📚lore_discussion

[frozen turtle]

its hard not to when Sui is also kinda implying he's right (kinda, i just think sui doesnt explain it as something different)

ik its not canon

[hybrid gazelle]

not at all

[untold warren]

Weaving silk or weaving cloth?

[split night]

It's better honestly
5 Element being the physical realm exclusive thing
while Dark, Light and War are alien threads that seep it ways into the world

Also dark isn't an element

[hybrid gazelle]

she specifically said that whatever she sense is somethign different

entirely

[split night]

pull up the wiki before proceeding on this part btw

[frozen turtle]

yeah but she's saying its also a strand

[rustic nexus]

I wish we could hear sui talk about the war strand after the queen's form breaks

[frozen turtle]

i did

[hybrid gazelle]

Soosu even talk about this

[frozen turtle]

Sui: I could recognize five of them. I- I usually pull on blue and sometimes white, for my- my magic, but- but- but anyway, there was a sixth I could feel but couldn't see, and-

also weird its only 6

btw

[rustic nexus]

yeah cuz light and dark are far away

[hybrid gazelle]

did not that dialogue got rewrite

wait

[frozen turtle]

idk im on wiki.gg

[untold warren]

Man

[rustic nexus]

dawg

[untold warren]

Strong breeze today

[drifting aurora]

stupid outdated wiki dot dot dot

[frozen turtle]

ah

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah I knew it LOL

[frozen turtle]

so it changed okay

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah it changed in live

[frozen turtle]

when was that

[hybrid gazelle]

so wiki likely took beta one

[drifting aurora]

it got edited during beta

[hybrid gazelle]

oh

fuckkkk

[drifting aurora]

like a patch after the quest launched

[hybrid gazelle]

man so this wiki is EXTRA outdated

[rustic nexus]

so it's basically the same as I'd recall it

[untold warren]

That explains why theres a lot of dialogue changes

[split night]

😭

[frozen turtle]

i still remember it as also being a strand

[split night]

we can't even trust the wiki now huh

[frozen turtle]

but also i dont wanna go look into the quest

[drifting aurora]

Sui: I could recognize five of them. I- I usually pull on blue and sometimes white, for my- my magic, but- but- but anyway, I can see them, red-blue-green-white-yellow, but-
Sui: But it's not just them, there- there was always something else, s-something different, something I could feel but couldn't see, and- a-and-
Sui: ...and it's that. Right there. That's the s-something, and- and you're saying it's... the Queen?

[hybrid gazelle]

probably sometime until the wiki update

[frozen turtle]

okay good

[hybrid gazelle]

something I wondering for a while

I never really quite get this part

so basically is the queen even inside her shell, still radidate corruption like demon core?

or what

[frozen turtle]

i kinda get it now

[rustic nexus]

I personally think so

[hybrid gazelle]

like do Corruption capable of being presence

[untold warren]

anyways, what were people even doing before the portal opened up?

[hybrid gazelle]

without fucking thing up

living

[frozen turtle]

is the line before this "Rex: sui calm down talking too fast?"

[hybrid gazelle]

just chilling and living most of the itme

[drifting aurora]

yea

[untold warren]

Like is there any recorded sieges before the portal opened up?

Any wars??

[hybrid gazelle]

we dont know

[rustic nexus]

well

[hybrid gazelle]

it been 1000 years

[rustic nexus]

the gavel one

[hybrid gazelle]

Gavel has like war of the cousins

going on

[rustic nexus]

yea

[hybrid gazelle]

and orc war

but other than we dont know

there also human vs olm war theory going on

but it still a theory

[untold warren]

So gavel is just genuinely a racist region

[hybrid gazelle]

Wynn is low fantasy so there is like

there lioterally nothing to be racist to

[untold warren]

The villagers.

[hybrid gazelle]

most of the colonies are under Fruma

so there barely reason to fight

I am talking about wynn province

[rustic nexus]

isolated in gavel

with the other species there

[untold warren]

Theres also villagers in Wynn

[hybrid gazelle]

no?

[untold warren]

Ragni King?

That big ass nose

[drifting aurora]

for 100 years sure

[hybrid gazelle]

he adopted

[rustic nexus]

there was humans and there was the olm

[hybrid gazelle]

he literally said to be adopted

[rustic nexus]

festival dialogues!!!

[untold warren]

Jeez, can't even be racist in Gavel anymore

[drifting aurora]

thats actually from wynnex

[rustic nexus]

oh what

[limber swan]

it's a pretty long region though

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah it from Wynnex

of all palce

[untold warren]

lexnt

[hybrid gazelle]

but yeah Ragni king is adopted and like

[untold warren]

Whats the national dish of Fruma?

[hybrid gazelle]

what even implication here lol

[drifting aurora]

idk

[hybrid gazelle]

do you think Ragni king live for like

[untold warren]

buh

[hybrid gazelle]

100+ years?

[untold warren]

no

[rustic nexus]

idk about national but there's likely regional

[limber swan]

we might get more player lore

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah Fruma is too vary and diverse to have one singular dish that represent fruma

[rustic nexus]

oh yeah most likely, but that would be in the prison quest imo

[frozen turtle]

prison quest + hopefully changelings/tarpit/sosho/project hollowground quest

[rustic nexus]

hallowground

[untold warren]

Imagine we get imprisoned in the Wastelands again and some random dude named David Johnson bombs us with player lore we didn't know about

[drifting aurora]

the ground do be hallowed

[limber swan]

I wonder if the story changes if you already did ensemble of hope

[untold warren]

Like we could find out that the player is allergic to Milk, we might never know

[limber swan]

since the prison break happens anyways

[untold warren]

just random ass lore drops

[rustic nexus]

I'd imagine normally ensemble would have the req of the prison quest after wastelands

[hybrid gazelle]

Lexnt would Dern be release chapter by chapter like poppy playtime

Think about it

[limber swan]

btw what number is Oru

[hybrid gazelle]

Dern update being mascot horror

[frozen turtle]

A strand. Brittle, fraying, but... it is there. Colourless, transparent... but it. Is. There.

• (when player tries to reach down)
  i think its interesting that like War is also shown as invisible but its still felt. Probably not the same thing but interesting

[limber swan]

cause Majin is 3

[rustic nexus]

sovereign numbering is just for the promotional stuff for fruma

[frozen turtle]

Majin is 3?

[untold warren]

Will some fruma cast join us in our adventure or nah?

[hybrid gazelle]

Saphanis if it was a mascot horror character

Darky Beastie

[rustic nexus]

the only numbers that matter are 1 and 2

[mossy widget]

oru is like 10x older than majin lolol

he is unc

[hybrid gazelle]

Oru is

certianly osmeone

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HHZWvB1aMAAnRVY.webp

[mossy widget]

someone you say?

@rustic nexus are you oru

[rustic nexus]

saphanis vs the prototype

[limber swan]

yeah but what are they gonna market him as

[frozen turtle]

Oru secretely is that guy in the gravity tower in Sky islands and its why he has a strict bed time cuz he has a schuedle of when he switches between

[limber swan]

the first?

[rustic nexus]

no wtf

[limber swan]

Bak'al is the first

[mossy widget]

why not

[hybrid gazelle]

Someone did not have slave camp

[mossy widget]

give us wasteland

[hybrid gazelle]

so I comfirm she is not Oru

[untold warren]

I got no fucking idea who Oru is gng

[hybrid gazelle]

The Warden

[untold warren]

oh

[rustic nexus]

sovereign of the wastelands

[hybrid gazelle]

he is the soverign that rule over the Deraj Prison

[untold warren]

The warden is an old hag???

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah

he is old guy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1015394899497058304/1500357685877542993/Smol_Ana.gif

[untold warren]

damn

[rustic nexus]

ngl I always picture oru as that conquest fella from invincible

[mossy widget]

U would kno

[untold warren]

Where do yall find this 😭

[rustic nexus]

he drew it

[hybrid gazelle]

no

[untold warren]

Oh sick

[hybrid gazelle]

that was Tex

[mossy widget]

texilated drew it

[rustic nexus]

oh

[hybrid gazelle]

it's my brithday present

[rustic nexus]

nvm

[hybrid gazelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1015394899497058304/1500357685877542993/Smol_Ana.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1015394899497058304/1500357601597067325/Smol_Ana.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1015394899497058304/1500357511411400816/Smol_Ana.gif

[untold warren]

Oh sick

[hybrid gazelle]

she so big headed

smashing her with a bat

still waiting for raid ost

[untold warren]

I mean if you swing that way, shieet

I don't judge on violence

[limber swan]

"stand ready for my pull worm"

he will pull you into the prison

[dim plover]

I might try my hand at making a model of this character if the general body stucture's the same to the Queen

[hybrid gazelle]

tbh I just expected her to use player model

[rustic nexus]

I wonder what the artwork for butterfly effect will be...

[hybrid gazelle]

she meant to be antithesis to the queen

[drifting aurora]

we probably just arent gonna do numbering

[frozen turtle]

"All the other sovereigns are scared of me.."

[hybrid gazelle]

Except Two

she can keep her number

cause she special liek that

[untold warren]

why is she even called Two?

[dim plover]

We can take them

[hybrid gazelle]

she is second scion

after Bak'al

[frozen turtle]

cuz she's two

[hybrid gazelle]

so she is Two

[untold warren]

why not a great number like "49"

[hybrid gazelle]

She is Two Fruma

[split night]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-explosion-explodes-cat-explodes-gif-10131775219258044191

[limber swan]

dont tell trashie im talking in this chat

[frozen turtle]

She is Two-wards a better Fruma

[hybrid gazelle]

becuase 49 is not number 2

[drifting aurora]

she's the second

[limber swan]

they have me blocked

[untold warren]

She is To Fruma

[split night]

we're not having this discussion emerald

[hybrid gazelle]

I fucking hate how you name a character after number

so I now I have fucking brainrot when someone say number 2

[drifting aurora]

cope

[frozen turtle]

Two is a placeholder name, her real name is Qira..

100%

[limber swan]

does two have an actual name?

[hybrid gazelle]

WTF you mean by cope I literally have to restriant myself from yelling Two in VC 😭

[rustic nexus]

I like the idea that she has abandoned her previous name

[drifting aurora]

cope

[hybrid gazelle]

Why would Lexnt do this

[frozen turtle]

Two's name is cope?

Sovereign Cope

[rustic nexus]

no way

[hybrid gazelle]

Me gripping my chair everytime when someone saying number after 1

[untold warren]

Bak'al lowkey needs a texture or model change

[split night]

Is this some kind of circus... in a digital world?

[dim plover]

Didn't he already get that

[drifting aurora]

he doesnt need a texture change

[rustic nexus]

he was

he already got a skin change

[untold warren]

Must've skipped that part

[drifting aurora]

his skin got updated in like... i want to say 2022? or 2023?

[hybrid gazelle]

Bak'al just have aura like that

[frozen turtle]

i want bak'al to be taller then majin

[hybrid gazelle]

he probably getting animated player model

[frozen turtle]

he should be 5 blocks tall

[rustic nexus]

23 or 24 I feel like

[hybrid gazelle]

YOU CANT GET ANY TALLER THAN MAJIN

[frozen turtle]

3 blocks wide

[hybrid gazelle]

that like

uncanny at that point

you are making fucking sky scrapper

[untold warren]

Majin is 5 pixels shorter than the Queen btw

[limber swan]

oru could be 1000 feet tall for all we know

[hybrid gazelle]

Bak'al raid boss geniunely would be possible if you make him fucking taller than Majin

[drifting aurora]

it was whichever blizzard fest tasim showed up in

[frozen turtle]

why does the Blessing make women short and men taller, like thats a weird effect

[drifting aurora]

so actually 23

it wouldve been 23

[hybrid gazelle]

what you mean Fruma queen is like

taller than any character in wynncraft

[untold warren]

I feel like Bak'al or Dern will be the first boss to have a billion hp or smthing

[hybrid gazelle]

Soosu just short

[frozen turtle]

Fruma queen doesnt have a blessing

i swear Two is shorter then us

and I think Tasim will grow

[rustic nexus]

player with the pillaring tower of hats cosmetic clears smh smh

[limber swan]

no she is taller

[hybrid gazelle]

No Two just look small becaue of how much her cloth do all the work

[untold warren]

We (YES WE) love a short queen ong

[dim plover]

Wait is she

[rustic nexus]

two is basically player size

[dim plover]

Lemme check brb

[untold warren]

Is this why my uni is forcing me to get a health test? Damn.

[mossy widget]

who buying

[rustic nexus]

just like 2-3 pixels higher

[rustic nexus]

no way

throws it on the floor

[frozen turtle]

The Queen doesnt want women to be tall

apart from her

[hybrid gazelle]

she girlboss

and tbh Zhiraok and Majin just work better as taller model

since they are boss fight

I feel like Bak'al gonna be different IDK

[frozen turtle]

maybe its just the sovereigns we fight become tall idk

weird trend im seeing

[dim plover]

She's player height

[hybrid gazelle]

Wing member are tall

have you seen lancer?

have you seen Hyhet?

those mf tall

[rustic nexus]

bak'al is gonna have a resident evil style boss transformation

[frozen turtle]

does the player have a prejudice against tall people

[hybrid gazelle]

No

because Aledar exist

Aledar comfirm to be big

[rustic nexus]

yeah like, her texture perfectly fit a player skin template

[frozen turtle]

i mean hate to break it to you but we do kinda kill aledar (even tho its a sacrifice but oh well, im using it to prove my point)

[mossy widget]

do you think her hood is like. inflatable

[rustic nexus]

the hood is actually held up by a steel skeleton to keep it in shape

[frozen turtle]

the hood makes her look smaller

[frozen turtle]

cuz you assume her height is just a hood

[rustic nexus]

she's all ears

[mossy widget]

yeah.

[frozen turtle]

that rabbit is not human

[rustic nexus]

ok so like

the canopy charms

what.

would they be like

[dim plover]

I do want to make an Anathema model one day

[rustic nexus]

backwards engineered runes

[frozen turtle]

smiley faces

[untold warren]

Send me that shit, I have nefarious ideas

[dim plover]

As complex as the model is something tells me that it's not going to be as bad as some of the others I've done

[drifting aurora]

i love the canopy talismans and im sad we didnt get to go into them that much in the quests

[dim plover]

That being said I haven't actually unlocked Wartorn so I'm either going to have to wait until I finish Apotheosis or get someone to Replay Mod for me again

At least raids are repeatable

[rustic nexus]

surely in the deraj quest...

[frozen turtle]

i want more mistwood content

[rustic nexus]

I wish we saw more if them besides thunder/stun ones

[dim plover]

Actually I might as well get it early

Does anyone here plan to run WTP soon

[neat oriole]

⁉️

[dim plover]

I know I should click on him but my finger isn't moving

[mossy widget]

tsm

[rustic nexus]

woah, our friend from the beginning of our adventure
tism

[dim plover]

I know I should start the quest

I know that the alt route isn't coming out anytime soon and that I'm only delaying me getting all the cool new stuff by doing this

[hybrid gazelle]

I wonder what is minor update after Fruma woudl be

stuff like 2.2.1 or something

Expanding on mount stuff and epliogue would be nice

[dim plover]

Okay I'll start the quest E

I'll speedrun through it for fun though, someone time me and see how long I take

Ok go

[dim plover]

Not too bad

[mossy badge]

Just don't move and he drags u 🤯

[dim plover]

For a guy who only appears once they have a weirdly unique name and skin

Have we seen this name anywhere else

[mossy badge]

I dont think

[dim plover]

Wait why did they change the models for these things

Strange

No fullstop after the level

[drifting aurora]

cause it was bad before

oh or you mean the tnt

[dim plover]

This joke doesn't work in the new version of the tutorial :(

[dim plover]

The TNT yeah
Originally it was like a pile of them

[drifting aurora]

the old ones were still armorstand models and we're trying to phase those out

[dim plover]

Oh lol

[mossy badge]

Best dungeon in wonncraft 🤔 ✅

[dim plover]

The new ones are kinda more simple though

[drifting aurora]

shrug

[dim plover]

Hey the gate isn't a model anymore

Sorry for the messages I just like doing commentary on the quests I'm in

7000?

[mossy badge]

W xp

[dim plover]

I didn't film it but a lot of the guards get stuck outside of the arena during the Commander Lilies fight

[frozen turtle]

surely this is teasing that Wastelands will add a new dungeon.. surely

[earnest prairie]

thank god im a boltslinger so my sentient bows did the job for me lol

i do hope that wastelands introduces with the update some new dungeons for gavel and maybe fruma (scaling would he scary tho)

[dim plover]

First they have to get rid of Corrupted Dungeons

[frozen turtle]

i hope/think eventually if they do a dungeon rework they'll get rid of or change corrupted dungeons

[split night]

CT make an ultrakill-like game mode and my life is yours

[frozen turtle]

Corrupted dungeons don't even make sense lorewise (the forgery was some stupid lore about rune experiments but i dont get how that makes the area corrupted)

make them idk decay dungeons or smth

[slim belfry]

would be neat if corrupted dungeons share the same alt scenarios shown in AHC

[mossy badge]

Sure bro 😂 ✌️

Gavel aint getting any new dungeons in this decade

[frozen turtle]

true, like make it more idk apocalyptic then just "dungeon but corrupted red"

which i still dont get why the Corrupted Dungeons are in the land which has no Corruption

[slim belfry]

?

all of them are in wynn except GG

[mossy badge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071393285500829759/1420520316697968791/togif.gif

(There isn't)

[earnest prairie]

themes and such. hype and aura

[nocturne nimbus]

there is obviously a reason for it

[surreal lava]

i know this might be a dumb question but do we know if there are portals between realm of war, and realm of light/dern respectively

[frozen turtle]

the way you get to them is in

gavel

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[nocturne nimbus]

wouldn't make sense to have them be decayed anyway, the dungeons are in wynn

one is in the ocean I suppose

[frozen turtle]

they just dont make sense

in general

[mossy badge]

The reason is ct didn't give a fuck about lore back then 🤯

[earnest prairie]

give me dullahan dungeon and my life is yours!

[mossy badge]

Give me mortal mountain + wind fortress

[frozen turtle]

the forgery is kinda just like a relic

[mossy badge]

Clock dungeon 🥺

[nocturne nimbus]

corrupted dungeons are definitely an old concept but it's not like they're incomprehensible

there's a secret discovery about it

[frozen turtle]

it explains forgery, not why its like corrupted

[earnest prairie]

omg i remember 6 yrs ago i got all the clocks for that one discovery just to find out they removed it but not the items

[mossy badge]

Just cuz they are comprehensible doesn't mean its not a bs concept

[frozen turtle]

I could see a vision where its not "corrupted" dungeons but like, the worst version they could be if they won or smth like that

[split night]

AHC but the drug hit harder

[frozen turtle]

3 of the dungeons shouldnt even be corrupted

[mossy badge]

I also have all the clocks 🔥

[earnest prairie]

more room for creativity too than just lavify it

[mossy badge]

Surely they'll add clock mystery in wasteland update

[frozen turtle]

i see potential, i get that it was mainly a filler for raids which is fine

[earnest prairie]

all roads lead to spy kids 4

[frozen turtle]

but i dont think its defendable as it is

for lore

and makes sense as a concept

[frozen turtle]

i guess Ice barrows kinda makes sense cuz yk, he was corrupted but

[slim belfry]

what did they mean by this

[mossy badge]

Instead of crimson (corruption), they should be purple (time) recolor 🔥

[surreal lava]

spy kids 4 main villain is the clock king and he gets frozen in time

[mossy badge]

🪞

[earnest prairie]

terraria aah move

(i love u redigit dont kill me)

[frozen turtle]

just make each corrupted dungeon have a random extra colour theme

[split night]

Just give them actual good reason to be a harder dungeon instead worldedit the ass out of existing dungeon with random netherrack block

[mossy badge]

The forgery should be a big mirror

[split night]

it's fucking suck

[mossy badge]

💡

[slim belfry]

this is true but everyone knows wynn is good route calamity mod

[frozen turtle]

it was filler so i get why it exists as it is, it just could be more now

[frozen turtle]

GG and Desert one just dont even make sense for this
corruption doesnt spread to those regions too

[mossy badge]

Btw why do ppl compare two (a person) to forgery (an "endgame" content) ?

[frozen turtle]

who is people

comparing that

[split night]

they want more Two content 😔

[mossy badge]

Idk

Trashie i think

So maybe its just bs

[frozen turtle]

i've never heard of that

what

[slim belfry]

???????

nobody said that

[frozen turtle]

Source?

trust

[earnest prairie]

two slander

[mossy badge]

_ _

Source

[pure pond]

Coming back to this game after an insanely long time, is the lore good👀

[slim belfry]

ohhhhh

[mossy badge]

Eh

[earnest prairie]

Lobotomy wynncraft

[frozen turtle]

what

[surreal lava]

i guess two and forgery both play with the theme of fate and alternate/future timelines

but so does ahc

[slim belfry]

Fruma is
rest needs more work

[frozen turtle]

Forgery does not even play on "alternate timelines" imo

[mossy badge]

Its just corrupted slop

[surreal lava]

true

[earnest prairie]

anathema approves on this message

[frozen turtle]

i just wish forgery was more yk

[pure pond]

Nice

[mossy badge]

This post was checked by real fruman patriots ✅

[frozen turtle]

either making the "corrupted" dungeons unique or have actual gavel dungeons

ik they have raids in gavel but like i dont wanna play with people

[mossy badge]

Both 🤑 More content = good

[earnest prairie]

what if they just bombed forgery out of existence

[frozen turtle]

i've never actually done Nexus of Light funnily enough

[surreal lava]

dullahan is like the most obvious spot for a dungeon though

[mossy badge]

I think forgery could be just dungeons hardmode

[earnest prairie]

like orphion saw that place and said “ugly rock”

[mossy badge]

lol

[surreal lava]

i can't think of anywhere else you could easily put them without adding in a quest or more lore

[frozen turtle]

like, i was bragging about how i stopped the decay in NoL to two but i lowkey didnt

[earnest prairie]

i can see maybe sky pirates if they can be considered a staple canon race

[mossy badge]

wat

[earnest prairie]

emphasis on the considered

[mossy badge]

Mortal mountain, wind fortress, clock dungeon

[surreal lava]

i could see them being expanded but in their current state they feel two small even though they take place in two quests

[mossy badge]

Also whats wrong with more quests smh

[slim belfry]

this was me when I was talked about taking down the fallen factory

[mossy badge]

Fallen factory is such a jolly 🎅 dungeon

[earnest prairie]

god do not remind me of the gear room in fallen factory

[slim belfry]

is it bad enough to make you shout

[earnest prairie]

as an agility boltslinger i am running so fast i cant ever actually parkour bc i move 10m every w tap

[surreal lava]

there's nothing wrong with more quest but gavel feels kind of packed especially in the later sky islands/cotl/molten hights end

[earnest prairie]

no but it makes me groan a lil in annoyance

[earnest prairie]

cant beat hollow serenity tho

[neat oriole]

so jolly

[frozen turtle]

shouts are actual worst addition to the game

[mossy badge]

Meh

[slim belfry]

the fallen factory and fruma beta incidents are perfect examples

[earnest prairie]

idek wtf shouts are ngl. i see them and its just ppl typing out sus messages what make me wanna type “vhat”

[mossy badge]

Imagine having shouts enabled 😂

[frozen turtle]

also annoying when ur tryna play fruma for the first time and the shouts are lowkey kinda spoilers at times

[mossy badge]

Thats why i disabled em 🤯

[earnest prairie]

idek how to disable them 😭 tho i cant be bothered bc i barely look at global chat

[frozen turtle]

if i knew how to disable them

i would

[mossy badge]

Wonntils

[dim plover]

Oh wait I was under the impression that Wynncraft doesn't have the tech to make player model NPCs sit yet

Why were they all standing on their chairs in the Silver Feathers base lmao

[frozen turtle]

i cannot get wynntils to work for some reason, its kinda sad

[mossy badge]

How wtf

[slim belfry]

I think they forgot lol

[frozen turtle]

my pc lowkey buns

[surreal lava]

shouts are fun during annie but that's it because everyone is wishing each other good luck

[mossy badge]

lmao real

[earnest prairie]

they wanted to flex their balancing skills on a chair ofc

[mossy badge]

Bro my pc is 10+ years old yet i can run mc with 60+ fps with mods 😭

[surreal lava]

and why was there not enough chairs in the steel feathers

[earnest prairie]

avg pc experience honestly. sometimes the system will take literally anything BUT the one thing u want

[slim belfry]

yeah annie shouts are fine

local messages can be weird sometimes tho

one of my guildmates did say an unhinged anni shout tho

[frozen turtle]

mine is also 10+ years old, i can get like 30fps with optifine and stuff

[mossy badge]

Optifine..

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-reverse-smile-ishowspeed-confused-gif-17362243368421867313

[frozen turtle]

sodium sometimes

i got my pc for free so like i cant complain

[earnest prairie]

oh btw does anyone know what happened to the other ppl who came into fruma with us after the tournament? bc i was unsure if they got memory wiped 100% then shipped back or just their memories of being in fruma for the tournament then shipped back

[mossy badge]

I dont think any1 got memory wiped

They just dont care

Ig

[earnest prairie]

awesomeness

[surreal lava]

i could see them maybe coming back for the wasteland quests now that queen is gone

[frozen turtle]

question is if wastelands content will take place before or after apothesis

[mossy badge]

I mean other than picard, does any1 else even really care

[frozen turtle]

I feel like they mught've wiped Picards cuz, he was a lil rat

[dim plover]

They forgot the bottom texture >:(

[earnest prairie]

i hope that when we gotta go to dern or the next province we get to start the quest in the area where that last quest for fruma coming ends

it’d feel nice to just reverse our way back to the gate before continuing our journey and just meet people thanking us

[surreal lava]

two feels like the next big bad but that might just be me

[hybrid gazelle]

Towing

twoing

[frozen turtle]

Two is dern beast

[earnest prairie]

two kinda just seems like shes there for fun and speaks mysterious so that ppl dont know shes out there for laughs

[mossy badge]

She's the next big good

[frozen turtle]

think about it like, saphanis lost 1 where, where is eye number two..?

[slim belfry]

her theme is awesome

[frozen turtle]

Two is the 2nd eye confirmed pretty sure

[slim belfry]

mysterious good guy vibe theme

[surreal lava]

wasn't the eye made from dern beast why would two be against him?

[hybrid gazelle]

huh

[frozen turtle]

and what does Two do? spy.

[hybrid gazelle]

the eye is from Dern Beast

[frozen turtle]

exactly i figured it out

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah

[earnest prairie]

eye spy

[frozen turtle]

Two is the 2nd eye of the dern beast

[earnest prairie]

mmmm i get it

[frozen turtle]

a portable eye

cuz its like a car game

eye spy

[mossy badge]

Ye bro surely its a big fuckass eye below that dress

[earnest prairie]

im such a cornball for thinking of that pun

[earnest prairie]

have u SEEN her majesty’s waistline? anything is possible

girl was SNATCHED

[mossy badge]

lol

[hybrid gazelle]

she was snatched because there literally no organ in there

[frozen turtle]

exactlyyy

cuz she's an eyebal

l

[surreal lava]

queen is a moth?

[frozen turtle]

guys if i get muted from the server its cuz im right and the staff dont want me revealing the truth

[earnest prairie]

two is obviously elphie guys

[slim belfry]

unrealistic body goal for some people 😔

[earnest prairie]

(i love spreading misinformation)

[frozen turtle]

if u don't have Two's waistline, what are you doing with ur life

[earnest prairie]

believe and anything is possible. maybe if tasim works hard enough even he will get that hourglass

[surreal lava]

is there a corrupted element or are there just the corrupted mana strands?

[frozen turtle]

corrruption isnt an element

[surreal lava]

light and dark are there

[frozen turtle]

light, dark and corruption aren't elements but "influences"

[split night]

I'm afraid new beauty standart just dropped and it's looking impossible 😭

[surreal lava]

do you not remember ajf light and dark are also elements

[split night]

It's not cannon btw

[mossy badge]

CT say its not canon

[surreal lava]

ah

[split night]

CT confimed this in multiple occasion

throughout the years-

[slim belfry]

yeah it was a miscommunication error

that lasted way too long

[mossy badge]

Rework it ingame ❌
Tell it on discord ✅
🤯

[split night]

they really need to start rework ajb right now otherwise people will keep getting confused about it

xd

now that ajb and ajf is a requirement

[frozen turtle]

(this is kinda my own theory but like, imagine influences, light, dark and corruption are like dye, but like if dye was intangible, and the realms or corrupted/light things we see are materials just dyed)

so take it with a grain of salt

[split night]

theory

[slim belfry]

good way to put it

[surreal lava]

yes i know how influences work i just thought light and dark were also elements because of ajb

[frozen turtle]

or way of saying it

i mean we know corrupted material can be bleached to just become material so

so its kinda more of an analogy persay

[slim belfry]

LOL

[mossy badge]

I think they are the whole of the realm's own elements

[split night]

I always interpret them as material warp to be similar to it but not quite
like how Void warp matter simply because matter entering a place of no place where physic doesn't exist

[frozen turtle]

love this

[split night]

It's like, the material is still there, it's just warped

[frozen turtle]

yeah thats kinda what im saying, like its a base material but influenced in some way

i just used dye based on the WTP boss room

[surreal lava]

is realm of war on it's own plane because wasn't in the diagram that two made war lower or higher than light and dark

[split night]

yeah Realm of War is just a reflection of their Hate but also its own realm as well
still god, just beneath them

[frozen turtle]

as i think its the only? example we have of a matter of influence having the influence removed and turned back into just normal reality

[surreal lava]

the dern portal that bakal conjures during rolV

[split night]

It's similar to Anathema's portal at the end of Apotheosis I'd say

[frozen turtle]

rifts

[split night]

just on a much smaller scale

yeah you can call it rift

wormhole

portal

[frozen turtle]

there are like portals (more permanent connections), and rifts are more temporary ones i think

[split night]

it's just name we give thing that move us to somewhere

[frozen turtle]

or an easy way to

tell the difference

[surreal lava]

canonically yes it's just easier to say portal because that's just how that words used

[split night]

that's just word, what in the story say that xd

[surreal lava]

word's

[neat oriole]

why is majin cheeked like that

is this lore accurate

[frozen turtle]

majin does squats

[neat oriole]

ic

[surreal lava]

are there only portals in wynn or are there also counterpart portals in the other realms

[frozen turtle]

portals to realm of war or

[split night]

yeah? RoL have a returning portal back to the physical realm

[surreal lava]

is the plaza thing at the beginning of realm of light a portal to wynn

[split night]

the entrance

It's just a door

like a door with 2 room basically

or an elevator?

[surreal lava]

also are there portals between realm of war and dern/light

[split night]

how are we suppose to know that

xd

[frozen turtle]

not that we know of yeah

[split night]

like we don't know that

[surreal lava]

i didn't know if we knew or not

[frozen turtle]

i doubt they would but always a possibility

ig

[surreal lava]

just from the diagram the lines look permanent if we are to trust two's diagram

[split night]

the portal seems to have open before 0AP

the event in 0AP is the portal reopening

if i interpret Two's explanation correctly

[slim belfry]

yes there were two portal openings

[frozen turtle]

the reason for the portals is cuz they want the physical realm too

i dont think the 3 realms would want to connect to eachother

[slim belfry]

we know all about the 0 AP one but have no information at all regarding the first opening

[frozen turtle]

light and dark hate eachother, and war hates both of them

[split night]

They are fighting for influence, Light and Dark yeah

War just kinda took after them

[frozen turtle]

War is just a kid looking up to their parents

[surreal lava]

does war hate them or just want to stop either from taking too much power over the other

[frozen turtle]

neglectful parents

[split night]

Seems like the first opening was TOO long ago, like even before history was documented

that it's just lost to time

i don't even know whether or not sapien species existed at that time

xd

[frozen turtle]

Anathema clearly states the wanting to stop them

but i wouldnt be suprised if the realm of hate, hates the realms what created it

[split night]

She want to protect Fruma at all cost, her little heaven
so stopping the influence is the goal yes

the way she stop it is that she would bullshit them and threaten them that she will destroy the physical realm if they do anything

Light and Dark don't want that because of their ego

they can't stand a thing beneath them destroy something they want to take themselves

[frozen turtle]

and now Anathema is gone

fun times

[split night]

calamity

[surreal lava]

do we know if annihilation works/worked under anathema

[split night]

nope

[frozen turtle]

annihilations are just mindless

or well

idk mindless but yk what i mean

[slim belfry]

they are mindless though

[split night]

Think of the Realm as body
the spark are the minds

Anathema depart from her realm literally mean that the Realm lost its conscious so its acting out like a body doing thing mindlessly

Like Realmic Antigen in RoL

[frozen turtle]

what if the hatred between Realm of War between Light and Dark made a smaller realm of war

[surreal lava]

do we have a name for light spreading in dark yet or is that also just decay

[slim belfry]

that's just itself smh

[dim plover]

I am the master of stealth

[frozen turtle]

not really, i mean its a thing that happens but less notable

[split night]

Lutho

[frozen turtle]

we only really see it in lutho

and the alternate thing

[split night]

kind of?

[surreal lava]

lutho and happy lutho is that but i was wondering if there was a name for it

[frozen turtle]

like, there isnt really a name for it

[split night]

I have a concept name for Light blinding the dark as The Saturation for WynnSwap AU

[mossy badge]

Decay is bs

[frozen turtle]

Decay isnt real

[surreal lava]

is it all just corruption?

[split night]

No

Corruption is a byproduct of Hate or an extension of it

It is not caused by Light and Dark touching but caused by the HATE between them

[mossy badge]

Decay is "absence of light"

Apparently

[split night]

also the Decay is referring to the absence of light

[frozen turtle]

I think Decay is moreso

[split night]

the parasite was sucking light juices out of the land

[frozen turtle]

the replacement of Dark from light

[mossy badge]

Bullshit

[frozen turtle]

then just removing light

[split night]

not really we would have seen more purple grass and eyed trees in the swamp

xd

[frozen turtle]

corruption can be physically made from the two touching

[slender copper]

The fact that they are both staring directly at Zeph and not reacting is amazing lmao.

[frozen turtle]

There are "dark spirits" and things like that in Kander

and

a bunch of dark creatures

which shouldnt occur if its the removal of light

[split night]

The parasite is touching everything in RoL and create no corruption
I can even draw an obvious example

of The Parasite literally hugging Orphion

[frozen turtle]

(RoL 3, cutscene)

Lari & Parasite fight, creates light, dark and then corrupted material

[split night]

Two's explaination
i tend to use later sources

[surreal lava]

that might be outdated though

[frozen turtle]

maybe

orrr

it could be because they were fighting

which is why it made corruption

and not just any contact

[split night]

Light and dark touching to create corruption is weird ass concept
this just mean that Orphion and Saphanis canonically fucked and birthed Anathema

[frozen turtle]

i think it might just be something that can happen

cause, they were fighting and corruption was made

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[surreal lava]

does lari hate thought i feel she pretty intentionally tried not to

[split night]

huh? what

[surreal lava]

her whole pacifism schtick feels like she doesn't hate the parasites and much more sees them as bugs that she needs to get rid of rather than actaul hatred

[frozen turtle]

(also would just reccomend looking at the wiki mobs, https://wynncraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Kander_Forest, cause the mobs are strange if the Decay just removed light)

[slim belfry]

makes it awkward when darkness breached light soooooooooo

[split night]

addicts tend to behave similarly when their drug got cut too fast

otherwise i can only fall back on the fact that these thing are pretty old

[frozen turtle]

it wouldn't turn them into dark

i think we can agree that its old and probably not written properly

which makes it confusing

[split night]

yeah it would just let them be a dry corpse basiacally

[frozen turtle]

yeah, but these things are not dry corpses

[split night]

metaphor

also just trust the Fruma quests

they are more reliable sources compare to the rest of the game

if we can't trust WynnEx's cosmic crystal, why trust WynnEx's explanation on the corruption? xd

[surreal lava]

wait we can't?

[split night]

WynnEx is VERY old

like it's so old that the chance of it getting a rework is near zero

[mossy badge]

U can't trust anything in this game other than fruma smh

[frozen turtle]

the entire region is full of dark creatures is my thing

like

[split night]

I agree

[frozen turtle]

idk

If we're going purely based on Fruma then yeah

but just observing the actual Decay is acompletely different story

Decay just hasnt been properly determined yet i think or like

consistent

is a better word

[split night]

even SE's material aren't even reliable
as Dark isn't an element

then by observation alone could be very wrong

[surreal lava]

i feel like a lot of fruma is also probably pretty biased lore based much more on anathema and two's bias against light and dark

[split night]

It's the most modern and accurate lore we have on everything realm related

[frozen turtle]

i think its just a case of the game not deciding which one it is

[split night]

in term of contexts and quality

[surreal lava]

true but we shouldn't trust anything in wynn 100%

[mossy badge]

[surreal lava]

especially stuff that comes from the beings of influence / anathema

[split night]

inconsistency is this game life blood i swear 😔

Soosu is confirmed to be a young adult now btw

she isn't a kid

[frozen turtle]

like realistically, the dark forest can't be the way it is if the decay works they say it works in Fruma

so either they're gonna have to rework the entire forest or change that

[frozen turtle]

I knew that I still just dont get the reasoning

like ik its confirmed but i dont get it

[mossy badge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071393285500829759/1420520316697968791/togif.gif

Wonncraft lore in 1 image

[split night]

Not even needing Fruma
the decay is explained very clearly in RoL questline and SDs

[frozen turtle]

yeah

[split night]

It's light juice getting suck out of light thing

[frozen turtle]

tho i think the entire forest contradicts it just removing light, but oh well

[surreal lava]

except a lot of the enemies are dark themed not blank

[split night]

you can see the flowers and mushrooms are more closely related to RoL than to the normal thing around it in Physical plane

[frozen turtle]

Wynns gonna be inconsistent

[frozen turtle]

blank or actually decaying/dying
the enemies are like, turning dark is the thing

[split night]

a wilted rose might be interpret as dark when it is in its decay

I imagine this can be apply to the situation

[frozen turtle]

eh

[split night]

please it's a metaphor don't take it like it's a brick

xd

[slim belfry]

idk it's always been mentioned since the beta

[frozen turtle]

its just, i will never believe these creatures came about from lack of light,

[mossy badge]

Pedro pascal

[split night]

People playing it raw in the game NEVER get the explaination ANYWHERE in the game that she is a young adult

[frozen turtle]

did u end up hearing/learning any justification for why Soosu is a young adult actually

cause i've just been told by CT not given any like, backing statement

[mossy badge]

"There is a reason for it"

[split night]

I have a better working theory
What if The parasite not just sucking light energy
but convert said energy into dark?
like bug eat light thing and shit dark

[frozen turtle]

LITERALLLY

[split night]

Nope

I never got any explaination on it

[slim belfry]

I've always thought that the drained light let darkness take over

[split night]

or this

[frozen turtle]

that would make sense honestly and its kinda what i thought
it would also be more accurate as thats how parasites work

[split night]

that could work yeah

[frozen turtle]

well yeah but why would dark be there

[surreal lava]

i feel like it is pretty inferred that she is a young adult like 18-25 because she doesn't want to be tied down to the sovereign role for her entire life and that is just a typical theme with ya characters and real life people

[frozen turtle]

unless parasite was adding dark

cuz by that logic shouldnt everywhere be light or dark

[slim belfry]

same with the leaves

[mossy badge]

The parasite is breeding 6 morbillion dark creatures

🤯

[slim belfry]

the leaves feel like college freshmen in my opinion

[frozen turtle]

the leaves seem older and more matured like youngadults

Soosu does not

[mossy badge]

But the leaves actually look like it, while soosu looks like 10 🔥

And acts like it

[split night]

It's an odd thing that the leaves does feel like young adults to me
while from what I have seen, Soosu being interpret as kid has been MUCH more common

[surreal lava]

reverse anime

[split night]

you gotta wonder why is that

[frozen turtle]

yk, they could've at least had it so Soosu was given Sovereign as a child but not given the eternity water until she matured

but that ended up messing her up still

[slim belfry]

she got the shortness medical condition by living in the roughworks all her life

[split night]

my favorite dark creature, a rope

[frozen turtle]

I could see Her Majesty just giving her an ascenion then one of the Sovereigns being like "bro thats a kid let her grow up"

[mossy badge]

Not a single soul is short like that

[split night]

She's a dwarf ( not a species, a body type )

[slim belfry]

I'm messing around I think she's just like that

[frozen turtle]

ropes are clear sign of Saphanis

[surreal lava]

dorcha literally means dark in gaelic

[split night]

I said dark creature yeah

[frozen turtle]

i just wanna hear a justification for why Soosu isnt a kid
and i havent heard one yet

"there is a reason for it"

[mossy badge]

Because!

[slim belfry]

all of the stuff was in story spoilers ugh

but bottom line is

[mossy badge]

95% of ppl prolly think she's a child

[slim belfry]

the stuff in the journal entries happened over a long period of time

[frozen turtle]

yeah?

[slim belfry]

as in maybe even decade long but it doesnt have enough to imply that

[split night]

have you like
read Entry#8 and Entry#9

[surreal lava]

how long does the wynncraft story take place in or do we not know

[mossy badge]

Events of the game? Under a year

Or if u mean history, well its usually told

[surreal lava]

that feels short for the entire maxi wedding

[slim belfry]

yeah what about them

[split night]

It's very weird to be, there are clearly a lot of benefit for the story if Soosu was a child
but then it doesn't make her suffering and tragedy any less tragic

I just think of it as less impactful

[slim belfry]

?

she's still young though

[mossy badge]

Well ye ppl think they should actually make time pass outside fruma

[frozen turtle]

yeah the diaries dont give the impressions its over a long period of time

[surreal lava]

fruma is obviously a short time like around a month at most

[frozen turtle]

i mean the part after she gets the ascenion does

[split night]

She have her youth robbed but not her childhood is what im saying
still bad, it's just a bit less impactful

[slim belfry]

ehhhh

[split night]

I mean it can clearly make Her's Majesty even more cruel in the story

[hybrid gazelle]

I pretty sure they just dont want to be weird about it

[split night]

Make her character more tragic

[hybrid gazelle]

the child but she is 1000 years old is a very

something of a trope

IDk how to describe it

[split night]

yeah an elderly child

[frozen turtle]

then they should make it clearer she's not a child lol

[slim belfry]

strangely very common trope why is it even

[frozen turtle]

or my idea is to have her become a Sovereign but not gain immortality until she's an adult

cuz that would explain why she still acts like a child due to that early Sovereign title

yet not have the weird part

[split night]

that or make her slightly taller
she look like a plush toy with enhanced limb

[surreal lava]

it can be used for both tragedy and comedy and is useful for gods/beings related to time

[slim belfry]

I think she's the same height as the player

ok maybe not correct me if I'm wrong

[frozen turtle]

i dont think she is

she also just sits down a lot so

which i think her always sitting makes her seem smaller too lol

[surreal lava]

spy kids 4 for example

[split night]

honestly a child 1000 years old is weird trope
but an adult with child appearance and childlike mentality is no different

It's kind of two side of the same coin

it's doomed to be weird either way

[hybrid gazelle]

she does not even meant to have child-lik body

[split night]

yeah yet people interpret it like that either way and it became too common

[surreal lava]

i feel like it's wierd unless you do something like yoda

[split night]

I wish the SD make it more clear she is an adult with the tone shift more gradual instead of a sharp change

[split night]

yeah this is an option

xd

[frozen turtle]

especially since the sharp change is after the ascension

[split night]

it leave a lot to interpret it as the change is because of her ascension majorly and no one would think that it is because she's an adult between 8# and 9#

like

[frozen turtle]

the tonal shifts starts as she talks about her ascension makes everything seem 'gray' which like

[split night]

there are a lot of chain events in the game that unfortunately make her being interpret as a child by the majority of the community

[frozen turtle]

makes it just seem like an issue with the ascension not that shes an adult

[surreal lava]

do we even know what ascension looks like

[split night]

like what d oyou mean by this xd

[surreal lava]

as in how it is done

[split night]

you mean like how the process look or how it look after ascension

[mossy badge]

Ask anathema to do it for

[split night]

we don't know

[surreal lava]

the process

[mossy badge]

(ur cooked)

[hybrid gazelle]

from the wayt that ZHiraok describe it

in his diary

it literally just you come to the queen

[surreal lava]

oh true

[hybrid gazelle]

with other soverigns presence

and the queen bless you

and boom mark is on you

[split night]

It's painful mostly I assume?

from the way Zhiraok chat with Tasim

[mossy badge]

I mean we die

[split night]

We probably can take on ascension
but we will implode like Majin if we take a lot of it RAW and HARD

being in her shell make her mark more processed i think

[mossy badge]

Bro u literally die

When u ask ana

Unless u bug abuse and somehow survive

[split night]

we literally ask Ana to focus ALL of her into us

[slim belfry]

that's unfocused power not with the shell

[split night]

it's different

[mossy badge]

Still

A blessing

[surreal lava]

are there more than 4 realms like death's place and the realm that slykaar created how do those work or are they also not cannon

[split night]

not even counting the fact that we're asking for ALL of anathema to be inside us

it's literally different from normal blessing

like Zhiraok seem to gain speed from his ascension
Soosu manipulate matter

it's a different type for each person
so that is a different aspect of Anathema

Taking all of Anathema in is like taking all power of the other sovereign into one sovereign

it's insane

[surreal lava]

it's probably way more than that

[split night]

yeah

ALL of anathema

that's extreme

we would die, immediately, that's why it's different from blessing

we just consume her

xd

[surreal lava]

i feel like we might be able to do it eventually though at the endgame endgame

or take in a influence

[split night]

2065

trust

[slim belfry]

so this is what people mean when they say they can take her

[split night]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-look-cat-look-at-camera-silly-cat-in-a-cage-gif-889392959852579879

[slim belfry]

ehhhhhhh

[mossy badge]

I mean i dont remember the dialogue but are we sure she is giving ALL of her power and not like with bak'al?

[slim belfry]

idk about that

[slim belfry]

bak'al did and barely survived

[surreal lava]

the whole blank thing in apotheosis makes me feel like we will become godlike eventually

[slim belfry]

so I wonder how much frickin bak'al had

[split night]

yes

we literally ask her to transfer all of it to us

and she said we would die

basically that

where is the google doc

[split night]

probably a cut of her?
all of her sovereign are scion so like I imagine Bak'al is probably have power of at least 2 or more

he was the first so he take the most

[surreal lava]

i could also see him taking significantly less because he was anathema's first so she probably didn't know exactly how to do it

[frozen turtle]

is apart of Anathema in the sovereigns

and does she get the power back when the sovereigns die

[untold warren]

aint she dead?

[split night]

we really don't see much of it being shown
his power is literally just commanding army and that's it

we don't see anything much

[frozen turtle]

yeah but like before she died

sovereigns were dying

[split night]

we don't know??

majin imploded so

like

i don't know what that means for her

[untold warren]

actually wait, the sovereigns could give up their power to revive the Queen in their own image

just a theory though

[split night]

no

[hybrid gazelle]

Two seems to imply that the mark will stay on

[untold warren]

Gikyo got his ass impaled dawg

[split night]

have you read the last dialog from Two in Apotheosis

[surreal lava]

i doubt they would even if they could

[untold warren]

hell fucking no, i was distracted

[frozen turtle]

they can, its called the anathema pet 100%

[split night]

I fricking referring to the fact that we don't know what happen when a sovereign die NOT that we don't know if a sovereign already dead

😭

read the room dude

[split night]

you're gross

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1177471792579887114/1195250962701500466/attachment.gif

[untold warren]

i never implied anything

I was eating gng

[split night]

i know what you're implying

[frozen turtle]

distracted on reels

who knows

[split night]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/343781354854416385/1487529785474416721/togif.gif

[untold warren]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8LRZRqQ-7o

[mossy badge]

Imagine eating 😂 how gross ✌️

[untold warren]

started with olinus, ended with olinus

had to watch my boi one last time before i finished the quest

[pine flower]

Ew never eat again

[split night]

considering what the guy said about Two, im not trusting these statements

[untold warren]

Dawg you weren't even there in the cooking stream

[untold warren]

Good, you shouldn't

however

[pine flower]

Is there something wrong with having opinions on a collection of pixels

[pine flower]

Its true im a fraud

[split night]

have you read what he said

xd

[pine flower]

No

[split night]

I'm fine if people find her attractive
or any fictional people attractive really

[untold warren]

Im just freaky

like i aint gonna lie, im living up to my name

[split night]

at least you're honest with it

😔

[untold warren]

thats much better

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/gato-cat-rigby-gato-coqueto-rico-gif-4061476440942373994

[frozen turtle]

no one should be allowed to find Two attractive or any fictional character

unless i think their attractive

[split night]

You are sleeping on Seaskipper Captain

he is quite attractive

[frozen turtle]

Seaskipper is

[slim belfry]

smh greedy

[untold warren]

aight lets start with the classics

[frozen turtle]

tho i think he's evil

[untold warren]

you marryin or you killing? Joan of Arc

we starting with the classics

[slim belfry]

1000% marry

[split night]

to be fair i have seen you said this to like every other characters so anyone is evil to you at this point

[frozen turtle]

CLASSICS lol

[surreal lava]

neither i respect her

[split night]

xd

[pine flower]

I have no say in the matter, up to her

[frozen turtle]

i would marry but in a like i respect her and i think shes cool

[untold warren]

aight next in our lot, we got the Mona Lisa

[split night]

i don't know her, so she just look like a person to me

[frozen turtle]

cuz they are evil

[frozen turtle]

nah

[surreal lava]

marry

[untold warren]

John, you're type is leaning towards Knights

[split night]

you are a bit paranoid, im sure al ot of them are fineeeeee

[frozen turtle]

imconvinced on seaskipper, like how is he at every dock

[split night]

he bring us here

[pine flower]

Is there anything wrong with liking knights