📚lore_discussion

[frozen turtle]

every staff role is just CT

[midnight bison]

We need him on the team

Hire this man now

[neat heron]

nah dude

he IS the team

[midnight bison]

True

[frozen turtle]

all CT and at are fired

[midnight bison]

Theres different departments within ct

[frozen turtle]

but me

[neat heron]

@frozen turtle thoughts on making this micro transaction slop?

server into*

I am high

[midnight bison]

Ims, Ats, Gms, Builders, Composers, Modellers and so on

[mossy badge]

Where did u find ts btw? 😭 🙏

[midnight bison]

Anyways

Wastelands when

[frozen turtle]

yeah, raids can either be entered with ek runes or u can get a raid battlepass for free entry

[neat heron]

W

[midnight bison]

Wellspring of eternity is honestly a pretty nice place ngl

Really nice gardens there

[neat heron]

I thought of making the new ceo the palantir ceo but you honestly might be worse 🙏 🕊️

[edgy loom]

this sounds oddly ominous

[warm flicker]

THE OLM LORE

[midnight bison]

You can also get access to extra archetypes with the battlepass! Unlock an extra one every 10 tiers

[slender copper]

...they don't have a portrait?

[mossy badge]

🤔

[neat heron]

how about making extra ability points be p2w and make unban passes for 300 dollars

[frozen turtle]

so true, im also gonna put lootruns behind a battlepass, u can still do lootruns but there are no blue or grey beacons

[edgy loom]

bro played pirated wynn

[hybrid gazelle]

She literally said she got transfer when she has picnic with Elise

[midnight bison]

Gavel and Fruma should be unlocked at tier 50 of the premium battlepass

Costs 15 shares

[slender copper]

THEY HAVE A PORTRAIT!? When I played through the quest it was blank!!

[midnight bison]

1 Share for each tier skip

[mossy badge]

Skill issue

[slender copper]

Does someone have a screenshot of it?

[frozen turtle]

I also think double prof xp bombs should be per player as well so no one call leech

[edgy loom]

one sec

[frozen turtle]

champion bomb bell will still run just so they know who has a bomb

[edgy loom]

we are allowed to share files from the resource pack right?

[slender copper]

||Yeah definitely changeling vibes with that smile,|| so weird that it... never showed up in my first playthrough. I think I have his empty portrait in my screenshots.

[mossy badge]

Ye, love it

[clear scaffold]

tbf mistwoods half the characters i was like "changeling level of creepy"

[dry drift]

whtaever tf i am

[midnight bison]

Uhhh

You're a

[hybrid gazelle]

also here more stuff

[slender copper]

Imagine playing through Wynncraft and this is all you see 😭

[edgy loom]

I hope oru's actual portrait looks as shell shocked as the cat

[midnight bison]

https://tenor.com/view/animals-with-captions-yess-yess-splendid-yes-yes-splendid-yes-yes-soft-rotund-speciment-gif-25121839

[split night]

sodium extra let your remove this specific fog

[edgy loom]

there's gotta be a reason why they used a cat for oru's placeholder

like, I'm sure that goofy ass cat is some sort of inside joke

but it's also possible oru specifically reminded them of a fuckass cat

what secrets does the cat hide

[mossy badge]

(they meant the missing portrait)

[mossy badge]

Cuz its gorgeous

[summer bluff]

Kinda a cutie patootie

[snow kiln]

Wait does his eye patch switch between eyes lmfao

That's hilarious

[slim belfry]

nah those are mirrored portrait variants every sheet has one

[frozen turtle]

i think it would be funny if it did switch ngl

[spring kernel]

the cat was the placeholder for all of them

before they got their own individual portraits

[hot timber]

everyone who ever lived in gavel (including colossi, excluding orphion) vs everyone who ever lived in fruma (including anathema) who wins

[mossy badge]

Prolly frumans, especially since we're including anathema (we also dont have much lore on ancient gavellians)

[dim plover]

I wonder how they're going to justify the events of Apotheosis with the Tasim alt route

Mind control seems like a lazy option so I don't think they'll do that

[clear scaffold]

i would like to point out that aledar's death with the player wasn't the only reason tasim did it

like tasim did genuinely think it was the right thing

[frozen turtle]

also depends how much they will deviate the story too

[clear scaffold]

all not telling tasim did is just get him angry at the player to an extreme

[dim plover]

I'm like, lowkey considering just doing Fruma on one class

[frozen turtle]

i think th eeasier route is to have Her Majesty shown to manipulate him

[dim plover]

But I'm going to hold out until Tasim's alt route is added in

[frozen turtle]

cuz she kinda already did

[clear scaffold]

i think people are overestimating the changes tasim's alt route will do

it's more likely gonna just be tasim has less reasons to be angry with the player

[frozen turtle]

probably will only change like, queens recruit start and dialogue when Tasim interacts

[dim plover]

Chances are it won't but I hate how bs the normal route is that I genuinely never want to do it again

[frozen turtle]

with us

[clear scaffold]

the bs isn't even that bad.

it's literally only queen's recruit

[dim plover]

Yeah that

[frozen turtle]

its more annoying that it has the option but we just cant tell him

[spring kernel]

Tasim already has his reasons

[clear scaffold]

to be fair an argument could be made you did just kinda kill his best friend

[frozen turtle]

"best friends"

I mean if Tasim knew the context i doubt he'd be as mad

[clear scaffold]

i would like to point out those two had more adventures together mentioned in festival dialogue.

[frozen turtle]

but still kinda mad

[clear scaffold]

probably mad at aledar for considering killing the player

[dim plover]

I already hate the trope of withholding important plot-changing information until it's too late and the trope of being interrupted whenever a character tries to divulge said information

And then Wynncraft decides to take both of them, put them into the game where the character with said information is a player that you can actively control and go "uh no you don't have any control over this actually too bad you can't tell him"

[clear scaffold]

mad at the player for actually killing aledar

[mossy badge]

Still only know each other for less than a year 🔥

[clear scaffold]

and? friendships can work like that

[frozen turtle]

at the very least they should've just removed that dialogue "option"

idk why they've even delayed it cause i doubt its that big of a change unless they want players to replay it?

it seems like a very weird choice as of now

cause it just makes the rest of the quests quality just slightly worse

[mossy badge]

Its just unfinished

The alt route dialogue was literally only written for queen's recruit

[frozen turtle]

how much work is it though, cuz i'd assume it would've just been a few dialogue changes

unless its not

[clear scaffold]

probably goes in to the quests where tasim is actively there though

[mossy badge]

I mean it prolly is

But there might be more important stuff for ct idk

[frozen turtle]

i mean how many quests even are there tasim is in

[clear scaffold]

5 i believe?

[frozen turtle]

queens, 1 industrial, 1 aldwell and like 1-2 hylock/alemenia idk

so yeah 5

[clear scaffold]

and a few would involve talking about aledar

[frozen turtle]

industrial and aldwell is just him warning us

and the warnings do absolutely nothing as well

[clear scaffold]

because we don't listen

[frozen turtle]

the industrial we hear it but the plan is already started

and aldwell by that point it was already captured by changelings

[dim plover]

How long has Fruma been out on live

Like a month or smth?

[frozen turtle]

like tasim, start warning us earlier mate

[frozen turtle]

soudns about right

[dim plover]

(The Tasim alt route is going to change the events of all the quests that's why it's taking so long to come out trust me)

[spring kernel]

a month and a day

[frozen turtle]

(It's going to DOUBLE the amount of quests actually)

[dim plover]

(Tasim is going to join the Leaves in the Wind and then the quests are all going to change)

[frozen turtle]

(and once u complete one you can mind wipe and do the other one)

[dim plover]

(Syndra survives because Tasim was there to help)

(There is no Tasim fight we just duo-battle the Queen)

(Unfortunately because of this Tasim loses an arm in the process)

[frozen turtle]

(Rex joins us in Raid, making two different WTP players can do)

[clear scaffold]

honestly... i'm kinda surprised how fruma actually makes the player feel like they're not the only one doing anything

like it's the only questline where the player does feel like they're just a strong fighter but not the only one

[frozen turtle]

except that one industrial quest where you do everyones job for them

[clear scaffold]

the entire apoptheosis really gives me hope they make singleplayer raids with NPC's

[mossy badge]

Not having actual allies 99% of times kinda ruins it for me lol

(in actual fights)

[clear scaffold]

i think the reason is just it's hell to make it happen

[frozen turtle]

Zhiraok is the only bad example of that imo

Majin was cuz we get teleported away

Gikyo, sui is understandbly mourning

[clear scaffold]

the only actual smart Allie AI i know is tasim in the nivla forest quest

[frozen turtle]

but Zhiraok, the entire leaves / sui & yusmth just dont do anyhting

[clear scaffold]

who will help you against the giant with using actual warrior spells

[frozen turtle]

i think its more, give the npc's smth else to do

have them fight their own boss

[mossy badge]

Also in apotheosis going through hyloch for example

[frozen turtle]

or be busy

[clear scaffold]

to be fair you do watch each one actually kinda destroy in fights

they should really improve ally AI in some cases though

[frozen turtle]

each character aurafarms once then becomes useless

[mossy badge]

Smh

[clear scaffold]

i feel like it's a game design issue tbh

like name one time before revamped where allies didn't just move to the mob and hit them

(and arguably do more harm than good)

[mossy badge]

Lowk would be better than nothing

lol

[frozen turtle]

i think they should just give the Allies something else to do when ur doing big crazy stuff

[clear scaffold]

i love getting a mob punched in to my face

[dim plover]

Actually wait what was the player's reasoning for breaking into Fruma anyway

was it to see Tasim again? I feel like that might be it

[clear scaffold]

tasim yeah

[dim plover]

Although my headcanon reason is that the player's just goofy that way

[frozen turtle]

we love tasim

[dim plover]

They like breaking into places

[frozen turtle]

i think the player just got petty they got kicked out ngl

[dim plover]

They go "omg Fruma new region new stuff to find" and then decided that we need in

[frozen turtle]

and decided to commit war crimes in retaliation for not getting the final touranment

[clear scaffold]

would like to point out end of apoptheosis one of the dialogue options is the player saying to tasim they finally found their friend

which really says a lot about why the player was so stubborn about fruma

[mossy badge]

There's also a dialogue option which is literally "im looking for some1"

I think

[clear scaffold]

nah that's with the leaves.

[frozen turtle]

we do say that to the leaves

[mossy badge]

Ok?

[clear scaffold]

the player does say it to tasim though

[frozen turtle]

no like

[clear scaffold]

like an outright even when fighting tasim, the player was looking for the real him

[frozen turtle]

we say "i'm looking for someone" when someone asks us what we're doing in Fruma

[mossy badge]

Ye.. ?

[frozen turtle]

idk when but i remember that

[clear scaffold]

honestly though i think that's the only time the player has real motivations

like the rest it's just "the player's there" or why not follow

fruma's the first time the player wants something genuine

[frozen turtle]

the player just does whatever is thrown at them

more npc like then a npc

[mossy badge]

lol

[clear scaffold]

makes me like fruma so much when the player has their own thoughts

still wish i could answer sovereign two's question on doing what's needed

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah Fruma is few time players have a long active goal

which is to find Tasim

[frozen turtle]

i think if the spies did a good job, they would've realised the player would've just done anything asked of them lowkey

[hybrid gazelle]

and rather change to overthrown the crown for the rebel

[clear scaffold]

i'll be honest

[hybrid gazelle]

they wont

[clear scaffold]

i have a feeling revamps are gonna change this

[hybrid gazelle]

the crown is far too suspicious to be trusted by the player

[clear scaffold]

i think the plan is give the players more motivations

like instead of "do what's ordered" the player will at least have a personality via dialogue choices.

[frozen turtle]

the player has done all sorts of things for way more suspicious people

worid moment

[hybrid gazelle]

Worid is juyst light scammer

why are you comparing to like

funny scammer to literal fascist empire

that like

different level

[frozen turtle]

im just saying that

before the player learns anything

queen could've easily just told player to do smth, maybe lie a lil

[hybrid gazelle]

Beside that like jungl quest

we can just take it out of equation

nothing matter in jungle area

[clear scaffold]

i believe the queen saw the player as volatile

[frozen turtle]

galleon dungeon quest

[clear scaffold]

probably due to the entire light forest stuff

[hybrid gazelle]

That too

Again as we see

The queen hate chaos

Player is u controllable factor

[frozen turtle]

we're mainly chaotic cause we just do whatever ppl tell us to do, so if ur telling us what to do its fairly controllable

[clear scaffold]

i bet they'll change that in later revamps

[frozen turtle]

i bet they will tho

yeah

eventually we may get a bit more motivaiton

[clear scaffold]

make the player less stupid in some cases. Probably change AJF/AJB to make it more emotional

aledar's still gonna die but the player might care more about everyone

[frozen turtle]

would also be nice if we had more time with the characters going into AJF

[mossy badge]

Nothing's gonna make me care about lucio 😹 ✌️

[hybrid gazelle]

Yeah player deifnitely will have more motivation as quest getting remake

to be less stupid

[clear scaffold]

lucio at least had the best death

[hybrid gazelle]

bcause like

fruma sidequest

[clear scaffold]

i just want more quests to have dialogue options

[hybrid gazelle]

tehre literally barely any quest where player just do thing BECAUSE

[clear scaffold]

i love it when i can pick what the player says

[hybrid gazelle]

so future quest remake likely will follow similar idea

[frozen turtle]

true, cuz i think once we get to Fruma its established we kinda care about the people there already somewhat

so doing hte dam quest and such

makes sense

the hot springs quest is a bit funky but its cute

[hybrid gazelle]

it really not it just

playe helping out people

eitherfor moeny or good nature

it really does not matter

[frozen turtle]

i hated "Only the strong survive" cuz i kept insulting arnol cuz he pmo but they insisted we were like besties

[mossy badge]

real

Prolly most hated quest

In fruma

[young dock]

Things we did in Fruma:

Corner raccoons
Chapter 6 of the thousand year door
Clean a hotspring

[clear scaffold]

i wish i named myself cursed in that quest

[frozen turtle]

interesting premise but i hate arnol

[mossy badge]

U don't 💀 🔥

https://tenor.com/view/bow-arrows-shoot-hit-gif-12968662

[clear scaffold]

but difficulty is fun

[frozen turtle]

bro i'd name myself Cursed if i dont have to talk to Arnol again

[copper breach]

Are zhiroak and gale related?

[mossy badge]

Ye

[frozen turtle]

yeah, come from the same house/family Nasin

[copper breach]

Gale was exiled?

[mossy badge]

No

She wanted out

[clear scaffold]

i thought gale just ran away xD

[mossy badge]

She escaped

[clear scaffold]

gale defintely would be besties with the player

finding out the entire fruma stunt

[copper breach]

When did they just make this connection?

[hybrid gazelle]

well Gale exile herself

[copper breach]

When qira hive was added?

[hybrid gazelle]

Crest of Highland

and Gale's bow has Blue Cyclone

Also Gale just look

very odd from the rest of the world

she is for sure not corkian

she does not feel wynnic

she does not even react coming to Wynn like she came back home

[mossy badge]

Long ago

[hybrid gazelle]

it almost like she does not fit anywhere

to by process of elimiation

[copper breach]

Kinda like rex's bow

[hybrid gazelle]

Fruma is the most likely case of where she came from

but we did not know that

[young dock]

she does not like the corkian comparison

[subtle spruce]

Bro that's just pure athlete style

[hybrid gazelle]

?

[subtle spruce]

Mechanism

[hybrid gazelle]

you mean the gear?

[subtle spruce]

Wut

[hybrid gazelle]

IDK what are you talking about

or how like this has to do with the topic

[dim plover]

I will never forget the moment that Xao introduced Zhiraok

Not because of the cutscene itself but because of the fact that Xao called him by his full name

The moment he said Zhiraok Nasin my brain just instantly triggered

[mossy badge]

Some1 thought xao was "sovereign harold" 😭 🙏 that shit fried me

[mossy badge]

Same

[paper wyvern]

Dont complain about the bow design realism, dont complain about the bow design realism

[dim plover]

“Oh you pieces of ass

I see you Wynncraft I see what you’re doing”

[edgy loom]

I wonder if fruma was made with the idea that players would know of gale and the nasin name

cuz I had no idea gale even had a last name

[mossy badge]

I mean 95% of players prolly dont/forgot

I knew it personally

[edgy loom]

you could tell me her grave was retconned in fruma to have "nasin" and I'd believe it

[paper wyvern]

its a really hidden secret area that most players wouldnt find and fewer even would remember

[dim plover]

It’s really only a reward for people who actually know Hive lore

Like me

Well, “Hive lore” as in what there is to know

[polar vine]

five lins of tekst

[dim plover]

If the Hive Drabbles Golemlus excerpt is still canon I struggle to picture how Qira can exist in Fruma

[young dock]

rewarded those who explore corners

[mossy badge]

Do u know the lore of the shell shocked warrior 🔥

[dim plover]

Like, I feel like her being an ex-human seems too simple

(Tbh it would be cool if she originated from Dern)

But like, the Golemlus story kinda heavily implied that she lived there so like

[mossy badge]

Whats the Hive Drabbles Golemlus excerpt

[dim plover]

What the hell does it mean

[dim plover]

If you were to take this as canon, anyway

It’s out-of-game reading content so I understand if some players do not

[mossy badge]

Oh

[cedar badger]

what is up with our reflections

[dim plover]

But the direct implication is that Qira, Gale and Ohms were a trio that lived somewhere in the past and tried to escape (and succeeded)

With Fruma lore out the context of this Golemlus story implies that said somewhere was Fruma

[cedar badger]

am i crazy for connecting them to the guardians of the forest explanation of planes of existance?

[mossy badge]

We're a vampire 🥀

[mossy badge]

How are u connecting them?

[cedar badger]

our reflection in realm of light is a creature of darkness

it actively stops the monoliths from shining light

everything is mirrored, there has to be balance

since there is a darkness version, there should a light one

[paper wyvern]

maybe we see a light reflection in dern

[mystic fulcrum]

Maybe player is actually a creature from realm of war

[mossy badge]

Wtf is this 😭

[cedar badger]

yeah thats what im thinking

[slim belfry]

idk about that but I think there's something very concerning about that

[dim plover]

It’s one of the Hive Drabbles stories

[buoyant depot]

hive golemus drabbles

[slim belfry]

there's someone that knows what's inside the emptiness in the player

[cedar badger]

i think we are realm of war, one of our relections is of darkness

[cedar badger]

tahts actually

kinda good

but it didnt feel like it was light

why do we not have an actual light side as a player

is it dead

are we just meant to be of war and darkness

[paper wyvern]

wait for the revamp of ajb

[slim belfry]

the reflection in the monolith in RoL is a "distorted" version of the player soul btw

they have the same model

[paper wyvern]

yeah its very different from the actual player soul in point of no return

[mossy badge]

Ye i think every1's soul is portrayed as black

[mystic fulcrum]

Do documents at fort heaga mentioned an ancient lifeform discovered during project hollow ground?

[cedar badger]

wgats ahjb

ajb

am i stupid

[paper wyvern]

a journey beyond

[mossy badge]

It might be nifilis

[cedar badger]

oh

[slim belfry]

for reference

[paper wyvern]

they are gonna revamp the "light element" thing at some point

[mystic fulcrum]

But that reflection is dark skin covered a bright internal

[mossy badge]

Who could it be 🤔

[cedar badger]

I have not gotten to fruma yet to be fair

its just

[mystic fulcrum]

Orphion

[paper wyvern]

dont forget "It is. But it is also not. There was something here, once - you have caught glimpses of it before... but no longer."

"You feel a deep, deep loss. Pain, anger, desperation, regret - and not all of it your own. A weight of something you cannot comprehend, cannot know."

[slim belfry]

yeah it's really strange

[paper wyvern]

"and not all of it your own"

[cedar badger]

okay i gotta peace of out of here lmao this might incluence my current interpretation lmao

[mystic fulcrum]

So player is probably the ancient lifeform discovered during project hollow ground

[cedar badger]

guys have fun with the shadows

and refelecitons

[mossy badge]

Uh wat

[slim belfry]

changeling player theory

[paper wyvern]

Theres also the single mention of item lore of twilgiht

[mystic fulcrum]

But still try to connect this with anathema post raid dialogue

Since it says familiar spark

[hybrid gazelle]

twilight is outdated lore

like

that the only item that mention it

and that item is old as fuck

so no

[mossy badge]

I mean that could be any god she knew about

[paper wyvern]

im not saying that directly its twilight but a similar idea

[hybrid gazelle]

changeling player hteory but GIkyo is a fucking dumbass so they cant recongize their own kind

[paper wyvern]

the player as old fruman god theory

[mossy badge]

We're charizard 🗣️

[slim belfry]

the only real thing I believe is player world connection theory

[hybrid gazelle]

The player is random bullshit theory

[slim belfry]

TRUE

[mossy badge]

Same

[paper wyvern]

the player is the friends we made along the way and was never real theory

[mystic fulcrum]

Too little information

[mossy badge]

The player is.. wonncraft has shit lore theory 🤯 🤯

[slim belfry]

we are charlie curx?

[hybrid gazelle]

MEET THE POTENTIAL THEORY

"What if player is Changeling"
"What if player is god"
"What if player is soverign"

Only if and never elborate how this change and impact the lore other than the surpirse factor

[paper wyvern]

lmao so true

[mossy badge]

Charlie curx 😭 🙏

@glass summit

[cedar badger]

We gotta kill the friends tho

Fuck them friends 🥀

[paper wyvern]

sorry the player is the friends we killed along the way theory

[slim belfry]

it's okay they have the right as the child of death

[paper wyvern]

player is realm beast of physical plane at least brings higher stakes

[cedar badger]

I think the player was all in le head

[slim belfry]

le head?

[mystic fulcrum]

Do fruma quests fully ignore where bob currently at?

[mossy badge]

Le fish

[slim belfry]

head with money?

liquid em?

[hybrid gazelle]

why woul Fruma acknowledge Bob

like

[mossy badge]

Ig

[hybrid gazelle]

waht one point Bob can be mention 😭

Sui: Oh hey player, do you know the legendary of Wynn, Bob the hero? (Said it with his face icon next to his name)

[mystic fulcrum]

During the talk with two and Majin at his house

[cedar badger]

Bob is so fucking confusing

[hybrid gazelle]

Bob likely just

[paper wyvern]

LE doesnt have a head it has a cork

[hybrid gazelle]

in limboor osmething

I dont think inquistors know that Bob gone to Dern

consdier they are not impotence

[cedar badger]

Bob importance chart is just a sinusoid

[paper wyvern]

bob is presumably inside dern through gateway island backdoor and wont be relevant until wynn revamp and dern

[hybrid gazelle]

Bob is problematic theory

he put mooington in prison

[cedar badger]

He goes from being the least important mf ever to being the hero of the entire world to not doing anything ever to saving orphans from a burning hospital in the span of 4 quests

[hybrid gazelle]

leave his sheep pet to cultists

and have cluckle live a guy who literally see chicken as his own wife

[slim belfry]

yeah wtf bob

[hybrid gazelle]

AND THEN

EXPECT ALL OF THEM BE MURDER BY A RANDOM STRANGER

[mossy badge]

Robert robert smh

[hybrid gazelle]

CLUCKLE IS NOT EVEN FULLY GROWN

BOB IS A FUCKING PSYCHOPATH

[slim belfry]

pretty dark of bob to do that

[cedar badger]

To be fair bob was never like a good dude he just kinda learned 5 weapons and killed shit that was trying to kill it

[slim belfry]

heh

dark

[paper wyvern]

in his defense all of the animals ended up in those locations after he dissapeared

[cedar badger]

The Bob debunk of 2026

[hybrid gazelle]

"Never like a good dude"

have you fucking see all his content

geniunely wtf you talking about

[cedar badger]

It’s very funny because if you don’t branch out from the storyline quests

He really is a side character

[paper wyvern]

skiens island was still ok, nohno wasnt insane yet, and idk about the shep

[hybrid gazelle]

No he TOLD Nilrem to scatter his naimal friend or something

Oh wait

let me check when he disappear

cause Nohno probably insane by then

[mossy badge]

Nilrem's fault! Nilrem's fault ‼️

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah it's 985 AP

Nohno already insane

Skien island probably gone crazy

[slim belfry]

who even is nilrem we never see him

[hybrid gazelle]

so wtf was Bob doing

[paper wyvern]

oh I thoguht it was 965

[hybrid gazelle]

it's 984 AP

I mistype

[mossy badge]

A mage and friend of bob or smth

[cedar badger]

I think it’s a secret discovery exclusive

[slim belfry]

yeah I read the letters

[hybrid gazelle]

IDK how do you even justify Bob imbuing his power onto his animals friend

literally like

this is such a nothing lore

this is

SUCH A NOTHING LORE

it only exist for fetch quest

rekmove it PLEASE

[paper wyvern]

and also nilrem is the one who scattered the animal so its his fault he gave cluckles to an insnane chicken lover

[cedar badger]

I think you gotta take a breather man

[mystic fulcrum]

Rol also need rework

[mossy badge]

Everything needs a rework

🤯

[cedar badger]

Cmon

[hybrid gazelle]

Nilrem been nothing character

[cedar badger]

RoL is not even that bad

[paper wyvern]

nilrem is highly problematic

[hybrid gazelle]

to the point that I have turn him into my own OC

[cedar badger]

Compare it to WynnExcavation

[hybrid gazelle]

can we talk about how

[paper wyvern]

what do you mean he put a sheep in jail with a bunch of cultits

[hybrid gazelle]

Nilrem decide that he should construct Bob tomb

in fuck off nowhere

not even in Ragni

not even his birthplace

it's in Nesaak

like what

why

this shit is like

you dying of cancer

[mystic fulcrum]

Bob is as strong as Lari

[hybrid gazelle]

and then your homie say "dont worry bro I set up your funeral"

and your funeral is set up in some fuck off nowhere in Utah

like

why

[cedar badger]

you get buried in Arkansas 🥀

[mossy badge]

Wolves

[hybrid gazelle]

Bro imagine like

having your bury site being the place you die

[cedar badger]

Oh yeah the leading theory is he got killed by wolf

So

[hybrid gazelle]

like imagine die in car crash

[cedar badger]

Nessak grave because that’s where he died

[hybrid gazelle]

so you get bury to some random ass neighbourhood 😭

[vestal rivet]

buried in Alaska

[hybrid gazelle]

that still make 0 fucking senese

you dont get bury where you die

that like

[vestal rivet]

despite being native to Florida

[hybrid gazelle]

OH NO I KILLED A ROBBER IN SELF DEFENSE IN MY HOME

I guess his funeral is now happpen in my house

Bury that sucker right in

[mystic fulcrum]

Might as well add festival of bob and there will be a person pretend to be bob and player go adventure with him

[cedar badger]

Robber gotta be buried under the kitchen table

I don’t make the rules

[hybrid gazelle]

Wynncraft is truly an unhinge world

according to Bob quest

[vestal rivet]

cremate the robber and use the ashes as kitty litter

[hybrid gazelle]

it's a pratice where people buryt where the ydie

[cedar badger]

Oh so a grave in a wrong spot is what brought you to that conclusion 😭

[hybrid gazelle]

okay but ti like

an ENTIRE TOMB

[cedar badger]

Robber gotta stay in the house

One way on another

[hybrid gazelle]

I love how we dont even see monument of Bob anywhere too

like people of WYnn just do not give a fuck

honestly I Guess they are just okay like that

[vestal rivet]

old builders did not

[slim belfry]

Tracking Quest

[hybrid gazelle]

I think closet thing is that

random ass tower in Nivla

WHICH THEN AGAIN

IN RANDOM ASS NOWHERE

wtf with wynn people making site of respect to Bob in middle of nowhere

is there brain virus in this world?

[vestal rivet]

at the very least it's where Bob whooped Bak'al and stopped the advance on Ragni

[cedar badger]

I think the map was built way before anyone had the idea to make Bob important

[hybrid gazelle]

is this a disease thing or cultural thing I do not know

[slim belfry]

old CT had too much power

[mystic fulcrum]

They might redo the quest after Wynn reborn

[hybrid gazelle]

We aint getting wynn reborn

we never getting wynn reborn

most likely case is Wynn getting grandually change each major update

[split night]

I find it so WEIRD that they didn't build it in Ragni or Detlas

[cedar badger]

From my playthrough Bob is just such a pain because once again, he is irrelevant for so fucking long and then he is imporant all of a sudden

[split night]

his grave could have been here

like it would make so much sense for popular city to have his grave

[hybrid gazelle]

Ragni striaght up DO NOT give a fuck

[split night]

huh??
I learn about bob's importance through secret discoveries like in my first hour on wynn

xd

[cinder cedar]

there should te a statue of Bob in either Ragni or Detlas

[subtle spruce]

"Grave for his mom, that should be enough, we got a castle to build"

[hybrid gazelle]

Ragni is most likely case

[split night]

he was important throughout the story

[hybrid gazelle]

Ragni is literally place where he born

[vestal rivet]

Bob is only in secret discoveries for a while right?

[hybrid gazelle]

he live there

[vestal rivet]

Bob lived in a shack outside of Ragni iirc

[cedar badger]

Yeah secret discoveries, if you follow quests or even more probable: follow storyline quests he legit appears only at like lvl 50

[mossy badge]

"Strong guy defeats corrupted" wow so important

[vestal rivet]

with his adopted mom

[split night]

for like, at least 20 years

[cedar badger]

Yeah

[hybrid gazelle]

he still Ragni citizens LOL

he literally WORK THERE

as a child

[split night]

He fucking soloed an Annie 😭

[cinder cedar]

he was 14 when he had to leave Ragni

[split night]

while we canonically required an army to deal with it

[cinder cedar]

I forgot but dude was a very young teen

[cedar badger]

Bakal first encounter is Realm of Light if you don’t count secret discovers

[mossy badge]

Not much important in the throughout lore, his dern stuff is tho

[hybrid gazelle]

ROL will get rework later

[split night]

yeah? he came back to it and live here to protect for a while before depart to dern

[hybrid gazelle]

I CANT WAIT

https://gif.fxtwitter.com/tweet_video/HHZxKVQWsAAhySy.webp

ROL REWORK

[vestal rivet]

I hadn't done them and had 0 clue who this guy was at first

[split night]

how long is this gonna take to come

is this confirm

[hybrid gazelle]

50 years

[cedar badger]

Secrect discoveries feel like patches to make the story feel coherent at all

[cinder cedar]

yea fair enough, the statue should be in Ragni then

[vestal rivet]

just some random corruption man showing up out of nowhere in RoL5 for me lol

[paper wyvern]

yeah I could do that too if I had a decent build

[slim belfry]

my first encounter was his plushie 😭

[cedar badger]

Yeah same, I’m doing secret discovers last, so it’s so weird, like Bob is also just fucking nobody 😭😭😭

[vestal rivet]

there's a plushie?

[split night]

I love Content Progress order
Wynn story make so much sense for my first time playing Wynn because i did all of my secret discoveries along side the quests

[paper wyvern]

bob has 2 quests

[mossy badge]

This festival ye

[paper wyvern]

the tomb and reincarnation

and thats it

[vestal rivet]

oh cool

[split night]

I was so hyped fighting even a projection of Bob in the tomb quest xd

[cedar badger]

Is there like a list of what level should which secret discovery be done

[vestal rivet]

the discoveries are kinda hard to track without wynntils just telling you where they are

[paper wyvern]

dude should fucking haunt the narrative not be an offhand mention in 3 places

[mystic fulcrum]

Wynn reborn, corkus reborn, sky island reborn, ocean reborn, realm of Dern takes 25 years in total

[mossy badge]

125 years lets be realistic

[mossy badge]

Explore 🤯

[hybrid gazelle]

I rathern ot have gavel reborn update

like not have it again

[subtle spruce]

Might as well turn secret discoveries into mini quest

[split night]

they start at ragni secret library at lv 1??
you can just use Content Progress Order in your quest book for a coherent story because it will sort the secret discoveries before or along side the quest if relevant

[hybrid gazelle]

just make it grandual change please

[vestal rivet]

takes a while in the less dense regions that aren't Fruma

[hybrid gazelle]

I take lootrun update kinda of quest compare to Gavel reborn anyday

[slim belfry]

eye of the storm 2

[vestal rivet]

and new players won't usually know to care

[cedar badger]

The Wynncraft video script is 30k words and I’ve not even began doing secret discovers or Fruma 🥀

[paper wyvern]

yeah I think they should slowly revamp wynn over time while working on other things

[mossy badge]

Eh ig

[hybrid gazelle]

Gavel reborn writers making vilalgers only character trait is being racist

[mystic fulcrum]

And cosmic update add the story of drale and aliens take another 5 years

[hybrid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/fire-writing-gif-24533171

[slim belfry]

GOSH DOING THE SDs MADE ME HATE VILLAGERS

[split night]

"you small-nose people"

[paper wyvern]

you say that like og gavel writers didnt give the villagers the only trait of greedy

[cedar badger]

Well it’s kinda hard if I went into Wynncraft blind and now I’m level 100

[vestal rivet]

there's not really a point that players are formally introduced to secret discoveries proper unless you count the stairs key thing, which displays as a cave or hidden boss or whatever instead for some reason

[mossy badge]

🤔

[hybrid gazelle]

Well they are NOW racist and greedy

[cedar badger]

But I still wanna connect it well

[paper wyvern]

which was probably more problematic

[vestal rivet]

even if it counts as a SD in the content book?

[paper wyvern]

but also at least fit the lore better

[slim belfry]

made past tense I don't mind villagers

[mystic fulcrum]

It took me over 150 hours to discover my first secret discovery

[mossy badge]

Damn

[subtle spruce]

Might as well create new slot, lv max then do the quest all over again lul

[vestal rivet]

I thought that some of the Gavelian Villagers being racist to me was funny

[split night]

start a new class and erase your memory i guess?
it actually feels so great that i did all of the secret discovories related to a quest or story of a region before actually starting that quest first xd

[unique jungle]

realism

[split night]

i still have a vivid memory of how to do most of the SDs

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/speed-ishowspeed-speed-stream-ishowspeed-stream-speed-nod-gif-1082323842437565509

[subtle spruce]

They are all racist... 😭

[vestal rivet]

some more than others

[mossy badge]

I also do but that might be cuz i did them like 7 times

[unique jungle]

the emerald merchants have done nothing to me

[split night]

Not my goat Seaskipper and Ragni King dude, I love them

[cedar badger]

I don’t have another 5 months of my life 😭 this server got me into a deeper dive then it ever should have in the first place

[subtle spruce]

WE also went racist in masterpiece 💀

[paper wyvern]

I think outside of orc war (which should really get a revamp) villager racism should be toned down a bit

[mossy badge]

W player

[unique jungle]

masterpiece? like the painting quest?

[cedar badger]

It takes so long to play this if you’re scripting in between major events

[split night]

you have a job??
i did all of this in like, just a month xd

[mossy badge]

Ye

[subtle spruce]

Yeh

[unique jungle]

https://tenor.com/view/race-car-peugeot-meme-racist-mode-gif-23410462

[cedar badger]

Yeah but mostly trying to script and make sense of it in between

[slim belfry]

crazy how many types of beings villagers had beef with

[mossy badge]

Unemployed realizes ppl have j*bs 🥀

[mystic fulcrum]

Sea skipper might be brother of ragni king, and he end up got a small boat

[split night]

I'm still in university entrance exam period so like
im getting here, i mean i had a job before but i gotta focus on studying xd

[subtle spruce]

Elf, orc, human, uh... idk about dwarv

[split night]

might as well just throw in Doguns in here because the propaganda worked

[slim belfry]

dwarves got pushed out of homes by villagers so by extension doguns too

[unique jungle]

we can say dwarves are on the list

what about those random guys north of cinfras or whatever nobody talks about

gerts?

[hybrid gazelle]

if you think about it

[slim belfry]

also sky raiders

[hybrid gazelle]

Gavel is basically "So retro" but for fantasy

"SO FANTASY"
and it just dwarves and elves

[unique jungle]

and like surely dragons they gotta have some beef with

[subtle spruce]

Didn't they just occupy?

[split night]

Gerts are actually just villagers that got warped by a meteor
so like, this is not even speciesist, it's actual racism xd

[slim belfry]

ahmsord was a skyraider place until villagers took it

[unique jungle]

tbf weve been using racism not speciesism

[split night]

oh yeah they also are racist against the Amazonian skyraiders

or mitosis lesbian Skyraiders depend on what theory you believe in

[slim belfry]

TRUE

[unique jungle]

why not both

[subtle spruce]

We need a long section of Hunter Calling for llevigar...

[split night]

I love the fact that Fruma feel so much more whimsical to me

Gavel was a bit weird for me first time playthrough

I also frequent around Bucie for some reason

[cedar badger]

As a side note, I love how in Aldoreis secret, one elder is legit named Prometheus, he interferes with gods and has parrarels to mythology and the wiki doesn’t say shit about it and then says “Amber might a reference to Genshin Impact”

[unique jungle]

bucie lowkey goated

[slim belfry]

LOL

[unique jungle]

gavel is like "do you want a colorful forest? get it! giant tree? get it! the emerald city from the wizard of oz? get it!"

[split night]

highkey underrated honestly

[cedar badger]

I cried when I saw that shit

[unique jungle]

best city lowkey

[cedar badger]

It’s so funny

[split night]

wait until you realize that city is made out of combustible material

[slim belfry]

the wiki really needs work

https://wynncraft.wiki.gg/wiki/Infection_Ad_Infinitum

[unique jungle]

fr isnt quartz explosive

[split night]

I actually find it funny that we might as well compare Llevigar to a city made out of Sodium

[cedar badger]

Fire

[unique jungle]

genuine peak
this is why publicly editable wikis are amazing

[split night]

yeah it is, it's reactive to anything that have mana/magic in them
which is like, everything

[unique jungle]

the player

[subtle spruce]

Shouldn't have stopped that mad scientist from doing his weapon...

[cedar badger]

its so so good

i love wikis

[slim belfry]

so far my best wiki edits is the current runes page

I was trying to get dang runes so I documented it myself

[split night]

xd

[cedar badger]

im crying

this is going into the google docs

[slim belfry]

might go back to add fruma rune lore

[cedar badger]

shoutout wiki

[hot timber]

probably because its obvious

[cedar badger]

🥀

cuh

[hot timber]

it probably should have that but the reference is extremely blatant so i can see why they'd think of a more niche reference to put in first

[cedar badger]

i just like the idea of someone being a fan of genshin and seeing a similar name

the wiki is community ran, glad people are having fun with it

[split night]

I

genuinely need to edit Knightmare wiki to reference a bunch of deltarune shit

[hybrid gazelle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1015394899497058304/1500357685877542993/Smol_Ana.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1015394899497058304/1500357601597067325/Smol_Ana.gif

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1015394899497058304/1500357511411400816/Smol_Ana.gif

[split night]

Ana ❤️

[spring kernel]

I mean you can put it in the trivia

[split night]

i love that the emoji is basically an accurate depiction of Her's Majesty

[slender copper]

The fact that none of the potencial theories ever mentioned the player *character being Human is saying a lot lmao.

[spring kernel]

germany

[split night]

I'm pretty sure my character is human

huh waht if the character is Hyman and we all just missed it?

[cedar badger]

wait okay nevermind i think i have an idea to the reflection thing i talked about ealier, its in realm of light so it would make sense the reflection of us would be a creature of darkness, idk if anyone who talked with me about that is still here but yeah

[split night]

what reflection??

you mean like, your Character's soul?

[cedar badger]

the alarm bells are not ringing anymore

[slender copper]

Well the theories say otherwise, that's the thing lmao (scrolled through the conversation and it seems like I didn't reply to the comment)

[spring kernel]

why would a creature in the realm of light be a creature of darkness

[split night]

I think we do need a quest that put us back to our place 😔

[cedar badger]

its a reflection of us so an opposite and we have ti fight it

also its keeping the monolith not working

[split night]

because genuinely we keep winning so much that we're pretty much so close to the status of a demigod now

[spring kernel]

We are not a creature of light

[split night]

it's-

[spring kernel]

And a reflection is not an opposite

[split night]

it's your Character's soul

I thought it was pretty clearly said in the quest itself?

[spring kernel]

we're talking about the realm of light 5 one

not the point of no return one

[slim belfry]

yes

[split night]

oh that

[cedar badger]

yeah it prevents the monolith from working

i dont think things of light or of war would prevent a light monolith from working

[slim belfry]

the monoliths are strange too

[paper wyvern]

the player is close enough or literally just human now but may have been different in the past

[slender copper]

100%, now with me playing through Fruma I think a main story quest where we get brutally injured to almost to the point of death which effects our spell casting/walk sleep/health is a good balance.

[slim belfry]

why so much emphasis on them with intent while talking to two

[cedar badger]

also what?? they breached it, we are fighting them

im so confused

what are you on about lmao

[split night]

Yeah
Otherwise these player's Character is realm beast theory is gonna keep popping up xd

[slim belfry]

yeah not really a fan of that theory

I do think that what's in the player is connected though

[split night]

You mean this guy??

I thought this guy is just a DARK thing try to mimic us

[cedar badger]

yeah

[slender copper]

not a fan of it either, not enough information.

[slim belfry]

I have a theory about this

[split night]

these dialogs kinda hint that it's not even us really I think it's just a dark mimic try to be us and fight us

[cedar badger]

i think its the question mark

that does it

seals the deal

[slim belfry]

.

[split night]

Oh you mean that the "Reflection?" is the vast emptiness?

Neat theory actually

[slim belfry]

kinda yeah

it's like an evil wall guarding the deepest part of your mind

or soul

whatever

inside the player

the question is who covered all this up

[split night]

...FRIEND inside us

[split night]

I think this is gonna be too important and too vague for us to even know yet

[full jackal]

friend inside me wastelands theory

[split night]

we clearly are very powerful but got a spell put on that hid us away from the eyes of gods

the one that hid us must be really good at their job as well

[full jackal]

Sovereign Oru is a friend inside Deraj

[slender copper]

why did I read this like a pirate?

[split night]

considering the fact that we literally look the same to other soldiers

[paper wyvern]

I mean also a lot of that power got removed

[split night]

It's really neat honestly
we are basically at the peak in term of human capability

[mossy badge]

Not more like.. unable to use?

[slim belfry]

not really

[split night]

like we're batman type

[paper wyvern]

The emptynes used to be a part of it but its still below the emptyness

[slim belfry]

I believe the power the player uses directly is fully up to interpretation

[paper wyvern]

although yeah you can interpret it differently

[slim belfry]

the weapon dialogue heavily implies this

[split night]

15 different archetype so I'd say it's only fair to say this

[slim belfry]

actually I'll go far to say that it's a huge distinction

[split night]

we're built different, literally

[paper wyvern]

yeah the weapon dialogue is also interesting in a different way

"you. A catalyst. A hum in the air."

[slim belfry]

yeah if you compare both options you can see what "parts" of the player is up to interpretation and the ones that aren't

[paper wyvern]

I also think its a bit of a past v present situation

[slim belfry]

I was shocked reading the weapon option the first time

[paper wyvern]

weapon takes from what the player is now

the bottomless well is what you used to be

[slim belfry]

not only that it talked about past emotions not of your own

really strange

[paper wyvern]

honestly that doesnt help disprove realm beast player theory

[slim belfry]

yknow what really doesn't help

[brittle prism]

realm of Craftsmas!

[paper wyvern]

so true

we are lord of the nicks

[slim belfry]

The last thing you feel in this cavernous space is a quiet, mourning melody. You have never heard it before. But your soul knows it well.

[brittle prism]

ice themed, it causes peace, and santa is your scion

[mossy badge]

So jolly

[brittle prism]

just like how dern is dark

[slim belfry]

saying again that I'm one of the few thinking it's hero motif

[wooden ridge]

replaying wynncraft made me remember just how much i loathe Lari

[mossy badge]

W

[paper wyvern]

DDont most people think its hero motif

[slim belfry]

I havent seen many point it out

[paper wyvern]

im just annoyed it doesnt have a musical backing to let us hear the melody

[mossy badge]

Well idk wonncraft music motifs so i'd agree it is the hero motif lol

[mossy badge]

real

[paper wyvern]

like rule 101 of musical storytelling, FUCKING PLAY THE MELODY IF YOUR GONNA MENTION IT

[brittle prism]

it's because it's the nesaak theme

too big of a spoiler

[slim belfry]

the themes that hero motif plays in does not help with realm beast player allegations

[paper wyvern]

emerald traid is the one out of place obviously meaning player is realm beast of physical realm

Also an interesting note with metaphors, for sui magic is an ocean but for the player its a river

[slim belfry]

oh no

nononono

[brittle prism]

you can drink magic....

[mossy badge]

lol

[slim belfry]

I think I remembered what I was gonna say before

[hybrid gazelle]

also try to do paladin vs fallen

I just imagine this is what wynn is like if they fresh out golem and undead more

[slim belfry]

yknow how inside the player is like a bottomless well

[split night]

tiny head vs big head

[slim belfry]

what if deep in the well is like an ocean

[hybrid gazelle]

fallen head is not even that big

I am just being stupid LOL

[split night]

our mana is like, limitless

we can unnatural draw so much out of it for reason

[slim belfry]

it's like sui but not quite

[brittle prism]

what if inside of us is a bucket

and us refiling our mana

[split night]

compare to other human in universe, they take a bit to charge up or use mana

[brittle prism]

is us

[paper wyvern]

it is interesting that the weave seems to have limits to how much it can do at once, the ocean can be drained a bit

[mossy badge]

What if im water bucket clutching inside myself 🤔

[brittle prism]

drawing

the bucket

[paper wyvern]

but a constalty running river is an intersting metaphor

[brittle prism]

🪣

[slender copper]

Yeah, the well is filled with water, why have a well there? /j

[brittle prism]

out of the well

[paper wyvern]

cause that means that its alwauys flowing

[hybrid gazelle]

this is how big fallen is compare to paladin lol

[split night]

I think the limit is more or less them taking a chunk out of the ocean and have to wait for the surrounding water to fill back in
it sort of become a vacuum for a bit when they use magic

[paper wyvern]

yeah thats the vibe I get too

[brittle prism]

why have a well next to a river? Seems redundant

[split night]

where's monk

[slim belfry]

I feel this is gonna be some BS that ties into the magic province waters

and that the player is like

[hybrid gazelle]

in front of paladin

[slim belfry]

equivalent to them

[paper wyvern]

something about the literal ocean suddenly calming

[slim belfry]

yeah why was the ocean like that too

[mossy badge]

The what

U mean

[slim belfry]

what's with the world's water

[mossy badge]

Like wellspring of eternity?

[paper wyvern]

honestly when are they gonna do actual ocean lore

[mossy badge]

2067

[slim belfry]

wellspring, lazarus pit, fountain of youth

[paper wyvern]

theres lore for individual islands but no secret discoveries, no reason for the calming, no explanation for the cults

[vestal rivet]

what's the orc?

[mossy badge]

Ocean is so undercooked

[hybrid gazelle]

trapper

[slim belfry]

it's so funny that we finally get away from wynn to have unique ocean lore and end up with even more undead

[paper wyvern]

the ocean really does feel like it hasnt been updated since it was made

corkus is its own thing so it doenst count and I think they added a quest or 2 over the years

[split night]

most of them are just
flat undersurface water with sand and a bit of gravel dotted around
it look very dead and barren, even for a normal ocean standart

[slim belfry]

@hybrid gazelle trashie very scary thought

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah

IDK ;like

[slim belfry]

remember how corruption is like anti-life

[paper wyvern]

I dont think the ocean floor has been chnaged since it came out

[hybrid gazelle]

those water soruce suspcious

[paper wyvern]

reminder that the pure magic element is water

[split night]

is water pure life?

[slim belfry]

what if the so called "twilight" isn't the opposite but water is

it's everywhere it's in nature

unlike corruption which is unnatural

[split night]

Anti-life is not really opposite of life, but more or less parallel
death is the opposite of life

[slim belfry]

yeah something along that

[split night]

anytime i think about magic i keep thinking about llevigar blowing up, please help me

[slim belfry]

I love quartz

[mossy badge]

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[split night]

like
there are moisture in the air, how the fuck llevigar not even sparkling rn is beyong me

[slim belfry]

WHAT WHO HOW

cant believe annie got to detlas

[mossy badge]

Mother of all nukes fell

[paper wyvern]

llevigar blwing up after a heavey rain

[split night]

I kinda want to draw Her's Majesty comment on this like "Who the fuck made this place" or something

assuming she don't immediately explode llevigar due to her aura

[paper wyvern]

yeah so the llevigar we see is actually the third one, hurricanes destroyed the last 2. no no no the buildings are sturdy enough the water is just slightly magical and charges the quartz causing the city to blow up

[split night]

the very air itself is magic
I imagine all of the quartz is already at its limit so casting any more just blow it up 😭

like a fully charge battery get extra charge in it

[paper wyvern]

ok but the pasive magic saturation of the air isnt enough to make quartz normally unstable

[split night]

we have to consider the time too

like, EVEN without rain
that much quart in SUCH a long time should make all the quartz already at its limit after passively collecting magic

I'm surprise it didn't even nuke when we cast some shit like arrow bomb

xd

[paper wyvern]

I imagine theres still some leakage so it really wouldnt be that bad

[slim belfry]

I think the quartz being grounded helps

[split night]

The fact that there is a giant fountain next to the quartz is already hilarious

I imagine that they somehow make water touching sodium not explode

[split night]

Quartz is a conductive material now?? 😭

[slim belfry]

is it not

[split night]

but like

Like the ground is also magical

where do they even put the mana out if every material around it is at least a bit magical

and like
if its property is that it suck magic and keep it in itself

that must mean they behave like copper wire and mana being electrictiy

like

[slim belfry]

uh

[split night]

putting a thin rod of quartz to let mana out underound doesn't work either because it would extract the mana out of the ground

there is less volume of it then it must explode

[slim belfry]

earth magic dissipates thunder

thunder is "weak" to earth

[split night]

dude, it's a metaphor 😭

[slim belfry]

oh

whoops

[split night]

It's LITERAL mana, like pure magic in quartz because quartz can consume any type of elemental magic

so like
not even the elemental thing gonna make sense with it because it's basically pure magic in it
some sort of purifier i thinl

how do would you actually drain it

is there a anti-quartz material where it repulse magic

would a magic repulsive material even make sense? xd

actually it doesn't need to repulse

[paper wyvern]

passive levels of saturation, leakage, etc

[split night]

it just need to be unreactive to quartz

[paper wyvern]

just treat it like electricity

or water

[split night]

It trap magic like

it suck magic in we clearly see that and got explained by the magic school quest

it's also said to be very unstable as well

nothing about llevigar make sense

[paper wyvern]

yeah how has nobody tried overloading llevigar

[slim belfry]

maybe the generator inside llevigar absorbs it?

[paper wyvern]

they might also use decay root

[full jackal]

Wait, would this not also apply with the quartz being mined in Karoc Quarry?

Cuz the Quartz is fully surrounded with Earth and Air

[uneven basin]

AHC scenario where you blow up llevigar by overcharging the quartz

[drifting aurora]

again. youre wrong

[hybrid gazelle]

wait I am confuse now I though she first started as roguhwork worker since she talk about how she only work there for am onth

[drifting aurora]

go read her echoes of change dialogue

[hybrid gazelle]

and then get transfer

[drifting aurora]

shes lying to elise about what she is

she was never a real roughworks worker

[hybrid gazelle]

now I kinda confuse what hte point of spies unit when they send their ground unit as spies uynit

[drifting aurora]

go read the echoes dialogue

[acoustic scroll]

Why was she at the bread line working in one of the cutscenes tho?

[hybrid gazelle]

ohj wait

test of loyalty thing

fuck

[drifting aurora]

i guess ill just keep saying this

because it literally explains everything

[hybrid gazelle]

I cant rn

[drifting aurora]

||How did you meet her?

Syndra: It was... during a larger assignment. I'd risen through the ranks of the military at a rapid pace, becoming a Wing only three years after joining.
Syndra: In 93 IA, Her Majesty was looking into more long-term solutions for managing the Industrial District. She requested a team of Wings most suited to the task, and I was selected for it.
Syndra: We worked to establish a more centralized management structure... I ended up taking charge, and was later promoted to Captain.
Syndra: But one of my first ideas was to go undercover and work at the factories, for a time. I believed I would be able to get a better insight into the situation that way.
Syndra: And, there... I met her.
Syndra: I wasn't supposed to get attached. It was just a job, and I'd be visiting many factories...
Syndra: But I did. And it was the best mistake of my life.
Syndra: Even after I moved on, and throughout the whole three years of that assignment, I continued meeting up with her.
Syndra: ...even after the assignment ended, and I was recalled to the Citadel... even after I was inducted into the Gendarme... I continued meeting up with her.
Syndra: I... never told her what I really was. I thought it would be safe, for both of us... ha. And how did that turn out...?||

[acoustic scroll]

Ah

Explains it all

[cedar kernel]

Aaaaaand mind wipe!

[hybrid gazelle]

I Dont think I ever get this dialogue wtf

damn

[edgy loom]

WASTELANDS EXPANSION - SOVEREIGN ORU DIALOGUE LEAK

{SPOILERS}

[drifting aurora]

no fucking way

[main dust]

This dialogue is obtained during EoC before you leave The Steel Feather section at some point someone else better than me remembers, it's an optional question you can ask her after a meeting around the centre of the Headquarters.

Can we normalize not acting like someone is wrong the moment they speak up about how you're wrong? I'm not saying lexnt is just someone we should give a shit about because she's content team because that's bad behaviour that shouldn't be how we act (There are in fact people that aren't just the creators that can know things) but it's some bum ass behaviour to just ignore someone's reply (you were literally replied to by lexnt that you were wrong about Syndra being a Roughworks Worker, Auree responded afterwards sayig she thought about whether Syndra was at least from Highlands asking lexnt and she replied that she never stated where she was from at all) and then continue talking about the thing you're saying as if it's the fact and truth (when it's not) instead - lexnt (and anyone, for that matter) should not have to go out of her way to re-establish that she already said you were incorrect.

We need to be better people.
We can't just keep making other people spend their times on a crusade to be listened to like this, it feels awful to repeat the things others can just scroll up to see.

And I'm not apologetic about bad behaviour - kindness is important and being kind includes listening.
These people went through long ass nights to invent shit we could get to care about and if we want to care about it we also need to read it properly - or at least ask the people around us when we don't understand.

[mossy badge]

Thanks for calling him out 🙏

[main dust]

I actually regret not doing this first - I initially just DMed lexnt apologizing for the fact this experience probably sucked because it's a fallback I do out of discomfort but as of late I've been just a more upfront person for the sake of my Husband who experiences this stuff on a daily (if he were to risk talking to other people) and it's really, really painful being someone who can spend ages writing an answer to someone that's extensive and in detail to make sure it's concise and answers every section of a question and have the next message from who you're replying to just continuing their own pre-established facts as if no one said a whisper.

I don't want people to be annoyed while people that are annoying get to hop and skip because I believe people can treat each other better, it's fucking effort, don't get me wrong - but is being someone people like more with a bit more effort actually... bad?

Anyways - I'm going to lurk again, I'm stewing some thoughts about Mistwoods Military Prescense at the minute.

I don't want people to feel bad, I want them to improve on parts of themselves that hurt others - Ignoring people is a baaaaaaaaaaaad thing guys - and I have ADHD which my personal response to (because other people do have it much harder than I) that being a part of myself is to still put x3 the effort to make sure I am someone that cares about others - we have to try despite how much we might not care or find it too much effort to be the best version of ourselves.

[narrow kestrel]

i still dont get why TNA is a raid boss

imo TNA and EO should have switched

[mossy badge]

Wdym? That wouldn't really make sense story-wise, u mean like tna should be a dungeon and eo a raid?

[hybrid gazelle]

TNA come in 1.20

no

2.0

so It was not feature in Slient Expansion

[mossy badge]

Tbh maybe ye

[hybrid gazelle]

so the story of SE did not reeally take account of TNA

like IDK it just

it really hard to say if EO could be a raid

cause another rpoblem if you turn the eye into raid boss is that

you just get another TCC situation where you got this raid boss that do not move

[chilly tulip]

What are y’all’s theories on who Two is? Like where they’re from and their deal