#memes

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sick abyss
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Besides who's to say the devs share your mindset on it, maybe they did not foresee how the difficulty turned out

gusty vale
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Too many people are allowed to make podcasts these days istg

fading zealot
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I'm not claiming to be an emissary of Team Cherry

sick abyss
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Player feedback is important, we know dlc is planned so changes are probably on the table

fading zealot
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I just believe that there is no wrong difficulty, only wrong difficulty balancing

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To me complaining that HK is too hard is the same as complaining that, idk, Animal Crossing is too easy

sick abyss
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Without context I agree

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But it matters if you know what you're getting into

fading zealot
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that's fair enough

sick abyss
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Many people were unpleasantly surprised by the difficulty for good reason

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Is your pfp baba

fading zealot
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I think the most likely explanation is what you mentioned before, they might just straight up not know any better

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it's a tiny dev team

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sick abyss
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3 people one of which is a coder💀

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1 does boss design

fading zealot
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pretty sure Pellen is a coder too

sick abyss
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Maybe idk

fading zealot
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just less so than Vine

sick abyss
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Oh btw

fading zealot
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lmao

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well, you know who to complain to

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I'm pretty sure Pellen is a coder too, since HK started out as a gamejam game made by him and Gibson

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can't make a game without a coder

summer bramble
main flax
summer bramble
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@coarse arch

coarse arch
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cmosier eleven

obtuse peak
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theres... a cap.?

visual trellis
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the world being finite, it makes sense that even those things cannot be infinite (it takes server space after all)

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but I ve never heard of someone hitting it

smoky gyro
fading zealot
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be the change you want to see in the world

smoky gyro
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saw this sign in luxembourg the other day

wanton sparrow
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Silksong was apparently balanced around returning players who already had Hollow Knight skills but I think they went overboard and made it too difficult

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Not purely because of enemy design, but also other decisions like boss runbacks, the amount of currency you can easily obtain without grinding, etc.

sudden umbra
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I’m 30 hours in and I can tell you those 7 years went somewhere, and not to balancing or playtesting

It went to the sheer SIZE of this game

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I thought I was done but no there’s apparently 8 AREAS THAT ARE TOTALLY OPTIONAL

fading zealot
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that sounds about right

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for a sequel

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HK also had major areas that you could just literally never come across and that's one of the things I absolutely loved about that game

wanton sparrow
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Hollow Knight already had some weird or poor balancing choices that were ironed out after updates so it’s not shocking that Silksong has some weird choices as well

fading zealot
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true

wanton sparrow
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I think the issues with early game balancing and currency obtainment as well as boss runbacks will be addressed eventually, as those things were addressed in HK

fading zealot
wanton sparrow
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Kingdoms Edge, Abyss, Queen’s Gardens, The Hive

fading zealot
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yeah

sudden umbra
fading zealot
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lmao nice

sudden umbra
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Like the hive in Hollow knight was prolly the only area like this

wanton sparrow
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The Hive still had signs of it existing

fading zealot
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hive is hinted at

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yeah

wanton sparrow
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Like Bees being around the area, and you can see into the hive via the background of some rooms

sudden umbra
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Idk if these places are true ending Important or not yet though

fading zealot
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there's a shaking floor that's very easy to come across and it leads you to an isolated chamber in the hive that shows you that other chambers exist

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so it can prompt you to start searching for walls

sudden umbra
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So far their only purpose is a singular Boss fight each

wanton sparrow
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One of the biggest rooms in Kingdom’s Edge that also houses quickslash also shows the Hive exists

fading zealot
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oh yeah true

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well, it shows you that bees exist, and asks you to deduce that therefore a hive should exist

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sudden umbra
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Oh also (spoilers) ||MERCHANTS CAN DIE??? WHERE DO I GET CURVECLAW NOW?||

sudden umbra
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I’ve gone back to the major areas dozens of times

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(Hunters March is STILL a pain tho)

summer bramble
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Hollow knight has way too many bugs to be enjoyable

wanton sparrow
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It has spiders in it too

naive thistle
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She's telling players to stop being bad

wanton sparrow
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She doesn’t say it in Silksong sadly

full vigil
naive thistle
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The difficulty in silk song is higher then hollow knight

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But also they give the players so eo many build varieties to choose from

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As well as synergies between charms and tools

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It's not nearly as linear as hollow knight

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graceful trench
gusty vale
# dusk trail

funny how this is default hollow knight and not silksong

jolly egret
gusty vale
jolly egret
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❤️‍🩹

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fixed it for ya!

gusty vale
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woah..

naive thistle
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Squirley spent her silk to mend you shadow

gusty vale
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Damn...

gusty vale
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oh well

winged edge
gusty vale
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😭

naive thistle
rancid shell
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you should enter grain silos from the top

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this is a very safe activity

naive thistle
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Grain silos make great swimming pools

sudden umbra
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I thought I was done with Silksong

I was horribly wrong

naive thistle
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The end is never the end is never the end is never the

jolly egret
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well i feel like im done because i cant fucking find where to go but i know theres so much more content

dusk trail
smoky gyro
cerulean cove
torn olive
uneven steeple
jolly egret
cerulean cove
jolly egret
cerulean cove
jolly egret
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im outta keys

cerulean cove
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Sad

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Buy one from the thiefling

thin lynx
shell sparrow
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naive thistle
cerulean cove
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true

elfin turret
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The secret walls aren't that hard to find

sudden umbra
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Yeah there’s an entire giant quest hidden in a secret zone with no indicator

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In an area you are not likely to return to after getting the required movement upgrade btw

red smelt
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Just hit every wall smh

sudden umbra
random marten
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It is only a matter of time

torn olive
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The 8th plague…

surreal otter
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nothing happened on september 8th

ashen knoll
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Sept 8th 2022 was an uneventful day

river dragon
astral wyvern
# smoky gyro

Discord: adds threads
Server admins: I don't see anything

olive hedge
thin lynx
upper yarrow
thin lynx
rancid shell
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boo hoo your favorite fictional character died

sage flint
shell sparrow
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worldly field
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i hope having your discord server advertised at the end of memes doesn't become a thing

upper yarrow
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I FORGOT THE QUEEN DIED

dusty kernel
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People of maltic are stashing some stuff

naive thistle
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I can recognize a child's voice from how many scream within video game lobbies

dusk trail
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that is certainly a child

ashen knoll
random marten
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💀

smoky gyro
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this was 3 years ago???

fair whale
full vigil
fair whale
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cant believe this is how i found out she died, good heavens

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this simply cannot be

worldly field
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Off with your head

dusk trail
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hello chat… it is i, Queen Elizabeth II.

river coral
naive thistle
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Tbh she lived a pretty good life

dark aspen
fair whale
naive thistle
honest vortex
naive thistle
supple rapids
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Legit McDonalds has the worse food poisoning track record for me

dusk trail
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even if it’s terrible quality

wanton sparrow
reef fox
naive thistle
surreal otter
upper yarrow
edgy forge
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She was 29

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Also the caretakers in those farms are not some amateurs who would accidentally compromise the health of the horse to unreasonable extents

graceful trench
upper yarrow
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Cause I thought horses lived longer than 30 years

rancid shell
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30 years seems pretty average in terms of horse lifespan

upper yarrow
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Ok

naive thistle
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Old Billy was much cooler then this 29 year old horse who could never win

reef fox
pastel scarab
shell sparrow
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random marten
# reef fox

Ok but that gurl with the glasses has her head turned 180 degrees

reef fox
random marten
reef fox
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@random marten how are you liking Silk Song

random marten
reef fox
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And what are your thoughts and opinions on various game producers encouraging people not to play it or buy it and saying it's an unfair to the gaming genre and whatnot

random marten
reef fox
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rancid shell
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3/4 of the cat in owl nest videos ive seen had something akin to "generated with ai" in the description and the fourth one was ambiguous so I'm inclined to agree

rugged ore
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Why it got that dumpy

sick abyss
astral wing
ashen knoll
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CHOCOLATE!

pearl scaffold
torn olive
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Huh

long delta
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WHAT

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how is that not allowed

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just a funny meme

dusk trail
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was charlie kirk an oracle

rancid shell
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with any luck, this'll be a turning point for the usa

upper yarrow
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Not to stir the pot, but I have literally never heard of this man until today

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Dunno if it’ll really effect anything

runic goblet
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probably doesnt belong here regardless

nova bison
# shell sparrow https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/412373201063247873/1414297118918709268/55...

If anyone is curious this is an actual song Kurt Cobain wrote and preformed
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElYUWnvKFfA&list=RDElYUWnvKFfA&start_radio=1

Provided to YouTube by Universal Music Group

Beans · Kurt Cobain

Montage Of Heck: The Home Recordings

℗ 2015 The End of Music, LLC, under exclusive license to Universal Music Enterprises, a Division of UMG Recordings, Inc.

Released on: 2015-11-13

Executive Producer, Producer: Brett Morgen
Composer Lyricist, Producer, Recording Producer: ...

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shell sparrow
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random marten
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I’ve never seen someone so radiant

naive thistle
obtuse peak
mossy yarrow
astral wing
lucid plank
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for those who need to hear, charlie kirk being shot isnt a meme, keep that to yourself, it’s graphic and serious

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Borderline gore content

dusk trail
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i found it pretty funny in an ironic way because he said some gun violence is acceptable to keep the second amendment in place

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sad his kids and the other innocent people there had to see that tho </3

ashen knoll
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So understandable

summer bramble
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cmon

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it's better than that!

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it's the best show

ashen knoll
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REAL

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it's so good

reef fox
reef fox
shell sparrow
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honest vortex
dense onyx
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use this to fight in an argument

torn olive
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You wish they would…

torn olive
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More like that actually…

dense onyx
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ok...

supple rapids
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Please move all debates to the debate guild hall

viral dagger
fallow gulch
dark aspen
mossy yarrow
uneven steeple
random marten
limpid flower
uneven steeple
uneven steeple
plain stag
carmine sky
# honest vortex

my senses are tingling. There is something about this game art

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I just can't prove it yet

shell sparrow
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random tiger
shell sparrow
ashen knoll
supple rapids
ashen knoll
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nemesis system :c

supple rapids
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I fucking hate AI autocorrect so much holy fuck it turned patent to parent

ashen knoll
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Lmao

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I didnt even notice

ashen knoll
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Like that pokemon!

upper yarrow
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But they also just got the patent for “having the player climb aboard a terrestrial or flying creature, and controlling their movement.”

Aka MOUNTS

They made Mounts in videogames illegal

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I hate them

thin lynx
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its like dnd all over again

supple rapids
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Technically most things in the games industry is illegal if you go by patents

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Nintendo isn't really unique in that regard, nor is it the worst offender

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Also I just ripped the google keyboard out of my phone and replaced it with the simplest one I could find along with an old school red underline spellcheck

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Sweet relief

random marten
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Eco friendly cup

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torn olive
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Well it was technically a few years ago, but…🤷‍♂️

worthy axle
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doctors, get ready to get kids with seizures and epilepsy on your hospitals. I'm sure you will profit a lot from this

torn olive
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What is that?

worthy axle
# torn olive What is that?

virtual boy was an old nintendo console which also was one of the first attempts to make VR games. The idea was good, however the execution was poorly done since the machine could only render one color (red)

worthy axle
sudden umbra
# supple rapids Technically most things in the games industry is illegal if you go by patents

Yeah
There’s a metric ton of vague patents in the video games industy, afaik its to discourage people from trying to patent things themselves after a game’s release and then sue the company like what happened in the 70s
As a matter of principle most companies don’t enforce them out of good faith. If you wanna be mad at someone, be mad at Warner Bros who patented the evolving miniboss system from Shadow Over Mordor and actively enforces it, or Namco who, even though its expired now, still goes after people for loading screen minigames

torn olive
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Loading screen minigames are actually genious; wouldn't like to share that either

upper yarrow
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What the hell was that second to last one

earnest meteor
jolly egret
runic bolt
summer bramble
upper yarrow
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No thats the last one

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I mean the one before that

dusk trail
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interesting.

reef fox
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Or just a typical 4channer

naive thistle
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Some people are into dolls

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And some people are in dolls

dark aspen
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Some of these dolls are representing teenage characters from anime...

shell sparrow
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tawdry belfry
dusk trail
fading zealot
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I hope your days from now on become slightly better than before

graceful trench
reef fox
dark aspen
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I guess I should have guessed...

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But I prefer to look at the good ones, like Frieren, where there is an actual theme and not just frolicking.

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thin lynx
jolly egret
thin lynx
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problem? like the hit island chain inazuma from genshin impact? genshin mentioned.

red smelt
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wishes? like in silksong? silksong mentioned.

dense onyx
wispy pecan
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knight? like from deltarune? deltarune mentioned.

honest vortex
naive thistle
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That's why we don't look too closely at some people

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They are a tad too unsettled in the brain

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But yeah like singu said, so much anime, especially alot of recent anime bends towards the idea of wish fulfillment

coral surge
earnest robin
green haven
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Shaving? Like in DST? Don't Starve Together mentioned

naive thistle
midnight nest
naive thistle
torn olive
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*rr

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surely you must have meant 'furry business'

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https://t.co/cvD8qhkhXh

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silver escarp
worldly field
honest vortex
worldly field
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It was not included with Mario galaxy in the 3d saga which was ALSO 60$ for 3 games

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Getting a port of a game they excluded at full retail game price is a bad deal which was my point

honest vortex
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Personally I'm buying it. Never got the 3d all stars pack, and I've never played 1

worldly field
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I hope you enjoy it if you’re getting it, it’s a great game

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I’m just not happy with the pricing of a port when it should’ve been included in the last pack

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But I’m not trying to bait anything lol

honest vortex
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I liked 2 back in the day. But my disc for mg2 just doesn't work anymore so getting access to it again is going to be nice

worldly field
honest vortex
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Just seemed like classic "Nintendo bad" "re release L" comment

fathom willow
honest vortex
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I'm not even really rebuying it. I'm replacing my no longer functioning disc

worldly field
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I mean.

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If you have the console you can rebuy it for like 10$

fathom willow
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i like nintendo and i agree they have dogshit practices

worldly field
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I have my Wii games but when I moved the truck company stole a ton of our stuff including my console

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So cant really play it

honest vortex
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Galaxy 2 discs in proper condition cost nearly $50 now

worldly field
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Dam I should sell mine lmao

honest vortex
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Scalping really gone crazy

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If you have a disc with no major scratches and the original case, it's $50 if not more

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Unopened copies are like $100

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I kind of miss collecting physical games especially retro

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It's just too expensive now

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Ever since covid

worldly field
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I just checked it’s like 20$ for case manual and disc lol

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Perfect never opened costs more obv but like

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If you just want to play it and have a Wii ur chilling

honest vortex
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$20 is pretty slick. Every shop I go to here is selling $40 minimum and they're not exactly in great shape

worldly field
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Multiple like this

honest vortex
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Yeah and if you ask to see the disc they don't respond or refuse to show you

worldly field
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That’s fine, because eBay does refunds for broken discs

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Source, I had to do it

honest vortex
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Fr?

worldly field
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If it says working and you get it scratched up you can tell eBay you want a refund

honest vortex
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I've never bothered taking a risk on things over $10

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That's cool tho, and eBay just wanted proof of it assume?

worldly field
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You have 30 days to do it

honest vortex
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Ye orc

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Orc

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Ofc

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AI autocorrect is aids

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What goober is typing yes, orc and not yes, ofc

worldly field
worldly field
honest vortex
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It changes whole words into garbage

worldly field
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I had to make a manual autocorrect setting to change WHat to what

lucid stag
jolly egret
sage flint
thin lynx
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libraries!!!! i love them

dusk trail
dense thicket
worldly field
tacit patio
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to be fair

mossy yarrow
solar rock
summer bramble
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I've got a new threat! if anybody is pissing me off I will just scan their pfp and beat it up in Face Raiders
https://youtu.be/FMfxcWvkhX0?

High quality rip of the Face Raiders OST. Took almost 1 year to finish the OST since they were sequenced. (midi + soundfont)
There may be slight accuracy issues however.

Composer: Shogo Sakai
Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLUAmK4xTPU4GqZWTHBDegDD8aPdY8OwqU
Platform: 3DS

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lucid stag
coral surge
# mossy yarrow

This spoiled invincible season 1 for me, when it first released

ashen knoll
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This is so disturbing

dusk trail
dusk trail
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nah i’m good

worldly field
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outfreaked

jolly egret
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weak

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nobody outfreaks squirley

gusty vale
dusk trail
gusty vale
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no

jolly egret
dusk trail
jolly egret
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anyways i learned that every wheatley line is downloadable on their own on the portal wiki

river escarp
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I LOVE HIM BRO WHY

fathom willow
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who is this

naive thistle
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Looks like he shouldn't have let himself get shot though

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Quite silly of him

river escarp
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It’s my SHAYLA

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also it’s the outsiders

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Poor ponyboy just “nah.. “ proceeds to collapse

naive thistle
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I have zero understanding of anything of what you just said

astral wing
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thin lynx
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i missed one which i was sorta torn on so thats basically a W

olive hedge
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1 is obvious because people hardly ever use the word locate in casual conversation

dense thicket
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well maybe you don't, simpleton

willow gorge
muted edge
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@heady depot

heady depot
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?????

raven light
digital gorge
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<@&268142859327242242> scam spotted

random tiger
dense onyx
# random tiger

I mean that can go for the most recent wynncraft update too

red smelt
# random tiger

Maybe Nintendo should give me a job making all of their unused games available for purchase on new consoles

dense onyx
dire warren
mortal hinge
upper yarrow
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||The Slab||

dusk trail
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mizuki my goat

dark aspen
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Wait wait wait! Since when did Miku have a movie!?

dire warren
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A year ago in japan and like 3 months ago globally

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but it’s not miku specifically, it’s a project sekai movie so don’t go in with the wrong expectations it is for fans of the game first and foremost

dusk trail
upper yarrow
fading zealot
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but frankly so is the "nintendo is evil because they jacked up the prices"

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it's not evil, it's a financial decision

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and whether it's a good financial decision is dependent on you

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don't like games costing $80? don't buy em, that's exactly what I did

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if customer responsibility hadn't been shredded to dust over the past several decades due to bad economic education and incentive structures, nintendo would've quickly seen their sales plummet

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you support what you buy

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and they can only keep doing it if people keep buying

reef fox
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Also they are evil anyways it's not just their pricing it's their aggressive lawsuits, patents fights, and attempts at strangling the video game industry, not to mention the prison slavery they take advantage of

dusk trail
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the pricing is bad but it’s a megacorp what do you expect

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it’s all the other stuff that makes them evil

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like announcing dlcs before the game getting said dlc is even out

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or suing literally anyone for anything

gusty vale
honest compass
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she just called me dear chat, am i cooked?

earnest meteor
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respectfully

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seek therapy

honest compass
keen root
earnest meteor
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idfk

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ask thepurpleemerald

naive thistle
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Their jobs are already shitty enough

honest compass
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dusk trail
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well

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she deserves to rot

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ava and dullahan deserve better

supple rapids
dusk trail
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people are stupid as shit

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can’t blame them if they’re not taught tho

keen root
# dusk trail ava deserves better

Judging from how (spoilers ahead) ||Lari continuously dug a pit for the entire province to fall into from a mistake which could have been fixed thousands of years ago... and with Ava actually realizing her mistake the MOMENT she created the huge plant.|| yeah definitely.

sudden umbra
gusty vale
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gusty vale
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good man

honest vortex
elfin turret
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Living is worth doing but by god if I do it well

reef fox
dusk trail
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no one goes through life without scars

true lily
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Nobody treats a car like that cause that’s ai bro

tacit patio
true lily
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I just said what you just said car

tacit patio
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oh yeah mb

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true lily
olive hedge
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random tiger
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fading zealot
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people however are largely economically illiterate nowadays

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I've legit seen dozens of people who complain about amazon being awful to its workers, while routinely ordering amazon

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it doesn't take a genius to realise that amazon doesn't have any money you don't give it

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earnest meteor
# gusty vale

Yk the best part about this is that switch statements either wouldn’t work here OR they have it programmed wrong rn

dark aspen
# random tiger

I KNOW I SAID IT LACKED SOMETHING, BUT I DIDN'T MEAN THAT!!!

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cat disagrees

visual trellis
# fading zealot it doesn't take a genius to realise that amazon doesn't have any money you don't...

It used to work when society wasn't centered around draining wealth from whoever you can as hard as you can no matter the consequences.
But since now people are born into that system and are taught that other ways of doing things than excessive capitalism makes them unable to properly understand how bad the system is or how to find ways to tone it down or even break it down to non hostile levels. Corporations weren't as strong as nations once upon a time. If you want to live a life that goes somewhere today corps make sure that you have to get through them. Amazon is a good example, it works because it s so big that it has become easier than finding the products in more local specialized shops and thus has killed most its competition. People that are not the 1% struggle too much in their lives already to have the time and money to "exercise customer responsibility" as you say. Moreso as wealth becomes increasingly monolithic with the wealth of the richest exploding in the last 5 years while the poorer are even worse off than before in a context of inflation in many countries

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Individuals don't necessarily have the ability to gather in great enough groups to push back because everyone has their own battle, it doesn't make the battle any less legitimate though and you shouldn't discard it by principle of "you buy from the corps you criticize so your point is entirely moot by default"

earnest meteor
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here, since there are no elifs, it basically keeps adding on

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for the first level, it adds those things
then for the second level, it adds a bird
third adds moving thing
so on and so forth

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switch statements jump to whichever case is true

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you could write this to work with switch statements but the way it is right now is actually far more readable

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now on the other hand

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oh ffs i didnt read it right

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it's is not >

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icky python

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yeah nah the real bad part here is python

dark aspen
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I DIDN'T SEE THAT!!!

fading zealot
# visual trellis It used to work when society wasn't centered around draining wealth from whoever...

You really don't have to be within the 1% to exercise customer responsibility. I'm firmly from a lower-middle class family and I never once ordered amazon since several years ago when I heard what they are doing. In my opinion, it's just a cope, and this kind of thinking perpetuates the problem. No one HAS TO order amazon, and even if poor people who are genuinely struggling just pick the best financial options available to them and that includes amazon, amazon would still be in ruins if just the middle class abandoned them.

Your point is not entirely moot by default if you buy from those whom you criticize. The corporation is still doing bad things. It remains true. You just have to be cognizant of the fact that you are sponsoring the behaviour you're criticizing.

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You're absolutely correct that life is harder. Inflation caused mainly by money-printing to finance comically oversized deficits erodes your savings and prevents you from moving up in life. Exorbitant fees, licenses and regulations prevent you from starting your own business to own the produce of your own labour. Corporations lobby for restrictions to kill competition, e.g. Amazon lobbying for minimum wage increases totally because they're really nice people who care about good working conditions and not because local businesses cannot afford it so they can grab their market share. All the while we have so many laws on the books that lifelong trained lawyers cannot comprehend even a small percentage of it, and people increasingly, outside especially egregious cases, act like "if it's not illegal, it's not evil".

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But all of that, in my opinion, doesn't excuse anyone from not doing the right thing. Don't give money to evil people. We're moving towards corporatism (historical definition), but we're not there yet, we have choices. Besides ethics, which alone would have been a good enough reason, it's important to understand that giving money to wannabe monopolists and restricting people's freedoms is exactly what leads to corporatism. The time may come where you are literally forced to buy amazon. Don't make it happen.

supple rapids
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Yall really should start the debate guild

random tiger
edgy forge
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At any rate I believe customer activism that forgets that its own goal should only ever be to support greater forces of change is more harmful than positive

ripe storm
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I feel like legislative action is the only way that Nintendo would ever change their practices, as people will never stop buying their games and consoles, even if they raised the price even more

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but even then the law is usually on Nintendo's side

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so theres not much you can do about it

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:)

edgy forge
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Well if the law cant reach a party involved then youve got far bigger problems than causes for activism

fading zealot
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the main issue with legislative action is the people doing it

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who are usually just given money by corpos to make exemptions for them, or sometimes outright given money by corporations to make specific regulations in the first place

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politicians are an interest group, and their interests don't often align with the general public

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both customer responsibility and legislative action have, in theory, the capacity to shut down any undesirable corporate behaviour

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customer responsibility has the barriers of economic illiteracy and mild inconveniences to the consumers to be effective

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legislative action has the barrier of legislators being paid millions to do the exact opposite of what we'd like them to do

simple spade
fading zealot
edgy forge
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Its of course no surprise customer activism also has its roots in the states

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And I mean we can compare hypothetical worlds where variables bend to our wills, and say that any option is possible in theory

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But at some point it becomes necessary to make a distinction between how reasonable it is to expect each 'theory' to function (generally) as epected

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For example, the world will never turn vegan. It is, however, very much possible to outlaw certain cruel practices of animal handling taking place in megafarms

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Why? Because laws of this spirit exist, all over the world. Yet no population has ever come together to cease eating meat for ethical treatment of animals

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Well okay you can maybe make the case for hindus but itll be very difficult to argue for the primary reason behind the spread of hinduism being an animal rights concern

dusk trail
sick abyss
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(People overreacting doesn't mean not buying their stuff due to the price increase isn't completely valid)

supple rapids
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I find the way people talk about Nintendo like they're actively satan pretty funny, personally speaking. When you get right down to it, they're not particularly unethical as far as companies go they just seem to have very particular opinions about copyright.

fading zealot
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politicians have bad incentives simply by virtue of being politicians, the circumstance of being a politician in any variant of liberal democracy guarantees them

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and as such if any given politician actually doesn't take lobbying money, or promises of cushy job positions after retirement from the parliament, they are doing it purely out of the goodness of their own heart

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needless to say, expecting everyone in charge to be virtuous people who would consistently act against their own self-interest despite relatively little transparency is no way to run a country

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and yet that's exactly what we're doing, and people are scrambling to find reasons why everything is falling apart ||(obviously this isn't the only reason but it's a big one)||

fading zealot
graceful trench
fading dirge
summer bramble
fading zealot
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I haven't actually played wynncraft in a while

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iirc they nerfed conduit of spirit and reworked acrobat somewhat since then

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iirc some people were really pissy about propeller hat being suboptimal so I just leaned into it and nicked myself after it

fading dirge
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i can fix the tree myself

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imma just keep using nirvana ig

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rip ws

summer bramble
fading dirge
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its a pvp server tho

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for 1.21 mc

summer bramble
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I need to check that out

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I want to loose hair

fading dirge
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ok

summer bramble
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Thanks, now im bald!

fading dirge
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np

fading zealot
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in so doing, they decreased acro's viability by 0% and its fun by like 50%

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tears were shed, shadestepper profile was started

sudden umbra
thin lynx
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what

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lowkey am i weird for thinking this looks like a terrible time

random tiger
naive thistle
cerulean cove
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Oh it's a banned word, lmao

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The joke is "sweet home alabama"

edgy forge
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Though in my experience, in most cases, weighing the actions of politicians purely on a"personal gain or virtue" axle is somewhat misleading, since party politics and ideological struggles occupy a huge portion of their motivations

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For example Itll be difficult to get a green party elected official to vote against their party interests but significantly easier to get a conservative guy whos ideological core is entirely different to vote on the same issue in a desired way

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From a lobbyist perspective

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In any case i believe its very difficult to argue that change via organized movement of the people in everyday consumer behavior is anywhere even close to being as effective as pressure towards legislative action

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I feel like that kind of viewpoint is simultaneously incredibly nihilistic about the people we elect and incredibly overoptimistic about the willingness of ordinary people to agree on issues

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If anything I feel like this kind of thinking serves huge corpos far more than the common good since it helps them skirt responsibility by moving it onto consumers

reef fox
random marten
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they should be recycling

reef fox
# random marten Tbh a lot of people don’t recycle too

Right, but to act like the individual person who doesn't recycle is at fault when the majority of "recycled material" doesn't actually get recycled anyways is intentionally misleading and is the intended outcome for CEOs and businesses to get away with pollution by blaming the individuals

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naive thistle
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And I'm extremely suspicious of the recycling system

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At one point when we brought in recycle, we'd have it separated into its proper categories so they could take it in separately

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But then they decided that that's no longer required and they just toss it all together saying they'll sort it out later

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Would it not be more sensible to have it all separate to begin with rather then trying to sort it out later

supple rapids
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The issue got a lot worse when China stopped allowing shipments of recycling iirc as they were responsible for quite a lot of the sorting work

naive thistle
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It's more logical to keep having people bring it in already sorted

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It's would be a pain in the ass to do it afterwards

supple rapids
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Efficiency for a process that doesnt happen huntersigh

naive thistle
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Your system still needs to be efficient even if it's fake

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Like imagine if you throw glass jars in there, they are going to break

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Now you have a bunch of glass shards to try and theoretically separate

tawny robin
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wdym, if the system doesn't exist there is no reason for it to be efficient

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random tiger
normal nymph
naive thistle
willow gorge
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Ascended*

fading zealot
# edgy forge I feel like that kind of viewpoint is simultaneously incredibly nihilistic about...

I think exactly the opposite - for the past several decades we've been incredibly overoptimistic about politicians and incredibly nihilistic about the agency of regular people.

Again, we've created such a monstrous number of regulations that trained veteran lawyers can barely comprehend a small fraction of it all, and the several decades of this practice yielded basically negative results. If you recognize that the system is not working, you have two choices:

  1. Believe that the rules are still too lax and the corpos are monopolizing in spite of the government's best efforts, in which case your preferred course of action is to advocate for rapidly ramping up regulations into millions upon millions of pages and giving immense power to the government, or awakening your inner Mussolini and just taking over the corpos by force after they monopolize and nationalizing them
  2. Believe that the corpos and the government are largely on the same team, and they made most of the regulations to create insane fixed costs and restrictions to kill small business, prevent new business from starting up, and monopolize as fast as possible. In this case the natural course of action would be to stop trusting politicians, and bet on customer responsibility, while deregulating most industries especially by repealing the regulations the corpos lobbied for. This is my preferred option, because I won't believe for a second that Amazon lobbied for minimum wage increases because they "care about workers". There's dozens of millions of dollars that goes into the pockets of politicians every year to make them propose and vote like the corpos want them to, and if the rapidly increasing number of regulations tells us anything, it's that deregulation sure as hell isn't what the corporate money is paying for.
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There's technically but not really a third option, where you basically say that quantity isn't what matters and we just need a few GOOD regulations. Which is fair, and I agree, but I consider it kind of naive. Firstly, this belief would have you advocating for repealing most regulations anyway and only leaving the small number of good ones (so it's pretty much my position in a way), and secondly it trusts the politicians to pass good regulations, which is what we've been doing thus far and that's why we're here.

Either way, my main point is that the status quo that got us here is basically passing a crap ton of regulations, and if your idea of fixing the problem is just "let's continue regulating and pray it works this time", then I really don't wanna hear that I'm the pro-corporate one in the room. The status quo ain't working out for us, so I at least want to change the approach. I understand the push for a monstrously increased output of regulations and bureaucracy or the outright hostile takeover of industry - I don't think they are very good solutions, but I understand them. What I don't understand is this weirdly common belief that, essentially, we should just keep trying what we've been trying for decades, and it'll surely work this time.

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supple rapids
fading zealot
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fr

naive thistle
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Especially books

supple rapids
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Cool, ill go read a book and you can help head up the debate guild slugheadnod

naive thistle
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I was never into clubs

naive thistle
dense thicket
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burning the advisors is unlikely to net you positive points

edgy forge
# fading zealot I think exactly the opposite - for the past several decades we've been incredibl...

Oh boy, actual discussion? Damn. Let me go grab my computer so we can talk. Before I do though, i want to clarify a few things:

I'm a little unsure if youre questioning the role that law plays in social order in general, or worried that modern corporations are powerful enough so that they can de facto opt to not follow laws that are against their interests.

For the former, law is, and has been for at least the last 2k years in the west, the tool for ordering society - the very human rights we have are fundamentally a product of legislative work.

For the latter, no corporate entity in the modern world is more powerful than a state (barring obvious outliers), within said state's borders. Detailed legislation has and continues to heavily limit the behavior of corporate entities, even in the US (which you seem to be speaking of).

vast bluff
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the multinationals:

edgy forge
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Microsoft was literally just last year found to be in breach of EU antitrust laws

fading zealot
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they follow the law perfectly fine, it's just that the law basically says "this law doesn't apply to [criteria that maybe a few companies meet, conveniently including the company that paid politicians]"

torn olive
fading zealot
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you know, to support their grassroots campaigns! :)

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hell, in some cases that shit is overt, like in the US the FDA basically said "these are the three companies that can distribute insulin, if anyone else does it it's jail time!"

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so people imported it from Canada to avoid the oligopoly and the FDA went "NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!" and made importing insulin illegal

west arrow
fading zealot
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it made me pull my hair out how like 1 or 2 years ago people were talking about insulin prices again and they all went like "do we freeze the prices or do we nationalize the industry" like bro it's literally right there on the FDA's website that these are the state-sanctioned oligopolists how in the fucking world does everyone complain about monopolies and oligopolies and is just completely fine with that particular oligopoly (that also happens to cost a lot of lives yippee)

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sorry I went on a rant again mb

edgy forge
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Im taking what youre saying at face value on this one since I dont have the time to delve deep into the details of specific laws

edgy forge
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You seem to treat law as a process that evolves by compiling new legislation on top of the old

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While of course not entirely accurate either, Its still far more accurate to view the legislative process as a slow evolution of the same existing legislation

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Seems to me you're most dejected by the existence of lobbying, which I agree is an issue worth combatting. Although, it's pretty objectively easier to combat lobbying by restricting its legality as opposed to ignoring it and shifting the responsibility onto uninformed customers

dark aspen
sudden umbra
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I feel this whole thing is extremely similar to the reason why small cars don't exist in favor of SUVs anymore, and has the same solution

edgy forge
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I also disagree with how you view the interests of politicians. I believe its a pretty sizeable oversimplification to reduce the incentives acting upon politicians and elected officials to primarily money. Even in the US, which I take you're exclusively discussing, theres plenty of politicians that arent bought with money - Sanders comes to mind pretty fast, but im sure with a little research theres masses of others.

Of course, almost unique to the US, the barrier of entry to influencing legislation is expensive as hell, which makes many who hope to become elected officials look for sponsors and funding. To this extent youre not wrong in your assesment, but that doesnt mean youre better off focusing on buying less coca-cola and convincing people to boycott companies. To that end, a notable number of votes from people conscious of various ethical and humanitarian issues, aiming to elect ideal representatives, will achieve the same results much easier than a boycott, not to say you cant do both.

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Theres also plenty of ways to pressure existing lawmakers to influence legislation

random marten
edgy forge
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TLDR i think this is massively oversimplifying things to the point where you drive yourself into a corner when it comes to possible courses of action

torn olive
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I again have the feeling you're seeing the world a tad too positive

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You ain't wrong about most things, but it's still true that a great amount of people are still seeking more wealth with less fortunate ones suffering beneath them

edgy forge
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To simplify a little on my end while trying to avoid glaring inaccuracies:

  1. Carefully worded legislation can very clearly limit the workings of even the most powerful corporate entities - recent example: https://www.edpb.europa.eu/news/news/2023/12-billion-euro-fine-facebook-result-edpb-binding-decision_en

  2. You refer to a failed status quo, and I think theres a lot of inaccuracies there, but the topic is complex. A few notes:

-even in recent years there are plenty of rulings (yes, even some in the US) that specifically target monopolization and unlawful business practices by big corporations.

-A lot of the issues that prevent existing laws from being applied in practice stem from secondary issues like highly expensive legal fees to lawsuits or extremely long wait times at higher levels of courts

-Many laws are not specific enough to actually combat the issues they target. This is a combination of lots of issues like a lack of informed voter pressure on important legislation or the stupidly expensive barrier of entry to politics in the US tying many otherwise fairly principled people to the money of their donors.

Almost every issue brought up is something that requires people to care and be informed about their specifics in order to achieve positive change. This will not happen if people believe their primary responsibility as good citizens is to practice consumer activism, instead of organizing for political purposes - even just when it comes to voting in an informed manner.

My issue with consumer activism is exactly that. Its best used to support more meaningful action, and focusing on it over other responsibilities of being a citizen of a highly intricate political and legal system is something that results in more space for actors who rely on ordinary people not doing their political duties

edgy forge
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Theres actions we all can take to keep the rich and powerful in check, today far more than almost ever in human history

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Simply, I believe consumer activism is not something to focus on

torn olive
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I agree with that

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It's not even realistic, because politics and especially democracies have exactly such purpose, aim and means to act in such a way so boycott is more exhausting, complicatted and inefficient, thus making it far less likely to have an impact

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People who wouldn't bother educating themselves or to add to a better world certainly wouldn't bother to boycott either

random tiger
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holy text wall

dense onyx
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why are there politics in the memes channel

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send hampter

dusk trail
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95% of their revenue had to just come from people giving them money out of goodwill bc they never force you to pay

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there are alternatives that are better AND entirely free

reef fox
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Wholesome meme

graceful trench
supple rapids
reef fox
# dense onyx why are there politics in the memes channel

Because politics aren't just some abstract concept that people talk about as a hobby it's real life situations that drastically affect your quality of life, your rights, and even your safety, and people will (of course) have conversations about things that deeply affect them

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The exception being kids who don't know about it or the privileged who can afford to ignore it because it doesn't affect them

dense onyx
reef fox
dense onyx
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I understand that politics affect everything, but if I can avoid it and enjoy some memes, then I would prefer to do that

reef fox
dense onyx
reef fox
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I don't think people would like that tho

reef fox
naive thistle
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But in the meantime, sometimes people have discussions to fill the void

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As a result it doesnt really harm anyone

dense onyx
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and I can't stop them, and I won't try to

oak flicker
sudden umbra
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The discussion of politics in the memes channel of a minecraft mmo Discord is itself a meme

reef fox
gusty vale
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stay on topic or something

reef fox
naive thistle
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It stays closed

supple rapids
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I actually forgot about it monklaugh

thin lynx
supple rapids
# thin lynx Definitely a bad idea

the GTNH discord does it and ngl it actually works just fine. Sometimes people send memes with captions to communicate. But also like its fine the wynn staff can do whatevs they want

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not like we can change it monklaugh

thin lynx
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  • then you get ghostpings from people who don't know it's a thing
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And seeing the same convos but with a small image at the end of each message just spams more

supple rapids
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I'm ngl I've never once gotten a ghostping from the discord that does it

thin lynx
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And just because it's an image doesn't mean it's any better, you can spam the channel with images that blot out the funny (admittedly not a ton of it, this is a discord server) just as easily

thin lynx
supple rapids
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Not really the moderation style of this discord though, afaik

thin lynx
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And they probably wouldn't because technically memes are allowed in #memes

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Unless they have spam rules against posting like 40 memes in a row

reef fox
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Just in a very academic sense lmfao

supple rapids
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A chair is a thing where people rest and take a load off. In my academic essay I will now argue that discord is a chair.

full vigil
sudden umbra
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Me when politics in memes channel

reef fox
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(also imitation in this context means "they learn by seeing you do it" not braindead copying)

runic bolt
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Wynncraft dc should have a seperate text channel for off topic discussions

reef fox
edgy forge
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Its not a coincidence that this shit pops up in meme channels, memes and humor by their nature sometimes make us think about broad topics, and give rise to all sorts of thoughts and opinions. It wouldnt happen as organically in a discussion channel

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That being said theres absolutely nothing stopping us from shitposting WHILE having a discussion

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So I do think you have a point there

runic goblet
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lmfao

gusty delta
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I think the true objective answer is far more nuanced than any of us could hope to articulate…..

gusty delta
dark ravine
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Someone explain in wynncraft terms

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dusk trail
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stop being conspiracy theorists

reef fox
# dusk trail the fruman queen is innocent

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dusk trail
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sorry sir

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may the red sun rise over chinese taipei again

gray slate
reef fox
dusk trail
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damn

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he’s the entire bakery

normal crown
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What is HR even about

runic goblet
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there is no way this is real

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why is it real

dark aspen
reef fox
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@devout jay no way bro sent me a twitlonger about how politics make him uncomfortable and then blocked me so that I can't reply to him LMFAO

If you don't like the topic to conversation then leave the conversation. No one is forcing the phone to your eyes and obligating you to read everything that transpires in #memes dude

reef fox
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If the topic of conversation isn't insulting, degrading, insular, gatekeepy, or offensive, you don't magically have a "right" to not see it because something makes you uncomfortable. That's like saying I have the right to not hear about the rubber tree blight in south America because it makes me unhappy lol

reef fox
keen ginkgo
sudden umbra
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I got Ghost pinged

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Who has summoned me

reef fox
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Oh well. It's amusing more than anything

reef fox
sudden umbra
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Repost to delay Fruma further

reef fox
random marten
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Can we name drop

sudden umbra
honest vortex
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does politics not make everyone uncomfortable? Just kind of a cringe topic to bring up really anywhere

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unless we're talking about wanting to kill Lari, if that's politics I understand bringing it up

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death to Lari

elfin turret
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Alternatively

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Those who hide in the tunnels of the castle shan't be surprised when all they see is darkness.

austere stag
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let it go and do something else with your time

elfin turret
short star
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@grook is this true

drowsy yarrow
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to state it as an aphorism

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I don't dedicate energy to things that I cannot affect and that cannot affect me; doing so would only serve to drain my energy.

thin lynx
sudden umbra
torn olive
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Y'know the most ironic thing?

sudden umbra
astral wing
dark aspen
torn olive
# astral wing

I've heard the myth that you get magic powers if you stay single till your thirties, but maybe you get a Triceraptor instead?

ashen knoll
supple rapids
dense thicket
# supple rapids

NO
DON'T EAT IT
IT JUST WANTED TO FROG
IS THAT A CRIME
YOU MONSTER

edgy forge
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That being said we didnt talk politics, and certainly nothing polarizing

supple rapids
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The twist is that by bringing it up youve doomed the topic to never end

edgy forge
reef fox
supple rapids
reef fox
dark aspen
main flax
ashen knoll
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I dont know why but it will

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Def

dusk trail
dusk trail
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billions must live

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billions must thrive

sudden umbra
reef fox
dusk trail
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there are some valid things to debate about in politics, like what should the government spend our tax money on, or what should be our foreign policy

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but there are other things that shouldn’t at all be an argument, like “should [insert x and y minority here] have rights?”

dusky geyser
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sir this is a meme channel

dusk trail
edgy forge
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Crazy folks will not have in-depth discussion about actual policy

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Not to say it isnt completely valid to feel burdened by the chaotic nature of todays political world, and want an escape

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But its a bit unfair to ask people to stop talking about ANYTHING remotely related to social philosophy

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The nature of society(why so serious) is such that you can never escape the thoughts of other people completely, unless you isolate yourself entirely

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And theres like a morbillion pages of literature written on the negative consequences of doing exactly that

dusk trail
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MORBILLION????

graceful trench
honest vortex
full vigil
honest vortex
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Jtrillo is the only good poster here

full vigil
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facts

naive thistle
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We could probably dangle some keys in front of people's eyes and get the same enjoyment from them as they'd get from a jtrillo post

honest vortex
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Anything is more enjoyable than political rambling, regardless of if you think what's being talked about is controversial or completely agreed upon

reef fox
reef fox
sudden umbra
sudden umbra
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Especially on the internet, where no good will come of the discussion regardless

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No one here is going to look at a political discussion here and go “hey that person has a point lemme change my views” XD

reef fox
reef fox
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~~please [attack] me for doing this cloverrage ~~

sudden umbra