📚lore_discussion

[slim belfry]

it means rainbow names what the heck
that's neat

[dim plover]

(I'm waiting btw)

I'll be here AFKing for a bit I'm doing something else beside it atm

[slim belfry]

yeah trying to think about what the queen could say in this funky hypothetical situation

[uneven basin]

wasn't qira intersex rep at some point ?

[hybrid gazelle]

no

she was jokingly being called trans

which is like

very poor taste joke

[slender copper]

The concept that everyone is aware of their dialog portraits is a very funny concept. (Can you imagine if we did the Mario icon treatment and certain words have a specific character associated with?)

Tasim: I wish that 💀 Aledar was he- why is there a skull!?

[hybrid gazelle]

given the context

[dim plover]

Can't add them here unfortunately (well, I can, but then I'll have to manually input the pixel length of every custom symbol I put in as a typable character and I'm too lazy to do that)

[slender copper]

lol no worries.

[dim plover]

Because the new Wynncraft dialogue system has the length of characters down to the pixel

[slim belfry]

Her Majesty (this portrait)
It was a pleasure ridding the Heartlands of those rebels. I too have faced annoyances within my province, but nothing is beyond my means to wash them away. I look forward to working with you again, Yharim.

why did I type this

[dim plover]

Funny you say that

[slim belfry]

gosh

I can't get over that

[pine flower]

skim? skim milk?

ohh skin

[slim belfry]

anyway based on the simplicity I assume 32 liquid emeralds might be enough

[edgy loom]

hold on twin

[dim plover]

Okay the change in this texture is annoying me

One moment

[edgy loom]

for that price I might just whip up photoshop 🔥

[dim plover]

Hi ok back sorry that took way too long

[slim belfry]

hmm does this sound right to you

[slim belfry]

okay nvm if a texture change took that long then definitely 32

[dim plover]

Not enough space

[slim belfry]

SHOOT

NOOOO

[dim plover]

I just needed to find the new custommodeldata

[slim belfry]

hold on I could shorten it

maybe now?

[dim plover]

I just realized I'm using the wrong portrait

[slim belfry]

this is very on topic since I hope this is lore accurate-ish

two powerful rulers believing to do things for the right reasons
(kill a lot of people)

and both die by the player yaaaaay

[dim plover]

So uh

where's the text

[slim belfry]

oh same message, just edited

[dim plover]

Oh lol

could've told me, bruh

[slim belfry]

probably barely enough to squeeze

[primal anchor]

you refer of course to slykaar and ynnos

[slim belfry]

huh

maybe sure

[slim belfry]

THANK YOU THIS IS SO GOOD

so when do I pay you

[dim plover]

Uh, now I guess

Are you sure you want to pay me 32LE

[mossy badge]

Bro thinks he's mrbeast

[brave atlas]

Do you guys think making guard golems out of humans (villagers maybe idk) is worth it? (The iron heart quest)

[slim belfry]

ok based on average time to work in relation to lootrunning and raids it seems more like 24 le

[dim plover]

If you're paying me for me recreating the entire dialogue system to indistinguishable levels then yeah fair enough

If you're paying me for making that line of dialogue specifically I gotta disclose that I literally just typed this in

But I won't complain that's money for me

[slim belfry]

eh

[edgy loom]

tell me how to recreate the font of the text box and I'll be pumping out le 😎

[slim belfry]

I've seen "worse" payments

[dim plover]

Anyways I'll join the game now

What world

I gotta leave after this anyway

Lemme know if you want any more dialogues tomorrow
I can pump these out endlessly

[edgy loom]

don't say that

[mystic fulcrum]

the door under war torn palace is not finish yet?

[edgy loom]

we need scarcity!!

[dim plover]

I also have these effects

[mossy badge]

Nope

[slim belfry]

na27 in detlas I guess

but yeah you have a point

[dim plover]

Oh I'm already here lol

[slim belfry]

I think 16le if it's that easy

[edgy loom]

FUCK

why would you say it's easy 😔

[mossy badge]

Atp why give money

[slim belfry]

screw it 32

[mossy badge]

If purple emerald tells me all the unicode chars i can easily recreate it

[dim plover]

Oh wait missed this

[slim belfry]

they're all normal letter characters

[dim plover]

It's just english but with the {"font":""} set to the font

[mossy badge]

The dialogue box itself and a portrait and the dividers.. etc are not

[slim belfry]

ohhhh you mean those

yeah idk

[dim plover]

Those I just copied from the resource pack

[mossy badge]

Im not looking through it 🔥

[dim plover]

They all look like question marks in boxes so I can't distingush them outside of me copying

[dim plover]

not my problem

I did it and now I have a working system

[slim belfry]

what I gave was also a donation for the stuff I've had from you too anyway

it's really cool to see how much you've made

maybe one day I'll make my own wynn related stuff

I have thought about lore stuff but just a thought

[edgy loom]

oh wait I had long mastered the arts of wynn textbox editing

how much le for this one gng 🔥

[slim belfry]

this is something majin himself would make

[mossy badge]

W mastery

[slim belfry]

it's certainly lore accurate

[dry aspen]

"Signature Look of Superiority"

[slender copper]

The "VIP" sticker Majin has

[mossy badge]

Yo guys i mastered the recretion of the dialogue system 🔥

[slim belfry]

this is pretty accurate considering some dialogue ingame

[edgy loom]

[hybrid gazelle]

so far I like the design

but gotta see if I will hate it in 1-2 months

[dim plover]

Thanks

Oh speaking of

I revamped my mob ability system last week to me more flexible and allow for stacking unlike the last version

Unfortunate thing was the last version took several months and the new (current) version took less than a week

I have to trash the code of the old version

So that sucks lol

Anyways I filmed progress but haven't posted it anywhere yet
here it is

Ok that's all I'll head off now

[slim belfry]

dang yeah that stinks

[edgy loom]

recreate wynncraft as a datapack and then threaten to release it so you can coerce the wynncraft team

[slim belfry]

[dim plover]

threaten to release it
Did you think I’m recreating a fully-ish functional Wynncraft for shits and giggles or smth

Oh well I guess fake cutscenes

But no this is all in preparation for playable projects like Hidden Side

[dry aspen]

make fake story spoilers to troll

[edgy loom]

wait really???

I did think it was just to make fake cutscenes lol

[dim plover]

Oh right this
Kthxbye

[slim belfry]

the company being Iron Heart is a nice touch

[dim plover]

https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/masked-memories-hero-beta-update-2-2-first-look-and-review.321123/

ok bye for real this time

[whole river]

Tbf is it though

She’s the strongest in Gavel bar the statement merchant Qira

[slim belfry]

Lari is supposed to be stronger than the player

[digital swan]

why is she easy to kill then

[radiant harbor]

She cutscene stops us from killing her

[digital swan]

tbh I've always wanted to like get a setup that deals however much it is to one shot from cutscene so I can properly kill her

but mf deals NO damage

[hybrid gazelle]

Oh his another talk about lari boss fight again

Okay to make it clear

Lari fight was made in 1.20 which is gavel reborn

Therefore the balancing of those time are very different due to lack of ability tree

So when 2.0 roll up

Player power get spike very high

Whcih result in lari fight being much easier fight than it was during 1.20

Not saying it not possible to do something like this in 1.20

But overall still rarer

Summary this coukd also happen to fruma boss in 10 years or some shit if player get another power boost focus updare

In similar scale to spell rebound

But I don’t think that possible

[radiant harbor]

Yeah that's a lot of hp

[hybrid gazelle]

Unless melee bound is that crazy

[mystic fulcrum]

Lari fight is pretty hard at level

[whole river]

The world will be at peace as soon as people realize gameplay and lore is separate for a reason

Swear it pops up like every time lmao

[mystic fulcrum]

Lari should be somewhat comparable to sovereigns in terms of combat capabilities

[hybrid gazelle]

Consider Lari got blessing from unflitered source like Bak'al

her power is more on par with him than the soverigns

[mystic fulcrum]

Orphion blessings is not unfiltered?

[hybrid gazelle]

So far we dont see Orphion having shell like Anathema

so it assumed that Lari blessing was unfliter like Bak'al

because soverign blessing was blessing done through the focus of the shell

as mention in the post raid

[edgy loom]

I don't think we killed enough sovereigns during our time in fruma

[hybrid gazelle]

and consider Lari power is literally have to do with Light itself

[mystic fulcrum]

Pure light

[hybrid gazelle]

like Bak'al with his power to control corruption

compare to soverigns who have blessing focus on like

cosmic magic

time magic

or whatever

[mystic fulcrum]

Lari is meant to be stronger than bak'al

Wondering what would happen to lari when she meet dern beast

[viscid meteor]

Is bob confirmed to be a rainbow slapper

[mystic fulcrum]

No

[mossy badge]

Yes

He used morph 🤑

Thats why he was so strong

[mossy badge]

Not like pieces of gear associated with him are rainbow or anything.. 🔥

[gloomy idol]

2/3 of the Bob gear is rainbow + the weapon has rainbow sp

= rainbow slapper confirmed

[slender copper]

w-what?

[whole river]

I honestly think lari puts belt to ass on the sovereigns

Post-pacifism of course

[gloomy idol]

Bro is dead

[hybrid gazelle]

Lari probably coukd consider just like Bak’al she just has better blessing

[viscid meteor]

Recent performance at detlas tells us that bob mastered the 5 elements

Definitely bob uses omniverse

[gloomy idol]

Is there actually new lore in the performances

I thought this festival was jut recycled

[errant brook]

bob the morph warrior

[mossy badge]

I think it is

[midnight oxide]

sooo i have been wondering... is aledar rex's brother? i'm honestly confused, because what kaio said at his grave behind the leaves headquarter seems to imply so, and the way rex describes her brother seems to fit to, but rex also went to look for her brother in the roughworks, where she found out he had gotten the boot already, and aledar was clearly a leaves member, and considering she joined the leaves later she would probably have met him there if he didn't actually get kicked and was there, unless he was gone again already when she arrived in auburn

[hybrid gazelle]

no

[midnight oxide]

or i'm just overthinking this and aledar just reminded her of her bro so thats why his "death" hit so hard for her in particular

[hybrid gazelle]

we met Rex brother already

[midnight oxide]

OH CAID

lmao

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah it's caid

[midnight oxide]

damn

how did you make the connection?

[edgy loom]

I recommend you replay recover the past

[midnight oxide]

i just did

[edgy loom]

or just watch a walkthrough in caid's section

[edgy loom]

huh really?

[midnight oxide]

i thought he was just some poor random roughworks guy lol

[edgy loom]

hm maybe the dialogue is post quest

have you talked to caid after it then?

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah and

Rex said her brother goes to Roughwork

and disappear there after talking to his friends about it

[midnight oxide]

nah, he dipped, i guess i will check his boat

[hybrid gazelle]

the guards that arrest Caid also mention how Caid have many offend before

[edgy loom]

his dialogue

[hybrid gazelle]

which make line up with Rex'story

with how Caid get into many trouble in highland

and send to Roughwork because of it

[midnight oxide]

yeah that fits

[hybrid gazelle]

also

have you just look at them

they literally just mitosis

[midnight oxide]

lol

[hybrid gazelle]

Also if Aledar is Rex brother

then she would met him already

[midnight oxide]

yeah thats what confused me too

so thanks for clearing it up

[vestal rivet]

dang the clothing color is somehow genetic as well

[whole river]

They really sent bro out in the same fit he had in the slums

Tragic

[vestal rivet]

would be cool if you could invite Fruma NPCs to Detlas come Wynnter given that the gates could just be open following Apotheosis
reunite the siblings for a bit

[midnight oxide]

i mean tasim and aledar kept their fits too

[midnight oxide]

that would be pretty sweet

[glossy shoal]

F that we got no connection whatsoever for aledar on fruma

[hybrid gazelle]

we have

he literally part of the leaves LOL

[midnight oxide]

well we know he was a leave

[glossy shoal]

Uh

[midnight oxide]

his grave is behind leaves hq

[glossy shoal]

I miss come lore yuppy xd

Tell me

[midnight oxide]

at the end tasim puts a letter there too

[vestal rivet]

wonder ig one of the graves is for Caid then? as Caid would've been effectively dead as far as they were concerned once he was exiled

[glossy shoal]

His grave?

Were?!

[midnight oxide]

wait a sec

[stable arrow]

Is the roots of corruption the place where anathema initially entered the world?

Also is there anything you can do that’s new after apotheosis

[glossy shoal]

Can you pass me the coords

[vestal rivet]

we'd probably have record of a giant moth I think

[glossy shoal]

And can we find tasim after the raid completion?

[mossy badge]

Other than the grave interaction, no

[mossy badge]

Ye

[glossy shoal]

And Rex and company

[mossy badge]

Prolly

[midnight oxide]

-2265 -1220

[glossy shoal]

Were they r not in the hotel and I cannot find the hospital

[mossy badge]

Nope

[unique cedar]

We can find Rex?

[stable arrow]

Who’s grave

[vestal rivet]

weird that we get 0 interactions with Soosu, Zhiraok, or any of the leaves or the canopy following Apotheosis or WTP

[unique cedar]

afaik only Tasim now

They'll be added later probably

[mossy badge]

Visit the coords on the image above and u'll learn it

[unique cedar]

still a lot of things left to polish

[midnight oxide]

go to aledars grave

and snoop tasims letter

[unique cedar]

you can open the fruma gate

after apotheosis

[mossy badge]

"Polish" 😂 more like finish

[midnight oxide]

yeah at the grave

[glossy shoal]

Yeah really cool

Idw why the train animation but ok xd

[mossy badge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1071393285500829759/1420520316697968791/togif.gif

[midnight oxide]

oh and you can go to some door with rune symbols next to the raid, you can't open it tho

[glossy shoal]

Yeah been there

Really cool the graves near the resistance base

[midnight oxide]

yeah

you get an interaction at the beginning of the leaves questline with kaio too

[unique cedar]

No, that's when it is closed

[glossy shoal]

Tasim still sovereign

[unique cedar]

I mean open it from the inside

[glossy shoal]

What you can?

[unique cedar]

Also the train animation is there since you go to fruma through the tutorial area

[glossy shoal]

Noooo the letter were tasim write is the one aledar send when he told us that we send a letter to tasim

That really really appreciated

Reading the letter looks like we(player) are really on the third person prospective rather than an actual trio

[midnight oxide]

tasim was the original original sacrifice lmao

[glossy shoal]

Hahahahhah

At this point xd

We got like a half trio mission in the tutorial area

That's it

[midnight oxide]

that "maybe you didn't know him at all" really hits different after that letter

[glossy shoal]

Yeah

Ok now that tasim is gone from the tomb

We can find him?

Or is gone

[midnight oxide]

i havn't seen him since

[glossy shoal]

Kk

[hybrid gazelle]

This got rrwrite

[midnight oxide]

the letter?

[hybrid gazelle]

The sacrifice thing

The fourth never meant to be sacrifice now

[midnight oxide]

oh damn

good to know

i take back what i said then

maybe i should just replay the entire game at this point...

it seems half the things i say are based on outdated info

oh well

[glossy shoal]

Yeha really really appreciated the aledar part of the letter

[midnight oxide]

oh and you can also meet effal in ragni as a new recruit after the strong survive

[pearl zenith]

who is that

[mossy badge]

https://tenor.com/view/who-is-he-who-is-this-who-is-that-who-is-this-guy-who-is-he-peppa-pig-gif-11375013126139160285

[mossy badge]

Its the recruiter from the strong survive quest

[midnight oxide]

the guy who recruits you in the strong survive and then gets kicked for recruiting frumas most wanted criminal(trademark)

[pearl zenith]

ah I see, thats kinda funny

[midnight oxide]

yeah

[whole river]

I love that in the middle of a crisis they’re still memory wiping Frumans and kicking them out

[pearl zenith]

fr they just doing it for the love of the game 😭

https://tenor.com/view/mr-peabody-peabody-mr-peabody-and-sherman-dog-beagle-gif-5839182462084357606

[midnight oxide]

yeah

everything is fine if we pretend it is

[glossy shoal]

Oh yeah that's relly cool xd

[glossy shoal]

Hahahahah yeha xd

Just in case kick him out

Ah can someone help me figuring out that does the queen and the war rappresents ? Like the rappresentation with the mirror world guy what does it means

The queen is the real of war ? Or like what is she xd

[hybrid gazelle]

queen is a shard

anathema is a shard from the whole which is War

everything is a shard from War

Corruption
Devils

[pearl zenith]

the realm of war was born from the hated/fighting between light and dark and the queen is the embodiment of it, I guess the realm of war's version of Orphion and the dern beast? at least thats how I understood it

[hybrid gazelle]

Anathema is what Orphion and Saphanis is to their respective
However due to War being lesser than the twin that created it

it able to control its own power so as Anathema

[glossy shoal]

The what is anathema

Incarnation of war that pops out then queen is out of control?

[pearl zenith]

the queens real name / form. the Queen was a shell to fit in

[glossy shoal]

Ohhh

[pearl zenith]

thats why her skin was cracking in the fight in Apotheosis

[glossy shoal]

So in a sense anathema is the real "being" who adapted to a "human" life and rules on fruma

[pearl zenith]

yeah pretty much

[glossy shoal]

The how does her blessing works

She manage to make a guy immortal

And high cortisol tasim

[hybrid gazelle]

her blessing did not make people immortal

that wellsrping water

the blessing soverigns get are

they are what Bak'al and Lari has but focus, it lesser

rather than control the force, they strength power to control certain part of the world like cosmic magic, time magic, matter, and more

it a blessing that dependent on the person recieving it

IDK why but like

I probably did not get it

[spring kernel]

The same way orphion's does, just more focused when in her shell

[glossy shoal]

Mhh

[glossy shoal]

Oh i see

[vocal rapids]

So like, how does all this make orphion an equal evil to sephanis?

[hybrid gazelle]

both of them want to exert their will over physical plane

it does not matter who win

the world will end either way

[glossy shoal]

Yuppy xd

[vocal rapids]

But we don't see orphion corrupting dead people or making alive people corrupt to wreak havoc on others? Or is that because orphion was weakened he couldn't do that

[hybrid gazelle]

Orphion is weaken

but like in theory

if he has a chance

he would do it

it just the game being really fucking awful at conveying that

[glossy shoal]

So the talisman the guy has is not part of the blessing, but the phases on the boss fight were he is immortal it is

[spring kernel]

Saphanis also hasn't really like. Done that

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah that is all

corruption

[hybrid gazelle]

He got the blessing

oh wait

talisman??

[vocal rapids]

Yeah, I think thats what the game wants to tell us, but other than the first time we meet orphion where he makes us chose between the mayor and the doctor and maybe when the elder elf tells us he is moral less there's no real "bad" In orphion

[hybrid gazelle]

what you mean

[glossy shoal]

The thing that makes him immortal

[glossy shoal]

That he pass to rex

[hybrid gazelle]

ZHiraok?

[vocal rapids]

Another instance I guess is when Sov Two shows us what would happen if light takes iver

[hybrid gazelle]

oh that Nasin Charm

he imbue it with his time magic

so his revive is time reversion

[glossy shoal]

Yeah (just a difficult name XD)

[hybrid gazelle]

he is not immortal

as long as the charm is charged

he can come back

but if it not charge

he is dead

[glossy shoal]

Oh so that is also "part" of the blessings power

[hybrid gazelle]

it more like by product of the blessing

[glossy shoal]

Oh kkk

[vocal rapids]

Okay let me make sure I am not I'll informed, sephanis is the dern beast right? The opposite of orphion? The one who's spreading corruption and decay?

[spring kernel]

Corruption is something unrelated to dern

Otphion has as much involvement in it as saphanis

[gloomy idol]

Corruption is just light+dark=boom

[shut mist]

Corruption is just war

or the result of it

the no mans land

[glossy shoal]

Last thing if bak'al or referik(the neesak dungeon guy) who went into the real of war were corrupted in mind why we r a le to get there so easily

[hybrid gazelle]

he is not corrupted

[pearl zenith]

yes yes no

[hybrid gazelle]

he got Anathema's blessing

he is not undead

I dont thin khe is

he just fucking ugly

[glossy shoal]

Bruh xd

[shut mist]

bakal nearly died to the blessing.

[vocal rapids]

So I guess corruption is just the result of light and darkness clashing? I was under the influence corruption is the influence of darkness

[shut mist]

theorick we dont know

[hybrid gazelle]

you mean impression

[glossy shoal]

But he has the mind on the "right" place

[hybrid gazelle]

but yeah no corruption is not darkness

[pearl zenith]

light and dark fight each other, this creates the realm of war. This byproduct is what spreads corruption

[spring kernel]

Darkness is the influence of darkness

[hybrid gazelle]

SE is the land influence by darkness

[whole river]

It’s both, fruma kinda hammers it down too

[spring kernel]

Corruption is anathema's thing

[vocal rapids]

Okay that's what I was gathering too

[glossy shoal]

But we went into war real without problems ?

[hybrid gazelle]

we dont know yet why Theorick went mad

[vocal rapids]

So bakal went into the portal, met anathema and that's where he gained his power?

[hybrid gazelle]

it could be something else entirely

yeah

[glossy shoal]

Yeah

But he even a mental effect

Like he didn't lose his mind

[pearl zenith]

we haven't gone to the realm of war yet but well probably be fine due to the whole "blank slate" thing the queen and Sov 2 mentioned

[glossy shoal]

We start to serve the dark side

[hybrid gazelle]

dude

[glossy shoal]

We can put in that way

[hybrid gazelle]

what are you talking about

did you even finish fruma

[viscid heart]

whag

[glossy shoal]

No the portal is the war realm

[viscid heart]

yes we have

[shut mist]

we have been there.

[pearl zenith]

Wait when?

[hybrid gazelle]

did you play the raid

[glossy shoal]

The raid man

[gloomy idol]

I mean doesn’t lore explanation of he just went mad from corruption effects still apply

[pearl zenith]

OH

😭

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah but by that logic we should been the same too

[shut mist]

the raid sends us there

[glossy shoal]

That's what I get from the quest

[hybrid gazelle]

again we dont know the extact condition that he turn out this way

[pearl zenith]

Mb I somehow didn’t even realize that

[gloomy idol]

Player just built diff bro

[glossy shoal]

Yeah that was my question

[shut mist]

anathema did say she saw smth within us. a familiar spark... a cavern with nothing where there should be ... something

[viscid heart]

the reason we dont go crazy is actually because we are seeing it through a screen and are not actually there

[vocal rapids]

So, bakal was chill with anathema for like 300 or so years and then helped her make the "Queen Shell" And then eventually stuff went down in between them and Bakal just ended up supporting sephanis and started going off the rails in wynn?

[viscid heart]

🧠

[pearl zenith]

Wait so is the raid and the portal in Wynn the same place?

[hybrid gazelle]

pretty much it yeah

[hybrid gazelle]

no

it entirely different portals

when you broke the shell

the Weave open a new one to tell Anathema to fuck off

[vocal rapids]

Do we know why bakal decided to not be cool with queen

[glossy shoal]

The the lore is anyone who went there died , bak'al manage to return but now he change side , theodorik get "corrupted" on mind , and we player just went there chilling like nothing xd

[hybrid gazelle]

We dont know

but probably over petty shit but IDK

[shut mist]

the queen and bakal had different views,

[hybrid gazelle]

he did not change side after return

[viscid heart]

whats with the whole thing where the player has a bottomless pit where their self should be or whatever

[hybrid gazelle]

he literally gather tomes for Anathema

he left in and out

[shut mist]

the queen wanted to escape war

[pearl zenith]

What’s the weave?

[hybrid gazelle]

he switching side is entirely different reason

[shut mist]

bakal wanted to spread it

[hybrid gazelle]

we dont know
probably reality itself

[glossy shoal]

In the great context I mean

[gloomy idol]

To be continued lol

[vocal rapids]

Also, I read somewhere that after Bakal, Sov Two is the person anathema decided to be chill with so is she the first sovereign or Majin? If she is then why is she Sov "TWO"

[hybrid gazelle]

also

reminder

Sui, Taism, and Zeph goes iwth us into RoW

so it not just the player

it's also those 3

so whatever happen with Theorick is special case

and we dont know what it is

[spring kernel]

Her name is Two

[silk venture]

Wait so orphion could make themself a human shell like the queen?

[glossy shoal]

Wait what?

[hybrid gazelle]

yes

[glossy shoal]

When and how

[spring kernel]

She is Sovereign two because her Name is two

[hybrid gazelle]

the players you raid with are stand in for Sui, Tasim, and Zeph

[gloomy idol]

Canonically this is jut the case

[spring kernel]

He could, but he wouldn't know how and has no reason to

[hybrid gazelle]

So you raid with them

[gloomy idol]

You don’t have 4 player characters running around lol

[glossy shoal]

Ohhhhh really?

[spring kernel]

He doesn't hate himself

[vocal rapids]

I swear I remember reading a dialogue that said she's two because she's the second sovereign after majin

[silk venture]

To spread the glory of the light

[hybrid gazelle]

no

Gikyo came before Majin

Oru came from Gikyo

by that logic Gikyo is soverign two LOL

or any other number

whatever

[spring kernel]

Majin is quite recent

[hybrid gazelle]

her name is two

because she is the queen SECOND scion

not SOVERIGN

[spring kernel]

She was scion two

[hybrid gazelle]

She is the one after Bak'al

[vocal rapids]

Okay, maybe that was a theory I just had in my mind and just gaslit myself into thinking it was real

[spring kernel]

Go to the library

[glossy shoal]

Ok thx for the lore

[silk venture]

Can our name be two? Everyone just calls us solider

[glossy shoal]

Now I have stuff clear out

[vocal rapids]

OKAY YEAH THAT'S WHAT I WAS REMEMBERING

[glossy shoal]

Hopefully tasim is not gonna suck anymore on the future content xd

[silk venture]

Man fuck tasim

[pearl zenith]

I’m pretty sure his story is over lol

[glossy shoal]

And not being useless the second we start the quest like aledar

[silk venture]

All my homies hate tasim

[hybrid gazelle]

he literally our main companion through the story

he will get more content in mid game

so no

[glossy shoal]

We're we r he has to be there too xd

[hybrid gazelle]

Tasim story is not over yet

[silk venture]

He's going to dern with us to look for his bf

[hybrid gazelle]

he is our main companion that likely will last to the Dern expansion

also Aledar is like

dead dead

like extremely dead

like very dead

in everyway possible

[glossy shoal]

Hahahabahahahha

[silk venture]

Could have been us but tasim doesn't care

Fuck that guy

[viscid heart]

i bet he wishes he was someone elses main companion

[glossy shoal]

Like no 1 without 2

[hybrid gazelle]

the difference between us and Aledar is

[glossy shoal]

I really don't like that tasim last for 1 quest xd

[silk venture]

Can we take sui instead

[vocal rapids]

Okay, back to pre fruma stuff, About orphion-
Didn't the elves know of orphions existence and wasn't he their God?

[hybrid gazelle]

I pretty sure Tasim suppose to have romatnic intrest with Aledar

but like

it never really make clear

[glossy shoal]

Lowk

[hybrid gazelle]

but yeah he gay as fuck

[viscid heart]

yes it was

[silk venture]

Everyone in this game is gay

[viscid heart]

it was hella clear

[hybrid gazelle]

it not clear to some

[glossy shoal]

Maxie is the most successful guy xd

[viscid heart]

yeah if theyre stupid

[vocal rapids]

Linton also asks Tasim out fully in their first meeting

[hybrid gazelle]

So compare the player and Aledar

Aledar probably above the player int term of friend list

[midnight oxide]

no man she is gonna freeze everything

and probs get into fight with lari

[hybrid gazelle]

oh hey meefy

[mossy widget]

i dont think he asks tasim out LOL

Hi

[glossy shoal]

Hahahha

[hybrid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/umamusume-uma-musume-special-week-spe-chan-stare-gif-12138960336223403084

[mossy widget]

Trahsie

[hybrid gazelle]

Meefy

[naive gorge]

whats agemasen doing in lore discussion

[hybrid gazelle]

do you wanna see golem without their armor

[vocal rapids]

Isn't linton a guy?

[hybrid gazelle]

Yes

Linton is a guy

[glossy shoal]

Just to say we had the chance to see her sleeping....

[vocal rapids]

.

[hybrid gazelle]

if you see sleeping with a woman as a chance

[vocal rapids]

He does

[hybrid gazelle]

also

the keyword is SEE

then IDK

maybe that say more about you as a person actually

[mossy widget]

i saw in ur thread

[viscid heart]

too bad for him then

[mossy widget]

peak

[hybrid gazelle]

thanks

[naive gorge]

https://tenor.com/view/flightreacts-reaction-flight-reacts-flight-reacts-flightreacts-gif-14526489174047821058

[vocal rapids]

In a dialogue in queens recruit, in the ragni castle hall

[glossy shoal]

I was thinking in some sort of riunion between rex and tasim

[naive gorge]

whole province fruity 😭 💔

[viscid heart]

wynncraft and the woke gay agenda

[vocal rapids]

Deadass

[pearl zenith]

I really need to replay the game I don’t remember any of this😭

[mossy widget]

i think that was more of him remembering that aledar was gay af for him and said whatever came to mind #Tbh

but also linton is gay af as well

[glossy shoal]

Maybe ask her hand ✋ and finally ending the gay on the past xd

Just a theory xd

[mossy widget]

?

[hybrid gazelle]

?

[vocal rapids]

Bro when we met maxie married in corkus it was so funny

[naive gorge]

IM STILL KINDA UPSET I MISSED THE WEDDING....

[glossy shoal]

He is too successful xd

[pearl zenith]

Weren’t Tasim and Aledar just good adventuring companions since when are they gay for each other?

[glossy shoal]

Hahaha

[mossy badge]

lol

[vocal rapids]

And then after a while when I was travelling thru the sea skipper he gives me the wedding invitation

[glossy shoal]

.....

[hybrid gazelle]

cause Lexnt is Tasim x Aledar shipper 1000

[viscid heart]

bro

[mossy badge]

Good question

[silk venture]

Every relationship we see in this game is gay just fill in the blanks honestly

[mossy badge]

Tbh its not surprising

But salted maybe will put a word in it

[glossy shoal]

Just read the letter on aledar tomb xd

[viscid heart]

no one says that shit about just a friend

[mossy badge]

I heard

[hybrid gazelle]

Meefy

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1015394899497058304/1489172687577153546/ezgif-4b87bb36c46a746a.gif

[mossy widget]

bro

HELPP

[vocal rapids]

Also the way tasim overreacted on his death

[pearl zenith]

I did😭 bro can’t mourn his bestie without getting allegations thrown at him

[hybrid gazelle]

what you mean by allegation

[naive gorge]

you can say that but at the same time youre playing the same game that has zeph and yuman

[hybrid gazelle]

the allegation that he is gay?

[mossy widget]

it is NOT❌ AN ALLEGATION

[vocal rapids]

Did tasim know that Aledad TOLD us to kill him

[glossy shoal]

Yeah

[viscid heart]

"i had him until you took him from me" and "in another life we could have had a happy ending" 😭😭😭😭

[glossy shoal]

At the end

[viscid heart]

bro

[pearl zenith]

Well yes they were cute

[viscid heart]

gay asf

[silk venture]

He's doesn't care he also doesn't care that he was meant to kill us

Fuck tasim bro

[glossy shoal]

Hahahaha was epic when I was reading it xd

[vocal rapids]

Deadass

[silk venture]

Bro is not a ride or die

[hybrid gazelle]

He was not mad about us having no choice but to kill Aledar

[mossy widget]

THE “JUST LET ME BE WITH HIM” IN APOTHEOSIS TOO

[naive gorge]

thats still what im confused abt tasim because werent we like. in the same batch. ? what 😭

[hybrid gazelle]

he was mad at us for keeping it to ourselves

[vague reef]

damn The Missing Piece quest got me just now

[vocal rapids]

Bro was just too salty he couldn't beat us in a 1v1 during the tournament

[viscid heart]

😭😭😭😭

[hybrid gazelle]

please read the damn scene again

and its context

because literally

if you tell him early in beta

[glossy shoal]

Yeah kill me to meet my baby

[pearl zenith]

Ykw true. I forgot about that line. Yall converted me

[hybrid gazelle]

he is not that angry at you

[mossy widget]

DONT FORGET ALEDAR’S “THERES NO ONE ELSE ID RATHER HAVE BY MY SIDE THAN YOU”

[viscid heart]

YES BRO

[silk venture]

https://tenor.com/view/buzzlightyear-buzz-sad-disappointed-buzzsad-gif-1746575771836696645

[hybrid gazelle]

this is not even the case what

[viscid heart]

gay deniers in shambles

[glossy shoal]

Bros putting too much facts xd

[hybrid gazelle]

he just pissed at you for keeping the screct until it drop at the worst possible time

[whole river]

😂😂😂

[hybrid gazelle]

he is not mad at you for doing what need to be done
he just mad at you for keeping it this long away from him

[vocal rapids]

To me it just looked like the queen manipulated him by telling him the half truth

[glossy shoal]

When gamemaster hates you

[vocal rapids]

It's a joke gang😭

[pearl zenith]

That’s how I saw it

[viscid heart]

if i found out my homie killed my love interest and didnt tell me id be pissed too bro

[naive gorge]

honestly i didnt think much about tasim x aledar but i just kept 🤨 every time tasim said anything about aledar when i was going thru fruma

[hybrid gazelle]

the yearning is crazy

it was extra competitive

[silk venture]

Nah thats my homie ik he would have a good reason

Id at least want to hear him out

[hybrid gazelle]

in beta

[pearl zenith]

I was so annoyed that the game gave me to option to tell him multiple times and then didn’t actually do it😭

[hybrid gazelle]

you can literally tell him the truth

[glossy shoal]

And again I think a really "cool" thing can be how even if we r controlling out character some important stuff to decide is not made by us like killing the guys on fort Lorin

[hybrid gazelle]

in queen's recruit

and he literally said

He want to be mad at you but he cant

because he understand the situation

and even blame himself for not being there

[naive gorge]

in that case the queen definitely told him the half truth like what people said earlier

[viscid heart]

they will in the future its not done yet

[naive gorge]

fuck tha queen #RIPBOZO #RESTINPISS

[glossy shoal]

I believe it too

[silk venture]

Yeah after he cuts someone in half and tries to kill us

[viscid heart]

bro he was in love hes not gonna be rational

[silk venture]

He hasn't seen him in how long?

[viscid heart]

absence makes the heart grow fonder

[hybrid gazelle]

It could
but I think the way dialogues are written it more like he just mad that you kept it from him this long

[hybrid gazelle]

?

[glossy shoal]

From Recover the past

[hybrid gazelle]

How could he cut someone in half

[vocal rapids]

I think he would be mad, but he wouldn't like blame us that we murdered him kinda mad

[hybrid gazelle]

if this is queen's recruit?

hello?

[pearl zenith]

If he truly loved him he would’ve left gavel to go to the silent expanse with him. Fake homie

[hybrid gazelle]

I dont remember he cut anyone in half in queen's recruit

[mossy badge]

Shaking my smh

[silk venture]

You didn't watch his matches

[viscid heart]

well thats all he knew because thats what the queen said

[slender copper]

in WHAT???

[mossy widget]

he did he was just slow af

[naive gorge]

that is true.. too bad the game kept cutting us off itself 😭 💔 hopefully they add the different dialogue options soon

[silk venture]

He could have

[glossy shoal]

I think he receive the letter too late

[viscid heart]

and when he asked us all we said is yeah it was true

[vocal rapids]

Yeah that's what I was saying aswell

[hybrid gazelle]

watch what?

[glossy shoal]

And we actually meet tasim on deltas

[hybrid gazelle]

the moment you told him the truth

[glossy shoal]

And we was searching aledar

[hybrid gazelle]

it literally right before you have spar with him

and he literally said he just want to spar to ignore this like awkward period of you spitting out the truth

[vocal rapids]

How would that work tho, they would have to rework the entire ending then no?

[hybrid gazelle]

it's dialogue change

that pretty much it

it not change the main outcome

[naive gorge]

yeah i dont think it would change anything major , maybe the boss fight can change but itll mostly be dialogue

[hybrid gazelle]

nah dont bet on the boss fight change

[viscid heart]

better narrative if you dont tell him anyways so who cares

[hybrid gazelle]

I pretty sure Ct just say it going to be dialogue change

[vocal rapids]

His whole tweak out would have to change

[pearl zenith]

Agreed

[hybrid gazelle]

you literally see this in the trailer

[vocal rapids]

Agree

[hybrid gazelle]

it does not change that much

well it not him crashing out on us

yes the scene itself will change but even in the end he stand by the queen for another reason

it not just Aledar

we only see this glimpse to alt dialogue in the trailer

but it likely change in final release

but overall it should give us good idea on how it would be like

it definitely going to be us and Tasim remisnace about Aledar

[vocal rapids]

It's very cliche, that we aren't "able" To tell him, because somewhere we also have guilt for having to sacrifice our companion and throughout the whole start of fruma we try to tell him but everything is so hectic we keep putting it off cuz we want the perfect opportunity and environment to tell him the truth properly

But I prefer it this way

[hybrid gazelle]

It added more drama and conflict between characters

[vocal rapids]

It's very cliche but I like it

[viscid heart]

the problem with telling him is theres no emotional conflict to tie in with the structural conflict

[vocal rapids]

I also like the angle of, then queen telling him the half truth to manipulate him further into opposing us

[pearl zenith]

I just don’t see how adding an option to tell him at the start without drastically changing Apotheosis would not worsen the story

[viscid heart]

so it just feels kinda forced

[hybrid gazelle]

not really

again

he still has reason to be side with the queen

it not just about Aledar

he geniunely believe the queen has the mean to end this war

and he though choosing to side with her is the only way to end it

[vocal rapids]

Any idea of what the queen tells him that makes him so convinced?

[hybrid gazelle]

we dont know

but it does not matter either way

manipulated or not

[mossy widget]

which side would he have What?

[hybrid gazelle]

breaking the truth in those moement will broke him either way

[viscid heart]

if the light wins or the dark wins everyone dies

he was convinced bc hes seen what the war has done to gavel and wynn

[hybrid gazelle]

OHLY SHIT

[hybrid gazelle]

meefy

you gotta be like me with Lari

[slender copper]

...???

[mossy widget]

what does this mean

[hybrid gazelle]

You have to defend Tasim from the ocean of misunderstood and misconception

[vocal rapids]

Yeah but in all of that, why does the queen have to oppress the people of fruma

[hybrid gazelle]

and you going to suffer

[hybrid gazelle]

for 500 years to come

[upbeat cave]

because it works

[viscid heart]

he kinda ignores that for the sake of the whole world surviving

[pearl zenith]

For the love of the game

[hybrid gazelle]

okay to expain

basically fruma is a empire

build on effeciency

and effeciency alone

All this suffering is a byprodcut to make Fruma into what it is

ofc it fucking awful

[vocal rapids]

Makes sense

[hybrid gazelle]

but it "work"

so basically to start

Auburn Forest is a tourist district

it's beautiful

and it barely changed by the crown

[slender copper]

Why did you curse Meefy with this???

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah I fuckinag hate meefy

[slender copper]

💀

[hybrid gazelle]

she draw gay people

@mossy widget I throw rock at you

https://tenor.com/view/wizard-rock-throwing-gif-3095471689337470556

[vocal rapids]

Around what time does the queen take over fruma? Like how many years after portal

[hybrid gazelle]

okay to contineu the talk

so basic ally the crown barely change auburn forest

[naive gorge]

didnt the queen build fruma from the start?

[hybrid gazelle]

because the queen is fond of us and bla bla lba

then we move on to industrial district

[vocal rapids]

I understood you, you don't have to explain further if you don't want to

[hybrid gazelle]

no becuase this is pretyt intresting insight to how to make fascist empire "work"

without make them too cartonishly evil

[pearl zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/laufey-gif-5004398536554903246

[hybrid gazelle]

the way Fruma empire is build

they understand the concept of these fascism and how it can be appealing to people

[vocal rapids]

I don't think so?

[hybrid gazelle]

because the thing is that

AS A WHOLE

when viewing from distance

Fruma is beautiful

it's advance

it's everything that you could ask for a great empire

[naive gorge]

oh youre right, wiki says that she conquered fruma at around 200 ap

[hybrid gazelle]

each district work like well oiled machines to keep the gear running

Industrial district pretty much as the name imply
have bunch of workers produce goods for the entire empire

[vocal rapids]

Yeah because, before she was just "war" Or "anathema" Until she met bakal, and after a while bakal helped her become the shell that is the "Queen"

[hybrid gazelle]

and then MIstwood is an area where the crown use to train spies like changeling and kept their prisoners(shared with Wasteland)

Highland while at first glance

[vocal rapids]

So it would all have to be After portal

[hybrid gazelle]

seems like a place where people just chill so it look like all the suffering of hte people is meaningless

until you realize that

Highland is a breeding ground

for various of poltiical, authority, and anyone with poltiical power

to ensure fruma rule keep going

these people who are ignorant that will get better education

better seat of power

[vocal rapids]

True true true

[hybrid gazelle]

than the people of Espren and Roughwork

will ensure the ruling of the queen stay

so all these suffering are necessery in the queen's eyes

as it's way to make Fruma just for HER

she love Fruma but not in its people

it's in its empire

[vocal rapids]

Yes

[hybrid gazelle]

She treat Fruma as like her own realm ,her own body

[vocal rapids]

Yeah

[hybrid gazelle]

and each indivudals citizens are nothing but blood cells

it very fascinating how you can see parrarrel between the Realm and Fruma Empire

[vocal rapids]

The people are a by product you can say

[slender copper]

I can't tell if this is some advanced bit or you hate that specific user 💀.

[vocal rapids]

I think they are friends lol

[slender copper]

I hope they are-

[vocal rapids]

Okay, but didn't fruma close its gate to wynn right when the portal emerged, before the queen became a thing?

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah

that was council deicsion

the queen just keep it going until 900 AP where they sending in recruits

[vocal rapids]

And the sending recruits to wynn thing is just a means for the queen to get rid of people she doesn't want in her land and also to slow down the clash between light and dark right?

[hybrid gazelle]

it's complicated

not only sending prisoners away would rid Fruma of its prisoners and utilize them to strength its meat shield(Wynn) against corruption

but also by chance

as explain in post raid

that Wynn in particular

have an ember of hope that will strive to survive no matter what

[vocal rapids]

Okay okay okay

[hybrid gazelle]

and the quyeen want to keep it going

[vocal rapids]

I also remember reading somewhere

[hybrid gazelle]

jsut for a chance

yeah

What she done with tasim

[vocal rapids]

That, by the time fruma opened the gates to wynn, it was already too late, wynn was starting to thrive again with the help of gavel and of course bob

[hybrid gazelle]

is likely what she is talking about

[vocal rapids]

So fruma opened the gates as a sort of diplomacy, in worry that wynn might grow too strong, even stronger than them

[hybrid gazelle]

nope

[vocal rapids]

This is something I read pre fruma release

[hybrid gazelle]

not at all

[vocal rapids]

I think, it was in a secret discovery or some wiki page I don't remember

[hybrid gazelle]

it nothing about wynn being too strong, it literally opposite

[hybrid gazelle]

that llevigar library

they just saying that Wynn has potential to be strongest province ever due to the support its gain over the years

but even with all of that

[vocal rapids]

Yeah

[hybrid gazelle]

they did not account for Corruption still growing in power

and continue spreading with undead add more in the pile

so Wynn despite all supports and its power

is never eonugh to win the war

so just as the queen said

[vocal rapids]

Hm

[hybrid gazelle]

"Wynn… a province of chaos, of war… but its people, its people… there is a tenacity. The struggle to survive. A lingering ember of hope which could not be snuffed out!"

she send recruits out

to ensure wynn nver fall

[left warren]

Question - what, lore-wise, is the population of Wynn? All things considered there's not very many houses, so more than like 10k seems a bit excessive

[hybrid gazelle]

what we see in game is just abstract simplification

[vocal rapids]

Yeah

[hybrid gazelle]

in actual lore wise

every city is much bigger than they are in the game

this is due to CT are normal human being

[vocal rapids]

Everything is much bigger in scale than in the game, well for obvious reasons

[hybrid gazelle]

and actually not fucking insane

to have the players walking real life distance between Ragni and Detlas

[vocal rapids]

Yeah

[left warren]

makes sense I guess

[hybrid gazelle]

The house that we see are more like convey the idea this is a city ratehr than "this is literally the house that they have"

cause if this is the case

wynn only have like

[left warren]

kinda like the idea that it's just like a dozen people in each city though

[hybrid gazelle]

100 peopel at max which make 0 fucking sense

[vocal rapids]

I remember reading a secret discovery, it tells us that when Ragni was at its peak, detlas was just a small village, but over the years detlas becomes the capital of wynn it was kinda cool

[hybrid gazelle]

dozen people in city will never work LOL

that barely will keep Wynn afloat

[left warren]

because the rest of the population is the military

[hybrid gazelle]

and dont forget about the recruits from Fruma

that

that sound like ass sorry

you aslo need farmers and merchants to keep the province afloat

there also merchants from other palce in the world

you need blacksmith

[left warren]

petition to make wynncraft pacifist route where you just prof all day

[hybrid gazelle]

you need all of kind of people

that dozen of peoples will never be able to fill in all roles

also not to mention

death rate in Wynn is by every single day

[left warren]

actually wynncraft profs all day every day would drive even the most normal person to violence

[hybrid gazelle]

there is constant battle going on to ensure each city stand

[naive gorge]

maybe with this we can open that one chest in that acid trip quest

[mossy badge]

Lvl 1 combat 132 profs ahh

[hybrid gazelle]

so in order to make sure wynn stand but also have dozens of epopel as its population

[vocal rapids]

Yeah, isn't bakal supposed to have massacred THOUSANDS alone?

[hybrid gazelle]

peopel gotta breed like rabbit

which is like

not possible I think

and also hold a lot of awful implication

[uneven basin]

This does ask the question of how big is Wynn in lore tho

[hybrid gazelle]

probably very big

consider how Alekin is needed as resting point

[vocal rapids]

Yeah, isn't troms supposed to be even bigger?

[hybrid gazelle]

Distance between Ragni and Detlas likely take days

[hybrid gazelle]

Bak'al wipe cities and stuff

so yeah

[hasty beacon]

Big

[hybrid gazelle]

again

the size is a suggestion

itn ot concrete

becuase trying to keep something like

ENTIRE PROVINCEsize consistence

is kinda

it kinda impossible as volunteer writers

[vocal rapids]

Yeah

[hybrid gazelle]

that work for free

[mossy widget]

wtf

[hybrid gazelle]

eyeah meefy

what you think about that

[uneven basin]

Nah exact numbers let people do math which is an issue most of the time

[hybrid gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/haru-urara-haru-urara-punch-uma-gif-3671877342466542406

[mossy widget]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-cat-gif-5858640239144030160

[vocal rapids]

Also

[hasty beacon]

I think the airship in letvus airbase can give us an idea of how big detlas is in lore

[naive gorge]

also it wouldnt be a good idea to have exact numbers anyway or else math nerds will get your ass

[hasty beacon]

Cause that thing is huge

[hybrid gazelle]

having extact numbers would be toooo limiting for writing consider how they will be constrict by this numbers that probably only exist in lore doc

LOL

[vocal rapids]

I had a theory, its just very random but, I feel like wynn used to use Gold as a currency before the villagers from Gavel arrived and their greed for emeralds just converted the entire province into using emeralds as a currency instead of gold

[left warren]

another big thing is that detlas probably isn't just 20ft away from the roots, probably more like a day's march at least

[vocal rapids]

Yeah considering they have a whole war front set up

[left warren]

that is very random, I guess you could make sense of it somehow but idk why you'd want to

[vocal rapids]

Just random talk lol

I haven't finished all the secret discoveries, only up till nesaak and have done llevigar and olux

I plan to do them all but they take excessive amount of time

[left warren]

I think I got all wynn discoveries done in like a day because I optimized routes or whatever

[vocal rapids]

I try to not use wiki and figure out all the secret discovery puzzles myself

Which ends up taking a lot of time

The one that pissed me off the most was the one in nesaak, where you have to feed the dogs in the temple in the order of their podiums height

I was stuck there for so long

Couldn't figure out the order of feeding them

[full bough]

wat the flip is htis

[drifting aurora]

oh my god i forgot about this

[tepid blade]

Well, didn't they have the emerald mine that would lead into the Silent Expanse before the villagers arrived?

[drifting aurora]

this brings me joy

[hybrid gazelle]

Anathema in that pic look like she is newborn baby bird

IDK why

[tepid blade]

Yeah, they where mining emerald for currency even before the portals opened

[vocal rapids]

I feel that was AFTER they arrived

[hybrid gazelle]

honestly I really happy with the new golems I made

TBH my only issue rn

is

what would villager asthetic loo klike?

cause that is my entire problem rn

I just could not get

[hasty beacon]

Ooh the stitches are a nice detail

[hybrid gazelle]

how villager asthetic look like

that is probably something I gotta wait for CT to do

[tepid blade]

According to AJB, the mines have been abandoned for centuries

and the villagers only arrived in 900 AP

[hybrid gazelle]

the stitch in their leather skin lol

I wanan do Iron Heart rework

[drifting aurora]

you are forced to take a raid corruption

[hybrid gazelle]

oh yeah I frogot about that actually

Theorick saw the dog shit boons and gone mad

I still wondering like

WHy Zeph, Sui, Tasim, and us not gone mad tho

if that the case

cause we clearly taking similar to Theorick hre

and I dont think Theorick have any lower mental fortitue

[whole river]

Is there a reason we ever get as to why Bob never solved the Theorick issue or were we just the only one who gaf

[hybrid gazelle]

my only guess is that

he stay there for TOO LONG

consider the fact taht the being that he suppose to look for

which is Anteham

enver in the portal in the first place

so his expdnition to RoW likely will take too long than it should

[full bough]

what is this distorted medallion ussed on

warped emblem i mean

[hybrid gazelle]

which cause him to become mad with corruption

while the gang only in RoW for shorter period of time

since we literally go to RoW

go to the spire