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thats counterevidence
overall just really half baked premises for all the mechs and golems in wynn as a whole
i think that's reasonable, they plan to have more
i just dont know how smart the mechs are to work properly
cuz the golems are smart enough to do stuff kinda on their own
one of the plausible idea to keep golems being made of ivllager intact
at the bare minimum, theyre smart enough to mimic a wynn or at least maxie
this is a side of lore i dont know a lot about
is maybe using living being is more cheaper than trying to come up with complex magical writing
for a production
hive mind theory š„
it probably is just that and that the only other golems/mechs havent been introduced to gavel yet
in an AI perspective, corkus beating us rn
i can see Dr Urelix spreading mech propganda so he can keep his business
either that or technology to make automaton is heavily gatekept
because maybe corkian find their own way
and still gatekept it
by definition that's a monopoly
it also uses electromagic which i mean villagers probably could do
but villagers too lazy
idk what the relation between corkus and other provinces are so idk
because it could before 900 AP
theyre oddballs fr
if it was before 900 AP where ocean open
then it reasonable that villagers just dont know how to make magical automaton
lowkey a curveball to lore before rodo
so they just find a short cut by just putting people inside it
yes
it might've been passed down
okay
nvm
another thing I forgot to left out
maltic elders are crusty
is that this golem rework idea
also come with another rework
which is forbidden prison
since when I work for rewrite
hive mind theory š„
I have a big project caleld Wartorn Project
this wartorn projct is pretty muchone big project where I put all my smaller projct that rewrite wynncraft stuff go
and they interconnected to one and another
so in this take, forbidden prison is essentially organ harvesting operation
not only they provide people to the company like Urelix
but also harvest organs from prisoners to rejuvante the upperclass with the use of fleshcrafting
and Urelix is one of these mention upperclass that benefit from the prison
not only his company but himself
which is this take explaination on why Urelix able to live for so long even at 100+ years old
my theme for villagers in my remake
is a lot more magical being commerical/industiralize but not really in conventional way
which is why golems stuff feel very industrial even tho their visual asthetic say otherwise
I think other people say it best that in my take
Corkus is like Create mod while Villagers are like Botania mod
they are technoilogy but in different direction
that is a really freaky idea but in like a really good way
^^^^^
I feel like there's massive potential in expanding on them being the architects and main beneficiaries of this global system
is there something I missed, does the player not get any kind of closure for the last fruma quest?
like is there somewhere to talk to ||tasim/all the insurgents|| after beating TWP or am i missing something
How would villagers react to the discovery of a technology that doesn't require killing ppl and does as good if not better a job than golems ?
For the moment you can only find tasim besides the leaves base in auburn
Go back to the leaves HQ for a small bit of epilogue
There is more planned in future
Also do the raid
And talk to boss
i talked to boss, gotta find the leaves hq again š
There's not much but there is more planned :)
would you happen to have coords/vague idea where the hq is? its been a couple days lmfao
found it
||Is there anything to do after the raid? Like story-wise? Do we get to talk with characters or anything like that?|| Fruma post-raid question
Read the messages before ur msg
fair lol, ty
What is this
The mysteries of the border mountains coastline š»
- Adds way too much effort into some magical altar thing, including particles forming a circle implying some degree of interaction
- Doesnāt actually do anything functional
I remember that cave, some sea monster that was basically just a zombie with those player heads on the ground that spawned down here with cultists
Not sure if they still spawned though
Wouldn't use it cause they need profits
how's killing people profitable
I get the idea their supply of... Golem Material is shorter than the one of mech material and thus gavelians might prefer buying corkian stuff driving urelix to bankruptcy
They sell the golems and he has the monopoly on how to make them
So if corkians introduced their tech heād no longer have the monopoly. Itās less the killing part more just the fact heās the one selling them
Is there any place I can read all of anathemaās post wtp
Dialogue without killing the boss like 7 times
I do not want to wtp this much
The visage of Jaguabis yet haunts me
Note: Underlined text is shaking Ahahahahaha⦠so⦠you would chase me even here⦠to extinguish the spark. So long⦠I spent searching for a way to break free⦠from the crimson skies⦠the sulphurous air⦠Was it fate? For me to die here⦠atop the Crown of this monument⦠to my failures? Bleached ...
Tysm ā¤ļø
yes but that doesn't mean if he just kept on making golems it would be profitable. the person claimed the villagers wouldn't stop using golems but why wouldn't they
Is the player just another eldritch entity in disguise
Up to you
since Player's OC is up to interpretation so
everyone have a unique Character
The implications of this are so fucked
I doubt they would ever let us know what actually in us xd
if they do, it would be peak tbh
With the war, decay and general threats, they do need golems to protect cities
anathema does say the spark is āfamiliarā
I hope they fucking ask corkus for tech advice because i hate dr.Urelix
Another entity of chaos? Balance, maybe?
The player has the powers of bovemists confirmed
perhaps we will see in the realm of dark expansion 2043
she refer to herself as a spark too, take that to consideration
the possibility of another war beast also being from a blank slate
considering we defeated Overtaken Orphion, i think beating Saphanis might be like fighting Orphion with his strenght got 5x stronger
The map of where bovemists reside and where corruption is is basically the same..coincidence? I think not
I love Anathema š„ŗ
Has some connection atleast in some way, i'd say
My headcanon is now that the player character is another instance of chaos, though perhaps taking a different form from war
My headcannon is the opposite š¤Æ
Balance
The thinker š¤
The player goes around balancing things out but from the like lore perspective, it wouldnāt make sense for there to be a realm of balance
Balance is just as valid but like, I prefer smth like change because the entire point seems to be finally shifting the tide of a seemingly endless war
Unless at some point light and dark were in love and made out at some point who knows
Lovers to enemies trope
In what world/realm/whatever u call it, 's favor are the actions of the player, think about it
I hope when they rework rol, they remove the plane of this shit and that thing
I donāt see the player as a realm beast because we know their underlying realms love spreading their influence and what fucking influence does the player spread?
normalcy?
What influence does the earth have
Unless player's Character is a physical realm beast
The thinker š”
Honestly could be true
one of many scion/beast theories
This opens a whole rabbit hole of whether anything is objectively good and any of the realms is right and Iām not willing to have that discussion
Its just different
I don't think they're of an "influence" but I do think the player is very closely tied to the world
there are some hints to this from what we even have before fruma
Ok think about how fucking funny it would be
> realm beast tricking another into becoming its scion
Like for example for dern, that which wroughts flesh is their barber and makes u beautiful by giving u a hairfleshcut 
I honestly just prefer player's Character as really powerful or at least have unknown origin until the very end
questions can be left unanswered, I think this is one of the many question that would be kinda either disappointing or leaving us to have nothing to be creative about xd
L brain
Idk if its confirmed but I believe that the realm of war was made from the physical realm, which would kinda fit into the spark being familiar if we were some scion or beast of the physical plane
Keep thinking guys
W brain
I feel like the unknown part is better for the blank slate aspect as a fill in for the player
player to me is an instance of either change or balance, though whether itās a ārealm beastā or just some other eldritch apparition, who knows!
neat thought but I doubt that
We could be like the parasite but like a parasitnot
If they leave the player's power source/motivations unknown that would be kinda lame
Like personality/past life i dont give a shit
I think there is an answer we just won't know yet
Coming with dern update 2043 trust
we only have puzzle pieces
Honestly Iām more confused about how the realm of war came to be lowey
they have to make something
when light and dark clash the result is war
āWake upā? Nah.
a w a k e n
The earth didn't like the debris of their battleground and thrown it out š¤
really important to point out war never interacted with the world before bak'al and light and dark fought before this point
But where did they clash, and how did that make a new realm
Iām more confused if it was a plane which turned into war like a battleground or it came into exigence
Itās kinda peak that you āawakeningā in the very first tutorial quest foreshadows all this shit, kinda
through the void itself I guess
the physical world didn't play a part in their fight until they discovered it
to there they can exert their will
and claim
seems to be a common thing for beasts to want
Two says they only battled on the earth
Why tf would they fight over.. nothing lol
||Sovereign Two: ...but in the end, they could do naught but orbit - holding influence in their own right, but possessing nothing to exert it on.
Sovereign Two: Until... they found it. A miraculous world, of magic and life, and all of a sudden, nothing became something.
Sovereign Two: They took. They battled.
Sovereign Two: And in so doing, they came to shatter the mirror which once held their reflections. A building pressure of light and dark and hate, until finally enough was enough...
Sovereign Two: And from those uncountable shattered pieces of their battleground, War came to be.||
it says they couldn't battle beforehand but it was when they battled on earth
š¤Æ
Two just yapping on about the mirror part which i dislike
literally the part before
they hated eachother but war itself didnt come from that
it came from their battle, which was on earth
they saw each other, became instant haters of one another but couldn't do shit
untill they saw the planet
yep
They should have chosen another planet smh
ok so corruption does come from the physical world
||All that you see⦠is the result of Their battle. || <-- the realm of war
||An unending clash⦠shattering collisions of earth and sky and sea⦠||
possibly
tho it sounds like it depends purely on the light & dark
also there's implied to be more realms too
light dark and war are the only realms that we knowingly interact with
there's also a possibility of birthing new realms as the consequence of the conflict or
it's what happen to War
isnt there the skylaar realm as well
so it can be done again
war is the only result of the conflict because war is the conflict taken form
now if the light and dark were to get along...
REALM OF UNITY MENTIONS
yep, i just wonder, can new realms and influences be birthed without it being derived from light or dark
our realm isn't an influence but it is birth without effort from Light and Dark
if orphion and dern beast kiss then the realm of love and peace will emerge
probably if we figure out what can be derived outside of elements
then come Eulogia
something something meteors
from all the buildup it seems pretty much cannon lore
space in general is odd
Gods and alike do not know how to humans or mortals work or how to communicate with them
what if space itself is Void
space is a part of the physical "world"
oh and the entire void under the sky islands is weird as well
i'd really like to see the diagram of what the map looks like cosmically
I mean there are 2 voids, one near Light portal and the other near Dark portal
it make sense
whgere is the graph
does the planet even work like our plants with cores and mantles and gravity whatnot?
since there's a void under the sky islands and gavel
Man if only someone were to conceptualize an AU about this
or is the plante like flat earth or smt?
AU light x dark smut
like
is salted a flat earther
The void isnāt under Gavel
working on golems concept art rn
If it was, why do we only see void in Sky Islands and the TCC region
the part where the sine thing touch the straight line is the portal, the space between them is the void
Like, canāt anyone just dig downwards from any part of Gavel and fall into the void
are you gonna post the world and void images š
WynnSwap!!!
Who says this isn't true
I donāt have an updated version to post
my best guess is the sky islands & tcc is kinda just like a portal to the void area or smth weird
The old one didnāt have the TNA raid in Dern, which I wasnāt aware of when making the map
that is really the impression I got from Sky Islandss's Void
maybe I am just stupid?
This basically ^
Kinda
Tbh if the void is below the land then half of the mining operations in the game will break into the void
Which kinda doesnāt really make sense
real question is how big is the wynn planet if it's spherical
Also Geyser Pitās description kinda words it as if the Wynncraft world follows planet logic because it mentions stuff like the mantle and molten layers
it might be smaller than earth even given that the playing space in lore is larger than gameplay
but idk
i doubt they'll ever like, finish the earth map tho
it'll just keep going as long as they want more content or space or just not wanna deal with it
cuz they're adding bloomi soon
I want more people to make Bloomi fan content
Genuinely
honestly i think bloomi could work behind the jungle area
tho honestly recently ive seen a weird like
Oh I guess I have this though
@cinder cedar Wynncraft cosmology as of our current knowledge ^
dismissal
Technically the 3 realms could be touching each other but I separated them because it doesnāt make sense that we can just walk to each one
Theyāre probably islands anyway so
I mean, they are islands
The Physical Plane is a singular massive island of reality
so if you think of all of that with the void being basically a spacedust ocean, it's all good
i think slykaars realm is somewhere in that void
Will it still be its own island
Like the old works
Whatās spacedust ocean
yeah there will be an ocean behind wynn as well of course
it pretty much is given the environment of the void
If I were to assign Bloomi somewhere itāll probably be directly west or north west of Corkus
(Hopefully completing the square map rather than making it too big idk)
you know the space dust clouds around different galaxies
Oh
I think a better representation for the void would be like, the space voids
fair fair, how would wynn and gavel fit into that, would they curve off to the side or continue going
In space
of well ig fruma province
Remove the damn mountains, for one
what even is the deal with physical plane space
true
Itās probably just regular outer space + the Wynncraft aliens and magical phenomena like meteors
i get the mountains make it easier to build but its so strange as a landmass/ocean
Outer space is debatably part of reality so itās all within the Physical Plane
The void outside of the Physical Plane is defined as ānothingā so nothingās out there
Lack of reality, basically
If that makes sense
But the void in game has stuff š¤
Those donāt count as void anymore the Colossus introduced pieces of reality into it
If there is nothing, how could something manifest
I guess thereās void between the islands though
Idk wacky magic
So the colossus is god and made a bing bang

the realm could just be a more gradient thing ig, like it doesnt have an exact boundry idk
I love this image I'm grateful that it exists
or that ye
And the other two as well
I wish I clarified that I put quotation marks around āedgeā because itās not meant to be literal
I drew an edge to demonstrate the colossus breaking a hole out of reality
other two
The entire Wynn plot being ātwo eldritch beings are just professional hatersā is so whimsical
Wynn is pretty whimsical
pretty much
that's part of its charm
thats what im sayinggg
They will make a new child thatās born out of love rather than hate
(Sheās the opposite of the Queen and will destroy a province rather than building one)
we get the nameless anomaly to help create a bridge between light and dark so they can kiss
The yoinkity zoinkity
How does that work
anomaly grabs can move reality around or smth like that so he just
move light and dark together or smth
very pointy and stabby sword
Actually is light and dark even reality
like the void between light and dark, anomaly grabs part of each realm and makes a lil bridge
Or like, does the Plane of Influence even count as reality
no clue but i believe in the lil nameless guy
I assume it does?
Wouldnāt a bridge between realms literally just be like
A portal
Its not real guys
okay I think I finally get it somewhere
it'll be like a yaoi/yuri/yauri
I will detail the entire history of Iron Heart company later
The concept of patterns will still exist
cause I like the idea of Wynn have make impact on the buisness scene of the villagers
nice golem designs
unarmored feels uncomfortable it's great
there is idea of like
this rework Iron heart quest
you get to fight the unfinish golem
One of the idea i have in mind is that
during golem being "lobotomize"
they put behaviour in them that would deter anyone from doing mantaince check on them unti lthey are authorize
i like how you just draw the villager with like, the triangle nose art quirk thing
due to this employee of Iron Heart like the tech crew would have special medallion to show the golem before allowing the mantaince check
rn villagers just have big ears
and I just call them sellans
but for simplificty sake
I will keep calling them villagers in this server
but just know that they are called sellans in my take
goods
huh
what moment in Wynncraft that make you feel like you just walk into hotland, or city of tears for the first time?
or cogworks
I think fruma is supposed to give that feeling
any sufficiently advance area really xd
for me the entrance where you walk to the backdoor of Fruma is the part I felt like that
personal big fan of the moment of utter silence and ambience upon entering the great bridge after galippe warning
like
we've literally never seen a train before and first thing we see in Fruma is trains
i love trains
calm before the storm
are there more provinces than wynn, gavel and fruma in the world?
I think there suppose to be yeah
the whole world can't just have like 3 provinces xd
the map is closed off as a square but surely that's only temporary
yeah
gotta remember that Fruma was a weird closed off spot too
though I would imagine they update the ocean first before anything bigger
the weird thing is that I don't think other provinces have ever been mentioned
it's fair if they weren't mentioned by name since wynncraft lore was kinda made up along the way
but not even a mention of them existing is wack
Give it time I think
they will either retcon it or add new provinces in the way if they needed to
Dern, obviously
realm of light
what even is a province in wynncraft actually
like its kinda the landmass but then fruma exists
a big place in physical realm
I think Fruma is hella big
near the same size of Wynn if we exclude rymek and SE
yeah but Fruma is just apart of the Wynn landmass unlike Gavel
Gavel is just, REALLY big but very empty
and its clearly not based on governments cuz Gavel exists
where sky islands & dogun area is kinda blocked off
we have like, 2 quest about Light Forest and that's it
I kinda wish Light Forest have more
there is realm of light, the drug one and the aledorei ones
thats all i can remember
lowkey
I don't count RoL because majority of it is in the dead part of Light Forest, aka the swamp
xd
are you forgetting the ultimate weapon ?
The ultimate quest š„
the ultimate weapon, the most interesting quest yet
oh and that one mushroom size one, that might be aledorei idk
It's in gylia plains
so then light forests quests are...
- joke fetch quest
- get high
i love running around in light forest the bgm is so good
The only Efilim quest is not even about the town
I will be real either we need more quest or complete remake some of these
You can say some rol quest is light forest
But like
This suck ass man
There's secret discoveries
And they all fucking suck
So like
Why bother
60% of them are filler
Like
What does light mushroom explain to us
Light make good crack I guess???
I guess another good guy Orphion into a pile
Consider he can make loud blunt
Fruma side quest forever make me vindicate that quest can be funny without being shove into your face
And little side quest can be use for world building
Unlike
Idfk what ultimate weapon is
The entire joke is that itās fetch quest but like
Jt kinda fall short when we got like 6+ fetch quests in this game
Like wow dude
That so funny
That shit is like what if borderland has a sidequest where the entire quest is about toilet humor
Like
they should make Light Forest quests a bit more relevant
they are literally just SE but smaller and also like, also have really few quests, the same amount as SE
xd
i mean, technically Light forest should be as important as SE but ig not
It's supposed to be a parody of the basic filler quest, how successful it is is anyone's guess
Well in my opinion
Gavel when it come to telling engage world building and not pointless unfunny joke quest
It is
That
It just as I said
The joke fall short
Becuase we get shit like tol or Bob quest in the game
It's literally the place surrounding Light portal similar to SE
idk why they made it feel so irrelevant xd
I feel the new version is a bit better because you don't just fetch it riffs on plenty other aspect of basic Wynn quests
Temple of legend is just the ultimate ass fetch quest
like i have never seen a more ass fetch quest
Now temple would be funniest joke for fetch quest
Because nothing about that quest make any goddam sense thst it feel absurdly funny
temple of legends works better as a fetch quest, ultimate weapon isnt needed lol
like the ultimate weapon is a joke about fetch quests, which are already in the game
Yeah
It like
Itās another fetch quest but jokingly!!!!
Whcih change nothing btw
Temple of Legend feel more joke fetch quest than the actual joke fetch quest itself
light forest lore ā
joke fetch quest ā
Temple of legends is funnier in older version
Brcause fucking Kelight demand to see the soul of the provinceās hero
And you just show him his crushed soul š
Like for real Light Forest could have similar lore relevancy quests maybe related to the elf similar to the Olm in SE š
did they remove that??
This shit is like go up to chirstian and show them the soul of Jesus chirst
also how has anyone else entered the temple of legends
Bob's crushed soul is on the drug market
Tol make 0 fucking sense the more yoh thjnk about it
They be snorting bobās soul
have you ever try snorting one of Bob's crushed soul dust?
There is a black market in Maex, all merchants are dwarves, except one elf who sells drugs
Shoutout to Bob that for some reason
just a fun fact
Scatter his animals riend through out the world
For random ass stranger to kill them
maybe that elf actually have the bob drug
Like big question
maybe Bob was high
What happen if someone else come to fucking kill these animals?
thats why bob drug is so good, cuz he was always high
Like what then
I remember he said something along the line of being worthy for killing his animal friend and my face like, huh??
Bob is a psycho dude like WTF was that
and out of all the animals he chose the lamest ones
wtf did mooington do
i like mooington tho
that sheep in fucking the fucking
He literally like
maro peaks
shoutout to the sheep in maro peaks
āSorry dude but you know someone gotta slime youā¢
everyone hate Maro peaks
i want a maro peaks rework pronto
like i haven't found anyone who say "ooohhhoho I LOVE the helmet mechanic!!!"
oki I'm just casually trying to figure out how the ancient fruma text works
bc why not
Bob straight up imbue his power onto newborn chicken and tell it that some random ass stranger gojng to come and kill it :sob;
sorry that's gonna be in the midgame rework
good luck
No wonder why cluckle was pissed
i will rework maro peaks myself
I would be pissed too if I did not even an adult and that Bob mf send me on death mission
what was cluckle even doing in Nohno basement
So basically
oh you dont wanna know
bob give cluckle to Nohno
that man was marrying chickens bro
And Cluckle was being too aggressive
oh that thread wowie
šØ
I wonder if Nohno's wife gave consent to the marriage
i always kill nohnos wife cuz i feel bad for the chicken wife
ofc she did otherwise she wouldnt follow
cuz i cant kill nohno
who
Worrid
we need homophobic npc to complete the set of problematic character
ah yes the hybrids
Have you seen queenās eyes
the freedoms?
Her Majesty literally stopped yuri she's the most homophobic
oh that quest
š
another fallen soul
Orphion is Yaoi, Dern beast is Yuri and Anaethema is Homophobia
Orphion kissing Saphanis
Yauri
think about it tho
Dern Beast lead to Aledar ||death|| to stop tasim yaoi cuz dern beast is yuri
maybe Bak'al was leading Lari to Dern for a reason šØ
Lari x Saphanis gotta be a crackship
the entire orc situation i feel like
Bak'al was trying to escape and Lari decided that death was the only option 
Bak'al need a glow up, bro losing to a person with no combat experience and a half-olm
Losing to lari is embarrasing lowkey
That's why bro ran.
if we catch bro dead by Lari his aura debt is gotta be lasting for generations š
Imagine if Lari was able to kill him when she made that phone call with the player.
I always imagine like
the moment her scream is when Bob found her and catch her into his arm and run to safety or something like that
Bob is in here too
that'd be a fun twist
kill parasite, an evil bug thing ā
kill bakal who is actually a person ā
...?
at this point in RoL questline, we already like, teach her that killing is fine sometimes
of course she would do that
like can you imagine RoL 1 Lari interact with Bak'al š
there is a difference between RoL5 Lari and RoL1 Lari guys, she had her character development
it's funny because nobody seems to have caught onto that
I find it hilarious that the Parasite is basically comparible to Bak'al in a sense that if you strap them in a chair and show them good thing they would vomit
yet people say shit like "kil bakal who is actually a person" as if bak'al didn't mass murder people in Wynn
Oh i caught it itās just the character development wasnāt done that well
Lari sucks guys like idk what to tell ya
š
We fresh outta fruma killing shit she's lived for hundreds of years crying about ants she stepped on by accident
It's your opinion I guess, people can have different opinion on Lari, I just want to keep it as fair as possible
Lari could be good it just a revamp
^
every Lari conversation is just gonna looped back to Orphion being the actual asshole and "hey ROL is gonna be rework, why argue"
xd
they dont make the orphion thing clear enough imo
Lari coming with us to dern???
she's already in RoD
I've always not liked orphion ever since RoL but yeah there needs to be more indicators
Orc war feature a quest where the reward being you get to wear orc skin
We are going to dern to meet with lari to kill satan once and for all???
at least I hope so
make him outright the absent father that he is
wait c0rr remember that convo we had about orphion here before fruma
Let's take the bird lady too she might be helpful in dern
how player roll up with Poxper's skin in All Road To Peace
Zuitt see a guy wearing his own kind skin as armor and decide that he should risk it all for diplomat
Bro skinned that guy????
š š
Nooo (It's even worse when you wear that orc disguise you get after the quest š )
oop spoilers
this is not even a joke
oh you're not a comic reader xd
that's like, during near end of invincible
so you won't see it in a long time
I think we need to see how they met and Orphion actually telling Lari to be a pacifist and essentially at some point orphion like stops talking after repeating that for a while
or something
and also a better catalyst to how she flips her views
Yeah 7 years till the next season of invincible
it felt off having that I buried it (threw it) in the ground
I don't remember the conversation, something in mind came to you?
"ah yes these guys have different coloured skin, lets skin them, hear them and show it off to other people"
wear
Based
Let the narrative be clear and make Orphion an actual asshole from the get go š
I remember discussing about lutho monolith and whether orphion really cared about people
Nah light guy good dern guys bad
we just dont get any justification thar Orphion was an asshole tho
its just what makes sense
we get a lil but like not a lot
Oh yeah, that was *proved real quick after Fruma lol ||bro wants the entire land to be filled with those monoliths||
THE CORRECT view for this
is that both Light and Dark are equal in moral
and they only see physical world as something to exert upon on
they are not outright evil
it just that their end goal pretty much mean all of us are fucking dead
but to the pov of higher being, this is not consequtial
they are not outright malicious
oh no I was saying that the monolith wasn't a good thing
but yeah
Im not a watcher either but its just Hella weird theyre wearing the skin of a sapient being like imagine if it was human hide
Gross
Oh, then it was proved. Sorry lol
Isn't this was explained two time??
first from RoL4
second is from Two in Fruma
I like the idea Orphion knows people think of light as good and just pretends to be so orphion can exert their force
how did people missed this
yep
because it easier to say that both side are evil
even tho there are nuance to this situation
but still tho like
the reason why orphion seems good rn is because he's losing and desperate
underdog yeah
as they remake mid game
tho tbf doesnt orphion also "teach elves morals"
I do hate that a lot of people ignore the nuances to like, any situation ever but yeah, sometime simplification is good
"morals"
we likely seeing Orphion red flag down the line
but yeah
both side are equal in morality
and they are not outright malcious or anything
Except now because Saphanis fucking hate us
so it proabbly will be malicious from this point on
Nah they should 180 make orphion super justified
go for the legend of korra treatment
??
they are not absolute
Make us feel wrong for distrusting the light
the real evil is inside the player
True
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yeah and it called wynncraft player
KILL WYNNCORD
aren't we human sometime just, good and sometimes we're assholes?
why would that be different to all powerful being with moral even simplier than us
They did yesterday around 4pm est
nooo :(.
Lets honestly just go to dern and plant one of them light realm trees and make the two fight it out themselves
You maybe im always good and justified
you're pretty shortsighted for me rn
but like how do you know that xd
everyone judging themselves always come with bias whether intentionally or not
realm of evil when
I think that was a joke actually
by what we learn from the queen's actions and intentions
they really don't have an excuse they're just very detached and unmoving
maybe the evil is the friend we made along the way
yeah
they're like, not human so their morality is gonna of course be detached from human morality xd
I have no clue why auto correct changed joke to bike
queen was one or two steps in the right direction but she still got that beast in her
Aint it hate
capitalistic gods i'd say
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i love anathema š„ŗ
Orphion & Saphnis want more realm
Her Majesty wanted her slice of earth
earth is just the place to be
i mean
call it greedy sure but after eons of torture and agony, Fruma is basically Anathema's heaven
after we kill the beasts it turns out they were puppets of a greater evil...
the silverbull beast
I'm here once again to yap about stuff
Her majesty reached Heaven for the first time and loved it
greed isnt the right word
just like ambititon/wantiong smth
gotta give Her's Majesty credit for keeping Fruma as safe as she can be
her methods are ass though, no excuse on that
pay 2 win is the greater greater evil
Credit to ana for making such a goated raid
"Her Majesty reach Heaven"
did she want Fruma to be safe or did she just want Fruma, which means it had to be safe
spamton......
Girl going to deepest layer of hell š
she was already there
It feel really meaningful to me that to Her's Majesty, earth is her Heaven
We need to fight Salted army of yachts š /j
not /j, it's /s
salted yachts theory
i bet the giveaways just go to fake accounts to keep money /j
NGL
Why would we fight salted we're clearly their scion after all
I wish Anathema got more going on iwth her dialogue box
Orphion at least got halo and antler in his box
but Anathema share her dialogue with Bak'al
which is like
underwhelming
like on Bak'al it fine
but on Anathema is just
very underwhelming
Yeah when I saw Orphion's dialog box I was like "Seriously? You get the effort!?"
like iDK
Me when i saw Siegfrieds dialogue box
need more pink and yellow
we gotta embrace more FREEDOM in this economy
SIEGFRIED MY BELOVED <3
I wonder if the actors will have slightly different portraits
like you can see difference here
What if ana had a broken or twisted one of them sovereign scales
I wish Anathema has butterfly wing or something in her box
maybe a bit of chain going on
IDK
I feeel like they could do more
consider I remmber that they treating Realm beast's dialogue box as their protrait
but IDK dont quote me on it
maybe me making shit up
xd
but I think that idea sound coo
I think the chain would fit really well in her butterfly form yeah
I judge with no bias im true neutral so anything I do is right and justified
Question, is Anathema a butterfly or a moth?
both can be true
that the whole point of her design
she is both butterfly and moth
why not both
like, Orphion is like a deer, dog and fox combined
they both creature of day and night
light and dark
even in one of the shrine in roguhwork
when you interact with it
it descript the image to be either butterfly or moth
she meant to be seen as both
Ah.
I love my butterfly moth anathema
Anothe reason why Anathema design is good and Oprhion fucking SUCK
should Orphion be a firefly?
or like
a giant sunfish
can you imagine sunfish Orphion
Orphion can stay as a fox
It just I wish they do more weird thing with his design
SUNFISH š š
Than him being anatomically correct
orphion just a fox with antlers
while anathema is a sickass butterfly creature thingy
someone need to make this big guy Orphion
If you make a god like being who embodiment abstract concept
And you make it a something thst coukd exist in normal world
You fucking fail at your job
orphion got that dog in him
Anathema design is fine because
You canāt make bug anymore freakier
So it fine
yea, orphion made the light creatures in his image
Ajf those light creature are literally cube with wing and shit lol
Why is Orphion the exception here like
Why is he boring ass fox creature
profitable
like Anathema just is so cool design ways in every way
If they make a plushie of her I'm 100% going to try a buy it.
i like how his design makes the parasite believable
hes just not opposable enough to pry it off himself
Literally any other design can do thst job lol
awawawawa I love Anathema, giant butterfly
also her symbol look like Orphion symbol combined with Saphanis symbols, itl ook really cool
or im just hallucinating
It is
and then compare it with this
literally, white fox, antler, orange tail
Why is he anatomically accurate?
he is not screaming " i am the embionment of light "
It feel safe
The design scream safe
pet material
probably is
cuz orphion was made before a. lot of the rekindled new models
and they stuck with
the same design choices
I have note for Orphion redesign
instead of revamping him to be more unique
giving him not just regular fucking antlers š„
he's giving lemme get it for you vibe
xd
maybe just maybe, we'll see his "true" form and that was just his form for us to see
so we dont get freaked out
idk
im hoping
man, making Orphion look like borzoi just gonna make him even more pet material
i see Saphanis's vision now
i doubt it but i am allowed to hope
this was my proposal for orphion redesign
Iw ant NoL rework to come with RoL rework
Orphion fight is mostly fight, some tewak could be there but just give Orphion new model
NoL with WTP level of narrative progression would be such a nice way to end RoL
instead of
ORPHION AND HIS CRAZY HOUSE!!!!
piss dog
piss dog
wow you are begging for raid rework again huh
its 2.1 content they wont rework something thats in date
This orphion design would make a golden shower instead of sun shower
he look like mutated pig actually
What's really so wrong about nol anyway?
on it own like it fine
It can feel very video gamey but like it fine but with WTP exist
We need a wtp rework first where are homies at during that?
yeah no fuck NoL man
the palyers ayou are party with in WTP are Zeph, Tasim, and Sui
why would wtp need a rework?
they are stand in
I just want our homies there are the end
they said they want to do raid story mode
so IDK
maybe it will be a thing
maybe not
That would be sick
oh, raid story mode
but other than that
NoL just need better narrative progression
cause like
wtf are these rooms
in NoL
l,ike
Yeah otherwise raid is sick ash
Wtp I mean
Raid solo??
so, we would have tasim , us, Sui and who's the 4th ?
It's suppose to be the end of ROL story
Zeph
evil sunfish
Man fuck tasim btw
nuh uh, tasim is strong af and tanky, bro can tank the queen's
TCC also fall similar problem
still kinda baffle me
like get a load of this guy
he think he can take on Her's Majesty??
I just hate him bc he knows nothing and blames us
and even worse than NoL
because like
TCC at least have a story in the raid
it just
told very badly
You actually did it š
sunfish Orphion
NOTG is like fine
it basic
but like it fine
it functional
I dont expect much first raid
woaw
maybe saphanis is gonna be more fish-like
Seal Orphion sounds peak
NoL on the otherahdn when you endure 5 quests that focus on lore
and a raid that have 80% of its content focus solely gameplay with no attempt to have exciting narratively progression other than just "clearing room"
eyah that
that sad
Trashie has an Eel version which is pretty baller
Show them Trashie
I hate the eel
this is better one
King in Purple looking ass
oh i remember the old fan design of Saphanis
would be nice if every major cutscene are replaced with a link to a custom animation ( Squared Media's style or maybe Mr.furdgemonkeyz's style ) on youtube
we have cutscenes ingame already
my saphanis take too š„ŗ
The whole "eye with extremely dilated black pupil" tends to be really unsettling and it's cool that it's here
crow Saphanis
People always skip em
Remove cutscene skip from raid
God I wish we could
also can someone tell me what happened in apothesis ? like why would the queen became a kaiju moth and open a portal on the sky ? ( i skipped to much of the story )
bowomp
this is like
( i skipped to much of the story )
.-.
I rather keep cutscenes in the style of wynncraft personally
well this is awkward
It's because the Queen revealed back in Overture to Despair that she was infected with a Light parasite about 150-ish years ago
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This is giving me "wynncraft players can't read" vibe xd
Light parasite
that sound kinna fake but i'll accept it.
Yeah like
Her's Majesty was heart broken when she found out about it
But since she was actually revealed to be Qira in disguise in Ensemble of Hope (who was also revealed to be a Dern native), the Light parasite ended up mixing with the darkness she had and corrupting her
So basically we're like, fighting the Queen but corrupted
yeah correct
I love you š
Theorick makes a return at some point
the return of Queen Qira š£ļøš„
as well
this is just so funny
also those " light parasite " are flea in Orphion's fur i assume ?
oh my boat The Lice(s) reference!!
this was old saphanis design
like it fine for most part but i think owl just wayyy better
kitty Saphanis
like
What the hell was that word that was there a second ago-
they are still pissed at the fact that we kill their eye
has anyone tried saving the queen by absorbing her power after the raid ? i tried but that didn't work :((
you die
and no you just get her blessing
You actually did it wrong, you have to play Fallen archetype to actuall absorb her power
didnt think about the fact that queen's role in these images is just bak'al
and then during her fight, use your ultimate and you should be able to suck all of her power in
so the queen had to fill a different position
These are like a whole AU mini comic, cool
I sense that you created this before Apotheosis came out
ah yes using a car battery to power a tv remote
yes
(Ana's eyes)
i wonder what will happen to fruma now since there's no official ruler anymore ? or we'll just beat the queen daily and then give her a moutain of paper to sign in after the fight ?
I remember back then
when Fruma trailer drop
there was a small theory that the queen is intersex rep LOL
sovereigns gonna take over
it was fun
The Queen is spared from death by us the player but she gets demoted to peasant
but oh well she is not meant to be intersex
(She's now some random Espren Citizen we use the Inquisitors to make everyone except her, the Resistance and the Sovereigns forget who she was)
Skill issue
ughh, we unallived 2 of them, 3 left but one almost died bcause of his sandervistan, another is a nerd girl and the last one is just tasim ( don't tell me you expect an adventurer to be a king, that's like asking a random police to be the president )
almost as bad as being in the realm of war
Realm of War didn't have capitalism
is this real @_@?
yes
it's whatever you make of it
how do i archieve this ?
because like in the trailer where we get a clear look at the queen's cape
the wing is uneven so some people though she would be intersex
if u scroll down there are other options where you can say L Bozo and Skill Issue
Maybe you should have been reading the dialogue properly
4 actually but probably just zhiraok, soosu would take over and maybe find other ppl to help lead
but with power of headcanon, we can say she is one
purple do you take dialogue comms š
Yes
How many emeralds you offering
uh
Nvm say what you want me to put in first
Do the dialogues actually have the typing animation?
I'll prep it
Yeah
with the sound
I don't have anything in mind just curious
Cooking over here
What do you want me to put in
now that is some nice editing skill
My recording software is broken one moment I'll restart my PC
Are you able to green screen these or something among those lines so only the dialogue box is visible?
No but I can probably just make a resource pack that makes the hotbar invisible
Anyways hi back what do y'all want
thinking very hard to come up with something
thank you Your Majesty!