guild_community

[plucky cedar]

I havent died in a war in 17 years

[ember cloak]

thank you Yuno, very cool

[lost tangle]

i havent died in a war for a whole 4 mins

[toxic berry]

secret santa gifts 💜

[final token]

🤔

[plucky cedar]

I gave my gift too yesterday

[gray oriole]

MDM

[deep chasm]

shit

couldn't resist

[queen radish]

Join Phi!

[wooden tartan]

fuck no

[limber river]

stop posting that nimbuh

[wooden tartan]

nimbruh

[weak bridge]

Debout, les damnés de la terre Debout, les forçats de la faim La raison tonne en son cratère C'est l'éruption de la fin Du passé faisons table rase Foule esclave, debout, debout Le monde va changer de base Nous ne sommes rien, soyons tout Chorus C'est la lutte finale Groupons-nous, et demain L'Internationale Sera le genre humain. Il n'est pas de sauveurs suprêmes Ni Dieu, ni César, ni tribun Producteurs, sauvons-nous nous-mêmes Décrétons le salut commun Pour que le voleur rende gorge Pour tirer l'esprit du cachot Soufflons nous-mêmes notre forge Battons le fer quand il est chaud. Chorus L'État comprime et la loi triche L'impôt saigne le malheureux Nul devoir ne s'impose au riche Le droit du pauvre est un mot creux C'est assez, languir en tutelle L'égalité veut d'autres lois Pas de droits sans devoirs dit-elle Égaux, pas de devoirs sans droits. Chorus Hideux dans leur apothéose Les rois de la mine et du rail Ont-ils jamais fait autre chose Que dévaliser le travail ? Dans les coffres-forts de la bande Ce qu'il a créé s'est fondu En décrétant qu'on le lui rende Le peuple ne veut que son dû. Chorus Les rois nous saoulaient de fumées Paix entre nous, guerre aux tyrans Appliquons la grève aux armées Crosse en l'air, et rompons les rangs S'ils s'obstinent, ces cannibales À faire de nous des héros Ils sauront bientôt que nos balles Sont pour nos propres généraux. Chorus Ouvriers, paysans, nous sommes Le grand parti des travailleurs La terre n'appartient qu'aux hommes L'oisif ira loger ailleurs Combien de nos chairs se repaissent Mais si les corbeaux, les vautours Un de ces matins disparaissent Le soleil brillera toujours.

[wide shadow]

exactly

[shut perch]

oui

[wide shadow]

🔧 🎮

[rain tangle]

C’est censé être un poème?

[hollow willow]

M'en va t'à la fontaine Pour y pêcher du poisson La Ziguezon zin zon M'en va t'à la fontaine Pour y pêcher du poissonLa Ziguezon zin zon La fontaine est profonde J'me suis coulé à fond La Ziguezon zin zon Fille en haut, fille en bas Fille, fille, fille, femme Femme, femme, femme aussi Pis la bottine-tine-tine Rigolait ha ha Son p'tit porte-clé tout rouillé, tout rouillé Son p'tit porte-clé tout rouillé gaiement Son p'tit porte-clé tout rouillé, tout rouillé Son p'tit porte-clé tout rouillé gaiement La fontaine est profonde Je m'suis coulé à fond La Ziguezon zin zon La fontaine est profonde Je m'suis coulé à fond La Ziguezon zin zon Par icitte il lui passe Trois cavaliers barons La Ziguezon zin zon Fille en haut, fille en bas Fille, fille, fille, femme Femme, femme, femme aussi Pis la bottine-tine-tine Rigolait ha ha Son p'tit porte-clé tout rouillé, tout rouillé Son p'tit porte-clé tout rouillé gaiement Son p'tit porte-clé tout rouillé, tout rouillé Son p'tit porte-clé tout rouillé gaiement Par icitte il lui passe Trois cavaliers barons La Ziguezon zin zon Par icitte il lui passe Trois cavaliers barons La Ziguezon zin zon Que m'donneriez-vous belle Si j'vous tirais du fond La Ziguezon zin zonFille en haut, fille en bas Fille, fille, fille, femme Femme, femme, femme aussi Pis la bottine-tine-tine Rigolait ha ha Son p'tit porte-clé tout rouillé, tout rouillé Son p'tit porte-clé tout rouillé gaiement Son p'tit porte-clé tout rouillé, tout rouillé Son p'tit porte-clé tout rouillé gaiement

j'ai coupé en plein milieux de la chanson mais bon

[plucky cedar]

🥖

Funny

[warm knoll]

👉 👈

[limber river]

🫂

[warm knoll]

thx sheepyweepy 🫂 😳 😊

[plucky cedar]

CORONA

STAY 2 METERS APART

[warm knoll]

NO

I WANT HUG

[lost hamlet]

no

bud

[warm knoll]

hey

join eden 😳

👇

☝️

😳

[cloud pier]

kdafka

[regal stream]

No guild stinky

[cloud pier]

facts all guilds smell good

[warm knoll]

Yeah

[warm knoll]

hey
no 😳

bruh

[regal stream]

Eden smells

Like

[nocturne valve]

No astha >:c

[cloud pier]

jion fox

[queen radish]

Any Foxers?

[regal stream]

Any furries?

[cloud pier]

foxer here

[warm knoll]

@nocturne valve what happened to ur name

[nocturne valve]

e why ping for that

[warm knoll]

i always ping people

thats why i have no friends

[nocturne valve]

Oh that’s unfortunate

Nah i was messing around changing my name to nicknames ive gotten in servers

Then just changed name to my alts name :)

@warm knoll

[warm knoll]

oh ok

understandable

have a nice day

[empty smelt]

😮

[queen radish]

Hiii wep

I gotchu

[warm knoll]

Beta time

[split copper]

👀

[limber river]

come war

now

[toxic berry]

going well

[queen radish]

5 stars

[half musk]

how do u join a war

im so confused

[split copper]

okay

[limber river]

wars dont work

[split copper]

xd

[limber river]

aj come dxi vc

[split copper]

okay

[potent ibex]

The way territories are absolutely useless now, they only produce what it takes to upkeep them

and the new guild cap is not even feasible

[limber river]

me when only artemis has gotten into war

[potent ibex]

36 players?!? thats like a level 10 guild

[limber river]

salted said member cap is wrong calm down lol

[potent ibex]

Are u sure? Another staff said it was here to stay

maybe its just to scare us 😭

[red monolith]

lvl 77 guild

this is gonna be fun

[toxic berry]

my favourite guild territory

@crisp oracle

[crisp oracle]

Yes

[toxic berry]

I'd report the bugs I find but turns out I can't quite

[civic bane]

hey all please remember

dm me guild level XP requirements and level up bonuses for each level that you guys get access to if you can 🥺

will be updating the thread the best i can

[potent ibex]

the way my territories SUCK now

Ahmsord and SI looks really decent. Most territories only have, if two resources present

SI has like 3 min

Are they going to change this?

Add more resource diversity in other areas?

[potent ibex]

STAFF FYI

With the huge wait-time depending on where you are starting a war and where you are headquartered, wars can be blocked for like 40+ minutes - and there is zero limit on how much a guild can attack

So like, a guild can just go attacking every single territory

or flat out block attacks on a claim

[weak bridge]

It’s called hb for a reason

[scarlet kayak]

i wrote about this exact issue on the hero beta announcement thread

[potent ibex]

yeah I found out right after I posted the above in my vc

I didn't read the hero beta announcement thread. .

So what benefits do territories add? From what I can tell, the only thing that territories produce are things to upkeep territories.

Guild xp is not even in the picture anymore

Owning territories does not benefit towards level

So what other purpose does it have? Or is the feature cosmetic now and rather mainly for fun?

[scarlet kayak]

atm theres a few benefits you can get when doing things in a terr

we'll add more later

[potent ibex]

Ah so like benefits for guild players in territories you own?

[scarlet kayak]

ye

check the bonus page if you have a terr

[potent ibex]

So that means that high level terrs are optimal I assume

[scarlet kayak]

if what you want is in there yea

silent expanse will be popular im sure

[potent ibex]

are the benefits for leveling/professions mostly?

ahh Im not in-game to look at the bonuses rn

I'll just check later

Thanks for the answers!

This is very interesting now that xp is not at all tied to territories, let alone wars

It will be interesting seeing how the update impacts the guild climate in all of its functions

[hollow willow]

Salted you said one time guilds shouldnt give advantages to players, I guess this point of view has changed?

[potent ibex]

I can already see the players that are just gonna hop guilds and go to ones with territories that are within their level range for quick leveling, then hop to the next

[sturdy heron]

Just need Hax to own the map again and we can all join Hax

[potent ibex]

I'm actually not against this shift. I think this actually makes wars a lot less essential, and sheds more focus on community.

Viaire factsss

[sturdy heron]

So how do guilds level up now? o_O

[potent ibex]

/guild xp 😭

[limber river]

mirror cave ig

[potent ibex]

Wait mirror cave is in a territory, right?

rip gj to AVO then

[sturdy heron]

Requires guild xp and deletes bulb o_o

[potent ibex]

AVO could set that as their headquarter and it would be veryyyy well defended

[limber river]

wait till you find out territories dont give xp

[potent ibex]

you don't need to set hq on a city, its actually better for strategical locations. Central is best really because of the wait-times

but like, if you have a territory like mirror cave, I'd place that bad boy on it

Reap those good defenses on it

[limber river]

why though

owning the territory doesnt give xp

[potent ibex]

well. . yeah

[dull sand]

did this channel just open

my mind is small

[limber river]

been for weeks

[potent ibex]

But if AVO folks are grinding in mirror cave, they would get benefits

[dull sand]

yeah I suck at remembering stuff lol

[potent ibex]

since they own the territory

[limber river]

eh sure

[potent ibex]

Sky Islands so far is the best region that I've seen because it contains 3 resources min

[limber river]

i think it depends on how many resources you need

like is 2 ore territories enough

[potent ibex]

Technically 4 if you include Kandon and Kandon Farm, which TECHNICALLY are on that side of the natural border.

Most guilds will only have the luxury of 1 or 2 resources

Sky Islands has all 4

[limber river]

t r a d e

[potent ibex]

Ore, wood, a fishing territory worth nearly 3 fishing territories, and a crop terr

So they will be chilling

Also so, it seems like you won't lose your territories if you have like 0 crops

However, you won't be able to upgrade some things

HOWEVER, some upgrades only take one resource

So we were able to upgrade with the resources we had

ngl jungle and nesaak is pretty doo doo but these territories feel cosmetic anyways

[limber river]

hmm

it shows durum as having a route

[warm knoll]

hmm

who would win
me with unlimited resources and administrator perms and the dev server and also holding the entirety of the silent expanse
or 50 guild tryhards trying to fight me all at once

the results shall be interesting

[crisp oracle]

Or 1 Snerp

[queen radish]

Count on more then 50

[red monolith]

Scope of update is bigger than it seemed at first especially for guild. The promise is there and it has so much potential. But should have called it hero alpha for now imo.

[turbid jay]

hello

i have a guild trade offer

5000 weed for some emeralds

my guild mass produce weed

jk

pls it was a joke dont ban me

[potent ibex]

how much emeralds

[potent ibex]

Okay can we get a final clarification?

I am pretty sure it was stated xp is no longer tied to territories

However I’m hearing many people say that territories will still generate xp while others say it won’t

So I’ve become confused due to how controversial the matter is

[toxic berry]

https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/uhh-salted-a-discussion-on-guild-slots.278633/

how does one report anything

I don't have permissions to reply to any HB bug threads lol

[scarlet kayak]

Click the big report bug button

[wooden tartan]

its not a bug its a feature

[toxic berry]

oh right that worked

the thread link was dead for a bit yesterday

[polar magnet]

im kinda new on this, how do guilds work?

[wooden tartan]

mf living in gmt-5:12

[warm knoll]

its cet but ok 🤔

[wooden tartan]

but that message was sent at 09:32 gmt

if its 04:20 in your time zone youre in gmt-5

[wooden tartan]

oh

🤷‍♂️

[dull sand]

E

[vernal steeple]

cloud#7750 msg him and tell him that you are looking gor girlfriend or some shit like that please

[cloud pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/294726067665502208/785859206167265350/unknown.png

first mythic UWU

[shut perch]

Gaia time

[wooden tartan]

bob's mythic wand time

[cloud pier]

if it's gaia or monster im going to kill myself

[shut perch]

Monster is gaming though

[solid valve]

how do i find a guild to join

its not as fun alone 😔

[hidden valve]

You can apply for any guild you see here: https://forums.wynncraft.com/forums/guilds.72/

some have requirements, some don't. Just gotta find the guild that suits your interests best

[solid valve]

thanks a ton

[hidden valve]

Okay so what are resources used for in the new 1.20 update, I'm guessing they are used to strengthen your tower defenses?

[ornate forge]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DrjKlphzG0Rz6c_RFL_SgZCCEDnFZOf3dZTekAeSGtg/edit#gid=2135220956

[hidden valve]

ah badass thx

[earnest crypt]

are the costs per hour?

[vocal granite]

Id hope not

[hidden valve]

defending terrs gonna be e x p e n s i v e now lmao

[ornate forge]

yeah its per hour

[earnest crypt]

so for like larger resource storage it would cost 3.6m emeralds an hour

how is that reasonable?

[ornate forge]

🤷

[regal stream]

This is how guilds go ✨bankrupt✨

[plucky cedar]

We already went bankrupt as soon as the update started

[crisp oracle]

Territory's generate emeralds passively

[plucky cedar]

We went from 9m to 1m

[regal stream]

Yikes

[ornate forge]

how kakos

[plucky cedar]

I think they took some terrs

And it takes money to hold terrs

Thats what Asuns said at least

[ornate forge]

ah ok

[sullen mango]

is this man really using discord light mode

what a sin

[toxic berry]

https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/not-my-gate.278688/

#NotOurGate

[wooden tartan]

#NotOurGate

[plucky cedar]

#NotOurGate

[queen radish]

[half musk]

lmao

[toxic berry]

https://twitter.com/ascendedkitten/status/1336421165498294280

CathKitten (@ascendedkitten)

@Wynncraft care to comment?? #NotMyGate https://t.co/NgeZppstpp

▶ Play video

Twitter · Dec 8, 2020, 9:23 PM

[queen radish]

Stale meme

[wooden tartan]

Great meme

10/10

Should get an award

[toxic berry]

why Salted won't feature my contributions to this community on the webpage is beyond me

[cloud pier]

gone

reduced to atoms

[final token]

@toxic berry ha u bad

[toxic berry]

gg

[warm knoll]

@toxic berry

[toxic berry]

???

[warm knoll]

any brazilian guilds recruit?? (alguma guilda brasileira recrutando?)

[cloud pier]

@lost tangle YOO

[final token]

Shut it ivo

[lost tangle]

Yoooo

[cloud pier]

wtf sam

[lost tangle]

Fala, tem uma guilda só brasileira, GsW, mas n sei se eles ainda estão ativos

[cloud pier]

reported and BANNED

[cloud pier]

ativos??

at ivo’s 😀😀

brazil got a funny language

[lost tangle]

tem um servidor no discord só pra br, se vc quiser eu mando o invite na dm

[potent ibex]

Tbh I thought territories would be giving set amounts of xp now

Which arguably should have been done when guilds were released

Because now everything is inconsistent

And territories not being associated at all to xp gain of levels is very weird IMO definitely something that feels alien

There doesn’t seem to be any benefits for the guild from warring, rather a boost for its players in gameplay

But no leveling or features for the guild itself

[cloud pier]

guild give player boost,, player give guild boost

[potent ibex]

And if you own something like Ragni, an xp boost doesn’t even really matter

[cloud pier]

🚲

[potent ibex]

If territories don’t even produce xp we will all return to being slaves of /guild xp

[cloud pier]

one of the cts came up with some good xp producing alternatives

they shared their forum post here but i cant manage to find it

but yeah i agree with u if /gu xp will be the only method of xp producing guilds in 1.20 will be cheeks

[potent ibex]

For a long time guilds have had the luxury of participating in the warring feature, not requiring or even asking players to produce guild xp because of that. If that option is removed and /guild xp becomes the only option, I can already see xp contributions being enforced in many guilds

Which takes away

There will also be a shift in the recruitment of players

Guilds will only recruit high level players

It shifts the dynamic and focus of guilds

I think there are a lot of unintentional consequences at hand

I mean, for years level has always been attributed to participation in the war feature. To change that now completely shifts the dynamic and is quite odd this late in the game.

[limber river]

guild xp bad

[hollow willow]

didnt glowbulb do exactly that?

forcing people to /gu xp 100 to get good xp

[limber river]

find the thread i wanna read

[cloud pier]

CANNOT

trying

[limber river]

to see what ideas they have other than me

[cloud pier]

im sure it was posted in this channel

by a ct member

[ornate forge]

wasnt in this channel

[limber river]

not here

[potent ibex]

I just checked forums and saw nothing

And no

Glowbulbed used warring

People would grind in the territory as they own it and get x3 do towards the guild

[limber river]

i think consistent xp values for all terrs is the best

[potent ibex]

The best part is that u wouldn’t need to do /guild xp 100

I completely agree with consistent xp values

That is how it should have been to begin with

Because everything has been inconsistent bc they made it dependable on the content at the time and player activity

But the xp shouldn’t be entirely based on the level of a place

That would be silly

[bitter bobcat]

ice be spitting facts

[potent ibex]

Because we know that level in the current way that wars and do function aren’t actually@really based on the level of an area, but it’s content

But it just seems too late to remove do entirely from territories, and in a way, arguably defeats the purpose of warring and putting in the effort of owning territories

As cool as gameplay advantages sound for territories you own, that is largely useless imo

[limber river]

ice make a hero beta suggestion thread on that

i like that one a lot

and it presents an endgame for guilds

although the one issue is how will new guilds level

[civic bane]

sheep how are you enjoying new herb cave

[potent ibex]

And you could be the strongest guild on the map but it doesn’t mean anything, you could be passed up by a small community guild that just utilizes /guild xp

[limber river]

maybe gu xp can only come from raids, that’s how new guilds level

[bitter bobcat]

hell no

what the fuck

[limber river]

that’s the balancing issue ngl

[potent ibex]

Level has always been tied to prestige and participation and longevity in the war feature. It doesn’t make sense to completely change the dynamic now. If anything, territories should have set xp values as they should have a long time ago, just like how emerald gain and resource gain is set now

[warm knoll]

@lost tangle obrigada

[limber river]

without gu xp contributions new guilds won’t be able to level

[potent ibex]

That feature should not go anywhere fox

Ofc*

[bitter bobcat]

hat

[potent ibex]

I’m just saying that xp shouldn’t be completely removed from territories either

[bitter bobcat]

what

[potent ibex]

/guild xp should stick around and so should xp gain from territories

[limber river]

sure

thought you were saying remove gu xp, misread

[lost tangle]

I would prefer of just terr xp was rebalanced

To prevent op and useless terrs

[limber river]

thats why everything should be the same???

[lost tangle]

Idk if the same

[potent ibex]

Hence set values which also means leveling and do values will be consistent

Rather then dependent on players activity and content

[lost tangle]

But ye, set values is better

[potent ibex]

Which should have been done a long time ago bc leveling has always been inconsistent as a result

[limber river]

solves the problem of making some areas better than others, and the problem of many people thinking territories are now useless

[potent ibex]

Emeralds and resources are set values now, why not xp?

But again, xp should NOT be level based as it isn’t frankly even area level based today

Possibly go off proportions that we have now idk

[limber river]

what number would you suggest for that universal gain though

[lost tangle]

I would prefer if they scaled a bit with the terr lvl

So to make some areas more interesting than others

So like lutho producing for example double ragni xp

[limber river]

that just makes the same problem today

[lost tangle]

I think having a little difference makes more strategy surge

[lost tangle]

Nah, lutho produces like 1mi times than ragni

[limber river]

doesnt lutho make 0

[lost tangle]

Nope

[limber river]

i thought the quest didnt end

[lost tangle]

Bc of secret discovery

Both quests end lutho

[shut perch]

Plop

[lost tangle]

But they dont give guild xp

[limber river]

sure but having scaling xp still means gavel is better than wynn, se is better than everything else

same as it is today

[lost tangle]

But today one terr is worth more than 100 terrs

With a little scaling one terr would be at max like worth 2

[limber river]

its a smaller ratio but enough people will still gravitate there

[lost tangle]

And more ppl would be interested on it

Ye

Its good bc it provides more strategys

[potent ibex]

Today roughly 11 billion xp was generated and it is typically around that amount. Basically, 24 hours of every territory should produce around that, less IMO

[lost tangle]

Deciding between a place with higher risk higher reward

[limber river]

ice with xp nerfs though

[potent ibex]

There should obviously still be superior places

[limber river]

should be much less

[lost tangle]

Ye, xp needs to be nerfed

[potent ibex]

It should be needed

Nerfed

It’s broken rn

[limber river]

xp reqs are being nerfed by like 90%, the daily xp atleast be scaled there

[lost tangle]

Also, probs like half of produced xp is from bulb/mirror grind no?

[potent ibex]

Umm why are they changing xp reqs I never understood

[lost tangle]

At least some of those billions are from bulb

[potent ibex]

Nah

If there was, it would be much higher

10 bil is average

[ornate forge]

they are removing xp from terrs and removing bulb so its gonna be a lot harder to get xp which is why they are lowered

[limber river]

ice to make leveling easier, for lower level guilds to have access to ally slots and such

especially removing terr xp, leveling is much more difficult so requirements are changed accordingly

yeah

[ornate forge]

cant expect guilds to get their daily billions of xp without terrs xd

[limber river]

i would be fine if the xp system stayed like it is in beta, much more worried about war balancing than xp balancing

[ornate forge]

same

[potent ibex]

They should make those features less level dependent then?

Tbh, most upgrades ended at level 55 anyways except for the standard 1 slot per level

Currently

[nocturne valve]

hm

[lost tangle]

On 1.20?

[potent ibex]

Higher levels are just for prestige and some extra slots

No, currently speaking

1.20 they changed the ENTIRE level and leveling dynamic

It’s like super radical

Territories won’t even generate xp

And xp reqs were nerfed changing the whole level dynamic

[limber river]

1 bil a day for all territories ?

[potent ibex]

WOAH okay

[lost tangle]

Too much i think

[potent ibex]

Apparently they are nerfing level requirements but they are not adjusting guilds, we will merely just keep our levels wtf

[ornate forge]

bruh

[cloud pier]

where else could it be 😐

[lost tangle]

Didnt you say lvl req would be lowered to like 90% of the current one?

[potent ibex]

That’s dumb af

[ornate forge]

not here bitch

[cloud pier]

also i only have this channel unmuted so if i remember it its in here

[potent ibex]

They are basically going to invalidate years of effort

[lost tangle]

I mean

[cloud pier]

lev shut.!

[ornate forge]

ok

[lost tangle]

Wasnt bulb invalidating years of effort

They are lowering xp reqs but also making xp way harder to get

[potent ibex]

They are nerfing the reqs ALOT and not adjusting our levels

They are basically wiping away our work

[ornate forge]

:(

[limber river]

work = boring wars

[ornate forge]

lul

[lost tangle]

Not rly bc its the same for everybody

[potent ibex]

This is dumb

[limber river]

improvise adapt overcome!

[lost tangle]

If lvls were readjusted hax would probs pass lvl 100

[shut perch]

Herb is the worst terr

[limber river]

woah

[potent ibex]

DONT change the level dynamic simple

[shut perch]

Tell me sheep

[hollow willow]

mfw royal gate

[shut perch]

What do you get from herb

[potent ibex]

Make these perks less level dependent

[lost tangle]

They want to include more guilds on the scene

[shut perch]

That’s right it’s bugged

0

Zero

Nothing

Nada

Herb is gone

[nocturne valve]

getting nothing is very cool

[ornate forge]

no

[limber river]

just make suggestion in hero beta forums

[nocturne valve]

:c why not lev

[limber river]

discord rant dont do nuttin

[ornate forge]

because no

[nocturne valve]

nice reason

[ornate forge]

thx

[shut perch]

I’m not complaining

[nocturne valve]

yw

[shut perch]

A terr which gives nothing seems like a good enough meme to me

[hollow willow]

https://tenor.com/view/pog-explode-shattered-broken-gif-15365808

[cloud pier]

me

[hollow willow]

me when seeing WFA tanking in 1.20

[shut perch]

Me when hetusol

[cloud pier]

me getting my first mythic and seeing its monster

[hollow willow]

me when borrrreal get cut in half

[ornate forge]

L ivo

[limber river]

me when guild Xp CHanGe

[shut perch]

Me

[potent ibex]

Yeah I’m going to rant this when I get back from work

This is some dumb shit

[hollow willow]

im stuff

[cloud pier]

lev i screenshotted AND reported for toxicity 😴☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️☺️

[shut perch]

Ice make forum post

Or something

[limber river]

^

[cloud pier]

get BANNED idiot

[shut perch]

I’ll cry if you just speak here

[limber river]

^

[shut perch]

And expect something

[ornate forge]

leaking ur nudes 😜

[limber river]

^

[lost tangle]

Make forum post of perks for tier banners <3

[potent ibex]

I will later

[nocturne valve]

Ban lev?!?!

[limber river]

wtf lev

[cloud pier]

ayo????

[hollow willow]

how

[ornate forge]

😊

[nocturne valve]

lev???

[cloud pier]

lev ?

[lost tangle]

Lev?

[limber river]

what the

[cloud pier]

yo sheep dxi got free slots still ?

[lost tangle]

Lol

[limber river]

yes

[shut perch]

[limber river]

always

[shut perch]

Dxi < herb

[nocturne valve]

run from lev

[ornate forge]

no

[lost tangle]

Ye, HERB has me in it

[ornate forge]

🤗

[limber river]

🇵🇱

[nocturne valve]

Too late lev i already ran

[ornate forge]

byebye!

[nocturne valve]

i ran from edn where you are

[lost tangle]

Y run from lev?

[limber river]

upvote ice xp thread

oh wait

[cloud pier]

the general to general relationship getting out of hand 😏😏

right LEV98BUG

[ornate forge]

🤮

hell no

[lost tangle]

LLLLLL

[cloud pier]

wtf?????

[lost tangle]

Get the L ivo

[nocturne valve]

lev89bug

[ornate forge]

buwug

[nocturne valve]

wheres lev89bug

[cloud pier]

litrrally crying and considering suicide

[nocturne valve]

Towony

[lost tangle]

Toni

[cloud pier]

ivowo

iwo

[lost tangle]

🥝 w 🥝

[nocturne valve]

ivowo

levbuwug

[nocturne valve]

k🥝w🥝

[limber river]

loud = funny?

[cloud pier]

you smell like u farted

[limber river]

ok buddy

hour 2 of waiting for ice xp thread

[shut perch]

he said he was going to work

[hollow willow]

sheep

if you think I died twice to 10 rangers on detlas

its false

[shut perch]

and when he last said he was going for lunch he left for 8 months

[hollow willow]

my warrior and shaman are just too good for the truth

[shut perch]

and with a quick google search the average lunch break is 22 minutes

now, hes gone to work

plugging in a basic 40 hour working week

1 day is 8 hours

8*60=480

480/22=21.8181818

8 Months * 21.81818 / 12 = 14.54

@limber river ETA on Ice's xp thread 14 and a hald years

[limber river]

damn

i guess i can wait, not too bad

[sage granite]

i hate ppfart

@shut perch

cal

callum

[potent ibex]

Y’all okay so

Guild slots may appear to be dummy low now

But you have to remember level reqs are being nerfed, and Salted guaranteed we are keeping our levels AND xp

That means we will jump levels

Hence I assume they nerfed guild slots to balance it out

[regal stream]

The thing with nerfing guild slots is that the big guilds with lots of members will have to cut people in order to make room for whoever gets to stay

Sure guilds do get to jump levels, but it’s easy to feel left out when all your friends are in one guild & you can’t talk to them in guild chat & you have to message everyone individually

That’d feel pretty bad in my opinion

But then again what do I know cause I think guilds are stinky like

[toxic berry]

and ye the slot thing sucks

works for Imp cause we just kicked 30 ppl since we haven't been active in-game but

the others have a big issue

[shrewd cove]

i think you guys ignored Ice's message

level reqs getting nerfed, guild slots decreased proportionally, so we get
potentially scaled up to higher levels with the same guild slots

[queen radish]

Pogging

[keen scarab]

aren't the slots a glitch?

[shut perch]

norp

[potent ibex]

Yes

Since we are jumping levels, we will ALSO receive more slots

It balances out

[regal stream]

Ok that makes guilds less stinky then

[potent ibex]

ngl it still stinky

But not as bad

Not many people are a fan of them cutting xp from territories

It just does not make sense this late in the game

Not to mention that every territory basically has the same standard when it comes to resource and emerald gain

Which doesn’t incentivize certain areas or promote competition

And much of it is without reason considering your guild gets virtually nothing as an entity from warring

You merely get some prof/xp benefits for your players which is rendered useless in majority of the map

Territories ONLY produce what it takes to upkeep them

Nothing more

There is little reason to war

If it’s for level, your time is better spent just grinding xp and not even engaging in the war feature

It doesn’t make sense to change the entire dynamic of levels this late in the game

I really don’t see why territories cannot just generate set xp values, which arguably should have been done at the conception of guilds

It would offer xp and level benefits for warring at consistent rates, leading to a more consistent leaderboard

The whole reason why people HATED glowbulb so much is that a guild could virtually put ZERO effort into warring and just grind glowbulb and level more than everyone else

This exact thing is being proposed now

Cutting xp gain from resources entirely making it worthless towards level gain

Isn’t leveling for war benefits mostly?

So why would we separate xp gain from territories entirely?

[wooden tartan]

woah

i thought this was a meme channel

[hollow willow]

#💰trade_market is a better meme channel

[lethal loom]

Thats a lot of msgs there ice

[shut perch]

icy smart

[lofty ivy]

jeez ice

[final token]

no

[regal stream]

Ice use big sentence & Ice make point

Ice big brain

[final token]

nox2

[flint junco]

:D

[final token]

^

[regal stream]

^

[split copper]

Not my favorite channel 😔

Also join TNL ;)

[lost tangle]

this way it actual gives benefit in 1.20, making wars way more useful than pre 1.20 that are just mindlessly warring ffa for guild xp and warcount that give no real benefit

im excited with all the new res and upgrades, the new logistics being introduced

i got 4k wars this year

the only thign i got from those was warcoutn and a bit of xp

on 1.20 ill actually be able to try getting some benefits outside guilds from helding terrs

[potent ibex]

It won’t be brainless ffa warring, that is where you are confused. We are only in this situation because of Artemis’s existence, and it is basically a mutual agreement Artemis will die and we will go our separate ways when the update drops. It has nothing to do with the current dynamic of wars and rather the situation of the guild climate.

[lost tangle]

it has to do witht he current state of wars

every year is a different mega alliance

[hollow willow]

minecraft warring

[potent ibex]

And obviously there are some gameplay advantages, but they are largely useless for majority of territories and has NOTHING to do with the war feature.

[lost tangle]

on the current guild meta u need mega allainces to secure your territories

[hollow willow]

why cant we buy child soldiers?

[lost tangle]

wait we cant?

[hollow willow]

we already commit enough war crimes, whats 1 more?

[lost tangle]

kk thx for allowing me to continue using the children in my basmenet for wars

the thing is that artemis is just another mega alliance

[potent ibex]

I’m not against how wars will function in the new update, I like it. I am NOT arguing against that. My stance is on the secondary changes of wars and what they produce.

Gameplay advantages? Cool

But territories need to produce something of level considering that it is for war perks pertaining to the war feature anyways

And it is too late to change that dynamic

[lost tangle]

what i saw is that most ppl support having xp being produced ust like other resources

[potent ibex]

Yes

I agree

[lost tangle]

are you planning on making a thread on that?

[potent ibex]

Having it generated similar as to how emeralds and resources are

[hollow willow]

what about lowering xp from 3x?

[lost tangle]

i just want wars to work so i can have actual wr experience

i spent 1stxs to do 2 wars

[potent ibex]

I agree

[hollow willow]

what the fuck

[lost tangle]

ye i got pretty mad lol

i spent like 1 hour ranting about over hyping

[potent ibex]

We ALL want a new war experience. I like the war layout, I am merely against the new leveling dynamic proposed.

[shadow lava]

yaeh you were so mad xd

it was funny

[potent ibex]

Tbh xp should be set values as how emeralds are now

[hollow willow]

I mean, its concerning people already found ways to beat guild towers easily its kinda E

[lost tangle]

this is what i see as the worse thing on the new update

most areas have the same value

[potent ibex]

They do

[lost tangle]

not rly

some terrs are special

where u can use the gathering/combat xp bonus

all the rest is basically the same

[potent ibex]

And there is no more xp towards level so you don’t even gain war perks from warring lmao explain

[lost tangle]

also, wars seem to be too easy

i saw a video of shaman duo destroying a tower labeled as heavily defended

[potent ibex]

Wars are not suppose to be impossible, just like how a 22k isn’t

[lost tangle]

ye but they are very easy

[potent ibex]

It is more for strategy

[lost tangle]

should be harder tbh

[hollow willow]

ah yes

[potent ibex]

Ehh if a tower is defended really good, it can actually be dummy hard

[lost tangle]

its still very easy to solo with morph

[hollow willow]

waiting 40 minutes for a war to start just to beat a boss in 5 minutes using shaman is strategy

[lost tangle]

not rly, the max dps of a tower is 50k i think

[potent ibex]

I’ve seen territories say they are defended heavily but they weren’t

[lost tangle]

50-100k dps

u can tank that

[hollow willow]

ofc its still hero beta

[potent ibex]

Like you won’t be able to 1-shot a HQ that is well defended

[lost tangle]

my ignis build has max def and 60% agi

[potent ibex]

You have to attack other terrs first to weaken it

[lost tangle]

maybe not tbh

since the max dps is only 50-100k

u can overheal that

specially if the tower is single attack

it gets way harder if multi attack is upgraded

but its not hard to get max def and 50%+ agi

so the actual dps drops to 5-10k

and that is easy to overheal

[lost tangle]

oh, 100-200k dps

[potent ibex]

The defense is that thing is 82 percent

[lost tangle]

doesnt matter if u can overheal the dmg

[potent ibex]

And you can@upgrade a tower so that it can attack two people at once

[lost tangle]

the total health and def isnt that important

u just need to be able to overheal the tower

[potent ibex]

You can upgrade a tower that can attack two people at once and typically tanky builds won’t be able to generate enough damage on this thing to effective

[lost tangle]

is this with hq bonus?

[potent ibex]

Surviving is one thing, killings another

[lost tangle]

my ignis tank build has like 5-8k dps

[potent ibex]

I don’t think so

You have to remember that

The tower has 82 percent defense

[lost tangle]

u just need 5 tanks and u should be able to take that

[potent ibex]

You will@barely be doing damage

[lost tangle]

ye, so 2.5million ehp

its like the eye

u eventually kill it

[potent ibex]

It is doing 200k per seconds on u

[lost tangle]

not rly

[potent ibex]

Yes

[lost tangle]

for example in my ignis build

[potent ibex]

Max

[lost tangle]

150 def and 100-120 agi cant remember

so that dmg gets reduced in 90-95%

so instead of 100-200k its dealing 5-20k dps

[potent ibex]

And again, wars are not meant to be impossible

[lost tangle]

fully upgraded tower should be impossibçe

specially if its the hq

[potent ibex]

That is why you weaken them

You attack other support territories

[lost tangle]

ye but that tower seems weak enough to be taken down directly

[potent ibex]

Trying to one shot an established HQ is just suicide and a waste of time

[lost tangle]

if u get like 300k ehp, which isnt that hard

a team of tanks should be able to take the hq down

[limber river]

remember towers get stronger the longer the wars go

[lost tangle]

;o

[limber river]

so outtanking is important but if you don’t kill it fast enough

[lost tangle]

then maybe its not possible

how much stronger sheepn?

[potent ibex]

Wars get harder

And if you have been in one, strong mobs start spawning too

[limber river]

not sure but that’s an intended feature

[potent ibex]

So you get damaged by the tower AND mobs

[lost tangle]

those mobs arent very strong lol

[limber river]

even with a max tank fire build i doubt anyone has sustain for 100k dps

and if they do they don’t have the dps to kill it

[lost tangle]

eh, koh mage, ignis archer +3 abso sham

[potent ibex]

It gets strongerrr

[limber river]

shaman is an issue though

huge heals and high dps

[lost tangle]

and that is the best upgraded tower

[limber river]

class limit in wars should be a thing

[potent ibex]

Another tower example

[lost tangle]

gl on getting 30k of each res

[potent ibex]

Literally look at that HP

Over a million HP WITH DEFENSE

[lost tangle]

that is the same with the eye

a few million hp isnt much

[potent ibex]

Roughly 70 defense

Towers get stronger and more resistant with time

[limber river]

abso has what... 1k heal per second?

face tanking 5k dps shouldnt be part of wars, 5 shaman afk toteming on tower isnt fun

[potent ibex]

13k damage per second you would have to be constant healing and still giving damage output for well over 2 million HP

[lost tangle]

koh mage should have more heal per second than shaman abso, but no dps

[potent ibex]

And it gets stronger with time

[lost tangle]

its only like 1-3k with def and agi

very easy to overheal

[potent ibex]

Tanky builds won’t be able to kill that

Like gl

[limber river]

abso

anyone have an abso build

[lost tangle]

abso has good dps doesnt it?

[limber river]

ye buttt i think it depends on how the tower gets stronger

[lost tangle]

ye

[limber river]

do all stats improve?

[lost tangle]

the stronger over time might make it impossible

[limber river]

at what speed... etc

wars just take more commitment

[potent ibex]

The point is to weaken an HQ but cutting down other territories first

[limber river]

you need scrolls and pots, a well built team

[lost tangle]

but then, u shoudnt have enough res to make more than 1 tower fully upgraded

[limber river]

well we dont need full upgrade

[lost tangle]

ye im shooting for a couple lvls under max on my hq

[limber river]

im not gonna complain about resource and wars yet cuz no one can do it

ive done 3 wars

[lost tangle]

and go either full attack or full defense/hp

[limber river]

much rather complain about xp rn lol

[potent ibex]

Where ya warring

Are u the glitched terrs

[limber river]

which would those be'

[potent ibex]

I think Twain and Elkurn got glitched

There some glitched jungle terrs

Honestly glitched terrs everywhere

[limber river]

i think its all glitched lol

[lost tangle]

lev said something about HERB spending 7sxts trying to war

and only getting like 6 terrs on the end

[ornate forge]

das waht sheep said

xd

[limber river]

yeah

rn it just eats le and does nothing for us

[lost tangle]

@potent ibex what if i joined ano when herb partying on 1.20? 😳

seriously tho, you guys have to think if yall will accept ppl for them to get the bonus xp/dmg on herb

[limber river]

ew

dont do that

[lost tangle]

and similar thing for prof and grind spots all over the map

[potent ibex]

See we don’t know if FFAS will still be universally recognized

They are still feasible

[lost tangle]

i dont think ffa would work

[limber river]

meh kinda true but like

[potent ibex]

It does

[limber river]

resource travel time

etc

[lost tangle]

the tax u would have to pay for the upgrades...

[limber river]

no one will defend while people in jungle can defend ez

[potent ibex]

You pay with ur own money and then there is no wait time

[lost tangle]

the value just to start a war...

[potent ibex]

And resource travel is much quicker

[limber river]

1 terr per 2 mins is like

[lost tangle]

but the tax u will pay while sending the resource

[limber river]

hours from gavel to herb

im not warring for herb cave

feel free to claim that ano

[potent ibex]

We aren’t gonna have taxes

Useless in our corner of map

[limber river]

1% is tax no matter what

[lost tangle]

ye i dont think i would war in terrs that arent beside wherever eden settles

[potent ibex]

Yeah

Like we in the most invalid position for taxes

Trade routes or territories in between regions will be really nice

[lost tangle]

all corners have this problem tho

[potent ibex]

From taxes you can get all the resources u need

Not necessarily. Swamp might be a corner but ERN has Llevigar

Deserts leads into SI

[limber river]

so leave jungle

[ornate forge]

SI?

[potent ibex]

Nah, we decided no matter how our current standings become we would stay, as a final respect to our current allies.

[lost tangle]

SE

[shadow lava]

silent expanse

[ornate forge]

ye thats what i thot

[potent ibex]

SI is gonna be HOT property

[lost tangle]

i dubt ern can get all llevi and swamp

isnt it like 50 terrs?

[potent ibex]

Salted said himself he expects SI to be popular

[lost tangle]

what is si???

[potent ibex]

Sky Islands is the best place. It has all four resources and is the highest level besides SE

[ornate forge]

oh

[limber river]

oh

[lost tangle]

oooh

[ornate forge]

lmao

[lost tangle]

it has prof stuff

[limber river]

ill leave that to avo

[lost tangle]

and mirror

[potent ibex]

The only benefits of warring are prof and xp advantages for players, so high level terrs are the good ones

[lost tangle]

few of the high lvl terrs

[potent ibex]

And a guild could literally headquarter mirror cave and just do grind parties with their xp benefits for level

[lost tangle]

only popular grinding and proffing terrs

[potent ibex]

It’s broken

Me no like

[lost tangle]

not rly

you need supporting terrs

to upgrade the hq

[potent ibex]

Ofc

[lost tangle]

no upgrade hq is so weak

[potent ibex]

I imagine they would have them

[limber river]

yeah they wont get the resource for max xp bonus anyway

[lost tangle]

but ye, avo is in a position to snag rbl

[limber river]

by the time resources get there chances are guild can reclaim the no def terr anyway

[potent ibex]

They would have every resources

[lost tangle]

low def terr is soloable by morph in under 1min war+ the wait time

[potent ibex]

Assuming whoever grabs it takes Kandon farm

[limber river]

oh i thought you meant any guild could come along during a party and grab RBL

[lost tangle]

i dont think u need all 4 base stats upgrades to makea strong terr

[limber river]

yeah ofc the guild that owns SI will be pogging on there

[potent ibex]

It wouldn’t be smart to take mirror cave and not the rest of SI, I already assumed if they headquarters mirror cave they owned the rest

[limber river]

defense and health are kinda interchangeable

[lost tangle]

i think in 1.20 small guilds will have less opportu nities than today...

[potent ibex]

I swear they took current claims@and mapped resources accordingly

The way the resource map lowkey reflects the current territory guild map

[lost tangle]

its good for guilds without terrs rn but that are big enough

[potent ibex]

Like our claim is cleanly cut pure wood

Anyways terrs are useless if they don’t generate xp

[lost tangle]

but but herb xp bonus

[potent ibex]

The only benefits would be gameplay advantages that only really matter in some territories or high level places

And if guild contributing xp is the only way to level, I can already see many guilds only recruiting high level players now

[final token]

No claims 😳

[potent ibex]

So high level areas are exclusively ideal

[lost tangle]

even for wars

[potent ibex]

Kinda lame

[lost tangle]

u cant war without being lvl 100 in 1.20

[potent ibex]

Like wtf is xp benefits in Ragni or most of Wynn gonna do

[lost tangle]

and having proper builds

[potent ibex]

It isn’t even a significant amount

It is higher level territories with grind spots that guilds can use to grind level

But that invalidates most territories

[lost tangle]

what terr other than herb and rbl u think would be useful for combat xp?

there isnt any other major grind spot in 1.20 i think

and only like 8 terrs useful to upgrade prof xp

[potent ibex]

Well again

It isn’t that significant

They can’t offer significant gameplay advantages to guilds

Literally get an xp weapon or armor set

It still makes no sense that the benefits from warring don’t pertain to the feature itself as it does now

[lost tangle]

not rly, its a huge thing

if ano ends up getting jungle and herb

you can get up of 300% xp bonus on herb

ppl would pay stxs of le to get that much xpb on armor

[potent ibex]

300?

Link me to the chart

[lost tangle]

ye, combat xp bonus goes up to 300

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1DrjKlphzG0Rz6c_RFL_SgZCCEDnFZOf3dZTekAeSGtg/edit#gid=2135220956

with only 5k fish you already have 150% bonus

[potent ibex]

That’s a lot tho

[lost tangle]

is that bonus addded on the total xp or on the base mob xp?

ye its op

[potent ibex]

And 150 percent is .5 more

[lost tangle]

for mirror for example

wut

[potent ibex]

300 percent is x2

[lost tangle]

nono, its +300% no?

[potent ibex]

Yes

X2

[lost tangle]

+300% makes it 4 times more

if u get 100 xp

300% is 300 xp

so its 100+300

=400

that is 4 times

[plucky cedar]

^yea

[lost tangle]

and 150% is +150% so 2.5 times more then the base

[potent ibex]

It is not x3 xp

It is a multiplier on the xp earned

You don’t get the normal xp and the multiplied xp

[lost tangle]

it isnt a multiplier lol

[plucky cedar]

Then does the 20% mean that you get less xp??

[lost tangle]

*50%

ye, that would give less xp

its +

its additive

or *(%+100%)

[potent ibex]

Based on how builds work, it would be x2

Look

100 percent is normal

That is normal

[lost tangle]

yes

then u get +300%

[potent ibex]

150 is .5 more

[lost tangle]

it goes to 400%

that doesnt make sense

bc then the first upgrade is 20%

[potent ibex]

1.5 multiplier

[lost tangle]

so the first level is .2 multiplier?

making u get less xp?

[potent ibex]

No

[lost tangle]

then why on 150% its *1.5

and 20% isnt *.2

[potent ibex]

That chart is not even made by a staff member

[lost tangle]

it should be +150%

[potent ibex]

Just a player charted it

[lost tangle]

ye

u can check the upgrades easily on the terr u have

but wdym, the exact value makes no difference if its multiplicative or additive

[potent ibex]

@civic bane

Which is it

400 percent is x3

[civic bane]

what

[lost tangle]

no

[potent ibex]

300 percent is x2

[lost tangle]

400% is times 4

look, go to examples

100 is 100%

[potent ibex]

No, 100 xp at 400 percent is 300

[lost tangle]

400% of 100 is 400

400 is 4 times 100

[potent ibex]

Because 100 percent is normal

[civic bane]

kiwi is logically correct here

[lost tangle]

thx

[civic bane]

dont know what else to contribute much

[ornate forge]

wow ur smort kwii im so proud

[final token]

Tf is this math

[ornate forge]

no more smooth brain

[plucky cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/killua-killua-zoldyck-head-shake-shrug-hunter-xhunter-gif-16776768

[potent ibex]

Does it function the same way builds function?

[lost tangle]

thx lev i steal ur intelligence but i dont know that

[final token]

Guys its not math class

Tf

[plucky cedar]

Wait wrong gif

[lost tangle]

yooo best hxh character

[plucky cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-funny-fall-submit-play-gif-16179688

Meant to send this

[ornate forge]

lmao

[potent ibex]

Wynn multiplier is weird

How is it functioning in this sense?

x3 max xp on a terr?

[plucky cedar]

Lets say you gain 1k xp per node without hunted nor bombs

You will be able to gain 4k xp while in your guild territory

[potent ibex]

Also that is some broken shit I mean mirror cave with that multiplier minimum would do more than glowbulb, not including xp bombs or armor

[lost tangle]

the guild xp on terr is multiplier i think

[potent ibex]

And we were NOT happy about glowbulb

[lost tangle]

but im not sure

[plucky cedar]

Do you mean mob experience?

[lost tangle]

ye, the x3 thing from mobs in your terr

it should be x3

not +300%

[plucky cedar]

Its the same as the gathering xp

Instead of getting 1 xp

You will get 4

[lost tangle]

on 1.20 mirror should be better than its currently

since avo can get 4 times xp instead of 3

and the lvl req will be like 10% of what they used to be

[plucky cedar]

Btw you know that it all depends on the formula that they use

Why AVO specifically?

There is no xp income from territories

[ornate forge]

cus avo most likely gonna hold mirror

[lost tangle]

ye but /gu xp 100

and +300% combat xp from upgrades

[potent ibex]

Well AVO currently owns SI it is assumed they will go after it naturally