guild_community

[deep shale]

I think attacking shouldn’t give you a reward

But ill gladly put a 1stx bounty on avo

[odd junco]

this guy makes NO sense

[potent ibex]

I think guilds should just fight for glory and trying to be the king of the hill, defending their legacy and honor and her majesty once you make it to the top

[deep shale]

Fr

[obtuse phoenix]

what do you consider as attack to get le from it

snaking or taking hq

[odd junco]

i think it should be based on territory info

[spare lark]

https://tenor.com/view/patrick-walking-away-patrick-leaving-patrick-not-caring-patrick-dgaf-patrick-star-gif-18088871825132921421

[obtuse phoenix]

by info you mean treasury or defense

[odd junco]

stats, treasury, tower upgrades

[obtuse phoenix]

i'd you could have a balance between def and treasury

not only stats

[acoustic karma]

what legacy there has in most of the guilds

ico has thenelston youtube

[odd junco]

also maybe an internal amount of times the territory has been taken within a period of time

[acoustic karma]

seq had wackolo

😭

[odd junco]

that way you can't just snake 10 territories and grind

[obtuse phoenix]

that would be cool

[odd junco]

if wynn had 50,000 developers and i was like "Director of Guilds" i would cook

[potent ibex]

Guild level had some prestige factor back then, and territories were your only real bet at substantial leveling. So guilds fought for those xp boosts. Now you can earn guild xp in a million better ways than warring

[nimble mantle]

we have silex

[odd junco]

guild level doesnt matter anymore since again its a timesink for pretty much nothing

[potent ibex]

Yep

[nimble mantle]

guild level is worthless

taq having lvl 120 was really cool

[obtuse phoenix]

true

[nimble mantle]

now every raiding guild will have that sooner or late'

r

[odd junco]

i suggested a prestige system where you could prestige your guild and get upgrades (including guild housing 🔥)

[acoustic karma]

YOU HAVE HLICKY BROTHER

[potent ibex]

The dynamics shifted and so the goals shifted

[nimble mantle]

dinner

[odd junco]

like can you imagine prestiging your guild and getting to choose between a few different options of where to spend prestige points

[obtuse phoenix]

guild ability tree?

[odd junco]

yeah along those lines

[potent ibex]

Remember the good ol’ days making a guild with your buddies to rise to the top and rise in power, competing with the big names and putting your guild on the map to establish yourself as a household name? Grow your guild, get stronger, live the guild dream!

The guild dream is dead.

Now it’s like “hey let’s get some prof xp boosts!”

[odd junco]

the guild dream is dead because there's no community features for guilds

someone can join your guild and pretty much play as if they're not in a guild

[nimble mantle]

is ice 90

[frail niche]

types like he is

[potent ibex]

I get on a nostalgic high okay? Let me bask in the reminiscence of it all!

[odd junco]

dont worry guilds are known for hopium overdoses

[potent ibex]

What if we make a new alliance? Why not

Don’t worry, not a war alliance. A community alliance.

Make our own guild features

[odd junco]

not happening ❌

[nimble mantle]

Ngl, wynn has very different playerbase and it'd be cringe but I'd love to see some community/rp stuff for guilds even if it would be small

[nimble mantle]

Become a leader of ano and then plan that

[odd junco]

donbass i just think thats because DUDE has like 3 alts online that afk

[obtuse phoenix]

which kinda of "ability" would you be able to unlock

[nimble mantle]

What

???

[odd junco]

[acoustic karma]

hlicky rat dinner

[nimble mantle]

Yea

It's the light stuff

[potent ibex]

Back then before the feature existed and was even “codified”, the forum guilds made a community with all sorts of fun. They didn’t need an ingame mechanic to rule their gameplay.

The Emperium of Wynn was an alliance when wars were broken for two years that did just that. Combined guilds, created internal hierarchy, hosted events, ect.

[odd junco]

yeah except half of the guild community hates each other

these guilds all hate each other

genuinely

[potent ibex]

Really?

[nimble mantle]

Yes

[potent ibex]

Why?? That’s so sad

[odd junco]

because most guild leaders are soulless husks

[nimble mantle]

Every guild has like 1-2 allies and hates every other guild

[odd junco]

i guarantee SEQ leadership talks shit about every other guild

[nimble mantle]

ngl i want to see what's happening in their chats

[obtuse phoenix]

Julinho is my goat

[potent ibex]

Even the “enemy” guilds back then I had appreciation for. For the game itself to function and thrive you need an enemy. They made it fun and I’m thankful they shared that experience with me

[eager gull]

Can we all attack seq next season 🥰

[obtuse phoenix]

can we all buy coins on SEQ next season

[eager gull]

GsW swamp?!?

[nimble mantle]

I like raidkeeper the keeper of raids

[odd junco]

oculism

how many guild banners are there

[tired wing]

some number

[eager gull]

I dont know anyone from seq

[acoustic karma]

oculism in 2025 i want you to make a guild banner with the hard n word

[eager gull]

But in hoc i wasnt allowed to attack them

Even tho they sniped us randomly 😭

[tired wing]

oh yeah moco here's the new corrupted one
i couldnt get the original to look decent so i just decided to remake it

its animated but im too lazy to take a video

this is what got added yesterday lol

[acoustic karma]

u the GOAT

the GOAT

this looks SICK

[tired wing]

i had to make someone in avicia show me it on main cuz no one who regularly uses the banner held a territory lmao

[potent ibex]

I do agree with ye tho. I think 24/7 warring incentivized guilds to grow and push the boundaries, to strive to become even better than they already were in an ever competitive environment. Competition drives growth. It’s true. Stagnation gives comfort.

[acoustic karma]

lmao

[odd junco]

no money drives growth

[potent ibex]

You mean it wasn’t caused with the innate need to expand the borders of her majesty’s kingdom?

[odd junco]

ofc guilds have honour

you do realise that armies irl are paid right

[potent ibex]

I’m not against money. I like that we can hand out stacks to our warrers to compensate them for their efforts every season. It’s nice.

[potent ibex]

Although i do feel guilds could care less about it now

[acoustic karma]

they dont

[cunning blaze]

people get paid to war?

[acoustic karma]

used to

[tired wing]

the honorable act of posting my address in 2018

[acoustic karma]

now em seeking is dead

there is no more war payments

[odd junco]

some guilds*

they into that shit ig

[cunning blaze]

ik bloop got paid some stx from ano

[tired wing]

its fine i dont live there anymore

[acoustic karma]

ziggy got some from dude

[cunning blaze]

but i haven't seen mention of it

in other guilds

[potent ibex]

We pay our warrers and will continue to do so. Despite dead emerald seeking, we will continue to pay out stimulus checks for the foreseeable future in hope things return to normalcy.

[cunning blaze]

guild levelling (as a competition) is dead mostly because ever since guild raiding was introduced there is no way people can beat avo or taq in xp, other than being more active in graids

[wide shadow]

church is cooked also

[tired wing]

guild community needs more evil criminals

[cunning blaze]

we as in which guild (never met ya)

[wide shadow]

dogshit rates now

[wide shadow]

i agree

[potent ibex]

graid is repetitive. So was warring, but it was the political climate and organized raids that made it interesting.

[tired wing]

we need another tntdestroyd to go on house arrest for drug dealing and waste a prison phone call to tell a guild member he cant make it to the guild vote

[cunning blaze]

guys im sure we can revive warring if we add aspect seek

[odd junco]

gnostism is dead 😔

[potent ibex]

NO NO

[grizzled thistle]

hi prontosaurus

[wide shadow]

hello

[cunning blaze]

(guild related suggestion, denied)

[potent ibex]

I need Cath to come play again and play a new villain arch.

[odd junco]

@vale lake at the end of the chainshot can we get a slight boost

[potent ibex]

“If everyone is gonna make me out to be the villain anyways might as well play one”

Legendary

[odd junco]

[frail niche]

good morning ponto

[nimble mantle]

Why do tou speak so weird

[potent ibex]

In the end, I love and pray for you all. I wish you the best going forward and may this community thrive and continue to see change forward. The time of the elves is over.

[tired wing]

@toxic berry

[odd junco]

one thing i do not like from pre-1.20 is ego-tripping gls

[cunning blaze]

if everyone is gonna make me out to be a t*quer might as well play one"

[potent ibex]

I was an avid guild roleplayer. Treaties and official war declarations were my language.

[nimble mantle]

Yea but why do you speak so officially here

I'm just curious

[tired wing]

because its funny

[cunning blaze]

is funny

[odd junco]

i believe everyone should be treated equal regardless of whether you're some gl who thinks you're high and mighty compared to others

[nimble mantle]

Im sure he doesn't do that cuz it's funny

[potent ibex]

Respect was earned for some. Where I’m from everyone is born with it tho ❤️

[tired wing]

gonna commit multiple felonies tonight with 300 dollars worth of fireworks

[potent ibex]

Pardon me good sire, but I must inform you otherwise.

[cunning blaze]

i love #guild_community , its so silly

[grizzled thistle]

doggc should be treated the same way as everyone else?

[tired wing]

whimsicality

[grizzled thistle]

😔

[odd junco]

we make exceptions

[nimble mantle]

Erm doomdeath

Doggc is a chief

[grizzled thistle]

I know

[cunning blaze]

i feel like guild leadership is mostly based on chiefs

[dawn glade]

🤝

[vale lake]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1134894107307802795/1211648198402248726/aeae.gif

[nimble mantle]

Depends on the guild

[grizzled thistle]

Though Doggc is kinda the leader rn, isn't he?

[cunning blaze]

something like etkw maybe not

[odd junco]

but i did mean that people shouldn't just mindlessly follow people because muh rp

believe it or not there are shitty people as gls

[nimble mantle]

Hlickyalf has the right for the final decision in DUDE and always had

[odd junco]

elangche moment

[nimble mantle]

Idk i don't like democracy

[potent ibex]

Even though all alliances ran by a “democracy” they were always backed by the leaders of the elite veteran guilds who really pulled the strings behind everything. And if things didn’t go their way, they would just leave and create a new alliance. Politics was all about good graces and having a bigger sword to back your talk up.

[tired wing]

whimsicality 40,000 follower twitch doxxing incident

[cunning blaze]

even if a gl steps down to be a chief i feel like they still are the voice of the guild

[nimble mantle]

Yuh

[odd junco]

idk what you're referring to so

or

[grizzled thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/drake-notebook-gif-20708336

[potent ibex]

Bro what???

That’s me. I’m definitely not the voice of the guild lol

Cal is great leader!

[odd junco]

you would not believe the type of shit people let others get away with because "they're my friend!!!"

[cunning blaze]

idk which guild are you from

[odd junco]

@trim bough

[cunning blaze]

its based on which guild and its history

[odd junco]

ANO

[cunning blaze]

i only know like, 1 chief at ano halp

[potent ibex]

See you don’t even know who I am which proves my point!

[nimble mantle]

Because you didn't play like since 1.20

[grizzled thistle]

gazmog 😔

[nimble mantle]

Ofc after 2-3 years it'll be that way

[potent ibex]

Valid

[dawn glade]

🔥🔥

[odd junco]

elangche + others i cant say

i love when people use their mod friends to silence their critics!

[cunning blaze]

i only know chiefs that are active here or in my guild smh

[grizzled thistle]

what did elangche do? I only got into the guild community in august so idk

[odd junco]

diddy

[grizzled thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/staring-meme-bald-guy-staring-gif-16652283412331227052

[odd junco]

people tried to hide it under the rug

[potent ibex]

2021 warring be like:

one territory gets taken

@ everyone We are under siege!!!

[tired wing]

what didnt elangche do

[odd junco]

but thankfully he got actual blowback and got pretty much excommunicated from community

[nimble mantle]

Erm 2021 was after 1.20

[cunning blaze]

2021 warrers would not survive 1 day against a 1 man guild with a solo build

[odd junco]

then we got him known as a diddy partier in the hsb community too

[potent ibex]

Err nvm sorry I’m so out of the loop hehe

[tired wing]

i have literally never heard elangche's name be mentioned in anything other than a negative context

[nimble mantle]

Ngl prime eden could take the entire map

[potent ibex]

I have only heard ur name mentioned in a positive context

[dawn glade]

My first time hearing about elangche was being told about that incident

[potent ibex]

EDN did get strong at one point yeah, very strong

[odd junco]

yeah i worked with viridian to get him banned

[nimble mantle]

What incident? I only know him from leaving TNL

lol

[frail niche]

wynncraft pedophile tierlist everyone

whos your fav

[grizzled thistle]

wait actual diddy stuff, or only on discord

[dawn glade]

Oculism when dernic banner redo..

[cunning blaze]

shadow rate your trip

[grizzled thistle]

😰

[dawn glade]

It's lacking atm..

[tired wing]

ill fix it soon calm down ladies

[odd junco]

discord diddy

disiddy

[dawn glade]

Solid 7/10 id say

Didn't have enough clear skies to see the stars

[dawn glade]

🥺 thanks

[nimble mantle]

I mean after 1.20

[potent ibex]

I know

[cunning blaze]

i always like to look at the stars, then see pollution

[dawn glade]

I like stargazing when I can

[grizzled thistle]

sounds a lot like what was going on in the Nyaa guild discord...

[nimble mantle]

What did he do

[odd junco]

what do you think dawg

[cunning blaze]

do you know who diddy was donbass?

[nimble mantle]

Erm yes

[cunning blaze]

well that but discord

[nimble mantle]

TNL baby oil party?

[potent ibex]

You know back then gls were worried that new territories being added would lower competition and with more room for everyone guilds would be more complacent or could fit in more guilds to already powerful alliances?

Just eliminate territories and then things will have to be more competitive. Supply and demand. Territory map used to only be Wynn province (not saying to do that obviously)

[cunning blaze]

i feel like territories should have a practical use rather than be war related

i like the idea of territory buffs a lot

[potent shale]

Gathering xp

[nimble mantle]

Maybe

[charred owl]

Russia

[nimble mantle]

I mean in games ermm

[grizzled thistle]

there's not much to do in the overworld unless you have something like annie territory

so not sure if territory buffs would do much

[cunning blaze]

territories should first fill out the map, some gaps are distrubing to say the least, and secondly add the probablyop +x% loot from content in this area (or simply lb)

[potent ibex]

Bring back nether PvP and have guilds fight there. King of the hill, 24/7 coverage

Way more fun

Nether PvP was best era

[nimble mantle]

ngl i like the idea of real pvp more than hitting the towers, also the bigger guilds will still have the advantage

[potent ibex]

I miss the old lobby mage game Wynncraft had too

[thorny bluff]

What's good

[cunning blaze]

void territories not existing just because builders didn't build the void next to ahmsord

[thorny bluff]

Who ping

[cunning blaze]

someone asked you how many times does seq gets their territories taken daily

[nimble mantle]

I just started liking the session based gameplay after playing on one server that @thorny bluff played on

It's so much easier to have fun and pull people to war

Rather than having them on constant alarm 24/7

[potent ibex]

What if nether PvP was revived for guilds? And it was capture the flag that had huge boosts?

[grizzled thistle]

the chat in the proximity of the pvp location would be fire

[cunning blaze]

sadly any guild suggestion is simply denied, well, with the exception of the guild logs being updated (god zeer0)

[thorny bluff]

No? LOL

[odd junco]

I LOVE GATEKEEPING 😍

[potent ibex]

I once played a game where teams could take territories but they also got to choose an 8 hour window when they could be attacked (that way they could consolidate on that time frame). If another team wanted to challenge the flag/claim and not be awake all night.) it would start a 30 minute timer. Team players would have to meet at the spot and assemble and they would fight to the death, the last team remaining either defending the flag or losing it to the victor

Imagine if guild territories were PvP based like this?

[odd junco]

lmfao

yall had a mapstate as stale as us

you just didnt want to admit it and attacked each other because there was no incentive not to

[potent ibex]

This map state is beyond stale. It’s moldy.

[odd junco]

yeah just give attackers a reason to attack (money) and it will likely be better

[potent ibex]

I like money and agree

[nimble mantle]

On a server i play (it's based on fights/nations though, so ofc it'd have more complicated mechanics) there are two types of fights, one for forts that nations have and they can only happen every weekend, and the second is fights for regions that happen every day on a specific date

[odd junco]

like there's a fairly good reason that guilds like ETKW bean RATC can just pop into existance and do fairly well on map

[potent ibex]

Actually fighting with other players would be epic

[cunning blaze]

if treasuries gave emeralds to attackers instantly...

[potent ibex]

What if we just brought back nether PvP and just had a guild leaderboard based on it? Or season boosts depending on ranking????

With nether PvP being a GUILD FEATURE

[cunning blaze]

so big guilds would ahve a reason to crossmap, and other guilds would have a reason to attack

[nimble mantle]

Meh if it was around specific period of time then yea

24/7 would be weird if it gave rating

[potent ibex]

People do guild raids 24/7 and it has a leaderboard 🤷‍♂️

[nimble mantle]

Graids are pve tho

[thorny bluff]

Maybe, sometimes we go a few days without any and then everyone decides they want to take random territories

[cunning blaze]

i feel like a pvp mode would be something that would give extra sp generation from territories so you would not only try to win the pvp event, but also hold a territory afterwards

[potent ibex]

What if for fun you can do a PvP match between guilds, each chooses 5 champions.

[cunning blaze]

idk about the general idea of adding guild pvp

[nimble mantle]

Wynn lacks pvp overall ngl

[potent ibex]

It’s like hunted mode but a guild feature.

[nimble mantle]

It would be cool

[thorny bluff]

Wouldn't happen, half the community doesn't want guild features like that 'Why lock it behind guilds?'

[cunning blaze]

i wish for non guild related mm 1v1 first before adding rewarda or similar

[potent ibex]

People outside of guilds would join them bc they want to participate in the feature

[nimble mantle]

Anything related to guild won't happen lol

[potent ibex]

Nether PvP has long been requested over the years

[nimble mantle]

^ same happened with graids

[potent ibex]

Imagine if it was an incentive to guilds?

[tropic plaza]

as seen from the addition of guild raids, they just complain instead

[potent ibex]

There would be PvP guilds

[thorny bluff]

Yep^

The complain

They*

[potent ibex]

Guild community are the best complainers on Wynn, it’s what we are known for

We are never pleased, never satisfied

[thorny bluff]

It's not even guild community.

[potent ibex]

We say the devs don’t know whatw we want but honestly we don’t even know most of the time lol

[tropic plaza]

we are talking about the rest of the community in this case actually

[cunning blaze]

"they" as in the normal people

[thorny bluff]

It's the vocal minority of wynncorders who despise guilds

[potent ibex]

Oh

[nimble mantle]

Cry is free

[potent ibex]

Well to be fair I don’t know anything about graids

Never did one

[thorny bluff]

It's the CT members who don't want to touch anything guild related because they've had a few bad experiences with #guild_community

Yep

[nimble mantle]

XD

[cunning blaze]

harder raids that give more rewards. bosses have new mechanics too

[thorny bluff]

There are CT members who are still on the team who have outright said they despise guilds

[cunning blaze]

thats half the part

[potent ibex]

Guild community has been hated on by outsiders for years who vowed never to join guilds but came flocking as soon as the word “guild tome” was mentioned. Naturally they hate seeing things locked behind guilds.

[cunning blaze]

the other half is that ct dont care about guilds stuff because they see it as boring

[thorny bluff]

Looking for a guild so I can get event crates!

[nimble mantle]

Ngl if CTs can do a whole ass region themselves they can tweak guilds too

[tender ginkgo]

thats a stupid argument

[potent ibex]

Looking for a guild for profession boosts!

[empty pecan]

proff..

[cunning blaze]

ik, yet they keep using it

[thorny bluff]

Yes it is, yet people still complained about guild raids

[potent ibex]

Let me join ur guild for 10 days so I can level my profs!

😂

[nimble mantle]

Prof be like

[cunning blaze]

prof got that covered

[tender ginkgo]

the ct has made changes that arent popular at all with the community

[odd junco]

ct members cant do anything because its all developer coded not using the new tools

[dawn glade]

Sure 😁

[nimble mantle]

They should make cmt CT

[odd junco]

is this the new going to brazil

[tender ginkgo]

i dont see why they wouldnt (eventually) update guilds

[dawn glade]

Guild stuff is mostly dev sided yeah

[cunning blaze]

CMT - M = CT, easy

[potent shale]

@tender ginkgo hello

[thorny bluff]

No throwing shade at linnyflower please

[odd junco]

i think if anything, an update should focus around making guild content able to be worked on by cts

[red sigil]

riddle me that liberals

[potent ibex]

Back when PROF Haven was given all of SE on the basis they let guilds neutral to them send their players there for a vacation to grind profs and benefit for a bit

[nimble mantle]

There are no developers in outer void credits tho, ofc they helped but still

[tender ginkgo]

hey

[nimble mantle]

It's still that way

Sir look on map once a month

[potent ibex]

It’s off season

[dawn glade]

There's like a few things that aren't but it's not enough for a "rework" per se

[potent ibex]

How was I suppose to know

[cunning blaze]

i can show you past screenshots of map

[potent shale]

Do you still play wynn

[dawn glade]

Yeah we still do that :p

[odd junco]

yeah because it was made using new wynn tools

[nimble mantle]

(I'm actively yapping against that)

[odd junco]

@vale lake explained it in vc

[thorny bluff]

Anyways I'm going to go back read the like 4 hours of messages I missed

[dawn glade]

😔

[potent ibex]

I play Wynncraft to hop on our beautiful guild island now and then

[cunning blaze]

map

[potent ibex]

Once a week

[odd junco]

very minimal dev interaction is required because it uses wynnscript / other tools i dont really know about

[nimble mantle]

I don't have alts to snake you sadly

All used

[odd junco]

pretty sure guild towers are made programmatically (not with wynnscript) would have to ask zeer

[cunning blaze]

#guild_community message and #guild_community message and #guild_community message for example @potent ibex

[vale lake]

outer void is made w script, guild shit isnt

[odd junco]

^^^

[cunning blaze]

can't bother making them images

[vale lake]

we still needed dev help for it to get some new menu functions though

like now we can tell between left and right click in a menu

like is used in scav sell menu

[cunning blaze]

the green checkmarks part?

[vale lake]

no

[potent ibex]

Do you guys want to have a party at ANO island? We can roleplay 🥺

[cunning blaze]

oh

[stuck meteor]

yo hold up

this is interesting, where did this conv started?

[odd junco]

years ago

[nimble mantle]

iw ill touch you

[cunning blaze]

uhm, 3 hours ago

[stuck meteor]

FRICK

[nimble mantle]

(roleplay)

[charred owl]

🤤

[stuck meteor]

i'll catch up

[potent ibex]

When I posted my beautiful thread

[obtuse phoenix]

[potent ibex]

#guild_community message

@stuck meteor

[cunning blaze]

shit, quicker than me

[grizzled thistle]

Is that the island that stephen hawking visited?

[cunning blaze]

no, thats gateway island

[nimble mantle]

hawk tuah

[cunning blaze]

this #guild_community so regarded 💔

[grizzled thistle]

hawk tuah meme is NOT massive. Please don't let it survive the next year 🙏

Never should've been a meme in the first place

[potent ibex]

It’s funny bc back then alliances made territory claim maps based on territory xp production and everyone would be in the income bracket others thought they deserved…

Idek what the metric would be these days lol

[cunning blaze]

territory claims are mostly based around the res production

so they are defendable

[potent ibex]

So the metric is just what you need to sustain the territory in the first place?

Interesting

[cunning blaze]

yeah, you can also go ffa but thats not ideal since ffa is at most 10 territories

and doesn't have good production

[potent ibex]

It’s also hard to own territories away from ur claim

FFA is a joke

[cunning blaze]

i can say that the only territory thats not based on res prod is prof

because of the gxp thing

[stuck meteor]

respectfully shut the fuck up

[odd junco]

ideally guilds claims shouldn't be a thing

[cunning blaze]

if i could balance territories i would murder all hq spots

[odd junco]

the map should look like blobs of territories, not sharply defined boundaries

[cunning blaze]

and make ffa's more holdable, then wait for the guilds to squirm in and find "meta spots"

then do it again

the map has been the same for years

[potent ibex]

The map looks more organized now than when mega alliances were formally a thing lol

[charred owl]

Have you even played for a year what

[cunning blaze]

no, but that is a complaint from other people ik

[obtuse phoenix]

we all here should revive the mega alliance and split the map between 15 guilds again

[potent ibex]

Funny the map is 1000 times more stable than when mega alliances controlled the map

[obtuse phoenix]

this would be so cool

[charred owl]

Map doesn’t look the same when I started playing

less guilds

[potent ibex]

The fact is, mega alliances create such oppressive circumstances that people rise up and plot from the outside and within

[odd junco]

the start of 1.20 had peak braindead claims

[stuck meteor]

already read that

[potent ibex]

I loved feeling like I was fighting tyranny!

[stuck meteor]

ko, i catched up

[odd junco]

Mag used to hold east ocean + corkus

[stuck meteor]

keep talking now please, i'll go grab something

[odd junco]

while another guild held west ocean

[cunning blaze]

meant like, actual territory additions not claims or guilds

[potent ibex]

SHOO

[empty pecan]

i swear the conversations on how guilds can be reworked has been had 20 times already

[cunning blaze]

mag and bean should own corkus ocean

[odd junco]

honestly i feel like there should be balancing done to claims

i think nerfing megaclaims would be nice

[potent ibex]

The difference is, I didn’t say it then ☺️

[cunning blaze]

because we are offseason, we don't have much to do except graid (eugh) and uh, dumpsterdiving void

[empty pecan]

call me a crazy man, what if a territories resources were random every season

[cunning blaze]

thats crazy man

[odd junco]

🤨

possibly decent idea

[empty pecan]

besides cities

but like

[cunning blaze]

what about double res?

[potent ibex]

Decent idea but they don’t wanna do all that rebalancing work I’m certain

[empty pecan]

double res let that be random

[cunning blaze]

what if we are stuck 1 season with 3 op claim spots

[empty pecan]

everything except double emeralds in cities

[obtuse phoenix]

this would be peak

i don't like megaclaims

[odd junco]

llevswamp would be top nerf

[potent ibex]

I like mega claims, if one guild owned everything everyone would be forced to compete with them

[obtuse phoenix]

kander thanos as well

[potent ibex]

Think about it. Mega claims limit land which create more demand than supply

[stuck meteor]

well considering the idea to balance the res distribution in each area, in order to have some tributes between allied guild got fucked after mega guild became meta, having random res doesn't sound so bad, altho it would be chaotic and unfair in some cases

[cunning blaze]

there is no reason to war, why would you compete

[odd junco]

yeah except usually its owned by SEQ who has like 40 people online to defend 🙏

[potent ibex]

If there is room for everyone on the map = also no war

Survival of the fittest where guilds try to maximize their amount of territories

[obtuse phoenix]

if there is room for everyone on the map = more hqs to snipe!

[potent ibex]

The problem is, no one is doing that

[cunning blaze]

if everyone is on map, people would be incentivized to get more territories

[potent ibex]

No incentive too

[cunning blaze]

from their neighbours

[potent ibex]

Create oppressive conditions and players will naturally ensure their own survival

Simple

The state of the game has become too comfortable. Too easy.

[stuck meteor]

nobody aside from those 10 guilds that compete for sr cares

[potent ibex]

Everyone can sing cumbaya and be happy

That’s the problem

[stuck meteor]

and it's usually just seq and ico competiting

and seq usually wins

because graid

[cunning blaze]

also ico gets wiped more often

[stuck meteor]

true true

[cunning blaze]

from what i saw

[nimble mantle]

Rymek/Desert claim

[stuck meteor]

ico has to actually fight taq to hold, once in a while

[empty pecan]

yeah they get wiped like every 4 days or sum

[nimble mantle]

my beloved

[cunning blaze]

kander claim is contested, swampllevi doesn't

[obtuse phoenix]

swamp is cancerous to attack

because aura inconsistencies

[empty pecan]

i think if any territory gets to 14 days, thats a bad sign

[obtuse phoenix]

ass tower

everything in swamp is bad

[ionic fjord]

swamp could be a claim alone

[stuck meteor]

or extremly good diplomacy

[ionic fjord]

buy brazucoins

[cunning blaze]

what if we made swamp + llevi hard to hold, so you have to stick with one or the other

[obtuse phoenix]

swamp used to be split like this?

i don't remember

[stuck meteor]

you see to do that you need guilds to war them

nobody wants to war just to be wiped at 4 am

[charred owl]

Something like that

[stuck meteor]

and you definitly won't be breaking seq any time soon

[frail niche]

depended on season the exact split

[stuck meteor]

double ore goes to swamp

but ye

[ionic fjord]

e muito grande, eu nao entendo por que eles estao juntos

[obtuse phoenix]

uh

[ionic fjord]

o terrs

[obtuse phoenix]

early 2.0

gonna find a ss

1s

[stuck meteor]

then again depend who was owning swamp and llevi

[nimble mantle]

So real

[frail niche]

You would buff or nerf claims based on what guild had them

and how they got voted on in claim votes

[obtuse phoenix]

a

found an screenshot

ignore the title of the video

[solemn river]

where have you been last season lmao

[cunning blaze]

i feel like during off season some changes to map should happen, to keep it fresh

[cunning blaze]

i was in pxm

so around molten or thanos

[empty pecan]

more than 4 guilds in gavel? not possible

[stuck meteor]

think it from the perspective of a random guild, not a small friend group that is making a guild, but one of those obscure guild that have 50ish members and try to war.
they spawn on a claim, take 2, maybe 3 terr, start defending, then get hq sniped.
try again, same result.

and even if they get someone that teach them how to war, you either snake for 12 hours, like we used to do in bfs, OR you hq snipe them, which by itself require a lot of effort for a guild that doens't know how to do it, doens't have the mean to do it, and doens't have the manpower to continue holding after they have done it

[cunning blaze]

it would be crazy, but what if you teamed up with another guild to help with the snipe

[ionic fjord]

bfs😹

[stuck meteor]

ye we hold a ffa all season

[frail niche]

if you take an hq and 2 conns most guilds wont resnipe that

[stuck meteor]

if we get attacked or not it doens't matter

[frail niche]

you have to have a battleplan when warring...

[cunning blaze]

i feel like rol is half ffa half a claim, i don't see people actually ffa there, just bfs

[stuck meteor]

they won't resnipe for what? 1 hour?
until your member logs off?

best scenario I seen last season was like 2 days after taq took over ico claim

but in our example of fighting seq

[empty pecan]

god kill me before i ffa in rol

[stuck meteor]

@thorny bluff how many second before your guild would resnipe?

[empty pecan]

seq will just take everything but hq

every hour

[frail niche]

1 hour for you to spread out and easily take over the claim

[ionic fjord]

fub would need an active player for that

[cunning blaze]

rol is best claim because you have to do rol 5 to unlock it

so no one can war there

[empty pecan]

ME!!!

[odd junco]

https://tenor.com/view/was-gif-25190641

[cunning blaze]

ping do you even war

[ionic fjord]

hoyl yap

[grizzled thistle]

most of active players are US so defending during EU times is pretty hard when you have like 2 people online

[frail niche]

is this true @subtle valve

[thorny bluff]

Actually I made it all the fuck UP!

The voices

[stuck meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/armstrong-made-it-up-gif-25653819

[ionic fjord]

do I need to be a diddy follower to join seq

[frail niche]

where was the part where your chiefs were proudly messaging people saying they have access to supposedly private discords

[thorny bluff]

We're actually an competitive Outer Void guild

[stuck meteor]

don't tell me there is competition in that thing now

[thorny bluff]

Make territories in the void

[stuck meteor]

new claim

[thorny bluff]

When the update dropped every single raid party stopped and descended on the void

[solemn river]

I thought everyone completed this update yesterday and we all moved back to raids??

[thorny bluff]

Yep

[stuck meteor]

and connect the sky void to the se ( lore fans will get mad )

[grizzled thistle]

wynncraft lore fans?

[icy flame]

I like bob

[grizzled thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-to-a-wall-gif-9702424950693960694

[stuck meteor]

based

[frail niche]

erm its literally called void valley

it only makes sense

[primal walrus]

destroyed

[cunning blaze]

if we do get void territories, how will they connect to wynncraft map?

[stuck meteor]

through amhsord

personal sky ffa

[cunning blaze]

don't make it like rol where there is only 1 connection augh

[molten mountain]

No, this will be integral part of sky claim

[cunning blaze]

i hate those

[stuck meteor]

it's the only way

[molten mountain]

So rodo will be officially canyon part 🔥

[eager gull]

There’s another near sky castle

[stuck meteor]

fr?

[eager gull]

For the lr challenge

[cunning blaze]

sky castle being useful??? nice

[eager gull]

Could make it connect to void

[stuck meteor]

oh ye but like, the game doens't count lootrun, like path to light's secret (the terr connected to rol) doens't connect it to nol too, despite the teleport that is there

like the "main" way to the void is through amhsord

[eager gull]

Yee

[cunning blaze]

kandon beda connects to the void when (there are cracks at the feet of the collosus)

[odd junco]

@thorny bluff why delete the yap

[stuck meteor]

CMT ON THE HUNT

NOTHING IS GETTING PAST HIM

[thorny bluff]

It'd just be a buff to sky claim tbh

More externals

6 con HQ

[odd junco]

also that is so funny acting like you didnt just absorb 75% of NFR which by default made you an alliance guild lul

[cunning blaze]

sky claim feels so shitty to hold

[stuck meteor]

ok?

[odd junco]

SEQ didnt know how to eco the offseason that NFR died

[stuck meteor]

i'd just be happy of a change in the map

they buffing sky? GREAT

perphas they will buff somewhere else next time

[potent ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/highschoolmusical-statusquo-dancing-gif-5794533

[odd junco]

then in that season half of NFR joins SEQ because the owner nosedives the guild into the ground and it becomes alliance guild

[cunning blaze]

a sky 6 conn would be fair because its shit ass to hold and is 1 city

[odd junco]

truly hard work paying off 💪😤

[potent ibex]

Guilds post 1.20 after claiming territories 💀

[odd junco]

claiming SEQ was at any point a "small community guild" at any point before the season/offseason that NFR died is a complete joke

it was a no name guild that only became #1 because the troglodytes who ran NFR became the troglodytes who ran SEQ

[cunning blaze]

but also territories gatekept by 1 quest is the same issue with rol

[stuck meteor]

it is what it is

[cunning blaze]

yeah i mean, do your quests ig

[stuck meteor]

it's not locked behind 40 minutes of dialogue at least

[cunning blaze]

void wouldn't be that unfair because you also unlock it for outervoid and is 1 quest

[potent ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/gandalf-lotr-last-great-battle-return-of-the-king-gif-13439728

https://tenor.com/view/ironfoot-ring-pig-swine-charge-gif-22227628

[odd junco]

@thorny bluff hi question !

[potent ibex]

Guilds pre-1.20

[cunning blaze]

if ice's guild want to bring back rp into guild wars they should check out the toxicity in warring

[potent ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/so-itbegins-lord-of-the-rings-helms-deep-war-gif-3576273

[stuck meteor]

who ano?

please

[cunning blaze]

not ano

[stuck meteor]

they are the switzerland of wynncraft

[thorny bluff]

What's up?

[stuck meteor]

last week I asked them to lower tax in lf, since we wanted to ffa in canyon

[potent ibex]

Is warring toxic now? Sorry I’m out of the loop

[stuck meteor]

they lowered 1 terr to 50

[stuck meteor]

yes

[cunning blaze]

eys

[potent ibex]

How so, why??

[stuck meteor]

ask geb

[potent ibex]

There isn’t even warring going on tho

For it to breed tension?

[stuck meteor]

i'm sure he will be more than happy to explain it to you

[potent ibex]

Or? Am I wrong

[cunning blaze]

there was

[odd junco]

did mona edate you purely just so she could use you as a stepping stone to get nfr leader?

[cunning blaze]

at least from my side while i was in another guild

there is always toxicity

[thorny bluff]

She would've got it without me, I was a nobody from an FFA guild lol

[potent ibex]

Well we in ANO love everyone bc everyone hangs out at our guild island ❤️

[obtuse phoenix]

off season

[thorny bluff]

I played no part in her getting guild leader to my knowledge

[odd junco]

didnt you elect a new leader for the guild

[thorny bluff]

Nope

[potent ibex]

So your son didn’t get millions of dollars from foreign entities?

[odd junco]

someone told me NFR voted on it

or at least voted on her becoming chief

[thorny bluff]

Well if they did I can't see it in the archives I have of the server

They voted on her getting chief

[stuck meteor]

@potent ibex from my perspective wars rn works like this:

let's take the defensive side, since you are in a guild that is owning a guild:

you either fight a guild for -insert here hours- because they can't hq snipe you and thus they snake you

or

they take your hq in less than 12 mintues and you are now the attacker

in the first scenario you have to fight for -insert here hours-, even if you don't feel like it

in the the 2nd scenario you will have to fight shortly, doing one of the hardest content in wynncraft

[thorny bluff]

I believe her getting leader happened a while after and was mainly her convincing SpeedyA

Don't think there was a vote

[odd junco]

was that before or after you edated her

[stuck meteor]

in both case, you probably don't want to do it, repeat this for X time, and without someone telling you to not get mad, and people will start insulting the attacker

= toxicity

[thorny bluff]

The vote was after

[potent ibex]

But is it just “ugh so and so is so annoying” or is it a literal hate for the entire institution?

[thorny bluff]

If there was one

Her getting leader was like what

Mid January

[stuck meteor]

that depends from guild to guild

I know ilq and imperial started calling bfs homophobic

[potent ibex]

Who is bfs

[thorny bluff]

Boyfriends Guild

[stuck meteor]

which is kinda ironic since like we are also the "boyfriend" guild, tho it's not 100% official

[odd junco]

imma be real she was and still is a social climber

[thorny bluff]

Yep 200%

[odd junco]

this isnt even meant to be a put down she used you like a stepping stone

[thorny bluff]

Dawg she was trying to move in with me 2 months in like no shit she definitely was

[potent ibex]

Dating to gain influence and an easier rise to prominence used to be common place in the guild scene. They would pull the classic Cleopatra LOL

[odd junco]

yeah because people in this community BIT­CHLESS

kurticus is my GOAT he is MARRIED and wars with his WIFE

[nimble mantle]

Real

[stuck meteor]

TELL ME I AM WRONG

[odd junco]

drops dms with her

idc if its edating garbage i just want to see the type of manipulation

[thorny bluff]

From her Skyblock guild

[odd junco]

because the second the corpse of NFR hit the floor she immediately went to TAq

[potent ibex]

Dang. Guild toxicity back then used to be like “they insulted, her majesty, the queen! Retribution at any cost!”

[glad adder]

REAL

[odd junco]

🤪 brainrot community

[thorny bluff]

She was sweet talking Gonner while NFR was still a thing

[glad adder]

Nobody insults HM Arianna Foxton and gets away with it

[thorny bluff]

Preparing her next step

[odd junco]

me when i mindlessly defend my gl (they cannot be wrong in any way shape or form)

[potent ibex]

You can say that but you would give anything to have that type of map volatility we had

[odd junco]

LOL show me

[frail niche]

she made up lies about 5hotguns when he left taq

[odd junco]

your map volatility was caused by people making artificial drama which then led to real drama

[frail niche]

and slandered him like crazy

[odd junco]

LMFAOOOOO

[potent ibex]

Dang I need to buy nitro just so I can use the Ari praise emote everywhere

[thorny bluff]

Never saw the texts just her mentioning in VC that she'd been talking to Gonner and TAq a lot

[potent ibex]

Was it not fun?

[odd junco]

when NFR was getting raided daily in COTL she accused a "Fox captain" of blackmailing her

[odd junco]

where did i say it wasnt fun

[thorny bluff]

There's also the part where she had all of NFRs guild funds and the community donated guild mythics and started selling them (allegedly)

[stuck meteor]

usually? no

[potent ibex]

Never, because it totally was

Agreed

[odd junco]

my point is they took it far too seriously pre-1.20 and rp was cringe

i dont care about your rp i just want to munch your territories and get rewarded for it 😋

[potent ibex]

Subjective

[frail niche]

i mean i dont wanna get into it too much

but she basically caused the collapse of taq by shmoozing up to a few people and then left before she could face any of the consequences

[cunning blaze]

i respect my chiefs more than gl tbh

[potent ibex]

Back when guilds had ceremonies and stuff was fun

[odd junco]

yeah im not saying "this is factually true" its my opinion dawg

[stuck meteor]

that was like, more than 4 years ago

[cunning blaze]

taq still has a meeting table, that we use for cache opening rn sob

[odd junco]

i just think the rp was cringe and acting like its a monarchy where "my gl hath done no wrongeth!!!" is brainrot

https://tenor.com/view/jose-mourinho-sweet-trouble-gif-26762341

[potent ibex]

There was a degree of “RP” just by affiliation if you participate in any alliance. That is involvement in guild politics. Unless you were just a random guild that attacked territories at random with zero knowledge of the actual political map, just a shooting cannon at random

[warm lintel]

with the party bomb

[thorny bluff]

Respectfully going to decline this

[odd junco]

"come to detlas lets kiss"

can we kiss under the tower aura

🥺

[thorny bluff]

God no we weren't that bad

[odd junco]

❌

[odd junco]

guild politics =/= roleplaying

guild politics exists to this day

nobody rps

[grizzled thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/this-cant-be-real-fake-dog-real-dog-staring-gif-25327118

[nimble mantle]

Edaters must die

[odd junco]

and currently everyone hates each other but would rather feign neutrality rather than being outspoken about how stupid other guilds are

[thorny bluff]

Guild politics is Hlickyalf calling me f word stop alt warring me and me telling him to stop alt warring me

[stuck meteor]

i don't think tollerating the existance of your neighbour is defined as politics tho

[thorny bluff]

Cycle continues

[nimble mantle]

Your gf*

[thorny bluff]

Thanks DonbassBaka

[potent ibex]

Guild politics? When was the last time there was a coordinated raid on a guild, or a strategic power play amongst current powers? Just curious.

[nimble mantle]

No problem raidkeeper

[grizzled thistle]

everyone knows that every guild's war chat is filled with guild slander

[stuck meteor]

uh

[odd junco]

no its just high ranked

[thorny bluff]

2 seasons ago iirc

[stuck meteor]

2 years ago?

unless you count that attack on seq IAN tried

[thorny bluff]

Whenever AVO last warred SEQ and tried to get like 5 other guilds to help

[stuck meteor]

or wait that thing on ragni claim

[violet raptor]

Who wanna make alliance?

[obtuse phoenix]

there was an attack on TAq

[stuck meteor]

ye that thing IAN tried

[obtuse phoenix]

a few seasons ago iirc

[charred owl]

ragni split 🔥 🔥 🔥

[stuck meteor]

so fire

[charred owl]

bfs x hoc

[nimble mantle]

He means coordinated attack

Not guild wars

[glad adder]

Guild roleplay was never like this. The content outsiders consumed of our guilds was generally only curated public image like forum threads, random award ceremony videos, etc etc. which of course had maximum formality I can assure you that nobody inside of guilds like Fox actually acted or talked like this

[grizzled thistle]

the 3 small guilds snaking ico territory at the same time:

[potent ibex]

Upvote

[nimble mantle]

Me being online on blak yapping and on ico defending

[thorny bluff]

AVO + Subs, Aeq, SAKU, BFS vs SEQ was the last coordinated attack on a claim I remember with AVO taking swamp and SAKU taking Llevigar claim beginning of season from SEQ and then SEQ kind of just stomped it out after a while

[grizzled thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/spiderman-dancing-gif-24233159

[thorny bluff]

I can go take a better look and jog my memory

[nimble mantle]

DUDE lgbtq claim raid

[empty pecan]

fub and like 7 other small guilds attacked aeq like 5 months ago or sum

[nimble mantle]

Is the real coordinated attack

[stuck meteor]

pretty sure that was just for the meme

[grizzled thistle]

the what raid?

[charred owl]

i slept and they were still warring 🥶

[stuck meteor]

not with the intent of removing dude from the claim

[grizzled thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/this-cant-be-real-fake-dog-real-dog-staring-gif-25327118

[potent ibex]

I remember when elite mobs came out like snipers so three guilds secretly took over the entire map overnight and everyone woke up to them owning everything and they couldn’t even take back the territories because no one had a builds adjusted to snipers. THATS the type of power play shit I wanna see.

[stuck meteor]

impossible with current dynamics

[glad adder]

Do you rememeber when jp absolutely broke the game with bishop chain healing

[potent ibex]

haha

[glad adder]

I remember we threw like 13 people into a single war and only 3 survived

[nimble mantle]

Why didn't shamans rule in 1.19

Even tstack

[odd junco]

the not acting like this in question:

[potent ibex]

War Syndicate and coalition war. Both alliances owned a province and went to war until a lone victor remained. That didn’t stop even for Christmas! True dedication and a memorable occasion indeed.

[stuck meteor]

yes but ice

the thing is

[odd junco]

my main point is that it seemed like people in rp had a stick up their own ass

[glad adder]

That is IceResistance. He is a special case. He has been a constant meme in the guild community since 2017. He makes good points but please trust me he does not represent the old guard of the community

[potent ibex]

I don’t

I am an avid memer and Drew learned over the years not to take me seriously

[eager gull]

Hoc was roleplaying in corkus

Trust

[stuck meteor]

even if there were 2 alliance like those, this would end in the spam of a few hours.
with 1 side overwhelmin the other, and placing some sub or something like that in their place, or with both side agreeing to a peace because it's not worth the effort

[odd junco]

and the rp fanned the flames of people with egos having yesmen

[pure belfry]

can i join

[odd junco]

obviously there's going to be yesmen in every guild if people are eyeing to be owner

[wide shadow]

you gonna get groomed lil bro

stay away

[potent ibex]

Ego was equivalent to rocket fuel. It worked to fuel wars. I think it was a good thing?

Maybe we all just need to have more ego these days

[pure belfry]

https://tenor.com/view/shrek-gif-502627409480164820

[glad adder]

I think this is just because it was a mega competitive time for the community and the roleplay guilds were the dominant players for like 4 years. Any guild that stays that powerful for that long gives off this impression

[grizzled thistle]

no way bro's trying to be a victim

crazy

[odd junco]

ego and being yesmen is the type of shit that led FOOL members to downplay elangche doing stuff 😲

[glad adder]

Which rp guilds are you talking about specifically

[frail niche]

good morning dread and ponto

[odd junco]

where is my good morning...

[wide shadow]

good morning CRIMINAL

[frail niche]

WDYM

[stuck meteor]

good morning

[pure belfry]

good morning CHEATER

[frail niche]

[eager gull]

Criminal mt

[potent ibex]

It was a facade. If you played it off like you had power other guilds just naturally respected your influence too. Politics at its finest imo. Especially when you could back it up

[odd junco]

thank you bro

[frail niche]

guys free memebard

[wide shadow]

FREE MEMEBARD!!!

[pure belfry]

can i have one

[odd junco]

lock memebard up until he says good morning

[frail niche]

im leaving all that stuff in 2024

[nimble mantle]

I mean valhalla lasted for a good amount of time

[frail niche]

im a changed man in 2025

[frail niche]

good morning vro

[odd junco]

😊

let the king out of the castle

[eager gull]

Guys remember to take a shit before new years to not take the same shit into 2025

[pure belfry]

will you put your head inside a hopper with me though

[potent ibex]

A guild doesn’t claim status for themselves. Other guilds give them respect and hence status.

(Negligible now days)

[stuck meteor]

If I am not mistaken with the alliance, during valhalla time hq sniping wasn't really discovered/invented yet

[frail niche]

its a nice comfortable headwear

[grizzled thistle]

https://tenor.com/view/hmusicruof4-rowley-diary-of-a-wimpy-kid-rodrick-rules-gif-26773802

[odd junco]

and my point is that being the leader of a guild can lead to ego tripping

im not saying it doesnt happen now

[stuck meteor]

it was only a myth, that then aeq (with some glitch) and prof destroyed, and then everyone started to get into it

[odd junco]

just when you've got actual roles ingrained into the ego trip it kinda sucks worse 🤪

[eager gull]

Hoc was a prime example

[nimble mantle]

Ur totally wrong

[stuck meteor]

but again, i might be confusing with another alliacne

[nimble mantle]

Eden drysniped hqs

[stuck meteor]

valhalla was the alliance when ano moved in ocean right?

[stuck meteor]

yes

eden came AFTER prof

[potent ibex]

But it worked? Power plays and stuff were fueled by ego. Guilds feeling like they deserve more but their mega alliance doesn’t cooperate with their map requests, ect.

That’s all ego.

[nimble mantle]

Yea and then was knocked out of it by banana army

[stuck meteor]

because prof went around after TNL decided to take over SE

which is why prof decided to fuck everyone

[nimble mantle]

We were given a racist status

gg

[stuck meteor]

afterwards when prof was given back SE, those warrers move, alongside half of ERN to eden and tnl

[eager gull]

What slurs do to a mf

[stuck meteor]

to destroy that alliance

[potent ibex]

If I was in an alliance and felt like we weren’t being treated fairly and receiving our fair share, I’d leave to defend our own honor.

[pure belfry]

the guild owner in question

[nimble mantle]

Yea and you'd get wiped and cease to exist

gg?

[glad adder]

Yes you did it constantly. Over and over. I think we accepted you back into Federation like 16 different times

[potent ibex]

I would, but others no

[nimble mantle]

What

[wide shadow]

He'd win

[potent ibex]

Other guilds had success if they really believed in their power. Several guilds left mega alliances and toppled them?

Created a new alliance

[glad adder]

Ice always wins

[potent ibex]

I win bc I stay around the longest. You don’t have to be the best, just the last!

[wide shadow]

im sayin

[eager gull]

Im kinda sad i missed all the interesting war history

[eager gull]

Ever since ive been warring everyone’s called it shit 😭

[potent ibex]

Don’t be sad, make some! Make history like bruh that’s my point

[nimble mantle]

Yeah it was peak ngl

[wide shadow]

making history is not possible anymore

alone

Ngl

[potent ibex]

All the creative people left

[wide shadow]

You could be the most avid attacker guild and nobody would care

[nimble mantle]

It is but no point for that

[frail niche]

i think blak made history

just not how they wanted it

[wide shadow]

Fr

[potent ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/megamind-presentation-cool-dramatic-behold-gif-4559759

[potent ibex]

This is what guilds understood back then

[nimble mantle]

They never wanted to make history lol

[odd junco]

i think some guilds like QZZ and fuy have made history

[tender ginkgo]

@acoustic karma

[wide shadow]

yeah like 2 years ago

[nimble mantle]

And i think qzz/fuy made more history than blak

[acoustic karma]

Why u care for a small dumbass ffa guild

[nimble mantle]

Fuy is literally insane

[acoustic karma]

@tender ginkgo HAPPY NEW YEARS

[keen isle]

nowadays you cant really make history by attacking

[nimble mantle]

Wasn't me

[keen isle]

because noone cares rn

[nimble mantle]

I don't

[odd junco]

because guilds rn are too slop and corporatised

[nimble mantle]

There are just no guilds to attack to make history

And no common enemy

[eager gull]

Time to solo war every territory fr

[keen isle]

dude

[acoustic karma]

Yeah u can like just be goated like me

[wide shadow]

Let's make PROF the common enemy 👍

[acoustic karma]

@wide shadow you staying in 2024

[nimble mantle]

I meant attacking guilds*

[eager gull]

Well i’d have to leave ano bc they like sitting on ocean and sleeping

[odd junco]

@dawn glade say goodbye fuc­ker

[frail niche]

and youd still not hit 1690 fro

[keen isle]

to me taq having weekly meetings was more corporatised

[odd junco]

prof is DYING this year

[wide shadow]

Wommpp

[nimble mantle]

Before the common enemy was the alliance, now it's single guilds so no history at all

[keen isle]

idk if guilds still have meeting but i doubt

[odd junco]

seq probs

[thorny bluff]

Last one we had was like 4 months ago probably

[nimble mantle]

I'd say avo ngl

I'm not a hater tho!!

[thorny bluff]

Maybe more

[stuck meteor]

@green elbow

do you guys have meetings?

[nimble mantle]

SORRY

[wide shadow]

i am a hater

[glad adder]

Absolutely fucking true! Fox exceptionalism! Genuinely one of the main ways I derived the absurd willpower to keep Fox on top during bad situations was my belief that Fox is better than other guilds. Therefore I couldn't allow the rest of the community to see us as anything other than the best guild so winning came at all cost

[stuck meteor]

(sorry for ping donbass)

[keen isle]

wtf!

[eager gull]

I’d make a guild if there were atleast 4 people also interested in doing somewhat what i wanna do but like idk anyone that would want to

But just solo warring everything would get old and just kinda not achieve anything

[acoustic karma]

Seq meeting be like: 🤓🦣🦅👹

[odd junco]

it'd take an asteroid the size of chicxulub to take out the shitslop guilds that currently run map

[nimble mantle]

It's all femboys

[glad adder]

holy shit

[thorny bluff]

Our last one was August

[odd junco]

there'll always be another troglodyte in line for the crown of owner

[glad adder]

im joining Seq

[acoustic karma]

They discussing toxic maxxing

[odd junco]

what dread said

[wide shadow]

my condolences

[frail niche]

hold up his writing is actually fire

[acoustic karma]

My condolences

[glad adder]

ive never heard of that guild in my life

[frail niche]

they have lindafelix they cant be that bad

[odd junco]

seq is most two faced guild in existance

[acoustic karma]

Does bro not play wynn

[odd junco]

imma just be real

[wide shadow]

bro hasnt played wynn fo years 😭

[odd junco]

they shittalk everyone then act wholesome and friendly

[potent ibex]

Can I just be honest? No guild will ever be as legendary as Fox. This was true back then, and it made other guilds furious bc they knew that even if they somehow made it, they would never amount to the same legacy they had. Fox was a species like none other. Call me a simp, but 🤷‍♂️

[pure belfry]

you arent being honest

[glad adder]

I was biiiiggg into guilds in 2015-2019. I haven't played Wynn regularly since then no

[nimble mantle]

I've never seen a seq high rank here/speak about guilds at all

[acoustic karma]

seq is like obey us or death by 34 hour captain snaking

[glad adder]

I just recently got bored and started leveling up a new class though

[nimble mantle]

Except for raid

[wide shadow]

Oh fr

Wild

[odd junco]

yeah no shit they do it in private

[stuck meteor]

chat, fireworks are about to go, i'll be back in 10ish minutes

[pure belfry]

what

[nimble mantle]

You can say that about any guild then

[odd junco]

raidkeeper secretly talking shit about me in raidcists then getting me banned for finding it 😍

[wide shadow]

strict "no beef" policy

how u think they never haev any ffa gremlins raid them

[frail niche]

theres just like 2 camps of chiefs i think, the old really weird ones and the new catgirl maxxing raiders

[potent ibex]

Honestly it’s not 1.20’s fault. Guilds were on a downhill spire after Drew left 😔

[nimble mantle]

Show

[odd junco]

it was here somewhere

[potent ibex]

We just haven’t been able to produce another mind like his as a community

[pure belfry]

holy fguicking shit

will you please just shut the fuc,k up

nobody is listening

please leave NOW

[odd junco]

are you two gay for each other perchance

because this meatriding is INSANE

[glad adder]

no this is just ice

[wide shadow]

Can sm1 do that for me pls

Thx in advance

[potent ibex]

https://tenor.com/view/taylor-swift-taylor-swift-anti-hero-taylor-swift-midnights-taylor-swift-im-the-problem-gif-27054632

[odd junco]

ponto omg he's like the most genius mind in guild community...

[pure belfry]

youa re ms lewinsky..

[frail niche]

free memebard 2025

[pure belfry]

12 stx dread 2025

only 7 stx 2024

[potent ibex]

Do forgive me, I haven’t had a gl chat to talk in for a matter of years.

[acoustic karma]

Will memebard be my friend in 2025

@frail niche

[odd junco]

the reason pre-1.20 wars were based on people's achievements rather than guild's achievements was because it was an egotrip festival

[frail niche]

its oficially 12stx to join my guild now

[odd junco]

you afk'd wars pre-1.20

[frail niche]

alt tab boat pandemonium

[wide shadow]

I mean

[pure belfry]

11 stx if you dm me (same guild)

[wide shadow]

Tbf its also because guilds as a medium were far less complicated

[odd junco]

fuy QZZ did technically insane feats

[acoustic karma]

I will be joinjng dread on an alt

[subtle valve]

original message deleted 😔

[wide shadow]

So you had to make your own enjoyment via community stuff

[frail niche]

LMAO

[acoustic karma]

@subtle valve happy 2015

[subtle valve]

thank you mocomochi

[toxic berry]

Hi Ice

[odd junco]

the problem has gone from wars being too boring and easy to wars being too niche and hard to get into

[frail niche]

@subtle valve happy 2025 can i get invited to new raidcist

[subtle valve]

no germans

[odd junco]

ill pay someone 2le to speak nicely about me rn

[glad adder]

wars were easier in the sense that actually winning individual guild wars was pretty much guaranteed but that meant the fun came in how fucking rapid it was and the mental battle of trying to wear down opponents and overwhelm them

[frail niche]

what if i get a vouch from linny

[acoustic karma]

FUCK YOU

[subtle valve]

sircmt is so cool

[odd junco]

pay me 2le

[odd junco]

omg thanks !!!!

[pure belfry]

hey un delete it

i didnt see