📚lore_discussion

[dim estuary]

only issue is thats there is only two and they guard like 10% of the map

[slim belfry]

yeah too bad one doesn't lie dormant in fruma

I'm not saying that fruma should be sent into the void but hmmmmmm

[dim estuary]

just realised how on earth did the twins discover the world? this implies they were in the physical plane but we know they were in the void which is outside of the physical plane

https://tenor.com/view/jjk-memes-jjk-ryu-jjk-larp-larping-gif-9136261405032725470

[frozen turtle]

They were on the void then either when the physical plane first came to be or whenever they first were able to detect it they made connections to it

[split night]

Not in the discover the world sense
Realm Beast can't leave their realm and enter Physical plane

Not discovered, in a normal sense really
It's more like astronomist discovered a star

[brittle prism]

physical plane is a floating chunk of rock and the realms of influence are in the same reality as earth theory is true

[dim estuary]

the physical plane had already come to be as thats were the matter that they had in the realm of influence came from

but yes maybe it just refers to making connections to it

[frozen turtle]

Well they existed before matter but were more just floating in nothing for a while I’m assuming

[dim estuary]

does anyone have the dialogue from that conversation saved its really hard to put things in order

without it

[dim plover]

They’re godlike beings they probably just discovered it from where they were in the void

[split night]

They are like, entirely in a different dimension compare to us
would saying the universe itself come to exist at one point make sense??

[dim plover]

Like sensed it or smth idk

[frozen turtle]

Yk that guardian tree says there are other realms then just the core 4, wonder if they would ever be explored or just said for fun

[dim plover]

Or spotting a massive island in the distance while at sea

[split night]

I mean when all the realm thing is done CT need idea for new contents xd

[frozen turtle]

When ocean update

[split night]

2056

[frozen turtle]

Realm of peace is real

But it’s just like a singular boulder

[brittle prism]

Realm of peace?!

We are the weakest realm beast theory

[split night]

i can't stress how much i want to do more fluff ball posting here when i heard the word realm of peace

[brittle prism]

Realm of Peace is so old and weak that we just seem like a regular guy

[frozen turtle]

is there a realm of jealousy if like, dark was jealous of light's progress

[brittle prism]

there are three ❌
there are three you must know ✅

Realm of Peace probably doesn't have a portal to the physical world because it's so pathetic

[frozen turtle]

or maybe it does but like its the size of a pea

[brittle prism]

Maybe Santa's the scion of peace

I mean he can summon a snow cloud in the desert

[dim estuary]

Sovereign Two: Once, there were two twins orbiting one another, each laying claim to their own piece of the void they were given.
A red mirror appears between the cubes.

Sovereign Two: The first was bright, radiant, overwhelming. The other was dark, shadowed, suffocating. Gazing through the abyss, they saw one another - each a mirror image of the other.
Sovereign Two: The twins grew to hate each other. They built forms all their own, denying the truth of their reflections. They tried, and tried, and tried to break their bonds...
Sovereign Two: ...but in the end, they could do naught but orbit - holding influence in their own right, but possessing nothing to exert it on.

sorry team but looks like they can influence the void

[brittle prism]

And if realm of peace is the opposite of war it would be ice or water themed

[slim belfry]

THE MAGIC PROVINCE WATERS ARE REALM OF PEACE PORTALS GRAAAAAAH

https://tenor.com/view/wild-dog-brown-wild-brown-dog-wild-dog-bidz-gifs-gif-21851857

[brittle prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/296377212939010050/1480773200265613584/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker.gif

[frozen turtle]

yk why the wellspring of eternity has no lore, cuz they're waiting to reveal its the portal of peace

[frozen turtle]

influence yeah but they couldnt "exert it on"

[brittle prism]

And there can be more than 1 portal to a realm

Because we saw that in apotheosis

[frozen turtle]

to me that sounds like they could use themself to make shapes and forms but it was just made of the same thing

[dim estuary]

i guess it is just up to definition then

[slim belfry]

I love that it only has tidbits of lore because they're all very suspicious

[frozen turtle]

well its kinda clear why its important and what its used for but nothing about how it came to be and such

[slim belfry]

||physical realm beast bath water||

[dim estuary]

also can someone elaborate on when we said that there was a giant portal to the void below sky islands

[frozen turtle]

||anathema wants some of that physical realm bath water||

[frozen turtle]

i said portal, its not like the right way to view it, i just find its an easier way to visualise it

[slim belfry]

I don't think anathema can touch that stuff

[narrow kestrel]

wtf is this dude's problem 😭

[slim belfry]

let him collect the water

[brittle prism]

he's a Scion of the realm of peace

[frozen turtle]

I ned purple emerald to just paste that one imagine of the void stuff

[brittle prism]

Since war is fire themed and the opposite of fire is water and the opposite of war is peace

[slim belfry]

also corruption hates ice and water

[narrow kestrel]

??? why the fuck is he throwing it at me then

😭

[slim belfry]

it's a very suspicious relationship

I have a crazy bananas theory

wait nvm it might've been debunked

[brittle prism]

how

[frozen turtle]

just say it

[slim belfry]

ok what if

the ocean was angry but it wasn't always like this

what if it started raging when light and dark started fighting in the world

[brittle prism]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[narrow kestrel]

wheres the entrance again 😭

[brittle prism]

why would it stop tho

[slim belfry]

someone calmed it down

[frozen turtle]

i mean, idk if its confirmed but im pretty sure the ocean got angry at some point cuz

[brittle prism]

oh right

forgot about that

[frozen turtle]

oh wait no

[brittle prism]

what about before the portals opened?

[frozen turtle]

i was just thinking that runes appear on both Wynn and Gavel, so that could be cuz t hey interacted or just that they were fundamental so they both discovered them

[full jackal]

a statue in the river

[narrow kestrel]

where

[slim belfry]

calm?

[full jackal]

theres a statue near timasca

[brittle prism]

huh

[full jackal]

Theres an entrance on the base

[brittle prism]

ig the elves and olm (and doguns) aren't good ship builders

fair enough

[full jackal]

now leave this spoilered place and do not come back

check the wiki if you need

[slim belfry]

there were two portal opening events

[narrow kestrel]

nvm i just used the tunnel

[full jackal]

okay cool

also is that morgan fey from ace attorney?

[dim plover]

So you’re saying that in order to enter the Realm of Peace you have to jump into water?

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/hexxit/images/8/83/2013-09-22_20.08.12.png/revision/latest?cb=20130923000902

[slim belfry]

NONONONONO

NOT THE NAME TOO

[slim belfry]

the fact wynn for this long has been no mods and possibly contending against this is a very funny thought

[brittle prism]

the Realm of light portal is an air portal (you fall through air), the realm of war portal is some sort of liquid portal? (when you enter Realm of War in Apotheosis it looks like a whirlpool) , and realm of dern portal is a solid portal (i mean try to go through it you'll just hit it)

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

Those are all the three states of matter

[frozen turtle]

realm of peace is plasma portal

[brittle prism]

Except plasma

[brittle prism]

exactly

And like the realm of war portal is liquid (like water, the opposite of its aesthetic of fire) the realm of peace portal will be plasma (like fire?, the opposite of it's aesthetic of water)

therefore if you try to enter the realm of peace you'll die Unless you're fire resistant

[frozen turtle]

plasma is like stars and stuff

[brittle prism]

fire is kind of a weak plasma but not really

it looks like it tho

and it is hot

[brittle prism]

hmn

Maybe the realm of peace is cosmic

And the moon cows,wybels and wocs running the silverbull company, as well as Majin, are harnessing peace magic!

Maybe...

the sun

is the realm of peace portal

ehh

if anni can create a mini sun then I don't think its associated with peace

[brittle prism]

Realm of Peace might have been formed before Orphion and Saphanis grew to hate each other

[primal anchor]

there's actually 20 ice realms one for each phase of ice

[earnest prairie]

theorick 1

[tribal patio]

Dont you love when u get to build a bomb in wynncraft

and i just realized we're gunna terrorize a festival with this

[narrow kestrel]

do we get to gaslight aledar's death on this mf??? he lowk deserves it atp.

FUCK FIRENADO

[vapid path]

🤷‍♂️My freedom fighter is your terrorist

[tribal patio]

make fruma great again

fruma must pay for what it has done

[narrow kestrel]

every fight this dude has is buggy as shit

holy fuck

this wouldnt be that bad if it werent for the fact he has 6 mil hp and gets a damage reduction that doesnt get REMOVED

[hybrid gazelle]

IDK why it only happen to some people

cause for me it did not

[narrow kestrel]

im ngl watching the "queen" fight is a bit anticlimatic for me

knowing we fucking fought orphion + the parasite like. 3 questlines ago

we could just jump her ass right here 😭

syndra a bum for losing that

[hybrid gazelle]

but we did not fight Orphion tho

and IDK if you see Apotheosis or not

but we literally could not

and Syndra is just still normal person

at the end of the day

she is highly skilled trained soldier yes

but she is still a normal person

even player could not solo the queen, what make you think Syndra can

[dim plover]

Forced loss moment

[narrow kestrel]

is the raid not canon

[hybrid gazelle]

it's canon

but you did not fight orphion

you fight a struggling orphion that trying to shake parasite off him

and parasite is well

it's creature that meant to infect god and all but that like saying disease is weak because it got defeated by a fucking pill lol

[formal bridge]

the raid boss is basically just trying to wrangle a cat which is scratching up everything around itself lmao

[hybrid gazelle]

I wish they protray parasite as more cunning threat than power house

but IDK maybe it just has 0 character at all which is why it's that way

[carmine cradle]

Me when the shadow bug doesn’t get three hundred lines of dialogue

[narrow kestrel]

what does IA mean

no spoilers pls

[spring kernel]

Industrial Age

[hybrid gazelle]

industrial age

it just world building bit

[carmine cradle]

But yeah, what the freak is wyns powerscaling, surely amandel, who canonically is supposed to get the power to like, reshape the world or something, is somewhere on the level of parasite, a silly bug who munched on the deer

[spring kernel]

Don't question

[hybrid gazelle]

mmorpg level is more of a timeline progression that indication of power

so Amadel probably powerful and all that

[carmine cradle]

Ik, which is why I’m asking about where does it all fit

[hybrid gazelle]

parasite is more oa weapon to design to fuck over Realm beast

[carmine cradle]

And why don’t we as the player just jump the queen ourselves, we’ve taken a god, we can win

[hybrid gazelle]

rather than dealing with direct threat

so it not much a fighter but rather than sabotage

becuase

apotheosis already shown you

that you cant

also killing the queen outright even if you can

[carmine cradle]

It hasn’t yet, but I’m sure it will

[hybrid gazelle]

would spark so much political issue

[carmine cradle]

When I get there

[carmine cradle]

Politics? The only tics I care about are Minecraft tics

[hybrid gazelle]

that to obad because fruma story is heavily tie to politic

due to its nature of being story about fighting fascists

and dictatorship

killing the queen outright would spark so many poltiical issue that can cause choas in fruma society

since the queen still beloved figure despite the action she done

to kill her outright would have cause citizens to go against the rebel and the entire cause of the rebels would be lost

then you gonna have invicible type of situation wher they just gonna elect someone with the same intrest as the queen

and everything about society will be the same if not worse

Fruma understand this and which is why many critize Syndra for her reckless action

cause even if the plan succeed then it would be all for nothing if they cant deal with the aftermath

soverigns would continue to exist and with them on the queen side intitally they would be next to be elect in power

so summary
Killing a dictator is good but you gotta plan to reshape the society afterward if you actually do want to get rid of them

[narrow kestrel]

is it their term for After Portal?

because i know they're kinda all clueless to wtf is going on outside fruma

[hybrid gazelle]

it's their calender

[narrow kestrel]

oh

[hybrid gazelle]

Fruma use different calender

there is
New Age
Royal Age
Knowledge Age
Industrial Age

probably more

[narrow kestrel]

do we have a conversion

[hybrid gazelle]

but they have different calnder

yeah

we do

[narrow kestrel]

like. whats IA

in AP

[hybrid gazelle]

Yep

but posting the timeline a bit of spoiler

[narrow kestrel]

is that from further on the questline

[narrow kestrel]

oh alr

[hybrid gazelle]

yes

[narrow kestrel]

ill leave

LOL

[hybrid gazelle]

wel lnot really

it just we draw comparison

and do some guess work

[narrow kestrel]

that gikyo person i keep hearing about is near

is her fight actually that hard

😭

[mossy widget]

their* and ya

[tepid blade]

Their fight it kind of difficult

[snow kiln]

Ong tho why would a dictator start a university

Seems like a good way to topple their own reign

[drifting aurora]

this is the first time i've seen someone use "her" for gikyo

that's funny

[tepid blade]

To have an educated population, and she still censured the shit out of the universities knowledge

[mossy widget]

same

but also posting an SS of a character using they them for gikyo and still getting the pronouns wrong is objectively hilarious

[snow kiln]

Yes an educated population is a good way to topple your power

They start asking questions

[split night]

oh my boat, and here I thought Majin was just a normal asshole 😭
man he's just an ass asshole after I read Gale's diary, how can a person like this exist

[tepid blade]

Well not if that education is heavily controlled

and filled with propaganda

[hybrid gazelle]

Gale already said that many materials in university are heavily censored by the crown

like she point that out

the theme of highland is people living in ignorant

[snow kiln]

Yes but a researchers job is to research

[narrow kestrel]

the talismans they brought up

[drifting aurora]

we do have a reason for the university being established when it did but i'm actually not sure if that's in game yet

[narrow kestrel]

are interesting

[hybrid gazelle]

resaerchers likely only benefit the crown

[snow kiln]

There is a reason for it ig then. 😭

[hybrid gazelle]

and the stuff research go through the crown censorship

[narrow kestrel]

i wonder if they'll let us use "talismans" which are basically consu that does spells from classes

[hybrid gazelle]

to control what the citizens know

[snow kiln]

Yes ofc

[hybrid gazelle]

I dont htink it's in the gmae unless I miss it

[snow kiln]

But why even allow people to research stuff in the first place

[hybrid gazelle]

is it SD?

wait

it likely that resaerche would be moderate by the crown

[drifting aurora]

i mean. if you dont have any education youre not getting any advancement

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah

[snow kiln]

Allowing people to know things about their world let's them realize all the queens lies are hot bullshit.

[brittle mirage]

university of pyongyang

[snow kiln]

Fruma is so isolated, did it need advancement?

[hybrid gazelle]

they are not gonna put some random guy to do trhe research lol

[snow kiln]

Wynn was never going to war with fruma

[drifting aurora]

blink

[brittle mirage]

speaking of war

[hybrid gazelle]

war is not the only reason for advancement

there can be just

[narrow kestrel]

who the fuck keeps leaking info

[hybrid gazelle]

wanting to improve your society

[narrow kestrel]

does the queen have The Eye on her payroll

😭

[snow kiln]

There doesn't need to be tho

[snow kiln]

What no 😭

[hybrid gazelle]

you already met the the rat

[brittle mirage]

was the line ||there is no war within fruman wars|| planned all along? like the correlation with ||realm of war||

[narrow kestrel]

yusano still suspicious i dont trust this mf

[hybrid gazelle]

okay I just gonna reveal it now

since it never talk about later on

actually no

[snow kiln]

I'm pretty sure that was a fan thing that ended up being mega cannon

[mossy widget]

i feel like we're glossing over the fact the university is in aelumia which is the most prestigious area in the province its not like anyone is going there

[drifting aurora]

i actually dont think so

[hybrid gazelle]

have you reach mistwood first and you will know

[drifting aurora]

im pretty sure it was just an ATLA reference

[hybrid gazelle]

that one is just avatar reference from what i heard
but ig uess the modern writers manage to make it true LOL

like IN AW AY

[brittle mirage]

ohh i never watched that

[hybrid gazelle]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HHZWvB1aMAAnRVY.webp

[brittle mirage]

top ten coincidences of all time

[hybrid gazelle]

TECHNICALLY

[snow kiln]

Yes ofc, but most highlander research serves to benefit a few. I.e. majin 😭

[hybrid gazelle]

they fullfil the prophency

[snow kiln]

The only research of progress we see is soosu

[nocturne nimbus]

the whole memory wipe thing is an ATLA reference I believe

[drifting aurora]

probably

[hybrid gazelle]

to be fair it likely there to train future politican

[nocturne nimbus]

https://tenor.com/view/there-is-no-war-in-ba-sing-se-dai-li-agent-avatar-the-last-airbender-atla-gif-16455523

[tepid blade]

True, most people who have the money and education to go there are the people who are already deep within state propaganda

[brittle mirage]

who made that quest 😭

[hybrid gazelle]

and other potential soverigns

[snow kiln]

Yes there is no war in basingse

[snow kiln]

Someone who liked atla clearly

[hybrid gazelle]

I pretty sure highland people recieve their education from citadel university LOL

cosnider hwo Cemor and

and uhhh

what her name?

Duaghter of the professor

[snow kiln]

Seriously?

[hybrid gazelle]

well I did not see any

school or other education site in Highland

[nocturne nimbus]

Genuinely I think Grian

[hybrid gazelle]

and I feel like they only talk about the university LOL

so I kinda assume

[warm adder]

why was the option to tell tasim aledar died in queens recruit removed

[hybrid gazelle]

taht where most people do

[drifting aurora]

well no there probably is something. the university is only for higher level studies

[hybrid gazelle]

and if you are in highland, you proabbly the upper class to begin with

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah fair enough

[snow kiln]

Yeah this what id assume

They ain't gonna add trade school to each region

[hybrid gazelle]

it just never mention so I kinda like skeptical

[snow kiln]

As world building as that is

[drifting aurora]

werent able to finish the dialogue changes for the rest of the questline so it was removed temporarily

[nocturne nimbus]

There can be private education as well, I believe that is mentioned in The Strong Survive (albeit martial education in that case)

[drifting aurora]

when its done itll be in changelog

[hybrid gazelle]

oh yeah that too

[warm adder]

Oh

[warm adder]

Alr nice

[snow kiln]

Also a lot of frumans do education the old school way

With a mentor pupil style

The liff hunter

Soosu

Etc.

[frozen turtle]

i dont think there are any schools anywhere that i can remember

except yk that uni and ig grookwarts

[limber swan]

does Wynn even have a school

does Gavel?

[uneven basin]

I always assumed gavel had schools just off screen

Wynn I doubt

Kids'd be directly sent to work when able in this kind of society

[frozen turtle]

maybe the schools just happen in a random building

[uneven basin]

Same thing for fruma btw

[echo hamlet]

||has anyone translated the fruman text in the monument of the sunken city in the lake near Hyloch?||

[frozen turtle]

#1489836179665981621

idk if they have but if they have it'll be in that channel

[limber swan]

idk Ragni's King seems to be a nice guy

[echo hamlet]

cheers

[uneven basin]

As nice as he is I don't think schools are in his priority list

[limber swan]

Fruma obviously

[hybrid gazelle]

I feel like wynn would not have space for school

parents likely taught their own kids

[sick quest]

hes a very weak king tbh

[hybrid gazelle]

and then they have to work

if not millitary

[sick quest]

and only exerts control over ragni (and minimal control at that)

[limber swan]

I guess in wynn there isn't a need for it anyways

[frozen turtle]

i'd imagine either parents teach or like, you'd have very small classes which 1 parent may do or smth

[hybrid gazelle]

because

that his kingdom?

Territory surrounding Rangi likely Ragni territory

but as Jenprest mention

[sick quest]

honestly the most concentrated power in the Wynn Province (outside of WynnExcavation) seems to be either the Detlas Military or the Almuj bank

[hybrid gazelle]

the undead been pushing people into the fortress

[limber swan]

true but that doesn't make him weak

[frozen turtle]

Ragni was pushed back though

i think

[sick quest]

Undead pushing people towards the city; an army made largely out of Fruman recruits (which Fruma still exerts a lot of control over); WynnExcavation exerting control over large parts of Almuj and Troms (the neighboring kingdom); Nemract falling apart (Nemract seems governed by either Ragni or Detlas)

Like Ragni has gotta be the weakest or second weakest kingdom

[limber swan]

I'm thinking nemract is controlled by ragni since it has a general

[sick quest]

Strongest being the dwarves ofc

[limber swan]

Troms has a general

[sick quest]

After Fruma

[frozen turtle]

Troms also has a king

[limber swan]

and that means Ragni must have a general

[frozen turtle]

so

[sick quest]

But Frumas in a league of its own

[limber swan]

god damnit

[sick quest]

Troms has a king and is independent from Ragni

As is Almuj

[hybrid gazelle]

Ragni still likely contribute to the food prodcution

and replenishment

[limber swan]

uggh can someone kick me from that chat I don't belong here

[hybrid gazelle]

for the entire province

[limber swan]

I keep mistaking shit

[hybrid gazelle]

they still likely hold power as much as Detlas

[frozen turtle]

half this chat is people mistaking shit

[sick quest]

Yes Ragni is agriculturally powerful but not close to Detlas

[hybrid gazelle]

also wynn millitary is not explored as much as Fruma

so we likely get expansion on that in future update

and society in wynn province

[split night]

I've seen people asking why Detlas and Ragni not just rally up all of their military forces to conquest all of the corruption, you're fine

[brittle prism]

ƿ

[frozen turtle]

why doesnt llevigar send all its quartz to the corruption portal and blow it up 🤔

[narrow kestrel]

ok i understand the gikyo "difficulty" now

i love mora oneshots

😍

shit so fun

fr

[brittle prism]

just build military forts on every corruption spike fr

[hybrid gazelle]

wynn mf when they try to go on offensive and met with nothing but wasteland and dead soldiers(they just keep giving numbers to the undead)

[split night]

It's hilarious because this is like donating your forces to your enemy basically

a big army, that can become the enemy if one of them die

[brittle prism]

Just go on mega defense and hire Gavellian fort builders to surround every spike

Yes corruption would still rage on

But it

would also be useless

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/296377212939010050/1480773200265613584/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker.gif

[dim estuary]

have we considered sending all the corruption spikes to the void?

[hybrid gazelle]

that would viable if we know how

actualyl no

it nopt

all spike connected thorugh the root

so you gotta like

unearth the entire province to get rid of them all

[split night]

You have to blow up the entire province in order for that to happen yeah

[brittle prism]

Just blow up the area directly around the roots of corruption

That way the rest of the spikes aren't connected anymore??

maybe?

[split night]

not to mention, what if those root are what keeping the soil stable, if we remove them all it might cause the ground to collapses

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah sure

let's blow up

a spike that is like

almost big as quarter of Detlas

[split night]

Like, the spike should also be what keeping the ground like, here
it provide structural integrity so like

if we blow it up , we would have a lot of hole in the province

like LOT of holes

[brittle prism]

just blow up the area directly around the portal

Then corruption is gone

Horray

[frozen turtle]

if we ask the colossus really nice, he'll send it to the void for us

[split night]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1167848346485006459/1394255128696979568/togif.gif

[narrow kestrel]

nvm i forgot i Conflagrate is a fun and balanced node on Trickster's skill tree

i can understand why people would have trouble with this on shit like say.

archer

or shaman

[split night]

Gikyo isn't really that difficult, i first tried them as bolt

[narrow kestrel]

i think people just kept getting one shot by mora

that took me by surprise too

[split night]

they are just, REALLY tanky so it's more a drag out fight rather than a hard fight

[narrow kestrel]

but once you die once, any reattempt is easy

[split night]

you guys don't dodge?? xd

[brittle prism]

warrior?

[narrow kestrel]

ehh this is easier than whatever the fuck syndra 2 was

[narrow kestrel]

im playing trick bro i kinda have to get hit to be useful 😭

[split night]

I didn't even know Gikyo have a oneshot phase because I just dodge everything

[narrow kestrel]

its just sometimes, the hit HITS a little too hard

and you just die!

[narrow kestrel]

mora

wearing full morph with nulli and fire investment

killed me in one hit from 16k hp

🤷‍♂️

[brittle prism]

gikyo is the frog man's parent

[narrow kestrel]

it has a very long windup time so its balanced but still

took me by surprise

i thought i could tank it with mirror clones

[sick quest]

Let's hypothesize that the army of the Wynn Province has been consolidated since Bob (which seems likely):
Ragni: Has a villager king even though its a human city, the fact that its a human city seems to be in large part composed of Fruman soldiers forcibly enlisted into Ragni; it is also important to note that the Fruman queen exerts power not only over those soldiers but over the king of Ragni himself (Queen's Recruit)
Nemract: Withered away, dominated by Charon's nearby army, exclusively surviving because of cash flow from boats
Detlas: Army, farmland, recruitment and training of non-Fruman population, fairly stable and happy city, seems the most stable tbh
Ternaves: Stables, little defenses
Nesaak: Depleted, withering town
Lusuco: Shockingly lively and happy town, largely due to its isolation
Bremminglar: Tribal town, disconnected from rest of Wynn
Almuj: Some correlation to Wynn Military, currently run by WynnExcavation
Rymek: bandit town
Troms: separate kingdom connected to Ragni, also overrun by WynnExcavation
Iboju: Tribal town
Entamis: Tribal town, isolated, overrun by corruption

[split night]

who even use morph in the big 2026

[narrow kestrel]

mama this is my first playthrough

i have to do 3hour lootruns for money

😭

also morph is fairly tanky

[frozen turtle]

i was so sad when they removed morph set actually cried

[split night]

WynnPolitics

[narrow kestrel]

esp on trick

😭

[sick quest]

Realistically the Wynn Military is governed by a mutual protection treaty (since Bob, to combat corruption) hence the common admiralty

[narrow kestrel]

i dont understand the slander

[sick quest]

My pol sci major is showing

[split night]

It's a 1000 years war, I think it's fair that they are united to fight against a common threat

[sick quest]

yeah

Just wondering how that military is governed (given how its separate from city-state governance)

So its likely a council of admirals

[frozen turtle]

there kinda seems to be a united military or maybe im misremembering things

[sick quest]

Yeah ^^

[frozen turtle]

cause i remember the same military being In the desert

[sick quest]

But it would have to be carefully done such that you wouldnt get a military coup interfering in the independence of a city-state like Almuj or a separate kingdom like Troms

[split night]

realistically I think the best way to deal with the corruption spike is to just stop the portal from functioning
I imagine if the spike do truly behave like a mushroom colony, then It might die when it lose it source and decompose back into the earth again
that should solve the structural integrity problem and corruption

[sick quest]

So likely a binding treaty and a council of admirals

The admirals being chosen from their respective city

[frozen turtle]

i disagree, best way to stop the corruption spikes is to get rid of RoW by making saphanis and orphion kiss which would get rid of the realm and ergo the corruption

[split night]

Almuj is really big, like a lot bigger than Detlas and Ragni, and I don't like that
though mostly because I just don't like the desert in general

[sick quest]

Honestly the Ragni king (who does seem really nice) is quite politically sus

[sick quest]

Villager king in a human province, who heavily relies on Fruman queen, during the WynnExcavation crisis too?

[split night]

Ragni King is fully against WynnEx
it's just that he is probably like Troms King

[sick quest]

Yeah im just wondering how you get a villager king in a human province

[split night]

who fight them but got ass wooped by a conspiracy multi country company

[split night]

Being really good at his job I guess?
I mean so far he's doing pretty great

[sick quest]

Like it seems possible that an ancestor of the king of Ragni was installed there by a Gavellian coup

[sick quest]

Yeah im just wondering about the line of succession

[split night]

and the humans in Wynn doesn't seem that much racist so I think it's possible

[sick quest]

True but it seems that this isnt a new noble house

[frozen turtle]

well, his family (biological at least) would've only been there for at most 100 years

[valid valve]

I think he says he's adopted

[sick quest]

Ohhhhh yeah that would answer that

[frozen turtle]

do u guys think Orphion is racist and thats why gavel is so racist

[sick quest]

That wouldnt surprise me

Especially since Orphion taught the elves not Aldorei specifically

[frozen turtle]

Anathema is homophobic

[split night]

Considering the Elves aren't racist
I doubt that

[frozen turtle]

therefore Saphanis is sexist

[sick quest]

The infinity stones of discrimination

[frozen turtle]

The elves were also taught "morals" that orphion didnt believe in

like pacifism so

[sick quest]

Honestly Wynn got quite lucky that Anathema is so isolationist

(Which is funny given that shes the embodiment of war)

Like it would be incredibly easy for Anathema to overtake Ragni

Nemract too

Theyd be stopped at Troms and Detlas

[frozen turtle]

eh

well

we talking Anathema (as her majesty obviously) with or without her Province

[gloomy idol]

if detlas can barely handle anni then idk if they can handle anathema

[sick quest]

With her province

[frozen turtle]

then obviously no

[sick quest]

Yeah fruma could probably burn detlas to the ground but they could never hold it

[frozen turtle]

Detlas and Troms get curbstomped

[sick quest]

they could hold ragni

and troms itself could evacuate to iboju, dernel, and the like

Prolonged guerilla warfare

[frozen turtle]

only places that may do well is Almuj and Troms due to the terrain/enviorment advantage

[sick quest]

The detlas army also has its alliance with cinfras

And the gavellians are fairly strong

[frozen turtle]

i dont think cinfras would be able to help as much and especially in time as ur thinking

strongest thing about Fruma is their military is probably the most organised

[sick quest]

Yeah but they have quite a rebellion problem

And wars tend to galvanize rebellions

[split night]

hey guys i think this guy might be on the racist list

[frozen turtle]

rebellion within citzens mostly

[sick quest]

Yes thats what a rebellion is

Groups like the leaves and the canopy would draw many more recruits during war

[frozen turtle]

yk, considering villagers have big noses, i get why the staff decided the racism should be one way

[sick quest]

Ragni could be taken, not detlas or troms

[frozen turtle]

only 2 members of the resistences were actually military

[split night]

Syndra and Us

[sick quest]

Yeah but thats irrelevant, citizen militia can still be impactful especially if they align with an outside military force

[split night]

literally

[sick quest]

Fruma couldnt march on Detlas while facing internal rebellions in the roughworks (the industrial center), Espren, and the Mistwoods (the prison area)

Especially since attacking Detlas would bring in Gavel and Almuj in a way Ragni wouldnt

[frozen turtle]

Mora

Used to be military

[split night]

right

[sick quest]

Also any external military action by Fruma would immediately be responded to by Corkus

[drifting aurora]

mora never actually joined the military

[sick quest]

Which does have quite a well equipped military

[drifting aurora]

but he was on track for it

[frozen turtle]

Yeah close enough

Detlas struggled against bakal just want to remind you of this

[sick quest]

Yeah but Bakal folds any of the sovereigns (except maybe Two) bakal is incredibly powerful

[neat oriole]

nah i think they would summon bob and slime out all of fruma

[sick quest]

Ong

[neat oriole]

what fights has bak al been in

[frozen turtle]

Majin and soosu clear easy

no doubt

Gikyo might and zhirahok too

[sick quest]

Honestly the world of Wynncraft is dominated basically by capitalism which is hilarious

[frozen turtle]

Plus anathema herself is there so

[sick quest]

Nah no wayyyyyy

Anathema wins but theres no way Bakal loses to Majin or Soosu

[drifting aurora]

soosu in a combat scenario is scary

[neat oriole]

soosu can uh

just rip bak al apart

[drifting aurora]

but she never puts herself into one

[neat oriole]

and then it's over

atomises bak al

[drifting aurora]

i dont think she would ever actually do it. but she has the potential to just destroy him

[frozen turtle]

Or at least get rid of his arm

or crush him or anything

[neat oriole]

i'm sure if it was to protect someone she would

[frozen turtle]

And majin is actually powerful sadly

[neat oriole]

or maybe a group of people idk

[sick quest]

We still dont fully understand Bak'al's capabilities and as the former Scion of War and current general for Saphanis's armies I feel it unreasonable for Saphanis to have chosen someone weaker than Majin or Soosu

And Bak'al is basically Sovereign One

As the first great servant of anathema

[neat oriole]

last time we saw bak al doing something

was fighting lari

i think

[drifting aurora]

i think she would choose to shape something else rather than directly affecting a person

ie the cage she puts zhiraok in

[neat oriole]

yeah makes sense

[sick quest]

Anyways all of this was to say that the strongest organizational force in Wynncraft is silverbull given that Wynncraft is the realm of capitalism and silverbull is just rly fkin rich

[frozen turtle]

She was friends with him though

In a fight who knows

[frozen turtle]

well for one, Saphanis chose Bak'al before those two were even born

and we dont really know exactly how blessings work, sovereigns apart from sovereigns blessing being more controlled/slightly lesser

and they clearly depend on the person so it probably moreso amplifies stuff,
Bak'al was already military so he got a power which lets him control an army
Majin was into magic and cosmic stuff and he got power over that
Soosu was into inventing and science and she got a power to better understand stuff/invent more

[hybrid gazelle]

Soosu turning your armor into concrete

[hybrid gazelle]

she has entire diary dedicated to showing how she disturbed by how her blessing causing her to see people as matter to be manipulater rather than living being

so yes even total stranger, she would feel relucted to use her power to directly mold someone

because that shit sound scary like

[frozen turtle]

yeah not saying she's actually mold someone, but probably worse then just a fun lil cage

just turning the air around bak'al into solid steel or smth like that

[narrow kestrel]

if i beat gikyo will i have trouble with future fights

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah

[narrow kestrel]

no spoilers but is there something harder than that?

[narrow kestrel]

damn

why is gikyo the only one i keep hearing about then

[frozen turtle]

there are 2 more big boss fights u may struggle with

there is one which will insta kill if you dont pay attention to dialogue + surrondings

[brittle mirage]

hello lorers is there a drive/document that documents all known anathema post raid dialogues?

cant find on the wiki

[drifting aurora]

theres a doc

someone will have a link surely

[brittle mirage]

did you just give me an assignment 💔

[frozen turtle]

i

[hybrid gazelle]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FeIyKgKSvTZc9R2xyJXjibaLKravjEqveKG5sB87iG8/edit?usp=sharing

[brittle mirage]

thanks

[frozen turtle]

o

[frozen turtle]

yeah write an essay on it

[brittle mirage]

yk i think i might actually be able to

the queen is honestly my favourite character

[drifting aurora]

truee

[narrow kestrel]

whys sui just mogging everyone

i swear they're making her appear stronger than theorick atp

😭

[brittle mirage]

which one of you suggested ||the contrast between her nature and her goal|| 🙏

[narrow kestrel]

what is he doing

[mossy badge]

He's just a chill guy

[drifting aurora]

👋

[mossy badge]

U alr got to highlands damn

[brittle mirage]

thanks

tbh i wouldve tried to pacify the queen instead of fighting her like lari

but that would be too absurd apparently but think about it if the goal of the player is to balance out light and dark like the queen did wouldnt that actually make the player and the queen on the same side?

after playing the questline it felt like the sole reason we have to fight the queen is for the people of fruma

and uh to close off the rift

also lore question
from this post raid dialogue ||https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FeIyKgKSvTZc9R2xyJXjibaLKravjEqveKG5sB87iG8/edit?tab=t.ip6lyipnvi34||and throughout the quests it has been implied that the player draws power from a bottomless well with a spark in it

i still dont understand what does the spark stand for or represent

[hybrid gazelle]

it is

but she is batshit insane

and also a dictator

[drifting aurora]

alas. she is too set in her ways to back down

[hybrid gazelle]

who is SET to change

[brittle mirage]

lari 🔥

[hybrid gazelle]

also she done far too many crimes

[brittle mirage]

real

[hybrid gazelle]

Lari's crime is just her pacifist which a lot of things happen where she did not meant to

even then

that barely a crime

compare to fucking fruma queen who like

[brittle mirage]

i mean on the matter of using her own methods

[hybrid gazelle]

100% intend on what she is doing

[brittle mirage]

ignorant bliss vs sentient

[hybrid gazelle]

I would not say Lari is ignorant

she ismply just try to find better outcome for everyone

including the Parasite

while the queen is more selfsih with her method

and also she is like

total control freak

[brittle mirage]

but she kept ignoring the fact that even orphion doesnt agree on being a pacifist

[hybrid gazelle]

so yeah no

"ignoring"

[brittle mirage]

no?

[hybrid gazelle]

you mean never tell her

[brittle mirage]

so lari is either stupid enough or stubborn enough

either way im still a member of lari love club

[hybrid gazelle]

in ROL 3 it highly imply that her pacifism stem from Orphion

[frozen turtle]

all lari arguments are rubbish cause the questline itself is weird and needs a rework

[narrow kestrel]

has it been 7 years

since lari fucked offf

[frozen turtle]

prolly

[hybrid gazelle]

what

7 years after what

like event of ROL 5?

[narrow kestrel]

that'll be another decade bro

😭

if you rewrite rol you rewrite pre-colossus gavel

[frozen turtle]

the amount of discourse the character generates based on the basic stuff then it's clearly an issue with how she's portrayed imo

[narrow kestrel]

[regal spire]

Who here fuck with the lore of eating/grilling a newyork strip at 1am

[frozen turtle]

i think since that quest was made like

update wise

[hybrid gazelle]

ROL and AJB/AJF planned to be rewrite after Fruma

[narrow kestrel]

fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh

[drifting aurora]

only been 5

"only"

lol

[brittle mirage]

great!

[narrow kestrel]

the wait for dern expansion

is gonna rival fruma's

[regal spire]

I was about to say

[narrow kestrel]

🔥

[regal spire]

“Only” 👴

[frozen turtle]

what's 2 more years

[brittle mirage]

5*

[hybrid gazelle]

we dont need Dern anytime soon

there os much about wynncraft that need fixing

Fruma as good as it is

still felt the effect of mid game not being work on

[frozen turtle]

if they release Dern before fixing up the rest of Wynn i'll be sad

[brittle mirage]

hire more people into the content team 🔥🤑

[drifting aurora]

i hope wynncraft

[hybrid gazelle]

yes tasim character is pretty intresting in Fruma

[frozen turtle]

ocean update should be #1 priority

[hybrid gazelle]

but it VERY SPLIT

[regal spire]

I do, too

[hybrid gazelle]

I seen so much divided on the opinion of Tasim

[drifting aurora]

meh

[hybrid gazelle]

because he like

[regal spire]

Ik wynn will shut down one day, and I pray it’s at least after I die

[brittle mirage]

fruma tasim doesnt feel like tasim

[dim estuary]

frumas bottom comes first

then jungle

[frozen turtle]

at least just delete maro peaks

for now

[hybrid gazelle]

Tasim lack the smooth transition because early and late game because we did not see him mid game

so yeah

that why like

as good as Fruma is

it still fucked over by mid game not being updated

[narrow kestrel]

why does this sovereign look 100x more competent than the others

[regal spire]

She’s old

[narrow kestrel]

zhiraok is practically sitting on his ass compared to what shes doing

😭

[frozen turtle]

She's Two

[drifting aurora]

id say he's pretty similar to earlygame tasim

[dim estuary]

500 years of experience will do that

[mossy badge]

More like 800

[regal spire]

Zhiraok is the youngest sovereign, then Soosu, then Majin. In the grand scheme of things, those 3 are babies

[drifting aurora]

ahc tasim feels off but thats because its ahc

[hybrid gazelle]

TBH even then it also get fucked by AJB/AJF because the rewrite dialogye is not known to everyone

so people just think Tasim being idot for missing about Aledar 😭

[dim estuary]

i went conservative cos we dont know

[drifting aurora]

but yeah midgame will help

[dim estuary]

and because 1 only joined in year 5 so 2 must be after

[frozen turtle]

I just want more Tasim before Fruma so him being apart of Fruma feels more impactful

same with Aledar

[hybrid gazelle]

how?

[drifting aurora]

that's the plan!

[mossy badge]

Didn't he join 0 AP ?

[hybrid gazelle]

Zhiraok literally been improve quality of life in Aburn forest

that even Syndra admit it

[brittle mirage]

basically the reason for his attitude towards player comes from

1. death of aledar at the hands of player
2. he and the player chose different sides

BUT the fact that both aledar dies and different sides things are both like forced and not a decision made by me, so it felt like the whole arc is kinda forced

[regal spire]

Two’s definitely a part of the old Fruman civilization, so much older than 500

[hybrid gazelle]

How the fuck do you saying ZHiraok sitting on his ass

[regal spire]

I mean, look at that getup

[hybrid gazelle]

When shit like Majin exist 😭

did we play the same game???

[frozen turtle]

lowkey what if you just made all the like npcs in gavel Tasim? like Lari is tasim, the doguns are tasim cuz then we'd get so much tasim time

[mossy badge]

Blud just saw it

[hybrid gazelle]

Zhiraok actively improving Auburn Forest infrastructure
Soosu working on Resonace Weaver but even without it, she just coop up in her mansion
Gikyo trainning changeling and oversee Mistwood

Soosu is not even good at governing, the queen literally said it to her

[frozen turtle]

Majin is busy being an incel

[drifting aurora]

maybe the real majin was the friends we made along the way

[frozen turtle]

if twitter existed in Fruma he'd spend all his time writing sexist shit on it

[hybrid gazelle]

KILLING HIM

[brittle mirage]

iirc the reason for tasim to become a sovereign is to "have the power to change things", which sounds noble, but throughout the questline tasim just sat on his ass and does what hes told

[hybrid gazelle]

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HEtkFUdWQAAmdZg.webp

[brittle mirage]

until he saw anathema transformation and then he realises oh the queens actually bad

[drifting aurora]

ok to be fair to him. he gets 2 seconds before the playwr's already fucking things up

[hybrid gazelle]

Seeing Zhiraok slander about his skill as soverign boil my blood becuase Majin

Majin fucking exist

he right there

his ass right there

[brittle mirage]

zhiroak is a good sovereign

[dim estuary]

majin is a great sovereign

[drifting aurora]

by the time he's recovered from ascension it's already echoes of change

and it really only gets more chaotic from there

[frozen turtle]

i mean,
we shouldnt hate the queen just bc shes' the war beast, its more that she was tryna kill everyone in auburn forest

[brittle mirage]

i LOVE the queen

[frozen turtle]

and has being a evil ruler

[mossy badge]

And i love hitler

[brittle mirage]

🔥

[hybrid gazelle]

Truly if Tasim is more socialize guy, he would have change Fruma by sheer charisma

[frozen turtle]

i mean maybe tasim thought that but i dont think that makes sense

[drifting aurora]

tasim feels trapped in the sovereign position because he sees the queen as the only possible way to save the world

[brittle prism]

She's more of a Stalin

[brittle mirage]

oh yea shit i remember that now

alright this makes better sense

[drifting aurora]

he's pretty clearly opposed to the shit she's pulling but he doesnt feel like he has a choice

[brittle mirage]

is it explained anywhere on why the queen chose tasim?

[hybrid gazelle]

he pass the citeria

[mossy badge]

He was a bigger chad

[hybrid gazelle]

it explained by Two

in queen's recruit

[drifting aurora]

(he is wrong. but thats the point)

[mossy badge]

But again he's a fraud smh

[frozen turtle]

the 2nd strongest out of us and is like predictable/would listen to her

or at least he's strong enough

[hybrid gazelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1015394899497058304/1500358954855960727/Fruma_Queen_Smol.gif

nooo Tasim nonoo

[brittle mirage]

in the matter of strength? so is tasim stronger than the player lorewise

[mossy badge]

Why does strength matter tbh, like soosu pre-ascension surely not strong lol

[frozen turtle]

no

[neat oriole]

was tasim going to helldive into dern

[hybrid gazelle]

no

Tasim not only strong but also is not choatic ball like the player

[dim estuary]

what?

[hybrid gazelle]

that prety much it

[drifting aurora]

the player is just a worse pick for what the queen needs

[frozen turtle]

Part of it is strength i guess, but its more how he behaves

[brittle mirage]

i didnt fully understand what the criteria is or i might have forgot given i played the whole questline in like 3 days

[neat oriole]

ehm

[frozen turtle]

like if Tasim fit the yk, predictable stuff and would follow along but didnt have the strength she probably wouldnt of

[brittle mirage]

fair enough if im the queen i would choose a disciplined soldier instead of a mass murderer

[hybrid gazelle]

The queen need someone who is not only just strong and capable but also loyal

[mossy badge]

The criteria is being an npc and ngl the player is pretty npc too

[hybrid gazelle]

the player is too choatic to predict

[brittle mirage]

fair

[dim estuary]

the queen has needs ass comment

[neat oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-kys-kill-everyone-magic-conch-shell-serious-gif-5507711815897465782

[mossy badge]

Player does anything u tell em

[hybrid gazelle]

the queen is control freak

[regal spire]

We see that line, about our potential being “hidden from her”. How’s it that she only saw it, once she started being beaten up by us

[hybrid gazelle]

so the idea of one of her subordinate being choatic is acceptable to her

[frozen turtle]

only reason it feels weird is cause the players identity isn't very established, so saying we're "too unpredictable" can feel weird

[neat oriole]

player would do anything if there is a potential to make good money or become hella strong

[drifting aurora]

she doesnt see a reason to look deeper until you ask her to

[frozen turtle]

or potential

[drifting aurora]

and she seems to think it was intentionally hidden from her

[frozen turtle]

cow god hid our power from her

cow realm beast

[brittle mirage]

i really like even in the middle of lore dialogues there are stupid ones like the healht pot healing

very wynncraft indeed

[drifting aurora]

i let myself have 1 silly dialogue. as a treat

[mossy badge]

Hp pot is life saving bro

[regal spire]

Idk how good of a question this is, but how exactly does she look deeper into us? There’s so much symbolism in the way this aspect of our character exists, it’s a bit tough for me to pinpoint what’s literal and what’s not

[brittle mirage]

anyway is there any symbolic meaning behind this? the queens reaction makes it seem like there is something hidden inside the player

[frozen turtle]

i mean its vague on purpose, its a spark or potential or smth that i dont think they wanna disclose yet

[mossy badge]

The cow god is hidden within

✅

[drifting aurora]

it certainly seems to tie into the whole deal with the bottomless well

but it's a mystery as to what exactly it is

[mossy badge]

We will discuss this with nifilis in wastelands update ‼️

[regal spire]

Ik I’ve made the same joke 100 times now, but I still like to believe what she saw was us

[frozen turtle]

its a great move cuz if a player guesses what it is you can just change it so its completely new and shocking

[mossy badge]

What does that mean

[drifting aurora]

wynncraft if it were written by scott cawthon

[regal spire]

Doxxed

[brittle mirage]

also is it basically hinted that the next content stuff will be about old fruman civilisation efromath or smth

[frozen turtle]

because a good mystery is something no one can even guess randomly and have no clues behind it

[drifting aurora]

i do love clues

[hybrid gazelle]

Surely if wynncraft written by Scott, he would not add golden variant of someone,,,,

[brittle mirage]

i mean given all the effort put into building the lore

[drifting aurora]

fruma has lots of little tiny clues

[drifting aurora]

golden tasim...

[mossy badge]

I mean ig

[frozen turtle]

i mean im still pretty sure its cows but whatever

[mossy badge]

They addin items and books about it

Like randomly

[brittle mirage]

golden? as in a golden... freddy?

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/golden-ratio-goldener-schnitt-gif-7318102537873114678

[drifting aurora]

next content stuff will be the wastelands

[brittle mirage]

is ts canon

[neat oriole]

the island

[frozen turtle]

it is

its canon

[regal spire]

The only difference is we don’t have an entire YouTube channel cowriting for you to farm content

[brittle mirage]

thanks lexnt

[mossy badge]

Schizo island ❤️‍🩹

[drifting aurora]

but i do have the lore discussion channel!

[neat oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/golden-freddy-five-nights-at-freddy's-fnaf-ultimate-custom-night-ucn-gif-9084129085048418884

[narrow kestrel]

should have stayed in wynn, dumbass ❤️

[brittle mirage]

i genuinely cant tell whether this is a joke or not given the amount of absurdity in wynncraft

[narrow kestrel]

i hope theres a fight, i really need to beat this mf up

[regal spire]

The TRUE FINAL Timeline of WYNNCRAFT

[frozen turtle]

tasim is infact sadly not golden

[brittle mirage]

well

[mossy badge]

lol

[frozen turtle]

but in our hearts

he is

[hybrid gazelle]

https://fixupx.com/i/status/2053202847630848288

This is what Gikyo does to Croquin while raising him

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[brittle mirage]

if theres only a ratio...

[frozen turtle]

i hate croquin cuz he baited me so hard into thinking we'd see Professor Eih

[mossy badge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1167848346485006459/1465060298179215360/caption.gif

[brittle mirage]

https://tenor.com/view/jojo-jojo's-bizarre-adventure-six-seven-six-seven-boy-six-seven-jojo-gif-7811346968513257600

[regal spire]

“Find my Tell Him Route’s”

What we all don’t know is that the route has been in the game since launch, but we haven’t figured out to right parameters to meet activation

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[regal spire]

Fruma Impressed

[brittle mirage]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1464427461935632384/1464835985610113045/cinema.gif

[regal spire]

Surprised we haven’t gotten one that says “Absolute Syndrama”

[hybrid gazelle]

We have glimpse of it in the trailer

but yeah

in 10 years

we will get it

in 10 years

[mossy badge]

Slight dialogue change smh

[regal spire]

Cannot wait for my child to play Fruma 2.0

You ever think about that? How Wynn might last until some of us have kids

And our kid might walk in on us playing goddamn Wynncraft

[frozen turtle]

train your kids to lootrun and farm mythics for you

[regal spire]

Homeschooling done right

5 LR’s a day minimum rewards you 1 meal voucher from the downstairs kitchen

[frozen turtle]

getting a mythic lets you sleep on a bed that night

[neat oriole]

doom

[regal spire]

“Dad, are you playing fucking Wynncraft?”
“No? I’m uhhhh… having an affair”

[frozen turtle]

should i ping moderators to ask if its against the rules to force your children to give you mythics in exchange for food & a bed to sleep in

[neat oriole]

ewww wynncraft.... didn't that die out years ago ???

dad are you really that old

[regal spire]

Cannot wait to wipe one sweat from my forehead

Phew!

[hybrid gazelle]

I do think Fruma could use more scene to make some part have more weight

I do think Gikyo probably could have ending cutscene in among the mist where they are offscreen and they just talking to one of their subordinate in their office about the rebel present in Mistwood

[regal spire]

I personally believe that Fruma could have more content forever and ever, and I’d still be AFK in Espren, instead of leveling my char

[hybrid gazelle]

I think that would give the m a bit more screen time and charactertization

but not outright ruin their intital introduction

I think their current introduction is most perfect that they could ask for

but I thnk they should have mini cutscene that allude to their prsence

similar to Zhiraok and Two cutscene from The Cursed one

[regal spire]

Theory time: do you think Wastelands will proceed the Mistwoods, precede them, or coincide within the same storyline

[hybrid gazelle]

also I think Hyloch in Overture to Despair could use have addition

maybe have Sui and us try to evade the patrolling guards

[neat oriole]

it'll be seavale v3 and we search for clues about past civilisation

[hybrid gazelle]

I think that could be cool to the crown more focus detecting the rebels

and give us agency to find hotel

[frozen turtle]

i need a cutscene in revelations in fall of them actually fighting Z cuz its not clear at all if they are fighting with us

[hybrid gazelle]

but yeah extra scene like that coudl be nice

[regal spire]

I would much prefer for towns to feel more oppressive than they do rn, especially in quests. There’s only really 2-3 quests that try to create that kind of atmosphere and tension

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah

IU think hyloch during overture should be more oppressive

and limited

[mossy badge]

I dont think it'll precede

[regal spire]

Torann might be the biggest flaw with its introduction, too

[frozen turtle]

Aldwell citzens just fall off the trees which i like

[regal spire]

I wish it was blocked off, until you went to Espren at least

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/frosherjosher-frosher-fall-off-chair-scared-fall-frightened-gif-27501835

[neat oriole]

walkingin aldwell without a medallion is like having a stink aura

[regal spire]

There’s just something off about massacring Torann’s military, but then you just waltz through it just fine

It needed that trailer cutscene, imo

Something to show what we did there

We have a good amount of telling, at least. I’m happy about that

[regal spire]

I’m actually of the opinion that the wastelands will stretch around the end of the Roughworks, and until the start of the highlands, maybe even coincide with them

[mossy badge]

I wonder how it'll start, like i cant think of much rn other than having the player break into deraj instead of the tribes, that won't feel like a random side quest 😭 , the freedom of fruma can wait we're doin side quests 🔥

[dim plover]

The Wastelands will be a bigger version of the several in-game resource mines where there will be massive clusters of every gathering material in the game

[sharp mango]

prof update

[mossy badge]

With pvp on 🔥

[dim plover]

Including the trees they’re all tiny so you don’t have to take ten years walking to each node anymore

[neat oriole]

with +100% gxp boost pls 🥺

and +50% gspeed 🥺

[sharp mango]

since deraj prison is there the profs will be like those prison servers where you mine endlesslu

[neat oriole]

pls ct not broken]

[sharp mango]

[neat oriole]

what if deraj was just eternal mining

and the gravity bit

was to pull more ores in for the prisoners to mine

[sharp mango]

and the reason why they delayed it is because there is a massive underground cavern

new corruption portal discovered

[neat oriole]

true

and then bak al comes out of it 😱

[mossy badge]

🙀

[neat oriole]

wait that's how the queen was planning to get tasim into dern

[sharp mango]

bakal wondering where his ex is (anatema)

[sick quest]

Lowkey they could loop in the void or the moon (eldritch places weve barely touched) to wastelands (fitting the gravity theme)

[mossy badge]

I have a theory that changelings are aliens

[sick quest]

Could be cool if the frumans were taking resources from the void or the moon and thats how their infrastructure is so developed

[sharp mango]

and the ones who wiped out the olm are changelings?

[mossy badge]

Wdym exactly

[dim plover]

To preserve the lore for Dernic materials appearing though they will all be placed in a secluded area in the Silent Expanse instead with a passage from the Wastalands leading to it

[sharp mango]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1430874202931728470/1494539975486738553/catdrool.gif

[regal spire]

I would play that lol

[sick quest]

Like the fact that there are canonically species both inside the wynncraft planet and on different planets is rly an untapped goldmine for lore

Especially lore that could be well-connected to the realms on influence

[dim plover]

Void probably won’t have anything tbh

Or at least anything usable

[sick quest]

Also its 5am here so o7

Gn

[frozen turtle]

there is a tower in sky islands which has someone who has control over gravity and takes you to the moon..

has oru been in the sky islands this entire time? is that why his bedtime is so strict cuz he has to keep moving between places?

[frozen turtle]

voidstone

[young dock]

https://tenor.com/view/jump-explode-jumplode-gif-8307442609233335658

Type of shit we’re going to do to start the deraj quest

[limber swan]

I think the OG plan was probably to just break through the gate

not confirmed

just what I think

probably got changed because it would be pretty boring if we just broke through the gate

going through the Ragni Outskirts is way more interesting

[narrow kestrel]

im loving zhiraok's obsession with math

[limber swan]

fun fact I had a theory before Fruma came out that we would enter Fruma through the outskirts

[narrow kestrel]

wonder if this ever gets brought up lmfao

[limber swan]

god I was so excited when I found out I was right

[young dock]

One of my favorite tropes in any source is when the beginning level gets remixed into something much harder towards the end

[limber swan]

yeah you can tell he went to the university

bro must have had waaaaay better parents than Gale did

[limber swan]

dude he looks like he shaved

[regal spire]

TotK ahh expansion

[dim plover]

Not particularly useful to them though I assume

[limber swan]

||she was the second scion after Bak'al, not sure if Bak'al ended up becoming a Sovereign though||

[split night]

All documented case of Villager's racism

[mossy badge]

W thread

[split night]

im going around Gavel to catch these racist like I catch pokemon

btw where is gale in qira hive

i did all of the secret

nvm

i found her

[dim plover]

Hi I time traveled from 2015 is the Province of Dern (The blackened out area at the bottom-right of the map) out yet

[split night]

btw guys

The song used in Wynnex Site B sound dangerously similar to the song used in the Outervoid

Does this mean Cosmic magic can possibly be originating from the Void?

[narrow kestrel]

WHYS SHE PISSING ON THE SAPLING

???

FRUMA GARDENERS ARE SO FUCKING WEIRD MAN

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[snow kiln]

Dern has actually already come out

Tho the scene with gay segs is paywalled sadly

Tho the orphion saph scene is 10/10

Is it really gay tho I'm not qualified to say.

[dim plover]

There are female characters in the game now?

Damn

That’s cool

That’s nice

[snow kiln]

No they're all men or non binary

[dim plover]

Oh ok

[snow kiln]

Keeping the consistency up

[dim plover]

(Breaking character here I have no idea why I read that as being only exclusive to female characters. You didn’t say lesbian

Like, is my mind too brainrotted from consuming yuri content)

[snow kiln]

Yeah I had no idea how you got that

Watch too much yuri

[proven ember]

Я не уверен, что музыка в таких старых ассетах стоит обсуждения в плане лора, но я всё же считаю, что нужно понимать, что такое пустота и где она?
Визуально пустота действительно имеет сходство с чем-то космическим, даже более того, мы можем найти в ней кристаллы согласно одному из квестов, однако нужно понимать, что всё-таки кристаллы пришли к нам с неба, как метеориты, поэтому я всё же считаю, что пустота это не что-то космическое явно.

[snow kiln]

Get on the yaoi train