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rapid arch
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badping πŸ’€

summer cove
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that bot is so high

green elbow
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who is gonna do the manual math

stable quest
summer cove
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its not lmao

green elbow
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albin my goat

frail niche
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true

summer cove
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albin knows how to do math compared to the bot 😭

shut skiff
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can someone just manually count the exts

rapid arch
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Albin the last great person in AVO πŸ˜”

green elbow
green elbow
shut skiff
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nuh uh

summer cove
rapid arch
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na

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only Albin

summer cove
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and notes rn

rapid arch
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is he back in AVO

summer cove
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yea

rapid arch
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my condolences to him

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make that 2

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2*

stable quest
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cinfras outskirts is 21 externals 5 conns
Talor cemetery has 20 externals and 5 conns
I think (could be wrong)

stable quest
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talor cemetery conns are stronger though as they have more conns

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although cinfras outskirts has 2 conns that not touched by other conns

shut skiff
green elbow
frail niche
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those who twist their housing

shut skiff
stable quest
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and also cinfras outskirts is more central

shut skiff
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is that talor cemetery ext

stable quest
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so yeah cinfras out skirts is better

green elbow
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thats not in range...

shut skiff
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i guess the bot is high than

odd junco
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cinf outskirts is better

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mathematically πŸ€“

shut skiff
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yeah ofc

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it’s a way better spot

green elbow
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@empty pecan your bot sucks

frail niche
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kander thanos always had co hq

stable quest
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❓ ❓ ❓

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maybe I was just typing it in wrong

summer cove
odd junco
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or they dont handle input correctly

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@empty pecan fix it NOW!!!

green elbow
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YEAH

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FIX IT

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@empty pecan

stable quest
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@empty pecan pinging ping because I can

empty pecan
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I’ll look at it in a sec

empty pecan
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yeah i saw the issue, just forgot to change waterfall cave to the new name after territory changes

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also i hate that command, math and rankings seemed right but the percentages are just sometimes not right, I need to redo that for sure

hexed hemlock
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@eager gull

acoustic karma
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@empty pecan bleh

old flint
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Also, guilds have uuids???

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Epic

empty pecan
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actually the territory shit is json but same shit

old flint
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Lol I meant the part that would be python

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Ope gotta go

eager gull
hexed hemlock
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😭

lone aspen
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EVERY1 plains ffa have fun

empty pecan
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YAAAY!

empty pecan
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bested by fub

tiny violet
old flint
empty pecan
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there is nothign to queue besides toon and mleb

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i gotta wait on nemract timer ig

eager gull
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T

empty pecan
half mason
empty pecan
lone aspen
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lol

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have fun guys

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more megaclaim snipes on the way hopefully

old flint
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Thank you Flora πŸ™

old flint
whole drift
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mag square tears_holding_back_face

flint shuttle
whole drift
icy surge
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isnt this just kander claim

tender lark
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back in my day it was not usual to have 50 territories πŸ’”

whole drift
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back then lf and aldorei weren't part of it

tender lark
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yea

whole drift
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we also warred like 4 guilds at once taking all it ion remember

whole drift
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how've you been nynnf

rotund pecan
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half the guilds are green or smth rn

old flint
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green on top

odd junco
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@tribal marten who made it so that switching weapons removes your focus crying

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genuinely archetypical destroying change

empty pecan
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uhhh i assume there is a reason

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probably that shit is tied to weapons, even like the healing bar shit in lightbender

odd junco
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yeah the problem comes with when you try to cancel the shift ability from escape to hover in midair

viral lichen
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doesnt for me

viral lichen
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actually makes sharpshooter unplayable

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πŸ™

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please fix

odd junco
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dont worry they just want you to play bolt or trapper 😊

viral lichen
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both sharp and bolt are kinda unplayable

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and trapper is hard carried by gma and laby

odd junco
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they'll fix it next patch with 3 new abilities for paladin

viral lichen
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surely they also fix battle monk

cloud gulch
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new paladin ability called shield throw and it just throws all your mantles and does base 100k damage

viral lichen
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ever since they buffed battle monk dps in the last patch, my dps went down

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I am geniunely convinced they are throwing random negatives on some numbers and accidentally lowering the dmg instead of increasing the dmg

tribal marten
glad salmon
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trickter..

hazy furnace
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1 selv ma_happy

tiny violet
shut skiff
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chatgpt knows his shit

tiny violet
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I didn't tell chatgpt to answer that much specifically btw

tulip chasm
tardy garnet
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very official i suppose

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its got sdu stamp 😭

icy willow
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wsg chat stay hydrated

crude vortex
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80000 dps πŸ‘€

viral lichen
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@tardy garnet

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nice hq

crude vortex
hollow vessel
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52k 3.0

viral lichen
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are they gonna hide the stats just like nia

viral lichen
tardy garnet
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defs weren't high bc ecoers were trippin fr

crude vortex
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isnt SDU keeping 11*4 on hq?

charred owl
tardy garnet
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unfortunately ecoers forgor to buff it

crude vortex
viral lichen
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xd

tardy garnet
hollow vessel
tardy garnet
viral lichen
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just high ehp, the dmg is quite low

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they have both crop and ore choke 😭

crude vortex
tardy garnet
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wait why does etkw fail like

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5 times on relos

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when they can just dry

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πŸ’”

crude vortex
crude vortex
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@ salted please AS warring server

tardy garnet
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ong i need my asia warrers to not have literally 500 ping

hollow vessel
crude vortex
tardy garnet
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salted oes not like asia confimed...

sullen lantern
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asia doesnt like wynncraft confirmed

crude vortex
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this is old SDU HQ status

sullen lantern
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if you want more as servers gotta get the player numbers up

tardy garnet
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dps...

viral lichen
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is that solo dps

crude vortex
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yep

viral lichen
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please tell me that is

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dps must have locked in

tardy garnet
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fire icl

crude vortex
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i dont think we can dry seq

tardy garnet
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(bug abuse...)

viral lichen
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depends on what they buff

crude vortex
tardy garnet
crude vortex
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all aura failskull

tardy garnet
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you guys lost it at 1 con 0 crop

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how ...

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like 3 times

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0 ext

crude vortex
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aura fail

tardy garnet
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doesn't corkus have

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a very

crude vortex
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?

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real?

tardy garnet
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bruh

crude vortex
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πŸ€”

tardy garnet
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explains all the aura fail...

crude vortex
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lag make our solo dps rip

tardy garnet
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rip

crude vortex
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so sad

tardy garnet
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asia and eu war servers when....

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or just asia

crude vortex
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isnt they added eu warring server?

tardy garnet
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afaik no

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unless it like never happens unless all 5 warrers are eu

crude vortex
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:doom:

viral lichen
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or it just doesnt happen

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I always get warped into na

crude vortex
viral lichen
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but I used to get warped into eu and got bad ping all the time

crude vortex
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me too

viral lichen
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this was back when eu servers were terrible

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and now they switched

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na is terrible and eu is good

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πŸ”₯

crude vortex
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eu raid is 300ms
eu warring is 800ms

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πŸ’€

light blaze
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skibidi

acoustic karma
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@light blaze mic up

light blaze
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skibidi

warm knoll
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@light blaze why do u have 2 discord accounts

hazy furnace
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@hollow temple tf why r you guys names swapped

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drip is 19kss, 19kss is drip

rotund lotus
hazy furnace
light blaze
warm knoll
light blaze
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idk

viral lichen
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[13:52:17] ========================================
Tower Stats - Initial

Mine Base Plains [AVO]
✣ Damage: 31050 - 46575
➑ Attack Speed: 4.70x
❀ Health: 18975000
⛨ Defense: 90.00%

       Tower Stats - End           

========================================
Mine Base Plains [AVO]
✣ Damage: 31050 - 46575
➑ Attack Speed: 4.70x
❀ Health: 0
⛨ Defense: 90.00%
πŸ•‘ Time in War: 38s
βš” DPS: 5.1M

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o7 avo hq

viral lichen
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we sniped it with our guard having a black screen

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like completely broken

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we told him when to dodge aura

tardy garnet
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fire icl

viral lichen
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[13:58:11] 󏿼󐀆 [AVO] has lost the war!
[13:58:11] 󏿼󏿿󏿾 Your guild has successfully defended
󏿼󐀆 Essren's Hut.

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bro I buffed like 30s after...

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they could have queued

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ggs

cloud gulch
viral lichen
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I got told under 7m is low πŸ˜”

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the solo guard does wonders

hazy furnace
tardy garnet
hazy furnace
viral lichen
hollow temple
torpid ore
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@everyone

empty pecan
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@here

torpid ore
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Sry for pinging all of u 😁

obtuse phoenix
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vai se foder closia

old flint
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Brasiliero?

torpid ore
obtuse phoenix
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why

empty pecan
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the formula was right, but I never accounted for this, so it was also wrong on guilds

old flint
obtuse phoenix
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thats what i speak

stable quest
old flint
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I didn't notice the fallen intoxicating blood change a couple weeks ago. That should be pretty handy.

tardy garnet
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the last of sustain / proper ways to survive as fallen outside of specific builds is what kept me away from running it

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i love the changes πŸ”₯

eager gull
hazy furnace
hazy furnace
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go to the photo of the one single goose, google lens the row of houses

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redfin has a very similar image

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itll show on first page of google search

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but anyhow idrc if you know what neighbourhood i live in

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you cant knock on every single door

hazy furnace
eager gull
hazy furnace
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the correct image i saw as first result on google lens search had a white duck in a corner

hazy furnace
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far too much effort

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you and i dont have grudges or grievances

eager gull
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You underestimate how unhinged i am

hazy furnace
# eager gull You underestimate how unhinged i am

if you do find it for the sake of finding it, you wouldnt post it here because a certian moderator is biased against you and would instant delete and mute if you posted anything remotely suggesting rule breaking

eager gull
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I’d do it just to do it

ionic garden
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it would be very funny

viral lichen
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<@&268142859327242242>

sour sequoia
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@dawn glade

viral lichen
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its not even free nitro this time

sour sequoia
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noob

graceful lynx
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yoooo

eager gull
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FUCK YEA

sour sequoia
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does it have twinks

graceful lynx
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LMAO

sour sequoia
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aw man

dawn glade
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smh

eager gull
dawn glade
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erm

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wtf new tag..

viral lichen
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o7

sour sequoia
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cal and ben keeping all the twinks for himself

dawn glade
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xd

turbid shuttle
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what the freaky

dawn glade
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i liked the gems better πŸ’”

viral lichen
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wtf is this new tag

sour sequoia
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wtf

pulsar crown
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WHERES MY GEM

eager gull
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Give me clash of clans free gems

dawn glade
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alas..

sour sequoia
eager gull
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@steep bronze clash of clans free gems generator?

viral lichen
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did they only post the spam link here in gcomm, damn they targeting the most gullible people

pliant epoch
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Na bro we don't need your server here we got NSFW Jr aka the etkw discord server hehe

honest vale
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not safe for wynncraft

obtuse phoenix
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Im joining this server rn

honest vale
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The server has leaked war builds guys

sour sequoia
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does it have cat girls

pliant epoch
obtuse phoenix
obtuse phoenix
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I hope they are legal as well if they have any

sour sequoia
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uh oh

obtuse phoenix
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Im not into illegal things

lapis sand
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Shaman smug

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@viral lichen @sour sequoia @deft glen sh_smug

icy surge
deft glen
hazy furnace
odd junco
odd junco
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Decline.

green stone
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bad mistake

viral lichen
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freakvicia

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not very shaman smug

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@lapis sand @deft glen @sour sequoia sh_smug

rapid arch
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πŸ€–

winter pumice
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Meow meow

green elbow
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Wtf is this new mod color

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Whose decision was this

whole drift
tender lark
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WHATTTT

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@MODERA

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MDORRATT

violet raptor
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<@&268142859327242242>

tender lark
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HELP

viral lichen
tender lark
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Diddy mode activated

viral lichen
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raided twice in 1 day πŸ₯€

tardy garnet
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ohhh moderatorrrr

viral lichen
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thank you mods

tender lark
subtle valve
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guild community

tender lark
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ytinummoc dliug

frail niche
subtle valve
frail niche
icy surge
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is it nfsw discord invite

tender lark
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WHERE

rotund pecan
hollow temple
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,,

night oracle
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hi guys ive travlled far to get here, may i ask where i can find the community in this guild?

subtle valve
frail niche
old flint
subtle valve
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god i love TAq

old flint
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Do you actually

frail niche
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no she just represents it

hazy furnace
winter pumice
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meow

shut skiff
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meow

winter pumice
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:3

subtle valve
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i am the embodiment of all their beliefs and ideologies

winter pumice
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Mleb on cons..

tulip swallow
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Just wanted to help cow for scrap </3

summer cove
acoustic karma
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@subtle valve are you still wandering around the mountains

tulip swallow
frail niche
acoustic karma
subtle valve
subtle valve
tulip swallow
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woaw.

frail niche
subtle valve
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i worked twelve hours yesterday and will work eleven hours today

tulip swallow
subtle valve
tulip swallow
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for working 1month?

subtle valve
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82 hours of work $88.42

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i’m goated

tulip swallow
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πŸ’€

frail niche
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thats not good rates

tulip swallow
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bro getting paided 1.2$/h

subtle valve
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no imm goated

frail niche
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i think wynncraft ct are paid more

tulip swallow
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have you thought about you being exploited?

subtle valve
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no i’m goated

tulip swallow
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alright 🐐

frail niche
subtle valve
frail niche
hazy furnace
acoustic karma
acoustic karma
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Kinda flexing on u bub i wouldnt let that slide

warm lodge
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@acoustic karmadont like u

acoustic karma
warm lodge
acoustic karma
warm lodge
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confidential

frail niche
warm lodge
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@light blaze hi!

hazy furnace
icy surge
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[!] Congratulations to Doctor S** for reaching combat level 105!

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gng

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what the fuck

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how is that allowed

summer cove
icy surge
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Last seen: 3 hours ago

summer cove
acoustic karma
sour sequoia
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so romantic

acoustic karma
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what songs do you listen flare

sour sequoia
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i like to listen to orchestra while im coding

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helps me focus

acoustic karma
sour sequoia
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yeah

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im doing an internship right neow

acoustic karma
acoustic karma
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like what langs u use

sour sequoia
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im using python and cpp

acoustic karma
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are u a data science

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guy

sour sequoia
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backend stuff

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not really

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im like working on infrastracture

acoustic karma
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that uses python?

sour sequoia
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yeah

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python's only part of it tho

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basically python is used for the frontend

acoustic karma
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im thinking of making a neural network

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but im not so sure....

sour sequoia
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"frontend" in the sense that its the language other developers use to interact with what im making

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the actual calculations stuff happen in cpp

acoustic karma
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cpp?

sour sequoia
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c plus plus

acoustic karma
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aint no one calling it cpp

sour sequoia
sour sequoia
acoustic karma
sour sequoia
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i think its easier to type than c++

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you can make a neural network to wynn wynncraft

acoustic karma
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but i will make it in rust

sour sequoia
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just don't tell cal and ben

acoustic karma
sour sequoia
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🀫

acoustic karma
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gg

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@dawn glade cal and ben i think this is a great idea

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but you are not supossed to know

acoustic karma
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man rust is so cool

sour sequoia
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my friends tell me that as well

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isn't it like c++ but beter

acoustic karma
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i've been blinded with sick web dev slop

acoustic karma
sour sequoia
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w*bdev

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h*w to c*nter a d*v

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imo backend is a lot more fun

acoustic karma
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to be fa ir

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imo web dev is only good

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if you use svelte as framework

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besides it im never gonna touch it

sour sequoia
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whats svelte

acoustic karma
sour sequoia
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wtf ive never heard of it

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uh oh theres a naked man

dawn glade
sour sequoia
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erm

frail niche
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cal and ben can you unabn the mining macroers

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dernic ingot prices have skyrocketed

acoustic karma
sour sequoia
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i scrolled down the website

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and some video started playing

old flint
sour sequoia
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and it was some guy withoht armor on

old flint
icy surge
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it makes sense

acoustic karma
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but you guys call me mocomochi

eager gull
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Pass

icy surge
old flint
icy surge
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maybe he just cant be asked to type "+" from SHIFT + "="

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extra pinky movement πŸ˜”

old flint
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real

deep shale
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Why code in c++ when you could be coding in assembly?

ivory holly
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why code in assembly whe you can code in whitespace

eager gull
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Smash

old flint
sinful bluff
eager gull
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I write in non-binary for inclusivity

acoustic karma
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why write in binary when you can manually switch ones and zeros

wide shadow
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why write in computer language when you can write with a pencil

wide shadow
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:3

odd junco
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wake up.

rotund pecan
acoustic karma
empty pecan
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speaking of that

sour sequoia
old flint
viral lichen
cloud gulch
obtuse phoenix
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Does anyone know a cool mobile game

obtuse phoenix
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What you guys think about this

acoustic karma
obtuse phoenix
acoustic karma
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meu pc nem funcionando ta

obtuse phoenix
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Γ‰ sΓ³ jogar no pojav

acoustic karma
hazy furnace
hollow temple
hazy furnace
acoustic karma
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how that would affect it

dawn glade
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.....what

acoustic karma
hazy furnace
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Outside of special circumstances(when a controversy is happening) the only mod I’m sure looks at gcom often is shadow so it makes sense to ask them

hazy furnace
acoustic karma
hazy furnace
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Asking if they’re ragebaiting when they have no authority to determine if their message is ragebait

acoustic karma
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@frail egret @tribal marten @twin junco arive my content team

acoustic karma
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so do you have the perms to define your own msg

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ragebait

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?

hazy furnace
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But I know my intent wasn’t to ragebait

acoustic karma
empty pecan
hazy furnace
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But if I get muted by mod that would still be justified

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Because I don’t have authority

empty pecan
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no one is using rbing

hazy furnace
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To determine if I was ragebaiting

empty pecan
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that stands for rollbacking

hazy furnace
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Up to a mod

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You should have pinged a moderator to ask

acoustic karma
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you just not in the community anymore

empty pecan
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i may be "unc"

acoustic karma
hazy furnace
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If there’s any mods watching this conversation right now, can how rule 8 is supposed to be interpreted be explained

acoustic karma
empty pecan
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woah.

hazy furnace
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R8 forbids baiting

empty pecan
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can we stop citing rules, i've never read the rules in this server

acoustic karma
hazy furnace
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Based

acoustic karma
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under control

hazy furnace
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They just don’t bother to mute

empty pecan
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@late edge can you mute both of them for a year

hazy furnace
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😭

empty pecan
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possibly 2

acoustic karma
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@chilly zealot hey johnathan blue

chilly zealot
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hello sir

acoustic karma
empty pecan
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hey @night berry can we get a random person in this chat banned

chilly zealot
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what am i fact checking

acoustic karma
twin junco
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am i your personal content team member to be pinged to arrive

empty pecan
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which one

night berry
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you!

acoustic karma
empty pecan
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not me

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not it!

acoustic karma
chilly zealot
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it depends i guess, but i would generally say it is not disallowed

acoustic karma
hazy furnace
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😭

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Welp

chilly zealot
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if you are actively harassing with the ragebait or something it wouldnt be allowed ofc

obtuse phoenix
chilly zealot
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boa noite everyone

acoustic karma
empty pecan
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am i brainrotted i read that as beta noire

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the helmet

hazy furnace
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Maybe they genuinely believe in it and it’s not stupid to them

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Your ragebaiting is hostile

empty pecan
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can we all just make up

hazy furnace
empty pecan
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spread positivity

hazy furnace
empty pecan
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be whimsical

hazy furnace
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Yes

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Positivity is good

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Be as happy as the shaman in sh_smug

acoustic karma
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i believe you are wrong

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so you are wrong

hazy sky
wide shadow
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😭

hazy sky
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it's still not the plan btw

wide shadow
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you arent real

hazy sky
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i am planning to throw out more insane shit in the future btw

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so you'll never know

acoustic karma
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i wont reveal their name

wide shadow
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they really having dedicated ragebaiters on the ct now

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this is crazy

hazy sky
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:)

acoustic karma
twin junco
acoustic karma
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selvut was the pioneer

wide shadow
acoustic karma
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of ragebaiting

acoustic karma
twin junco
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seperate them

acoustic karma
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i dont think it would make much sense

acoustic karma
twin junco
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darn you mixed demographic

acoustic karma
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or an adult

twin junco
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i couldn't make this joke if i were too old

acoustic karma
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baby status or grandpa status you pick it

hollow temple
acoustic karma
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peace to our time

hollow temple
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It's not RB I believe it is in good faith.

wide shadow
hazy sky
acoustic karma
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what is pontosaurus then

wide shadow
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you people arent real dawg

acoustic karma
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modern ponto

hazy sky
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idt others are willing to take the shit

wide shadow
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why even ask for feedback if you are gonna be secretive about it 😭

hollow temple
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Maybe it's better for the whole thing to be revealed if it is so weird it'd change up how the entire archetype is played randomly .

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Not like this is content it's just balance changes boring as hell

acoustic karma
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ok i was on your side

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dude this is a never ending cycle

wide shadow
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they make the new ct take the smoke

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its ok i understand

acoustic karma
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YOU GUYS CAUSE IT and we the normal peopel GET MAD and we the normal people GET MUTED AFTER SAYING BAD WORDS towards your STUPID ideology

torpid ore
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Ok guys. stop this baiting. i will not allow you to do this to the CT !!

hazy sky
obtuse phoenix
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Cala boca closia, puta que pariu

torpid ore
acoustic karma
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and wonder why the community never on your side

obtuse phoenix
acoustic karma
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if this is ragebaiting ive fallen on it cuse this make no sense

wide shadow
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i think we're falling for it

acoustic karma
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nah there is no way this guy serious about this

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nerve wrecking

hazy sky
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if you gen think that's gonna be worse than not checking what everyone thinks, sure, i can stick to that

hazy sky
torpid ore
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what's so bad about being transparent with the community

wide shadow
hazy sky
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cause there's a lot of stuff we just suggest
and if it's not 100% good
it causes a generational crashout

acoustic karma
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and to be in comparison madeline called me a transphobe and pinged moderators

wide shadow
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but there is genuinely good feedback to be had if people didnt lose it over the vocal minority of copers

hazy sky
wide shadow
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what is your criteria for "working"

torpid ore
torpid ore
hazy sky
hollow temple
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As a community we won't be Cwashing out on the CT anymore it was a severe and continuous lapse in judgement πŸ₯€

wide shadow
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doomed to fail if you are expecting that

hazy sky
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i mean minority of it or whatever

empty pecan
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the typa feedback some people give

hazy sky
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obvs

hazy sky
torpid ore
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thats the insult youre talking about?

acoustic karma
hazy sky
wide shadow
# obtuse phoenix What you guys think about this

id like to think people will be genuine with you if you have ideas to share, at least i know there are people who would be, but i can't say this message isnt going to negatively impact people's perspective of you

hazy sky
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oh sure

empty pecan
wide shadow
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ok i agree with him there

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if you are sharing patched bugs with people thats just begging ppl to find workarounds

hazy sky
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so idc

empty pecan
hazy sky
wide shadow
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you cant possibly expect devs to think of every possible edge case

hazy sky
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btw
since we're trying more openness
what do yall think about fallen having some nodes that distinctly support sustain, and some that distinctly support burst? so that whenever we want to tweak one, the other isn't affected?
(obvs no confirmation or timeline yet)

acoustic karma
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i dont think

hazy sky
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fair, we've all been there

torpid ore
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we ???

obtuse phoenix
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I don’t think one archetype having multiple nodes for diff play styles will be cool

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In terms of design and ability points cost

hazy sky
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could you explain why?

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since if you're playing burst, you just skip sustain nodes

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and vice versa

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@obtuse phoenix

obtuse phoenix
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There are some situations where even if you have a burst build you can’t burst and play safe and the same applies to sustain

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Especially when your teammates die in raids and you’re the last one standing

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And having to choose between these nodes will just remove other ability points like cheap costs

hazy sky
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hmm
fallen does have the most free AP though

atomic glacier
hazy sky
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not quite

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imo

atomic glacier
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generalist air shout intoxicating blood radiant devotee haemorrage

hazy sky
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wait no

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i mean burst

atomic glacier
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if you add more axe kick like nodes it will just make the class feel like shit

hazy sky
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so it'd mostly be burst support

atomic glacier
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and if htey dont have +cost then sustain will take them

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the longer you sustain on burst hte more damage you do

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"burst" is just eotb ring

hazy sky
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we can play around with cooldowns

timid blade
# hazy sky here's your answer

I still disagree with how the approach was taken ngl. You can't gauge what players think about a topic by throwing a completely unrelated idea that doesn't work in the current system and act surprised if they react negatively

Trying to find a system to more distinctly distinguish burst vs sustained fallen is something I can get behind and even agree with, but masking that behind "does bbath use bpact" isn't the way to go about doing it

atomic glacier
timid blade
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For example some of the most productive posts ever were official IM/AT posts about plans for reworking classes (see Linny's assassin post)

obtuse phoenix
atomic glacier
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😭

hazy sky
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i can agree i was in the wrong here

atomic glacier
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also i think burst is fine as is

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btw

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like it literally feels fine to play

acoustic karma
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is leoistired the ct that is gonna fix guild wars

hazy sky
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god no

atomic glacier
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do a lto of damage and fuck off is literally completely fine gameplay

obtuse phoenix
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They are fine the way they’re rn

wide shadow
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the humble solution to the problem that doesn't exist:

sour sequoia
#

is chick fil a open on memorial day chat

acoustic karma
atomic glacier
# hazy sky so it'd mostly be burst support

also burst (0 mana) will inevtiably require rots otherwise you are completely incapable of movement (or you lose burst potential) so adding too many nodes for burst support will make it really shit to not take cleansing breeze

acoustic karma
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everything that dont work on my side is broken

obtuse phoenix
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Only thing I want to be changed about wars is dps output

sour sequoia
empty pecan
wide shadow
timid blade
obtuse phoenix
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I want it to go up to 20m again

empty pecan
atomic glacier
sour sequoia
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it has regular hours

atomic glacier
empty pecan
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you are lying like a mf

sour sequoia
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but it says memorial day might have special hohrs

atomic glacier
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i think burst is unironically in a good spot rn

sour sequoia
obtuse phoenix
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20m is the ideal war dps that we should get

hazy sky
timid blade
wide shadow
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upperbash:

empty pecan
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chat is my solo monstr dps of 50k wack or goated?

obtuse phoenix
sour sequoia
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its good witbout sub flare i think

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no i think

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we need 400m dps

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so the tower dies in < 1 second

empty pecan
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we need 80k dps...

sour sequoia
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that way i can snipe while at work

hazy sky
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ok, what about averages? does burst at least somewhat come close to sustain in actual dps?

obtuse phoenix
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I don’t think burst is a reliable way to measure/compare dps with other things in any aspects of dps

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Because you aren’t constantly doing dps

timid blade
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Kinda depends how you define burst some people consider -mr to be burst and partial sustain to be no burst, for others anything with scream isn't bursty lol

obtuse phoenix
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You’re occasionally removing chunks of enemy hp because of ability cooldowns/your hp

hazy sky
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so if you average it out

obtuse phoenix
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If you count downtime burst will do less than other things in any aspects of the game

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Wars, raids and WEs

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Because you have periods of time you’re useless

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Due to hp regen/cooldowns

late edge
sour sequoia
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wait can we get an abiility that does 500 million true damage but has a 1 day cool down

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(in game)

hazy sky
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no
unless...

sour sequoia
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what if it only does 500 milion true damage if the palyers ign is cal_and_ben

empty pecan
atomic glacier
hazy sky
sour sequoia
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is phase skipping even possible

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i thought not anymore

ionic garden
hazy sky
sour sequoia
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what did moco mocchi do

ionic garden
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Idk

empty pecan
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i believe

sour sequoia
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uh oh

obtuse phoenix
late edge
torpid ore
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@acoustic karma

atomic glacier
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i dont think burst is necessarily in a bad spot though, even without axe kick, maybe its indicative that axe kick needs to be looked at but its like idk

empty pecan
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the bad ones

hazy sky
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pain
maybe i shouldn't buff burst dmg then

atomic glacier
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its locked behind tempest (not used in upper bash)

sour sequoia
atomic glacier
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or use massacre (also unused)

late edge
atomic glacier
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so you invest 3 ap for some bad qol

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maybe i would take it if i didnt have to choose between those two

obtuse phoenix
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Massacre when I can drain my hp before I do the 2nd melee attack

torpid ore
#

no one was rbing in this channel

obtuse phoenix
late edge
sour sequoia
#

blimey

hazy sky
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btw, would bpact scaling on how much health % you spent explode things?

mellow cairn
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I respect u

obtuse phoenix
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And yes

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It’ll

atomic glacier
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dont do that otherwise ambivalence fallen in your raid tomorrow

obtuse phoenix
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It’ll make burst even more op because you’ll waste 12k hp in one uppercut

sour sequoia
#

morpha warp

obtuse phoenix
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To do 1m dmg

atomic glacier
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would make you not have to interact at all

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just burst and back off but like interaction time is genuinely 1 second

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at least now you have 5-10 seconds of playing

obtuse phoenix
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0 int + ambivalence 😼

atomic glacier
hazy sky
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i mean we are considering buffing burst a bit
not that much though
also, would sustain suffer?

hazy sky
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ims will kill us

atomic glacier
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wouldnt hurt sustain

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except generalist would get more damage

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idk i think generalist is pretty honest

rustic snow
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wallah

atomic glacier
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harder to play than other builds

sour sequoia
#

helllo sqm guild leader

atomic glacier
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i dont think anyone takes axe kick rn

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Hello!

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who are you again

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except generalist*

rustic snow
#

generalist dps isn't even that high

atomic glacier
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the other upperbash player i know dropped it

rustic snow
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it's just super sustain

atomic glacier
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but idk my sample size is like literally nol player

sour sequoia
#

n*l

atomic glacier
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so its like me and blaides who play upper bash

sour sequoia
#

wasn't that guy the surprise stroker

hazy sky
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what if it's not %max health
but the common suggestion of % of cost spent on spell with health

atomic glacier
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he plays shade but surprise stroker is pnoot

sour sequoia
#

oh

hazy sky
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idk if i worded it well

atomic glacier
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yeah like something like 15%-25% based on 0-100% of spellcost from hp

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idk i think its in a good enough spot rn

rustic snow
hazy sky
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more like 0-25

atomic glacier
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that would be interesting for sure

hazy sky
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so if sustain doesn't use actual full health cost, they don't get full bpact

rustic snow
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yeah and triple it for bbath surely

atomic glacier
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idk i think sustain is in a decent spot rn

vagrant dust
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for everyone besides bbath

atomic glacier
#

i dont think it should necessarily be nerfed

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it is kinda taking over raids again but i genuinely think it is hero issue not sustain build issue

acoustic karma
#

June 15th gonna be awesome @torpid ore

atomic glacier
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since lets be honest the only viable one is hero

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thrundacrack got absolutely shot dead because it relied on slayer and you can't take rally anymore

hazy sky
#

i mean
if only 1 weapon is viable
that's an isue

sour sequoia
#

i think we gotta buff desperate facimile

atomic glacier
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it doesnt address the fact that the other builds are not so fun to play

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oh yeah and bbath generalist

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i also think the only reason new builds arent popping up is because why not just play hero

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ive tried a couple of etw non generalist builds but its like... barely better than hero each time

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  • no ws
hazy sky
sour sequoia
#

@rustic snow are you joining snipa men aram

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oh you logged off

rustic snow
#

erm

sour sequoia
#

rest in peices

rustic snow
#

I will get back on

sour sequoia
#

oh awesome

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snipa man hit the 11 deaths y asuo power spike

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WTF

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low prio

rustic snow
#

my bad king

sour sequoia
#

what did you do..

rustic snow
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I lost internet connection

atomic glacier
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theres like idol for sustain builds but i think i know only one person who uses it and i wouldnt call that overbearing since its kinda hard to play

hazy sky
#

hmhmhm

atomic glacier
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he like bhops around with charge and has minimal bpact costs

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the way i see it is this: if youre playing a sustain build (outside of stationary target gameplay) you need ws to dodge attacks constantly

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and burst you just dont care about ws since you haev a much shorter window of interaction

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dont care as much*

hazy sky
#

we had some stuff designed
ig we can just deal with it later if neither sustain nor burst need buffs

atomic glacier
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like you dont need to follow targets, etc

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so a really big issue with sustain and the lack of diversity is literally just because you can't support how much you sustain

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idk if its necessarily an ability tree issue its just hard to build around

hazy sky
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it's kinda an atree issue
but not an easily solvable one

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at least without some major rebalances

atomic glacier
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i mean you can definitely shape the atree around to help it

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but i think the item diversity is the real issue

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theres just.... not much diversity in your builds

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you got like caesura delirium and your pick of lower half

hazy sky
#

yikes

atomic glacier
#

or like dune storm sagittarius revenant and your choice of other items

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i tried making a convergence build and it was genuinely just caesura delirium and other items

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otherwise you just... cant do anything with your sustain

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kinda just resorted to either playing charge bhop style or just building ws

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😭

hazy sky
#

we do want to move away from requiring ws as much
so we could add stuff for it
but this is becoming bigger than what we were hoping for

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we might f around with health tho
burst might be able to move again

atomic glacier
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i mean i think small build diversity isnt necessarily a huge issue that has to be dealt with rn

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i think burst might only feel fine to me because i have like super optimized build

hazy sky
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we'll eventually have to deal with it
but i'll push for most of it to be post-fruma then

atomic glacier
#

i think bpact damage would definitely be cool

hazy sky
atomic glacier
#

thats true

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i think 10-20 range wouldn't change much for current sustain that much

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and would give a small buff to burst

hazy sky
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as in have the floor be higher than 0?

atomic glacier
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yeah

hazy sky
#

that could word ig
i'll bring it up then πŸ‘

atomic glacier
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just so its not completely weeding out like optimized builds that aim to only use small amounts of damage

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idk i think those are interesting just because you have to manage a permanently low health bar and also limiting cps

hazy sky
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we don't really like them bc they feel too free
though i do agree it's cool how ppl manage to balance on the edge
ig the scaling'll help with "too free" feel either way

atomic glacier
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i think like maximum cps macro abuse with low cost and maximizing bpact damage is not cool but if you get a chance you should try to see how evilscientis11 plays fallen

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its like genuinely cool to watch