolith]

is what i was here to discuss

initially, before the full changelog

i thought from what salted hinted that at the HQ would be unattackable

until it had no connecting territories of its own left anymore

meaning you had to take out all the neighbors first

[toxic berry]

It's supposed to be, only that ppl will eventually find a way, even should it get buffed

So manual immunity rlly is the best bet

[ripe niche]

i like the idea of HQs but what determines if you're allowed to have a HQ?

[red monolith]

yea pretty much

never underestimate the community

[ornate forge]

u just need one terr then u can set it as ur hq

[toxic berry]

Oh HQs are a thing already, we're talking about Hero Beta @ripe niche

[ripe niche]

oh right

[red monolith]

i have been around in MMO's long enough

[ripe niche]

yeah i'm aware cath i don't have it tho

[red monolith]

to never fucking underestimate the community

[toxic berry]

Ye rn it's just a small fee

and yeah no I agree

I'ma update my thread rq

[red monolith]

might as well discuss more "radical" ideas here first

before taking to the forums with them and getting shot on sight for the mere mention of such herecy

you do have to balance the system against all situations

for example some fringe rando guild plonking down an HQ

then having just enough time to add some neighboring terrs

and becoming effectively a cancer

thats not fun and ought to be avoided, so more condition must apply, like maybe a threshold as you said

but where would you put it at

at what point does a guild "deserve" to lock up its HQ

not the easiest question

unless there's a beter way to avoid it being abused

that's something we can't leave to the admins because they just don't have the experience to properly asses all the situations that occur

like try to imagine the fox vs fux canyon skirmish in the 1.20 system and simulate how it would go

[shut perch]

take hq

[red monolith]

yes, go on...

[shut perch]

profit

with ease

[red monolith]

who took the hq

in this exhange

[shut perch]

both of them

[red monolith]

simultaniously

[shut perch]

indeed

I wasnt gonna try spelling it

but I was gonna say it

[red monolith]

idc if i mispel words

as long as my point gets across

a cross*

[shut perch]

yes

simultaniously

I tries

[red monolith]

but being serious i'm not too happy about the idea that any guild with a capable enough war group could nuke HQ's

capable group could be 4-5 people

so even rando's could potentially do it

[shut perch]

shy took ours with 2xKoH and 2x Abso

we havent bothered on hb until something gets improved

[red monolith]

i'm just going to assume it's possible by default

that makes imagining the necessity of more HQ protection all the more simple

and not just in the form of more tower strength

[shut perch]

the system itself needs changing

[red monolith]

the HQ-buffed tower should be the LAST LINE OF DEFENSE

not the only one

[shut perch]

hq shouldnt be able to be taken first

[red monolith]

yea pretty much

[shut perch]

or anything other than last really

[red monolith]

it needs some sort of immunity

but also got to consider situations besides a larger guild losing a war

like a rando guild attacking you at 4am

plopping down an HQ

and taking 3-4 terrs around it

[hollow willow]

just attack them back at 4 am

[red monolith]

then being a cancer that won't go away

i don't want this to turn into tribal wars

[hollow willow]

cancer is getting nerfed tho Xd

[red monolith]

i'm not getting up at 4am again

[shut perch]

I cant remember where it was but I thought claims were gonna need less surveillance than pre 1.20

[red monolith]

well technically you do need less if you just don't care about the HQ

[shut perch]

and shy solo took our 37 terrs in about an hour

[hollow willow]

even if we get more "home time" which forces me to attack guilds at 3 am

[red monolith]

but most people are going to want to care

you should be able to

just not go straight after the HQ

[hollow willow]

well you are able to

[red monolith]

honestly i'm even arguing from a position of power cuz AVO has a 24 hour response window

i'm talking about the mid-tier guilds

this isn't for me

i just want a fair fight

[hollow willow]

then remove mythics from wars Xd

[red monolith]

people would still find a way to kill a maxed hq

without them

[hollow willow]

it would make a fairer fight

[red monolith]

just assume they will find a way

if the HQ dies

your entire claim collapses

[hollow willow]

cAuSe noT eVeRYonz HasVe mYFIC

[wide shadow]

COOM

[rain glacier]

whoa guildpolitics is very lively today

[modest cloud]

Join red lotus guild best guild

[red monolith]

there was some pretty high level discussion going on on the vulnerabilities of HQ's

but didn't close it out.. tommorow i guess

[bold fable]

The new war system is just god awful in general

The way they decided to do it gives such an innate advantage to tank builds

And you practically need a shaman or mage to heal those said tank builds

Even worse when people can tank and heal with the same build as seen in abso

[modest cloud]

Tank mage

[bold fable]

That also exists but abso has the ability to deal out pretty nice damage with endurance stacking along with controlling any mobs in the war

[hollow willow]

well, tank and heal are pretty much related when it comes to mage and shaman anyway

[red monolith]

shaman is getting nerfed quite hard

as a class

abso also got a pretty fat nerf

so it won't be nearly as dominant as it was in the beta

[hollow willow]

I can now sleep in peace

[red monolith]

it was about time

frankly

[bold fable]

yeah but trift abso healing still beats the raids anyways that's all that really matters

[red monolith]

while i can't source on that

[bold fable]

But even if that got nerfed KoH would ruin it anyways

[red monolith]

i did hear they were trying to fix trift totemstacking

but it's tricky

[bold fable]

okay then it would just be KoH used then

[red monolith]

i don't think it's a bad thing that a dedicated healer is required

(though koh is a bit extreme)

as long as you don't have a "do it all" setup like abso provided

the war tower's difficulty mostly comes from it throwing fat damage numbers at you

and sporting high hp, with it's damage scaling over time

[flint shuttle]

can i be a koh main

[red monolith]

it's more an excercise of preperation rather than battle skill

and while that's not what most people expect, that is how things usually go in real life and other mmo's and it's leaps beter than what we have atm

[flint shuttle]

just have fuck tons of heals and reflection

ez

[red monolith]

yea honestly not the worst plan

as long as you can kill it in time before the damage scales out of control

[flint shuttle]

no its a stupid idea

[red monolith]

and starts 1 shotting

[flint shuttle]

absolutely stupid

its just funny

[red monolith]

i could screenshot that

for later

but i won't

[bold fable]

btw has anyone tested if the tower defense affects poison?

[red monolith]

i think fox did

[bold fable]

And?

[red monolith]

no idea, ask em

[flint shuttle]

someone get one of the furries

[red monolith]

it's possible that it bypasses tower defenses

making it worthwhile

[bold fable]

That's what I was thinking yeah but that'd be pretty ridiculous

[red monolith]

maybe a bit.. to much..

[flint shuttle]

i have no idea how effects like that effect the tower

ngl

[red monolith]

poison overall ignores defense

[flint shuttle]

i'd be interested in seeing how reflection and thorns work against it, though

[red monolith]

so if the towers defense is similar to a players defense

it should bypass it

[bold fable]

With heavy poison toxo you can get 50k poison tick per second using some scrolls and courage lol

[red monolith]

yea that's what i'm interested in

it might not be good enough to carry you but it could add some chip damage

considering you will be tanking loads of heavy damage anyway

[flint shuttle]

it'd be useful for heals tbh

[bold fable]

Thorns and reflection got buffed this update didnt they?

[flint shuttle]

idfk

[red monolith]

not that i know of

when they gonna nerf poison though?

[flint shuttle]

nerf poison in hunted*

[red monolith]

depending on how it behaves in wars

in general

[flint shuttle]

Poison isn't broken outside of pvp

[red monolith]

honestly i'm starting to suspect a similar situation to void valley - glowbulb

[bold fable]

Well pvp is broken in general

[flint shuttle]

well yeah

[red monolith]

where the CT team just wasnt aware the guild community was losing its shit at how broken it was

[flint shuttle]

nah we're aware

ct isn't that stupid

[red monolith]

you are, or you were

this was back when bulb was in the territory

[flint shuttle]

yeah at that point we just simply didnt realise that it was in the territory i believe

[red monolith]

is poison in hunted being discussed in CT exclusive channels? or better yet, are lead game designers aware of how strong it is in hunted?

[flint shuttle]

i think cath may've recognised how op they were because she's stated before that she wishes she'd finished doing the territories before leaving so we couldn't have abused bulb

but not sure

idfk but i'd assume so

[red monolith]

we also assumed they know about void valley/bulb

until we made a fat forum post about it

[flint shuttle]

i think the fact it was in a territory was just not noticed

but tbh it could also be that people simply didn't notice how strong of a grind spot it was

hence why it was removed this updaye

[red monolith]

what saddens me is this was discussed several times in the dev discord's guild chat

[flint shuttle]

update

[red monolith]

so how it didn't get picked up on from there

well suprised me

[flint shuttle]

the devs often dont decide things like that

[red monolith]

i figured they knew they just didn't care

[flint shuttle]

but like, don't assume we're that out of touch because plenty of us do play

xD

[red monolith]

communications seem really out of wack if not even a whisper makes it though to someone who can do something about it

[flint shuttle]

issues tend to take a while to be fixed though because often we're busy with other things

and map pushes often only happen at big updates & just after

[red monolith]

sure

but that wasn't one of these cases xD

it was fixed 24h after we took to the forums about it

was almost trivial to do

they just had no clue

[flint shuttle]

i think they knew

but i cant say they 100% did

[red monolith]

well it's a lesson learned

[flint shuttle]

but if y'all see issues like that point them out i stg

dont just expect people to find out through the grapevine

[red monolith]

taught us to just never assume they know about it even if it's being talked about here and there

[flint shuttle]

yea

[red monolith]

next time we'll prob go straight to the forums

[flint shuttle]

just in general assuming that people know isn't the best way of dealing with things

[red monolith]

and crap out a post with 100 likes within the 1st hour

well it comes at a price for them

[flint shuttle]

because especially in communities like guilds, they aren't filled with people who can easily pass the info just through talking

lol

[red monolith]

cuz the glowbulb situation could have gotten worse from there

some of the changes that were made earlier this year almost sparked a full blown riot

[flint shuttle]

oh yeah the forum post would've made the glowbulb situation worse had it not been fixed

[red monolith]

out of collective artemis

[flint shuttle]

wasn't here for them i think

I wasn't on minecraft or in wynn's community at all January through March

[red monolith]

i think either the discord link ban or a miscommunication about changes to the rules on shouts

[flint shuttle]

& was out of the guild community for most of the year

[red monolith]

almost spiralled out of control

due to lack of communication on both

and frankly i couldn't blame the guilds

i was totally ready to riot

[flint shuttle]

frankly, i can

@clever lotus yooo you're not a trial anymore?

[red monolith]

that's weird

that'd you'd blame guilds for wanting answers on why discord links were blanket banned with no proper explanation as to why that was the decision

salted gave us one this september

6 months or so after the facts

[flint shuttle]

tbh, i think its pretty obvious why discords links were banned

and regardless, its not exactly up for discussion when its made a rule, we play this server and we respect the rules to do so

[red monolith]

it wasn't obvious why no other less extreme options were tried, worse yet why not even a single explanation was given afterwards

you have to keep in mind, many people in guilds honestly assumed the admins to hate guilds

at that point

and couldn't care less about them

[flint shuttle]

its a moderation issue to have random discord links shouted

[red monolith]

it's not shouts, it's forums

[flint shuttle]

or that too

[red monolith]

i think most people were acceptable on shouts sure

[flint shuttle]

like, you can say its one thing

but then you can put something there that it isnt

and you have 12 year olds joining into something NSFW

[red monolith]

so you perma ban that person if they do xD

[flint shuttle]

or something

[red monolith]

that's what bans are for

[flint shuttle]

ok but mods dont check every discord

and they logically cant

[red monolith]

so reports don't exist?

it just seems like any other offence

[flint shuttle]

damage would've already been done

[red monolith]

should we ban trading ingame because some people scam others?

[flint shuttle]

its much safer to not have to deal with that kind of stuff

[red monolith]

mods can't check EVERY trade

even 0.1% of trades being scams is harmfull

just like only 1% of discord links are probably foul

regardless, we're pestering salted enough as it is nowadays to dig up that coffin

I look at it differently

i'm just happy we're not hated

[flint shuttle]

pog epic games is giving away free games >:)

again

[red monolith]

simp for china

ayy

[flint shuttle]

app they're giving away borderlands 3

so i dont have to buy it

[red monolith]

i mean if its free its free

[flint shuttle]

agreed

[red monolith]

can't knock a man for that

[clever lotus]

YES MOSHI

[flint shuttle]

YAY CATA

GG

[red monolith]

i'll leave you 2 love doves be

[flint shuttle]

wow

she's not exactly nynnf

[red monolith]

need to get up tommorow to write my phat thesis on guild HQ protectionism

[flint shuttle]

lmfao

I've got a pull an all nighter

and then stay up tomorrow

tldr im fucked

[clever lotus]

I passed the trial :))

[flint shuttle]

Yayyy

[red monolith]

my tinder match is gonna call me awake tommrow at 10

i can't linger

[flint shuttle]

the fact you're on tinder

amazes me

[red monolith]

well not anymore 🙂

[flint shuttle]

xD

just edate

jk

[red monolith]

meh

never been for it

i love my le more than i love paying for e-girlfriends

[mellow notch]

[red monolith]

maybe if i wan to flex at some ingame event gathering

i'll bust out the full santa

[flint shuttle]

lol

gimme some LE

;)

[red monolith]

pimpin

join avo and earn it

😉

i'm mostly the reserve guild bank at this point

[flint shuttle]

on my alt?

sure

[red monolith]

gonna have to put in legwork for it though

[flint shuttle]

im kidding

my alt is in GMY

[red monolith]

nothings for free here , except the warmth of friendship

[flint shuttle]

actually would i get into avo guild discords if i had my alt in there

[red monolith]

we'll show you how its done

[flint shuttle]

nah im in shy

its kinda pog

[red monolith]

shy's doing good, can't blame you

riding that wave right now

we had in early 2020

[shut perch]

twnty twenty

[flint shuttle]

twnty twnty 1

[shut perch]

I dislike how you copied my mistake

im crying

my tears are becoming an ocean

and im drowning

[flint shuttle]

also callum answer my question

[red monolith]

is it a territory?

[shut perch]

idk you added me so I thought Id greet you

with a

whatever that is

[flint shuttle]

satanist memento

?

[red monolith]

how does

BBC relate to hax

and more importantly

[flint shuttle]

i mean

[shut perch]

I was mobile

[flint shuttle]

..............?

[red monolith]

what does BBC stand for

[shut perch]

British Broadcasting Company

[flint shuttle]

i think we know what it stands for

[shut perch]

I swear

[flint shuttle]

cal

[red monolith]

ah

[flint shuttle]

shut

[red monolith]

that makes sense

i knew hax had them by the balls

[shut perch]

my phone autocorrected it for that reason and no other

[flint shuttle]

sure

[red monolith]

it draws words from your search history

[flint shuttle]

cal stop being horny on the internet

[shut perch]

I am never horny >:C

[red monolith]

me neither

[shut perch]

I'm doing biology work at 3am anti-horny

[red monolith]

(relieved during the 1st chapter)

oh yeah cel osmosis

you get in there

[shut perch]

e I'm covering transcriptional factors atm

[red monolith]

protein molecule

[shut perch]

ah yes

[red monolith]

through a semi-permeable wall

[shut perch]

protein molevule

[red monolith]

ooooh

[shut perch]

down a conc. gradient

[red monolith]

the water molecules are trying to ram into the cell

so hot

but the hyrophobic wand isn't having any of it

deenied

[shut perch]

into an area of lower water potential

[red monolith]

idk it's been 7 years or so since i had cel biology

[shut perch]

wAter potential

[red monolith]

but learning it through sexual innuendos

is certainly more interesting

[shut perch]

Ive been doing

biology

for uh

this is my 6th year

of doing biology stuff

[red monolith]

what was the 1st

[shut perch]

and plan to do

a 4 year degree

in environmental science

Biology

[red monolith]

cuz by my curriculum, you'd be halfway through college at your 6th

[shut perch]

Geography

uh I think that lines up

Y13,

12th grade

uh

they are the only 2 line ups I have

age 17-18

that year group

[red monolith]

don't even try to assume our school system is anything alike

every country does it completely different

fuck the UK appearantly college starts at 16?

or some shit?

[shut perch]

yep

[red monolith]

yea

[shut perch]

hello britian man

[red monolith]

fucking nobheads

[shut perch]

I love britain

I lied

I want to leave

[half musk]

hi Cal

[shut perch]

get me out

hi oolong

[red monolith]

ah so you voted leave

[shut perch]

will you accept me

[half musk]

yeah come to canada

[shut perch]

no I 1. couldnt 2. wouldnt

[red monolith]

don't come to belgium

[half musk]

❄️

[red monolith]

houses are expensive as it is

go make the houses more expensive somewhere else

[shut perch]

I was gonna politics

[red monolith]

yea me to

[shut perch]

but I chose not to yes, eu good, brexit bad

[red monolith]

eu okay (insert 50 line paragraph as to why)

but not great

[shut perch]

okay well eu better than no eu is how I should have phrased

[red monolith]

yea

fair

[flint shuttle]

the uk be like

[shut perch]

uk-ish

[flint shuttle]

shrug

[red monolith]

have they left yet btw?

[shut perch]

uh

[flint shuttle]

no

[red monolith]

weren't they gonna leave this january?

[flint shuttle]

less than a month though

yeah but we extended

[shut perch]

we are in a "transition phase"

[red monolith]

lmao

you'll just end up like switzerland

[shut perch]

we were meant to leave uh

[flint shuttle]

we're dropping out entirely at the end of december

[red monolith]

i promise

[hollow willow]

at this rate Québec will be independent before UK leaves EU

[shut perch]

4 years ago

[red monolith]

this transition is never gonna end

unless something drastic happens

[flint shuttle]

nah tbh i think we'll drop out

[shut perch]

My only hope is that scotland leaves the UK and joins the EU

[flint shuttle]

our politicians are gonna be greedy

yeah if scotland does that im going up north

[red monolith]

UK's a weird beast

[shut perch]

Current rate of Scottish people for independance is 58%

[hollow willow]

the 3rd referendum will be the good one I swear

[red monolith]

has some pieces of US's culture

and some pieces of europes

[flint shuttle]

I'm a southerner through and through

but i'd rather be in the EU

[hollow willow]

2020 Québec independance I still believe it

[red monolith]

like the UK isn't quite as awfull to it's ever increasing lower class

as the US

but not very nice either

[shut perch]

I've lived in North England my entire life but given I was born in scotland I qualify

[flint shuttle]

I'm lower class, like, bottom of the ladder lower class

and like

its fucked for us

[red monolith]

you live in a red-ish house?

just like all the other red-ish houses

in your neighborhood

[flint shuttle]

no we live on benefits lmfao

[shut perch]

none of the houses near me are red

[flint shuttle]

because my mom cant work and my dad isnt with us

[red monolith]

so you don't live in the UK

[shut perch]

that I can think of

oh

[flint shuttle]

i live in a grey house, though

[red monolith]

impossible

[flint shuttle]

because its a really old house

[shut perch]

my house is brown I guess

[red monolith]

you cannot live in the UK unless it's that red-ish color

[shut perch]

how old though?

[hollow willow]

my house is the internet!1!!!1

[flint shuttle]

idfk

[shut perch]

I'd imagine if its grey its brutalist architecture so 60's

[red monolith]

honestly we leave below the poverty line as well

[flint shuttle]

old enough that we had to have our landlord strip it of asbestos

[red monolith]

but it sure as hell doesn't feel like it

[flint shuttle]

when we moved in

[red monolith]

idfk how my mom pulls it off

[flint shuttle]

yeah same

[shut perch]

HELP

HOW TURN OFF CHROME AUTO DICTATE

[red monolith]

maybe i just don't know what middle class really feels like

[shut perch]

tHE ENTIre PAGE

iS It even chrome!??!

[flint shuttle]

tbh i envy my mom's skills at properly financing everything

[red monolith]

yea well

[flint shuttle]

its fucking amazing

[red monolith]

mine doesn't?

and she still manages

[hollow willow]

yo theres lead in the water pipe at my school

[red monolith]

i'm the most fiscally responsible one

[shut perch]

a found it

[red monolith]

here

[shut perch]

[flint shuttle]

she doesn't properly finance shit but like, she's managed to keep me and my sister afloat for years

[shut perch]

I tried gatorade for the first time today

[red monolith]

try beer

[flint shuttle]

ik she's behind on the bills constantly

but we dont do anything to be evicted

[shut perch]

the drinking age here is much lower urby

[red monolith]

who cares, try beer.

[shut perch]

I have

[flint shuttle]

beer tastes like piss

[red monolith]

beer is best when its not legal

[flint shuttle]

dont

[hollow willow]

imagine drinking alchohol

[red monolith]

maybe,

[flint shuttle]

imagine not being legally able to drink alcohol

[shut perch]

most people I know have been drinking since 14

[red monolith]

first you go die for your country, then go have a beer, you can't in the US haha Xd

i mean welcome to central europe

[flint shuttle]

we have a drinking age of 5 in the UK

[shut perch]

^

[flint shuttle]

we cant buy or drink in public till 18 though

[shut perch]

bepic

[red monolith]

legal drinking age is 16 here

[hollow willow]

imagine being tourette so you prefer not taking alcohol cause you don't know how you'll react

[red monolith]

keyword: legal

[hollow willow]

jk I fucking hate alcohol

[shut perch]

we can drink at 16 in pubs witha meal tho moshi

[flint shuttle]

lou you have tourettes?

[hollow willow]

I do

[red monolith]

experiment

[flint shuttle]

ah didn't know

[red monolith]

live a little

[flint shuttle]

i mean tbh its best not to

[hollow willow]

yea its more apparent irl x)

[flint shuttle]

i probably shouldn't drink because my dad's an alcoholic

[shut perch]

beer is pretty shite imo or atleast anything more than shitty larger

[red monolith]

even an untrained liver will cover you on just 1 beer

[flint shuttle]

but who cares

also yeah beer is shit

[red monolith]

(can't appearantly train your liver)

[hollow willow]

Demoman has entered the chat

[red monolith]

but i dunno how the fuck tolerance is built for it otherwise

[shut perch]

drink strongbow, tastes of owt but it has alchol init

[hollow willow]

eating alcohol

[red monolith]

tiramisu?

just get some poison resistance lmfao

[hollow willow]

smh

[red monolith]

apple cider is good shit

best way to learn to appreciate it

[shut perch]

I only learnt a couple months ago that apple cider is almost always non alcholic in the US

[red monolith]

bruh what some backwards hellhole is that place

and you guys want to leave the EU?

crickey

[visual haven]

apple cider is alcoholic in the eu?

[red monolith]

no you don't enter this chat

[visual haven]

jesus christ

[shut perch]

yes

[red monolith]

everything is remember

[shut perch]

usually like 4-6%

[red monolith]

even our fountains

[visual haven]

oh 4-6% is pretty low

[shut perch]

yee

[red monolith]

if you down it like fanta you'll feel it soon enough though

[shut perch]

^yeah

[visual haven]

do you guys have like a legal drinking age

[shut perch]

5

[red monolith]

but honestly you'd have to really force yourself to get pissdrunk off just beer

[shut perch]

and then 18 in public

[red monolith]

16 legal

[shut perch]

but from 5 you can consume alchol in private

[visual haven]

...5?

[red monolith]

fetals irresponsibly legal

[shut perch]

I always miss the o in alcohol

[red monolith]

alachehol

[shut perch]

5 seems a little low

even for private

[red monolith]

i mean if it refers to the

"come on lad, 'ave a sip"

then its most definitly

5

[shut perch]

aAa

[red monolith]

and you know it

i was taking sips at that age lmao

[shut perch]

or the froth ontop of beer

fRoth

intresting word

[red monolith]

moist

froth is an underrated word

like gushing

[shut perch]

gushing is uh

horny word

[red monolith]

people need to use gushing more

anyways ima go

it's almost 4:20

gn

[shut perch]

e gn

[visual haven]

gn

[half musk]

uh

[warm knoll]

smokin that za za

[limber river]

hi giuild politic

[plucky cedar]

Ayyyy gg

٩(๑˃́ꇴ˂̀๑)۶ᴳᴳ

[clever lotus]

Thank you very much

[ornate forge]

Geegees

[half musk]

meow meow

@sage granite i havent pinged you in so long ❤️

[sage granite]

yea thats a block

[half musk]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

not again

[ornate forge]

Yikes

[dapper robin]

@sage granite ping!

[potent ibex]

this channel is like

why

[short steeple]

chrysitis

@west viper

[west viper]

what

[short steeple]

chrysitis

[west viper]

chrysitis

[mellow notch]

@west viper

[flint shuttle]

why ask why when you can ask why not

[potent ibex]

why

[flint shuttle]

why not

[clever lotus]

whyn't

[flint shuttle]

whysn't

[modern forge]

politics

[flint shuttle]

get political with me yugi

would you rather watch trump perform a puppet show or biden

[modern forge]

is there a third option where i can pick to not watch any of them

[flint shuttle]

no

[cloud pier]

get political with me yugi

😏

[flint shuttle]

ivo get a room

[modern forge]

a sad state of affairs

[modern forge]

where do we meet to politicize ivo.. if you know what i mean 😳

[cloud pier]

🛏️

[flint shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/are-you-two-together-are-you-dating-are-you-a-couple-is-it-official-after-life-gif-17047743

[cloud pier]

obviously

[green zephyr]

thank you for the cringe

now I have a reason to block this chat

[cloud pier]

@modern forge be the pieck to my galliard 😩

rune of sage slappage disapproves of our love

[modern forge]

oh my fucking god rune of safe slappage how could you

[stable quest]

lmao

https://tenor.com/view/baguette-cat-minecraft-meme-funny-gif-18560351

[thorny plank]

anyone recruiting?

[toxic berry]

I mean that was my fault cause I didn't finish the job

though I did remark on how it shouldn't be in the territory before leaving

[toxic berry]

Ye, check out https://forums.wynncraft.com/forums/guilds.72/

[shut perch]

Where’s that one thread

With that one doc

[toxic berry]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1gK4LePdPOHac_jZw3_L8739Auw0XNml44UZpSaiFTyg/edit#gid=0

[shut perch]

Yes

That one

[torn steppe]

Who is the one I can message to change the information about my guild that is in that doc?

[toxic berry]

Sg_Voltage on the forums

https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/278112/

[red monolith]

one day we'll proudly proclaim to be invite-only

the biggest flex any guild can do

[toxic berry]

Imp's been going without active recruitment for months 🙏

[shut perch]

Impimpimp

[toxic berry]

<3

[wooden tartan]

Impimpimp

[red monolith]

fuck i was gonna figure something out for HQ's today

the fuck am i gonna do

i literaly don't even know what an HQ is

fuckfuckfuck

[shut perch]

Just a rad aaa terr

Ass*

Autocorrect censor me

Sad

[red monolith]

i am quite serious on it though. if it's possible to consistently kill a maxed HQ tower, what will happen to the rest of your claims

[drifting hemlock]

Guys join shy

[red monolith]

i need more info

[quasi jolt]

anybody tested to guild transfer function yet?

[toxic berry]

@BCr

@TNL

[quasi jolt]

[warm pine]

[red monolith]

so do guild owners have 5 stars next to their name in hb?

[toxic berry]

yea

[warm pine]

Exactly

[red monolith]

good to know

i'm gonna post a fucking banger on the thread

and i'll defend the idea with my life

[warm pine]

would've been nice if it was the 2 big stars

[red monolith]

what other minor gripes do people have with the 1.20 guild features

like pet peeves

nothing big

i need ideas

[quasi jolt]

do pets work in wars?

[red monolith]

yes

they drain mana right?

[plucky cedar]

we did

[shut perch]

They currently I believe by bug apply onhit affects so perhaps that was a pet with a -MS build

[red monolith]

yea it ruined me in a war

[plucky cedar]

pets drain mana?

[red monolith]

anyway

https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/state-of-guilds.279156/page-2#post-3343217

fight me over this

[plucky cedar]

I didnt know they did

so thats why my mana feels weird when I have Skunaviou out

[royal tide]

do you need to purchase pets or can you find them in loot boxes

[plucky cedar]

I believe you can find most of the pets in crates

[shut perch]

Honestly nice idea urby

[plucky cedar]

except the paid ones

[royal tide]

oh ok cool

[plucky cedar]

@red monolith pretty good post but I think this is a bit op

[red monolith]

whats op

assuming you read the next bullet point

[plucky cedar]

mhm

I read everything

[red monolith]

elaborate on it

you find a 1:10 conversion ratio to little?

i just winged most of the numbers

[plucky cedar]

generally the idea of going to vault

[red monolith]

well the vault is the same as the current guild bank, you can only deposit emeralds to it

not withdraw to reuse in your claims

[plucky cedar]

because the vault will just go over the storage limit once again

[red monolith]

the vault is infinite

[plucky cedar]

unless you mean that the vault is different than storage

[ripe niche]

how do u access guild bank rn

on live

[red monolith]

it's like having the old guild bank

next to the 1.20 system

i'll see to clarify that

[plucky cedar]

so vault is ONLY for the purchasable stuff?

[toxic berry]

honestly quite like the idea @red monolith

would be a fun way to compare "total wealth" built over time too

[plucky cedar]

sorry im in a math class at the same time so sorry if im not a fast gun

[red monolith]

yea

only used in shop

[plucky cedar]

then oke

[red monolith]

while i wasn't too worried about running out of upgrades since i went completely mad daring admins to set the highest prices to insane amounts

at the very end i just realized you can sell xp

[plucky cedar]

its actually a really awesome idea

[red monolith]

and thats the end of that

it actually solves 3 major issues

since it doubles as passive guild xp

but gives you options

and i

fucking love options

[toxic berry]

I wouldn't say it replaces passive xp

[red monolith]

it's sorta a spinoff

but generally more terrs would in theory give you more spare emeralds

[plucky cedar]

im guessing passive xp will be calculated based on the amount of terrs

[red monolith]

meaning there is a correlation to terrs you control to gaining some xp out of it

that's something i could write a few pages on

but won't do that yet

[jade tendon]

Does ce have hero

[red monolith]

maybe a hard-cap of how many emeralds you can deposit hourly is a good idea

since IF mega alliance re-emerge, guilds could dump 500k emeralds hourly in it and break the system

since they have no real need for defenses

[plucky cedar]

you can go a step further

and add xp co-efficient for each terr

lol

or even pay to give back the old xp system

(which was shit)

[ornate forge]

Indeed

[plucky cedar]

urby chon

[red monolith]

while i have pondered the idea to keep terr xp gains, but at 1x or 0.5x instead of 3x

ultimatly i'd think w'd be better off if territories were more equal by design

meaning ragni is actually worth a fart

or what do you mean by co-efficient

[jade tendon]

Lol

[red monolith]

also i linked my discord to my forum but idk why it doesn't show up

or do i have to do something else

idc really

[jade tendon]

Lol

Fair

[red monolith]

i'm here to be a radical

and push boundaries

[jade tendon]

I wish there was a faster way to recruit instead of the forums

[plucky cedar]

by co-efficient I mean basically lets say

there is base xp for every terr

and each terr gives that xp based on its co-efficient%

for example SE give 150% xp

or that idea basically. could be 1.5, 150%, 2boots and 1 mythic

[red monolith]

i'd like that idea, if it weren't for the inequality of terrs

and ffa's are no longer reasonable given you'd have to haul resources to them to activate the co-efficient

[plucky cedar]

yeah and the number of the terrs...

mhm

[red monolith]

i'd like to throw ideas around that type of system

but i'm going to keep my current post specific to this shop

lmao, at first i was just going to copy past my old idea of buyable storage space to dwicey

[plucky cedar]

you made me feel like a boomer ngl. we are the generation creating the system which will be used for people warring after us

lol

[red monolith]

but then i was like "oh wait ,let's make it a vault... aaand lats keep /gu contribute... aand oh oh lets put a conversion rate on it since /gu contribute would be pathetic otherwise... OH HEY let's make it an entire shop.. now what can we put in that shop....

[plucky cedar]

lol

[red monolith]

and it became what it is

[plucky cedar]

I feel you dw

and now you have even more that you cant say because it will be overwhelming

and then when the time comes you will forget them and AAAAAAAAAAA

[red monolith]

i'll await initial feedback and turn it into it's full thread later maybe

and hide the more specific stuff so admins can't nitpick in a 2nd post on the thread

[ripe niche]

hackforums visualised

[jade tendon]

I think hackforums is COOL

[fringe roost]

there should be a hack forums ngl

[ripe niche]

cool maybe

but sleepy

[fringe roost]

the law requires i do not answer.

[ornate forge]

gyp on top

[final token]

🤔

[ripe niche]

GYP always on top

[fringe roost]

pog

[sage granite]

pogging

[hollow willow]

poggenining even

[plucky cedar]

@ripe niche do you know what a cooldown is?

[hollow willow]

why did the shadowfall, kakos?

[plucky cedar]

You know that they need to wait 3 mins before attacking your terr

Because @carmine coral doesnt watch where he is going

[ripe niche]

do cooldowns last 30mins?

[plucky cedar]

3mins

Well it took them a bit longer

[drifting hemlock]

Join shy

[ripe niche]

shy kinda cracked

not as much as eden

which in turn is not as much as gyp

but somewhat cracked

[cloud pier]

honored to be second best 😌

[limber river]

GYP ON TOP

[cloud pier]

factual

[ripe niche]

i never said second best

third best

after DXI

DXI my day-ones

[ornate forge]

good enough 4 me c:

[cloud pier]

demoted.

was fun being second place