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supple rapids
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I'm not much of a christian scholar since I absolutely refuse but I think most people are referring to the actual types of actions jesus took when they say this

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rather than the bible as a whole

olive hedge
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thats fair

coral surge
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“Can we go to Hooters again?”

reef fox
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I mean sure but unless you want to argue the "both sides" fallacy and say that Nazism is a perfectly valid interpretation of Jesus's teachings, there is an objectively correct (or more correct) interpretation of what modern day political party Jesus's philosophy would most accurately reflect

Assuming we take the route of feed the hungry, house the poor, help the needy, in the US it would 100% be villainized and be considered a socialist threat. I think it's entirely realistic and accurate that Jesus would be labeled "woke" because he was an activist

reef fox
dusk trail
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based jesus vs chud “christian” who doesn’t help the poor and destitute

sand vine
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The "christian" party in germany kicking out immigrants and making the poor even poorer while giving tax presents to the rich:

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Its the same shit everywhere bruh

reef fox
sand vine
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Das crazy

supple rapids
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Me when people fall for the right wing party's latest claim they'll make the economy better and not just cut taxes for the rich: 🥀

magic whale
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when number go up life still not get better.. 🥺

dusk trail
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me when grog strike rock and different rock together and make glowing bright minisun that can make food warm and tasty

dusk trail
misty plover
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visual trellis
edgy forge
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I dont think an armed revolution would leave the country better off actually

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Good chat about Jesus though, I think there's for sure a lot in his teachings that, when put to action, might today be seen as socialist in a negative light.
Though, to be reasonable, theres also much in his thought that, when applied, would put to question the stances of todays more left-leaning groups

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And much thats forgotten by all lol

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I think the golden rule (and its variations) in particular is something that everyone ought to keep in mind, especially in todays world

tawdry warren
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we should all become passive sadists and get pleasure from each others pain (do unto others)

azure tide
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Well the US has separation of religion and state so of course they wouldn’t rely on arguments from the bible right?!

tawdry warren
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There are arguments in the bible to be made for the separation of religion and state

misty plover
misty plover
edgy forge
misty plover
edgy forge
cerulean cove
azure tide
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But it is preferred

misty plover
misty plover
azure tide
runic bolt
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yapping in memes channel again

azure tide
misty plover
runic bolt
misty plover
azure tide
misty plover
azure tide
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God

misty plover
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Ouh ouh ouh!! I recently read through the ten commandments on English and noticed they are way different and just don't make sense compared to the German one!!

edgy forge
solar rock
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asbsososo... cmemina..

misty plover
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For instance, the second one in English says that one should not pray to anything, because God is a Jaelous God...
And that was interesting, as the German one said that one should not pray to anything, because God is an Eager God.

Completely different interpretations can be taken there.
Which is why in English god is seen as more negative than in German. Where God is someone that doesn't need prayers, as God will do everything in their power already, and doesn't need further reminders.

runic bolt
cerulean cove
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And they got re-written after they killed everyone for worshipping a golden statue

misty plover
edgy forge
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Well yes, that's what we all like to think

dense onyx
azure tide
misty plover
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Luther and Guttenberg were Germans. Actually not even that far away from my home town

azure tide
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I mean even if it did copy the german bible, let’s not be mistaken, the bible isnt german either

misty plover
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And Luther struggled heavily to translate the Bible. In his notes it was all mentioned how in the ancient texts one word can have two vastly different meanings!

There's a word like that in German I like to use. "umfahren" means to kill someone by hitting them with a car. But it also means to drive around someone safely. Or spelled the same, pronounced differently

misty plover
azure tide
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Genuine question

misty plover
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Because of the first part. God does not want you to pray to anything. Not even God himself. Nothing heavenly, nothing of evil either. So no angels, no Jesus, no God.

God being described as the father as well, all knowing and all powerful. He knows how it's going for every one of us, what our needs are, and where we need help. He knows our love to him, and also why we might not love or not believe in God, a kind and understanding father will forgive a child for being misled or confused.

So if you have someone constantly talking to him "dad, help, please, help me, I need help, I can't do my homework" then you would get pretty annoyed after a while. So you tell your child not to ask you every question, but let him get to you when he has the time.

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And why I don't think it's the Jaelous part, what would God be Jaelous of? If you pray to a different God, then God knows that you have been mislead or simply didn't know who the real God is. So God would not be mad at you for that, as he understands and forgives you.

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But my belief is not Christianity, it is completely different, separate belief

azure tide
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This seems more like interpretation of the text though as oppose to a basis from actual sources of translation

misty plover
edgy forge
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Well to be fair it's not like theres zero sources

azure tide
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Yeah there are actual sources

misty plover
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I like to say, nothing made by man is holy, and anything holy touched becomes corrupt.
Any holy scripture is written by man, not by God. Man can claim it was given to them by God, but in the end, it was the hand of man. Not god

edgy forge
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Quite a bit of writing has survived, and given that theyre all handwritten copies, you can make approximations of a very high accuracy

azure tide
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People have actually studied and translated the historical language the bible was written in

misty plover
azure tide
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azure tide
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The Bible is a collection of hundreds of books

misty plover
hybrid robin
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the bible was just ancient ragebait that people took too seriously

misty plover
azure tide
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Well no? But every paper has revisions made by the authors or even by people succeeding them. That wouldn’t mean that their intention is completely gone

misty plover
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But that would be two beliefs crashing, i don't believe in any holy book, as it was written by man, making nothing holy within it.

hybrid robin
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anyone who believes in the bible is stupid

misty plover
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Also no holy objects, cause Interpretation is praying to god

dark aspen
novel wolf
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why is it the one of the few times I look in here the memes are gone again

hybrid robin
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fr

novel wolf
hybrid robin
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gimme memes

misty plover
dark aspen
hybrid robin
edgy forge
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Hmm

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It would help you folks, perhaps, if you had a chat with someone of actual knowledge and deep-held belief of christianity

dark aspen
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Fr.

hybrid robin
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christianity is just a giant pyramid scheme

dark aspen
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Do we have anyone like that here?

hybrid robin
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people are blind to the truth

edgy forge
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It's not very productive to regurgitate reddit atheisms in an echochamber like this, at least if you want to understand the world

novel wolf
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maybe not in the memes channel where nobody gets taken seriously here?

azure tide
# misty plover Exactly, revisions can be changed

I dont see how revisions make it any less accurate. Plus I mean the bible was already approximately made decades after the death of Jesus and the apostles through oral tradition. This is like actually as good as it gets to their intentions. I personally don’t trust that specifically because of that time period

edgy forge
misty plover
# hybrid robin yeah they got brainwashed into believing it

I would not say brainwashed, having any explanation is better than no explanation. The human mind cannot comprehend something it doesn't understand, so it tries to make something up to understand it. Which is why someone who does not understand that water molecules have positive and negative electrical charges that when rubbed against create static electricity that connects to the positively charged earth to then unleash a surge of electricity, is far more likely to say "God of thunder is angry"

dark aspen
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That sure came out of nowhere.

azure tide
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Like if you’re asking if anyone has any written text by the apostles or God himself, there just isnt any

edgy forge
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Boring ragebait aside, I think theres a pitfall being taken here: it would be silly to assume people who believe or are religious are any less rational than we are

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If your base assumption is that these people are misled somehow, then you're bound to be mistaken in trying to understand this part of the world

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Thats not to say religion provides some sort of objective truth that you also should believe

azure tide
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Because there is no such thing as objective truth. Emotivism ftw

edgy forge
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Or at least not any easier than by those of religious orientation

misty plover
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Religion also has an important role in keeping a community. Around here a lot of the mosques decided to clean up the towns after new year. And they did a great job. It brought a community of people together to do good for a community

misty plover
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And never will

azure tide
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What makes you sure of the existence of objective truth?

misty plover
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There is no thing as objective or subjective truth. There is only truth. Truth means that that is what happened, exactly what happened. Truth is the absolute. Something is true or false. Any slight divination from true is false

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And everything happened somehow. We just don't know how

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So we don't know the truth

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But the truth happened

edgy forge
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Belief, then?

misty plover
azure tide
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Wuh

misty plover
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Belief is not truth

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Is there a language barrier? Do you misinterpret truth

azure tide
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You said “there is objective truth” and you immediately deny it’s existence

edgy forge
azure tide
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In the next sentence

misty plover
azure tide
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azure tide
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Oh alr

misty plover
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As in recent times people have came up with "subjective truth" which is bs

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Perspective would be the right word

azure tide
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Subjective means that it is the truth as someone perceives

misty plover
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Truth cannot be from a perspective

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Truth is the definitive thing that happened

edgy forge
misty plover
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Not even Religion based, but in general, linguistics now

azure tide
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Alright then, if there is a line on the floor. One person faces it’s north and says “this line is vertical” while someone faces its east and says “this is horizontal”. Which of them is correct?

misty plover
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You described perspective

azure tide
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What if a person didnt draw the line

misty plover
azure tide
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So would you say both parties are lying

misty plover
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But that's a bad example anyway

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Because horizontal and vertical are already a perspective

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So they are relative

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We can use a different example

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A rock that was cracked

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One person says it was cracked by a hammer

azure tide
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Well no, like you said you’d ask the person who drew it

misty plover
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The other says by a rock

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Now we have three possibilities. Both wrong, hammer, or stone

azure tide
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azure tide
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Well that just proves the existence of truth but doesnt disprove the existence of subjective truth

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Which is our topic

misty plover
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You didn't give an example for subjective truth

azure tide
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I did

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You just said it was a bad example

misty plover
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You gave an example using relative words to describe a relative viewpoint, not something that has happened

misty plover
azure tide
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Well wdy want? Relative perspective can be true for people

misty plover
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Nooo, the word true does not mean what you think it means

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Truth and true aren't the same either

azure tide
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Ok but what is true? A human definition correct?

misty plover
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Truth is what happened, something needs to happen. An observation is not happening

misty plover
edgy forge
azure tide
edgy forge
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Because it creates oxymorons like that

misty plover
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misty plover
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Awesome

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So now you can understand what I meant by there is a truth, but we don't know it

azure tide
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I mean truth about what

misty plover
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How everything happened

azure tide
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Oh I was referring to moral truths

misty plover
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The universe creation, how life started, everything that passed

azure tide
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Not being real

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Like im saying there is no objective moral truth

misty plover
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What is a moral truth

novel wolf
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why not just say a happening or an occurrence instead of truth

azure tide
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Like truth that is universal

misty plover
novel wolf
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wouldn't the correct one be itself though

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why would it need a version

edgy forge
azure tide
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Suffering is not a moral is it?

misty plover
edgy forge
azure tide
edgy forge
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Because we can derive morals from it

misty plover
novel wolf
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rugged ore
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Im here to ruin the mood

novel wolf
azure tide
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azure tide
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Universal truth means that everyone is compelled to follow it

rugged ore
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Why we talking about religion

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Post memes fellas

cosmic swan
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should I repost that meme here

misty plover
edgy forge
cosmic swan
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you know what I should because It should be spread to more people

rugged ore
cosmic swan
rugged ore
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Pretty sure extensive religion talk is against rules

edgy forge
rugged ore
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Cause it spirals out of hand like this every time

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So stop :)

edgy forge
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Hasnt been a chat about religion for a long while though?

misty plover
azure tide
misty plover
edgy forge
misty plover
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If the animal was scared, and accidentally hurt you, would you say it was unmoral?

edgy forge
runic bolt
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yall make a group chat or server or sum 💔 the people want memes not extensive discussion of ethics and religion

novel wolf
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orphion does not care for morals come on everyone go beat the parasite

azure tide
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Ig we could move to general

runic bolt
edgy forge
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sure enough

misty plover
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I think that you're a bit confused about the meaning of some words.@azure tide
Not meaning it in a condescending way, just that you seem to think these words mean something else

misty plover
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People here would not understand the philisophocal depth of three guys with the tism

rugged ore
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Nice ghost ping

dark aspen
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Sorry...

misty plover
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I saw that embed fail

dark aspen
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😭

dark aspen
rugged ore
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Cosplay

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You're welcome

dark aspen
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You're not supposed to...

rugged ore
dark aspen
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WAIT WHY HE SHREDDIN'!?

runic goblet
magic whale
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FLUFFLE !!

random marten
supple rapids
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Holy shit the conversation really went crazy last night 💀

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Fun fact it reminded me of: Anyone being sworn in to any government position can do so on any book they want. So, yes, a 5th edition calc textbook or a japanese manga would both be ok

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(In the USA, that is)

torn olive
supple rapids
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(yes)

dusk trail
supple rapids
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(if you print it out prolly)

torn olive
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Why is that even?

supple rapids
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cause its ceremonial in nature

torn olive
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Oh, makes sense

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Still…

supple rapids
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There is a shocking amount of stuff in the US government that is entirely held up via tradition and ceremony

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which means that technically there is nothing stopping people from doing just an insane amount of shit

torn olive
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Nice…

dusk trail
torn olive
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No, like starting a war in Venezuela

dusk trail
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well

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that isn’t the middle east

torn olive
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Hmmmmm, wait a minute

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You're right!

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Damn

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Welp, I guess there's a new favourite american past-time

untold hamlet
torn olive
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Oh, right

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Next we are in Canada-Week right?

supple rapids
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We already did Canada Week

torn olive
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Oh, what's next week then?

dark aspen
torn olive
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Ooh, yay, let's go!

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Or maybe Antarctica? Or both?

supple rapids
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No I think next week is the concept of protein

torn olive
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Oooh

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🙁

elfin turret
honest vortex
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Check memes channel:
Political sarcasm and no memes

supple rapids
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No gimme more 2011 memes pls

cerulean cove
wispy pecan
magic whale
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2, 7, or 3 (assuming dullahan is not resurrected & evil) seem like the safest seats
along with 1, 4! aledar and taism keep you save from wyrm and gobb <3

personal favorite is 2, u can probably pet orphion a few times and maxie is very cool ^_^
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jolly egret
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5 because i'll fit right in

slate patrol
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5 so i can hit yahyas geekbar n tweak da whole flight

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or 1 to get some furry huzz

honest vortex
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Is 8 seaskipper?

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And a window seat?

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8 is the only right choice

light grove
# wispy pecan

1- Aledar meh he was originally gonna kill you
2 - Maxie is okay
3 - You are getting yapped at by Lari
4 - Tasim chill
5 - The Eye is awesome (just ask him to evaporate Yahya tbh)
6 - BAKAL
7 - Why is Ava on a flight what
8 - Seaskipper captain not bad also Greg
9 - Canyon colossus is cool but mf who claims to be preparing for darkness but is actually doing jack shit in silent expanse is not
10 - COLOSSAL RAT

So prob 2, 4, 5, 8, or 10 (8 or 10 best)

honest vortex
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Did bro name the nameless anomaly

magic whale
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the nameless legless anomaly

random marten
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naive thistle
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It would just take you a very long time and be very tiring

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Same as ava could easily fly 300 miles

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It would just take a very long time and be very tiring

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Instead we use modern technology so we do not have to do such things

honest vortex
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its like a bus for the sky

azure ember
# wispy pecan

By rule of spacing and what becomes/are allies 1, however 8 is kind of surrounded by characters of which I am a big fan (Ava, Gale and seaskipper)

jaunty needle
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I will die

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but I will see the greatest battle in history

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If I don't want to die then 4

honest vortex
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no one likes my boy yahya?

light grove
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dusk trail
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seaskipper captain my day one

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never forget your homies

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i’d become homicidal if i sat in 3

honest vortex
maiden swallow
ashen knoll
tawny lion
normal crown
worldly field
dense onyx
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I just don't want to sit next to an Eldritch horror that will be staring at me the whole flight

dense onyx
keen root
# wispy pecan

I have a question, is everyone following airport rules or the moment you sit next to a boss/aggressive mob they will try and kill you.

dense onyx
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I think it's airport rules, because otherwise the plane would crash before it takes off

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Though now that I look closer, some of these things on the plane are mindless beasts, so the plane would crash either way

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magic whale
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oOOOOooo, tell me~

dusk trail
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skybl*ck

jolly egret
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wrong server and channel

dusk trail
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i’ve heard enough

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i’m commandeering this channel for the skyblock legion

river dragon
rare mauve
dusk trail
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they look normal and not grotesque

river dragon
dark aspen
# rare mauve

"Ah if only there was a way to find my car in this parking lot"
The humble among us car:

gaunt gale
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Ngl I'm not gonna put fuel to the fire with meme templates that would engage in such, so I had to be less aggressive with these "anti-memes" or whatever

wispy jackal
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The duck/grammarly made a typo

dense onyx
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gives me a reason to leave minecraft forever

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since wynncraft is basically the only other server I play on other than hypixel

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and even then I don't really play much hypixel

fathom willow
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Salted is capitalizing off clickbait rn so much its peak

reef fox
# dense onyx I want wynntale

highkey, wynncraft team has a pretty strong understanding of how to make MMOs fun, if they made a Hytale server it would be wildly successful

raven light
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Low-key, yes, but probably wouldn’t be “wildly” successful, it would probably be a struggle to just not fail

azure tide
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azure tide
supple rapids
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Hytale also just kinda looks like a minecraft modpack rn it needs to cook a bit more (which makes sense, its early access)

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(just... yknow, took 11 years to hit early access)

verbal flame
supple rapids
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but also that game has problems

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really the only two I've ever seen compared to a minecraft modpack are hytale and vintage story

verbal flame
supple rapids
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...unfair?

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Idc if its fair or unfair the fact is its been in dev hell for 11 years for whatever reason. They're gonna get development going again now but I'm not gonna hold my breath for it to come out of early access (but if it does? Great!).

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also vintage story literally evolved from minecraft mods so it makes sense it feels like a modpack in many ways

verbal flame
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It definitely was in development hell but the version of the game we have now has had significantly less dev time than the version Riot Games was funding

supple rapids
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I believe I heard they lost about 4 years to Riot right?

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That's still 7 years of dev time which is more than most games get

verbal flame
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So I was getting at it being unfair to say that the current Hytale we have has had 11 years of devtime (I think it would actually be 9 years including Riot's years)

supple rapids
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Look I'll get it when it comes out for real

verbal flame
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I mean I don't recommend picking it up until like minigame servers go live

supple rapids
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Also looks like Riot acquired hytale in 2020, so they lost 6 years of dev time.

verbal flame
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But I do want to make sure we're being honest about the amount of time the game has actually had to be developed

supple rapids
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5 years for what they have is still a horrible sign that its in mega dev hell

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So, I aint holdin my breath

verbal flame
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But the version we have is effectively the trailer version, as stated by Simon

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So it appears that Hytale has successfully made it out of development hell

supple rapids
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The assumption that it will get out of dev hell because it returned to the original developers who were in dev hell is, uh, a funny one.

verbal flame
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???

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It's an observation based on the game actually releasing and already recieving updates

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There's not much of an assumption about it

supple rapids
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...I mean you do you? go be hype about it. I'm not holding my breath but there's no reason to get your ears waxed over it.

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you aren't gonna convince me its not still in dev hell lmfao

verbal flame
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Usually it's a state of development that prevents progress towards release to the public from being made

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Hytale made it to release, even if it is early access

maiden holly
maiden holly
supple rapids
maiden holly
tacit patio
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having the ability to fully mod animations, weapons, and skills propper into a server instead of workarounds thats needed for minecraft i feel would make making wyncraft easier to produce content, and make for better content overall in hytale

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not saying wyncraft is bad- you can build a great thing on an old foundation, but i would love to see it made on this new foundation

sage hawk
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dawg this isnt even a memes chanel anymore.
Anyways my two cents is that people have been saying its a fun experience. Its definitely not complete but the team working at hytale is working hard in fixing bugs with them even giving out a payout for more significant bug reports. Overall its a fun game for plenty thats likely to grow into something much greater.

There is also a bunch of early concepts around the works that looks quite cool. Lastly it definitely has a lot going for it, specifically with multi threading and other game optimizations allowing for things like seamless chunk rendering from what I see.

Its a fun game and i see an optinistic future for hytale overall

graceful trench
rugged ore
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it was more discussions than memes even in 2017

dense owl
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hytale will be quickly forgotten if mojang release a content update again
very important word here. if. based on current trajectories this does not seem to ever be happening

dense owl
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hytale kind of released at the perfect moment to capitalize on mojang swerving hard into stagnation, plus the 2-3 years of pent-up "anti-mojang" discourse (idk what to call it exactly but its the reasonable discourse abt mc lacking content that evaporates into minecraft should be more like terraria)

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wtf gard

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get OUT!!! GET OUT OF HERE!!!!!!!!!

novel wolf
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NO WHY ARE YOU HERE

dense owl
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i steal the funny posts here dude

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and throw in my two cents when i feel like it

novel wolf
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ok I'll go back to the other channels then

dense owl
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all my real ones stick around for the grab-bag wall of images and videos posted by whatshisname

dense onyx
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Breaking up the text walls

dark aspen
dense owl
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hell yeah wetentity

dense owl
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and those were like 1-2 years ago

dark aspen
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He's a real one; there's always a meme he posts I just gotta steal appreciate.

proud dew
dusk trail
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nice argument. unfortunately, i've already depicted myself as the phlegmatic head and you as the melancholic head

river dragon
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laughs over keyboard mash

naive thistle
river dragon
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Idk shrug

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ask jake eyes for that one idk what to tell

green haven
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Is that like touhou or something

worldly field
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just more weird undertale posting

deft moss
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To save and use later

cunning bluff
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^ scam

simple spade
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Death

marble bough
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Why didn't you post the better one?

marble bough
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magic whale
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that's something someone who would take mumbo's mustache away would say

reef fox
supple rapids
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You can still eventually release in development hell, development hell means you're stuck taking 10000 years to do that.

reef fox
reef fox
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there's a certain connotation (negative) with that phrase, and it does not fit

naive thistle
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Personally, I think it would be cool to see just what the wynncraft team could do with the current and future capabilities of hytale. But im perfectly content for wynncraft to stay minecraft

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Theres no reason to port it over or anything

reef fox
supple rapids
reef fox
supple rapids
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Nah its in development hell, early access is basically pre production

sick abyss
#

You just don't understand what development hell is

reef fox
reef fox
supple rapids
sick abyss
#

Development hell isn't just "it takes long" that would be a worthless term

reef fox
#

"game is in development hell because it's not fully released yet" is a really stupid take and that means that literally every game ever that hasn't been released yet is in development hell.

That's not "development hell"

supple rapids
#

Hytale is almost a game but it'll never be more than a minecraft modpack in disguise, sadly.

supple rapids
reef fox
#

"every voxel game ever is just minecraft modpack in disguise" 🤓

sick abyss
#

Under riot it was in development hell, now it's not

supple rapids
#

Nah, I mean cube world isnt a minecraft modpack

reef fox
supple rapids
#

People keep saying that like Riot didnt only own it for a few years

reef fox
#

wasn't in development hell
was in development hell
isn't in development hell

like, it doesn't take a genius to figure that out

sick abyss
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The devs rewrote the game from the ground up (multiple times iirc?) after getting bought by riot because they were afraid the game didn't meet high enough standards

supple rapids
#

yall keep talking about the actual definition like its not a slang term

reef fox
supple rapids
#

Oh so now rewriting the game from the ground up is making progress?

reef fox
#

You're doing the equivalent of saying "Yeah I got so much rizz" and then referring to how heavy your bag of golden coins is

sick abyss
supple rapids
reef fox
#

slang words/phrases have agreed upon definitions and you're literally using it incorrectly

reef fox
supple rapids
#

Its literally in early development still

sick abyss
#

I have looked up the definition multiple times from an actual site in this case the ai just copied it almost word for word from such sites

supple rapids
#

Wtf do you think "early access" means

reef fox
#

@supple rapids
Being in development is not the same as being permanently in limbo. You should attempt to read more dude

supple rapids
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for being stuck in early development

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which it still is in

reef fox
supple rapids
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just ignore @reef fox they pinged me for a day old conversation just to be wrong

reef fox
supple rapids
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It'll be unstuck when they get out of early access

reef fox
supple rapids
#

no but being in development for 11 years only to release "early access" is development hell

sick abyss
#

You can be stuck in a basement because the door is locked, if someone unlocks the door you're no longer stuck even if you're still climbing the stairs out of the basement

supple rapids
#

Yeah but if someone broke your legs then you're still stuck in the damn basement

reef fox
supple rapids
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and they've been doing that for 11 years

reef fox
supple rapids
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I did, unfortunately you can't seem to understand basic concepts.

reef fox
#

please read what people say before responding to your own imaginary replies bruh

supple rapids
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I suppose "no game is in development hell when it starts development" is a take

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But its not a useful one

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Ooo look at me I'm not stuck in the basement yet because they havent finished locking the door!

reef fox
supple rapids
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Read what I said

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its not a useful take monksmug

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That's enough for now, I really don't care whether its in dev hell or not (I was just annoyed at you necroing the conversation for no good reason) but if they prove me wrong thats a good thing but I aint buying the damn game till its out of early access.

reef fox
supple rapids
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"I reject your reality and substitute it with my own"

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That's what im hearing

reef fox
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it's not my personal reality you're literally just D riding minecraft and hating on a new game because it's popular

supple rapids
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A game can be in development hell when it starts development

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Pfft so that's what this is about

reef fox
#
  • Game was in development hell because of Riot
  • Game is no longer in development hell because Simon bought it back

"erm it's still in development hell because it hasn't been released and that's my definition for development hell despite no one agreeing with me"

supple rapids
#

"Erm I'm gonna keep arguing because I don't understand the definition of development hell"

reef fox
reef fox
# supple rapids "Erm I'm gonna keep arguing because I don't understand the definition of develop...

Development hell, also known as development purgatory or development limbo, is media and software industry jargon for a project, concept, or idea that remains in a stage of early development for a long time because of legal, technical, or artistic challenges. A work may move between many sets of artistic leadership, crews, scripts, game engines,...

supple rapids
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oh I just love mojang so much they're such a better developer than Hytale could ever have. There, is that what you wanted to hear?

#

you keep posting a definition that contradicts you

reef fox
supple rapids
reef fox
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limbo is not "in early access"

supple rapids
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it says "also known as"

reef fox
#

limbo means "not making progress"

supple rapids
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not "means"

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the actual definition, that occurs a bit after, is "remains in a stage of early development for a long time"

reef fox
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"also known as" means that the two terms are interchangeable genius

supple rapids
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and it's currently still in early development 11 years later

supple rapids
reef fox
supple rapids
#

It literally says it up there, read your own post brother

supple rapids
reef fox
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stalled

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remains

supple rapids
#

okay I win so I'm gonna go touch grass cause I have better things to do than to argue with a fool

reef fox
jolly egret
#

ragebaiter vs ragebaitee

reef fox
dense owl
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hytale has released in some form so id say it isnt in dev hell anymore

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even if its only released in early access thats still releasing a playable thing to consumers

reef fox
#

the whole point of "development hell" is that no progress is being made. Silksong was in development for seven years but no one would call that dev hell because it was just additions and love and passion to the game, as opposed to constant rewrites or lack of direction

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it was stuck, but isn't anymore

dense owl
#

yeah there was a notable change in operations which led to a notable amount of progress to be made
even if the game is still early in development relative to its endgoal its still undergone a major shift in how development is handled which has led to new progress being made (in this case releaseing in ea)

subtle junco
#

Holy shit, the same argument has gone on for more than a day? That’s impressive.

supple rapids
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(it was necro'd)

subtle junco
#

Ah

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Well, hopefully the memes flow again soon.

reef fox
long delta
supple rapids
#

that's why you did that? lmfao nice

reef fox
subtle junco
#

I have little to no horse in the race of Hytale v Minecraft. I prefer the suffering Vintage Story inflicts upon me lol

long delta
reef fox
#

still great game

dense owl
#

rly gotta play it just to see what that shits all about

reef fox
tropic yarrow
olive hedge
thin lynx
#

classic minecraft moment

olive hedge
green haven
naive thistle
# olive hedge

Isn't his contingency for him something like liquid nitrogen

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Or freezing him so he can't stretch

lucid plank
# olive hedge

''batman every night praying go every deity ever concieved tha-'' timeout brother

river dragon
olive hedge
dusk trail
raven wyvern
fathom willow
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3% of your nw?

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You rich they/them

raven wyvern
# fathom willow 3% of your nw?

No... way more than I or anyone else will ever have... its a larger number than the amount of particles in the observeable universe.

fathom willow
#

So you're saying... 4%?

river dragon
normal crown
lyric river
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tasty water

dark aspen
fading zealot
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as per an interview with Team Cherry, they were literally just working on adding more stuff all the time and were having loads of fun

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some people have dubbed it "dev heaven"

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oh unless I misunderstood and you mean that hytale was stuck and isn't anymore

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if so that's true yeah

reef fox
# fading zealot oh unless I misunderstood and you mean that hytale was stuck and isn't anymore

Yes that's what I'm saying. The term "Development Hell" has a specific cultural meaning among gamers and game developers that refers to games that are stuck in limbo with little to no progress being done. While this usually leads to insanely long development time, the actual time limit has nothing to do with the definition.

Like in the message you replied to, Hytale was in limbo, it's not anymore. Hence the term "Development Hell" is an incorrect term if you use the definition that everyone understands it to be

humble panther
reef fox
humble panther
#

northern middle east had people who generally looked like greeks today

supple rapids
#

Silksong was never in dev hell but hytale sure is monklaugh

humble panther
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darker complexion than scandinavia but not dark

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they were ethnically cleansed and replaced by people from the southern middle east

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some still exist like assyrians and lebanese

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most modern middle easterners are descended from yemen

neat pagoda
karmic thunder
torn olive
# humble panther

Just curious, did you consider tan? I mean I'm inclined to believe that they spent much time on the fields (or outside generally) in that era and didn't really have sun protection (apart from the humble hat); those people who have the option to be photographed however most likely do have better living conditions

humble panther
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like i said not pasty white but not brown

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a greek kind of skin tone

torn olive
#

Interesting

verbal flame
#

You keep referring to this idea of it being "Just a Minecraft modpack in disguise", despite having an entirely different form of progression than Minecraft

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It's reminiscent of the idea of hating things that are popular simply because they're popular. None of your arguments to this point hold water

supple rapids
verbal flame
#

I mean it's evident that you're actually just ragebaiting

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But I'll take the bait

naive thistle
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Or shoot him numerous times

supple rapids
#

Unlike Hytale, Vintage Story shows what a sandbox game can be like when it's not just a minecraft modpack in disguise

dense owl
#

that lack of progress usually happens after the games been launched in early access

neat pagoda
worldly field
#

How long has this argument been going

dense owl
#

hytale required atleast some kind of work after the acquisition to be released in early access, which means there was progress made on it, meaning that it cannot be in dev hell if we are going by the commonly accepted definition of it

supple rapids
#

wayyyyyyy too long

naive thistle
#

Jesus christ are yall still talking about hytales development

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It's been more then a day

dense owl
verbal flame
#

This is actually just not applicable

verbal flame
supple rapids
naive thistle
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I don't know why people can't be happy, this isn't a situation of a game copying minecraft, it's a situation like vintage story where now instead of two cakes we have three and can be even happier

verbal flame
neat pagoda
verbal flame
dense owl
#

no way they got a plastic man

naive thistle
dense owl
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ohhh its that guy

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guess they do got a plastic man

supple rapids
dense owl
#

i apologize, marvel. i did not understand your game

supple rapids
naive thistle
#

Vintage story spawned because of a minecraft modpack, therfore to you it should be considered a minecraft clone koofer

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But apparently its not

supple rapids
#

10 points for Woe getting the ragebait

naive thistle
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Whereas a game like hytale that just took inspiration but is attempting to create an entirely different gameplay experience is

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I fail to see your logic

verbal flame
#

So you admit that you're just ragebaiting everyone?

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I'm at least relieved to hear that you aren't unironically trying to do these mental gymnastics

supple rapids
humble panther
#

is hytale good

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i havent had a pc to try to play it

supple rapids
#

Its early access right now so it needs to cook a bit more probably

naive thistle
#

It's pretty good yeah, but it's still so very early access and it's not nearly as finished as it should be

supple rapids
#

Unfortunately their microwave is broken

verbal flame
#

????

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Brother it's had two updates since release

errant topaz
#

Give it up for day 3 of this argument everybody

verbal flame
#

It's been ten days and they've already released two updates

naive thistle
#

Currently the world gen isn't the one they wanted to have, but they are planning on changing it to their v2 one

naive thistle
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Which I'm excited for

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Because the current one is actually pretty good all things considering and I'm wondering how good the v2 will be

supple rapids
verbal flame
#

Let's see you cite that

supple rapids
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The hytale creative menu in the first release is my evidence

naive thistle
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As far as I know all development of the game got knocked back by like 4 to 5 years

verbal flame
#

No, I said cite it

supple rapids
#

I did

verbal flame
#

Let's see a link, a screenshot, actual evidence

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Not just "I said so"

supple rapids
#

Hytale, Creative Menu, 2026

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Do you want it in MLA?

verbal flame
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I want a link, screenshot, or blog post

errant topaz
supple rapids
#

oh yeah my bad

naive thistle
#

The only thing I currently dislike about hytale is how bright it is outside, I think the shadows need a bit of work and such

supple rapids
#

Both of the updates just released content that was already built. (Hypixel Studios, Hypixel, Game, Initial Early Access Release, 1, Riot, 1/13/26, The creative menu)

verbal flame
#

Can you provide a location in the patch notes where the creative mode menu was mentioned?

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(You can't, it doesn't ever come up)

supple rapids
#

That's beyond the scope of this citation, do your own research

naive thistle
#

Again though, the release of this game was never meant to be a true experience of its full capabilities and content

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which shocker yes I know early access

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They just wanted to release a playable build so players could see what they had and get feedback for it

verbal flame
supple rapids
#

In MLA, please, with screenshots as per the standard you established

errant topaz
#

I can't tell if this is burden of proof or lack of evidence

supple rapids
#

Mmm yeah bud thats not a screenshot OR MLA

naive thistle
#

It is the literal patch notes though?

verbal flame
supple rapids
#

Your source is untrustworthy because of that, sadly. Find a new one.

errant topaz
#

hold on I gotta check the about us to make sure it's a reliable source of information

verbal flame
#

The real question here is about what you gain from hating on popular things

errant topaz
#

I'm maybe sorta kinda somewhat getting the idea that they like making people mad

supple rapids
naive thistle
#

You mentioned that the menu was mentioned in the patch notes koofer, so where in these patch notes does it mention it

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I don't mind reading through but I'm also trying to eat breakfast

supple rapids
#

Woe 0/10 ragebait I never said that

naive thistle
#

So since you know it would be faster for you to do it

verbal flame
#

I mean it's all quite confusing considering Koofer did buy the game

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So I don't know why they're hating on it

errant topaz
#

I thought the conversation wasn't about quality but was about the state of development

supple rapids
#

How else are you supposed to write a valid citation?

errant topaz
#

it's unfinished and that does impact quality but also they have time to make improvements and are working on it

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and the current product, while underbaked, has some good foundation

naive thistle
#

It's meant to be unfinished though?

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That's the whole point of early access

errant topaz
#

ye

naive thistle
#

And they even said that despite releasing it, it does not nearly have all the content they have and had planned

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So I don't understand why people would be judging it as if it does

errant topaz
#

Lobotomy Kaisen

naive thistle
#

I don't know what that means

errant topaz
#

jujutsu kaisen fans lack reading comprehension to understand the nuances of their own favorite media

naive thistle
#

Oh

errant topaz
#

I feel like people are also used to studios using early access as a scapegoat for their messy releases and then just.. never improving it. so this one's a bit of a shocker unfortunately

supple rapids
#

Yeah tbh thats super common

naive thistle
#

Yeah but given the context of this game

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They did spend a massive chunk of money buying it back

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I kinda doubt they are planning to leave it just as is

supple rapids
#

Oh I mean nobody in dev hell intends to be in dev hell

naive thistle
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Especially since it's practically the same people who had it before riot

supple rapids
#

Did they pay more to get it back than they sold it for?

naive thistle
#

God if I know

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I don't remember much fully except for what's needed on my day to day life

supple rapids
#

You got sleep apnea or something?

naive thistle
#

Nope

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I just don't have a good memory x)

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So I use it for the important things rather then random posts online

naive thistle
#

That's adorable

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Good wife

keen root
gusty turtle
#

his greed was his downfall

dusk trail
#

mama always said: deny, deny, deny

supple rapids
#

Ty nobody else seems to appreciate the artistry.

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If spectators arent going "Absolute Cinema" by the end I've failed

dusk trail
reef fox
reef fox
torn olive
#

WetEntity please absolve us from this eternal plight of a repeating discussion!

supple rapids
reef fox
supple rapids
#

I mean, learn to read 4head

reef fox
# supple rapids Me when I link a definition that contradicts me

Last reply because L rage bait, but if there's a chance you're being serious you should learn to read and use google instead of using a personally made up definition for a widely used and accepted term.

Like I said before, it's like saying "I got so much rizz" and then you're talking about how fluent you are in a different language. You are entitled to be silly if you want, but it's gonna confuse other people when you're using a personal definition and not what is culturally understood as it's meaning

supple rapids
#

Quoting AI?

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And linking the definition that contradicts your argument?

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It says "remains in early development" what do you think early access means

supple rapids
#

Like we've been over this I dont understand how this simple concept is so hard for yall

reef fox
naive thistle
reef fox
#

Like, look at this @naive thistle how can you look at this and not be hyped 🤩

naive thistle
reef fox
supple rapids
reef fox
#

I'm excited for the big ass ships we'll be able to sail honestly

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none of that shitty 2 block long rectangle wooden rowboat stuff

torn olive
torn olive
torn olive
gaunt gale
dusk plaza
naive thistle
#

Go go avatar

plush vortex
river dragon
#

Death reason: Expected that making weird ut shitpost will be funny enough totally not based on true story Clueless

jolly egret
#

I dont get it

river dragon
#

..no further question.

#

anyways

reef fox
river dragon
naive thistle
#

Some disgruntled worker getting paid 15 dollars an hour who hates getting up in the morning to deal with people's shit will have to clean it up

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Don't make their day worse

river dragon
#

"ok, i got it."

naive thistle
#

Thank you

olive hedge
river dragon
#

the plushies...! they're coming!

supple rapids
naive thistle
#

The terrain looks bad

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meanwhile minecraft terrain in its early stages

olive hedge
reef fox
#

There's no element of fantasy in it or wonder or enchantment :/

naive thistle
#

I think people just need to give hytale a chance

reef fox
olive hedge
#

i dont have some agenda against hytale i just dont see why it would come anywhere close to rivaling what is practically the most popular video game in history, especially when there are literally hundreds if not thousands of games out there that try to copy minecraft already

olive hedge
#

what's going to make hytale any better/more special than the cube game that was made last week

olive hedge
naive thistle
#

Numerous people are just happy they get to play it and they enjoy it

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But a large majority of people keep comparing it to minecraft and making themselves unhappy as a result

reef fox
# olive hedge long term
  • Modding support, the LITERAL thing that made Minecraft the most popular game in the world
  • Better world gen
  • Better customization
  • Better creative tools
  • Machina/Animation creation
  • In-Game Asset editor

If you say Hytale long term won't be a competitor to Minecraft that just tells me that you don't really get what made Minecraft popular in the first place tbh

#

Not as an insult but more like "yeah, these things were the golden lottery ticket for MC and Hytale does everything better of course it's going to destroy their monopoly"

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If you say currently it can't, well ofc not it's in early access and it's competing with a game that had the past decade and a half to do whatever they wanted

river dragon
reef fox
naive thistle
#

It's adventuristic but so are many other games

reef fox
#

That being said, Minecraft realism is basically non existent, "hunger" as a mechanic is a nuisance not an interactive gameplay element 😬

naive thistle
#

I really wish minecrafts hunger got an overhaul

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Give me a reason to make different foods

reef fox
naive thistle
#

Rather then just eating golden carrots or pork

reef fox
naive thistle
#

I feel like hytale will have something with their food that makes it worth eating different ones but it's hard to say at this point

reef fox
olive hedge
reef fox
#

Then again, as you pointed out, emphasis on adventure, not realism

naive thistle
#

Which is just rude

olive hedge
#

like pewdiepie is the biggest youtuber ever not because his content is the highest effort in existence but because he was one of the very first
so 99% of people that try to do what he did end up being forgettable

river dragon
naive thistle
#

So people flocked to him because of that as well

reef fox
# olive hedge i kinda get what you mean but none of the things you just listed are recent brea...

Yeahhh everything is going to be compared to it because it was first and overwhelmingly popular. Its like how any battle royale gets compared to Fortnite or Apex Legends, or COD warzone. First impressions matter heavily, and people will compare everything to what they understand which is, in this case, Minecraft. Socially/culturally it's a huge climb uphill

That being said, I don't have a particular loyalty to any game. I'm passionate about Hytale because it is, as far as I can tell, a strict upgrade to MC. Thinking about it objectively, long-term, I can't think of a single thing that Minecraft would be able to do better. Like, not a single one.
One of Minecraft's biggest X factors was the fact that if you didn't like anything you could change it. Techno modpack, steampunk modpack, magic modpack, better combat, etc etc etc. So what happens when you take a game with a better foundation and better modding capability?

It's been 11 days and there's already 2.6k mods on curse forge. In the first week a 15 year old kid ran Windows 95 in Hytale. Like, genuinely, I can't think of any one thing Minecraft does better

naive thistle
#

I think what will make hytale good is how the devs react to the community

#

It's not hard to see that mojang doesn't really listen to community feedback anymore

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Which I assume is because of microsoft

reef fox
olive hedge
#

i mean i know nothing about modding whatsoever so if your main point is that hytale is better because it's easier to mod then sure
but ive never installed a mod for any game in my life so of course that isnt a plus for me

naive thistle
#

Man your missing out

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How have you never downloaded mods

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Like they don't even need to be ones that add content

olive hedge
#

i mean i could go through the headache of figuring it out so i can add peter griffin to fallout, laugh at it for 12 seconds and then go through the headache of removing him or i could just enjoy the game how it was originally designed

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to me all mods fall into the categories of pointless, cheating, or not fitting very well with the source

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or like 90% of mods

naive thistle
#

Yeah but that's a mod that adds content, there are mods for example that fix performance, fix broken quests or instances depending on the game, add in cut content that was intended but was removed for time, etc etc

reef fox
naive thistle
#

Hytale modding is so nice because I can literally turn it on and off from world selection, I don't need to load up a different instance or worry about deleting mods out of the folder

reef fox
naive thistle
#

Heck there's also mods that adds full voice acting for all dialog in the game when there was previously none

reef fox
naive thistle
#

Like yeah like thief says I'm not going to get mad at you for not using them, but still surprised that there are some you havnt

#

I typically avoid most mods until I've played through a game a good few times because I too enjoy wanting to experience it in its base form first as well like you do

reef fox
reef fox
#

At least play the game as intended before crafting your own adventure lmao

#

But yeah, I really wanna emphasize that I'm not some cringe fanboy who's gonna be like "grrr Hytale best game in the world" like, no, it's very much so a WIP, but I'm just doing my best to look at it long-term. I look forward to the maps, servers, and worlds that people are gonna make with the insane freedom

full vigil
random marten
supple rapids
#

If a game's entire premise is to kill another game, doesn't that just mean it doesn't have its own identity? I thought folks said Hytale wasn't supposed to be a minecraft clone.

steady stratus
chrome acorn
river dragon
#

what the actual shit.

full vigil
naive thistle
#

Which means this being a fruma update is just bait

#

The actual update will be revamping the ocean and fruma will come four years from now

chrome acorn
# full vigil

im gonna be honest i thought the sarcasm was obvious but from how many people are taking this shit seriously i guess not

dark hinge
#

Deal Buy the Money Guy

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(not stolen btw)

river dragon
#

every theater employee's former worst nightmare behind the storm's remnant, chicken jockey.

reef fox
# chrome acorn

Something something any three arbitrary points on a graph can make a perfect circle no matter what

torn olive
#

U sure?

#

Try putting a circle through 3 points that are in a straight line

normal crown
torn olive
reef fox
torn olive
#

I guess, but wouldn't there technically have to be a curvature, be it infinitely small or not?

torn olive
#

As a matter of fact I believe I am right here, as this is a straight line it can either be a tangent or a secant, thus either having one or two, but not more, shared points

honest vortex
#

The real statement is any 3 points that don't share a coordinate

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Which is true

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You can make a circle out of any 3 points that aren't part of the same line

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Acceptable, have a nice day!

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btw you can use this template freely

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its back

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poor crop when i posted it the first time 🥀

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my very funny completely non-shitpost meme ShisuiSmirk

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Two Royal Reports are all we need to shatter the Fruman Walls.

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i think i'm going to give up on seriously trying to conspiracy-theorise on this and start making dumb memes until someone smarter than me figures it out

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the nice thing about making these memes is that they don't take up a lot of brainpower

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is that enough shitposting for tonight or do i do a bit more...

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alright goodnight

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I don’t know what happened to my sense of humor I have been laughing for the past ten minutes

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I HATE THE COLD I'M TIRED OF SNOW, NO YOU CANNOT JUST PUT ON MORE CLOTHES THE COLDER IT GETS. IT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT'S COLD ENOUGH

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