guild_community

[median locust]

they thought they finally drained our crops but then we turned on 1m+ crop regen

and the res is back immediately

[cunning blaze]

insane claim either way

[ivory holly]

we be doing too much

[median locust]

yeah that claim is insane

[cunning blaze]

you have to input the hour too lol

[median locust]

its so nice to defend it

but maintaining is extremely annoying

[ivory holly]

i dont need to i just do

[median locust]

not to mention that the sheer amount of terrs basically nerf the shit out of high ping ecoers

which are usually the people defending in dead hours

[cunning blaze]

you must have suffered a lot

[ivory holly]

i even do time in UTC + 0 so everyone can read it easily

[median locust]

i die from the inside when i see taq has taken control of corrupted orchard

yknow how like

[cunning blaze]

we were going to wipe seq today but we kinda got bored

[median locust]

templates dont work on that claim if you are on wynntils menu

so i had to

manually 0def every terr

[cunning blaze]

doom and despair

on high ping too

[median locust]

yeah

i just ask someone else to do it usually on that claim

but there was a time where tgas cut nesaak

and i had to manually 0def everything without template

never have i more wished i have installed fuy

[cunning blaze]

fuy.gg advertisement all along

[median locust]

wynntils eco menu sucks ass man

[cunning blaze]

i agree

tho fuy's buster can just, not connect

[ivory holly]

yo

im losing my mind

[median locust]

on that claim i just use /gu territory [name] to eco

[ivory holly]

i just realised

[cunning blaze]

which deletes your ability to eco

[median locust]

since the menu doesnt work properly

[ivory holly]

we sniped almuj 2 hours ago and i havent stopped

[median locust]

wat

i think you are going insane twin

[cunning blaze]

i think our world tour took 5 hours ish

last one we did

[ivory holly]

i did

2

today

[cunning blaze]

speed runner

[ivory holly]

like balls

[median locust]

how fun is current meta

relative to like the last few

[ivory holly]

nah im enjoying

cuz our tech got even better

[median locust]

gg

[ivory holly]

60k or 120k same process just 2 or 3 more consus

[eager gull]

Why not

[median locust]

it just doesnt

wynntils menu breaks down when theres 80+ terrs in the menu

at least for high ping

[eager gull]

Let me contact my wynntils contact

Ive had it happen before

Just didnt have a clue why it happened

But it being 80+ terrs makes sense

[ivory holly]

do i feel bad at this point

[eager gull]

U should wipe them now

[ivory holly]

we put them on regen eco for the last like 8 hours

[cunning blaze]

THE paladins united said pls

[eager gull]

Wipe their tres

Make their regen take 2% longer

[ivory holly]

😭

[thin dove]

I think we should all stop voiding res when we snipe

Its very mean

[ivory holly]

erm

na

[median locust]

defender guilds when they have to defend

[cunning blaze]

defender guilds when they are contested

[ivory holly]

defender guilds when they are sad

[eager gull]

What about the NA region, hm?

[ivory holly]

They stink

[eager gull]

Let me do quests

[ivory holly]

pls give me EU wars

[eager gull]

Still dont know why my suggestion wasnt optimal

Of making wars happen in the region they were queued from

[obsidian pagoda]

required 1 minute of dev time directed awya from fruma :(

[median locust]

i assume thats because wars are hella outdated idk

[eager gull]

They are pretty much just moving everything away from warring

U dont need wars for anything

[ivory holly]

my eyes are starting to hurt its also 12c in my room my toes are freezing

[eager gull]

Kinda feels like they want to delete wars at this point

[median locust]

very personally i do think wars should remain as optional content

but they should at least give you more

in terms of personal benefits

[tawdry delta]

why are some guilds uncapitalized smh

[ivory holly]

only thing warring gives is despair

[cunning blaze]

despair to the defending guild

[tawdry delta]

and friends ❤️

[cunning blaze]

which is fun

friends too

[median locust]

:(

[ivory holly]

its their tag

wdym

[tawdry delta]

oh wait

is NewM not NEWM

or Aeq not AEQ

[deep shale]

https://tenor.com/view/ea-nasir-eanasir-copper-live-reaction-ancient-history-gif-9022442934948268787

[cunning blaze]

its Aeq and NewM yes

[tawdry delta]

oh my bad

[ivory holly]

bro

ur in aeq

wdymmm

[tawdry delta]

proceed with depair ghawst

[median locust]

😭

[ivory holly]

i thought i was fried

[tawdry delta]

too much warring

[ivory holly]

bro cant remember his own guild tag

[tawdry delta]

i only keep nia guild tag in mind so I can jump into warring testing housing

you have to understand

[median locust]

better than my friend who thought ratc was attacking us a few days ago

[ivory holly]

❤️

[median locust]

because he thought we are still in wynn claim

[ivory holly]

did u see

my very cool

war ship

[cunning blaze]

doom and despair

[ivory holly]

on our ghouse

[cunning blaze]

i did!

[ivory holly]

it has a cool map

very cool

[cunning blaze]

its needs better access, since its a fucking maze

[eager gull]

Arent u aeq

[ivory holly]

u just stink

[eager gull]

Or did u leave

[ivory holly]

there is literally a teleporter to a hub

noob

[median locust]

i went to seq

[eager gull]

Ah

Only 1 letter difference pretty much the same thing

[median locust]

mf you were literally asking me to close borders

last season

[eager gull]

Oh true

[ivory holly]

@manic sage

[eager gull]

I have dementia man

@cunning blaze its 3:14 am

[cunning blaze]

omg

it is

my time

[median locust]

pi!

[eager gull]

Congrats

[cunning blaze]

wise have you been pestering anyone for war changes

[median locust]

no im groot

[eager gull]

Hi groot

[hybrid isle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cat-stare-stare-wtf-whatever-gif-25183190

[old flint]

what other servers have war mechanics that aren't just vanilla pvp

[cunning blaze]

like none lmao

factions

raiding in factions is an interesting case

[ivory holly]

i did 13 snipes today i am fried

[median locust]

go take a break vro

[cunning blaze]

leave some snipes for the rest of us

[tawdry delta]

stop

[eager gull]

When will guard tank meta be back u think

[cunning blaze]

we had to move around your snipes

[ivory holly]

3:21 am i go slepe now

[median locust]

gn

[ivory holly]

never

ignis for life

[eager gull]

Gg

[ivory holly]

all that

for this warcount

sniping so goofy

should stop doing dries

[eager gull]

Right after i got a wars guard it just got nuked

[light solar]

you need 100 more

for the magic number

[old flint]

true, factions exists.
there's the outpost style warring where you pvp to defend an outpost whenever it gets contested

but that one's just vanilla pvp with extra steps

[pure belfry]

@ivory holly let's kiss

[median locust]

wars are interesting in a way that its pve in terms of combat

but pvp in terms of management

[old flint]

yea it's pvp but it's not vanilla mc pvp

[ivory holly]

i mean if ur offering

[median locust]

i really like the game theory aspect of it

[pure belfry]

yo we can't I lied

[ivory holly]

😔

[pure belfry]

you'd get locked up sry twin

[pure belfry]

there is no nash equilibrium in this game dawg

[ivory holly]

im sorry i wont do it again

[cunning blaze]

lets schedule our snipes so we dont coincide again

[median locust]

yeah it doesnt really exist but

ecoing based on attacker pattern is fun

its like psychology

[ivory holly]

like airport takeoff slots lmao

[pure belfry]

what does this even mean in English

[eager gull]

Ano recruit was telling me u tried to snipe ano 4 times

[cunning blaze]

setting trap meds

[pure belfry]

are you taking to alla6

[ivory holly]

here xD

[eager gull]

He joined my housing and started talking about it

[pure belfry]

bro thinks he's donbass baka

[cunning blaze]

we did 😔

[median locust]

gonna 0 def hq for seekings during the dead hours 🙏

[pure belfry]

yo they succeeded today put some respect on the aquarium

[ivory holly]

a wise man once said u can 4x6 ur hq if nia team aint on

[median locust]

it still holds true 😭

[pure belfry]

aeq reference

[median locust]

just that i’d get screamed at if i do that

[eager gull]

0x4 ur hq so nia gets bored of sniping it

[ivory holly]

lowkey

that would work

[cunning blaze]

abusive relationship

[old flint]

oh yea the outpost warring i was remembering was dungeon realms

[eager gull]

Ecoing based on attacker pattern @median locust listen to the thinkers

[median locust]

so true twin

[old flint]

https://tenor.com/view/survival-bias-survivor-bias-plane-survival-survivorship-bias-plane-survivor-gif-14038855391553325733

[median locust]

dont own a claim so you dont have to defend

[cunning blaze]

genius

[eager gull]

Dont play wynn so u dont have to war

[cunning blaze]

einstein over here

[eager gull]

Ooook ksbb

I see how it is

[ivory holly]

my personaly philosophy

[eager gull]

Your guild will never hold any territory

[old flint]

just like sqm...

[eager gull]

My guild will wipe u

[median locust]

who has the gif

[eager gull]

At the end and start of every season

Mark my words

[old flint]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1251241981213151232/1364358989550321675/image_5.gif

[median locust]

gg

[old flint]

i then proceeded to almost exclusively attack etkw for a season or two

[eager gull]

None leaves all our territories at vlow so new players can war us and be successful

[old flint]

so generous

[eager gull]

You leave all your territories at vlow because u cant eco

We are not the same

[ivory holly]

there we go nia is on everyones hq

[median locust]

i was like calculating whats the least drainable claim configuration is so i can defend the easiest

but the conclusion i reached was fucking vlow full claim 11x4 hq 💀

[old flint]

i notice an orange glass at the left of Wynn

no nia there?

[eager gull]

The answer has always been right there

No cap when u get attacked just vlow all the shitter terrs in corners

[ivory holly]

we have some self respect

[light solar]

where's rol

[old flint]

realistically if you have a big enough guild and claim, why do you actually need to defend the edges of it

[median locust]

after being in the mega claim i realise how important that actually is

[ivory holly]

not important enough (cant fit)

[median locust]

since you cant even benefit from any terrs like 7min away from your hq if you are under attack

[eager gull]

I did it on smaller claims

It just helps

[median locust]

yeah

[eager gull]

U save some free res

[median locust]

i usually dont have the necessity to do it and i just use it as more like a last resort

[eager gull]

And if they take it and u retake u can get even more res

[cunning blaze]

for sr

[median locust]

since vlows do attract random guilds and its annoying

[eager gull]

U get more resources if they take them

[median locust]

fair yeah

[eager gull]

Bc when u retake u get res :D

[median locust]

i still wanna shut down stuff as fast as possible

[eager gull]

I guess

[median locust]

since defending is just

minimising the time it takes

[eager gull]

It really depends on who attacks u

[median locust]

true

[ivory holly]

whos like

the best snaker

guild

[eager gull]

The guild with the most nolifers

[cunning blaze]

sorry im bored on top

[ivory holly]

but like actually good at snaking too

[eager gull]

Any sniping guild can snake really well

Unless bad at eco

[pure belfry]

qzz

😃

[cunning blaze]

the oldgens are good at snaking but know thats basically wasting their life

[eager gull]

Because it is

Just snipe and skip hours of wars

Snaking causes people to burnout 10x as fast

[cunning blaze]

the only time i snake is to teach people what warring is, as background activity so they dont get bored

[eager gull]

Unless u do it for fun

[median locust]

do you even need to know eco to snake

since its just

[cunning blaze]

yes

[eager gull]

I mean kinda

[cunning blaze]

otherwise youre just taking territories for no reason

[median locust]

move hq to next terr and set up em prods appropriately

[eager gull]

U dont wanna know how many times ive had to tell people to stop voiding res

[median locust]

oh snaking for a purpose

i thought its like tgas type of snake where its just

snaking to annoy you

[eager gull]

I see snaking as a thing u do solo

Or duo at most

[tardy garnet]

5 man snaking team

[eager gull]

Maybe a third as dps if theyre on

[tardy garnet]

snake around the entire map

[cunning blaze]

snaking with snipe team

[eager gull]

War team snake is peak

[cunning blaze]

no vhigh shall stop u

[median locust]

literally was happening last season

[eager gull]

Tbh with 3 solos u can take 11x4 if u bring like aura scrolls and merc food

[median locust]

11x4 traps dont work because people are pulling a whole snipe team to snake

[ivory holly]

at that point

just snipe

[cunning blaze]

but what if you cant take hq (avo)

[median locust]

yea idk why most of them went to snake instead

[pure belfry]

don't war? game is shit and boring?

why is this a question

[ivory holly]

Having fun

[median locust]

ig snaking is like

[ivory holly]

with people in call

is whats its about

[median locust]

way more traumatising than sniping to the defender guild

[pure belfry]

play another game

[ivory holly]

i enjoy snoiping very chill endeavor

[pure belfry]

there's gotta be a better one

like

stardew valley

[ivory holly]

nah i gotta think

[pure belfry]

press 3 buttons to kill tower? or edate pixel woman

the choice is yours

[cunning blaze]

warring is boring i agree

[median locust]

shitting around with friends is fun

and in wars you can shit around a lot

[ivory holly]

fr

[pure belfry]

coming from Skyblock player btw

[cunning blaze]

the friends make it fun, and the annoying is funny. thats kinda it

[pure belfry]

don't trust him

[median locust]

sb was goated since it kills time during covid

[pure belfry]

can you revive dungeon gang

[median locust]

@flare

[pure belfry]

is it still a server

[median locust]

think so

but its dead i think

[pure belfry]

like

yeah ok

yo I remember them giving mod to monkeys

and everyone getting themselves banned

[median locust]

😭

sb dungeon was like

another level of fucked up

[pure belfry]

it's not better now

[median locust]

i was a skill grinder back then i only did cata 50 after doing literally everything else at that time

because the community is like

fucked up

i like the gameplay but i dont like getting screamed at for losing 2s in a split

[pure belfry]

it's way funnier though

[median locust]

yeah ig but its mentally taxing after some point

[cunning blaze]

time killer minigame, just like the rest of the server

[median locust]

and i was dogshit at it

[eager gull]

Throwback to the first guild to change their name even before guild name tokens were added

[median locust]

so it didnt help my case

[eager gull]

[IOYR] Child Lovers

[median locust]

😭

crazy name

[pure belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1293999168582582334/1350684836502831144/togif.gif

[old flint]

[KIDS] tag exists btw

[eager gull]

I remember their owner had a crashout about having to change the name

[median locust]

the tag is fine

[forest ridge]

Hi

[median locust]

like you can argue you are just a bunch of kids

[tardy garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-silly-goofy-discord-gif-12077722220628211034

[median locust]

LMAO

WHY IS THAT A THING

[cunning blaze]

thats what a

[old flint]

created 3yrs ago
last seen 3yrs ago

[eager gull]

Airing dirty laundry

[forest ridge]

Sorry 💔

[eager gull]

Get ur stinky socks out of here

[median locust]

dont say stuff like that in gcomm

[old flint]

an unnamed empire lore
idk like mongolian or something

[cunning blaze]

i missed this episode i think

[median locust]

people do get banned for making jokes like that

[forest ridge]

Ts crazy…..

This wynncraft shi get deep

[cunning blaze]

i remember there was a doc about the opinions everyone had about everyone else in a guild

this is super old so i dont rememebr shit about it

[pure belfry]

can't be old at all 😂

[cunning blaze]

sorry i got bad memory

[uncut plover]

nice

[cunning blaze]

nice

[forest ridge]

Gg

[median locust]

gg

[eager gull]

I remember i was chilling in hoc housing and this rippi person joined asking me about some guy named bloop on discord

[old flint]

the oldest guild known to man

[median locust]

whos bloop

[cunning blaze]

oh yeah

[forest ridge]

Tf

[old flint]

there are a lot of KKK guilds

[median locust]

how is this not removed yet

[eager gull]

It was really funny ngl

[cunning blaze]

i remembered you from the polytopia dc so might as well say hi

[cunning blaze]

guild so popular they got regional branches

[eager gull]

U said u heard i was warring in desert somewhere i was very confused

[median locust]

😭

[eager gull]

[….] guild in an alternate timeline

I cant say the tag i will get banned

[old flint]

dishonorable mentions to Burger KKKing, Kind Kissable Knights [KKKn], KKKracker [CRK], KKKang, and Kirby Krew [KkK]

[tacit rivet]

gg nice snip

[old flint]

honorable mention to AnimalCrackers

what a goated name

[pure belfry]

please don't talk about cracking animals in my discord channel

[median locust]

the animal shaped biscuits fr

[old flint]

https://tenor.com/view/animal-cracker-party-animal-crackers-crackers-party-gif-10577082

old ahh guilds

my old guild

[eager gull]

Black fangs is pretty old

[old flint]

i made it on my cousin's old mc account

aw hell naw man

last seen 7 months ago

there are a lot more but im gonna stop spamming gcomm w/ em

"FizzOnMyJayce"

[eager gull]

Its so annoying that 5 year old last seen guilds get to use up some genuinely good tags tho

Not like those

[unborn harbor]

who is thenelston?

[forest ridge]

wynncraft youtuber and founder of ICO aka IdiotCO

used to be a big guild

now its dead

[old flint]

bc he got beaned

[drifting obsidian]

hq analysis tool
finds best hq spot given a claim

[forest ridge]

does it count externals

[charred owl]

Etkw 🤔

[odd junco]

i made this like 2022

except CLI tool

[eager gull]

Lol

There is a literal command for it

In multiple bots

But it is nice to have it visualized

[drifting obsidian]

im so late to this 😔 😔

[drifting obsidian]

yes

[drifting obsidian]

you should check out the new ruea feature

[forest ridge]

wonder why it doesnt show corrupted warfront

cos thats like standard hq

[drifting obsidian]

for which guild?

[forest ridge]

aeq

thats for megaclaim tho

[drifting obsidian]

this is the aeq claim i have in the sim

[forest ridge]

tho i think detlas claim has warfront hq too

[forest ridge]

yes thats the one

so statistically corrupted warfront isnt good hq?

hmm

[drifting obsidian]

corrupted warfront is 3rd candidate

[forest ridge]

why was cathedral harbor highlited then

[drifting obsidian]

thats for full map claim

[forest ridge]

ohh i see

makes sense

i wonder how hard a full map claim 6 conn hq would be

[forest ridge]

crazy

1m dps

not possible surely

[tardy garnet]

been done before

under different dps/tank meta

and another time with funky bug abuse

I love cathedral harbor!

[drifting obsidian]

and chokepoint analysis

[tardy garnet]

oughhhhh

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1128301925461397525/1409321234088329216/attachment-3.gif

[drifting obsidian]

lemme run it again
ill weight the emerald less than resource

[old flint]

does it not account for resource travel

[drifting obsidian]

it doesnt
but now that you mention it
ill implement that

[tardy garnet]

also isnt it usually obvious

[tardy garnet]

anyone whose warred more than like a month knows ideal hq spots

[drifting obsidian]

well its a tool for learning and experimenting around
and i want to have these kind of stuff for people to use and try out

[tardy garnet]

fair

[old flint]

desert hq was villa forever until someone swapped to almuj
tools like this can help people find new metas quicker, or refine current ones if enough data supports a change

[cunning blaze]

would be useful for the inexistent war ct

[drifting obsidian]

thast crazy

[tardy garnet]

it was villa because at that time HQs were harder to take and even highs were more difficult

and almuj was less hit

[old flint]

im just saying things change

[tardy garnet]

Would allow more even treasury generation across the claim,

things do change that is true

but wynn devs too lazy to change war meta 💔

[silk holly]

desert east upper hq is better

[old flint]

which territory even was desert east upper

the wood one?

[drifting obsidian]

hq spot and choke points

[silk holly]

i think it is forgorten barrackt

new name

[old flint]

the right terr being weighted higher than almuj is crazy

[drifting obsidian]

this is without anything buffed
it does take prods and traversing resource into calculation

[drifting obsidian]

nothing is buffed yet

[old flint]

invaded barracks i think

[old flint]

give it current desert eco

[drifting obsidian]

yeh 1 sec

erm im too lazy

[old flint]

just ask gobb grok what the optimal hq spot and choke points are

[tardy garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/kitty-no-thoughts-tongue-out-gif-12831505556671933557

[drifting obsidian]

im thinking of writing auto eco algorithm
optimizing and regenerative algo

[old flint]

he'll confidently give you the ||in||correct answer every time

[cunning blaze]

algorithm that tells u how to war

new age of warra

[tardy garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/true-gif-14423606592036775082

the return of autoffa....

[drifting obsidian]

someone needs to deploy ai to war and eco

[tardy garnet]

autowar my beloved (in case of federal investigation I have NOT used any illegal modifications of my wynncraft client!)

[drifting obsidian]

investigate ts guy feds

[old flint]

left click right click left click right click

[tardy garnet]

i got top 30 in wars for a reason!

[old flint]

(with monster)

[tardy garnet]

(i manually warred all that shit. I hate))

[old flint]

right

[tardy garnet]

shit im probably no longer even top 30 anymore

[tardy garnet]

I was a day one apoc soloer

FUCK monster solo

tstack apoc my beloved 💔

[late edge]

now why would u want that

[old flint]

monter solo works

what else solos hards with no consu

[tardy garnet]

I miss greed tstack apoc pre 2.0...

[old flint]

i miss low level solo warring against 2 billion mobs

[tardy garnet]

dammit! im still ahead of keldorn so its ok

[tardy garnet]

it is NOT christmas

get stantas name out of your mouth!

[eager gull]

Abso

[silk holly]

flameshot hilt tstack assassin

[old flint]

"with no consu"

[tardy garnet]

Hell yea

inferno solo 😼 😼

[cunning blaze]

lament can solo some highs consuless

[eager gull]

Abso works with no consu

[tardy garnet]

evil mage soloers trying to spread their propaganda....

soloing 4x11s is FRAUDULENT!

[cunning blaze]

will u be the mosnter to my lament

[tardy garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/meow-cat-cat-trip-cat-fall-kitty-gif-14426836968979840999

[eager gull]

Ive literally posted a video

[tardy garnet]

Fake news! your war team was invis and edited out!

[eager gull]

Gg

[late edge]

christmas is a mindset

you decide when it ends

[old flint]

would that be slower than monster

how would you do any damage

[eager gull]

Apparently it does more dps

[eager gull]

Acolyte buffs moment

[tardy garnet]

ends NOW!

[late edge]

i do not appreciate this unjolly spirit.

[old flint]

but then your hp??

[tardy garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-the-voices-jolly-christmas-gif-5774532700081404887

[cunning blaze]

fanatic mask

[drifting obsidian]

new choke analysis
with a really bad eco

this is where the prods are

and def of each terrs

[tardy garnet]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1240662452652347452/1402169168073326652/attachment.gif

[candid cape]

woah

axolotl

i love u

[cunning blaze]

this lowkey looks like survivorship bias plane

[dense nymph]

You’re the guardian to my paladin

[cunning blaze]

ummm

[old flint]

it's still saying that right terr but that really isnt too important

[drifting obsidian]

erm yeh ion know
my algorithm might be fried

[old flint]

fix

[tardy garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/ao-dodo-doudou-oye-cat-gif-9835748083343970562

[old flint]

i want it to be good

[candid cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1126850058202136648/1360192726624374784/togif.gif

[tardy garnet]

i disagree.

[drifting obsidian]

ion know
but it do need to be fixed for auto ecoer

[light solar]

that reddit post was right

[candid cape]

too far

:C

[empty pecan]

what reddit post

[light solar]

https://www.reddit.com/r/WynnCraft/comments/1q3wt0s/is_wynncraft_hosted_by_drdonut/

[tardy garnet]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1086535274877694002/1233238740722389023/caption-3-2.gif

aw hell naw

not those shitty fuckass youtube shorts

[empty pecan]

i mean this is just dns, but test.wynncraft.com being a redirect is odd

[cunning blaze]

basically donut smp servers are goated

[cunning blaze]

this might be the part of their contract, you use our servers, you promote our store

[light solar]

take or rr

[cunning blaze]

how many pulls duh

[empty pecan]

i mean but theyre not even promoting

[cunning blaze]

planning to promote

thats why its test.wynncraft.com

[light solar]

its a daily

[cunning blaze]

oh take

free 35 le

[tardy garnet]

who loves robots

[light solar]

i rr

id rather have the le

[cunning blaze]

oh well

[drifting obsidian]

you should check wynn's dns record

[late edge]

I hate clankers

[tardy garnet]

WHAT!

its the only way im keeping my fulguro scrap farm running....

logistics without logistics bots on that fuckass planet is impossible!

[late edge]

Taking jobs away

Could’ve been 1000 underpaid workers

[tardy garnet]

https://tenor.com/view/factorio-bureaucracy-byoorocrazy-tax-dollars-hard-at-work-gif-18492819

[old flint]

https://discord.com/channels/143852930036924417/1460130075944161372

[thin dove]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1446243951127564459/1449038208368382193/togif.gif

[unborn harbor]

whered u get this and hows the stuff calculated?

[drifting obsidian]

my eco sim

[light solar]

@reef rosem

daynean uploadedf

[drifting obsidian]

1meow

[light solar]

its aphelios season

[old flint]

https://discord.com/channels/143852930036924417/1460138618227134578

[eager gull]

Bro be posting stuff

[hidden salmon]

It’s not but there is a reason for it

[old flint]

what can i say, im a creative guy 😎

[median locust]

bro groot

[thin dove]

bro groot

[unborn harbor]

ah, dyt you could share it with me or is it private? i wanted to mess around with stuff

[drifting obsidian]

its not private yet
there are web version and desktop versioin
though i stop updating the web version because of lazy

[unborn harbor]

o lol

[drifting obsidian]

which one do you want?

[unborn harbor]

web version is fine ig

[drifting obsidian]

https://ruea.seqwawa.com/
theres no choke analysis or best hq spot

[unborn harbor]

choke analysis?

[median locust]

choke points

[unborn harbor]

idk how eco works

[median locust]

basically a territory where a lot of the resources flow through

[drifting obsidian]

[unborn harbor]

oh

[median locust]

you know your claim right

ano claim

[unborn harbor]

yes

[median locust]

basically skien would be a major choke point

because notice how resources from selc and other places go to your hq through skiens

[old flint]

how wise

[median locust]

while stuff like pirate town is not a choke because barely anything flows through it

[old flint]

how drag

[drifting obsidian]

choke analysis for ano

[median locust]

how tf is rooster island this bright

[old flint]

hq should be #1 choke

[drifting obsidian]

though this is without any prod or buff
so its not accurate

[median locust]

o

i see

[unborn harbor]

whats prod/buff

[drifting obsidian]

the algo takes that into account for the calculation

[median locust]

prod is production of resources

basically in eco you use emeralds

to increase how much a territory produces

or use ore + crop to increase emerald production of a territory

[old flint]

i thought all gcommers warred

[median locust]

just ask your guild about ecoing if you wanna learn about it

its fun

[unborn harbor]

ok

[drifting obsidian]

thinking about it
i wanna make some kind of war planner where it tells where to attack for maximum damage using it with war simulator
and run it against defending auto eco model

[median locust]

sounds cool

[unborn harbor]

ffa minmaxing

[old flint]

reviewing war logs like chess.com game reviews

[empty pecan]

i mean i dont think its hard to figure out where to start an attack, you either go for draining (easiest resource to drain first), chokes, or snaking

[old flint]

Brilliant!!

[empty pecan]

but like ive also seen pople say that about ecoing

[unborn harbor]

what is the hardest dry snipe

anyone has doen

[empty pecan]

bt

bloody trail

[median locust]

has no one dried cw yet

[charred owl]

Not hardest

[median locust]

11x4 cw

[old flint]

bandit's toll 🔥

[empty pecan]

that someone has done

[charred owl]

No

[median locust]

tf

damn

[viscid fiber]

Nia did 202k

Dry nwe

[drifting obsidian]

nem cath?

[empty pecan]

cath harbor hasnt been done, no?

[drifting obsidian]

or sum shi like that

[charred owl]

I mean it’s harder than nwe

[empty pecan]

oh was nwe done

[charred owl]

Because of tower

[median locust]

yeah the tower is

not that great

[old flint]

one day we'll get to dry elkurn (we really shouldn't, please nerf this)

[viscid fiber]

Yeah like 2 days ago

[charred owl]

With bugs everything has been done probably

[viscid fiber]

Don’t think it’s possible rn lol

[median locust]

elkurn hq would go kinda hard

[old flint]

not right now, but one day

[empty pecan]

well only elkurn and cath harbor left ig

[old flint]

probably the same day fruma drops

oh god

[unborn harbor]

how does one learn eco and how tower stuff works thers so muc

[old flint]

player dmg and hp are going up

[drifting obsidian]

also ion know if this will be legal
but something like an extension to my sim where it gets data from a mod for real time data
and it make suggestions on ecoing in game

[median locust]

usually you get someone to teach you

[old flint]

there's no way they balanced wars for fruma

[median locust]

its hard to figure stuff out yourself

[old flint]

unless war update with fruma

please god 🙏

[empty pecan]

i mean if its player made and you claim to have no connection its legal

[median locust]

you need someone to instruct you and you will understand how it works through experience

[unborn harbor]

i tried to do that but i was just lost on how trading route stuff works

[old flint]

but the day fruma drops is the day cw gets drysniped

[unborn harbor]

can you move res from one terr through other guild terrs

[icy surge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1133866289601970347/1404178530828550216/1370959767216066700.webp

[drifting obsidian]

yes if they open border

[empty pecan]

i know its illegal to scrape territory data

but i know some guilds are doing it.

[median locust]

normally you move it from your guild territory

[old flint]

normally, yes but tax and you lose most of it

[median locust]

but in the case where the res travels through other guild territories

[unborn harbor]

ah

[drifting obsidian]

call them out fo real

[median locust]

you get taxed

[unborn harbor]

so tax applies to that and

[median locust]

usually 5% for allies and 70% for enemies

[unborn harbor]

uh

[old flint]

up to 70%

[empty pecan]

i dont have proof to my claims

[unborn harbor]

how do i see enemies

of guild

[empty pecan]

my belief is baseless

[median locust]

your guild will tell you

[unborn harbor]

oh

[old flint]

sequitas and aequoia

[unborn harbor]

what about people who arent enemies or allies

[median locust]

but just treat all guilds as enemies if not allies

[empty pecan]

i didnt wanna say it but i KNWO sequoia got it like that

[unborn harbor]

oh

[median locust]

ok “enemies” isnt really a term here

[old flint]

for sure

[median locust]

but in the cases where you have to deal with 70% tax its usually a guild attacking you

[drifting obsidian]

erm ngl i havent seen anything in seqmod that does that

[old flint]

maya considered me enemy #1 for all of my days of annoying avo

[median locust]

since you have all neighbour guilds allied

[old flint]

secret branch

[viral lichen]

what 😭

[drifting obsidian]

i was in the dev branch </3

[empty pecan]

worst eco ever

[viral lichen]

what does maya have to do with avo

[empty pecan]

altguild

[viral lichen]

there is no way

😭

[empty pecan]

im just talking out of my ass btw i have no idea of a single alt guild

[unborn harbor]

oh yeah what does treasury mean

[empty pecan]

every X time, production is boosted

[viral lichen]

like im being deadass, that is completely false

[median locust]

treasury affects how much the territory produce

basically a reward for holding a claim long enough

[old flint]

secret branch fork

[old flint]

me when im actively being drained

[old flint]

it's how long you've held the territory and dictates how much extra res you get from the territory

where did my wifi go

[empty pecan]

1 hour gets boosted 10%, 1 day 20%, 5 days 30%, 14d 40%

or something like that

[median locust]

its 10 20 25 30 iirc

[empty pecan]

which decays farther away form your hq

[empty pecan]

coud be true.

[old flint]

someone in avo left and made maya i think

batman07

[old flint]

something like that

they stopped targeting me after we talked i think?

[empty pecan]

i lowk think people use altguild too freely, they just see 2 guilds attack at once multiple times and say theyre altguilds

[old flint]

i was told specifically it was because of my months spent snaking avo

[median locust]

i’d see it as more like

propaganda

[old flint]

@dull tree are you the person? if so, can you please explain i dont remember

[drifting obsidian]

yeh it also is that
but sometimes its an alt guild

[old flint]

anyways i gotta schleep, peace

[median locust]

yeah

[unborn harbor]

when eco was added to the game how did people figure things out

[old flint]

go upvote my asymmetric asynchronous dungeon builder / crawler war rework post
https://discord.com/channels/143852930036924417/1460130075944161372

[median locust]

its just accumulation of experience

[unborn harbor]

ic

[median locust]

like eventually the community is gonna arrive at whats nearly optimal

[drifting obsidian]

gn

[viscid fiber]

We dried them 3 times today on conn builds

It was so laughable

[median locust]

but its still hard to figure stuff out on your own if you are not a sweat

since there are many details that i probably wont even be able to go through

[empty pecan]

do i win?

i think i may have been beat by mimimimimi

[median locust]

so if you want to learn ecoing just consult a ecoer in your guild

[viscid fiber]

Mimimi

[blissful abyss]

2029 war update upending eco by changing every ter route and prod

[unborn harbor]

sounds good

[red sigil]

Hello

[median locust]

i mean even if all routes are changed the fundamentals of eco still hold

[odd junco]

Hello.

[median locust]

and i think its way more important to learn the fundamentals of it

[blissful abyss]

Gavel now has 0 crop ter anywhere

[unborn harbor]

grape

[red sigil]

Hello

[blissful abyss]

No aura for you

[median locust]

fire

[odd junco]

https://tenor.com/view/deuces-peace-out-goodbye-meme-twitter-gif-6064559135468442053

[red sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/deuces-peace-out-goodbye-meme-twitter-gif-6064559135468442053

[empty pecan]

i genuinely wish the resources of every territory every season were randomized

[odd junco]

any dernaL users

[empty pecan]

ME!!

[forest ridge]

Don’t forget the 6th resource

Mentality

[red sigil]

what is dernaL

[drifting obsidian]

hi!

[drifting obsidian]

player activity bot

[red sigil]

Aounds like magbot but worse lol

[drifting obsidian]

erm

then theres mine

[empty pecan]

is this an alt

[red sigil]

??

[empty pecan]

least obvious sircmt alt.

[odd junco]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-patrick-water-bottle-bottle-head-gif-27083229

[red sigil]

Bro is braindead

[median locust]

check me

[empty pecan]

no.

[drifting obsidian]

how many days

[red sigil]

Actual patrick star

Reincarnate

[median locust]

7 ig

[odd junco]

ts cracking me up

[median locust]

i just wanna see how much groot i did

[red sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/deuces-peace-out-goodbye-meme-twitter-gif-6064559135468442053

[blissful abyss]

The 6th resource is players who actually want to do war instead of graiding

[odd junco]

https://tenor.com/view/deuces-peace-out-goodbye-meme-twitter-gif-6064559135468442053

[empty pecan]

thats not a resource.

[blissful abyss]

Human Resources

[drifting obsidian]

its a hidden reasource trust

[odd junco]

Mr Ping.

Please do your research.

[drifting obsidian]

on god

[red sigil]

Hello HR?!

[median locust]

only 60% activity in those days tf

[empty pecan]

my entire activity chart would be afking

[median locust]

i should lock in more

[drifting obsidian]

thats like 15 hours of constantly raiding

dawg do you not sleep

or well not have a life

[odd junco]

please check mine sir

[median locust]

i slept too much

[empty pecan]

you see his name?

[empty pecan]

expected.

[odd junco]

https://tenor.com/view/deuces-peace-out-goodbye-meme-twitter-gif-6064559135468442053

[red sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/deuces-peace-out-goodbye-meme-twitter-gif-6064559135468442053

[median locust]

cool bot tho ngl

i like the graphs

[empty pecan]

i know those alts are bustling

[odd junco]

check my alt's (oomy)

[drifting obsidian]

ong

[empty pecan]

been knew!

[red sigil]

ye my alt

Acktually

Immthe main one

[odd junco]

i made this alt a decade ago btw

[red sigil]

LMFAO

[odd junco]

https://tenor.com/view/deuces-peace-out-goodbye-meme-twitter-gif-6064559135468442053

[red sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/deuces-peace-out-goodbye-meme-twitter-gif-6064559135468442053

[empty pecan]

wait new hq locking strat, 2 accounts in 2 guilds queueing 1 minute apart from eachother

[drifting obsidian]

either you were offline or api off or sum

[lusty pelican]

What eco? We literally gifted all our res to FUMO and after that the storages were removed. None of the terrs were ecoed, they had no defs or anything.

[median locust]

cant you just do it with 1 account

like just requeue it every 2min

[empty pecan]

yeah but there are like seconds were it isnt queued

where a move could happen

[median locust]

fair enough

[odd junco]

dernaL

[median locust]

idt any defenders are gonna like

catch that timing

[empty pecan]

seq did

[median locust]

as long as you are fast enough

[empty pecan]

when i tried it on them

[median locust]

oh gg

[empty pecan]

i need a macro to queue.

[odd junco]

dernaL but good (dernaW)

[drifting obsidian]

dar naww

[red sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/deuces-peace-out-goodbye-meme-twitter-gif-6064559135468442053

[drifting obsidian]

der*

[odd junco]

https://tenor.com/view/deuces-peace-out-goodbye-meme-twitter-gif-6064559135468442053

[empty pecan]

aura loss

[drifting obsidian]

shhh

[odd junco]

who excited for feb gng!

https://tenor.com/view/we-are-charlie-kirk-we-carry-the-flame-kirkification-song-gif-2727471398083163580

[median locust]

lowkirkenuinely

[empty pecan]

god the automod actually hates me

[red sigil]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-kirk-gguh-trending-meme-charlie-kirk-gif-260876314022351132

[odd junco]

ping why is your bot named after the worst region of the map

[empty pecan]

i would say worst

but lutho exists

[tribal marten]

dernel is peak

[empty pecan]

its dernal

only uncs change the a to an e

[tribal marten]

im british

[empty pecan]

oh

carry on.

[odd junco]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1353942856133509120/1454921382285541672/ohio.gif

[shut skiff]

that’s terrible

[median locust]

british linnyflower

[shut skiff]

i’m so sorry to hear that

[tribal marten]

oy mate. we got proper ingredients to make! im chuffed to bits.

[thin dove]

guys

[median locust]

😭

[thin dove]

how many externals is cathedral harbour

[shut skiff]

36

[tribal marten]

34

[median locust]

too many

[tribal marten]

fuck i was close though

[thin dove]

good answers guys.

[empty pecan]

check denral /hq

[fresh slate]

True

[shut skiff]

shameless

[empty pecan]

how else do you think i got to 2000 servers

[unborn harbor]

will there be 7 conn terr in frumer

[odd junco]

yes

[empty pecan]

no

[shut skiff]

2000 wtf

[median locust]

its crazy to think that there are 36 terrs that you can reach within 3min of res travel

[thin dove]

Omg thank you.

[median locust]

literally undrainable

[viscid fiber]

Oh no an a3

[shut skiff]

you can cut off all of ocean and gavel with like 3 takes i think

[empty pecan]

sadly my number is right i triple checked

[median locust]

im imagining like

[drifting obsidian]

its 6/36 on mine too

[median locust]

you dont overextend the claim

[shut skiff]

oh

[empty pecan]

oh

[drifting obsidian]

but then theres wynn math mode

[shut skiff]

idk why i just imagine full map if its cath

that makes sense

[median locust]

what would optimal cath harbour hq claim be

so it doesnt overextend

[shut skiff]

nia next snipe ^

[viscid fiber]

💀

[drifting obsidian]

weird that my sim calculate the hq damage and hp right even with wrong bonus %

[shut skiff]

hi lava

are you british?

[drifting obsidian]

or is it?
ion know

[viscid fiber]

No i don’t have that disease

[shut skiff]

thank god

[median locust]

the bonus % is definitely wrong

[forest ridge]

hi gcomm

wsg

[drifting obsidian]

wait how is it calculated again

[median locust]

wait i think why its wrong

conn and ext bonus should be multiplicative no?

[empty pecan]

i got my shit from https://nori.fish/docs/?doc=guild-tower#

[median locust]

and hq has base +50% on ext

[shut skiff]

additive bonus for cons and ext

[empty pecan]

i do use multiplication

[median locust]

yeah this formula is right

im fairly sure

[drifting obsidian]

so conn times exts instead of adding them up

[median locust]

ye

and hq has base +50% ext

[drifting obsidian]

aite ill fix it

[shut skiff]

oh fr

[drifting obsidian]

yeh

[shut skiff]

crazy

[thin dove]

this is correct

[shut skiff]

verified by real and true sqm patriots

[thin dove]

omg thanks for the gif idea

i calculated tower stats with a spreadsheet for a long time

[tribal marten]

i remember doing this before essentuan made the ilq calc sob

[unborn harbor]

ping @empty pecan

[empty pecan]

i locked fumo hq for 10 minutes until almuj was able to be attacked

and i thought they would move after not being locked to almuj

they didnt

[thin dove]

fumo keeps hq on ruined villa

😭

[empty pecan]

a classic mistake.

[thin dove]

ruined villa hq is good

[empty pecan]

isnt it like barely better than almuj

[shut skiff]

yeah

one external

[thin dove]

better tower

[shut skiff]

it’s also one minute closer to rymek

[thin dove]

im pretty sure its a better tower at least idk

[median locust]

i tried ruined villa hq at some point honestly i’d still prefer almuj

[shut skiff]

the downside is you have to defend a city

[thin dove]

im not do big into the desert eco game

[empty pecan]

i like almuj because its hq on city

[lost pine]

rv is beeter than almuj cuz 1more external

[median locust]

its so costly to defend the routes on ruined villa

because your ore terrs go from 2 different routes

[empty pecan]

i genuinely dont think when it comes down to it 1 external is doing much

[median locust]

• you got a city to def

[tribal marten]

i like almuj hq more cuz u can expand into deltas area and annoy the shit out of whoever owns mine base😹

detlas*

[median locust]

yeah about detlas claim

[empty pecan]

theyre taking linny's strat

[thin dove]

😭