#📚lore_discussion

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rustic nexus
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there's like 3 related to that scene lol

full jackal
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:0

rustic nexus
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that smug one, and 2 for the animation

hybrid gazelle
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yeah trhat what it meant to be lol

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but since like

full jackal
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okay but something that pissed me off that shouldn’t really

hybrid gazelle
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festival of hero is not only celebration of Bob

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but also Sigfried and Tisuan

rustic nexus
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yeah but I meant like

hybrid gazelle
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so I havem y doubt it actually on Bob's birthday

full jackal
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sui’s outfit doesn’t change in her portrait when she changes into her highlands outfit

rustic nexus
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the festival was planned to coincide with bob's birth

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and on that day it celebrates him more

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but the festival is still celebrating heroes

full jackal
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depending on when the festival started

full jackal
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wait really?

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i did not notice lmao

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i really love her crashout portrait tho

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honestly though the wynncraft soundtrack covers

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just insanely beautiful

rustic nexus
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again, tex is goated

full jackal
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like just as some standouts

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like actually tho i completely agree with you if time valley looked as good as it did in the build damn that’d be legendary

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also what’s happening in the background of famrer’s valley?

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are they like preparing for a new quest or smth

vapid path
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My guess is it’s maltic’s well witch

rustic nexus
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don't point that red clickbait arrow at me

uneven basin
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Interesting question ! In my understanding Since the corrupted are dead bodies possessed by hatred they don't actually come back to life, hence they rot away into skeletons and bones over enough time. So I would assume that the fountain of youth would make extra strong corrupted / more durable one since they'd actually be alive (CoW factory perhaps ?)

rustic nexus
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yeah most likely

full jackal
hybrid gazelle
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having more meat on them would make that much of a difference lOL

uneven basin
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It depends on wether or not the fountain brings the body or the whole person back to life

hybrid gazelle
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I dont think it change that much because in the end you just end up with corrupted

narrow kestrel
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does anathema have diff dialogue everytime

hybrid gazelle
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and like

narrow kestrel
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or is this set

hybrid gazelle
narrow kestrel
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actually, why DID we beat her to death

uneven basin
narrow kestrel
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aside from simping for tasim

hybrid gazelle
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IDK we dont really have evidence of that

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the closet thing is Theorick

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and even then he seems to simply under go process of similar corrupting

uneven basin
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Can we consider what happened to Garoth still canon even if the character isn't anymore ?

narrow kestrel
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why WOULDNT it work actually

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its red

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the potion is red

hybrid gazelle
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he no longer exist

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so he is not cnaon

hybrid gazelle
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do you rreally need peopel to spell out

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why we need to kill

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a fascist

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dicator

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who responsible for mass death and oppression

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upon the billion of people

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and the only thing you can conclude is

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"simping for Tasim"

worldly kindle
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Aside from the fact the fascist is a supernatural force of corruption, she's also a fascist

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her whole realm is pvp enabled, that should tell you the amount of awfulness

narrow kestrel
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thats the reason why the player came back initially

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its only after meeting the leaves that we decided the entire palace had to go

hybrid gazelle
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I mean yeah that intital reason that we come for Tasim

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and then our goal change

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because again

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we met the leaves

hasty spoke
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Hmm today I will look at "lore discussion"

narrow kestrel
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i have all 5 runes

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its not opening.

gloomy idol
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Cuz its not added

narrow kestrel
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amazing

upper dust
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I had the same thing 😔
one day, perhaps

uneven basin
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We should have a pinned for frequently asked questions with the anathema gdoc dialogue and everything 😭

rustic nexus
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yup

mossy badge
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...or the dialogue should be on wiki and ppl just look on the wiki 🤯

uneven basin
primal anchor
rustic nexus
uneven basin
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There's only a billion combinations after all saltroll

exotic bough
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right now it is currently bigger than the page for ajh

rustic nexus
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yeah like

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again, even just the postraid dialogue on its own

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would be the longest wiki page

regal spire
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They should have a link in the wiki leading to another, bigger wiki page, which is sorted by varying sizes of dialogue trees, their paths, each one categorized into another wiki page link

elfin dew
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Why does Tasim aura farm in the trailer against the queen ?

Has he been mind twisted before we arrive in Fruma ? I don't understand

shut mist
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Doesent actually happen

brittle mirage
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did you have fun fighting 3 bosses

narrow kestrel
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majin bugged out

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was scared the other two would bug out as well so i had @split night carry me back me up

brittle mirage
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oh hey weird bugs also happened before the majin fight

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it teleported me out of the arena

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after the cutscene

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a few times

split night
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lexnt did say this i remember

regal spire
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I’d have liked to see what it was like for Tasim to be in our place

narrow kestrel
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im still mad people here tricked me into rushing for fruma for the tasim confession scene

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💢

regal spire
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Irate much? saltroll

split night
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it's full of nuances

narrow kestrel
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wait wrong black skull

uneven basin
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Imagine if bringing special items to black sans gave us other ahc scenarios

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Imagine the time it'd take CT to code that too

narrow kestrel
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theres no greater good here

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😭

mossy widget
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who did what for fun 😭

narrow kestrel
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she just didnt wanna let go right

mossy widget
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the queen?

narrow kestrel
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yes

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mf giving me 5 le on MAIN quest

mossy widget
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have you finished fruma

narrow kestrel
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yes

mossy widget
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she did not do it for fun LOL

regal spire
mossy widget
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it literally was for the greater good now that shes gone orphion and dern beast r gonna pull up bro its so over

narrow kestrel
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she could have stopped being..oppressive any time

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😭

mossy widget
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true

hallow flame
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I just realized that levels are diegetic

narrow kestrel
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genuinely she just wanted fruma under her control

regal spire
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Orphion seems so helpless, though. He has been weakened for so long; surely he will go down easily

narrow kestrel
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because it was "the only thing that belonged to her"

narrow kestrel
regal spire
narrow kestrel
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i dont think they can come up of anything that will lead to us being able to 1v1 whatever the fuck is in dern

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😭

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unless they bring in the goodest boy from ROL

regal spire
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I’ll be fine. Couple raid buffs and I’ll solo

narrow kestrel
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honestly i wish they didnt kill her off

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😭

regal spire
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Who, Lara bar?

narrow kestrel
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queenie

regal spire
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Oh, right

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Yeah, I’m gonna miss her

narrow kestrel
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she DID mention that it can always happen again

regal spire
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But, technically, she isn’t dead. She might reform like

narrow kestrel
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so

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🤷‍♂️

narrow kestrel
regal spire
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The next Queenie will be nice like

narrow kestrel
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even if it DOES form a consciousness/identity again in the near future

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no guarantee on it being nice

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unless we spawncamp her and just train her

regal spire
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There’s a likely chance that it won’t have direct memories of the events, but it will have the perspective

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Like muscle memory

brittle mirage
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the new fruma questline and lore added so much more depth to wynncraft

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like i didnt really think much on the message of wynn and thought its just about light vs dark good vs bad type shit

regal spire
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Dw, it’s still good vs bad, but it’s got more layers like

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Me=good
Everyone else=bad like

pine flower
exotic bough
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<@&268142859327242242>

pine flower
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🙏

young dock
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Mr Legendary!!!!!!!!

terse flame
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NO NO NO NO

split verge
exotic bough
mellow garnet
pine flower
terse flame
young dock
pine flower
narrow kestrel
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has the music from The Missing Piece been uploaded on yt yet

pine flower
muted crypt
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@brisk elk WE love two

brisk elk
hybrid gazelle
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wtf you meannn

hybrid gazelle
# muted crypt

This is not even fuel with hate,

Like why are you expecting someone with title of spymaster to throw hands

brisk elk
brisk elk
hybrid gazelle
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Because that not what they meant to do?

brisk elk
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we're the enemy

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they were ordered to capture us on sight

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two too passive

hybrid gazelle
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Consider the apotheosis likely the only time we ever can remove her from the board

hybrid gazelle
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So one way or another get rid of you also a risk to the future

brisk elk
hybrid gazelle
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It is

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It very much is in Fruma Tory

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Consider how political the goddam story is

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Because you are freedom fighter fighting a goddam fascist empire

brisk elk
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ofc its political but to some extent u gotta stop thinkin bout that and realize what the queen tried to do from the very beginning

hybrid gazelle
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No you still gotta take into consideration

brisk elk
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she was a necessary evil

brisk elk
hybrid gazelle
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What does roughwork work condition a necessery evil in war of the realm plan?

brisk elk
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who cares about fascism if everyone's dead

hybrid gazelle
dry aspen
# hybrid gazelle She literally a fascist dictator

queen is not fascist necessarily, it's a beans and legumes type thing. all beans are legumes but not all legumes are beans. not all dictators are fascists but all fascists are dictators. Her Majesty is a standard monarchical dictator rather than a fascist one as she does not try to rewrite the basic rules of their lives and reality, she operates in reality and does not engineer herself as a deity or all powerful person, but also has a police state.

hybrid gazelle
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Just because she share the same goal does not mean she should be an alley

brisk elk
hybrid gazelle
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Ok

brisk elk
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of course its not right but think of the bigger picture

hybrid gazelle
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So whar does it do

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Like what does the working condition in roughwork contribute for war of the realm

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What does it do for bigger picture

dry aspen
dry aspen
hybrid gazelle
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Corruption is far from fruma concern due to Wynn as meat shield

brisk elk
hybrid gazelle
hybrid gazelle
brisk elk
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i think its obvious that it wouldnt stop at wynn

dry aspen
brisk elk
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the only reason its staying in wynn is BECAUSE of the queen

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probably

hybrid gazelle
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And other province do still living without mass production to the scale of Fruma so surely this kind of environment is uncalled for

dry aspen
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well, they have their own problems too

brisk elk
hybrid gazelle
brisk elk
muted crypt
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lari is saphanis

hybrid gazelle
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Why work condition such as one day break a year

brisk elk
brisk elk
hybrid gazelle
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So like

dry aspen
hybrid gazelle
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Why one day break a year eorking condition

dry aspen
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i think a hard job is the LEAST of their worries

hybrid gazelle
brisk elk
hybrid gazelle
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That is not just hard job, that outright worker abuse

brisk elk
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theres a reason her demands are so high

dry aspen
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the roughworks folks have it EASY compared to every other province

brisk elk
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the population only grows and the world only grows more dangerous too

hybrid gazelle
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She is total fucking control freak

muted crypt
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what we even fighting abt

hybrid gazelle
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Who made the province only for herself and herself only

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It almost like

brisk elk
hybrid gazelle
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The game description

muted crypt
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im trying to read up

hybrid gazelle
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Trying to tell us that

hybrid gazelle
brisk elk
dry aspen
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we never said she was not the villain bro stop crashing out

brisk elk
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queen is bad yes but think about it

dry aspen
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tumblr exodus was a mistake fr fr

brisk elk
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u can see it from a logical standpoint... not a moral one.

young dock
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one chance at life and born in timasca

brisk elk
brisk elk
muted crypt
dry aspen
slim belfry
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I'm just gonna point out
notice that there's almost no old people in the roughworks

brisk elk
muted crypt
muted crypt
signal bough
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the queen could very easily just make Soosu another special sovereign and appoint another person to actually administer the roughworks

dry aspen
young dock
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when you're lowkey an embryo and hear about a golem factory

muted crypt
brisk elk
slim belfry
dry aspen
muted crypt
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proffers relating to roughworks citizens

brisk elk
brisk elk
dry aspen
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almost there tho

dry aspen
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all skills are lvl 95 and above after about 350 hrs total over a few months

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it was actually fun

slim belfry
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I cant see how people can prof I had full xp gear and still getting around 1% xp per node

hybrid gazelle
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Fruma queen is pretty much written to be non rational character which also apply to her decision in her ruling

Many thing in Fruma are optimize into efficient working machine with no regard for citizens not because it would help the war of the realm but simply make Fruma a better empire to the queen’s eyes

To the queen, fruma is her realm. It’s her Realm of War that she actually has full control. She see herself as the empire and it’s nothing without her.

brisk elk
brisk elk
dry aspen
brisk elk
hybrid gazelle
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LMAO

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Did they know

brisk elk
brisk elk
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i hope you get promoted one day trashie because i feel like its just personal atp

dry aspen
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it seems my overall point on her not being a fascist is going over people's heads

brisk elk
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she not a fascist

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see

muted crypt
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the queen is hot

dry aspen
slim belfry
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I'll read it since that was before I joined chat

dry aspen
brisk elk
hybrid gazelle
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Promoted to what

brisk elk
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its okey

muted crypt
hybrid gazelle
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Yeah fair enough

brisk elk
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u dying focus on dat..

muted crypt
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she would want me canonically trust

young dock
muted crypt
brisk elk
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its okey everyone. the queen wants you <-- written by the queen *signed by the queen of fruma

muted crypt
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like bro u died to rex

young dock
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not even rex level

brisk elk
muted crypt
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rex has magic theory is true btw

brisk elk
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i used to be rex number 1 hater

brisk elk
dry aspen
muted crypt
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zeph is air, sui water, mora earth, syndra fire, rex thunder

brisk elk
muted crypt
brisk elk
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her voice was annoying as hell to do tho

brisk elk
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i aint even realize

muted crypt
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but she has enhanced focus

muted crypt
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which imo is through magic

brisk elk
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this makes sense tho

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he like me but if i was earth

muted crypt
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u r earth ur a big rock

brisk elk
muted crypt
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but yea rex says multiple times shes the only one that cant do magic

brisk elk
muted crypt
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it was during the training at the steel feather

brisk elk
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OH YEAH SHE DID

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cuz she was showing off her archery skills and shi and she had no amgic i think yulie commented on that too

slim belfry
# dry aspen

ok reading this she's pretty fascist
she literally killed thousands of her people, fed propaganda about the dangers of "cursed", and does nothing about the people's individual lives themselves and more about the welfare of fruma state itself

muted crypt
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also @brisk elk

muted crypt
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alternate anathema death dialogue

slim belfry
muted crypt
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but hints at us being a realm beast imo

brisk elk
brisk elk
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at least orphion oes

muted crypt
brisk elk
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uh oh!

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wyn go dms i dont wanna interuppt fascism conversation

muted crypt
slim belfry
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you cant see it but apparently can reach out to it

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and hear something too

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and feel

dry aspen
# slim belfry ok reading this she's pretty fascist she literally killed thousands of her peopl...

I see that, sure. I guess that tracks, I just hesitate to just say " hurr durr fascist" like all the other people here do (we all know the ones) and I see that there are more aspects to her character than that. unlike real fascist governments like 1930s italy, under the gentilean form of fascism, Her Majesty is ACTUALLY holding the entire kingdom together almost all on her own because her prodigal children are just basically punching bags for bossfight purposes

slim belfry
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dont see that often

dry aspen
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which is collectist marxist-based but switch race with nationality

slim belfry
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yeah that's what I mean people usually go "a man hiter"

dry aspen
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which is also why i almost compulsively wanted to side with the crown, i find the paralells too fascinating to the real world {that and the leaves suck sorry, Mora is the only likeable one}

slim belfry
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I think I said before I would take Tasim's place but switch sides much sooner

dry aspen
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I am actually workshopping a sort of au story for the main questlines but split the mc into 4 characters. two of the 4 characters will side witht the crown as new sovreigns and the other two will side with the tumblr character oc's i mean leaves of the wind

slim belfry
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as cashtron said seems to be more AU stuff after fruma

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says a lot about how much wynn grew over this update

rich stump
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no spoilers but there have been two ppl now Ive seen in the game with vitiligo, is there a lore reason?

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is this environment like toxic or smth

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Im only 3 quests into fruma so far

slim belfry
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you'll find out more about fruma's other places

hybrid gazelle
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No they just

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They just like that

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Actually where is the seconds

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I know Xao is one

rich stump
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thats really unlucky tho fr

hybrid gazelle
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But what about the second

rich stump
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thats #2

hybrid gazelle
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Oh syndra is one

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Is she?

rich stump
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Ive met like 10 ppl maybe and 2 of them have it?

hybrid gazelle
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Very hard to see

mossy widget
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vitiligo is just a skin condition people happen to have kajkfdhkjf

rich stump
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yes but its often caused by environmental factors

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so for 2 out of 10 people to have it.. I'd start looking into sources

mossy widget
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also i dont think syndra has vitiligo i think thats just how tex shaded the skin

hybrid gazelle
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Idk about this one

hybrid gazelle
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Yeah I thought tjose was just shaded skin

rich stump
hybrid gazelle
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Huh?

mossy widget
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she doesnt

hybrid gazelle
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Like Xao?

slim belfry
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xao is more pronounced

rich stump
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its so similar

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it looks like its just shading but its not

hybrid gazelle
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Uhhh

mossy widget
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no there are other characters you havent met yet with similar skin shading

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xao is the only one with actual vitiligo

rich stump
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oh ok

whole river
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I don’t see it for syndra

rich stump
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weird shading then

hybrid gazelle
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Xao is so funny he appear for 2 quests and he got protrait

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I wonder like

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Do every single npcs gojng to have?

tropic locust
hybrid gazelle
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That Xao

whole river
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They’re gonna skip dullahan portrait and it’s gonna be glorious

hybrid gazelle
tropic locust
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the guy that helps zhiraok?

whole river
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Lmfao

hybrid gazelle
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So they do not to give him different protrait at all

mossy widget
tropic locust
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ah

hybrid gazelle
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Notice how other sovereign has no herald

slender copper
hybrid gazelle
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In alt universe

mossy widget
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majin is too insufferable

hybrid gazelle
slim belfry
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IT'D BE SO GOOD

hybrid gazelle
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They straight up give him 1 protrait

rich stump
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damn its so easy to cheese the syndra fight

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got her stuck behind a tree lol

whole river
rich stump
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Im sorry but this shading makes no sense, I wont die on this hill

hybrid gazelle
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||Bro does not about 5 mins at Syndra’s boiler room||

rich stump
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where is the light coming from

slim belfry
slim belfry
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||the queen would be dead if she was in that room||

hybrid gazelle
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||syndra has small room upscale||

mossy widget
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||doing that in beta was something||

hybrid gazelle
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Huh

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What a strange meme to post that one

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It proabbly just a wind

mossy widget
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wat

rustic nexus
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must've been the wind

sick quest
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Why did I have a dream about sovereigns

ember coyote
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i did it with trapper on archer 1st try...

summer bluff
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There's quite a few portraits in the auburn forest that are shaded as Though they're underneath a tree

frozen turtle
slim belfry
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||smh it's training not execution||

peak stratus
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is there any reason that after defeating the queen the whole citadel is still out to kill you?

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besides for gameplay reasons of the whole area changing, but killing the queen has 0 consequences to the rest of fruma

split night
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gameplay reason

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there are a lot of places in the game where you solved the problem but it still attack you

peak stratus
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and they didnt want to find a way to fix that?

split night
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fix what?

weak apex
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||I have a question about Sovereign Two and the queen. So technically, the queen is the source of all the corruption in the whole entire world of wynn? And Two knew that the queen is actually the big butterfly Anathema (whatever the name is) but never did anything about it?||

peak stratus
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make an actual reason for it, instead of it just being gameplay reasons

split night
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that's the question you're asking Two

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xd

weak apex
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Oh so the queen IS a literal god?

split night
split night
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she's a reflection of hate

weary sigil
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the same way orphion and saphanis are

weak apex
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I never associated her to be in same range with Orphion

weary sigil
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she is lesser

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but still of the same kin

split night
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she's their Hate daughter yes

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she's less strong but still is a god

weak apex
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||Okay, but now is she the source of corruption?||

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In the wynn, the big spikes and things

split night
candid cliff
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I wonder how Fruma would look if it was made in 2015

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It'd be hella funny

split night
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but Anathema don't really intentionally control the corruption

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it's more of a bodily response to the environment

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If she could, it would be weird to have a programm to deal with yourself

candid cliff
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so she's not as strong as she should be

split night
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10 nuke

candid cliff
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Yo wtf toten

weak apex
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?

candid cliff
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My friends named the same

weak apex
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Also if we beat the last palace raid thingy, does the big circle and lightning in the sky disappear?

candid cliff
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pretty unusual name to see

split night
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you close that portal when you beat Anathema

weak apex
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Because I'm starting to get annoyed by it

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Okay good

split night
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there are a bunch of postraid dialogs from Anathema and one interaction with Tasim
they still need to add more for the rest of the characters

weak apex
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Wedding when

weak apex
split night
wise torrent
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Thanks

weary sigil
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damn this dialogue hits hard...

weak apex
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||Is Orphion an ally to us? I understand that the dern beast isn't since all the rumbus, but what about Orphion? It's been so long since I did that quest line i forgot ||

weary sigil
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we're but a tool to orphion

weak apex
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Oh

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I just thought maybe he'll be our friend since we saved him from the parasite:(

weary sigil
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orphions goal is in our best interests, for the moment

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but as soon as light overpowers dark, our interests do not align

weak apex
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I see. Anyway, since anathema was created due to hate of the two sides, is there someone or something that is gonna be or is the reflection of peace/love?

weary sigil
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maybe if there was peace or love

raw badge
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I'm no expert in this good/evil stuff, I do like the lore and how the game really takes the theory of realms and stuff

weak apex
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Honestly shouldn't we be a god? Like we beating them all 😭

weary sigil
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the thing with the war of the realms is that both orphion and saphanis hate each other

weary sigil
raw badge
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We are technically also a sort of antihero even though this isn't a Telltale style game nor is there a "morale system" like what Elder Scrolls has

weak apex
weary sigil
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soosu's blessing is pretty damn powerful

raw badge
weary sigil
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and sui is the first (human) manaweaver in millenia

raw badge
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How did I-

weary sigil
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guys did you not like

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do the quests 😭

weak apex
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Manaweaver as in like she can see the strands?

raw badge
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Three times

weary sigil
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yes

raw badge
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On three classes

weary sigil
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she can see the strands

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and use them

raw badge
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Well I did it on Warrior, Mage and Assassin

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In order that is

weary sigil
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without drawing on her own personal mana

weak apex
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Ohh, well idk I thought there was someone before her to do that 😭

weary sigil
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there was maybe

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She can basically make water from nothing

weak apex
fathom plover
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but it's heavily implied (or outright stated, idr) that she's one of the first in thousands of years

fathom plover
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but she can mold matter at will

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which is, needless to say, very powerful

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weak apex
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She should have molded the queen and buried her 😭

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I forgot her name

weak apex
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Ah right god nvm

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weak apex
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That's Sui you're talking about

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Aye

weak apex
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I talked about Soosu

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Ohhhh

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My bad

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yeah sui is just powerful

weak apex
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Also who's Sovereign One? If there's sovereign two there must be sovereign one right?

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Our character is able to wield multiple choices of powers with classes

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the only case to be made that we are more powerful is that she doesn't fully understand/know how to use her powers

fathom plover
weary sigil
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weary sigil
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iirc canonically we are limited to the single class

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True

weak apex
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But Bakal was from Wynn and he accidentally wandered to the dark realm no?

weak apex
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So nothing for fruma

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To be sovereign

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weak apex
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Also.... Could it be that Two already had the blessings she has even before Anathema came? Because she knew everything already of the queen, so they struct a deal or something

All sovereigns basically struck a deal with the devil right? 😭 Like signed their souls away, except Two?

weak apex
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All I know is that the war of the realms is the result of two realm beasts who hate each other and I suppose it could end in a stalemate for all I know

weak apex
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He was a poor dude who wandered in portal

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Well he's Saphanis' servant anyway

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Oh wait

weak apex
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I think he wandered in as a normal human and got extra mega corrupted and yeah

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That was after he got corrupted

weak apex
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Dern said Bakal i choose you lol

fathom plover
weak apex
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But it wasn't anathema who met him, it was the beast itself no?

fathom plover
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are you talking about the dern beast or anathema's war beast form

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weak apex
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Dern beast, anathema doesn't have connection to bakal i believe

weary sigil
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Dern Beast is Saphanis

fathom plover
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Light Beast is Orphion

weak apex
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Anathema isn't dern beast right?

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weary sigil
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maybe? met with anathema

weak apex
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But we saw him speaking to dern?

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He spoke to Saphanis

weary sigil
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he becomes saphanis's scion afterwards yea

weak apex
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Were orphion and saphanis aware they had a child? Lol

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I think this was due to the two sides clashing

weak apex
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Yeah ik ik, but were they aware of anathema?

fathom plover
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(this is from the post-raid dialogue doc)

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Orphion mentioned "she must be snuffed out" likely mentioning Anathema

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Saphanis has no canonical gender atm

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Ofc Orphion is male

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Anathema like threatened the both of them with the nuclear option or smth

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weak apex
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I also found out that Bak'al had betrayed Anathema somehow, and it could be possible that he might betray Saphanis

vestal rivet
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Orphion is called a he
Anathema a she
Saphanis we don't know yet as it's only ever been referred to by name thus far

weak apex
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Saphanis is called an It I believe

weak apex
dim plover
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Wynncraft’s entire universe is basically this

weak apex
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Plane of influence is what!

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?

dim plover
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Minus goofy one-time pocket dimensions in quests

weak apex
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Light dark and war? Like the realms?

dim plover
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Yeah

fathom plover
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i assume the Realm of Light/War/Dark

weak apex
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Ye

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The Realms of Influence make up the plane

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Our physical world (reality as we know it) make up the Physical Plane

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dim plover
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Void is nothinngness
No things, no reality, no nothing

fathom plover
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I've always wondered if anything lies beyond the mountain ranges of the map, since even Hawaii is bigger than the map (in minecraft scale)

weak apex
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yes in a sense

dim plover
fathom plover
weak apex
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Oh, I just thought of it as flat earth, like that'd the literal end of worlds

fathom plover
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It could probably explain where the wybels and the wocs come from

weak apex
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Light forest is Orphion's, the dark forest is Saphanis' ,
But Silent expanse is definitely from Saphanis', and while writing this i realized orphion has his own world, but why is Saphanis' so far away from dark forest?

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dark forest is the way it is bc of parasite

dim estuary
slender eagle
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parasite saps orphion -> orphion's area of influence in physical plane gets a splotch of Dark

dim estuary
slender eagle
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yea

weak apex
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Oh okay

fathom plover
weak apex
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But parasite, being darkness, has connection to Saphy ?

whole river
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parasite was made by Saphanis

dim estuary
weak apex
whole river
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Two said shes in dern somewhere

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prob captured or doom slayering everywhere

dim estuary
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whole river
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we saw her go there at the end of ROL5

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Well, we'll wait for her, or meet her when we go there after something catastrophic happens prolly

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Never mind I got it, the light and dark forest are Orphion's territory like the silent expanse is Saphanis', i just realized that the big circle with flying skeleton is a portal to the realm of darkness 😭

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Sovereign Majin: "A step back, perhaps, but it could also be a boon in disguise. She could serve as a potential ally for your... whatever, if you could only locate her."
Sovereign Two: "Certainly, she could. This will shift the trajectory of certain shards of possibility... I'll have to dive deeper into the consequences."

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I find it interesting they assume she's not dead off the rip

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I mean we know shes not dead cuz narrative's sake but I guess it further cements how strong the scions are

weak apex
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Two definitely knows she's alive and everything where she is but ain't telling

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nah she just has the Light Bender healing factor lol

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she's going to pull a Saint-14 and in one quest provide what is normally a class-exclusive support buff to everyone
constant Sunflare in one spot

whole river
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cant wait till we get to dern and she's got the thragg-pelt except it's just Anni

vestal rivet
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nah, fool eater hide

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we don't know it's her at first because she has its face over her head as a hat/mask

weak apex
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I found it extremely funny that all the times in fruma when "let's fight together" was said, we were left alone to fight every single time (until the near end) 😭 and the audacity to say they are tired from fighting

vestal rivet
whole river
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i assume its us doing 90% of the work though

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||The other 10% is rex shooting an arrow on tasim queen and some sui watering||

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By the way, I honestly thought, at the time, that Lari got some sort of corruption

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Her eyes changed from yellow (light) to purple (dark) anything on that? @whole river

slender copper
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Like before the light form she takes.

whole river
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I doubt it, she has purple eyes regularly

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late reply oops

weak apex
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I know they changed color at one point

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I'm not sure if it's from purple to yellow or other way around

slender copper
weak apex
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I guess it's opposite

whole river
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I wonder, did bakal ever have a saiyan form, and if so did he ever use it on Bob

weak apex
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I don't think so, he was just a corrupt human that leads armies

slender copper
# weak apex Yeah

Yeah that's her combat light form, purple is just her normal eye color as far as we know.

whole river
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Also, is realm of light the place that we go through the stump to where the raid is? Orphion of light

whole river
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yes

weak apex
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Ok

slender copper
weak apex
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He is for Saphanis, not Anathema ?-?

whole river
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he betrayed Anathema

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but he was anathema's first

weak apex
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Uhuh okay... Then maybe we are darkness's scion to be? Because the way Two showed the source of our power, the void snd darkness

slender copper
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great lore reason

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guys i did the level 116 quest and im a bit confused

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what was the war with the realms, the hand that came out of the mirror, and whats the queens specifc role in regulating it 😭

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overture to dispair

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the queen Is that

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the hand

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she is war

maiden schooner
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oh

slender copper
maiden schooner
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yes

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tldr

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orphion and dern beast fighting created the queen. she is war beast. she is war

maiden schooner
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ok and then how does she keep the balance and stuff?

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that will be explained

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just keep playing LOL

maiden schooner
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oops

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ok

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i thought i missed it

slender copper
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true

maiden schooner
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so is the "was war" explained yet

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Why are most villages not surrounded by a wall?

slender copper
maiden schooner
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oop havent gotten there

untold warren
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well its explained just

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ur not at it yet

whole river
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I mean if they have soldiers strong enough or plentiful enough to hold that shit off, they might as well Garrison it

narrow kestrel
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She mentions that name in post-raid

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yes

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After I insisted on the potion method

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Dunno why it didnt work. Its red liquid.

narrow kestrel
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We are potentially dealing with ANOTHER beast

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once War spawns again

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and this time the mf probably wont even be a conscious being

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Also, speaking of, yall think the Player's soul is going to be important in a future update? (the one in Point of No Return quest)

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The only part we managed to find (and destroy, assuming EO is canonically done after A Journey Further) is the eye

hybrid gazelle
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When was this mention

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It’s not, it’s just implied rn, since we don’t have a set form for them

hybrid gazelle
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Like where does it even implied

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That’s about it

hybrid gazelle
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Oh yhat one

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I though thst more symbolic

regal spire
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It’s difficult for me to say whether or not it is. It certainly feels like it can go both ways

slender flax
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for blossom of hope questline why tf did the 2 sovereigns just let me leave

vestal rivet
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plot armor mostly

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bro just let me go in for a fucking house tour

lavish knot
astral void
# slender flax bro wdym by that

||I mean Two knows that we went to the Silent Expanse and went to the front of the portal. We also went to the ROL. My personal opinion, we experienced so much shit that killing us would be a big loss in information. And Majin doesn't care||

hybrid gazelle
slender flax
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majin taking the player for a house tour is weird though

astral void
hybrid gazelle
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She realize that the shard become u stabilize if you were out of the picture

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Do that why she just decide to let the thing take its own course

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And decide to plan out what is left

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Whatever if the Queen win or yoh win

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Taking you out is a risk to the plan

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She do not understand why

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she hates the queen?

hybrid gazelle
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No

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She does not hate the queen

astral void
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It simply rhat taking yoh out is a risk on its own for the larger picture

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Its gonna be explained next upd

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Two is very much dedicated to the Queen

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basically
if you're not involved
the world is guaranteed to fall to light or dark eventually

hybrid gazelle
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Yeah

vestal rivet
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but with us involved, that stops being certaintly even if she has no fing clue why exactly

astral void
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I'm sure the next update will explain more

hybrid gazelle
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It will

astral void
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Since its about her

hybrid gazelle
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But for now we do have reason to why Two spare us

astral void
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Yes we're basically very important ppl

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Also Majin give us house tour because two need us to be compliant to get necessery info

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Which is what happen in RoL

vestal rivet
lavish knot
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Ahh right

astral void
slender flax
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also is it even a she or a he

astral void
lavish knot
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Did you finish the whole storyline?

hybrid gazelle
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why does majin not gaf lol

vestal rivet
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But two want the meeting to be less violence

astral void
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until the end where she just
doesn't kill you

snow kiln
slender flax
vestal rivet
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that's a pretty major order to ignore I think lol

slender flax
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or does he think he will fail

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He just felt that you'd never be nothing

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Cause ego

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astral void
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Which is more peaceful meeting

hybrid gazelle
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Two want info out of the player

lavish knot
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EoH spoilers if needed
||Two add some sort of tracking on your allies that are in his house||

vestal rivet
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Two wears puffy clothers that conceal form, but also has a thigh window that defeats the point lol

hybrid gazelle
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Two believe that reach violently would not get them an info

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and now i need to turn myself in

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wow this is so weird

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how many plot hole sare there

split night
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plot hole??

hybrid gazelle
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I think

hybrid gazelle
split night
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have you like finish the whole fruma story line yet

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xd

snow kiln
astral void
hybrid gazelle
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They literally explain it in the quest

slender flax
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also what does "didn't that one sovereign say' mean

hybrid gazelle
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It not even plot hole like what

slender flax
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which sovereign lol

snow kiln
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I think you're missing something

snow kiln
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Legit just finish it

split night
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you're talking while you are in the dark

snow kiln
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Everything gets answered

split night
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like legit

hybrid gazelle
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😭

vestal rivet
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there's some odd things? like how the dates surrounding the corkians leaving seem a little iffy still, given they stole machine parts a few decades before Soosu started the industrial revolution and all

slender flax
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We're all hunky dory

vestal rivet
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all I can think of for plotholes

hybrid gazelle
# slender flax yea

You turn yourself in because not only you get permission to gain audiences with the queen but also use it as distraction to get the queen out of the rebel’s plan

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It explain in the quest

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There like

slender flax
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no i get that part

hybrid gazelle
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An entire scene talking about it

dim plover
hybrid gazelle
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So why is this plot hole

slender flax
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why did the guards quote some sovereign but gets cut off

vestal rivet
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so he hallucinating contexts rn

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xd

dim plover
hybrid gazelle
astral void
hybrid gazelle
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@slender flax The guards are referring to Two, she has premonition magic the game tells us this in the previous quest

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She predicted us turning ourselves in

astral void
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I think they talking about how two to foresee the player come turn themselves in

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So They were like

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“How does she knows

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From what I remember

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Probably will check it again

astral void
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Ah i see

split night
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Two have foresight so it make sense

hybrid gazelle
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But I remember this that scene go

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Yeah literally like

dim plover
hybrid gazelle
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Yeah

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They mention Two

astral void
split night
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guys just finish the Fruma storyline, there are very few plothole and you have to like use a spyglass to spot it, im not even sure how you missed some important yet obvious context

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😭

hybrid gazelle
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Explained to you 😭

split night
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yeah

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literally

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like it's in your face as well

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xd

astral void
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Okay I might have doo doo farted and missed everything about the device we stole so what is it about? I know it's related to the corruption but thats about it

astral void
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It’s pretty much reality bender

split night
snow kiln
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The only hole I can think of is the hole left in my heart after missing piece 🥺

astral void
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Until the secret door in the capital

hybrid gazelle
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It’s made device use to manipulate the element like it’s building block

astral void
snow kiln
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The weaver is setup for post fruma content

hybrid gazelle
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The weaver essentially use runes in order to manipulate reality

snow kiln
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Well defo use it for dern

astral void
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And that how the queen able to get her mortal form

split night
dim plover
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For fruma it doesn't play a massive part

snow kiln
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Other than us stealing it makes the queen go back to her real form

hybrid gazelle
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Also by taking the weaver out of the picture

astral void
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So some fruma characters will pop up in the next updates after wasteland?

snow kiln
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Cause she hasn't recharged it or something

lavish knot
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It def feels more like something thatll have more effect later on

split night
hybrid gazelle
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You impact the plot by forcing the queen to let her shell fall

split night
hybrid gazelle
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I think

snow kiln
hybrid gazelle
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I might have to read more

snow kiln
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Sui esp

split night
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I want to see the epilogue and how Tasim, Sui and Zeph gonna deal with Corruption in their body

hybrid gazelle
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But I remember it can do that

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Or being mention to do that

astral void
snow kiln
vestal rivet
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actually is WTP our first raid with a canon party? Us, Sui, Zeph, and Tasim

hybrid gazelle
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Maybe resonance weaver likely solution to binding portal as well

astral void
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Damn

snow kiln
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We don't know the extent to what the runes can do at all

snow kiln
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Literally zilch

split night
snow kiln
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Nada

hybrid gazelle
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But it not clear lol

split night
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similar to light portal

vestal rivet
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TCC was who again

split night
vestal rivet
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Astal or someone?????

astral void
snow kiln
vestal rivet
split night
hybrid gazelle
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Which I will be real

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Not uh

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A good team of people send to fight

astral void
astral void
split night
astral void
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Thats what bro meant

vestal rivet
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yeah I didn't get the impression they were helping us fight in the raid

split night
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like it's two scientists

hybrid gazelle
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Yeah me too

split night
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what are they gonna do

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xd

hybrid gazelle
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Man if only the story of Tcc being told better

astral void
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Two scientists against a giant who can split the continent if he walked one step btw

split night
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fricking like, invent things as they fight? xd

vestal rivet
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inneos is at least out of molten rock ig
the best rhay can manage is probably to charge at TCC with a power drill

hybrid gazelle
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They build fucking kill Tcc- inator

astral void
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Idk

snow kiln
astral void
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Might be larping

snow kiln
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Don't see no legs there

vestal rivet
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the image of Rhay letting out a warcry and almost tripping over his own feet as he charges TCC down wielding a power drill is funny for some reason