📚lore_discussion

[snow kiln]

Bob's reincarnation is 8-3 disintegration loop

[warm flicker]

Old gameplay mechanics

[hybrid gazelle]

Saphanis is a basement dweller so it never get to discovr these concept

either that

[snow kiln]

Orphion ain't that cheap

[regal spire]

I would absolutely LOVE to see that

[hybrid gazelle]

or it just content being what it is

which is like fair

[fallow heart]

Nah it knows the MOMENT it opens that portal we're gonna destroy it

[muted crypt]

bc thats not Bob

[regal spire]

But, what I thinks gonna happen is SE is gonna break through

[muted crypt]

Bobs body isnt even in his tomb

[snow kiln]

No we wont

[muted crypt]

we dont even know for sure if Bob is dead

[snow kiln]

I don't think player is capable of killing saph and orphion

[astral void]

So was it just like the vessel from Wukong? Like a copy?

[regal spire]

Well, duh, we’re goated. But, it doesn’t really know that, since it’s still trying to figure out who we are

[snow kiln]

At least in the state we are

[muted crypt]

unless we’re also a realm beast

[snow kiln]

I mean we literally die if we take anathemas blessing

[muted crypt]

which comes back around to player realm beast theory

[whole nebula]

Bob's reincarnation is like at best maybe a snapshot of Bob's power but I think it's more like a fragment of something he left behind

[snow kiln]

Bakal took 2

I think player is way weaker than Bob or bakal no competition

[fallow heart]

I doubt it
We probably have the power of a god, but def aren't one ourselves

[split night]

my guy
you gotta remember that we have beaten at least 2 gods throughout the game already

[muted crypt]

ig. and I mean canonically the queen kicks our ass

[whole nebula]

We're definitely at demigod status ourselves right now

[split night]

we are literally something else

[snow kiln]

2?

[regal spire]

Players not a realm beast, because I’ve already said that we (yes, you, me, and everyone else here) took control of a random dude, injecting it with the power of plot relevance, and completely wiping their previous existence from reality

[warm flicker]

Silver bull buys all the property around the Corruption portal and starts a business killing demons and selling their parts for emeralds, becoming the company’s largest manufactory in the process

[split night]

Overtaken Orphion and Anathema

[snow kiln]

We know that anathema is significantly weaker than the other 2

[whole nebula]

Capitalism wins again

[snow kiln]

We did not beat orphion lmfao

We just weakend the paradite

[warm flicker]

Gambling Beast approves

[snow kiln]

And orphion instalills it

[regal spire]

If we end up seeing a goddamn lr in Dern 😭

[split night]

yes i literally said Overtaken Orphion

not Orphion himself

[snow kiln]

But we didn't hurt orphion at all

[whole nebula]

I still can't stop laughing at the prospect of aledar going through all that in the SE only for some random ass dude to setup a lootcamp there because money

[fallow heart]

Technically you deal the final blow

[snow kiln]

So what God did we kill there?

[snow kiln]

No he kills it

He shouts at it

Popping it

[whole nebula]

We're LITERALLY going to go into Dern with LOOTCAMPS

[split night]

after we deal its health to near death

[snow kiln]

That's just hp bar we see

[fallow heart]

Yeah
But you have to hit it at the end to finish the raid

[muted crypt]

yea but we hit it

[narrow kestrel]

zamn

[muted crypt]

at the end

[split night]

😭

[warm flicker]

“Player, you set up another loot run location for our company? How entrepreneurial! Where is it? … in the realm of darkness? Is that even a physical place?”

[fervent sun]

you have to deal the last hit

[snow kiln]

This is just gameplay lmfao

[narrow kestrel]

unconscious siegfried

[muted crypt]

i always twerk on it

[regal spire]

I used to imagine it as us having gathered the resources and people necessary to quarantine and survey the area, which just so happens to be the SBS

[snow kiln]

Bruh imagine if it died at 90% hp

It would be confusing as fuck

[regal spire]

But, then they told us it’s an SE creature pretending

[whole nebula]

That implies SE creatures mimic capitalist greed

[muted crypt]

real? isnt silverbull just not canon

[fervent sun]

its like a morphling?

[regal spire]

“wtf do you want us to do there? None of this shit is corporeal, and we can’t physically exist there for more than 3 minutes”

[snow kiln]

Silvwrbull corp is cannon

[split night]

the player is weak ass people when they realize that we have beaten Her's Majesty and all of her sovereigns
It still account for something, we are kinda at the status of a demigod rn, and with the fact that Anathema say that we are a Spark while refering to herself a spark and said that Orphion and Saphanis overlooked us so

[snow kiln]

The cannonicity of lrs and raids is dubious

[regal spire]

We “set it up”, but the lil dude there? That’s a fake man

[muted crypt]

the CT has always said silverbull camps/raids just dont exist

[snow kiln]

Bruh which sovn did we beat other than tasim 😭

[split night]

are you saying the guy in the RoL entrance is canon

xd

[regal spire]

Nah, SE lr

[split night]

have you play Fruma 😭

[warm flicker]

“I mean I guess if you find things that can exist in our dimension you can bring it to the camp, but I can’t imagine there would be that much there”

[muted crypt]

the blacksmiths in raids are canon

[regal spire]

The guy at the raid entrance is technically canonical, because Lari says to bring help

[frozen turtle]

gikyo, zhirarok, majin
(zhiraok just revives but like we beat him like twice)

[snow kiln]

Majin killed himself

[muted crypt]

villager in orphions domain

[regal spire]

We brought help

[snow kiln]

Sui killed gikyo

Zhiraok was killed by syndra

[fervent sun]

the dead demon in wartorn as blacksmith

[muted crypt]

kill stealers

[whole nebula]

"yeah but this darkness flesh from the supreme eldritch dark beast in that one cave over there is worth like 1stx per kilogram"

[snow kiln]

Who TF did we kill

[split night]

Oh my boat with the "final blow" argument

[muted crypt]

we get our kills stolen in every fruma fight

its so annoying

[frozen turtle]

we literally did 99% of the work and then an npc hits 1 thing

[split night]

we get out kill stolen MEAN that we didn't beat them to near death??

😭

[fervent sun]

majin stole our kill on himself 😔

[snow kiln]

Gikyo was no where close

Nor was majin

[frozen turtle]

also we beat Majin at his peak power before he died to trying to get more so he could win

[fallow heart]

We also FULLY kill anathema at full power
From start to finish

[snow kiln]

We don't know how much hp he actually has

[whole nebula]

Gikyo was already beaten and tried to go after sui as an easy kill

[muted crypt]

sui and rex and syndra stealing our xp

[frozen turtle]

yeah but clearly we were winning if he had to draw onto much more power

[snow kiln]

Yes but anathema is weak as shit compared to orphion and saphanis

[muted crypt]

getting all final hits

[regal spire]

I just adore the idea that the SBS just trails our OP player character, taking notes and mimicking our qualities, until they eventually founded a headquarters close to Detlas’s only air traffic hub.

[split night]

how the hell do you know that??
you think Sui is just stronger than us, a trained combatent and one shot Gikyo??

[snow kiln]

We don't know

[whole nebula]

Gikyo probably thought the only way to get out of that situation alive was for us to sacrifice ourselves for Sui or smth

[snow kiln]

We literally don't know how strong sui is

[warm flicker]

Maybe Rex’s brother was the xp we got from Fruma

[regal spire]

Just some goons trailing us in a raid, looting whatever they can find from what we kill

[split night]

THEN why are you saying it like it's a fact 😭

[snow kiln]

She 1 taps the wings sentinals

[frozen turtle]

bro i bet if they made a story-mode raid, we'd solo anthema then fucking tasim or smth like that just hits it once and goes "omg i killed anathema"

[snow kiln]

Do you remember the hyloch scene, she 1 taps a wings sentinal to dust

[regal spire]

WTP’s my fav, cause it’s just us raiding the castle, and stealing whatever they can find. Just need a cutscene of one of the SBS members rummaging through the Queen’s closet and stealing a pretty dress

[whole roost]

is ||Saphanis || the official name for ||the dern beast||

[split night]

i fucking bet Bhav would say that Tasim did all the work because he one shotted Anathema as the last blow

[fervent sun]

i think in echoes of change even zeph did that 😭

[snow kiln]

Yes she says that

[snow kiln]

Exactly and player can't 😭

[fervent sun]

😭

[snow kiln]

This is what I'm saying

[regal spire]

Rex and Zeph kinda fucked, dealing 250k in a single strike

[snow kiln]

Players power is rallying people and inciting change

We're the catalyst

[frozen turtle]

the wings have what like more then 100K health right, and when they hit us they deal nowhere near that
its clearly not consistent

[regal spire]

Just straight power fr, no downtime

[snow kiln]

Cannonicaly raid was done with tasim and gang

Not solo

[split night]

NoL is canonically done solo

[snow kiln]

The player is no one man army like bob

[split night]

yes but that doesn't mean we're weak

[fervent sun]

we barely survived her majesty fight, we couldnt take solo anathema

[regal spire]

NoL is canonically done with help, actually, just not in Orphion’s fight

[snow kiln]

Player will defeat saph with their peers

[frozen turtle]

canonically we do all the work and have the credit taken bro

[snow kiln]

That's how we win

[stray karma]

What used to happen in the beta when you could tell Tadim you killed aledar?

[snow kiln]

Its not a solo

Bob, tasim, the sovns, etc.

That's how we win

[regal spire]

The SBS are supporting with raiding the nexus

[whole nebula]

Rex is the real fucking anomaly here she is the only one that hasn't successfully pulled off any magic and singlehandedly shaved off tasim for the whole fight and also momentarily hit them down for her to 1 SHOT THE FUCKING QUEEN

[split night]

huh??
it would be weird narratively if we just go out of RoL and then convince 3 other people to go in the nexus

[snow kiln]

Y'all literally haven't played the game if you think player is one man army.

[regal spire]

Nah, the SBS join us

[snow kiln]

The other players are just other wynnic soldiers

[frozen turtle]

we are at times, not always

[snow kiln]

When are we one man army 😭

[stray karma]

It was also her last shot fired lmao

[frozen turtle]

Majin, Zhirarok, Gikyo foro ne

[warm flicker]

SBS on the way to capitalize everything beyond the physical realm

[fallow heart]

Eldrich outlook

[frozen turtle]

edlritch yeah

[regal spire]

Any time we do it alone, the SBS are supporting with other rooms/taking us back and forth, offering buffs

[snow kiln]

Only majin is solo

[frozen turtle]

all the dungeons

[split night]

"nope, kill steal mean they did all the work, bla bla we did nothing the entire fight"

[frozen turtle]

Sui hits gikyo a singualr timar

time

[snow kiln]

Dungeons 😭

[regal spire]

They’re scouting out, which explains the raid rules

[frozen turtle]

a singular time

[snow kiln]

Oh no a corrupted olm spoopy

[regal spire]

It’s why dungeons have no instructions, cause we’ve got no scouts fr

[fallow heart]

Do remember that killing the eye is a powerful enough move for saphanis to seal the entrance to the realm of darkness

[fervent sun]

he got sad and said something like he couldnt get mad at us, and kept said until the end of the quest, but it was normal, like the usual quest

[split night]

oh yeah
that too

[frozen turtle]

the eye, super powered AI,

[stray karma]

She actually attacks like 5-6 times
If you go to rematch it shows the cutscenes again

[split night]

Saphanis did seal the entrance to RoD after we killed the Eye

[regal spire]

SBS canonically scouts literally every raid we’re in fr. They sacrifice themselves to help us, and I think that’s very noble

[fallow heart]

Plus
If we're doing powerscaling
Theorick is 100x more powerful than sui
And we beat him in a hunters calling

[snow kiln]

Antykiera (spelling?) is complicated

[fallow heart]

We are definitely a force to be reckoned with

[snow kiln]

I don't disagree

[regal spire]

Technically, we beat them at level 40

[split night]

what
I beat the they the first time i fight them

[whole nebula]

AHC doesn't scale to us throughout the entire thing

[snow kiln]

We ain't soloing saph or orph

[frozen turtle]

compared to the amount of work we did, thats nothing bc she only did that at the very end

[whole nebula]

Theorick was like almost dead by then so it doesn't reeeeally count

[fallow heart]

Well thats his weakened version
We beat him at full strength in the quest

[regal spire]

Nah, Saph and Orph are gonna be supported.

[snow kiln]

Again we don't know how strong gikyo is

Be couldve tried to kill sui to fuck with us

[split night]

are we p*werscaling now

[snow kiln]

Cause that's gikyo

[whole nebula]

I don't think theorick is that much above sui though to be perfectly honest

[regal spire]

Canonically, Theorick hasn’t had his HP scaled yet, so he’s not at his full power

[frozen turtle]

probably power levels might be the same but its moreso experience

[muted crypt]

“alr scouts today we will split you into teams. one team will investigate this worm cave. the other is going into the Realm of War”

[fallow heart]

Sui could barely freeze a dam, theorick froze a hole region

[whole nebula]

Yeah experience for sure

[frozen turtle]

theorick has been trained with magic his entire life, sui is just learning it

so probably later she could match his feats but not rn

[warm flicker]

Yes, Fruma Pest Control easily stomps on Amadel and Theorick

[fallow heart]

I would also argue theorick's power is bolstered by the purple crystal

[frozen turtle]

the lumberjacks solo Gikyo

[fallow heart]

Real

[split night]

lumberjacks solo Anathema

[regal spire]

It’s more like they’re supporting on the sides, raiding small holes, hidden grottos, rare specimens, and the Queen’s Underwear Drawer

[warm flicker]

Who knew modern construction machinery easily trumps any kind of magic

[muted crypt]

they have WHAT

[regal spire]

During this, they follow us, and scout out the room before hand

[muted crypt]

lootpool needs to rotate NOW

[regal spire]

What do you think some of the accessories are

[split night]

It's hilarious that magic ain't shit when your opponent carry a fucking gun xd

[narrow kestrel]

3 children in a trenchcoat

[fallow heart]

Well guns do exist in wynncraft
And they're not super powerful

[snow kiln]

The guns can instakill some weak players, but yet guns are legal for carry irl 😭

Dawg at least queen regulates them

Even tho we can tank shots

[frozen turtle]

i. mean like, archer literally straps a bomb to an arrow which is i'd say worse

[snow kiln]

Don't forget callinf an air strike

[frozen turtle]

bro the fucking air strike too

[regal spire]

Siegthree

[split night]

mind you, those world event in Aelumia is insane, I die instantly anytime i try to solo them 😭

[whole nebula]

Pretty sure we're the only ones that can do that

But yeah

[frozen turtle]

also interesting the trappers traps are found in Soosus workshop

[fallow heart]

That's true...

[split night]

wait until Rex discover Arrow Storm Bomb
each arrow storm arrow have a little bomb attach with it

[snow kiln]

Thank god WEs aren't cannon or else player solos god theory would be in the shitter.

[regal spire]

It’s a miracle Saph and Orph think they have a chance

[warm flicker]

Rex with gun

[whole nebula]

Rex solos all of Wynn

[snow kiln]

My girl will

[regal spire]

One master trapper is all we need to solo

[snow kiln]

Trapper but with fat man nukes vs saph

[split night]

honestly just give Bob a minigun and we auto win against Saphanie

[whole nebula]

Bro they gave her some of the most ridiculous feats for no reason its actually hilarious

Love her tho so it's all good

[regal spire]

“You want me to cast arrow storm with what now?”

[split night]

I forgot Bob genuinely a master of all archetype except for shaman 😭

[whole nebula]

Bob would probably pick up on guns pretty fast

[split night]

he can genuinely do that

xd

[frozen turtle]

poor shaman

[whole nebula]

Dude is a master weapons generalist

[frozen turtle]

shaman is so hated in wynncraft like

not even bob plays the class

[regal spire]

Bob mastered all 4, but saw Shamanism and said “not gentrified enough”

[whole nebula]

Blame slykkar

[regal spire]

One bad apple spoiled the batch fr

[snow kiln]

Lmfao

[whole nebula]

Bro is the biggest FRAUD

[regal spire]

Slyfart

[frozen turtle]

if bob learnt shamanism i bet he could solo saphanis

[warm flicker]

Alas there was no four-lettered random guy Bob could find who could teach him how to be a shaman

[regal spire]

Actually screw Slykaar. What an actual loser

[frozen turtle]

Elam

[split night]

I think Bob just don't like Shaman due to how... evil that method of combat is

xd

[whole nebula]

The evil in question: Aura spam

[snow kiln]

Blood magic...?

[frozen turtle]

shaman is also just a weird "class" cuz there are like 3 different shaman types (not refering to the archetypes)

also guild towers are 100% shaman totems

[mossy widget]

slykaar hate

[regal spire]

Charon and Slykaar are the only 2 unapologetically evil dungeon bosses (The Eye is just a creature of nature fr)

[snow kiln]

Acolyte would be so heretical in wynncraft

[whole nebula]

Ok yeah I didn't know why I didn't think of acolyte there

[mossy widget]

mel is a shaman guys

[regal spire]

Redbeard is just a pirate; bros not evil, just a sea grifter

[split night]

blood magic is undoubtably evil
it's very evil ish but i guess we can use it for good so idk

xd

[frozen turtle]

Mael teaches bob archery
Mel teaches bob shamanism

[limber swan]

calling Mel evil

[regal spire]

A lil pillaging is good for the strength of a crew, and the bloodline of humanity

[limber swan]

when Mel is the goat

[snow kiln]

Imagine bob, half blood of the notoriously peaceful olm, using blood magic

Seems so outta character yknow

[fervent sun]

mael being a archer still surprises me...

[split night]

I'd rather if bob cast arrow bomb on a minigun

[regal spire]

Bro could just summon puppets

[frozen turtle]

its not always blood magic is the thing

this is shaman slander

[snow kiln]

Also I wonder if they'll update bob to use all archetypes

At once

Cause he's built like that ig

[split night]

I think summoner fit Bob really well though
he have animal companions so

*had

[snow kiln]

6000AP

[snow kiln]

Trapper would be better for this no?

[regal spire]

That’s trapper

[fervent sun]

bob summoning baab cluckles and moington agaisnt bak'al

[snow kiln]

Summoner are voodoo dolls

And life magic

So uh...

[split night]

hey since you're here, check out this girl

[snow kiln]

I don't think he'd use summoner rither

[split night]

work in progress

[snow kiln]

What's the last shaman archetype

[regal spire]

Summoner is actually quite interesting, considering the nature of shamanism needing to take energy from living concepts to cast its spells

[snow kiln]

Its acolyte, summoner and what?

[split night]

ritualist being so ass that no one remember them

😭

[snow kiln]

Ah yeah the masks

[frozen turtle]

i love ritualist

[snow kiln]

Do we know anything about ritualist that would turn off bob

[split night]

idk i haven't play it

it's just masks

[limber swan]

Lari?

[whole nebula]

Do you really want him to cast fortitude, radiance, vanish swan dive mirror clone mana bank meteors and ophanim dimensional rift arrow storm crep ray manastorm on you all at the same time

[warm flicker]

Thats what the mask is, that’s what the point of the mask is

[split night]

that's Eulogia, her form is made by Lari yeah

[snow kiln]

CT would actually wish for death

[limber swan]

oh cool

[snow kiln]

But it would be so dope

[regal spire]

Acolyte is self explained, and Ritualist is clearly taking energy from nature, like plants and stuff, but summoner isn’t getting it as clearly. Stuff like transfiguration indicate that it’s taking power from the incorporeal world

[snow kiln]

Also it would make an incredible final boss

[whole nebula]

I would love to see that in Dern

Honestly

[snow kiln]

Yeah I think bobll be final boss

[whole nebula]

And then also maybe beat up lari a little assuming she's still alive

[snow kiln]

Cause we know saph has a secret weapon of some kind

[regal spire]

Bob deserves the final Boss Altar fight

[snow kiln]

Bob seems fitting for this

[frozen turtle]

does ritualist take from nature

[snow kiln]

Heretic

[frozen turtle]

oh well

[snow kiln]

This would make sense

[whole nebula]

Bob being relegated to a boss altar never cook again

[frozen turtle]

i actually wrote down a lot about shamans at onej point

[snow kiln]

That would explain why Bob isn't shaman, it's just blood magic, voodoo magic or draining from nature.

[mossy widget]

yall are making me think abt bob reincarnation now im mad hes so ugly

[snow kiln]

This all seems very opposed to Bob's character

[snow kiln]

Ayo don't hate on my grey skins 😭

[mossy widget]

no no

this guy

[regal spire]

The totem, from my understanding, works as a conduit to take from whatever they get their power from. The air, the “vast ocean”, themselves, or something else (spirits, nature, animals).

[snow kiln]

Oh

Right

[regal spire]

Ritualist fits the nature vibe the most

[whole nebula]

Bob in the secret discoveries look SO much better

[limber swan]

why is he bald

[snow kiln]

Why haven't they even updated the skin to uses Bob's skin

[split night]

they really need to redesign bob in this quest

xd

[mossy widget]

HE IS REDESIGNED

THEY JUST DIDNT CHANGE THIS

[limber swan]

they did

[split night]

🥺

i was slow to typing

[warm flicker]

That’s just a homunculus that’s made to look like bob

[limber swan]

see

[warm flicker]

Zamn

[frozen turtle]

ritaulist talks about using hymns and dances tho

[split night]

he's so cool

[frozen turtle]

idk

[split night]

I love his big sword

[limber swan]

spear actually

[split night]

what the hell

[frozen turtle]

is that a spear

spears need long shafts dont they

[limber swan]

yes his weapon can shapeshift into different weapons

[limber swan]

note the angle this ss is taken at

it can be a spear, a dagger, a wand, and a bow

[split night]

That's acutally so cool, that just make him even more insanely op

xd

His weapon would be a mythic honestly

[fervent sun]

old pandemonium major id (but without totems)

[regal spire]

Imagine being hyped up to facing a battle with the provinces most powerful warrior, accompanied by an inspiring speech, filled to the brim with flowery language and fascinating vernacular, only to be put against this dried husk of a homunculus wearing the comically inaccurate skin-mask of that very hero

[limber swan]

fun fact Bob gave his animals some of his power

his sheep, his cow, and his chicken

[regal spire]

Wait a second… gave some of his… power?

Just like a… sovereign?

[limber swan]

yes

[limber swan]

ye its weird

[regal spire]

Bob Beast theory?

Check the animals for marks

[split night]

the animal behave like a scion yeah
it's weird old quest stuff

[limber swan]

Sovereign Cluckles

[regal spire]

Sovereign Coocu

[frozen turtle]

i actually havent seen his updated model

thats cool

[regal spire]

Sovereign Moojin

Sovereign Moo 😭

Sovereign Baa’kal

[split night]

i love what you did to the sheep

[regal spire]

Sovereign Moo was my favorite

It’s so dumb

Sovereign Sheep-raok

Sovereign Xibaa, Sovereign Ormoo

[drifting aurora]

yay, lore

[narrow kestrel]

so is gurix just fucking dead

😭

[split night]

pissim

[narrow kestrel]

should have just left his ass in that cage

[dreamy dune]

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[frozen turtle]

u let him die?

how could you

[narrow kestrel]

i didnt

the fucking

[split night]

oh my boat pissim is taking over

[narrow kestrel]

foundation killed his ass

[frozen turtle]

u are able to save Gurix

[fervent sun]

have you seen what lies under the cinfras statue?

[frozen turtle]

tho its probably too late

pretty sure he dies actually anyways

[narrow kestrel]

yes

[narrow kestrel]

this is what im trying to say

i went through all that trouble just for him to get taken out back and shot

😭

[frozen turtle]

i thought u meant he died in the cave or smth

[dim plover]

I just made the best mini-animation of a specific Fruma character but I need to show restraint and can’t show it to any of you

But if I did needless to say everyone will explode

[frozen turtle]

2

[split night]

i love fan project like these

[dim plover]

It’s going to be part of a bigger cutscene but I’m in the middle of making the rest of the stuff in it

[split night]

I'd love to see it when it is finished

[dim plover]

The only thing I’m really missing is like, the setting

[split night]

i'm still waiting for someone to do the last moment of Aledar animation

[dim plover]

I want it to be in the Palace meeting room but I don’t have reference footage of it

Is there any way to return to it post-quest

[frozen turtle]

palace room, what quest is that in

[dim plover]

Ensemble of Hope

[frozen turtle]

rip

[fervent sun]

this room?

[dim plover]

Yeah

[fervent sun]

i belive there is no way to go back to it other than the ruined version from the raid WTP cache sadly

[frozen turtle]

do u just needscreenshots or a replay of it

[dim plover]

Replay/ Flashback

[frozen turtle]

ive got a class which is progressing through but isnt that far into the questline yet,

once i get to that stage ill check to see if u still need it

[dim plover]

Alright thanks

[signal bough]

No he gets fired

Should the mo’in thing be present in the roughworks?

I think you can have a

‘Mornin’

[pine flower]

Wow yap fest in lore discussion today, nice
anyway i take it some people dont know about the little lore drop anathema gives about the player?

[signal bough]

Where’s the love for the real power behind wynncraft- capitalism?

[slim belfry]

silverbull syndicate

[narrow kestrel]

we take down the fucking fallenf actory

but the birdwoman gets maxie instead of us for making plants grow

???

rigged

[signal bough]

Good news, Maxie is gay

Ava finding him cute is one sided

[edgy loom]

if the game was "realistic" the player would be a celebrity

every one of bob/siegfried's achievements are a random fetch quest for the player

[mossy badge]

Whats the lore behind the new leaked upcoming water mount, the yacht 🤑

[pearl zenith]

Honestly if they did do a water mount it would spiritually be a yacht in the sense that having one would purely be for the purpose of spending money since the wyvern exists and you can just fly over the ocean

[mossy badge]

When the ocean update will arrive in 2056, they need to add the nautilus mount for underwater

[pearl zenith]

Hypothetically if there was an underwater update what would it explore?

[hybrid gazelle]

update stuff on Ana

[mossy badge]

Stuff under.. the ocean 🤯 , sarnfic type shit

[pearl zenith]

Wow so imaginative

https://tenor.com/view/fig-gif-26092737

[edgy loom]

just give us waves

we could even get a trinket that activates riptide for underwater exploration

[split night]

I'm actually kinda sad that only that chef in the sky islands recognizes us
like we did so much good deed over the time, in wynn and gavel
at least some random ass citizen should recognise us
like Ragni King bestow us the title Hero of Wynn and no one talks about it

[proud ginkgo]

Did we get thst from wynn ex site D

[frozen turtle]

even that im pretty sure got changed so he doesnt actuallyremember us :(

[split night]

yeah
after we beat amadel ass
King Ragni give us the title Hero of Wynn

[proud ginkgo]

He does recognize us as a hero

[split night]

and said Bob is probably smiling at us up there

[proud ginkgo]

Iirc

[split night]

man I wish some random ass citizen in ragni or detlas would recognize us as hero

that would cheer me up

[frozen turtle]

yeah but it used to be the cooks recruit person

i think its now just oh we're recognised

[split night]

we literally stop so many atrocities that we should at least get named in some way or another i think

like beating TCC is an achievement on itself

[frozen turtle]

(im also pretty sure theo nly reason he goes "oh i recongise you" is because he used to be the cooks recruit and they wanted to keep part of the recongisiation) so it wasnt even a like proper recognition

[frozen turtle]

tbf, i think the time between all our feats is relatively small that our fame might've not become super well-known (i still think there should be some) cuz even the spymasters didnt know some of our greatest feats until the end

[split night]

I think at least among the dwarf and doguns we are particularly well known

like we play a part in stopping their war and they prob know about the TCC considering their king and the elders were here

[frozen turtle]

like at least change a few random npcs around to be like "oh its you" afteer completeing certain quests

tbf i dont talk to npcs a lot

so maybe they do

[split night]

I interact with them a lot so i do know that there are a few post raid dialogs after you did TCC

funs one too

like the general at the start of the quest call us a hero

[silk ravine]

Im pretty sure the Doguns recognise us for what we did to help them too.

[frozen turtle]

ill never forgive CT for de-cannonising Recipe for Disaster NPC not being from Cooks Recruit

[split night]

I do like that the TCC quest let us meet some old friends and they thanks us a lot of stuff

i'm just looking at moth pictures to draw happy Anathema but like, moths are so fricking creepy

[dim plover]

I mean, they kinda have to to preserve the timeline

[frozen turtle]

ik but i was more excited to see that chef then aledar again after so many levels

[hybrid gazelle]

The whole golden spoon thing would not work at all if they are the same person

[split night]

you look a little different today

can't pinpoint what exactly

[hybrid gazelle]

Post golden Tasim infection

[dim plover]

That alone gaslit everyone into thinking that the game takes place over several years or something

Which unfortunately is really convincing because how in the hell did the player achieve everything they did in the span of less than twelve months

[dry drift]

im built different

[frozen turtle]

yeah like it doesnt make sense timeline wise but it was a cool callback

[dim plover]

God I keep mistaking you for Altakar

(Because you’re both CT with winged pokemon in your pfps)

[frozen turtle]

i wish they did smth similar like that with tasim in gavel cuz its kinda weird we never see him until queens recruit

[split night]

Him participating in RoL questline would make for a funny addition

[hybrid gazelle]

Mid game will be update later

[frozen turtle]

it would give him a better precedent to be chosen as sovereign

[split night]

anything to make us feel more attach to our friends always a plus for me

[frozen turtle]

to me its more that a ig "big" part of his character is he left wynn for gavel, yet we see or know absolutely nothing about that

even though we did the same thing

[hybrid gazelle]

The issue is that

Rol already got a lot on its plate

Adding Tasim on top would throw a lot of shit out of balance

What are see in queen’s recruit rn

It seems that Tasim will be invovle in orc war

So maybe we will get some quest splinter from rol thst invovle Tasim

[uneven basin]

Orc war tasim would make his comment on us being reckless in fort torann hit harder

Like "haven't you learned anything?" Type stuff

[proper iris]

whats orc war

[hybrid gazelle]

a "questline"

[proper iris]

why the "

[hybrid gazelle]

beccause in game it not really called a questline

but it interconnected like questline

so there is clearing the camp, blazing retribution, reclaiming the house, and all road to peaces

[proper iris]

ah okay thx

[frozen turtle]

i think having tasim in the orc war would work + help it stay more connected
or something in the gylia plains as well cuz that area could use some tasim

[hybrid gazelle]

Orc war would benefit him grealy consider his role in Fruma story

[uneven basin]

also imo gavel stroyline should spend more time on the fact that you're killibng sentient beings

[frozen turtle]

I like the fact the player kills a bunch of orcs, wears their skin and then becomes friends with the orcs

and that it isn’t really brought up what the player did again

[uneven basin]

tbf it's the orcs bring up the fact you killed their brethren often enough

it's just that afterwarss you kida go back to senseless killing

ig it's okay if they're trolls or panda ppl or skyraiders or

[hybrid gazelle]

this should be the dillima to begin with

consider how player decapitated the 3 orcs leaders

whichi s like

[frozen turtle]

The game is very picky and choosey on which species are allowed to be killed

[hybrid gazelle]

many mobs in gavel shown the sign of being sapient

but the game often brushing it off

another added list to MIDvel

[frozen turtle]

Honestly the entire eltom racism plot line is honestly kinda tame considering the orcs, doguns and other species just get murdered

[hybrid gazelle]

Not wanting human to settle in Gavle is reasonable

it just

the quest never fucking talk about it

it 100% make sense that villagers do not want human here

[frozen turtle]

At least their not just executing every human (I don’t think)

[hybrid gazelle]

but at the same time the quest does 0 fucking attempt to justifeid even tho it is

[uneven basin]

hidden city feels outdated asl

[hybrid gazelle]

allowing humans into gavel to settle in

just mena the ENTIRE POPULATION OF WYNN

would move to Gavel

and like

Gavel over overpopulated

cause who the fuck

want to stay in Wynn

like srly who

[frozen turtle]

gavel is already cramped in various species

Corkus is open to the masses

Idk if it is

[hybrid gazelle]

Corkus also gatekept

it is

[uneven basin]

there's villagers moving to wynn so some ppl wanna move at least

[hybrid gazelle]

that why we act as envoy

[frozen turtle]

But honestly I’d try to move to corkus way before gavel

[hybrid gazelle]

villagers moving to Wynn at least has a reaosn

it could ba job

it could be a family matter

[uneven basin]

plus honestly wynn at the time we exploreit feels relatively peaceful

[hybrid gazelle]

it could be housing space or some shit whatever

but like

if you are human

YOU DO NOT WANT TO LIVE IN WYNN

that shit is a fucking hell hole

and the moment humans move from wynn

villagers would have 0 reason to stay there

so it a chain reaction that could fuck entire Gavel

jsut because they let human move in

[frozen turtle]

Troms is the only place in Wynn I’d be comfortable staying at

[hybrid gazelle]

the economy also fucked

Knowing how outdated troms is

[uneven basin]

depends where tbh the only places I would call hell holes are nermract and rymek, maybe nesaak

[hybrid gazelle]

they probalby will lore update Troms to make it worst place to live

[hybrid gazelle]

You fail to consider

that if you are human born into wynn

you would drafted into the army

[frozen turtle]

Are you ignoring the literal hell hole in the centre around the plains

[slim belfry]

yeah imagine living in detlas or elkurn

[uneven basin]

it's next to deltas which seems pretty sweet

[frozen turtle]

The entire plains is under threat of the corruption, Nemract is full of dead people, Almuj is full of curses and poverty, Rymek just sucks and Nessie is permafrost

[uneven basin]

that's an issue in and off itself tbh

[frozen turtle]

Literally everywhere but Troms sucks

The worst thing is just wild life

[uneven basin]

it doesn't look that way actually

like all citizens don't seem to be drafted

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah because

this is also the same game that use admiral

as a millitary rank

but yes realistically

[frozen turtle]

They might’ve used too but either way all the fruma recruits it’s probably not necessary

[hybrid gazelle]

citizens would be drafted

Dude

[uneven basin]

honestly I get all of these points i just wish we felt it more

[hybrid gazelle]

if my fucking coutnry

have literally MADETORY MILLITRAY TRAINNING

what make you think

a province

that on constnat war against undead for 1000 years

would not have one

[uneven basin]

oh no i just meant it as not everyone is an active soldier

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah ofc not everyone

[frozen turtle]

In a journey beyond there is like 8 new recruits per day

[hybrid gazelle]

but it's a high chance

[frozen turtle]

which I think would’ve reduced the need for a draft/mandatory military

[uneven basin]

living in the wynn province is more like having a damocles than constant hell holery

[frozen turtle]

It’s probably still encouraged either by like pride or money

Honestly the ocean is the top location to be, Selchar is the safest town

[uneven basin]

true true there's some neat steps being taken to make wyn feel more like the war province hope to see more of that

[uneven basin]

thak for skien and pirates for keeping it dangerous :D

[frozen turtle]

That’s just a small part of the ocean

And if u just stay cozy in selfhar

[hybrid gazelle]

also update on Ana stuff

[frozen turtle]

Selchar

Ur probably fine

[hybrid gazelle]

Ocean lore oudated as shit

but you could go into the idea of

Selchar trying to be capital of ocean and try to establish order and stuff

I think that could be really cool

the premise of Ocean being relatively recent new region for everyone in the world

[frozen turtle]

I can’t wait for ocean rework 2049

One of the pros and kinda cons of the ocean is everything is so disconnected

So u can get unique small areas

But nothing fits together

[silk ravine]

The lingering effects of Troms being the endgame city for a good few years of Wynncraft

[silk ravine]

Honestly it always surprises me that there are zero quests involving Skien

Outside of spending all of 2 minutes on the island to find Mooington

Zhight Island has more relevance somehow

[pallid rain]

We need some those ocean cult stuff

[split night]

idk about you but Rymek sounds awesome for thieves and bandits to live in

[copper breach]

Why does the caravan driver remember tasim, aledar, and the soldier clearly?

He mentions like 3 people that originally came

[mossy badge]

He remembers every1 just like the king

[copper breach]

There are so many recruits

[mossy badge]

They just have good memory 🤯

[copper breach]

It's been at least a year

[mossy badge]

Not even that much lol

[copper breach]

He's probably ferried hundreds of recruits in lore

[hybrid gazelle]

wait did it ever mention he remember them all

or what

I might have miss that dialogue

[copper breach]

He said part of the original 3

and tournament

[hybrid gazelle]

I mean I expect him to know about tournament

but the original 3?

let me check

[mossy badge]

Doesn't the king also say he remembers every recruit 🔥

[copper breach]

It's not wise to be here— After all, you weren't the one out of your group of three that got permission to stay. Yeah, I heard about the tournament results.

idk

[hybrid gazelle]

ah I see

pretty sure he got just got informed taht all

[copper breach]

It 100% refers to tasim, aledar, and the player

[hybrid gazelle]

I dont think he particularly remembering it

but more like informed

consider he mention tournament in the first place

consider fruma recruit is a program

it highl they would have records to keep in check how many recruits they send out, including their names

I mean it would make sense

[vocal rapids]

Yeah, I mean if two out of a group of 3 made it into the "best warriors" Of the province it's likely fruma made some note of that trio

[mystic fulcrum]

Why player did not go into insane when go into the nether

[split night]

Not nether, it's Realm of War

[vocal rapids]

Player have no brain

[split night]

and also, we don't really know

[vocal rapids]

Player empty from inside

[regal spire]

We know, cause the beast is there now

[split night]

Not really, in one of Anathema post raid dialogs, the emptiness is a mask to hide something deeper
a familiar spark

[vocal rapids]

I am aware

I was just making a joke

[split night]

neat

[regal spire]

Also, old lore aplenty in Theorick’s quest

Better to ignore it and only focus on the newer stuff

[split night]

we don't really have the certainty to trust old quests anymore

xd

[vocal rapids]

But I do believe the player does have somewhat of a blank slate of a soul, which is why we end up doing whatever the fuck anyone asks us to do as quests no matter how weird throughout our journey this is my headcannon

[regal spire]

(But, it could just as easily be justified as him being attacked, then cursed, by a demon)

[vocal rapids]

Canon

However u spell that one

[split night]

it's okay honestly
since player's Character is up to interpretation, you could use this as a "canon" for your character

[hybrid gazelle]

actually

CT mention before that the boons you pick

is gameplay representation of the corruption

which is how Theorick gone insane

so my interptation of this is that

Theorick spend so low in RoW and seen so many dog shit boons

he gone insane

[split night]

you mean the debuff in the third challenge?

[hybrid gazelle]

yes

the debuff in the third challenges are corruption

that why you cant just not taking them

[split night]

that's actually pretty neat

[vocal rapids]

That's kinda cool

[split night]

we got corrupted still but strong enough to witstand it somehow

[vocal rapids]

Yeah

[hybrid gazelle]

Another reason WTP is awesome raid

[split night]

I love WTP

it's literally feeding us so many lores rn

[hybrid gazelle]

imagine if NOL get rework

One of the boons can get decay

and decay boons retain the buff they have but also heavy drawback

so you have option to get the boons that you uslaly take or pick another boons

[split night]

you're really pushing for the Nol Rework huh? xd
no complain though, if it make the raid better, so why not rework it along side RoL questline too

[mystic fulcrum]

Should make orphion way stronger than anathema

[vocal rapids]

He has a whole diary of ROL rewrite

[hybrid gazelle]

you mean document

[vocal rapids]

Close enough

[vocal rapids]

Would you share it?

[regal spire]

Oh, yeah, I forgot about the whole “boons are corruption” thing

[fallow heart]

I wonder why the player doesn't get corrupted as easily
Could be a number of factors

[regal spire]

So old lore still checks out

[hybrid gazelle]

no becuase it outdated

[regal spire]

We’re only in there for a bit

And, the beast is there

[hybrid gazelle]

then you need to consider why this also apply to Tasim, Sui, and Zeph

who also went in there alongside player

[regal spire]

However, we do get corrupted in the fight. We’re just better at resisting it fr

[hybrid gazelle]

if we take in fight with full canon

[mystic fulcrum]

But they are no where to be seen, no tasim in wtp raid

[hybrid gazelle]

then sui, tasim, and Zeph

also withstand corruption

[hybrid gazelle]

they are in the raid tho?

you see them

they are your party member

[regal spire]

Tasim makes sense, Sui can, too, but Zeph might not actually resist it 🤯

Zeph will die

[hybrid gazelle]

Zeph just awesome like that

[fallow heart]

Im guessing that for tasim its due to the blessing
And sui cuz magic

[hybrid gazelle]

ice magic

Zeph just being cool and awesome

[fallow heart]

That makes a lot of sense lowkey

[hybrid gazelle]

this could apply to explain how they can withstand corruption

but then again you get Zpeh

so like

in the end, itn ota bout their power

[fallow heart]

Zeph can just outmaneuver the corruption

[hybrid gazelle]

Theorick likely just get corrupted

[regal spire]

I just think it’s the fact Ana’s there

[hybrid gazelle]

because he spend too much time in RoW

[regal spire]

That, too

Bro went in alone, basically

[hybrid gazelle]

While player case

or the gang in this case

only go to RoW in short amount of time

basically

wnet into the spire

find a way up

to fight Anathema

and that it

[regal spire]

I wonder what RoL and RoD smell like

[hybrid gazelle]

Due to Anathema's absence, it likely why Theorick take so long in RoW

[split night]

I think we might emit an Aura that keep everyone normal when corrupted in the raid

[regal spire]

Cause RoW smells like sulfur

[hybrid gazelle]

because the thing that he looking forward to beat is not even in the realm to begin with

[fallow heart]

Wouldn't that amplify the corruption
Only way it wouldn't is if the "strands" are weaker closer to the boss due to them being such a large concentration of that element

[hybrid gazelle]

they fact everyone got a debuff boons

m,ean that this is not the case

everyone get affected by corruption

[regal spire]

I think it’s more that she has better control of that realm if she’s in it

[hybrid gazelle]

it just not long enough to be fatal

[split night]

fun theory, it was fun while it lasted
well i mean it lasted like 5 seconds

[hybrid gazelle]

getting influenced by corruption does not mean death

it still recoverable

[split night]

yeah

[hybrid gazelle]

we see this in corrupted village

[hasty beacon]

Well rol has a ton of flowers

[split night]

Death is just, the last stage of corruption, like getting cancer except the cancer is a little bit sentience

[fallow heart]

Again, wouldn't she amplify the corruption in that case?
There's no reason to just let the player walk in and try to kill you

[regal spire]

Look at the fight

Corruption doesn’t just touch you and infect you, it’s quite gradual in general

But, in the fight, we see it actually can be more effective

[split night]

I imagine that she sever her connection with the realm for so long that she is just not too used to controlling it
since you know, the Realm acts on its own for a very long time after her departure

otherwise she would have just called off the corruption in Wynn and not sending more Fruman to it

[fallow heart]

I mean all of this just means that the people who got corrupted (corrupter of worlds, theorick, ext) must have spent quite a while inside RoW

[hybrid gazelle]

IF RoW was a human

because that just a legend

we dont know what is RoW extactly

[pine flower]

you mean cow right?

[hybrid gazelle]

CoW

yeah

Consider Bak'al unabel to control it

I lead it toward being a devil

just

very outdated one

if CoW ever get remake

it likel become a devil

[pine flower]

i just figured itd be a cow, we know how pigmen are made after all

[hybrid gazelle]

Pigmen likely will not be canon

consider not only because it heavily tie it with Wynncraft but also pigman lore overall just

do not make sense for current iteration of Corruption

[pine flower]

i mean yeah, but it was probably more canon when CoW was made

[mossy badge]

I was about to say lol

[hybrid gazelle]

not really that close? CoW just have a problem where it just green

but beside that it just

a skeleton

so that line up with skeleton

Pigmen on other hand just

off rthe rail with the fact that the yare pig

that got mutated into sapient creature

with enoug intellect to form a group structure

[fallow heart]

I do hope they update CoW model

[hybrid gazelle]

they will

it jsut gonna be long time

[regal spire]

The pigmen are said to be “not quite corrupted, but not quite normal”. They’re not actually corrupted, guys, they’re being shocked by darkness spikes!

[heady ridge]

kinda funny how irrelevant CoW is rn compared to like 5 years ago

[hybrid gazelle]

pigmen lore just odd

but like

oh yeah now

COW fucking suck

CoW literally like

has no presencce in the timeline

despite being htere since the start of the war

[pine flower]

oh true i also form complex hierarchies when i get startled

[regal spire]

CoW sucked back then, too. Cutscenes were the only cool part

[hybrid gazelle]

Annie is what CoW wish to be

[heady ridge]

CoW used to have aura back when there was barely any mainline lore

[civic flame]

CoW was the original wynncraft final boss

[hybrid gazelle]

CoW got fucking lore crept

it insane

[regal spire]

Anyone else love how AHC still has old trom’s used in its cutscene, dungeon scroll merchant and everything?

[pine flower]

'lore creep' is a crazy concept

[split night]

lorecreep??
insane term

[heady ridge]

man, I miss old RoL

[split night]

xd

[regal spire]

Also, the CoW cutscene is just him kinda running around

[heady ridge]

like, it sucked, but I miss it

[regal spire]

No you don’t miss it, dude, it was shit back then

That was a low point in your gavel journey

[civic flame]

Old RoL was bad

[pine flower]

i miss that one couple

[heady ridge]

I just kinda want to wander that shitty terrain again lol

o yea, those folks

[regal spire]

5 minutes of wandering, only to be utterly bored by how garbage it is

[heady ridge]

can't believe wynn removed them smh

[regal spire]

Shattered minds had a better world 😭

[heady ridge]

pre gavel reborn gavel was so shitty, but also charming

[regal spire]

It was NOT charming

[heady ridge]

ehhh charming enough to be playable and make plenty of us stick around until the end

[pine flower]

nostalgic fo sure

[regal spire]

Shattered Minds was “charming”, RoL was just shattered minds, but with literally nothing in it

[heady ridge]

back when 1k metres under was considered an s tier quest lol

[regal spire]

Old gavel made me almost quit, it was so bad

[pine flower]

and more block vomit

somehow

[regal spire]

Of ugly af lime greens and yellows 🤮

[heady ridge]

ocean was (is) honestly way worse than old gavel ngl

[regal spire]

So ugly to look at

[heady ridge]

dead island, zhight island, maro peaks

annoying af quests all around

[pine flower]

zight island is fine imo

[heady ridge]

quest was painful, but I like the island itself tbh

skien island was peak tho

[pine flower]

visually feels a little outdated

interesting content and lore

[heady ridge]

Skien is a top tier character

[regal spire]

Maro peaks was at least unique in its design, no matter how shit it was. It also had actual objectives, something RoL did not

[vocal rapids]

Funniest quest was Order of the grook

I did not expect to be in hogwarts

[heady ridge]

Skien wins no diff against the rest of Wynn verse

[vocal rapids]

Wait I take that back, funniest was meeting shrek

[fallow heart]

Dead island DESPERATELY needs an update
Same for wynnexcavation

[pine flower]

what if they reowrked skiens to turn the signs into npc books

or even just torn pages

[heady ridge]

would be cool tbh

[regal spire]

That’s what they’ll do, dw

[heady ridge]

I do hope they'll leave the brutality of it all though

[pine flower]

goated

[regal spire]

Skien’s just a low priority rework rn

[hybrid gazelle]

I try to sketch CoW redesign once but I always hate it

[regal spire]

CoW should’ve been reworked into Annie’s legs

[vocal rapids]

Anni with legs

[regal spire]

But, now we know annie has legs, so that won’t work

[fallow heart]

They should make it into a centipede
I think that would be dope

[vocal rapids]

Corrupter of legs

[hybrid gazelle]

I made an attempt with centipede design before

[heady ridge]

is CoW still the leader of the mining crew? or was that removed?

[regal spire]

They assume it to be, but they don’t know what it is

That’s why it’s green 😭

[heady ridge]

"first miner to cross the portal" is kinda fire backstory for CoW ngl

[regal spire]

Mining + corruption = emeralds (old source of corruption )

[silk ravine]

IIRC years and years ago around the time Gavel was new there was a brief moment where the Skiens Island mobs weren’t updated to “post-gavel” standards and they were just OG wynncraft mobs.

[heady ridge]

just nuke the portal with LE

[heady ridge]

damn lol

[heady ridge]

I miss that lore bit tbh, current portal lore feels weird imo

[hybrid gazelle]

this was one of experimental design

[heady ridge]

whole Aldorei's Secret does

[hybrid gazelle]

but overall

a devil meant to be a mockery of man

[fallow heart]

Its interesting that they were mining emeralds before they knew of villagers and their capitalism

[hybrid gazelle]

it's a legends

it not 100% true

it's dubious info

[silk ravine]

Old ROL at the very least had a cool sentient race for the area. It wasn’t a very good quest though lol it was just a standard fetch quest.

I do kind of miss the heliolux though.

[heady ridge]

finally getting to RoL and being met with a fetch quest instead of Orphion rescue fight was so lame 😭

[silk ravine]

Old Gavel felt like a fever dream lol at the time it was incredible but looking back at it now it feels ancient

[heady ridge]

praise 1.20 🙏

[regal spire]

I think it was interesting that it used to be the fault of nonstop progress that led to its inevitable destruction, but I think Orphion using its already established influence to play into its role of false divinity to trick a population of people into freeing it is similarly cool

[silk ravine]

Old Kander is better though and I’ll stand by that statement.

[heady ridge]

ehhh disagree, old kander was just spooky forest #19

[regal spire]

Old Kander is cool, but I like the decay plus hollow serenity stuff

[heady ridge]

visually I mean

eye of the storm was top tier

[silk ravine]

New one is just Weirds (the most boring mob type in the entire game) and lots of terracotta

[regal spire]

Lexdale witch trials is not a good main quest for the location, though

[abstract snow]

i feel like dark forest and kander should be merged tbh, theyre fairly similar to each other and dark forest has like nothing unique about it

[silk ravine]

Eye of the Storm had so much potential

[heady ridge]

lf witch trials in lexdale witch trials 😭

[silk ravine]

Dark forest and Kander are both super under-utilised tbh they feel like filler between Llevigar and Cinfras

[abstract snow]

and dark forest is such a generic name 😭 theres a dark forest in like everything

[silk ravine]

Even Rymek has more use

[hybrid gazelle]

TUNNEL DWELLER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[fallow heart]

Lexdale is very underwhelming

[regal spire]

The trial is actually a thinly veiled attempt at hiding what they really wanted the quest to be: Tarzan Simulator

[silk ravine]

The fact that Elkurn has more use than Gelibord and Lexdale combined is wild

[heady ridge]

add Man From the Fog to dark forest, boom, peak rework

[rugged trench]

My favorite new quest was “the missing piece” I think that one was excellently made
From the gameplay to the story to the cutscenes

[silk ravine]

In a way it’s supposed to be, but you spend all of five minutes there.

[heady ridge]

still can't believe I cried over a mf wynncraft quest

[rugged trench]

I also like how it started out seemingly just like a typical fetch quest tier 1 quest with the post man guy but it slowly devolved into being very lore important

[fallow heart]

Personally I enjoyed apotheosis the most but missing piece is def up there in quests

[rugged trench]

Ima be honest the fruma storyline was interesting don’t get me wrong but I think I enjoyed rol and silent expanse quests better

[fallow heart]

Lexdale quest doesn't even take place in lexdale 😭
you're there for 5 seconds and then never again

[rugged trench]

I wonder what the most liked quest is

[silk ravine]

Like I said, even Elkurn sees more use than Lexdale or Gelibord

In a way Gavel is just too gigantic for its own good I guess

[fallow heart]

Personally I really enjoyed fantastic voyage

[silk ravine]

There’s quite a lot of “filler” areas while in Wynn and Fruma you don’t really get that

[paper wyvern]

its kinda funny that lexdale has literally no reason to be there once you finish the singular quest and yet its a valid respawn point

like it doesnt even have prof stations

[fallow heart]

I agree

[silk ravine]

Wynn I guess has the ice canyon as a “filler” area but that’s really it, and Fruma doesn’t really have one

[rugged trench]

oh I forgot about that one

I remember it being good

[silk ravine]

Outside of the valley near Fort Torann which is just for a mini quest

[rugged trench]

That was a mind trip tho

[silk ravine]

LMAO

[rugged trench]

I also enjoyed ???
Definitely the most unique quest

[paper wyvern]

Yeah definitely down a few slots after fruma but my favorite pre fruma

[rugged trench]

IMO

Still waiting to see sosoh

🥹

[fallow heart]

Fruma was just such a big leap in quality all around
I really hope they go back to other quests and give them the fruma polish

[hybrid gazelle]

IF YOU LAUGH

YOU GO TO HELL

[silk ravine]

That would take years but I hope it happens

Bob’s Reincarnation with Fruma quality would be incredible

[split night]

im going to hell

[paper wyvern]

no the mind trip is shattered minds

[rugged trench]

Actually
In my entire time playing fruma
I noticed that every single mob was either a custom model or just a player model EXCEPT ONE
One of the auburn forest world events uses the normal Minecraft vex as an enemy but besides that everything is original

[paper wyvern]

well actuallly thats a regular trip

[rugged trench]

Super jump in quality

[silk ravine]

I do kind of miss the classic minecraft models tbh

[split night]

Pre Fruma is like a game developed by an indie studio of highschoolers
Fruma is Team Cherry quality

[paper wyvern]

I really do hope they rework the bob quests

[silk ravine]

I do get why they’re moving away from them though

[paper wyvern]

like one of the animals is a cave enemy and another is an optional side path in a quest

[silk ravine]

As long as they don’t go full Hypixel and try and act like this is somehow “above” minecraft

[paper wyvern]

meanwhile the third one is a quest reward

[tiny hinge]

I had a natural encounter with the “Panic Zealot” and ive gotta say thats gotta be the best experience wynn ever made

[fallow heart]

After replaying through all the quests like 2/3 of them need a visual rework
It would take a really long time but it would def improve the game greatly

[tiny hinge]

whats the lore behind it

[hybrid gazelle]

Panic Zealot is a relik reanimated by dark influence

[rugged trench]

Wasn’t that like
A shaman weapon but alive and evil

[paper wyvern]

The lore is wynncord

[hybrid gazelle]

Both light and dark are capable of granting life

[silk ravine]

One of them forces you to go to Maro Peaks 😭

[edgy loom]

oh hell no, this is literally just the corruption 😭

[rugged trench]

Bruh wasn’t that the place that requires you to wear like a level 1 helmet to access

😭

[paper wyvern]

boy do I love "you need to have a climbing helmet to go within 500 blocks of this island"

[rugged trench]

What is the point

[fallow heart]

War too seeing the demons

[silk ravine]

Yes iirc, idk if you still need to. I haven’t been back there in ages.

All my homies hate Maro peaks

[hybrid gazelle]

I am talking about granting life to inaniamte objct

[hasty beacon]

“Every mob in fruma has a custom model or a player model!” The sinister water tower creature:

[fallow heart]

Yep maro still requires climbing helmet

[rugged trench]

?

[paper wyvern]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmaaaaaaaaaaggiiiiiiiiccc

[rugged trench]

What’s that?

[silk ravine]

What does that use?

[hasty beacon]

Its an armorstand mob

[rugged trench]

Ah

[tiny hinge]

its the only boss to deal damage to our build

Is there anything else harder than panic zealot

for enemy encounters

that was the only one to actually like damage my build

by a heavy amount too such a heavy hitter

[paper wyvern]

well yeah it has 99% true damage

its attacks are very weak thouhg

[rugged trench]

Yknow I remember a while back certain quests kinda gave nuggets of info about the player but they removed/retconned those so the “player” character can fit anyone controlling it

Like dodegar’s ultimate weapon was originally a dagger for all classes and iirc dodegar asked you to use it which kinda implied the player was canonically as assassin but I believe they changed it to be the weapon of your class

I also remember in that one sky islands quest where you had to buy a wig to appear feminine to enter the women’s only pirate clan thing but they also removed that as ig it implied the player canonically wasn’t feminine?

Idk I just think it’s interesting how they try to keep the player as ambiguous as possible to fit anyone controlling it behind the screen, it’s neat

[hybrid gazelle]

hey

notice how these quests are in gavel?

[paper wyvern]

Pretty sure it's still a dagger

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah extactly

gavel fucking suck

[split night]

I know i'm beautiful when i do the skyraider queen quest