📚lore_discussion

[zenith coral]

anathema remarks that orphion and saphanis shuodl be scared asf about us

[sick quest]

Random weird magical void nobody thing that the PC is

Corrupted EO would just be rly cool

[zenith coral]

void connections ig, the plot for s2 of wynncraft is obv the corrupted influences and who gave saphanis this new power

so we hunt down the investor

[sick quest]

Silverbull

[zenith coral]

imagine. the thing that lets saphanis tilt the scale of an unwinnable war is money

[sick quest]

IRL canon

[zenith coral]

its prolly corruption tho

and human strategies

[sick quest]

Silverbull has a lootrun camp in Lutho because they signed a contract w dern

Saphanis is a stakeholder in silverbull and silverbull is dern’s chief contractor

[zenith coral]

you guys think the dern arc will involve qira

cuz she seems to be a big 'ILL BE IMPORTANT LATER' thats hammered into your face again and again

[sick quest]

Id be interested if that did happen w how disconnected/connected qira is

[zenith coral]

like all of the hive says 'this is something that will be relevant at a later point'

[sick quest]

Also Qiras a rly interesting powerhouse

[zenith coral]

shes also a big spider in the ceiling

[sick quest]

And could easily be the starting point of how many fucking spiders are all over wynncraft

[zenith coral]

that wears its 'powerlimiter trademarked' on what is effectiveley a puppet

[sick quest]

There are so many loose threads that kinda all lead towards dern

Bak’al, Lari, Dullahan, Orphion, Qira(?), Two, etc etc etc

[zenith coral]

i hc qira to come from before the first clash of orphion and saphanis when the world was in its 'prime age where everything is bigger and stronger and monsters roamed the earth' she then got massive ptsd and hid away to prepare for the next clash

[sick quest]

I wonder if after Dern the Wynncraft team will consider investing more in all the weird different space teases

[zenith coral]

also maybe she helped one of the sides beliveing them to be good only to get screwed by eldritch morality (hence the chestplate description)

[sick quest]

The moon, gravity magic, aliens, the cow people and drale, etc

[zenith coral]

like i said thats for s2

[sick quest]

Majin

[zenith coral]

i want a full space-acid trip

like insane lore

[sick quest]

Probably finish off Fruma/Corkus—> full revision of a lot of the stuff (especially RoL, SE, and the ocean)—> Corruption—> Dern—> Void—> Space?

[zenith coral]

is void just space?

[sick quest]

Void is the space underneath/inside the wynncraft world

The space exposed in SE and in sky islands

[zenith coral]

well is wynncraft round?

[sick quest]

The age old question

Space/orbit implies round

[zenith coral]

like if space and void arent connected then thats insane

[zenith coral]

or a block it would be the same imo

[sick quest]

Sky islands are pretty physics-breaking

Same w SE

Unless you consider the void a break along a different axis/physical dimension

[zenith coral]

like either way unless wynncraft is so large it effectiveley is the dividing line across all of creation between space and void they are the same

[sick quest]

Unless its a hollow earth situation

Either wynncraft is kinda a flat plane or a hollow sphere

Also the sky is different in void versus space

Void is gray/purple, space is black

Void is affected by sunlight

[regal spire]

The fact that Anathema implies it can “end their war” means that a corrupted EO is actually potentially possible

[sick quest]

Ayyyyy thank you yeah u right u right

Another win for team C!EO in the forgery

[zenith coral]

you could theoretically end their war by blowing up the setting (we still dont have the name for the setiing AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH)

[sick quest]

Wdym the setting? The physical plane?

[regal spire]

Corrupted EO is just the floating remnant of EO in the void

[zenith coral]

yeah we have no idea what se settings name

[regal spire]

All covered in corrupted blocks, with bits of darkness still peaking through

[regal spire]

It’s called the road to Dern

[sick quest]

Craft

Wynncraft because we are in the province of wynn in the world of craft

[zenith coral]

not se. i meant the setting. the world. we cant call it wynn. thats just a nation

[sick quest]

We can also just call the physical plane yaoi

With how doomed it is

[regal spire]

It’s called Wynncraft

[zenith coral]

in-universe

whats the name of the planet

[sick quest]

We never get one

[zenith coral]

which is kinda crazy

[regal spire]

Earth

[sick quest]

I mean if we ever get a space!update we will get one

[zenith coral]

anyway next expansion is morgor obvs

[sick quest]

Next update is the gay update (tasim and aledar kiss)

[zenith coral]

for that to happen we have to kill off tasim

which is prolly gonna happen

[sick quest]

I dont mind this at all

Do we have any idea when we’ll get wastelands

[zenith coral]

next week

no idea tho

i just want the dang epilogue

[sick quest]

Hopefully before 2027

Fr

Well I hope wastelands is tied into epilogue

And epilogue is tied into corkus

[zenith coral]

its crazy that fruma just ends like that. we need a epilogue

[zenith coral]

no spoilers for that pls

[sick quest]

Because no way the entire fruma storyline excludes corkus

[zenith coral]

corkus update with the seaparatists when

[sick quest]

Only epilogue thing we have so far is w tasim (go check where the leaves storyline started)

[zenith coral]

ik

theres also the locked door thats prolly hylochs ultimate disc

[rustic nexus]

not exactly

those aren't the void itself, but more areas between the phyisical realm/dern and the actual void

the actual void is that, just void. nothingness. null.

it's the thing between the realms and the planes of influence/physicality

[sick quest]

Oh ye i hadnt even thought abt the rune door being the ult

I just assumed rune door was wastelands/dern related

[rustic nexus]

it's like the most ult coded area ever

[zenith coral]

i hope we get mindblowing lore

[rustic nexus]

though where the ults for the other regions will be I'm unsure

[zenith coral]

and not something boring

[rustic nexus]

it has to be insane

otherwise we riot

at the very least, it should be hype moments and aura

[zenith coral]

prolly something with the old gods and old fruma

also we will raid syndras grave for a ultimate discovery

[rustic nexus]

for auburn ult discovery there's like

[paper wyvern]

Would be cool if all the ults were tied to the god of the region

[rustic nexus]

only one thing worth showing imo

[paper wyvern]

And the ults tell the fall of old fruma

[zenith coral]

i heard someone say well get anathemas view of fruma and a timelapse through its history but that would be boring

[sick quest]

Do we actually think the ults will be divided by region tho? Like there arent that many fruma sds

[rustic nexus]

we don't need a timelapse or anything

[paper wyvern]

With the highlands ult also showing the queens coronation

[rustic nexus]

there's some that aren't added yet apparently

so like

don't worry

[sick quest]

I wonder if the final ult will be the queen arriving in ancient fruma

[zenith coral]

maybe we will see the moment bak'al bails on anathema

[rustic nexus]

for auburn, the ult would either be the flood or the destruction of the temple that used to be in place of fort torann

or both

cuz like what else would it be

[zenith coral]

a very dramatic breakup of anathema and bak'al

[rustic nexus]

in auburn 😭

[zenith coral]

yes. anathema gets ntrd

hence her dislike of auburn and why she decided to flood it

she got ntrd by saphanis in public

[rustic nexus]

"dislike of auburn"

😭

it's like the only region she has shown genuine love to

[zenith coral]

dislike of the previous auburn. she had to flood it or the rumors of her being a cuck would spreadd

[shut mist]

Doesent she love it tho, she only flood it cuz of the resistance

[rustic nexus]

yeah

[zenith coral]

thats a cover-up

[rustic nexus]

the flooding was because of the opposition

the resistance killed xima thalas

[zenith coral]

she got broken up with by bak'al who got seduced by saphanis and gets ntrd in full view of everyone in auburn, she floods auburn and blames the resistance to coverup her being a cuck

this is canon

its in the lore

[rustic nexus]

anyway, for the industrial district I have no idea what the ult discovery would be

[shut mist]

Soosu getting blessed ig

[rustic nexus]

like, the gradual industrialization and the change from the agricultural district of old into what the roughworks are now?

[shut mist]

Or the moment she becomes a soveraign

[zenith coral]

probably soosus childhood and how the district changed from farms to modern day

[rustic nexus]

and maybe what happened to the previous sovereign of the region

yea that's like

the only thing I can imagine it being

or a deeper dive into soosu's character

[zenith coral]

also glorifying child labour but thats never here or there

[rustic nexus]

for the mistwoods....

hmmm

[zenith coral]

how bout soosu finding her best friends corpse that died of old age

[zenith coral]

probably old fruma lore

and canopy shapeshifter stuff

[rustic nexus]

she already did in a sense, she saw how old she had gotten while she remained ageless

[shut mist]

Maybe mist its soveraign caetal getting killed offscreen. By queen

[zenith coral]

yeah animate that

[rustic nexus]

OHH SHIIT TRUE

CAETAL LORE WOULD GO HARD

maybe the formation of the clans originally

[zenith coral]

soosu then kills off her best accidentally cuz she is new to her powers (she just wanted to hug them and they died due to matter erasure)

[shut mist]

We know he disapeared after the first wicker spark discovery

[rustic nexus]

yea

so like

something happened

👀

[shut mist]

Ye

[zenith coral]

you think he was a changeling

[rustic nexus]

no

[shut mist]

No

[rustic nexus]

caetal literally burns a changeling alive

[shut mist]

Why would a changeling kill a changeling

[rustic nexus]

the first changeling spy to die

[zenith coral]

you sure? cuz bailing right when everyone finds out about changelings seems sus as fffffffffff

[paper wyvern]

Yeah the discovery is called first wickers spark for a reason

[paper wyvern]

I bet it was gikyo

[shut mist]

Yeah he died

[paper wyvern]

Or azael

[shut mist]

Probably

[rustic nexus]

I don't think azael would've killed caetal

[zenith coral]

azael was caetal obvs

[rustic nexus]

since he was sided with the clans

[zenith coral]

the queen prolly punished him for the changelings being discovered

[shut mist]

Azael wouldve sided with caetal

Probably

[rustic nexus]

yeah

he does in the discovery

"it's only natural that this would've happened"

or whatever he says

[shut mist]

Yeah

+fuhue tortures changeling

In the canopy

[rustic nexus]

and then gikyo gets mad because the clans were coocoo enough to have a ritual burning

it's fuhue

[zenith coral]

was the guy who burned the first changeling even caetal? what if it was a changeling impersonating him and he died alot earlier but was replaced

[rustic nexus]

yes

it was

[shut mist]

Damn typos

If it was a changeling, they wouldve stalled

To try and break ophir out

[zenith coral]

https://giphy.com/gifs/invincible-are-you-sure-omniman-Ogt2VcqU5SLuumSdZx

[rustic nexus]

idr the timeline from the aelumia library but like

[shut mist]

Yeah

[rustic nexus]

wasn't caetal the mistwoods sovereign for like

a while before the changelings program

[shut mist]

Yeah

[rustic nexus]

ok tbh we don't know when that started anyway

but like

ophir, azael, gikyo

were some of the first if not the first changeling spies

[shut mist]

Yes

[zenith coral]

the changelings were orignially meant to be masks for the nobility that change on command for fancy parties

[shut mist]

No ?

[zenith coral]

did you not read the lore

[rustic nexus]

what in the piles of asriel's dust are you talking about

[zenith coral]

this is canon obs

[rustic nexus]

where is anything like that written

😭

[shut mist]

Anyways

[zenith coral]

inside anathemas diary

[rustic nexus]

highlands likely won't have a secret discovery, will likely just share aelumia's one

which likely won't be for the regions themselves

[shut mist]

Highlands could be a few things. Like gale getting out of fruma or queens arrival

[zenith coral]

btw why arent there silk moths in fruma

[paper wyvern]

I don't think we need gale leaving fruma it's pretty clear in the diary

[zenith coral]

they were a fruma pet yet they dont pop up

[shut mist]

Yeah but then again

[rustic nexus]

I definitely think it's gonna be the queen's initial arrival to fruma and her fight against the "cursed" (aka the old fruma bak'al hated)

and the beginning of the royal age

[shut mist]

We dident need the corkians origin cutscene cuz we know from the library in corkus

[rustic nexus]

well

[shut mist]

But we got it

[rustic nexus]

we did learn something from that discovery's cutscene though

[zenith coral]

i think unironically we could get a bak'al appearance. whether its the moment he betrays everyone or something similar is up to speculation

[rustic nexus]

passing through the mountains wasn't what wiped their memories

[regal spire]

It’s behind the rune door

You know it’s open now, right?

[rustic nexus]

which is what is implied by the relos library

[zenith coral]

indeed it describes things like the queens body still emitting spores like a moth

[shut mist]

Fair enough

[paper wyvern]

Interesting question, when did silent expanse's secret happen

[zenith coral]

and her being forever stinky cuz of it

[rustic nexus]

unknown

[regal spire]

Is this scratch 😭

[zenith coral]

after you kill the eye

[rustic nexus]

but like

[shut mist]

?????

What

[rustic nexus]

I think it's around 0ap-800ap

[zenith coral]

non-linear eldritch horror perspective, you see through the eye of the dern beast

[shut mist]

Yeah ? But its not after, its way way before

[zenith coral]

why you dont immediateley pour your brains out is anyones guess

[paper wyvern]

I would put 200ap-800ap to leave time for bakals initial attacks and the silent expanse to actually fall

[rustic nexus]

ye ye I just realized

writing sth

[zenith coral]

didnt you pay attention to the dialogue? db clearly says he always needs an observer and one of them just died so we need a new one, this foreshadows a second eye

[paper wyvern]

Please ignore the bait

[shut mist]

What are you smoking

[zenith coral]

trauma from playing enderal

[gleaming apex]

Actually Saphanis has a toothache and that's why they're mean

[zenith coral]

BRING ME A NICE CRISPY PIECE OF MEAT

[unique jungle]

hi its me sth
someone called?

[rustic nexus]

so like, in the light forest secret discovery, we are shown when the parasite attaches itself onto orphion, and also in that cutscene we see saphanis and orphion, where saphanis gloats about the eye already being in EO and gazing at the physical plane, and the eye is depicted in it's full size
we also need to have saphanis trust bak'al, and bak'al sided with saphanis, so definitely after anathema begins her reign of fruma and betrays bak'al

[zenith coral]

indeed saphanis teeth have eyes in them imagine if everytime you chew you bite on one of your eyes

[rustic nexus]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1490018575162020042/1495472403910754516/Video_Project_10.gif

[zenith coral]

does saphanis trust bak'al tho

[rustic nexus]

clearly it does

if he was sent to protect the parasite from lari

and to place the eye in EO

[paper wyvern]

Which leaves 200ishap to 800 ap

[rustic nexus]

yeah

[gleaming apex]

And eyeball plants irl were used for toothaches. So Saphanis is trying to grow super eyeball plants for their super toothache

[shut mist]

Also i feel like bak’al could get obliterated by saphanis whenever hes not needed anymore

[zenith coral]

nah bak'al will stab saphanis from behind and become the final villain

[shut mist]

Wouldent solve anything

Hes just gonna come back

As a blank slate

[zenith coral]

saphanis calling us old sport was foreshadowing all along

https://giphy.com/gifs/eggplant-143SvlwljAUXMk

[shut mist]

...

[rustic nexus]

eyes inside of teeth you say....
🎩
🇮🇩
👀
🇵🇱

[slender copper]

They called us what? 😭

[zenith coral]

we need to lobotomize him clearly

and theres only one thing that can do that

[shut mist]

...

[slender copper]

I can't tell if this needs a moderator ping or not- and it's gone.

[gleaming apex]

Bak'al actually wants a new eyeball from Saphanis because that big one is really itchy all the time

[shut mist]

I dont even know whats going on anymore

[zenith coral]

the secre to posting stuff like this is removing it yourself obvs

[sick quest]

???

[rustic nexus]

what do we think the wastelands' ultimate discovery will be if it has one

:)

[sick quest]

rip my boy

[shut mist]

Us being in there for 0,5 seconds

[rustic nexus]

he's no longer running the show

[zenith coral]

its gikyo after surviving throwing a party with newborn changelings where they eat humans (my cannibal gikyo agenda still goes strong)

[sick quest]

i think one of the ult discoveries will be anathema arriving

[gleaming apex]

Project whatsitsname with the changelings and stuff

[slender copper]

They posted something... visually gross and deleted it.

[shut mist]

Hollowground

[rustic nexus]

yeah that's most likely gonna be the aelumia one

[sick quest]

his song was so good

[rustic nexus]

hallowground feels like a thing that could be it's own quest

not just a secret/ult discovery

[shut mist]

Imagine if soveraign selium is alive

[rustic nexus]

definitely not

[gleaming apex]

Yeah but detailed logs of it could work for a secret discovery ig

[rustic nexus]

but maybe a changeling took his form...

[zenith coral]

he prolly is

[shut mist]

He might be ...

[rustic nexus]

I can imagine a normal secret discovery showing the emergence of changelings from the tar pits

[shut mist]

Or a secret discovery to find his body

[sick quest]

the alternate universe with sovereign syndra and sovereign PC

[zenith coral]

i actually thought when we met syndra she was an ex sovereign

[shut mist]

With zhiraok as a gendarme commander

[rustic nexus]

I would not like to imagine what a sovereign syndra would be like.......

definitely not like our syndra

[gleaming apex]

Sovereign susdra

[rustic nexus]

and probably way, WAYYYYYY more loyal to the crown

[zenith coral]

being everyones mother?

[shut mist]

Elise in wynn too

[rustic nexus]

OH GOD YEAH

ELISE WOULD NEED TO BE SENT TO WYNN FOR THIS REALITY

😭

[sick quest]

lowkey sovereign syndra would consider her region all her children and be kinda obsessively protective/controlling

[zenith coral]

like i said

[sick quest]

yeah

[shut mist]

That or in deraj

[zenith coral]

toxic motherhood

[shut mist]

Probably wynn. Tho

[rustic nexus]

so wynn or wynn

yea

[zenith coral]

so she hooks up with ragnis king ig

[rustic nexus]

if you're sent to deraj, you're likely gonna be sent to wynn

[shut mist]

Well

Maybe

But

[rustic nexus]

or just used as workforce for mining in the district

[sick quest]

do we think deraj is the prison we saw in the flashbacks

[shut mist]

Steel feather gang dident

[shut mist]

It is

[rustic nexus]

nothing else it can be

it has to be it

[sick quest]

mightve been before they could get the chance

[rustic nexus]

wasn't the steel feather kept in there to maybe gain info

[shut mist]

Then again ... they mention being forced to work

[rustic nexus]

yea

[zenith coral]

it could be majins prison ig

[rustic nexus]

all prisoners are forced to work

[shut mist]

If your cursed you get sent to wynn

[sick quest]

it wouldve been cool if like one of the steel feather people were sent to wynn

and we had a questline intersecting fruma & wynn

[shut mist]

No

[rustic nexus]

one npc does get sent to wynn in all of the fruma quests

[zenith coral]

this may have happened and we couldnt know

[shut mist]

Yeah, effal

[sick quest]

what abt that random sus guy from steel feather

[shut mist]

To get his memory wiped

[rustic nexus]

jiro?

[sick quest]

the ninja that syndra kept talking to

ye

[rustic nexus]

he was killed and replaced by a changeling

[zenith coral]

replaced by a changeling apparentley

[rustic nexus]

that's how the crown found out the plan

[sick quest]

ohhhhh

[zenith coral]

no idea where we learn that

[sick quest]

how did we find that out?!?!

[zenith coral]

idk

[rustic nexus]

suggested

at some point he doesn't remember the incident we had with zeph and yuman

and is unusually calm

and then is "very unlike himself"

as stated by npcs

it's not outright stated but it's implied

[zenith coral]

ok

[sick quest]

wonder if he'll show up in deraj (if the changeling didnt kill him)

[rustic nexus]

he was likely killed

I'm ngl

[sick quest]

thats disappointing

he was lowkey being hyped up to be all mysterious and cool

[rustic nexus]

yeah they really should like

show him as a changeling at least

[zenith coral]

all changelings just act like edgelords apparentley

[rustic nexus]

ok but he wasn't a changeling in all of our interactions

[zenith coral]

dont you remember that time elise was canonically impersonated by a changeling and syndra killed it

i will continue to spread true information

[sick quest]

yeah like anathema is a changeling

thats how she became a giant butterfly

[zenith coral]

do you think the spores anathema emits are used in her perfume

the people in hyloch seem to love this perfume

i think its a mind-control scheme by anathema

anyone who uses her perfume will slowly become corrupted and thus fall under her influence

[shut mist]

That one guy in hyloch hating the new style thats morph

Im not joking

[zenith coral]

thats just a player who reincarnated in wynn

[shut mist]

No

[zenith coral]

the morph set comes from fruma in-lore ig.

[shut mist]

Theres an npc that complains about people walking in gold boots chain leggings Grey chestplate and blue helmet

[zenith coral]

i guess the metamorphosis on the stage thing teased morph lore

[zenith coral]

yeah ik. ig the gear we use in-universe is the morph set

thats canon. its in the lore

[full bough]

no way thats so peak

[shut mist]

Yeah its funny

[full bough]

world building locked in so hard for fruma fr

[shut mist]

Their near the paper shop

In hyloch

[limber swan]

damn who would be leading the auburn resistance in this AU?

[shut mist]

No one

[limber swan]

there would still need to be a resistance though

for the story to work

[shut mist]

No resistance, new story

We just go berserk and kill everything

[zenith coral]

tasim

[earnest prairie]

ngl the wynncraft trailer did a good job misdirecting me on expectations of fruma

[zenith coral]

me too. where did we get tasim killing wing soldiers from

[earnest prairie]

i was expecting a tournament to spiral out of control, marked as enemies, team up with resistance fighters, then rebel agains the queen as the province fall into anarchy

[summer bluff]

What are you yapping about

[earnest prairie]

anathema moth water

smth smth corruption blood or whatever

[summer bluff]

Aaaaaand that's enough for me to leave

[earnest prairie]

i apologize :C

[dim plover]

https://i.imgur.com/488qm4Y.gif
https://i.imgur.com/pq4i2UU.gif
https://i.imgur.com/iS2HMJc.gif

[earnest prairie]

wait do realm beasts even bleed if u cut them tho? or do they just kinda got that disintegrating effect on the areas they got cut?

[digital swan]

yessir number 3

[gleaming wyvern]

Wasn't that the players reaction to seeing said new style in a newspaper?
Also no new morph for level 112 smh my head.

[formal bridge]

Morph weapon pentafecta for all classes

[zenith coral]

make it a mythic that makes morph top-tier

[shut mist]

No its an npc

[slender copper]

Is it? I think I have a screenshot of the dialog they're talking about.

[shut mist]

I remember it being an npc

[split night]

and call it Metamorphosis

[paper wyvern]

Let us ascend morph

[slender copper]

Found it.

[shut mist]

Damn

[full jackal]

Nooo not the wynncraft abprtoon comic

[shut mist]

Looks like i was wrong

[split night]

<Characer> canonically dislike Morph set

[slender copper]

Speaks of news articles, do we get any more information on whoever this guy is?

[signal bough]

what

didnt see that

[slim belfry]

you can probably interpret as
"who the heck is making these morph is bad"
or
"who the heck is making these how do they know about the amazing morph"

[slim belfry]

watch this video
https://youtu.be/4BaZ_86LDr0

[paper wyvern]

That's a joke about server ads using an old taism skin

[slender copper]

Oh, there's two areas (that I know of) that have these articles, one in Hyloch and the other near the gates of Aelumia.

[signal bough]

I know the timasca and hyloch ones

[slender copper]

The first frame and I was like "So this is where it comes from"

That's hilarious that they included it in the articles.

[mossy widget]

tasim is for some reason in many different minecraft mod ads

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/752301509089427486/1490542310746886215/ezgif-4ed59011b0b604fe.gif

[regal spire]

Why he so tuff?

[vestal rivet]

he just like
copyright free?

[untold warren]

You can't really copyright a Minecraft skin

[vestal rivet]

why him then

if you could use literally any

[untold warren]

He's sexy, wdym

https://tenor.com/view/cat-throwing-brick-brick-cat-gif-9142560192559212520

[slender copper]

Imagine if we had Tasim with us when looking at the articles, he would probably have a slight panic attack.

[shut mist]

Not another changeling ...

[slim belfry]

changelings for the movie industry

crazy effective

[slender copper]

Man the amount of labor these changelings are put through-

[atomic hamlet]

Syndra being a Sovereign and Zhiraok being the resistance leader would be fun

Peasant uplifted to Sovereign versus disgraced noble turned rebel

[rustic nexus]

ts!fruma

no way

wynnswap

[drifting aurora]

science has been searching for an answer for years

[exotic bough]

smth smth life imitates art or however that saying goes

[dim plover]

Maybe I'm too cold and dead inside but I feel like the text the game provides from these two foxes are really cheesy and unsubtle

Then again I can’t really think of a better way to write it so that’s fine I guess

[exotic bough]

he is being reunited with his grandparents dont ruin the moment

[dim plover]

I’m not one to assume people’s gender but subconsciously I thought Maripe was a girl

[slim belfry]

HELLO GRANDPARENTS OF MARIPE

[digital swan]

option to eat the foxes?

[slender copper]

Oh no we're going back to the Gerts and how the player convinced them 😭

[hasty beacon]

One gert could solo fruma

No matter how strong you think you are you will be consumed

[hybrid gazelle]

The queen when she accidentally let 2 gerts into fruma so now theu breed like rabbit and become a horde

[limber swan]

where is this

[slender copper]

^ there are news articles on stands you can interact with to get these.

[summer bluff]

Waiter waiter! More wynnswap universes please!

Bouta undertale this fanbase to hell

Make this household into a hellhole ❤️

[limber swan]

ye but idk where all of them are

I only found the one in hyloch

[summer bluff]

The one in timasca is behind the bank a bit

[regal spire]

Was Tasim’s skin an original, or was it just an imported skin?

If it’s an original, then I know exactly why it was used by other servers

[dim plover]

Voxy should be a required mod

(/j but still, wish this was just a vanilla feature)

[regal spire]

https://tenor.com/view/unreal-unreal-engine-computer-smoking-computer-smoking-gif-24575019

[rustic nexus]

ok but imagine a lari and orphion swap

👀

[vestal rivet]

the cube of de-immersionment sits just beyond the lower mountains, unfortunately

[regal spire]

I’ve got a mod in your_work that might be what you’re looking for

[slim belfry]

yeah using any long distance render mod

plus any shaders to your liking

[rustic nexus]

a light beast that is fighting tooth and nail to get the parasite off of itself but keeps failing
and a light scion that is like "oh things will get sorted out, don't worry, but I'd really love it if you did all my work for me and I'll claim all of what you did as my doing"

[zenith coral]

i tried to do it but wynncraft wouldnt load so my pc is ass ig

[slim belfry]

yeah apparently I can only use DH and not voxy

[dim plover]

Wait I just realized
Elise already has character portraits in the resource pack why aren't they in-game yet

[slim belfry]

SHHHHHHHH

[regal spire]

Oh, really?

[zenith coral]

nah orphion would be in dern being doomslayer till he dies

[regal spire]

…any other characters in there?

[slim belfry]

SHHHHH

[regal spire]

🤫

[rustic nexus]

yeah purple I don't think this is info that you should be sharing

[zenith coral]

if orphion could roam he would spend all his day killing dark beings

[limber swan]

they are slowly coming

[rustic nexus]

but yes there were more character portraits in the files iirc

that other people leaked

[limber swan]

there are even more?

[zenith coral]

i still think i contributed nice ideas to wynnswap (like laris ascended form being one step away from manifesting a new portal)

[slim belfry]

someone in story spoilers going "is this okay to show" and posting unreleased portraits 😭

[regal spire]

Is it okay if I do this?
nuclear meltdown occurs

[zenith coral]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cuZ7qbzsM4

[slender copper]

Found the place, of course Grinder's Gossip was paid by Majin 💀

[zenith coral]

majin paying people to write nice things about him seems in-character

i dont see statues of him made from meteorite so maybe his means arent as big as he wants

cuz he defeniteley wants meteorite statues of himself

[summer bluff]

The meteorites are white tho

[zenith coral]

(gold is a level 20 thing and therefore worthless)

[summer bluff]

He has white statues

[slender copper]

From the very start I was like "These reviews are 100% written by Majin" and low and behold, the inquisitive <character> made an observation.

[zenith coral]

thats the white meteorites, theres also purple and blue and other colours

[summer bluff]

And so, the undertalification of this Fandom shall start

[zenith coral]

idk why we havent seen a cognitohazard-coloured meteorite tho

[dim plover]

Wait what

[slim belfry]

not ingame

[zenith coral]

well aus are great imo, even if lots of it is trash, eventually given enough sewage you will be drowning in diamonds

[dim plover]

But it's been in there for weeks

Are we not allowed to mention it

[zenith coral]

spoiler it maybe?

[rustic nexus]

I remember a person getting verbally warned by a ct for posting unused portraits

some that have likely been in the resource pack for at least a month now

and haven't been used

[zenith coral]

i feel like lore-wise anathemas transformation should be analysed, cuz it seems like something was grabbing and dragging her through a portal, and that something had suspiciously light-realm colurs

like noone is commenting on that

[slim belfry]

she was forced back in because the physical world cannot handle her presence

[zenith coral]

yeah but the limbs that did it should be talked bout

this is huge

[slim belfry]

probably like strands

[zenith coral]

maybe

it feels like a huge detail everyone glosses over

also i feel like anathema wasnt big enough

[slim belfry]

she was growing back to her original size

[shut mist]

Bro shes 2 orphions

[zenith coral]

i wanted her to be mothra big

how big is that actually uuuuuuuuuh

[slim belfry]

her real body is like a balloon re-inflating out of the shell

[zenith coral]

yeah her real body in the bossfight i feel could be alot larger

[slim belfry]

oh

you meant the boss fight is small

idk seems large enough

[zenith coral]

well i think her being as big as a anni would be nice

will we ever get a full-body anni fight?

[limber swan]

well why hasn't the CT used them yet?

if they are done then why not add them

[hybrid gazelle]

The lost content,,,

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HHZWvB1aMAAnRVY.webp

[rustic nexus]

me when implementation

[zenith coral]

you think qira portraits will show the real body?

[hybrid gazelle]

Therr also a Alrdar and Tasim kissing sprite in the rp

But ct does not want you to know this,,,

[rustic nexus]

real and true

[zenith coral]

is a ct member coding exclusive yaoi content for staff members?

[slim belfry]

sorry they have better priorities

[zenith coral]

x

[slim belfry]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1302601977636585515/1483403133215572018/haul.gif

[zenith coral]

https://giphy.com/gifs/methamphetamine-metamfitamin-methamphitamine-jRDWLfQoxteLNlsUvY

i have silenced the opposition with strange images

[warm adder]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1131067615142490202.webp?size=48&animated=true&name=PigDrool&lossless=true

[vapid peak]

I'm mulling over what may be next with Anathema's death

As Anathema said, Orphion and Saphanis are going to be putting the pedal to the floor with their plans now that she is dead. Two showed us possible outcomes, and none of them look good. But if we're going to be killing gods... who's next? Orphion still thinks they can trust us as we did as they asked (kill Anathema) so the front door should be open to us... But Saphanis's power is snowballing and we have no way into their realm other than a very "scenic" backdoor entrance (that being Blueshift Archipelago where we killed TNA) that may take a long time for us to get from the edge of the Void to their lair.

So what do we do... Murk Orphion first to prevent him from nuking everything west of the Canyon of the Lost, or hope he doesn't cut us off after we've dealt with Saphanis?

[slender copper]

Speaking of, is there any portraits where there is more then one person in the frame?

[zenith coral]

well apparentley the macguffin can stabilize portals so we can just waltz into dern

[slim belfry]

yeah I think the next chapter is called "the Butterfly Effect" because a bunch of chain reaction events are gonna happen

[zenith coral]

i pray for a map update where light and dark influence rapidly spread

[vapid peak]

This is not fortnite smh

[zenith coral]

like with the realm of war clash kicking off with anathemas death gradual map updates seem like a appropiate thing

well obvs this is whats going to happen in-lore

[slim belfry]

LOL

[zenith coral]

id like to see it

[slim belfry]

if this were fortnite we'd have something like
omg zero point hypixel skyblock travel through the rift to meet steve from minecraft

[zenith coral]

like for all accoutns shit should hit the fan relly quick

[vapid peak]

It absolutely should

[zenith coral]

the light forest becomes orphions brand of eldritch and the elves get screwed by their religion

[vapid peak]

orphion just fucking sterilizes everything

[zenith coral]

light forest is a threat, elfilim can go as a sacrifice to show how bad things are, se breaks out of the mines we opened

corruption spikes appear all over wynn

hell make all fruma 'blessings' fail and go haywire now that the queen is gone

[slim belfry]

we did see what the alt future bad scenario is like anyway

interestingly notice that it's darkness that takes over wynn and not corruption

[zenith coral]

all those soldiers in full-body armor are revealed to be corrupted already (the blessings of anathema slowly transform you) and go rogue

[vapid peak]

I noticed that the Realm of War really seems to embody the worst traits of Light and Dark. Like the Light with anything that is not strictly itself, it's anti-life. And like the Dark, it twists familiar things into perverse, eldritch forms.

[slim belfry]

truly a hate child of the two

[vapid peak]

Indeed

Lacking the direction of its parents, but keeping the worst parts of both

[slim belfry]

maybe there's a lesson to be learned from this...

be good to your spouse or your child might become war incarnate

[zenith coral]

except there never was any romantic entanglement

more like nuclear waste

[slim belfry]

I just wanna go up to both and say

"you two are so childish and even at the level of most humans for having a ridiculous war over what? being similar?"

[zenith coral]

yeah at this point we have to do something more than sealing them away

teaching them morals seems to be a decent idea i think

so we seal them and then force them to get along

its a shitty plan but we dont have much better things

[slim belfry]

putting the two children that hate each other in the same room situation

[zenith coral]

with all their power confiscated

we cant just kill them obvs, that would just make a new one pop up and continue its reckless fighting

[slim belfry]

wait I got it

kill both and have the news ones like each other to finally make twilight real

[dim plover]

oh I can start 2 at the same time lol

[drifting aurora]

its an original

[slim belfry]

gosh so people just stumbled upon it somehow and went "this will do"

[dim plover]

Stealth

[slender copper]

You can actually go into the area!? That's so hilarious.

[dim plover]

I think you can also jump down to the Inquisitor in the Elise quest but I heard that you can softlock yourself in the underground section of the factory do I didn't dare to try it in case I can't get back up

[regal spire]

There was a time that Hypixel and Wynn were both popular in the MC skin community, since they had a consistent style, and actually had the skins available to the public. Tasim is the least obstructive, in terms of its design, whilst also being the cleanest, so I assume that’s why people were downloading it for their servers

[carmine cradle]

.

Ok, so I may be grasping at straws here, but it may be that the player takes the place of one of the beasts at the end of the story, explaining how they’d presumably be overpowered by this point, and that someone else would take the other, I’m throwing my guess in and saying we’d take light and quira takes dark

@zenith coral

[zenith coral]

becoming a beast seems like a nice idea, but it could very well twist our mind into eldritch being number 2 and kickstart the cycle again

[carmine cradle]

I think the player has seen enough and the point is that they’ve already seen all the good the war causes, and since their opposition would, in my theory, be someone they worked with, they would chose to no longer oppose eachother.

[mossy widget]

@hybrid gazelle

[carmine cradle]

But this is kinda groundless.

[carmine cradle]

?

[mossy widget]

i thiunk he would enjoy this theory

[carmine cradle]

K

[zenith coral]

no i mean that being a realm beast would inherentley twist our mind

it may seem like a good idea but we have a mortal mind, who knows what would happen if we live for... however long.

[carmine cradle]

I get that, but I don’t think, assuming this happens, that theyd go this way

[zenith coral]

also the beasts are embodiments of their realm, maybe it would forcefully shift our minds into becoming orphion 2.0

[slender copper]

Time to add the "the Player replaces one of the beasts" theory, a new one.

[zenith coral]

unironically could be a bad ending

[hybrid gazelle]

Meefy what the actual fuck did you tag me to 😭

[zenith coral]

a conversation about how becoming a realm beast is probably a bad idea

[slender copper]

Yeah, have no idea how Wynncraft is going to allow the player to still... do stuff if we become a beast lmao.

[mossy widget]

LOL

[hybrid gazelle]

It

It a theory

It certainly a theory

[carmine cradle]

Same way we can replay dungeons.

🤷‍♂️

[zenith coral]

like do realm beasts have free will? with them being embodiments of a realm the answer could very well end up as a no

or atleast they are being inherentley influenced themselves

also ursurping a realm beast seat as something not made for that could break us

[dense python]

their free will is conditioned by their primal drive to spread their influence

[carmine cradle]

This is blabbering based on a comment from quira, the fact that us killing or sealing the realms of influence are unlikely, and the fact that presumably we’re gonna be really strong by the end of the game, like nobody can stop us, so that’s why.

[zenith coral]

yikes

[regal spire]

Resonance weaver seems to be the “deus ex machina” rn

[slender copper]

Guess we become like Her Majesty and make ourselves a shard of the beast we're replacing? Still makes no sense since we're just human, and we have no evidence that we can even replace them.

[carmine cradle]

You have free will but also you must eat apple

[regal spire]

I’m excited for when it gets developed enough to not be that

But, if we became a beast, who’s to say we don’t get the weaver to make us a shell

There you go: we can still play

[zenith coral]

canonically apparentley it can open the portal to dern so we have our answer for that

[zenith coral]

if we become a beats would we still be 'us'? this is fairly important lol

[carmine cradle]

Hmm… well, if they go that route it’ll be cool, but I’m just yapping

[regal spire]

Probably

Anathema seemed fine

Why wouldn’t we

[zenith coral]

anathema was a beast

[dense python]

anathema was a beast to begin with though

[regal spire]

Yeah, and what if we are, too

[zenith coral]

a being inherentley made as an reflection

[carmine cradle]

We are already not us, our soul and us are seperate i think, if (the point of no return.)

[dense python]

🤯

well we do know that we are something special

[zenith coral]

us forcefully usurping that could go a number of ways

[dense python]

so thats better than nothing

[regal spire]

I mean, do we even have a personality? We speak with perspectives that aren’t ours, with words that aren’t real, and are merely a vessel for power and fantasy

[zenith coral]

actually with us having a void in us this could work if we fill it one the realms

[regal spire]

wtf kind of “personality” do we really have

[dense python]

its a self insert

[zenith coral]

in what way?

[regal spire]

If we became a beast, nothing would change, because we’re still in control

[dense python]

with not enough dialogue options to self insert 🔥

[zenith coral]

who knows :/

[slender copper]

No, we are the body, that's us, just our soul shows itself to be separate. (thus with the theory at the end of Apotheosis that we are our present selves while our soul is our past self from the two focuses.)

[carmine cradle]

I think it’s a Undertale thing where our soul and body are seperate, but it’s the other way around where we are the body and the soul is different.
I think this is because of ||The point of no return|| where we speak to our soul and it directly disagrees with our aactions.

[zenith coral]

but yeah us filling the void in us could be important later

[slim belfry]

I take the options more like a direction of the personality rather than "this is what they would exactly say"

[carmine cradle]

Yes I’m agreeing with you

[zenith coral]

thats just the new vegas scene where you convince your estranged brain to come with you again

[carmine cradle]

It’s very interesting. But the amount of theories that can be made just shows all the potential.

I’m very optimistic for what Wynn does with its story

[regal spire]

I think point of no return is less us communicating with our in game spirit, and more of the obelisks interpretation of how our spirit would depict itself in its presence.

[zenith coral]

https://giphy.com/gifs/meme-jujutsu-kaisen-slander-4sDeipnr7PbZFQktaA

[carmine cradle]

Alright, good yap, gotta play me some tes IV

[zenith coral]

i hope it gets really dark, dont make it a disney ending where noone dies, were about to go war with cosmic influences and se alone killed 3/4 of the team.

[zenith coral]

play owlcoda

[slim belfry]

there's definitely something strange going on with the soul stuff

[zenith coral]

the ct apparentley has decided they wont elaborate on the lore

[slim belfry]

yes because it's pretty big

[zenith coral]

no i mean that it wont become a plot point

which i think is kinda crazy

[slim belfry]

ehhhh

I can't see it becoming a plot point

[slender copper]

Interesting... but wouldn't the obelisk want the soul to stay if the obelisk was responsible for the form that our spirit took? I said it myself that the choice was the body's.

[slim belfry]

the plot is more about what we actually do rather than inside the player

[zenith coral]

yeah but it feels fairly important and if thats never elaborated upon it feels like it could have been skipped

[regal spire]

It would, but I think it’s because we haven’t given control to it, and it couldn’t do more than project a concept

[slim belfry]

we got very substantial player lore in fruma but it was never a plot point

this stuff is likely gonna remain background noise for us to see get clearer over time

[zenith coral]

then i worded it incorrectly, i meant my understanding of the cts intention is that they are never gonna reveal it

and leave it up to interpretation

[slim belfry]

that we don't know

[slender copper]

I can see that, yeah. Man I wish there was more player lore to work with lmao

[zenith coral]

if i understood it right theyre never gonna resolve that lore

[slim belfry]

they said they know what the player is but can't say it

[zenith coral]

i dont player is aware of this stuff at all

then i misheard it, it felt like a baffling decision for me

[slender copper]

o_o they aren't?? It's just gonna be up to interpretation again 😭

[zenith coral]

yup thats what i understood from them. theyre just never gonna resolve it and let you make your own headcanon

which i think is insane

[slender copper]

Ah, future update stuff.

[zenith coral]

yeah i dunno. maybe i am misunderstanding their intentions

[brittle prism]

cts just said fruma wastelands was CANCELLED btw

[zenith coral]

ho wow

[slender copper]

🤯

[zenith coral]

https://giphy.com/gifs/jjk-jujutsu-kaisen-nanami-gYyAnYhxT1xqRxFD7W

[slim belfry]

I'm still gonna go by my own thoughts on this

[slender copper]

I agree with this, they even said it themselves in the dialog.

[slim belfry]

set foundation base, any kind of building made on top of it

[dim plover]

Syndra should have swapped roles with us instead for the Timasca plan tbh

Like, we beat her in duel so we're more capable of facing the Queen

[zenith coral]

i will throw out my old theory that we are the kyurem to saphanis and orphion (the thrown away shell), what do you guys think?

[zenith coral]

like she said at that point she didnt have much to live for so she came off as lowk suicidal

[slim belfry]

well that's something

[zenith coral]

and us having a void is interesting and probably something that will be important. maybe we fill it in?

[slender copper]

The only reason that Anathema was able to create her shell was because Ba'kal created the weaver right? And it was with her, but it's a theory alright.

[zenith coral]

well not neccessarily a shell but a 'thrown away leftover with a void in you' seems like something possible

like it said there was once something there but its gone now

like this seems like a major point

[dim plover]

This is mildly comical

[slim belfry]

L queen

[zenith coral]

maybe thats why were so stronk, we can just continue to fill our 'void' up with stuff and become stronger while others have things like talents and affinities.

kinda like yuji from jjk where he ||is stronger than others despite not having a ct and can gain a ct which should be impossible||

[slim belfry]

while others have things like talents and affinities.

but I wanna have talents and affinities...

[slender copper]

we can just continue to fill our 'void' up with stuff
May I ask what is the stuff you are referring to?

[zenith coral]

experience ig

sorta like we are a 'blank slate' and therefore we can write whatever we want upon it unlike normal people who have affinites and talents for specific things

[slender copper]

isn't that a gameplay thing and not lore?

[zenith coral]

who knows i am wildly speculative rn, but all the talk about 'blank slates' in fruma raises questions eh?

so this is my interpretation of it

[slender copper]

That's what we're all theorizing yeah.

[zenith coral]

the prison will presumably answer our questions about this stuff

[dim plover]

This guy says North-West but the zipline is like right behind him South-West

[zenith coral]

wynn directions are just different

[signal bough]

so does anyone else see the half life 2 of the industrial district

[vestal rivet]

this confused me too at first lol

[zenith coral]

https://giphy.com/gifs/half-life-hopium-3-ZW7gBQHqkuxhzEQwZm

[signal bough]

the airboat is 100% hl2

if only the quest was better

[zenith coral]

salted will make a deal with valve to add hl3 into wynncraft trust

[signal bough]

I was so happy when I realized it was bugged so much I could just swim to the exit

[signal bough]

wastelands is gonna be hl2 beta's depot

[unique pumice]

The other northwest

[signal bough]

okay Quill is black and has a prosthetic leg, just like Eli Vance

[frozen turtle]

aldwell citzens walk backwards, so when they go north-west they're walking backwards so its south-west

[regal spire]

I’m trying to think of a made up excuse as to why it’s justified like this, and the best I got is:

-They’re a changeling and don’t understand directions quite yet, and are saying Northwest is the direction somebody would leave the house to get across on the zip line.

[zenith coral]

given that wynncraft is a fantasy setting we shouldnt take normal concepts from our world as granted. for example maybe the reason light and dark dont qualify as elements is because the definition of 'element' is just different here, and an element is something from the physical plane, which light and dark arent.

[summer bluff]

90% sure it's bc they didn't change the dialog from beta when they changed some buildings around

[winged narwhal]

We know that Wynncraft operates on atomic theory at the very least

[zenith coral]

wdym

[regal spire]

Soosu

[winged narwhal]

soosu's house has some physics shit in it

[zenith coral]

ah

[regal spire]

Wynn operates on imagination theory

[zenith coral]

well maybe atoms have some wacky in-universe lore

[regal spire]

Where everything can work, if you believe it can

[warm adder]

What do we think is the best fruma music

[zenith coral]

debatable ig cuz i always gravitate to boss themes or intimidating themes

[warm adder]

i just wanted to hear opinions

[winged narwhal]

At the very least from Soosu we can intuit it's not a Platonic-style "elements as base form of matter" thing

[full jackal]

budding daydreams

[slim belfry]

electricity in wynncraft is implied to be the same as our electricity because both electromagic and electricity simultaneously exist

[full jackal]

silence halcyon and whisper are the best area themes

[slim belfry]

halcyon like the weapon

[full jackal]

No i mean like the Xima valley theme

[zenith coral]

i think the music from when we bury elise is the best on virtue of so many people having strong feelings about it

therefore it is objectiveley the best one

[full jackal]

exactly

I can’t wait for budding daydreams to be on their youtube channel

[slim belfry]

yeah ik im messing around

[full jackal]

wait you mean halcyon as in Xtale!Toriel’s theme

[slim belfry]

???????????

[zenith coral]

maybe im just traumatized from things like nasuverse where theres things like vampires who are objectiveley not vampires but literal aliens from the moon

[full jackal]

okay but like srsly tho Halcyon wynncraft had no right to go as hard as it did for some small area

[zenith coral]

we should have more acid-trip lore imo

[slim belfry]

I meant https://wynncraft.com/item/Halcyon

[zenith coral]

ive seen everyone talk about this weapon so ill assume its hot shit rn and will get nerfed in the next patch

[signal bough]

ugly reflection and what will be done are some of the best

[full jackal]

https://youtu.be/LOiy1ZcElG0?si=0a8WTnetcm92mhWs

okay but like its really tough competition tho

tex and corpe really outdid themselves

[signal bough]

oh timasca's is good

[slim belfry]

I personally like underground roughworks that I even put it for my housing island

[signal bough]

share plz

[full jackal]

in terms of boss themes self-indulgence is the best probably

[signal bough]

its clear that what will be done was designed as THE banger

[full jackal]

what will be done is like a close second

but like the opening of self indulgence with the moonlight sonata motif was so good though

[slim belfry]

huh

[light zealot]

I love Timasca's theme (Day In, Day Out)

The central low brass melody is so great

[slim belfry]

gosh yeah I love when that hits

[full jackal]

but like the boss themes are so hard to decide though

[dry drift]

hellllooo

[signal bough]

I don't remember zhiraok's being exceptional but that could have been the bugs

[dry drift]

timasca theme hits

i think it’s my favorite of the new ones

wtp is good too

[slim belfry]

BWOOM duh duh duh duh duh duh-duh-duh
BWOOM duh duh duh duh duh duh-duh-duh

[signal bough]

oh yeah that's bwoom duh duh duh duh duh-duh-duh

[warm adder]

I like the fort toraan one

[slim belfry]

epic fruma

it's good yeah I like thinking about it along with the other epic themes

[full jackal]

I mean like i really love day in day out but i think restless is actually so underrated

[signal bough]

and we're forgetting Soostep

[slim belfry]

was a pleasant surprise to see what inspired restless

peak inspires peak

[full jackal]

i should probably get to playinh oneshot one day

its one of the only popular indie games i haven’t played yet

also maybe im hallucinating but restless and day in day out sound like they have sumilar melpdies

[slim belfry]

they sound related but I can't see similar

restless definitely shares with underworks though

[full jackal]

underworks?

u mean like solksong

[slim belfry]

wait no

I mean underground roughworks

[full jackal]

oh ok

[slim belfry]

I shortened the name lol

[full jackal]

u mean like in ttp

[slim belfry]

yes

[full jackal]

ok

[signal bough]

you mean stationed below?

[slim belfry]

yes stationed below

I forgot the name

[light zealot]

I also really like Duty (Zhiraok's theme) and its 7/8 time which weirds out the music side of my brain but totally fits his character

I love all of the musical storytelling that Fruma does

It's one of my favourite things about game OSTs

[slim belfry]

7/8 is fun I've only seen it a few times before

I usually count it as 1 2 3 1 2 3 4

[light zealot]

Also, the acoustic guitar in This is for You (Yuman's song from the end of Solidarity of Steel) is really good

[regal spire]

https://tenor.com/view/gene-kelly-anchors-aweigh-jerry-tom-and-jerry-dance-gif-17194769

[light zealot]

And I really like Vigour Burns Bright (Syndra's battle theme)

It really fits her character and manages to be suitably intense while also protective

Really cool sound to it

[dim plover]

I just realized that this nameplate's on the right side of the dialogue box

One day I want to build tech for my own dialogue system so that there can be two characters talking (one portrait on the left and one on the right) at the same time

For that I'll have to make tech for double portraits and nameplates, for one

Which isn't comparatively that bad

But then I also need to make a way for me to skip lines on the box and from what I know of my own code that feels annoying

Oh my god the options are also off to that side

I'm going to have to do so much

[young dock]

NO WAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY

Gene Kelly and Jerry mouse mentioned wtfffffffff

[dim plover]

eat hair

[neat oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-pramanix-fox-lady-smile-cute-gif-16873896

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1358164874873540781/1478923890440016023/Sui_Nom_NOM_nom.gif

[dim plover]

Are we not supposed to be able to open this gate between Mistwoods and Highlands

How do you open this

Why is there already soup here lol

I really want to see more of these small models I really like those

I think the culprit in Off The Rails is ||part of the Highlands secret group|| or smth so it would've been cool if one of the seats here was actually empty when we arrested them

[regal spire]

Mmmm yummy hair

[regal spire]

Also, I think it’s implied they remove the chairs of people who defect/they remove. Once Bleeding Rose said he was gonna go do a terrorism, they wiped any trace of them connected to the group

[regal spire]

Gene Kelly made me very happy

[dim plover]

I've been running around the Estalis House for like 20 minutes trying to find the third statue

Where the hell is it

[frozen turtle]

wait there is a locked gate between the two places??

i swear there was basically just no gate or wall or anything between the two or smth

[dim plover]

Is there a list or document somewhere regarding the special names you can use in The Strong Survive

[sick quest]

I hope not because i used the irl name of my close wynncraft buddy

Also just tossing out a possibly stupid idea but what if there was a secret discovery that required putting together all the secret discoveries in a province

Like for wynn youd need the wynn plains, nesaak, and almuj ultimate discoveries

[dim plover]

What

What does this have to do with the special names

[sick quest]

When you can make ul a name in strong survive

Wdym special names

[dim plover]

^

[sick quest]

I just thought u were talking abt putting in names other than our usernames

[dim plover]

The names that do things when you put them in

[sick quest]

Yeah the ones they list in the dialogue

I think having some big lore cutscene/boss altar that requires multple ultimate secret discoveries would be cool asf

Like getting abs rad in HK w the delicate flower

Maybe an AHC-based Lari boss altar for completion of all ultimate secret discoveries

Orrrrr have Corrupted!EO locked behind a big completion ceiling

[uneven basin]

In case there's one in the attick where there's a bunch of other statues I always miss

[sick quest]

Since Corrupted!EO would probably be past Apotheosis in levelling

[uneven basin]

Other two are up the tower and on a thingy above the window in the room where there are statues and pedestals

[frozen turtle]

I'm pretty sure there are these diaries/notes you need as well as a name (Nilrem i might be making that up but ik there is a name) but you also need the notes to open

if ur talking about that door

[neat oriole]

merlin

[frozen turtle]

oh wait yeah thats bobs friend prolly not nilrem

[hybrid gazelle]

pretty sure puitting cursed trigger hard mode

that what I heard at least

[dim plover]

Which door

[frozen turtle]

um are there multiple doors which ask for a name/code

there is a door at the top of these staircases

[dim plover]

Oh

[frozen turtle]

like i want to try if different names do different things

but idk how wou'd do that for the start

[mossy badge]

Multiple.. ?

[neat oriole]

idk i just said nilrem backwards

[dim plover]

The wiki page for The Strong Survive isn't really documented enough
Does anyone have some document with all the secrets and stuff

[full jackal]

Wait Nilrem is literally Merlin backwards

I should’ve noticed that sooner really

Honestly Bob is such a cool figure and I kinda wish they expanded on his lore a bit more

Cuz like his letter to Nilrem at the end was like actually really ominous

It really feels like a hero who has realized that he is about to face a threat greater than anyone

Can ever imagine and that he actually might not make it back

Like the rest of his story is kinda bland and generic Ngl but the end was actually crazy

Also really all the Wynn secret discoveries should probably get reworks

[limber swan]

no no not Nlrem, Niren

the name you put is Niren

[mossy badge]

I also confused it lol

[frozen turtle]

Niren is just Nilrem without the l, and m = n

[full jackal]

Also Honestly Akias is actually a really cool situation where they repurposed an old removed aspect of the game and made it into a different thing. If they ever rework BakDestr SDs I think they could really dive into the lore of Akias more cuz we know that it was founded by Frumans but that’s really it

Like a big reason why I adore the Fruma secret discoveries

Is because of how much content each one has

Like the Great Sap Siphon has an entire puzzle and multiple journal entries that serve as roughworks lore but also a bit for characterising Soosu

And washed away not only talks about the Auburn Flood that began the new age but also of the old resistance and shows us their old hideouts

Like that is just cool as heck

Also a Croaking Cryptid has new dialogue that gives us more context for the rest of the game and also more Auburn people to talk to

Honestly yea Fruma SDs are harder to do but they give so much more personality for the area and are so much more fun to do

Like I think a good example is actually Crate Crane SD in Nemcract

It really exposes some of the bad underbelly of Nemcract (though honestly I don’t know why they even stay there) as well as some of the prejudice Villagers have against humans

Though tbh the Villager racism to humans is kinda a shallow portrayal

Like they don’t like them… cuz apparently we’re violent?

Like mf have you seen what y’all did with the Gerts

How the fuck are we violent when you do the most horrific shit in the Dark Forests

And well honestly I think this is a problem with a lot of media nowadays but I think wynncraft could show that racism isn’t always explicit, it can be a sorta subconscious bias as well

Like racism isn’t just some guy screaming about how much they hate [[fantasy race]] or whatever

But I think that honestly Fruma’s portrayal of classism and commentary on liberals with BlosOBla

Was honestly really well put together

Again this is yet another case where everything post-1.20 outclasses the entire rest of the game

Okay but like actually you can’t tell me this line doesn’t go hard

The clandestine Fort Hegea was built over the remnants of an ancient gathering spot for the clans. Its construction was ordered as punishment - of the clans over the fervor of many, of the changelings over the error of one

Like damn

[full jackal]

Okay I don’t know if y’all have read this cuz I ended up missing this in the epilogue

But

There's a letter placed into the pot. Read it?
Yes.
I'm sorry I couldn't make it there in time. I'm sorry I never got to say goodbye.
These past few days, I've been spinning scenarios in my head, desperately trying to think of a way I could have saved you... but I haven't been able to.
Maybe there was nothing I could have done. Maybe it was always going to be this way.
In another life, another world, could we have gotten a happy ending?
I'd like to think so.
But we only get one chance, and this is the one I'm left with.
I'll try to keep on living. For you.
I'll never forget you, or the time we had together.
I hope it meant as much to you as it did to me.
Rest well, friend. You've earned it.
...
It seems there's more text on the other side. Read it?
Yes.
Tasim, I hope this letter reaches you well.
It's been a bit, hasn't it! I hope you've been doing well in Gavel.
You've had lots of exciting adventures there while I've been gone, I'm sure! I can't wait to hear about all of them.
But, ah, on the topic of adventure — I'm writing to you BECAUSE of one. Or, well, something along those lines.
I'm planning a scouting mission into... a dangerous place.
We've only recently discovered it exists, and Aegis wants a better read on it... it's so secret I'm not allowed to send any details by letter!
I'd like you to come and join me.
I have Elphie helping me with research, and we also have Lucio — I told you about Lucio, right? — so, it won't be anyone entirely unfamiliar.
We're looking for a fourth, and... well, you know there's no one I'd rather have by my side than you, right?
It shouldn't be anything we can't handle, but... I'd appreciate your help nonetheless.
And either way, it's been a long while since you've been to Wynn, hasn't it?
So you should come back and visit! A change of scenery would do you some good, I think.
See you soon!
— Aledar
...
The dialogue ends here

Oh my god noooooo T_T

Fucking devastating oml

[full jackal]

Who the fuck did the confetti emoji

You’re evil

STOP DOING THE FUCKING CONFETTI EMOJIS YOU FUCKING DEVILS

[raw badge]

I guess part of this may also come to how the villagers have a settlement in Wynn, but the humans aren't allowed such in Gavel (I guess it would make sense as the humans have a sort of pact or something), but I guess they should also blame the elves because of what Aldorei's elders did to cause the events from 0 AP (and why its AP)

[raw badge]

I also agree, especially since the resistance group were likely pacifists, much like how Lari is, or was

But yes I think Wynn's SDs should have a rework as there might be some retcons afaik

[slim belfry]

who let anni onto discord

[full jackal]

This took way too long to make what

Like how hard is it to redact text and add new text over it why is the markup photos app layers so fucked up

[split night]

i love my ability to draw

[full jackal]

Wait why is this so cool actually

<<ANGRY GUY [Lv.42069] >>
ELEDEF: ALL || ELEDAM: ALL

He angy fr trust

[hybrid gazelle]

working on factions for wynn province in Wartorn Project

[split night]

the WynnSwap battle mechanic is gonna be a little bit more complicated than Deltarune trust me

i just don't know how to programm one yet

[frozen turtle]

honestly good Tasim never got it,
(i really hope Aledar didnt know about the sacrifice part before inviting Tasim)

[split night]

do we have some kind of palace

[hybrid gazelle]

nope

maybe later

[split night]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/753709254803980296/1493124684529795112/0001-0036-ezgif.com-optimize1.gif

[hybrid gazelle]

Rename some of them

Corruption will have its own name now

which is Hellblight

but IDK

[full jackal]

It was rewritten so he didn’t

[hybrid gazelle]

it working in progress rn, just have average people calling corruption The corruption kinda weird

[frozen turtle]

its Wartorn Palace but no palace 💔

[hybrid gazelle]

it does not sound like a name people would use on something like this LOL

[proud ginkgo]

i wonder how the caravan driver felt when he caused one of the most terrible massacres in fruma

[frozen turtle]

Caravan driver is sus lowkey

[full jackal]

Caravan Driver’s behaviour is honestly…

Kinda expected

Like he says “He hits the same rock every time”

[split night]

like the soldier who spared hitler

[full jackal]

That’s sus asf

[frozen turtle]

ohh right yeah (i lowkey just forgot to read the first part)

[full jackal]

Are we a metaphor for hitler?

[proud ginkgo]

well erm, we arent hitler 🤓

[hybrid gazelle]

Wynnic CUltists is faction exclusive to wartorn proejfct

but like

[split night]

No

[full jackal]

In that case who is Göbbels

[frozen turtle]

I just remember Zhiraok wanted to question the Caravan driver which leads me to believe that him letting us through is abnormal

[hybrid gazelle]

THEY KINDA CANON to the main universe

[full jackal]

And who is Himmler

[split night]

I'm literally using a comparation not metaphor

[hybrid gazelle]

it just that they alluded in Annihilation's disciple

but like they not really in game

[proud ginkgo]

are we metaphor for humans

[hybrid gazelle]

Wynn really should ahve cultists as part of its story but like