is it lighly touch by Light?
#šlore_discussion
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frozen turtle
i mean Light is shown to be weaker
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feel like wasted potential
frozen turtle
so maybe thats why?
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but then again
frozen turtle
idk
frozen turtle
Gavel province will do ANYTHING to be boring
Llevigar plains š„
uneven basin
does it react the same that corruption to water ? the ocean's RIGHT NEXT to hte portal and i see no influence beyong it
hybrid gazelle
god I fucking lveo that shit like Gavel wont exist again
because they focus more on making content dense region than making dead space but not the video game franchise
frozen turtle
Light and Corruption all kinda seem to need life to spread
uneven basin
god I fucking lveo that shit like Gavel wont exist again
it's a third of the map already tho š
frozen turtle
I feel like we're gonna go through phases of Gavel being like Fruma-izied
frozen turtle
eventually
hybrid gazelle
Gavel update region one by one
as each major update out
Gavel likely gettin gradual change
simialr to WYnn province
and on topic of that
frozen turtle
idk if they're gonna wanna release an entire gavel rework
frozen turtle
MARO PEAKS REMOVAL PLEASE
uneven basin
gavel region by region would make for a quick rollout but be jaring for ppl progressing through the game
frozen turtle
gavel region by region would make for a quick rollout but be jaring for ppl prog...
Frumas already kinda jarring lowkey
hybrid gazelle
I think next region to be rework that sound plausible consider the pattern
frozen turtle
in a good way but eh
uneven basin
NEMRACT SWAMP REWORK PLEASE
Oh yeah let's make it an actual swamp
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is Nemract swamp
Nemract content has not been update yet
this is my vision for next major update
acutally no I lie becuase i want next major update to be dungeon rework
and dungeon rework itself would be a lot of work for builders so I dont see any full on build rework
frozen turtle
i would love for actual dungeons to replace the corrupted dungeons
uneven basin
Lost tower is like 15 years old atp xd
hybrid gazelle
beside dungeon itself
so like
whatever update AFTEr dungeon rework
should remake this entire thing
but tbh if plausible
I would love nemract swamp update for dungeon rework
that come iwth charon questline
I dont mention Timelost quest because fuck that
WE NOT GETTING TIMELOST QUEST
frozen turtle
Mt Wynn
hybrid gazelle
I think Nemract swamp should get rework
and Ancient Nemract polish to be its own region
uneven basin
WE NOT GETTING TIMELOST QUEST
I think it's okay to have thje dungeon play like a discovery
hybrid gazelle
I think it's okay to have thje dungeon play like a discovery
this would be cool if it was not the fact that
this is the only dungeon that does that
so it feel liek black sheep than geniune
I really want tot he idea of bonus dungeon
it just
there barely any dungeon that can be consider as bonus worthy
uneven basin
this is the only dungeon that does that
there's no forgery quest
that's .. something
hybrid gazelle
yeah because nobody give a shit about fogery
uneven basin
I do ;-;
hybrid gazelle
Forgery so fucking bad that they rather turn forgery itno its own charavter
than actually work on forgery
uneven basin
imagine if it gave better rewards than a world event
hybrid gazelle
Two is just forgery rework
that why she is a mysterious character
because she is literally forgery rework that try to elude us
she is the Beats of Forgery
She embodiment of the concept of content that will nver get touch again
like Timelost Quset
Clockwork mystery
Corkus
Forgery
and Ocean floor
fuck them ocean floor
but yeah back to Ancient Nemract
like having Nemract be its own region where it just filled with undead and big ass city
would be such a cool set pieces
like c'mon deu there os much dead space here TURN IT INTO A REGION
uneven basin
she is the Beats of Forgery
She embodiment of the concept of content that will n...
realm of TBA
hybrid gazelle
IDK what to even rework about Almuj desert
uneven basin
like having Nemract be its own region where it just filled with undead and big a...
hard agree ancient nermract feels so small
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beside ALmu jitself
it liteally a desert
like geniunely what is there to remake on the desert
uneven basin
almuj is in a good place rn
like yeah it's a desert
it fills its purpose
not every region has to be a spectacle
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Nemract swamp is not
Nemract swamp is barely a swamp
the only good wetland region we got
is not even a region
it's sub region
and it's frog bog
uneven basin
what's wro g with olux swamp ? is it just shit to navigate
hybrid gazelle
it boring for a swamp that suppose to be in high fantasy province
like IDK give me some shedded grootslang mold
or whtaever
and for its size
it just boring
Frog bog literally look more intresting because it way smaller so it does not content with like
being this fuckign big
and have like nothing
there barely a landmark
like the MAP
iS SO DESPERATE TO FIND A LAND MARK
THAT THEY PUT MAIDEN TOWER
LIKE FUCKING MAIDEN TOWER
on the map
that shit is like what if they have that one spring house into landmark on the map
that how desperate it is to find notable landmark in olux
uneven basin
okay yeah early gavel is rough
hybrid gazelle
like frog bog probalby look boring if it big as Olux swamp
but it not so that not a problem
it's also a sub region so it break away from auburn forest
which is very nice
but olux swamp is just
one ISNGLE region
uneven basin
now that I think about it olux swamp has less memorable stuff than almuj desert š
hybrid gazelle
sub region would do gavel good
drifting aurora
i fear they made gavel too big
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keeping the region relatively the same
yeah they mke it too big and so biome get boring real quick
Fruma despite its smaller size
still add subregion to its region
which make the region itself not look too boring
and have more intresting mobs and variety going on
frozen turtle
having sub-swamp regions would be cool
cuz the entire swamp is just swamp and olux
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this is comparison between A fruman region AND a Gavelian region
Auburn Forest have Frog bog and Xima Valley
and Auburn Forest itself
there like variety in there
while Light forest is literally just fucking forest
like
wtf
frozen turtle
Molten heights started to get the gist of having sub regions with the freezing part
hybrid gazelle
yeah but that late into the game
and that freezing part is very small
but it's something
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it still is something
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COTL also have sub region but WE DO NOT TALK ABOUT THAT
uneven basin
maybe start doing that on corkus's monobiome ass
frozen turtle
Corkus has biome itās called
hybrid gazelle
they could nto give a shit about corkus enough to make an biome
they treatl ike Corkus is a size of average ocean island
which it not
like fuck them corkus man
I think Corkus reborn is plausible
consider how
is it bigger than Fruma?
like fucking whatever
it's around Fruma size
frozen turtle
Corkus reborn would be easier then gavel rereborn to start with
hybrid gazelle
yeah it would be
and also like
nothign about COrkus is salvagable
the whole thing gotta go
frozen turtle
Itās in such a weird place level wise
hybrid gazelle
Corkus sound like a DLC island that you can purchase to get access into and enjoy the content
but they cant make DLC so they just this island
and plop it to near late game level range
while you doing DND
it weird
it VERY weird
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it feel like it yeah
frozen turtle
Even though itās an entire province
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but the current progression rn you have to do Corkus LOL
because in its level range
you have option to either DND quest or Feather Fly
which is like
yeah guess man you have 0 choice
frozen turtle
Maybe if they made the levels like Canyon, molten, sky, Corkus, SE then fruma it might be better idk
hybrid gazelle
TBH
if Wynn properly plan
they literally could could restructure the game and have the game go for 200 lvl range
it just the xisting shit they have rn overlap a lot
like Troms and first half of Gavel
Corkus and late half of Gavel
it a mess
frozen turtle
Yeahh
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so now what happen is that
frozen turtle
itās so annoying plying if you wanna do quests in order
hybrid gazelle
Troms have to fight for attention with early part of Gavel
and vice versa with Corkus and late half of Gavel
becuase if they actually want to put attention to every part of these area
they you get content bloated
so IDK what they gonna do
frozen turtle
Just add an extra few levels to give them more breathing room, wonāt be a mess to balance at all
hybrid gazelle
I think player should have option between going to Corkus or Motlen Height
The thing is that
some level in near late game
just non eixstence
like this shit is rough
you only get one quest per level
this shit is a crawl
uneven basin
world events / secret discoverie / caves
frozen turtle
They need to just keep the provinces seperate level groups
uneven basin
also it's still an rpg you gotta grind a bit
hybrid gazelle
yeah but
you paly wyncnraft for quest
and have like
near late game only have few quests is just
kinda wrong LOL
it nto even about the grind it just
Wow man I reach near late game
and all I get is like
1 quest per level
frozen turtle
Quests just sizzle out at a certain point
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and itn ot like SE is ANY BETTER
uneven basin
you get a LOT of exp tough
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yeah it to make up for lack of quest
but like
wse want to see more quest man
we want to get more quset
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doing secret discoveries and quests On my latest playthourgh I didn't have to worry about exp until SE
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MH barely have its own quest beside DND questline
frozen turtle
SE has a whopping like 2.3 quests
uneven basin
wse want to see more quest man
I agree with that
uneven basin
MH being de DND place is a bit.... eh
frozen turtle
Oh wait there is that
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SE geniunbely feel like side content
but it really not
it literally is not
but it feel like it
frozen turtle
Needs just another quest or so at least
uneven basin
SE geniunbely feel like side content
Does it ? it's the only thing you can do in that level range corkus is side content ok but no SE it's just small / empty
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Does it ? it's the only thing you can do in that level range corkus is side cont...
barely any content
frozen turtle
So there is like 2 quests in SE, and 1 where only part of it is entering
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it feel like a DLC
uneven basin
that's true but that doesn't mean it's on the side
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it give off that DLC vibe
uneven basin
I'm not comparinng SE to corkus it's better than that xd
hybrid gazelle
yeah no that insulting to Corkus
because at least Corkus got excuse to make at like
dinosaur age
SE is 1.19
uneven basin
SE used the be the endgame that's not side content
hybrid gazelle
I think we all know that
but we talking about the vibe it give
and it certainly fee like side content due to the lack of content with in it
uneven basin
okay alright I ubnderstand the point
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it cerainly feel like
5 dollars DLC
that you buy and experience the expansion
amybe get some exclusive content from DLC
and that it
what I am saying is
it feel like minecraft dungeon DLC
it like that lOL
frozen turtle
Fruma has spoiled the rest of the game
I just want SE to have like 1-2 more quality quests
hybrid gazelle
oh wait I forgot
half of the quest in that update is dedicate to
NONE SE QUESTS
dude I am so happy this is not the case for Fruma
uneven basin
fuck it's the update that got us order of the grook ? over any SE quest ?????
hybrid gazelle
I love how recover the past does not even matter because it got rework AGAIN
in Lootrun update
hybrid gazelle
the thing is that damage already been done
they cant add too many SE quest or else the progression feel odd
so I just want
Remove olmic runes
like remove it
add new quest
and TNA quest
that pretty much it
I think SE potentially could be intresting to have quest about
becuase it potentailyl can challenge writers to be unique with the quest premise
frozen turtle
Well yeah thatās what I want kinda
hybrid gazelle
rather than relying on NPC to start the quest
frozen turtle
Replace olmic rune with a cooler quest there
hybrid gazelle
it would make quest in SE a lot more intresting and have its own feel
frozen turtle
Then add a TNA one in that void valley/toxic kinda area
hybrid gazelle
in good future, AJB/AJF should be 3 parts storyline that fresh out each regions more
but it's what it is
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A journey beyond
A journey little bit
A journey further
like whatever
fuck them quest name
I would love SE revisit update but like that not happening
geniunely SE would be so cool with new mobs design
because fruma mobs defintiely feel like they get the hang of mobs design now
so having SE being redone with its mob roster would be nice
not SE being redone
I mean its mob roster
but hold the longleg gripper
that is actually what true iconic look like
frozen turtle
SE with frumas quality will be legendary
just wynn in general with Frumas quality
see this is the issue with making quality content, ppl are gonna want more
just delete fruma
hybrid gazelle
I dont think we see any provicne up to Fruma level
like at lest I just want SE quests redone
and maybe its mobs
that like all I want LOL
from SE
silent hazel
Yo whats this aboit potatoes and identifiers
hybrid gazelle
cant an identifier love potatoes
silent hazel
Is there any reason or just for the fun
silent hazel
how about your mind your own buisness
no i need to know
what if i try to identify a potato
What happens then
silent hazel
Do ifentifiers eat the potato or use them for energy
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The thinker
silent hazel
I need this answered
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Do ifentifiers eat the potato or use them for energy
Well eating a potato is using it for energy technically, innit
frozen turtle
i think they store them dont they
maybe they're saving them to use for an energy sourc
e
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Where do they grow their potatoes š¤
full jackal
orph should have been a biblically accurate angel fox
full jackal
I was honestly thinking about the political system of wynn and i came up with this for ragni, with all the kingdoms for a sorta hre type federation but being seperate entities too
anyways hereās the thing i though up for ragni sorry for the small text
actually wait this is unreadable
uhh actually i think iāll just type it oit
dim plover
I am going to make an Item Identifier that hates potatoes
Heās going to be the final boss of Bloomi
(Heās the villain because he crashed his ship into Bloomi ten years ago and found to his horror that like two thirds of the islandās flora is some variant species of potato)
slender copper
The player is not referred to as light's scion, Lari is... since Two said that light's scion didn't come out of the realm of light with us.
split night
idk why but i keep headcanon Two to be a defected dark scion
she look dangerously like one
full jackal
Iām studying feudalism to write a doc about how I think the society of Western Wynn works
Boy it is confusing as hell
History classes only begin next year so Iām pretty much learning by myself T_T
full jackal
idk why but i keep headcanon Two to be a defected dark scion
True she looks creepy as hell
Donāt let @untold warren know I donāt even wanna know what they have to say about this
What
split night
xd
full jackal
What was that
full jackal
Oh Iām not allowed to say f[[]]ck you
split night
i hate your guts but i like you so
full jackal
hi 8r, [[frick]] you, how are you doing
Bad really bad Iām writing lore about wynn instead of doing the ever-growing pile of work I decided not to do until today for some reason
Really really really bad actually
split night
relatable
full jackal
Extremely terribly bad (but Iām not gonna do anything about it Iām just gonna study for a subject that only starts next year)
untold warren
mystic fulcrum
this is an olm? since it has black skeleton
hybrid gazelle
so far probably IDK lmao
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hybrid gazelle
dont think anyone know for that matter
dim plover
this is an olm? since it has black skeleton
Most likely
hybrid gazelle
but like yeah et's just say it's an olm unless canon say other wise
dim plover
They've kinda made a point to tell us that Olms specifically have black skeletons
neon imp
this is an olm? since it has black skeleton
socrates
mystic fulcrum
probably bob
hybrid gazelle
black fucking skeleton,,,
dim plover
My theory is that they originate from Dern
TNA's a Dern native so there's a possibility
mystic fulcrum
but why it doesn't kill or try to kill player? it's from dern so they got to be evil
dim plover
but why it doesn't kill or try to kill player? it's from dern so they got to be ...
it's from dern so they got to be evil
What
Dern's the Realm of Darkness not the Realm of Evil
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dim plover
Kantry are from Dern and they don't kill us either
full jackal
Wait, can yāall do me a favour rn
dim plover
The wild ones don't though
Unless they're like protecting the sick one
full jackal
And list every song in Wynncraft OST added in Fruma
Thanks
Like I donāt think their official channel has all of them
And wiki doesnāt list them
And my laptop is broken so I canāt check myself
dim plover
Better off asking here
https://discord.com/channels/143852930036924417/1318002484786237460
warm flicker
The wild ones don't though
Unless they're like protecting the sick one
for whatever reason the kantry have the most in depth lore and research out of anything in the SE, i think its all on the wiki
full jackal
Ah okay thanks!
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Btw are fairies from rol?
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Well well well
dim plover
Wild conversation
split night
I can't believe Trashie would say something like this
full jackal
Why would anyone say this
split night
Why did Chara made Trashie say this
mossy badge
I can't believe Trashie would say something like this
I can easily believe Trashie would say something like this
full jackal
Why literally out of all the possible things that you can say
This is what you choose
split night
I can easily believe Trashie would say something like this
Honestly I can see it from your angle
Why did Trashie made Chara say this
full jackal
Why did Chara made Trashie say this
Why would Gaster make the Player make the Vessel from Deltarune make Kris make the Soul make Trashie make the in-game player say this
Is they evil?
full jackal
Why did Trashie made Chara say this
Shit that is literally my joke but funnier
full jackal
Some questions arenāt meant to have answers
okay uhh hereās my WIP for the thing Iām doing ig
Kingdom of Emeshev (29AP - )
Description:
The kingdom of Emeshev (pronounced /āÉmÉŹev/) is one of the major kingdoms of Wynn. Part of the Wynnic alliance spanning from Ternavres to Troms, it rules over most of North-Western Wynn, as well being home to the fortress city of Ragni. Throughout the years, it has been repeatedly threatened and battered by the forces of corruption, but always pulls through in the end. It is undoubtedly one of the most powerful nations in Wynn, second only to the Central Federation or the Tromsian Empire.
The ruling bloodline of Emeshev has remained the same for the almost 1000 years since it received its independence from Fruma, being ruled by the Emeshev dynasty, who have a reputation for being noble and caring leaders. However, recently they have been threatened by the scheming dukes and disloyal nobles who rule over the lands. This, along with the reawakening of the Constructs, isolation from Central Wynn and the mysterious disappearance of their hero, Bob, has thrown the kingdom into disarray.
Dynasty:
Founded by: Omera Emeshev (3AP - 48AP)
Currently ruled by: Elemick Emeshev (966AP - )
Total rulers: 23
Average rule length: 42.2 years
Population:
Total: 6,183,992
Human Population: 6,002,104 (97.1%)
Villager Population: 181, 229(2.8%)
Olm Population: 651 (0.1%)
Ragni: 394,110 (6.3%)
Gemine Village: 38,193 (0.6%)
Total Urban Population (Population living in Cities with >10,000 residents): 1,381,852 (22.3%)
Total Rural Population: 4,802,140 (77.7%)
Emerald Trail (not including Ragni): 2,184,821 (35.4%)
Lesser Kastalesh Range: 59,202 (1%)
Farmerās Valley: 3,288,001 (53.1%)
Little Wood: 257,858 (4.2%)
Demographics:
Bovemist: 5,002,857 (80.9%)
Vanguardist: 290,028 (4.6%)
Servants of Light: 56,799 (0.9%)
Cult of Khronas: 12,857 (0.2%)
Agnostic: 582,038 (9.4%)
Atheist: 188,271 (3%)
Others: 51,142 (0.8%)
Life expectancy: 27.8 years
Life expectancy excluding infant mortality: 49.2 years
Median age: 20.8 years
Peasants: 5,318,233 (86%)
Nobles: 223,339 (3.6%)
Military:
Fort Kastilisheb: 9,888 (0.2%)5
Fort Robert: 13,857 (0.2%)
Military-aged Population (18-45): 3,170,180 (51.2%)
Mobilized Population: 129,655 (2.1%)
split night
where did you get all these statistic
full jackal
My ass
split night
full jackal
okay in all seriousness
Estimation
Based on irl statistics in medieval Europe
And general vibes
split night
are you studying to be a politician
full jackal
Iād say there are about ~5m people in western wynn
full jackal
are you studying to be a politician
I hate politicians
split night
thanks boat, i thought you were gonna run a country to the ground
considering your other idea of grouping detlas and ragni military to deal with the corruption
full jackal
I hate politicians
With the exceptions of like maybe 5 or 6
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mystic fulcrum
There's no way all cities combine can house tens of thousand of people, there are like 20 house per city
split night
https://tenor.com/view/wynncraft-violet-knight-wynn-fruma-update-gif-12928055234...
Alex cave mentioned
full jackal
thanks boat, i thought you were gonna run a country to the ground
I am literally in junior secondary I have zero credentials to be a politician
full jackal
considering your other idea of grouping detlas and ragni military to deal with t...
They work in conjunction
But theyāre separate
split night
I am literally in junior secondary I have zero credentials to be a politician
I mean, a lot of politician doesn't even know what vaccine is so i doubt the requirement would be that high
full jackal
lmao true actually
U know what maybe I do have credentials to become a politician
Iāll be applying to become part of the Trump admin tomorrow
Iām sure Iāll fit right in
split night
You have to be in his [[Hyperlink blocked]] friends circle though
im pretty sure you don't want to have the requirement for that
full jackal
I think Iād be in the requirements just not in a way thatās very beneficial to myself
split night
the hyperlink blocked in the question was p-word
frozen turtle
Wild conversation
bro what was the conclusion?? is it fat or muscle i need to know
full jackal
Idk
Also hot take
*no pun intended
And yāall are too scared to admit it
But ngl majin is kinda hot
Aaand cue everyone immediately staring at their screens in disgust
frozen turtle
Aaand cue everyone immediately staring at their screens in disgust
yk, its not a lari simping opinion so i approve
full jackal
Yea i think i should shut up now
Forever
Yea Iām just kidding I will never shut up
Why does rodoroc look like that though
Like where did they even get the stone
Thereās no stone in Molten Heights
Did they trade it with Canyon of the Lost people?
Itās kinda weird to build your entire city out of materials you have to trade for
And how does their governmental system even work? Like thereās a king, so presumably Axel is the heir to the throne
But other than that how does it work
Like does the king manage everything
Does he have jurisdiction over the rest of the heights?
How do the dwarves just not go to the upper heights and kill those doguns
split night
Aaand cue everyone immediately staring at their screens in disgust
Personally I find Lari, Two and Seaskipper Captain kinda attractive
full jackal
Personally I find Lari, Two and Seaskipper Captain kinda attractive
Sea skipper captain X_X
Yea actually never mind i think youāre worse
No offence
full jackal
Wait me too lmao
split night
or pansexual if you're unfamiliar with the term
full jackal
Yea literally same
slender copper
But ngl majin is kinda hot
He was design to be as stylish as a peacock, so it's a part of his design. But saying it aloud? nah, bro does not deserve that comment .
split night
Seaskipper Captain is like very goated
he give you money when he found treasure
and like share you stories
I love him
full jackal
Okay but like as i was saying why donāt they just go to the upper molten heights
full jackal
I love him
Okay fair i guess
Honestly this is just my theory
They don
āT actually want the doguns dead
We can see that honestly Rodoroc is kinda terrible
primal anchor
full jackal
Itās ugly, ruled by a monarchy, they have slums were poor people have to live
And like eventually the people are gonna be like āWhy do we even need this stupid king anywaysā
So they need someone to blame it on
And if the doguns are dead how will they blame problems on the doguns
So they need them alive for a scapegoat as well as to boost morale through executions
split night
It's more nuanced than that
prior to the king's propaganda
some of the dwarves actually fight for the Doguns
It's just that after the propaganda where they call Doguns the devil, the population of the dwarves' opinion just kinda shift
full jackal
Yea thatās the thing
split night
by some I have to assume a lot of the dwarves fight for the Doguns before the propaganda to a point the propaganda have to be made
full jackal
When thereās literal devils running about you can blame all the problems on them
full jackal
by some I have to assume a lot of the dwarves fight for the Doguns before the pr...
Yea thatās during the war
I mean like maybe after the war the dwarves need to keep some of the doguns alive
But yea this is kinda a crackpot theory just to explain why they just donāt kill all the doguns
Even though thereās literal elevators going straight to dogun settlements
full jackal
Really? I must be misremembering then lmao
Itās kinda weird that the dwarves donāt go to the upper heights though
Like there are some poachers
I guess maybe the upper heights are just kinda barren
No resources, no food, noā¦
Actually what do the dwarves even eat?
Like do they eat rocks? Iām pretty sure they eat rocks
split night
they are made of literal earth and lava so it's safe to assume that their metabolism require rock yeah
i mean our metamolism require rocks too, just not literal rock
full jackal
Fantasy races are honestly kinda weird
Like the fact that Dwarves, Elves, Villagers, Humans and Olm exist
Imply that thereās been enough time for them to evolve separately
And become different species
Unless they were created by Orphion or Saph
split night
It's just Gavel
full jackal
Yea but Villagers and Humans are so similar
split night
Gavel update was weird and unfinished in general
full jackal
So itās likely that they had a common ancestor
split night
they had a child together so yes
full jackal
Yea like they can have children
whole river
Evolution isnāt required for a fantasy race, theyāre allowed to have whackier origins
split night
they are so biologically similar that they can have children that CAN grow up
full jackal
So theyāre similar enough to reproduce but not similar enough to be the same species
split night
So theyāre similar enough to reproduce but not similar enough to be the same spe...
this just make them more racist
xd
full jackal
this just make them more racist
True lmao
full jackal
Evolution isnāt required for a fantasy race, theyāre allowed to have whackier or...
I guess
But villagers donāt even have origins
Like I can see humans being descendants of the Olm
Or vice Veraās
With like maybe the Olm being humans affected by darkness
So thatās why they look like that
But I cannot see a single reason why Avos would exist
How can they even lift themselves up??
cedar kernel
WTP raid gang being Player, Sui, Tasim, and Zeph, is like 3 hydrogen bombs and 1 normal bomb
full jackal
cedar kernel
Is sui just better theorick
full jackal
Is sui just better theorick
Yes
Like Sui could absolutely beat Theorick
Theorick was a fun fight though
Like assuming the fight in AHC was canon Theorick strength (letās say we transposed the IceBar Theorick fight patterns to AHC)
split night
Is sui just better theorick
No not really they are both manaweaver but Theorick are much more experience therefore stronger
current Sui might not be stronger but she can train to be as strong
split night
you guys gotta take into account that she's a homecook prior to going to Timisca
full jackal
I mean probably almost as strong asā¦ uhhh
Wynncraft has weird reference
I think if we wanted to know weād have to scale every enemy
I mean weāre definitely stronger than Theorick since we already beat him in AHC
Idk Iām not that sure how good Sui is
Definitely stronger than the rest of the leaves
And probably syndra too
ā¦. Actually this is a tough question
cedar kernel
I mean weāre definitely stronger than Theorick since we already beat him in AHC
We beat them in ice barrows too
full jackal
Theorick was probably weakened in ice barrows
Because he was trapped with corruption for 500 years
full jackal
Idk wynncraft level scaling is weird
cedar kernel
I love how the only things updated for ice barrows from when I last played were the entrance and the boss
sick quest
Idk wynncraft level scaling is weird
Honestly I think its a somewhat safe bet to ignore Wynn Level Scaling from a worldbuilding PoV
split night
Sui is fine? but like she ain't gonna beat Theorick assuming they are both manaweaver
like, one of them trained hard and fought the corruption and the other is a homecook before going to timisca
cedar kernel
Everything else is still the same
sick quest
And just use what the characters talk abt
weary sigil
imo sui is the most powerful individual in wynncraft apart from orphion and saphanis
on the condition she actually learns to control her power
split night
Guys when did Sui gain demigod status for yall š
she's just a manaweaver like the rest of the twains
sick quest
Guys when did Sui gain demigod status for yall š
she's just a manaweaver like ...
She is stronger than a demigod fym
Shes a glorious queen
Solos anathema fr
weary sigil
were the twains manaweavers?
split night
were the twains manaweavers?
in the cutscene show that yeah and in the library
they use magic without a focus
like very fluently
sick quest
The Twain quests are so fun fr
tribal dagger
Personally I find Lari, Two and Seaskipper Captain kinda attractive
omg another person who finds seaskipper cool. i dont find him attractive per se but one of my favourite npc's
tropic locust
sui < player
sick quest
omg another person who finds seaskipper cool. i dont find him attractive per se ...
Well yes the seaskipper beast is the second strong force in all of Wynncraft (the bovemist capitalism beast that lives on the moon is still stronger)
split night
omg another person who finds seaskipper cool. i dont find him attractive per se ...
I'm just being funny xd
I really like Seaskipper as a friend though
he's one hell of a good friend I gotta say
full jackal
Okay like Iād say Witherhead is like a 100, Arkadius is a 142, Charon is a 182, Garoth is a 172, Hashr is a 135, Theorick is a 216, Aegis is a 182, Mel is a 158, Reynauld is a 170, Pre-Fruma tasim is a 203, Linton is a 120, Takan is a 130, Picard is a 25, Kymer is a 134, Redbeard is like maybe a 149, Grootslang Wyrm is like 206, Parasite is like a 368, Orphion (weakened) is like a 452, THE EYE is like a 388, Antikythera is like maybe 175, Lari is maybe uhh 295, Zhiraok is maybe 263, Bakāal is ig 371, Soosu is maybe 278, Gikyo is maybe like a 290, Majin is 308, Post-Fruma Tasim is like maybe i guess uhh 320 and Queen is maybe 400. OH and uhh TCC is like 357 and TNA is 280. In that case maybe anathema is like 550 and Sui is like maybe 190.
SOURCE: I MADE IT THE FUCK UP YOU CANāT DEBATE ME ON THIS
I am the central authority on this and the source of the authority is me
hybrid gazelle
omg another person who finds seaskipper cool. i dont find him attractive per se ...
hate to breka it to you but it like
split night
I'm not even gonna read that I don't like p*werscaling
tropic locust
we see tasim in recover the past use magic without a focus. does that make him a manaweaver? I think being a manaweaver is more than just not needing a focus
split night
it not that rare
everyone love Seaskipper Captain
hybrid gazelle
it just nobody really draw seaskipper fanart cause
- he is a villager
- there nothing wrong and that a problem
full jackal
it just nobody really draw seaskipper fanart cause
Because if you do that youād get put on the CIA watchlist
hybrid gazelle
yah sure I guess
split night
His character is very well placed in the place of a person who get you to somewhere
like a travel companion so
I like him because he is a good friend and offer company
xd
hybrid gazelle
saskipper is that one character who everyone like
full jackal
As you should if you actually draw that stuff i hope i see you in hell (This is a joke i swear)
hybrid gazelle
but since there he has barely any interaction
or he has something wrong with him
he is like okay Iguess
a showcase to character without flaw just make them not memorable
whic is fine because he is again a fast travel mechanic
full jackal
Honestly I think the problem is that he doesnāt have any character flaws
Heās just a chill guy
Like letās be so fr rn a massive reason why people in this community latch onto characters is because theyāre angsty and flawed people
Cuz that shit is relatable
Like just for example Lari
split night
I mean for a travel companion, I like his character, I LOVE his interaction with Tasim
really good
He do share mini lore nitbits like
he was given a boat after his father die
full jackal
But like honestly who am I to judge
full jackal
I mean for a travel companion, I like his character, I LOVE his interaction with...
Yea but like fr though that was really good character writing
split night
He's a guy who's here for everyone really, and that's fine for a fast travel character
full jackal
Yea
Actually speaking of fast travel
Does anyone actually use nexus fast travel?
Cuz I pretty much only use TP scrolls
full jackal
I mean the fast travel points are just really hard to find ngl
limber swan
I mean the fast travel points are just really hard to find ngl
its also useless
full jackal
imo sui is the most powerful individual in wynncraft apart from orphion and saph...
What
Okay i read that really late
But Sui is NOT stronger than anathema
Even with all the training in the world
hell, weāre not even as good as anathema
We canonically needed Tasim, Zeph and Sui to help us out
And anathema had shared her power with the sovereigns
Like at max without severely changing her form
Maybe about Bakāal level
whole river
sheās not even sovereign level and people are glazing her as the next Bob š
full jackal
I mean like maybe she could beat Charon
And she could probably beat Syndra
But syndra couldnāt even beat Zhiraok we had to do 99% of the work on that fight T_T
full jackal
sheās not even sovereign level and people are glazing her as the next Bob š
She COULD reach bob levels
nocturne nimbus
Everyone loves the Seaskipper
full jackal
But letās be real thatās gonna be after lot longer
full jackal
Everyone loves the Seaskipper
Peppa pig loves seaskipper. EVERYONE Loves seaskipper
nocturne nimbus
I guess calling him the Seaskipper is kind of offensive
full jackal
EĢµĢ½ĶĢĶvĢ¶ĢĶĢĶeĢøĶĶĶĶrĢ·ĢĢĢ¾ĶyĢµĢĢĢĶoĢøĢĶĢĶne lĶĶoĢøĢĢ®ĢĢ±vĢ¶ĶĢĢĶeĢµĢĶĢĢsĢøĢĢĢĶ seĢĢĶĢaĢ“ĢĶĢskĶiĢ“ĢĢĢĢpĢøĶĶĶĢpĢøerĢ.ĢøĶĢĢĢ
nocturne nimbus
Imagine calling the manager at McDonalds McDonalds
whole river
She ***COULD*** reach bob levels
We donāt really even know that, Theorick was similar and Bob still destroys him
full jackal
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It doesnāt render properly goddamnit
full jackal
We donāt really even know that, Theorick was similar and Bob still destroys him
Keyword could
hybrid gazelle
Bob is not Twain family member so Theorick would lose because his Sibling Beater passive would not active against BOb
nocturne nimbus
When does Bob destroy Theorick
whole river
Bob is not Twain family member so Theorick would lose because his Sibling Beater...
Real!
whole river
When does Bob destroy Theorick
You read that wrong
split night
Cuz I pretty much only use TP scrolls
I literally q for raid and beat Orphion to get there
I'm just that lazy
whole river
Keyword could
Potential woman Sui
full jackal
Potential woman Sui
ā¦
AGHAHFHAHFHAFHAHFAHFHAFH
literally dies
Look at what youāve done
Think about what you say before you say it
Nonono
I know what youāre doing rn
Youāre scrolling up the message history
About what i said about majin
Stop that
weary sigil
What
forgot to add in anathema mb
sui is the strongest non-god individual alive in wynncraft rn
full jackal
Literally us?
Also Qira??
Qira was wearing an extremely powerful inhibitor when she fought us
split night
sui is the strongest non-god individual alive in wynncraft rn
this is straght up glazing
full jackal
Qira without inhibitor would beat her ass back to the slums
hybrid gazelle
so powerful yet not be powerful enough to be a completed character with all that chunk of contents missing
THE potential women is both potential in lore and in meta wise
full jackal
sui is the strongest non-god individual alive in wynncraft rn
With the potential to become the strongest invidual in wynncraft alive rn
hybrid gazelle
I am crying
whole river
Also can, also if, never is
full jackal
Do yāall think bob is dead though
hybrid gazelle
Also can, also if, never is
IF I GOT OUT OF THIS HIVE I COOKED!!!!
full jackal
Like is he dead or just imprisoned
hybrid gazelle
full jackal
Qira is like insanely strong
But does nothing?
And has 0 lore relevance?
Like actually why the fuck does she exist
She should not be that strong
Also trashie
bleak tinsel
Do we ever find out who exactly are we playing as during AHC?
Because I've just been redoing it on another class and reliazed that a bunch of NPCs explicitly refer to us as a woman, which kinda makes the "alternate reality player" theory not work
whole river
It is an alternate reality though
full jackal
Do we ever find out who exactly are we playing as during AHC?
Bakāalās peon i think
Or antikytheraās peon
Basically weāre transferred to different bodies i think
slender eagle
^ i think it just varies between each scenario in the quest
in some you're bak'al's peon and in some you're not
bleak tinsel
^ i think it just varies between each scenario in the quest
ah I did not actually pay attention to that, figured we are impersonating one specific person who is an "anti-player"
that would make sense
full jackal
What happened to the sky islands though
Like I know the colossus destroyed the land
And split it into two
But likeā¦ how
That does not make sense
Shouldnāt that just make the islands complete rubble?
Like why do the islands float
Like how did the void islands go 1000m under
whole river
Yeah it wasnāt just a regular slash he cut reality
full jackal
Which split the land into 2
dense python
the space beneath ahmsord isnt just empty space beneath the earth its a rift to the void ig
full jackal
Yeah it wasnāt just a regular slash he cut reality
Andā¦ that somehow makes perfectly rounded and nicely shaped islands in the void and sky islands?
dense python
hey erosion takes its toll and rounds em up i guess
full jackal
I guess wind couldāve eroded i
full jackal
rain still falls down there
So likeā¦ the rain goes through the void rift
And enters the void?
I guess that makes sense
dense python
its just a non euclidean space like
full jackal
So like the name the void kinda implies that itās kinda connected to DERN
dense python
the transition is seamless
full jackal
Wait
dense python
idt the void is connected to dern, if anything i recall the void being at odds with the dernic influence in the silent expanse
full jackal
Imagine if they add a massive rift similar to Post-Apostheosis Beneath the sky islands
dense python
as stated in tna lore
full jackal
I am not well-versed in wynncraft lore it seems X_X
split night
Do we ever find out who exactly are we playing as during AHC?
fake vision the drug dealer gave us for us to realize that dark and light really are the same
it's basically not real, we are an undead in those vision
xd
dim plover
So like the name *the void* kinda implies that itās kinda connected to DERN
connected to DERN
Did you think the void was Dernic because it was light purple or smth
split night
So like the name *the void* kinda implies that itās kinda connected to DERN
Void is canonically the absent of EVERYTHING, not even time or space or spacetime
while Dark is something
Void is true nothingness
full jackal
Ohhh okay
regal spire
How can it be the absence of everything when I found all these cool items in the OV? Check and mate 
bleak tinsel
Ohhh okay
I believe the void is just the space between the different realms, it's literally nothingness, and when the colossus cracked the land, the island sorta just fell down and got stuck there, apparently
it's a fantasy RPG, don't look for physical logic lol
full jackal
I mean yea lmao
Again, Fruma does such a good job at worldbuilding that honestly the rest of Wynn looks really underdeveloped
rustic nexus
Again, Fruma does such a good job at worldbuilding that honestly the rest of Wyn...
because some of it is
AHEM
ANYWAY
rustic nexus
So like the name *the void* kinda implies that itās kinda connected to DERN
the void is an interesting case, we've never really seen it, barely even been in it when passing through void holes
yet there's two areas very close to it that we have been in
the ahmsord void and the blueshift archipelago
they're not the void itself, but more like a border between a realm and the void that surrounds it
ahmsord void being a border zone between the physical plane and the void, and the blueshift archipelago being a border zone between dern and the void
areas between something and nothing
full jackal
Interesting
Honestly if they add like more content to the void or rebuild it
Like I think it has so much potential
But honestly even with the outer void
rustic nexus
ahmsord void could have more stuff happening in it yeah
rustic nexus
mmm
I wish the meaning of the outer void got hinted at better in-game
currently it's just the archaic writing and context clues you have to go through to figure out what it is
mossy badge
Outer void is just so fun
rustic nexus
like I have my theory, but until anything more gets revealed, it's just that
spring kernel
There was going to be more OV stuff but the frume
rustic nexus
sadly the more OV stuff will likely be delayed yet again due to the wastelan
penite distri
full jackal
There was going to be more OV stuff but the frume
WAIT REALLY???
rustic nexus
yea
mossy badge
I wish the meaning of the outer void got hinted at better in-game
I mean isn't it simple?
full jackal
Aghhghgh when I get my laptop back I gotta get the booster thing
spring kernel
I mean not a major expansion or anything
rustic nexus
the CTs behind OV said they wanted to do more
spring kernel
just some small extra stuff
full jackal
Please Iām begging you metaphorically on my hands and knees
rustic nexus
I mean isn't it simple?
what do you think outer void is
mossy badge
+1 new useless gear u can craft! Wow
full jackal
You can delay Fruma wastelands all you like idc
mossy badge
what do you think outer void is
Concentrated void island pieces around colossi part
full jackal
One useless void item pleaseeee
mossy badge
Magic
rustic nexus
partly, sure
full jackal
I think in that case though
Outer void should be expanded vertically
Up
So like it becomes kinda like a spire
With the islands becoming denser as you go up
full jackal
Concentrated void island pieces around colossi part
Makes sense honestly
Maybe the colossi has some sorta magnetic pull
mossy badge
Their body parts must be connected somehow afterall
full jackal
Honestly the colossi doesnāt seem to have like anything beneath its torso
worn garden
ice dragon
mossy badge
ice dragon
Cool
full jackal
Why does molten heights still look like that though
full jackal
Wait itās Sar fix?
mossy badge
Why does molten heights still look like that though
Its not molten heights
full jackal
*sarnfic
mossy badge
Wait itās Sar fix?
Ye
mossy badge
Ocean update in 2040!
worn garden
im looking for a room
full jackal
I despise doing that quest
mossy badge
Ugly as hell
š
full jackal
And also
I hate having to movement spell from mage island to sarnfic
And also why the hell should i pay the guy
full jackal
Why should I have to pay money to do this quest
worn garden
with nothjing in there
tropic locust
what is this place
full jackal
stupid sarnfic
rustic nexus
Outer void should be expanded vertically
I think it already reaches pretty close to the world height
full jackal
Oh right wynncraft has world height limit
rustic nexus
since a lot of the ahms void also goes downwards
but anyway yeah, ahms colossus piecing itself back together
full jackal
Oh but like what do yāall think the Defender of the plains is
rustic nexus
metal as hell
rustic nexus
Oh but like what do yāall think the Defender of the plains is
personally think it's an ancient version of a golem that's been corrupted
mossy badge
Oh but like what do yāall think the Defender of the plains is
Colossi that flew from gavel š¬ļø
rustic nexus
it can be olmic
full jackal
Like wait i think i wrote something about it wait
rustic nexus
it being an ancient construct that resembles what today's golems are doesn't mean it can't be olmic
mossy badge
it being an ancient construct that resembles what today's golems are doesn't mea...
Ye interesting it has a big nose lol
full jackal
Wait maybe the golems were meant to look like the constructs
full jackal
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1399831978072739901/1503258460740128898/i...
Also i drew this while completely forgetting what the defender of the plains looked like
So actually its really inaccurate lmao, ignore the drawing thing
full jackal
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1399831978072739901/1503258460740128898/i...
You know
When you write stuff and read it 1 minute later
It always looks so cool
And it sounds great
And then a few hours later you read it
hasty beacon
People still use cursive?
full jackal
It looks like shit
full jackal
People still use cursive?
Vro
Cursive is objectively faster
And cooler
And it has more aura
hasty beacon
Its annoying to read, and im one of the few people i know that can read it
I find it obnoxious
full jackal
And also the teachers force everyone to use it from 3rd grade onwards until like 6th grade
full jackal
I find it obnoxious
Tfym i can read it easily
full jackal
Tfym i can read it easily
Granted i die inside a little bit whenever i have to read someone elseās cursive handwriting
rustic nexus
probably
full jackal
I mean i can type it out ig
Wait wait
This isnāt related but do you actually write in cursive
Am i like the only one who does that normally
The Constructs
Built by the Olm residing in north-western Wynn, they have laid dormant for millennia ever since the mysterious disappearance of their Masters.
hasty beacon
This isnāt related but do you actually write in cursive
I did like once in third grade
And then never again
full jackal
However, a foolish soldier named Theorick one day was exploring an Olmic ruin when he stumbled across an ancient artifact. Unaware of its power, he clumsily mishandled it, shattering it into a million pieces. This somehow reawakened the constructs from their long slumber.
mossy badge
And then never again
U didn't have to write in cursive through all of school?
full jackal
The constructs now without their masters, wander aimlessly across the land. They view all but the Olm as hostile threats which must be ruthlessly crushed. In some rare cases, corruption has managed to infect their inner workings, turning them into walking super weapons. They are extremely dangerous and must be avoided at all costs.
hasty beacon
U didn't have to write in cursive through all of school?
Nope, idek why its in the curriculum still because modern writing tools dont need it to work well
full jackal
Not long after their awakening, some ingenious scientists from Elkurn would manage to tranquilliser one of the constructs and are currently studying their complicated inner workings, with the goal of creating powerful guardians to fight in the corruption war, lessening Wynnās reliance on Gavel for Golems.
Now, what of Therck? Embarrassed by his mishandling, he discretely stepped down from his position as a knight, no one ever knowing why. Since then, he has rarely been seen by his family and friends, and now does research by himself, trying to fix his grave mistake.
Yea okay thatās basically it yea
full jackal
Nope, idek why its in the curriculum still because modern writing tools dont nee...
Yea Iām not sure why they teach it either
But i subjectively objectively personally empirically think that its better and everyone who doesnāt write in cursive should have to wear the doodoo hat of bad penmanship
hasty beacon
I guess bro
mossy badge
What else should be teached then? I lowk don't know any other writing fonts š„
full jackal
What else should be teached then? I lowk don't know any other writing fonts š„
In terms of English?
The International Phonetic Alphabet
People should have to learn their velar fricatives
mossy badge
Isn't that slower
full jackal
And Epiglottal trills
hasty beacon
What else should be teached then? I lowk don't know any other writing fonts š„
Find your own, cursive is overdone anyway
mossy badge
Fym find ur own š
full jackal
And their aspirated l*bialized velar plosives
mossy badge
I only know of print other than cursive and i dont know how to write in it, also seems slower
hasty beacon
Fym find ur own š
Go into word and pick one at random
Tough luck if you get one of the weird code fonts
full jackal
And they should also have to learn their centralised near-closed back unrounded vowel
lavish knot
This is less of a theory and more of a for fun thing, but if your character is infact a beast of sorts, what would they be?
full jackal
Uhhh
jovial cosmos
So I just got past The Price of ingenuity
mossy badge
This is less of a theory and more of a for fun thing, but if your character is i...
š© š
full jackal
Probably the beast of procrastination because thatās what Iām doing instead of making the goddamn poster itās literally 1:26am
full jackal
(so no spoilers)
Kriselle????
jovial cosmos
Kriselle????
Yes
hasty beacon
This is less of a theory and more of a for fun thing, but if your character is i...
My character is a beastā¦. A āmisterā beastā¦.
split night
me for example
full jackal
alsounrelatedbut
ohmygoshimfinallydonewirhtheboardthingy
andmyspacebarisntworking
full jackal
me for example
Nevermind its working now
yeah like i really wonder
how much overlap is there between silksong deltarune wynncrafy and ultrakill fans
cedar prism
where did Maxie had his wedding?
mossy badge
where did Maxie had his wedding?
It says on the wedding invitation, corkus city palace
mossy badge
Idk, explore it and u might find it but also it might just be a random room u would not think of
full jackal
imma be honest for the longest time i thought maxie was a girl
mossy badge
(Its the big building to the east, connecting the docks to the city)
mossy badge
imma be honest for the longest time i thought maxie was a girl
How lol
full jackal
i donāt think you can actually attemd the wedding though
sick quest
i miss that boy
weary sigil
i donāt think you can actually attemd the wedding though
no you can't
full jackal
honestly he should adopt soosu with rhys or smth
weary sigil
you get the invite after you learn about the wedding
full jackal
sad
weary sigil
honestly he should adopt soosu with rhys or smth
soosu literally being 100 something years older than them:
full jackal
Oh yeah right
hybrid gazelle
Soosu is not a child anymore
She is not even a child when rose to sovereign power
She is a young adult when she rise up to that Statius
So yes she grown ass woman who just happen to be a bit short
And most of her childish personality is just her coping mechanism
signal bough
I would not agree
full jackal
i mean like no tho
mossy badge
I would not agree
No1 agrees lol
full jackal
if pretty sire they retain their appearence from when they became sovereign
mossy badge
I lowk bet on lexnt "?" msg
full jackal
soosu looks like 10
full jackal
No1 agrees lol
whos no1
hybrid gazelle
How is she 10 years old??
signal bough
her personal problems, and motivation for wanting to no longer be a sovereign and betraying the queen, appear to stem from her being stuck in an arrested state of being a child
full jackal
yea i agree
full jackal
How is she 10 years old??
she looks 10
and like she acts sorta like a grown woman bur also a child at heart too
mossy badge
yea i agree
Wait so are u agreeing with trashie or chickeness?
full jackal
i mean