📚lore_discussion

[mystic remnant]

because they sorta just

[untold warren]

I love this chat bro

[mystic remnant]

they dont have much before they just get together at the end

[zenith vigil]

okay i feel like you werent looking

at the

words on screen

[untold warren]

Political Men's Cupsizes

[mystic remnant]

false

[warm flicker]

first playthrough i thought it was so cute

[mystic remnant]

i am looking at the words on screen

[zenith coral]

i do want the devs to explain the heights of custom models or replace models from outside fruma because this is insane

[mystic remnant]

it is in fact extremely cute

[zenith vigil]

or the portraits of them blushing every time they talk to each other

[formal bridge]

I think this is more a case of fruma not having enough time for characters even in a 13 part quest lmao

There just isnt time to also have zeph's relationship develop more

[mystic remnant]

yeah i think their relationship writing wise would have benefitted from seeing what they were going through in the background

specifically in deraj

[zenith coral]

deraj just isnt out yet

[formal bridge]

It's unfortunately just a limitation of the game engine itself really

[zenith coral]

well prolly learn more

[mystic remnant]

they get rescued out of it off screen anyways

[zenith coral]

nothing stop innovation

[untold warren]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1076545160583839884/1478539541735407760/Sui_Nom.gif

[zenith coral]

theres no problem you cant fix with enough armorstands -the ct of wynncraft

[warm flicker]

it will be a cold day in hell when game engines put a stop to yaoi development

[formal bridge]

I hope they eventually add more stuff like that elf you meet in the aldorei questline

[untold warren]

Dude can you imagine how massive Zhiraok's gluteus maximus is gng

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/Gluteus_maximus_3D.gif?utm_source=commons.wikimedia.org&utm_campaign=index&utm_content=thumbnail_unscaled

[formal bridge]

Where you get to visit often and see the development of him after what he lesrns

[mystic remnant]

even the cold stone seems insistent on barring our passage

[zenith vigil]

🤤

[mystic remnant]

in any case zeph is cute

want to squish him

wish he got a little more character dev in general though

[untold warren]

Oh you want a summer bunny?

[zenith vigil]

i also want to squish him but painfully and dangerously

[slim belfry]

surprised nobody drew zeph in a dress

[untold warren]

snow bunnies are white
summer bunnies are hot oily men

[zenith vigil]

i dont like that stuttering guy at all

[signal bough]

who's the most eligible guy for a player romance

[zenith coral]

hopefully one of the yaoi guys dies in fruma part 2 for more angst

[zenith vigil]

not one bit

[untold warren]

https://tenor.com/view/sonic-gif-8467639764404918143

Bet

[mystic remnant]

dude fruma LITERALLY had us bury a gay

if they do this i will crash the FUCK out

[slim belfry]

Tasim for some people

[zenith coral]

nowhere near enough imo

[untold warren]

Sui, deadass

[signal bough]

GUY

[untold warren]

EVERYONE COULD HAVE A LEVER IF YOU BEG HARD ENOUGH

[warm flicker]

u fucking killed him

[zenith coral]

shes like 8 apparentley

[mystic remnant]

yeah after i buried elise i walked straight to the mistwoods and spent an hour massacreing the guards

[slim belfry]

duh seaskipper captain

[zenith vigil]

after i buried elise i went and did bat cave for like 20 minutes to level up

[mystic remnant]

the queen of fruma trust trust

[untold warren]

You're missing out on Bank Keeper

[mystic remnant]

the bats were symbolic of themes and such.

[untold warren]

You can't gamble without a Lever

[mystic remnant]

surely

[slim belfry]

what about blacksmith

[signal bough]

I honestly dont know but right now she HAS to be a young adult

[zenith coral]

frankly all the characters that died were made with that in mind, so they were built upon the idea of being sacrificed. this is a cop-out.

[slim belfry]

I was gonna say trade market but they're probably a couple already

or siblings

[signal bough]

Cause Mora said Syndra, who's about 50, has 10 years on him

[untold warren]

Big gluteus maximus, not really a lover

[mystic remnant]

i think wynn suffers from not enough named characters

[zenith coral]

syndra looke dlike 70 to me loo

[slim belfry]

Syndra is like

late 40s

Mora being late 30s

[mystic remnant]

if they wanna make a storyline theyre gonna have to introduce actual people to get attached to

[untold warren]

wynncraft: smash or pass

[signal bough]

I presume she and Elise were about the same age

[untold warren]

Thank you for the ideas guys, I know what I gotta do

[mystic remnant]

or maybe they go the monster hunter route and have everyone named like a placeholder

[signal bough]

and Elise is 53 or so

[zenith coral]

i really thought syndra and elise were retirement age

[mystic remnant]

smash or pass, elphaba

[zenith coral]

and were like 70 or 80

[untold warren]

pass

[mystic remnant]

smash or pass, the king of ragni

[untold warren]

wynndating sim, trust me ong

[warm flicker]

smash

[untold warren]

10 inches deep, smash

[mystic remnant]

😭

[astral void]

Smash or pass cart Aledar

[mystic remnant]

smash the cart

[slim belfry]

I am NOT participating

[untold warren]

Pass, I'm not into that

[zenith coral]

id smash the cart

[mystic remnant]

smash or pass, solar vanguard

[zenith coral]

im not into humans

[warm flicker]

smash or pass, fruman pest controller

[untold warren]

Oh but you'll participate in the dating sim?? Smh

[astral void]

Smash or pass the parasite

[zenith coral]

with or without fire resist

[untold warren]

Pass

[slim belfry]

nope

[mystic remnant]

with your current build's resists and ehp

[zenith coral]

pass

[astral void]

But the question is, which one's smashing

[mystic remnant]

smash or pass, dullahan

[zenith coral]

smash his severed head

[slim belfry]

I think this is getting way too far 😭

[signal bough]

it is

[untold warren]

Smash or Pass, Seaskipper Captain

[zenith coral]

pass

[untold warren]

Aight back to our political discussion

[slim belfry]

pass everyone next question

[astral void]

Pass he'd sail my shi

[signal bough]

more questions, young one?

[mystic remnant]

who's rex's brother anyways

[untold warren]

So which nation could win a battle of attrition? ASSUMING they each province is united

[mystic remnant]

fruma

[zenith coral]

indeed you think majin painted his house himself

[warm flicker]

fruma yeah

[mystic remnant]

does gavel get orphion

[zenith coral]

gavel prob

[signal bough]

Gavel gets Qira

[mystic remnant]

like is that a thing they get

[warm flicker]

fruma is the only place with both a big population and big industry, it can survive the best

[signal bough]

and the doguns

[zenith coral]

gavel has ALOT of stuff

[signal bough]

so either Gavel or Fruma

[untold warren]

Wynn and Corkus, what about them?

[signal bough]

Corkus could make a valiant effort

[mystic remnant]

corkus is like a lesser version of the best parts of fruma

[zenith coral]

also gavel gets 2 colossi and who knows many grootslangs

[warm flicker]

qira really dont gaf about gavel, she only cares about the war of the realms

[zenith coral]

they said if everyone was united

[signal bough]

she's the ruler of a state so she is forced to be a part of this thought experiment

[zenith coral]

frankly gavel could slam

[warm flicker]

wynn has low industry and low population, it would lose almost instantly despite its warrior culture

[untold warren]

Y'all wanna make a political map of Wynncraft? Cuz the current maps seem a bit outdated with the current lore, No?

[mystic remnant]

Does gavel get orphion or is that like

[signal bough]

I am

[mystic remnant]

too much

[untold warren]

Lemme see

[untold warren]

I mean if Fruma gets the Queen, yeah

[zenith coral]

light realm and dark realm are treates as separate provinces so dern may win

[slender copper]

https://tenor.com/view/antman-what-the-hell-happened-here-avengers-gif-18240147

[untold warren]

Okay wait, Gavel has Orphion, Fruma has Queen...and Wynn gas???

[untold warren]

Oh neato

[mystic remnant]

are we also giving gavel lari

[zenith coral]

gavel doesnt need orphion lowk

[untold warren]

okay what the fuck does Wynn have

[warm flicker]

Corkus has industry that can rival fruma, but they dont have the population to match. If they can keep Fruma out of the ocean then maybe they can hope for a stalemate

[zenith coral]

the eye

[slender copper]

Me returning scrolling through the conversation:

[mystic remnant]

can we consider the nations at the peak of their strength

[signal bough]

the CoW

[zenith coral]

ye

[untold warren]

We are not giving Wynn the dern beast

[mystic remnant]

if gavel gets lari can wynn get the twains and bob

[signal bough]

oh, theorick

[untold warren]

Yeah

[zenith coral]

i meant the eye

[untold warren]

Which is part of the Dern Beast.

[mystic remnant]

i think with the twains wynn could do a little better

not that theyd win but like

[zenith coral]

dern gets bob cuz he is there rn presumably

[untold warren]

Fruma w/ sovereigns

[elfin comet]

oh man @warm flicker that was a fun read

[zenith coral]

i still think dern or gavel wins

[mystic remnant]

we dont know enough about dern to say

[untold warren]

Not enough info on dern, so they aint included yet

[warm flicker]

glad u liked it

[zenith coral]

separate, in this hypothetical its the spymaster whos omniscient

[untold warren]

Goddamn, yeah Fruma might win

[zenith coral]

x

gavel has ALOT more people

[untold warren]

yeah but Fruma has the sovereigns

[signal bough]

it depends if Fruma has to go through Wynn and Corkus first or if like

[zenith coral]

and other things like 2 colossi, dragons, krolton qira etc

[mystic remnant]

the air monks

[signal bough]

they're all placed adjacent to one another

[mystic remnant]

skyraiders are also there

[slender copper]

I have a suggestion, but they aren't from Wynncraft so it doesn't count.

[mystic remnant]

gavel is fun because it has ten billion ideas and none of them are developed at all

[untold warren]

If they get blockaded, then maybe they have to deal with Corkus first

I mean Corkians were once Fruman, so they might unite, i dunno

[mystic remnant]

what do you mean there's a horrifying monster which is just chilling in a cave over there. and it kills anything it comes into contact with? okay man

[signal bough]

also we need Selchar content SO BAD

[zenith coral]

antikyhera is gonna transform corkus into a flying fortress

[mystic remnant]

corkus is going to come together like metroplex

[signal bough]

Selchar could theoretically be part of Wynn

[untold warren]

Corkus just leaves wynncraft and becomes a galactic empire

Shit

[mystic remnant]

yknow the FMA city scale transmutation circle

[zenith coral]

once corkus is a mechanical planet it becomes its own realm and antikyhera becomes a realm beast

[mystic remnant]

imagine there's just a corkian amplifier every 3 feet along corkus' walls and they just fucking

[zenith coral]

it will then become a cyberpunk 2077 super blackwall ai

[mystic remnant]

transformer their way into a living city

would be peak

[signal bough]

ok Exalted fan

[zenith coral]

and hack reality into a perfect victory

[mystic remnant]

corkus shall make the earthmovers

[zenith coral]

i dont know exalted almost at all actually

[warm flicker]

hi war

[mystic remnant]

https://klipy.com/gifs/earthmover-1000-thr-earthmover--k01KRWG330JY45BHD1M6D94QRNE

leak of next corkus update

[untold warren]

I think a post apocalyptic wynncraft is an interesting concept to explore

[warm flicker]

weve been in a post apocalypse since 0 AP

[mystic remnant]

i mean

isn't

[vestal rivet]

my funni wynncraft 2 posting

[signal bough]

wdym

[mystic remnant]

this a post apocalypse?

[zenith coral]

except due to corkus being an different planet theyre dropped from orbit

[vestal rivet]

just every apocalypse happened at once

[untold warren]

Shhh

[signal bough]

I think wynncraft has a little further to fall before its an apocalypse

[zenith coral]

you guys think all the wybels together could win?

[untold warren]

4500 AP?

[signal bough]

like, let's say the player doesnt exist

[zenith coral]

we have no idea how many wybels exist in space and orange wybels dialogue refers to some insane inventions

[signal bough]

and move on a year from there

[mystic remnant]

all the zombies that flooded en masse into wynn counts as an apocalypse

[zenith coral]

for all we kno wybels are the dominant species in-universe and mog all of wynncraft

[untold warren]

Ngl i think they're gonna change the calendar again, because once the portal closed, Is the era gonna be called "PP"?

Post-Portal"

[mystic remnant]

when they finish the dern storyline salted is going to make space wynncraft

and we're going to be fighting the wybel realm beast

[untold warren]

Wynn dating sim, I'm calling it

[zenith coral]

this is almost confirmed with all the plot threads of the meteors

[untold warren]

I think we have 30 more years to go until Wynncraft officially becomes EOS

[mystic remnant]

this could unironiclly be a decent way to flesh out the world

[signal bough]

okay let's go, most eligible men after Tasim

[zenith coral]

nah if the realm of war is over well jsut go to some other planet problem fixed

[mystic remnant]

general gracken

[zenith coral]

aledar

[mystic remnant]

has a stable job, cheerful, helpful

[untold warren]

Banker

[signal bough]

conditions: alive. late game story quest involving them

[untold warren]

chat does the player have the least amount of Charisma in the story?

[untold warren]

Majin

[zenith coral]

saphanis and orphion

[mystic remnant]

i have terrible news

[untold warren]

OH WAIT SHIT

ZHIRAOK

[mystic remnant]

xao

my goat kaio

[signal bough]

he never really interacts with the player, I don't see it

[mystic remnant]

has a portrait and a total of like four lines

[zenith coral]

dullahan

amadels assistant

[slim belfry]

yet villagers have no portraits at all so yknow what that means 🤭

[signal bough]

okay. Most eligible bachlorettes are Ava and Sui

[zenith coral]

bak'al

[zenith coral]

qira

you wanna date a giant spider?

[mystic remnant]

chef hamsey

[zenith coral]

ive seen people who wanna

[mystic remnant]

and of course, DR HERBERT VON LEGENDARY

[warm flicker]

majority of the server would say yes

[untold warren]

I'd lowkey hit

Fuck marry kill gone wrong

[zenith coral]

the new skyraider queen is looking unhumanly beautiful, whoever gets her is a very lucky person ;D

[vestal rivet]

Ava isn't even human :/

[untold warren]

Yo I didn't know you were a speciest

[mystic remnant]

fmk witherhead, redbeard and the antikthera supercomputer

[vestal rivet]

https://tenor.com/view/obama-autoreconociendo-gif-2359140704343491857

[zenith coral]

doesnt stop anyone

[vestal rivet]

true enough

[zenith coral]

my character skin is a corpse btw

[vestal rivet]

what is your MC un

[untold warren]

fmk two, sui, tasim

[warm flicker]

Dr. Herbert von Legendary implies there is a place somewhere called Legendary, of which Herbert's family is the ruler or owner of. Maybe Legendary Island is what gave Herbert his name, and not the other way around. But if thats the case where did Legendary Island get its name from?

[zenith coral]

in-lore ive explained previously

[vestal rivet]

I'm asking to take a look on namemc

[signal bough]

maybe there was a legend on the island...

[untold warren]

The day that a wynncraft character is put into a hear me out is the day I'll stop thirsting over Sui

[mystic remnant]

"do it yourself"

[zenith coral]

indeed...

[untold warren]

He unfortunately doesn't

[zenith coral]

sui is underage btw

[untold warren]

Nah fr?

She's like 20

[zenith coral]

apparentley

[vestal rivet]

I thought Sui was like 20 as well

[zenith coral]

its never stated but shes apparentley under 18

like 14? idk

[signal bough]

the CT has transferred Sui's age to Soosu

[untold warren]

Soosu is immortal aint she?

[zenith coral]

or maybe i believed some people who were trolling

[vestal rivet]

yeah no I doubt Sui is younger than like 18

[zenith coral]

salted even chimed in and said he was disappointed in people after they were thirsting

[zenith coral]

maybe maybe not

[untold warren]

So Soosu is now 20, age Sui is 150 years old???

[signal bough]

Sui TO Soosu

[zenith coral]

maybe once sui egodeaths into an elemental

[untold warren]

yeah

So sui becomes 150, and soosu becomes 20

[mystic remnant]

thoughts on dr junes

[zenith coral]

nerd

[signal bough]

Sui becomes 14 and Soosu becomes 154

[untold warren]

Fuck it, my best bet is to simp for Two

[untold warren]

OH NAH

OH NAHHHH

[warm flicker]

love a woman i can learn about olmic history with

[mystic remnant]

true!

[vestal rivet]

after further thought
I'm going to guess that Soosu is biologically 14-15

[signal bough]

I would expect a 'she's still a kid' line from... someone

[signal bough]

that's the thing, she's not

[zenith coral]

unironically i think her face is messed up like bak'al, we saw a corrupted eye under hood i think

[signal bough]

a CT member got pissy at people who thought Soosu was a kid

[untold warren]

Aint no shame in that

You don't simp for someone because of how they look

You simp for them because of their Voice Actor

[mystic remnant]

whar

[zenith coral]

ig but i dont see people talk bout it when it may be very lore relevant. like we have a dark and light mask with corruption underneath.

[vestal rivet]

isn't... a huge part of her tragedy... that she was made Sovereign far, far too young...?

[mystic remnant]

i love two's stupid pants

[untold warren]

Two's VA is so fucking peak

[zenith coral]

like tealor arantheal

[mystic remnant]

theres a va?

in wynn?

[signal bough]

guess she's just magically depressed

[untold warren]

Voice of Wynn

[vestal rivet]

Voices of Wynn mod

[mystic remnant]

oh

[untold warren]

Also why tf did they switch the ages?

[mystic remnant]

my computer goes to 2 fps during the solar vanguard fight with minimal particles

i cant run mods

[untold warren]

I went from only raising eyebrows to suddenly being on a register bro

[vestal rivet]

so many details point to her still being mentally like 8-9 if they didn't mean to imply that then they did a horrid job implying it anyways

(emotionally not rationally)

[untold warren]

and they only charged it because a person was pissy about it??

[signal bough]

the CT member was like 'So many people misunderstood that her looking like a kid, having child-like interests, and wanting to get rid of her blessing for an unmentioned reason didn't mean she was a child'

[signal bough]

no the CT member was looking down on ppl who thought she was a kid

[hybrid gazelle]

Huh

[slim belfry]

?????????

[hybrid gazelle]

When did a ct member looking down on people

[slim belfry]

it was like this since the beta

[untold warren]

And so the CT turned Sui from a 20 year old to a 14 year old? When tf?

[hybrid gazelle]

They literally just state Soosu is not a child and that it

[vestal rivet]

• looks like a child
• has the interests of a young child
• was referenced to have been put on the queen's radar extremely young
  like what

[slim belfry]

NOBODY SAID THAT WHAT

[untold warren]

BRO HE SAID THAT

[untold warren]

???

[hybrid gazelle]

Huh?

Dude

Wtf

[signal bough]

was kinda a joke

[slim belfry]

well there was one person but I won't say because it's non-CT

[slim belfry]

(very bad too)

[untold warren]

I should stop simping for blocky characters man

[signal bough]

based on the initial readings of Soosu being a kid and Sui being an adult

[untold warren]

i aint ever retracting my statements about Zhiraok though

[slim belfry]

please do not go onto "sui is 14 year old" train that had a bad origin

[signal bough]

okay here

soosu is small and likes childish things, so therefore she is an actual child.

[vestal rivet]

yeah no this misconstrues what selvut said lol

[hybrid gazelle]

You missing the point and contextof the text

[vestal rivet]

he said that Soosu is not an actual child
she is not a literal 10 year old any more

[hybrid gazelle]

That selvut try to understand why people misunderstood part of the character

[vestal rivet]

it says diddly squat about her physical age or how much she has developed emotionally

[signal bough]

<@&268142859327242242> beast

[slim belfry]

maybe the tone shift in soosu's diary needs to be more obvious and show that it's detached from the blessing

[zenith coral]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/B8dTGguh2Vg this is the type of voice actor you simp to (the male voice)

[untold warren]

@hybrid gazelle you take commissions btw?

[vestal rivet]

it refers to the fact that while many aspects of her have stayed with that traumatized 9 y/o, many others have moved on reguardless
you can see her regulating herself like an adult

[hybrid gazelle]

I would not say Soosu have interest of a child but she definitely inspired by her childhood and may have nostalgic from it where she feel like her childhood was robbed

Because of how much work has diverge her attention

Also no I do not opening comm

[untold warren]

Damn

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-gif-25117042

[mystic remnant]

what do you want drawn anyways

[vestal rivet]

in her diary in her room she outright says she is still interested
unless you mean to take that as having been too long ago to still apply, but she was already Sovereign when that part was written

[mystic remnant]

mister freaky flamboyant wynn larper

[hybrid gazelle]

I still would not say it childish

[untold warren]

Oh I'm just trying to copy his style

I don't need anything actually drawn, I'm studying that on the side

[mystic remnant]

trashie, hes after your style!

[vestal rivet]

if unicorns and disney princess equivalents aren't childish then I don't know what is

[mystic remnant]

run for your life

also you cant copy trashie's style without also learning his immaculate creativity

half of the reason trashie's so good at what he does is that all of his concepts are so cool

[hybrid gazelle]

I mean if it inspire her to invent stuff then yeah

[untold warren]

Yeah i had to learn how he fucking make skulls, pain in the ass it was

[vestal rivet]

that's the manga with the teleporter thing that sorta failed
the unicorn didn't inspire her to invent something

[hybrid gazelle]

Then yeah nvm up I got me

[untold warren]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7b/Gluteus_maximus_3D.gif?utm_source=commons.wikimedia.org&utm_campaign=index&utm_content=thumbnail_unscaled

[signal bough]

was she complaining about how difficult teleportation was?

[hybrid gazelle]

But yeah Soosu want to innovate so she can have her childhood

But she did not get to do that even with her sovereign status

Pretty sure something fucked up when she trying to make teleport

[slim belfry]

I think the diary entries should be numbered or titled differently to indicate how far apart some are

[vestal rivet]

them not being labelled is part of the mystery I think

[hybrid gazelle]

Yeah but it also cause some misconception

I think the fault mostly lie on how often children do these things trope appear in media

Thst people automatically see that children doing these things

Despite ct just not want to be weird and have the character being adult

[slim belfry]

yeah especially with that one incident oh boy

[vestal rivet]

what incident

[slim belfry]

.

[vestal rivet]

I don't know the origin of that either

[signal bough]

all I know is that apparently the CT wants to change some dialogue to indicate Mora is younger

but that wouldnt impact Sui

[slim belfry]

in short
nsfw shout right in front of CT

[hybrid gazelle]

Beta shout was fucking vile

[vestal rivet]

I also still don't know why anyone thinks Sui is 14
haven't seen any of the supposed text from CT saying as such either and tbh I'm not convinced it exists lol

[hybrid gazelle]

People should get ban for that

It legit so vile that people should get ban for typing it and I am not even joking

[vestal rivet]

I'm guessing I shouldn't be upset I missed this shout then

[hybrid gazelle]

Like revolt these people beta test

[slim belfry]

the leaves are young adults so there

[signal bough]

it's definitely harder to get a 'grown ass woman with depression doing childish things' read than a 'matured child who was stuck with a child's body and has depression because of that' read

[vestal rivet]

not all of them :/
Syndra is in her 50s, and Kaio is also referenced to be too old to be fighting any more

[slim belfry]

right I mean the non-old ones

heck it's funny because most people you see are either full adults or university student age

[vestal rivet]

Mora also looks a little older
may just be the beard though

[slim belfry]

with some being literal uni students

[signal bough]

Mora is older

[vestal rivet]

yeah I'd guess that Mora is older than his (most of) peers under Syndra

[signal bough]

not as old as Kaio but older than Rex and Zeph

[vestal rivet]

Kaio being the exception

[slim belfry]

gosh thinking about it fruma probably has an insane curfew for kids

[hybrid gazelle]

I can see Soosu being adult befause I just see her childish front being a cope mechanism whwre she try to regain her childhood that she never had due to all these roughwork work

[slim belfry]

no wonder we barely see any

[vestal rivet]

a mix of that and kids having custom models that probably require notably more effort than adult models

[slim belfry]

honestly I saw Soosu as a coping adult like how she treats her golems like her children

[hybrid gazelle]

Yeah

[zenith coral]

i think mora is 30 minimum

[signal bough]

wait where was there a kid

Auburn?

[zenith coral]

syndra is 60 - 80

[hybrid gazelle]

Tbh her golems barely have any screen time

[signal bough]

kid with his mom?

[hybrid gazelle]

So her acting like a parent to her golems did not appear often

[vestal rivet]

1 in Auburn and 1 in Mistwoods during the festival there iirc

[signal bough]

no

[slim belfry]

I understood because that's how I see my own electronics

[vestal rivet]

I thought it was confirmed 50s

[signal bough]

two kids who tell you to go kill the bugs

[slim belfry]

also because they apparently were to have more screentime

[vestal rivet]

same/similar age to Elise, who herself is in her 50s when we find her even if she looks much older, due to the Roughworks overworking her

[signal bough]

its clear that the typical kid in wynncraft just has to be a villager

due to the models

[vestal rivet]

Prince of Troms be like

(armor stand)

[slim belfry]

historically accurate life expectancy

notice that we barely see any old people in the roughworks

[signal bough]

lotta geezers in auburn tho

I was expecting some mention of Tasim

[vestal rivet]

yeah Elise felt out of place, although after having done the quest it makes a bit more sense

wonder what she was living off of, I doubt there's social security there

[signal bough]

even if the theories about Tasim being an orphan and a loner are true, then at least you'd have some people saying 'A new 'special sovereign'? Wasn't there a Tasim around here?'

[slim belfry]

his house is right there too lol

[vestal rivet]

it's only been a few years tops when Tasim shows back up so it is a little weird that nobody knows him

[signal bough]

prob a little over a year

unless someone has the Kaio aledar dialogue

[vestal rivet]

insane given that RoL took up multiple months of that

[signal bough]

yeah, same year

[vestal rivet]

the player is just speedrunning this

[signal bough]

all we know is that it isnt autumn when we go into fruma

[slender copper]

From the timeline we know, everything from the player arriving to Wynn and now happens within a year.

[vestal rivet]

breaking the world record for "race wars stopped in a year"

[slim belfry]

it'd probably take me a few years to do all the quests in wynn parallel to my irl self

[vestal rivet]

1 year is a freakishly short timeframe for what we do still hard to get over that

[vestal rivet]

just a few? irl I wouldn't be surprised if all of this together didn't take more than a decade

[indigo plover]

anyone know what the story is with the bunker next to SST

[signal bough]

I know it took me a while to do all the content but it def was closer to months

oh, I think it was about bonfire to november

[slim belfry]

I dont mean gameplay I meant in a lore standpoint

[slender copper]

I think what threw me off with her being a young adult was her portrait, because it's way smaller compared to other young adults that we've seen with their portrait (but now I know it's simply design because Soosu was meant to be short).

[vestal rivet]

most of the female characters baring Syndra and Her Majesty are shorter in their portraits iirc

[signal bough]

oh yeah I finished hunters calling and then I found the monument of horse

[slender copper]

I also for some reason thought that the bigger the portrait, the older they are?? But it's just the style after consideration lol

[vestal rivet]

I thought it was just the ladies being shorter than the dudes tbh
except with Soosu, she was like comedically short in her portrait
but Wynncraft doesn't always carry those irl differences over so that also could mean something again???

[hybrid gazelle]

Soosu just short lol

Thst literally it

She just very short

I imagine the reason she not trying to to make golem as part of the workforce or security

Is her understand that having a job is literally life or death in roughwork

So she did not try to invent golems for it so morr people would not lose their job

[jagged kiln]

I feel like mentally she is still partially a child due to her being a genius from youth abd being noticed by the queen so early on, so she couldn't ever 'grow up' normally

[slim belfry]

based on later entries her interest in being a sovereign and her early life as a child didn't really compete

we see that even after being one she still had time to be with her friend but now she feels nothing

same with her family

yeesh this is a heavy topic no matter what

[hybrid gazelle]

I would not say mentally since it all just coping mechanism so she stll have capacity of being mature

it literally just that she coping her situation by acting childish

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah she start out just want to make things to she can live out her childhood with her friends

but she more attention she got from the crown and expectation from inventing more and more

she did not get to live out that childhood anyway

[jagged kiln]

Fair

[hybrid gazelle]

because the only ting she got respond is expectation for more thing to be done when she invent shit

like

LITERALLY

the moment she invent stuff the crown just fucking double their quota so her dad has to work more when her mom still sick

and also the crown did nothing with her mom sickness btwl ike her mom still fucking dead

[jagged kiln]

Yeah, so no matter what she did she got no childhood and her parents were literally worked to death and she blamed herself

[hybrid gazelle]

her innovation just meet with more expectation than actually just living out her childhood

shit fucked up

[vapid path]

Cotton gin moment 🙁

[split night]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/816419729295016048/1505103534675329147/Video_Project_25.gif

[signal bough]

how do you think the player and Zhiraok's post-apotheosis meeting would go

[split night]

beating each other up

I doubt Zhiroak sill let go of the massacre
but due to the nature of like, any rebellion ever
all of the rebels would be held accountable as well

if that ever happen

[signal bough]

the player does participate in saving auburn

[split night]

by extension all of fruma

[signal bough]

and does help bring him back from the dead

[split night]

does the crimes and the good deeds cancel out?

xd

we killed a sovereign, and then we saved a sovereign

does that count?

[spiral knoll]

we have a 400k enemies to lovers slowburn and then invite rhay and maxie to our wedding (trust)

[signal bough]

I think he doesn't like the player but it's not the burning hatred he once held

for all the times that the player and zhiraok have been in the same room I think there's like, one dialogue option with him?

[spiral knoll]

in all seriousness tho i think post-apotheosis hes sort of just. confused. at what the hell we've been doing. see: the confusion he has when faced with sui (a percieved "evil cursed one" saving auburn from being flooded) so i think eventually he'll come to realize what our end goal was and reasoning for killing those people but i dont think he's ever going to be able to forgive us (assuming he thinks about us much at all) for all the lives we took

those r my thoughts anyways

[split night]

I think explain to him that our ultimate motive of getting to Fruma was to get our friend back

but kinda accidentally set off a chain of events

that lead to the rebellion

would be funny

[spiral knoll]

LOL

[signal bough]

he can look at things objectively, he can see that the player wasn't really the cause of his issues. It was the pressure from the Queen and other sovereigns regarding the player that was most of it

[dim plover]

Wait I thought the Wings were the highest rank

[brittle prism]

wings are just elite

gendarme are

#1!

[spiral knoll]

lwokey i thought gendarme was just a fancy name for even fancier wings who protect the crown itself (aka aelumia)

[split night]

I think thes gendarme will be the Loyalist that will be leading the side of lost crown in the Fruma civil war

either that or they lost all direction and dissolve

xd

[spiral knoll]

from the royal library sd! taken from wiki

[limber swan]

https://youtu.be/hpE8_S2Y_rM

can anybody confirm if this is in the game yet

[split night]

pretty sure yeah

it's in echoes of changes

[limber swan]

good now we just gotta wait for the Tasim alt route

[signal bough]

so they're limited in territory, being present in just the Citadel, the Wings do have some other pockets in Auburn and what not, but it's clear to me the biggest loyalist redoubt is the wastelands

[split night]

Sugared is my pen name now
Salted's WynnCraft
Sugared's WynnSwap

it just make sense

i'm larping

[split night]

Oru leading the loyalist fighting against Zhiraok in Fruma Civil war

considering Oru sovereign time

i doubt he would change his mindset

about all this

xd

[signal bough]

this is why Fuhue is going to put the player and Rurie on a train and send them to Deraj

[hybrid gazelle]

Gendrame are aprt of wing yes

[hybrid gazelle]

pretty sure yeah consider how lancer would kill themselves than to be kill by you

they are indoctrinated hell and back

but then again Hyhet exist

I think there is possiblity some gendrame defact

[slim belfry]

Hyhet is probably a singular case since he witnessed a lot that others didn't

[signal bough]

fortunately, from what I know of that boss altar, Hyhet took care of a lot of them

[dim plover]

This is the boss of the Palace Guards world event right

The one with an actual name tied to them

[slim belfry]

boss altar

[dim plover]

oh right

[slim belfry]

that's Hyhet yes

[dim plover]

wait then who's the Palace Guards boss

I thought that was the leader of the Gendarme

[signal bough]

that WE looks to be the Kipchaks

is that in the book?

[dim plover]

Are the Kipchaks not Gendarme as well
They have the same color

[solid ibex]

just a commander

[hybrid gazelle]

no

the palace guard are constable

kipchak are constable

[signal bough]

not a single mention in that book

[solid ibex]

WE Alchemy gng has the gendarme guys

[hybrid gazelle]

if they are gendrame

they would ahve gendarme as part of their name

[dim plover]

Don’t they literally guard the palace

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah but guarding the palace does not mean you are gendarme

all gendrame guard the palace but not all guards in the palace are gendarme

[solid ibex]

some gendarme are inside the palace

[hybrid gazelle]

that why you see regional guard in there

[solid ibex]

ofc both raid and escape in that one quest

[slim belfry]

plus gendarme seem to be hyper specialized moreso than the others

heck look at the Jagaubis

the Caster

Blessed Soldiers during the raid

could go on with the world events too but I haven't done all of them

[hybrid gazelle]

and also like

you cant have every single guards in the citadel to be elite

you gotta hav esome

expendable goober to throw in and there

so someone can die for the elite

expendable unit always useful no matter the place and situation

[signal bough]

it seems to me that the Fruman military is generally unused to taking casualties

so its probably an issue of expense

[signal bough]

there's such a missed opportunity for a bullfrog boss

[brittle prism]

we aint fighting croaquin

hes our boy

[signal bough]

not croaquin

but like

horde of frogs

and then the room shakes

and then a Bullfrog appears

or is that too rat

[mystic remnant]

horde of frogs, room shakes, and then it's that one wave from swampland squabbles

[manic kraken]

have we ever had a dragon boss fight before?

[signal bough]

no, they are few and far between, and extremely powerful

[vapid path]

The old (removed) quest belly of the beast had us drugging ozoth à la Jonah and the Whale

Which is probably the closest you’re gonna get

[manic kraken]

bruh

we need a dragon boss right in fruma

[hybrid gazelle]

we did

in Frog Bog world event

we fought pseudo dragon

[manic kraken]

yea well fuck that we the players we grind panic zealots and nameless anomalies for breakfast

[hybrid gazelle]

there implciation there in Fruma there probably dead dragon somewhere there its excess energy transform the ecosystem

also dragons are nearly exinct

so having boss fight inda

not possible

[manic kraken]

brehhhhh

[hybrid gazelle]

and even more so that Fruma meant to be more "grounded"

as mention in the website

it mroe gritty and focus on grounded threat

which sound funny because there dinosaur but like from bigger picture

dinosaur is pretty fucking normal compare to one eye giant and humanoid bird thing

in gavel

[signal bough]

oh right, there are giant toads in armor

[hybrid gazelle]

because dinosaur are actually real

so we likely not getting any dragon boss fight unless wynncraft going to retcon that

[vapid path]

Also dragons in the lore are mostly benevolent (or at least sapient to the degree that they aren’t monsters to be slain)

[hybrid gazelle]

also draogns are mostly kaiju size

so having boss fight with them is like

diet TCC

reminder Ozoth is like

taking up entire space of the moutain

that just how big she is

farcor also very long

[vapid path]

^^ dragon skele in molten heights is big af too

[hybrid gazelle]

the only boss fight that probalby doable and fun is

fighting literal baby dragon

which is not an option

cause again

[manic kraken]

RELEASE THE BABY

[hybrid gazelle]

they are almost extinct

[manic kraken]

fuck that i want my dragon omlette

[vapid path]

Also is the dragon delta supposed to be a dead dragon?

[manic kraken]

https://tenor.com/view/omelette-egg-prepare-food-gif-7690570

[hybrid gazelle]

have no idea

[vapid path]

Or like, a partial corpse of one?

[hybrid gazelle]

but it not look like it alive

[signal bough]

I think people would prefer a colossal frog bossfight

[hybrid gazelle]

it look fucked up so we dont count it as alive

[manic kraken]

i ate it

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-rare-rare-dragon-gif-11114889

[signal bough]

PoV: you are Gikyo watching Croaquin emerge from the tar

[hybrid gazelle]

we probably getting wyvern, drake and other dragon descendent when gavel get rework tho

[vapid path]

“Awww my baby”

[hybrid gazelle]

that probably closet thing to dragon we gonna get

[manic kraken]

mmmm wyvern egg omlette

mmmm drake egg omletto

highkey they should add dragon egg omlettes into the game

[stray karma]

Just noticed Lunar Spine lore is in accordance with Majin lore

[zenith coral]

so he replaced his spine? id believe that

his height is proof enough

him experimenting on himself for the lolz

[stray karma]

Read weapon lore

[zenith coral]

ik thats not what happened

imagine tho

[stray karma]

He would

[mossy badge]

"The nether gate"

https://tenor.com/view/blow-the-dust-meme-good-old-days-nostalgia-old-gif-17831927821295204551

[tropic locust]

The Nether

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/minecraft-minecraft-movie-a-minecraft-movie-steve-jack-black-gif-8675616492999829547

[dim plover]

Let’s go back to old Wynncraft
Old Wynncraft-ify everything

Change all the mobs to vanilla mobs, not even armor stand models

[hybrid gazelle]

dont forget about racist sterotype

[dim plover]

No elements, all items are just neutral now and mobs have no ele stats

[hybrid gazelle]

and nothing burger world building

and mulit hit on every mobs

[dim plover]

The older version of Wynncraft is better because it had

I’m trying to find a joke example I genuinely got nothing

Old Wynncraft is just terrible compared to today

[dim plover]

Anyways I want to old-ify modern Wynncraft content for fun again, I did a few mobs like a year or so back

[hybrid gazelle]

the odler version of wynncraft is better because they just gonna make whole new province with 0 content and people will be happy with it

[dim plover]

I turned TNA into a Wither Skeleton holding a claw or smth like that

And The Eye was the Eye of Ender item on the ground

[slender patio]

Old wynn has its own charm

Since a MMORPG inside minecraft is a pretty novel thing back then

[mossy badge]

This sentence could be said about a lot of things anyway

[slim belfry]

anathema boss but it's a player model

[hybrid gazelle]

I think if wynncraft stay as what it was

it just gonna be monumenta lOL

[mossy badge]

🤔

[dim plover]

It’ll just be the screaming ghast

It’s like the biggest mob they have

That or they build Anathema out of blocks and then have the invisible mob in front

Like the old Eye

Or Anathema will be the Wither tbh

[frozen turtle]

They should just make a block which is just a giant mob with no animations and put it on a zombie

[dim plover]

Seems like something they’ll do

[slim belfry]

black geist level boss

[dim plover]

Wdym

I don’t understand that sentence

[frozen turtle]

Like change the resource pack of a bloc

And just make it a boss

Or smth

[dim plover]

Uh

Like, change the model of it?

[frozen turtle]

you can scale sizes in vanilla now at least

[mossy badge]

Black geist tuffest boss 🗿

[dim plover]

Into something that looks like a mob?

[frozen turtle]

Yeah easy peasy it’ll work

[dim plover]

Isn’t that literally just Titanium Rat

Wynncraft has done this before

[frozen turtle]

Ur just not seeing my vision

[mossy badge]

Textured falling sand 🤑

[dim plover]

If anything the mobs from today is literally what you said but with more than 1

[hybrid gazelle]

love how the moment htey know they can make anything with new mob system

they just re add dinosaur into the setting

[earnest prairie]

a dinosaur would be cool in wynncraft ngl

[hybrid gazelle]

there

ther arealdy is dinosaur in wynncraft lol

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/riddler-paul-dano-new-rockstars-thumbnail-does-he-know-he-doesnt-know-gif-27552850

Nah they too small fr

[slim belfry]

adasaur ❤️

[earnest prairie]

was it alive or dead?

[hybrid gazelle]

Adasaur

[mossy badge]

We need bigger ones

[hybrid gazelle]

Korviraptor

[mossy badge]

Have u not been to fruma

The mistwoods

[earnest prairie]

oh i forgot about those two

[mossy badge]

There are more than 2

[hybrid gazelle]

Sailsaur is a dinsoaur in spirit

it base on dimetrodon which is no a dinsaour

[mossy badge]

They just chickens 🔥

[hybrid gazelle]

but it prehistoric creature

[earnest prairie]

i havent ridden my adasaur bc im still on my chestnut horse

[hybrid gazelle]

that is similar to reptile

[earnest prairie]

REMEMBER. WHO. YOU. ARE!!!!

[hybrid gazelle]

actually

I wonder would this mean cockatrice is a cousin of korviraptor

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/remember-tribes-remember-who-you-are-tribes-3-tribes-1-gif-11942376031911380092

[mossy badge]

This is just a big chicken ❤️‍🩹

[earnest prairie]

grook are dinos confirmed

[mossy badge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1417197572891611136/1442671923824824402/ad48ff.gif

[earnest prairie]

realm of influence beast: chicken

[earnest prairie]

ngl to me thats just a gator

[hybrid gazelle]

it's dinosaur in spirit

[earnest prairie]

despite its name thats just a gator

[hybrid gazelle]

Wynn should have fossil undead dinosaur as stand in for dragon in medival fantasy

that would be badass

[earnest prairie]

that axalotl looking thing could pass as a dino tho

[hybrid gazelle]

that just giant salamander

so sure

[signal bough]

its the 2nd time I have experienced offbrand dinosaur names of real dinosaurs in a fictional setting

[earnest prairie]

ironic we have a volcano honestly yet no dragon. instead we get massive spooder

[hybrid gazelle]

becuase WYnn is more low fantasy

Dragons would bei n Gavel

and they mostly extinct

with population of single digit

[earnest prairie]

ah yes. Thanos dragon, that other dragon in rodoroc smwhere, and white dragon i forgot name of but hes there and apparently chinese dragon species

[hybrid gazelle]

they all under one dragon spieces

because dragons in Wynn are highly magical spieces

[signal bough]

wtf is a sycamore elk

[hybrid gazelle]

that does not follow conventional evolution or biology

[mossy badge]

Stag

[hybrid gazelle]

It's elk

that just mimicing a tree

that pretty much it

[earnest prairie]

no i was just saying chinese dragon bc its long not literal species

[hybrid gazelle]

Ozoth, Calix, and Farcor

[earnest prairie]

a horrible creature. hunt them to extinction so they dont ram ppl for 5k

[drifting aurora]

honestly i think its fine to not have any proper dragon mobs

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah beside

dragon in wynncraft are like kaiju size

imagine having that as boss fight

[earnest prairie]

i mean. anathema exists so i can actually

[hybrid gazelle]

Anathema is a raid fight

she got her own arena

[drifting aurora]

it could be cool, but theres plenty of other cool things we can do aswell

[hybrid gazelle]

that exist outside of the world map

[hybrid gazelle]

I think it cooler with limitation

[earnest prairie]

i thought u meant imagine fighting a boss that size

[hybrid gazelle]

creativity tend to come from limitation

just like monste rhunter

mosnter hunter dont really have include dragon lightly

mostly it just wyverns or something that similar to dragons

[drifting aurora]

it could be cool to have farcor visible flying in the sky islands sometimes

[hybrid gazelle]

but would not that like

[earnest prairie]

ooh kinda like BOTW with theirs?

[hybrid gazelle]

pretty much making flying groostlang as background peice lOL

is not grootslang really performance heavy?

[hybrid gazelle]

anathema is smaller than Ozoth

so no

dragon is literally just that big

literally only thing that bigger than we fought in game rn is TCC

that literally the only thing

Ozoth size take up pretty much the entire top of the mountain

[earnest prairie]

tcc deserves legs

poor dude cant exercise

[hybrid gazelle]

this entire spire take up by Ozoth

that how big she is

[drifting aurora]

sort of but i think youre misremembering a thing i said

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah I likely did

[drifting aurora]

what youre thinking of is me saying that we cant just apply worm ai to any mob

it needs to be a special case in a controlled environment

[hybrid gazelle]

oh that

what happen if you just let grootslang run around in uncontrol enviroment hto

[drifting aurora]

by controlled environment i mean

sigh nevermind i dont actually feel like explaining this

[hybrid gazelle]

fair enough

[drifting aurora]

grootslang works because its a raid

[hybrid gazelle]

I see

[earnest prairie]

is the statement about the sky islands for farcor worded like a sightseeing event?

[drifting aurora]

explaining is too much effort so eh just forget i said it

its a thought i had a few years back that ive never properly looked into

[earnest prairie]

mhmhm

[limber swan]

or oozoth flying in the canyon of the lost

[drifting aurora]

that ones harder

or maybe easier

depends on the perspective

[hybrid gazelle]

actually wait

what the reason for Colossus to not use model in overworld again?

is it just rendering issue?

[drifting aurora]

rendering issue

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah fair enough

[limber swan]

oh yeah btw

[drifting aurora]

we might be able to get around it now though. we do something funky with the fruma gate to load the block ver until youre close enough

[limber swan]

I'm super glad they added the colossal cores back to TCC

[hybrid gazelle]

ooo

so that how it work

question

is Fruma mini door on the gate still canon

[drifting aurora]

we'd need to make a version of the model that properly integrates into the blocks ay the bottom tho

[hybrid gazelle]

Fruma gate before the release is so fucking funny

[drifting aurora]

i mean. yeah? actually does AJH still have the knock option

[hybrid gazelle]

because it's giant as door with smaller door at the bottom

LOL

[drifting aurora]

xao steps through the small door to intro zhiraok

even if you dont visually see that happen

small door is for general use, big door for large events

you need to get the guards out somehow and logistically opening the full gate every time is kind of messy

[hybrid gazelle]

I see

I liek the idea of Xima constable just have 0 idea wtf going on beyond the gate

so when player open the gate, they just go "huh something big sure happening"

it like the same case in Price of Ingenunity where constables just could not be bother doing their job LMAOOO

[drifting aurora]

i feel like you can handwave the proper gate opening post-apotheosis as a temp thing until we get the epilogue out

so its not gonna make a ton of story sense cause stuff is missing

[hybrid gazelle]

that fair

I cant wait for the epliogue

is epliogue gonna be minor update

like its own minor update or just a patch

[limber swan]

probably a year from now

[drifting aurora]

shrug

[hybrid gazelle]

actually I dont even know what the different between minor update and a patch at this point

let me check

[limber swan]

whenever 2.3 comes out

[hybrid gazelle]

nvm I know now

it just 2.2.0_xx

cant wait for 2.2.1 I guess

[drifting aurora]

hotfixes

[earnest prairie]

probably b4 gta 6

[mossy badge]

Nah

[drifting aurora]

when we return to the regular patch schedule, those are gonna be 2.2.x

[hybrid gazelle]

I still surpirse that lootrun update is classified as minor update LOL

[limber swan]

they probably wanted fruma to be 2.1

but ehhhhh

I think Fruma is better as 2.2

[earnest prairie]

i never remember patch schedules bc stuff always gets pushed back by a week or two for triple check errors but what is it normally?

[limber swan]

like every month

they haven't annonced one for this month though

[drifting aurora]

its when we'll start posting patch notes a few days in advance

[hybrid gazelle]

actually Lexnt who is your favorite protrait so far

[limber swan]

so I would assume they aren't doing those until the summer

[drifting aurora]

we were doing them every 2 weeks for a while but i think we'll probably stick with 1 every month

[drifting aurora]

idk

[hybrid gazelle]

damn

[drifting aurora]

xima is very punchable

[earnest prairie]

cant wait for my wynntils to break next patch and i have to feel weird not seeing my minimap

[hybrid gazelle]

HOnestly it so nice to see that all just named character have protrait and history LOL

cause for someone like Nilrem or Cerid

they IMPLY to exist but they exist exclusively in specific content

[drifting aurora]

cerid is at least a real character

nilrem is just nothing

[hybrid gazelle]

I geniunely do not remember Cerid much but then again

it was during Corkus so I did not pay attention much to the story at that time

[limber swan]

yeah he could just be replaced by Old Man Martynn or smth

[hybrid gazelle]

It so Nilremover,,,,

at this point I just have Nilrem as my oc

[slim belfry]

merlin backwards 🔥

[hybrid gazelle]

if Nilrem get expanded upon and he not a villager

I just gonna turn my nilrem into his own OC

[drifting aurora]

the letters discovery is kinda. sloppy. to be honest

it just dumps all the letters on you anticlimacticly

[slim belfry]

gosh yeah

[hybrid gazelle]

it is yeah

Nilrem not being a character also just

make it so empty

like who the fuck is Nilrem??

[slim belfry]

some dropped onto the floor because my inventory was full at the time too lol

[hybrid gazelle]

Bob said that they were tasked to help Wynn

[limber swan]

yeah and plus it doesn't fit with the current WOTR lore

[hybrid gazelle]

but we literally do not see anything that trace back to them

at all

that why I make nilrem in my take a vilalger who is the primary figure of bringing magic to Wynn proviunce

[drifting aurora]

ehhh i dont remember the letters having anything egregiously wrong

[limber swan]

oh ye ur right

sorry

I had a Mandela effect there lmao

[hybrid gazelle]

I gotta revisit Nilrem more

Maybe redwesing him but IDk

I like his current design

[earnest prairie]

“no luke”

[hybrid gazelle]

I gotta draw mroe Aminah,,,

Also Lexnt what your opinion of turning gun into focus

[drifting aurora]

sure

[hybrid gazelle]

I eating the new magic lore and tryign to think rn how could I experiment with it

[limber swan]

magic gun lmao

[earnest prairie]

wait i just realized or had a thought. could be both. was lexdale named after u lexnt?

[drifting aurora]

it was not

[hybrid gazelle]

gun as focus can have so much ptotential in the setting

[drifting aurora]

iirc the ct member was Alexandress or something along those lines

[hybrid gazelle]

like imagine magic user can lessen overheat on their gun

[slim belfry]

I feel like gun as a focus could be an existing thing somewhere in fruma

[hybrid gazelle]

or expel the overheat on the barrel

[earnest prairie]

ok coincidence then

[limber swan]

they always name towns after builders

[hybrid gazelle]

or charge magic into their ammunition

and fire them

I give my Arcanist OC a dragon gun as one of her ivnention

but overall I just imagine she just using staff

my archetype is more grounded to the lore so they can pull shit like meteor and teleport out of the blue

that mostly riftwalker

I iimagine the idea of meteor spell can be replicated through fireball or just lifting big chunk of earth

but actual meteor spell would be from cosmic magic

you know like

[earnest prairie]

where do those meteors come from anyways? do we make them or r we just pulling them from the sky

[hybrid gazelle]

trying to make describe spell is so hard

but for me I just think it's a technique

[drifting aurora]

i figure its a manifested projectile

[hybrid gazelle]

that work too

[drifting aurora]

not an actual meteor

[earnest prairie]

creation then got it

[hybrid gazelle]

cosmic magic manifesting meteor sound cool

like imagine using infinite cosmo as in literal sense

by teleporting meteor from deeper space into the world

[earnest prairie]

ask majin that for an answer

oh wait. we cant

[drifting aurora]

i mean yea sure i just dont think base meteor spell works that way

[hybrid gazelle]

I know I just think it would be cool

[drifting aurora]

like you Could use cosmic magic to summon a real meteor

or something that acts like one

a lot more destructive tho

[earnest prairie]

like fujitora from one piece that one time

[hybrid gazelle]

I gotta refine magic system more

maybe when I am done with rewriting Wynn stuff for wartorn

cause I feel liek I SHOULD do general stuff first

before move on to specific

[full jackal]

I guess this is a work in progress or something

Some parts look really weird I think

[zenith coral]

the spear is too short imo

[zenith coral]

what about the cosmic madness

[limber swan]

I feel like Tasim is in his 20s

even with that beard

I don't see him being older than 25

most Fruma recruits we meet except Kymer and Picard are pretty young

[slim belfry]

Tasim being me age is something I have not considered

but it does fit

seems like many of them range 18-25

[warm flicker]

not wearing morph? Unacceptable

[regal spire]

Y’know, you don’t see a lot of children in Wynn

[dim plover]

I wonder if the Queen will be the only one in the game with a custom portrait position

[warm flicker]

also, had a dream last night where time valley got a lore update in the form of various tablets found across the area, and if u click one of them u get a scene of an Olm doing what the tablet is explaining. For example, one tablet showed an Olm who looked exactly like Tefris and how the valley has a lot of oil that the Olm drilled and use for power

[regal spire]

You could probably count on your hands the number of child NPC’s

[dim plover]

Imagine if certain villains in the future get the same treatment as the Queen

[dim plover]

Qira is actually approximately 3 in Dernic Spider years

(Yes a third of the community is going to prison)

[regal spire]

She’s actually 2 Qira years old

[dim plover]

I like the implication that Qira is just the name of her species

[regal spire]

Well, it makes sense that she’s something unique

[dim plover]

I’m not actually sure what I’m going to think if Qira turns out to be like, an ex-human/ literally just human

[clear scaffold]

i always assumed qira was from dern

[slim belfry]

I wonder if based on the hive shops she's a manaweaver

[clear scaffold]

or at least related to it

[dim plover]

Maybe it’s because it’s probably the most predictable “first guess” sorta assumption when you learn about Qira’s appearance but the thing is that inadvertently turns it back into the most unpredictable thing ever

[clear scaffold]

i wonder how significant she will be with the main plot tbh

[dim plover]

My sick cool headcanon was that she’s from Dern
Gone With The Wind has this as a major plot point as well because she actively begins disintegrating the moment she steps into the Realm of Light

Hive Drabbles Golemus Story + New Fruma update kinda gives really strong evidence that she might actually have been a human though

Or like, a changeling

Or whatever in Fruma looks humanoid

Idk maybe Wastelands will give us smth

[clear scaffold]

she defintely isn't a changeling

[dim plover]

Yeah but like

If the Golemus story is talking about Fruma then what the hell is she

[full jackal]

What golems story

[clear scaffold]

don't think fruma gives any indication qira's human? Does give gale backstory.

[dim plover]

If she didn’t used to look like they way she is now (A human-looking woman with ebony skin) then she most likely has to be a human during her time with Alive Gale and Ohms

Again, assuming the Golemus story refers to Fruma

I still don’t know whether I can use that as canon info or not

[clear scaffold]

don't really tbh