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bosses melt before your eyes
(with a winded bro in party)
i mean *a stupid winded bro
Gonna drop a small teaser of my Wynncraft upscaling project
Hello 🙂
Welcome to Wynncraft discord 👋
Hello there
i dont see enough of these messages
I wasnt here long enough, dont worry
How do you know when anni happens?
Once ur like level 95 is it worth it to keep doing quests and raids and lootruns or should u js scrapyard grind to 105
the shit bunpro teaches me is insane 💀
is that wynnic
japanese
oh
💀
they both speak in symbols smh
are there any wands that are good to buy? lvl 100-105
what archetype
close
i need to send my crush a i love you message in wynnic
if lightbender lament/monster is good
if arcanist use warp (fatal if youre poor lmao)
dang the p word still blocked
make it a mix of wynnic, high gavellian and demonic
arcanist
What's the best type of gun to own
meant smth alot cheaper xd like 10-100k range type thing
idk about non mythics
ig you can save up for a fatal
why is warp good? im quite nooby so i really wouldnt know but the stats dont seem that crazy? or is there smth im missing
for mage yeah
it is
It’s higher than fatal
I fw morph set heavy
For non mythic best is cascade
few days ago
i like ur font
i think thursday was da change
this would make a crazy turing test
@spark dawn
my account joedeez is being hacked
i need it banned or something temporarily
@knotty hornet
aight give me a min to log on
I play this server
fuck off
You shouldn't be promoting in a different persons server unless in a channel for it lmao
narc
narcoleptic idk you tell me
did he just get smited down
prob
it means someone who rats to authorities xD
can someone make a texture pack replacing every texture with the people's liberation army air force flag?
Imagine hank shreider from breaking bad
i swapped over from lb to arcanist and oh my god i lose every raid from my teammates just insta dying to tcc
YIPPEE
WHAT
Riftcanist build please
https://hppeng-wynn.github.io/builder?v=8#9_0250px0p00Qj0t80x30KI0Ji0R10m+c1u-O2b1g1000FU1000FU1000FU1000FU1007lU0z0z0+0+0+0+0-1T--PAhjhD
WynnBuilder build:
Aphotic
Time Rift
The Ephemeral
Moontower
Yang
Obstinance
Vortex Bracer
Contrast
Warp [a6a6a6]
how is everyone doing today?
Quest is asking me to pick up Sayleros will but theres nothing on the ground, and nothing is spawning.... o.o any advice?
Have relogged already, only thing that did was get rid of the exit
can you send a screenshot
hm
Will is no where to be found at all lol
try switching worlds and if he doesnt respawn then you might have to /kill and go through it again
were you doing the quest with your party mate?
she likely didnt do enough damage
link to the font pack please? 
wait i found it i think, it's so free
link?
seems to be this https://modrinth.com/resourcepack/minimalistic-font
This build sucks
did you both do /class at the same time or only 1 of you?
Did hub changes and completely logging out like 4-5 times, eventually just had to leave the party for it to actually work. @soft pond
oh thats really weird
it is what it is, ran into a couple issues like that lol, i remember these things being an issue a couple years back when I played the first time, ima just call em features xD, theres alot going on server side so its bound to happen with 1k+ players actually online, no biggy
why not
dude there is 12k files
for future reference you have to do ~20% of the final phases hp for drops
Hi im doing Tower of legends quest bur i dont have a creeper mask anymore! any solution pls? already tried fixquests
You have to go buy a new mask from the guy in the ravine village
It takes the same materials it required from the earlier quest, so you’ll have to do some running around to get the pigman hide and the creeper dust or whatever
switch to 12.0.2
Can someone help me with Qira and the water div boss???
im in the middle of switching evertything to morph so i can acc play the game and not get one tapped in cosmic lmao
does morph set bonus change if i have two topazs instead of one of each
two topaz is the same as one emerald and one topaz i think
Can someone help me with Qira and the water div boss?
o ok
is anyone having weird lag issues on wynncraft??
half of the blocks are 64x64 for my upscaling project. (not including variants)
no
is herald of ruin good
yo i died in void village and it sent me back to amhsord
how do i finish 1000 meters under
💀
and it was to a stupid gltich as well
void killed me with fall damage instead of teleporting me, back
when doing parkour
cause i was trtyna tp these goofy ass barrier blocks
but the crane doesnt work cause i dont have the quest completed
wait nvm i can js go back to submarine
worth noting the quest isnt completable atm. will be fixed in a day or 2 probably
Hello , i have a problem (about a quest) where can i ask for help ?
in #❓questions or its ok here ?
o acc
dam
is that the isse at the end with the bartrier blocks
its an issue where you dont get teleported to the last stage of the quest area
yeah try using the #❓questions channel
@knotty hornet hi again haha
ok thx
or use the wiki
nan its a problem i shouldnt have , it's not like i'm lost
i think the quest one tousand meters under is bugged
yeah heard it was bugged
damn thats annoying
will be fixed in a few days hopefully
yop
Used all my luck for the next month
yeah its to show what items you've used /itemlock on
i've a doubt , the lock seem to be tied on the slot instead of the item itself
itemlock seem affect item directly
look like its 2 different behavior
but its not useless , both can be usefull
wait its 20 LE for make a guild ? someone said me it was 2 😦
im not 75 yet but it was planned
wtff 4 mythics
Its a wynntils feature but it lets it so you cant move those items in your inventory
You should download it, its a mod specifically made for Wynncraft
bynncraft biki
i wasnt a big fan of the quality halo behind item so i made a square
anyone has cool mods for wynncraft
Wynntills
Thats all u need pretty much
already have and whats the mod that shows u emeralds below an item
which
hi im still newer to wynn, can sm1 answer if your weapon elemental damage affects your spell elemental damage at all, or are they separate
i think so
Base element dmg affects spell dmg yes
yeah wynntills adds that
which mod to enable
I think its more or less a complete addition? Ice snake would deal more damage if you had water dmg
But for the emerald display i forgot
okok thank you sm
yeah idk either
Or i think it was water
but its def somewhere in the wynn settings
Which phase?
Phase 2 and 4 are unkillable
You must wait for his self destruct
The other phases have the natural healing that most mobs have nowadays
Nah he was at the very start
At the beginning I remember It didnt move and unkillable
So I went back in the door behind then I got the boss trying to kill me finally
Yes that is one of the mechanics of the boss altar
Guys I think I invented the most rage bait arguement ever
1 billion lions vs 1 of every creature in wynncraft
(so the music are noteblock if i understand correctly interesting)
i like the tracks we can heard in the game , its a good work
phase 5. I did FINALLY beat it after spending >40 minutes in that arena
I think maybe killing remote-control cybels heals him? or something like that? any time I accidentally triggered a pressure plate he was back to full health within seconds
Sounds like the average person trying to beat wybel
Thats the gimmick
The rowdy wybel heals
They spawn when u pressure plate
yea alright
that fight is mad annoying if I die to dr legendary I'm going to flip table no shot am I doing that again
Dr legendary is pretty easy if i remember correctly, unless they buffed him a lot
I remember struggling with cybel tho
have you done LI since new update?
Not rekindled no
2.0 i think i cleared it
Lotta stat buff pots and emeralds tho

ok so 1) try cybel again it's 40 times worse now and 2) your tips are't very helpful if youre talking about old versions of the boss
Nah im good
I dont stand to gain from dr legendary
I mean the items are nice
But eh i aint much of a completionist
I heard cybel got buffed
Idk about dr legendary
he earned his title
lutho lr seems so
like less annoying
everything is so close together and its mostly flat
Thats a good buff if i hear one
okay update: dr legendary is harder than previously but not crazily so
I did win and now I never have to fight cybel again
until next time I level a class
In the current 3:42 AM EST timezone #360598521772113921 is more popular then #143852930573926400
It’s a very strange predicament
when tf did they change stardust to 10 sp instead of 25 jesus
lol
how tf do you block people on mobile
that was likee 3 days ago
this shit SUCKS
click their profile
then there shoukd be this (...) button
in top right corner
lmk if it works
27th
It was a recent downgrade
yikes!
Most people rip their builds
holy shit i actually got the time right
Well it was 27th for me, idk about yall
look at spectrum for an alternative option
Time is an illusion
yea the real unfortunate part is running it with Warp because the hpr is nice on stardust
Got fucking jumpscared during LR
man
I didn't expect to fight a raid boss during LR xd
Probably either a fool eater spawn or one of the silent expanse random occurrences
blue mask warp on top
Random occurrence?
Apparently there are some things that happen randomly
I haven’t personally encountered any
lootrun events
Oh
One is to get dumped into a pit
fool eater void hole thing
getting one is the equivalent to winning the lottery holy shit
someone has a vendetta against lutho loot runners
what is a lootrun sacrifice
Yea got a fool eater with -15 defence xd
get a fraction of this run's pulls added to the end of the next run in exchange for trashing all ur rewards in the chest
40M HP and resistant to my Hero build through 4 elemental resistances xd
great for hunting mythics
quetz
morrowind?
Or overall grind: 10 LE for 200 pulls? Nope! 2 sacs and 150 pulls added to next run
alr using
unironically quetz dmg is higher than warp lmao
quetz is def one
Cause you get loads of bonus dmg
thats still a ton of money
Is there a list of random LR events?
its cheap af
compared to warp
and most good mythics nowadays
The wand with low attack speed and high mana steal
that's beyond broke
🤑
Lunar spine ig
lunar spine is an offhand
cause it’s good for arcanist
Me before annihilation existed
dont try using it otherwise 💀
ngl anything other than annie is making more money rn
Not when I try
But yes I got most back then
how do i get more money:(
lootrun and raids
then ur lring wrong
u should be getting at least 100 non-effective pulls per run
ok well im also a noob and i dont have all unlocks
my best is 30 pulls
xd
im elite 3
ah yeah
Ok basically you want to grind for now and unlock the white and rainbow beacon
gotta grind lrs to unlock rainbow
rainbow is very poggers
then u can make bank
You "can't" lootrun without rainbow
yeah, 40 challenges
You grind for blue beacons early and try to get A rainbow beacon after like 4 to 5 runs before the end you take aqua then roll for white
they are by far the best ones rn id argue
how many blues
7-8 should carry a 40 challenge lr
i also never get survivability boons
Kinda need orange for more chances of the beacons u need though
less if u get the right ones
so i get shitted on
you can but u dont have to worry too much ab it
ok
thanks
yeah last lr i did i got dark grey earlier than i shouldve and i kid you not every single curse was walk speed
for enemies
That moment what you have cleansing but not equi 💀
me when ice snake:
ive endured 18 curse dark greys a lot of times without equi
its not impossible
just annoying af at times
It's a lot of pain which also slows down the lr, I know it's doable but painful
yup
If you want A run for 8 hours then go cleansing ritual and the other mission that gives curses when one appears, take purple beacons if you can 2 rounds before the end and go full blue beacons if you can
then if you are strong enough go green beacons
inner peace coming in clutch
first hpr boon ive ever got XD
nc
What's your most hated cave in SE lr?
The one with the giant
Forgot name
That stupid thing gets in the way
That giant can 2-shot you if unlucky with survivability boons xd
Ye
Like it happened to me far too many times
Plus its so chaotic with all the slimes etc
Very hard to see the boss
I'm surprised the giant isn't the boss
me when i rain down meteors from above and take 0 dmg
rip
Rip
mage cheeses a load of shit in se
Oh
items that show up in it
like does the challenge reward not count as offering?
bc i got like 8 and my hpr did nto go up at all
was it a dynamic or static boon
dynamic
Hi guys! I need a healer for the Reincarnation boss fight and made a party in party finder if anyone's interested:)
fatals are worth a lot too rn
should i keep it?
i am doing light bender right now
do you have a build
i swapped for raids and was too lazy to switch
then use arca for both 🔥 (its better anyway)
yeah
so better to heal them xddd
i dont know what those words meaN
electromage ig
what is okr
do you have a replacement for diamond static i havent done uhh legendary island
dia static what
bracelet
what does poison do on an accesory ? it add damage to weapon ?
gg qira 1st try
the same on any other item
same dot
well except for weapon i dont understand why a poison dot can be display on something
wdym
i mean at first to me it look it just poison the wearer
its something in auction house i dont own it
this is what poison does when you hit an enemy
hum so its like an additional line of damage on the weapon then ?
yeah
ok thanks you
pb with bloodbath (some newbie stuck in giant tree maze so took a bit longer
IM SO EXCITED
btw its the highest dmg wand in the game
i thought warp is
nah
warp's dmg is amazing but its outdamaged slightly by quetz and majorly by fatal
warp is good cuz high ehp insane ws infinite teleport and access to time rift
fatal can do over 1-1.5m dps but at the expense of everything and being at 5hp
what do i want in electro mage boots
warp peaks at maybe 700k
costs > thunder dmg
most important is 3rd cost
perfect
is lach fine over dia static
for now
also would finesse be better than photon?
if you can sustain ye
dstatic would be ideal I think
it's ok but dstatic clears
hgavent done legendary island
wtf 😭
i forgot it existed
time to test this
in a raid
thank god for my gambling ''''skill''''
Help, my pc has Nicolas Cage
also do i melee with fatal at all
dont use lache on arcanist
but on lb
its fine ig
no
loading into tcc to test/./
me omw to cheese panic zealot 
yea i can barely sustain 4 meteor
no slayer...
i have 11 le
yeah but fatal misses slayer a lot
all good i just swaspped back to photon
walter white never cooked at home
were you not using it?
was on finesse
he sure as hell didnt cook during mechanics class
💀
💀 you need photon
i have a blue photon(s)
ayo im lootrunning rn and i cant see more than 4 beacons, anyone know how to solve it
im using lunars wynntils pack
turn off wynntils custom beacons i think
is there a mod online
Gl
Feels like you have too low pulls amount to expect getting a mythic that I would have just grabbed the 16 le
crab
how to report bug?
When I use this ingredient to craft chest
It will ate my ingredients and materials then give me nothing even if exp
I've gotten more mythics from low pull runs than my high pull runs
yeah but what the guy showed is low low like not even >30 pulls
I got epoch from 12 pulls 0 rr
Its possible lol
yeah but I wouldnt still count on it
hi lu ^_^
i got fatal from 13 pulls 1 rr today
hii
and i got immo from 11 pulls 0 rr earlier this week
wew
400+ pulls for 9le sucks
sorta why when I do high pull runs, I just make sure to stack sacs so that the next run, I could just stack rerolls
(long runs still suck)
Should you really aim for a lot of pulls, tbh? When I finally managed to get a +200 pulls run, it gave me around 10LE and a sea of blue, and that was the best haul possible after the rerolls
Very next run I got a Revenant, around 50 pulls iirc 💀
how many rrs
i wont lie
I guess I could share the same like
I got a 260 pull run and few rrs and best I got was cork Insu
I did a 90 pull run next (with like 9 rrs) and got crabs lol
i literally /suicide a lot to go back to the camp
mid run
so i dont have to fly across the whole thing
does take out 1minute from ur timer but its fast
and i can then keep my timer below 6mins to get that 1 boon activated
it also depends where you get the pulls from cuz ofc you are gonna get so much pulls if you get chronokinesis in corkus lr
I think gambling with the lower odds but shorter runs might be worth it, unless you get a really good mission combo that doesn't feel like a slog to play
i got a ass run a few hrs ago
kept getting health and defense boons 💀
and no dmg
😭
it's really cool they added more short-run missions in 2.1
what is crabs
crusade sabatons
oh those are so expensive
Cleansing Ritual + Equilibrium, or Chrono + Hoarder comes to mind, unless there's a better combo for Chrono I don't know of yet
i need a lr file
i might sell mine because i dont even touch them and they are worth like crazy
se seems like the easiest lootrun
Chrono itself is just really good that I 100% always take it unless the LR has severe lack of chests (prob only molten heights?)
loud incorrect buzzer
what is then
molten
actually so true
molten can be done asleep
Materialism, forgot fucking Materialism exists
then its cotl/sky
i dont like corkus
then corkus/se
molten is also so fast to do lol
it is
thesead is so fucking annoying
except the multihit mobs
i would rather blow myself up than co
its just movement that seems annoying without a warp
but then again
long live warp
i am poor
id rather do morph pfinder than do cotl lr without mage
i will just get lucky when it comes in a lootrun pool
i didnt grind lr enough today
i got sidetracked that i pulled fatal
CotL only has THOSE FUCKING GARGOYLES as annoying
How is everyone doing today?
Corkus is pain, but I find it fun, masochistic pain
corkus is just downright annoying for me
most caves are super long and annoying af to traverse, cant even imagine without warp
the slaying challenges are all piss easy
yea
that one sewer cave is alright
junk pit is annoying to find enough mobs to open the chests
ive definitely done the most lootruns in corkus though
i have a god route for lattice
its so easy
should be even easier with warp
insta tp past the guardians
any ava love club
only mob that does anything
the mobs do nothing
its just the fucking gaps in the floor
i cant move or tp at all without getting fucked
i fucking hate corkus lootrun
tank it like a champ
its not the damage
yeah
its the falling
it also sometimes glitches and doesn’t spring you back up
it makes the cave stupidly slow and annoying
also
but i got it down
warp funny agi
not the mention the absurdly large area and overly complicated cave systems
90% of the time you take no dmg, but 10% of the time u lose half ur hp
genuinely just not worth it
corkus is stupidly large without idol/warp
just with warp it takes ages to get from fucking lighthouse to aquaculture
doesn’t add up on time profit ratio
which are probably the 2 farthest away challenges
i have a shitty lament
actually the pirate beach might win in distance
when do lr pools change
week
isnt all the pools on nori too
wanna buy
i have 11 le

sure ill buy for 11 le
selling for 3le
Rename it to Trypophobia Gaunlet
i gotta get my funds up
that was beta tna
Ok fuck Pirate Lattice in particular
playable 🔥
i almost soloed greg in those circumnstances
plenty of blocks to land on
oh shit molten has slayer in lootpool
but they had to fix the voidholes infinite lifetime for me to actually consistently start soloing
ik what im doing tomorrowo
But Warehouse I always feels like it's my skill issue than an issue with the cave
not worth, better off getting better mythics selling and u get more money
is it
while running at 300% ws?
U saw my luck earlier
It's a fairly "simple" layout, but I never bother to learn it
there’s like >50% of the map you can still land on 
tna is very confusing for me
Junk Pit, it takes a bit to not go in blasting and corral the clock boys near the chests, but you can blaze through it in the right conditions
but i really want the lightweaver aspect
its pretty simple
i got to the tree one
boss mechanics might take a bit to learn though
i somehow ended inside the tree
just let an experienced player do tree
All raids are very confusing to me because I'm bad at the game
all you do is kill the shrubs and stand on the altar
yo i just got a fatal from a lootrun, should i sell or roll it? i dont have one yet but idk if fatal prices are good rn
so we lost
average pfinder
gamba gamba gamba
rule #1 of tna pfinder
only run it if you are confident you can solo carry
because i always end up fucking doing so
i dont have friends on wynn
we gotta do some tna then fr
kinda poor rn, 3stx to my name so is doing the funny gambling worth it
i am in usa timezone though
¯_(ツ)_/¯
Join PXM today
the random ass mob that always appears when I do that nearby challenge and one shots me anyway 💀
❌ join tbgm instead 🔥
what do these words mean
guild tags
what does tdgm stand for
what does pxm stand for
The Broken Gasmask
yeah tbgm wasnt the best at warring
Is tbgm
is this like factions
but we dont war anymore anyway its just guild raid after guild raid
more or less
well you can hold territories
Idrc but i find it funny to think back on pxm vs tbgm and somehow tbgm failed to take all our vlow terrs
i want to do guild raids for aspects and less npcs on my team
wtf
when was this
💀
ah yea wasnt here back then
Or maybe early 2.0
i just warred in tbgm earlier this year b4 summer
Idk tbh
what is warring
Uh
5-8 attempts for a hq is crazy
do u fight other players
A thing where you fight a tower
Of the opposing guild
And take their territory
To gain bonuses
-random low lvl guild member within territory even though we spam chat
-bro forgot something
-guy fails aura somehow
Its kinda boring but imo not that bad
top 3 reasons why hq snipe fail
cant even list lag cuz the snipe doesnt last long enough for lag to kick in 🔥
legit bro i never failed an aura, but then again i always played lament/cata
I mean
so ig tanks and healers had a harder time
Just walk back
Also if youre a tank
You can tank it
And not die
My monster can tank it
So uh
Skrill
vhigh aura?
high
one day they'll make warring into clash of clans where you destroy all the buildings and defenses and the enemy guild can deploy 2 or 3 players to actively defend
trust
Also @wispy acorn i forgot to say but pxm is pixl monday which has its lore im too lazy to repeat
both sound lame
(its pinned in our discord tho)
i didnt pick the name
You dont join a guild for the name lol
i know
which has most active guild raids🙏
i mean we always have guild raids going
invite me
(some ppl here play 24/7 istg)
i think the entirety of old tbgm you and prob most knew has been completely washed
like istg
the new leader the new chiefs the new strats (including me) were all newer additions
how do i join a guild anyways
Its just funny imo
No real beef with anyone
bigger guilds tend to have a lot more activity in raiding (and are the only guilds where you'll ever war in any significant capacity)
but they can be messy due to being big
I remember taking down a bunch of taq terrs and they messaged me telling me to kms and i said "ill stop for 20stx" and they got pissed 💀
And kinda same when NFR existed but instead of telling me to kms they said i hope its fine if we ally, so we did and then they shut down 2 weeks later.
Small guild PXM killed big guild L
2021-2022 was crazy
i was here for a bit in like
aug 2022
started wynn around then and then quit entirely until they added the new lootruns
Lmao
Dw i didnt do alot either
It sucked imo and still do think it sucks
And like ive had champ since day 1 of it being a thing but old lr was kinda pay to win which is bullshit
If you didnt have champion ir would be a pain in the ass
I know the topic moved from LRs, but can I just say that the Corkus lr OST fucking slaps
the only people that want it back are the ones attached to their old exorbitant mythic prices
That's all thank you
New lr is kinda the same but also not
WTF WAS THAT BRO
the ground randomly broke
and i got eaten by something huge
wtf
in front of lutho literally
I mean imo the market was better back then, and there still is some very expensive mythics despite lower prices overall. Like it felt more rewarding and cool to have one, now everyone and their grandma has one. But also to gatekeep mythics behind countless hours or insane rng is kinda dogshit
Lr event
buy some food man
Theyre rare
Uh L
igwym i do think mythics feeling like mythics is great because lets be honest, barely any mythics feel like mythics nowadays
it didnt like me having 15 minutes + time not going down when choosing beacons
Some of the new non mythics outdmg old mythics too lol
Me when 15le fabled relik does 700k dps compared to hella optimized build minmaxed 20stx only does 400k
a lot of them are quite powerful sure but due to how common they are, that by itself makes them feel less mythic but even then
being common also just makes their power level feel much more normal
making them look even less amazing
Fr immo at 4le?
Sometimes thats the cheapest
Immolation
Its not tier stack lmao
Its technically the highest damage relik in the game but its playstyle is way too risky for that alone
So reso Beats it
But Summoner Immolation still is very good
this game hates me
it gave me vibrant aqua and then proceeds to give me a vibrant rainbow(+200%) at the last challenge
💀
@onyx oasis
💀
What?
What is this though
Spell
Why is it tf but spellspam and also no heal
Thats the gimmick
You have
Fun times
Obv but
U would heal with hpr ye
You wont die if your build is good
I probably would buy an immo then mess with it maybe
buy my immo
funny
Lol
gimme some
I have 58stx and my guild mate wants to take a 14stx loan 
Gimme an immo summoner build
💀 too much stx
Surely with it I know already that its not for raids
buy my cursed monster fr
Already have a good one sry
I have like 50 stx lol
😔 godamm take it off of me someone lol
It works well in raids
Surely tna
i need a lament
Im going to cry
As i said, works in all
Im not talking about reso
Real
Bro doesnt believe
What a dead archetype xddd
I deal like 2m damage with the best nonmythic shaman weapon and summoner in tcc
Summoner is dead skull
But does it have infinite ehp mana and hpr sustain
Yea didnt think so
I mean ye but people would still shame on you for being a summoner in tcc anyway
Get outdamaged by everything else lol
Nah havent seen that
gg
It doesnt matter if you deal too little damage
So top damage is too little?
25M too little guys
really
Sad time to be alive
Never see a summoner deal 25m damage but hmm
Sounds funky
Probably cause no one uses immo cause no self healing
But people who do
They know whatsup
You can also go aco immo
900k dps

(you need an abso to heal you*)
also with yesmythic
cry in summoner
me when all the puppets wanna hit the onyx axons at the back of the arena:
Minions damage don't count to your damage in leaderboard
Idk uproot can retarget
But still
Kinda silly to care anyways
It can't deal damage lol
Its just silly Numbers
arcanist still on top
I got roasted by trance user in pfinder
Like i have unique top damage builds but i dont really care
