oh, true
#📚lore_discussion
signal bough
and whats going on with BtB
drifting aurora
and whats going on with BtB
have you seen the Taker mobs in EO
regal spire
No giver mobs 😔
tepid blade
or we could, and see a super sweet reunion between the original trio
signal bough
aledar but ghostly?
wary lantern
No giver mobs 😔
wooly rhinos give me unfathomable bloodlust, leave me the fuck alone you big ass motherfucker i cant even be food for you atp surely
regal spire
yeah they look similar dont they
There’s a not zero % chance those mobs are intentionally designed to look like Aledar
tepid blade
yeah they look similar dont they
Not just similar, it is basically the same face
regal spire
signal bough
so whats going on here
regal spire
~~wooly rhinos give me unfathomable bloodlust, leave me the fuck alone you big a...
Wooly Rhino nothing on roaring thundah
wary lantern
the roaring knight?????/?/?//
mossy widget
so whats going on here
these have unique kill dialogue
wary lantern
jk
regal spire
They’ve taken Aledar
formal bridge
the takers took all over the place and said "it's takin time"
wary lantern
do we know when the rest of the ost is goin up on the channel btw?
i cant wait
lol
wait this is lore channel mb
hybrid gazelle
Aledar
brittle echo
@quaint wing why u never add me
tepid blade
I swear, if the taken becomes canon, and Tasim will have to fight the Taken, that will be fucked up
split night
How did this happen 😭
the poor little thing is already dead, i hope it depart was painless
wary lantern
I swear, if the taken becomes canon, and Tasim will have to fight the Taken, tha...
??
it is canon? we just fight it in eo he doesnt come with us
regal spire
the poor little thing is already dead, i hope it depart was painless
How’d he get in da ice block
signal bough
tasim will never have to fight the Taken because the player has to suffer always
drifting aurora
it is canon? we just fight it in eo he doesnt come with us
no, you fight the Takers
split night
How’d he get in da ice block
probably jump into very very cold lake
regal spire
probably jump into very very cold lake
That would not turn it into an ice block, though, that would just make it freeze
split night
crisp plinth
Probably really basic but wondering, if the corruption supposedly started in the light forest why is the portal and root on the other side of the map? Im not far into RoL I think and im sure this is smth that is answered but im really curious ab it
split night
Probably really basic but wondering, if the corruption supposedly started in the...
what??
The Decay is NOT the corruption
The decay is said to be the absent of light
crisp plinth
Or are they different? I didnt clock that at all lmao
split night
Or are they different? I didnt clock that at all lmao
they aren't red, the ground look dull and dead 😭
but yeah just play the game
hybrid gazelle
we dont make theory anymore
signal bough
Decay=something ate the Light
Corruption=dark+light
dark=dark
light=light
hybrid gazelle
we just making up random BULSHITTTT
crisp plinth
I thought it was like different names for the same thing and they just looked different bcuz of the different environments lmao
tepid blade
The Decay and the corruption are different, ||one is from the realm of war, the dark is the decay||
split night
Decay=something ate the Light
Corruption=dark+light
dark=dark
light=light
this is just wrong
Corruption is Light's and Dark's HATE
not the combination of Light and Dark, they aren't matter and antimatter xd
crisp plinth
But yeah that makes a lot more sense lol
signal bough
this is just wrong
Corruption is Light's and Dark's HATE
not the combination of ...
it's close enough
split night
But yeah that makes a lot more sense lol
actually things just make more sense if you play the whole game first
xd
split night
it's close enough
yeah i suppose
signal bough
there's some newly-generated corruption in Lutho
crisp plinth
actually things just make more sense if you play the whole game first
Well yeah but im lazy and was really curious lol
signal bough
created from light and dark touching
split night
created from light and dark touching
I think it's more that they fight each other and what bleed create the Corruption, or HATE
that big ass stone look like an arrow that was meant to shot into dern but Orphion just has shit aim so it landed in lutho xd
signal bough
unless it has a sentience itself pretty sure that was the intent
to protect the miners
tepid blade
Is it their hate that creates corruption? I thought it was just a biproduct of the Realm of War's influence?
I know that the Realm of War is a biproduct of the hate between Light and Dark
split night
Is it their hate that creates corruption? I thought it was just a biproduct of t...
yeah I theorize that if Realm of War is a representation of Light's and Dark's HATE, the corruption should be an extension of that hate because like
the corrupted village quest kinda show the effect of the spike on normal people, it make them stay at a constant angered state
so i assume it's HATE that is what revived people and keep them constantly hostile
signal bough
so was Bak'al actually forever dosed in that
split night
I could be wrong though
but this is my best working theory of what Corruption is in its nature
tepid blade
so was Bak'al actually forever dosed in that
I think he had the hate before (being a Fruman exile), but it got MUCH stronger once he got juiced up by war
signal bough
actually there is the CoW
so there's two humans that went through the portal and one alleged one
signal bough
Bak'al met with Anathema and got juiced which could mean he wasnt actually driven nuts
split night
he just HATE for the love of the game
signal bough
something happened to Theorick
subtle obsidian
assuming you're referring to fruma SDs and uh its mostly ab soverigns and like how nuts the history of fruma is imo theyre pretty big reveals
split night
something happened to Theorick
like ice touching corruption
I think pure and condense corruption attack your senses the instant you went into the portal would drive anyone nuts
considering that corruption is airborne
i think he just breath in corruption in the portal xd
signal bough
and Theorick was extremely powerful
makes sense that an ordinary human would have been driven utterly insane
split night
and Theorick was extremely powerful
Theorick is probably a manaweaver I think
signal bough
so from what we know the CoW makes sense
signal bough
Theorick is probably a manaweaver I think
do you think Sui would be more powerful with a staff?
split night
probably??
like we don't know what we are
but we are one hell of a tough opponent with our weapon
tepid blade
do you think Sui would be more powerful with a staff?
I would say she would with more training definitely, and possibly a staff
split night
and then what's Tasim
he can heal Aledar without the need to focus so he probably is one too
tepid blade
and then what's Tasim
He is just one of those people who can use magic without a focus
signal bough
fake ass fruman classification system
but Two's like 'damn a natural born manaweaver'
signal bough
fake ass fruman classification system
is the implication of the non military noble house that the fruman elites are hypocrits? cause I feel like that
signal bough
one carves living statues and the other was uhhhh
straight up elementalists
makes sense
in western fruma, 'cursed' are funneled out to Wynn
in the east, 'cursed' are funneled into the Wings
cedar kernel
Wanna bring this up again
cedar kernel
Did fruma predict the queen’s arrival?
fervent sun
in the east, 'cursed' are funneled into the Wings
what is even going on in krisa manor 😭
cedar kernel
And also: what was the deal with fruma before the queen arrived — they couldn’t have gotten out before Bak’al no?
Supposedly fruma was closed off then as well
signal bough
And also: what was the deal with fruma before the queen arrived — they couldn’t ...
can you provide some context
I presume this is from the translated stuff
cedar kernel
Only thing from Takashtel I’ve mentioned is the astronomers
Tefris’ testament in the mountains of the roughworks mentions hashr and astronomers
The stela on the mountain outlines the lore that establishes how frumans colonized Wynn
Now the question I mean to pose is one of chronology: what came before what?
signal bough
Oh definitely happened before the portal
tepid blade
Now the question I mean to pose is one of chronology: what came before what?
Humans colonized Wynn first, because why would they exile Bak'al to become a soldier in Wynn if there was no one living there?
hybrid gazelle
Supposedly fruma was closed off then as well
Fruma was close before the queen take throne Ywah since it’s council decision
So we know that the council was a thing on 0 AP
Yet the queen did say it was time of chaos before she take throne
There could be civil war gojng on as we see in tefris shrine
Maybe the closing the border is a controversial decision that lead the entire empire to undergo civil war
In which the queen take advantage of and bring order
signal bough
The regions immediately next to Fruma were not very attractive ngl
Wynn was in the beginning of its war and corkus is canonically icky to Frumans
steel cosmos
wait what is bakals lore?
i know he was like a soldier or smth
but when did he enter the portal?
hybrid gazelle
but when did he enter the portal?
He just step in
We don’t know when
But it likely early in the war
Like
Very very early
Consider the attack on settlements are for gathering tomes and knowledge to build resonance weaver
steel cosmos
what year did the queen take escape and take over
cedar kernel
Wynn was in the beginning of its war and corkus is canonically icky to Frumans
I’m gonna have to translate more Takashtel to understand that if that’s needed for it
rich blaze
what is resonance weaver?
mossy badge
A device that makes the weave resonate
mossy badge
Reality or smth
frozen turtle
im not fully sure but like magic/reality is described as strings (the 5 elements),corruption and stuff also is a string or smth but not the same and essentially it weaves the strings
so basically controls reality kinda
mossy badge
Particle string theory in wonncraft confirmed
nova goblet
So player is also natural manaweaver?
uneven basin
Player is a familiar spark to anathema which is probably something else / more than a "simple" natural born manaweaver
hybrid gazelle
what is resonance weaver?
pretty much reality bending device
hybrid gazelle
So player is also natural manaweaver?
not comfirm but if we were, Two would have point out like Sui
Manaweaver so far seems to draw mana from different source and it seems that it's infinite
and they also see magic as thread to be pull
and they capable of sensing the presence of other influence such as corruption
actually yeah it comfirm we are not mana weaver
because when Sui ask us if we felt the same thing as her
we said no
primal anchor
familiar spark might just be fourth walling
if a really powerful creature looks at the player with every ounce of their being they can just tell the player has infinite lives
nova goblet
never expected tragic yuri in wynncraft
Mainline has happy yaoi in wynncraft
||or maybe even 2 yaois, one of them being tragic too||
raven juniper
Mainline has happy yaoi in wynncraft
||or maybe even 2 yaois, one of them being...
there's hope then
nova goblet
though i am familliar with two happy ones
Two?
worldly raft
just finished missing piece
its so fucked up😭 legit teared up
nova goblet
In fruma
pine flower
In fruma
you never mentioned that
there uh
i know of the happy one
but idk the tragic one
rich blaze
pretty much reality bending device
soosu made it ik, what was its purpose and did it get made
hybrid gazelle
soosu made it ik, what was its purpose and did it get made
Did you complete fruma story
Cause it explain in it
mossy badge
soosu made it ik, what was its purpose and did it get made
||She didn't||
nova goblet
but idk the tragic one
||tasim and aledar had weird energy||
uneven basin
|| it was one sided tho (okay maybe not but it's more tragic this way ||
quasi dawn
whats the best way to light this up
pine flower
||tasim and aledar had weird energy||
the yaoi that never got to be 😔
hexed birch
whats the best way to light this up
ts is not lore relevant
nova goblet
the yaoi that never got to be 😔
eh, maybe tasim gets a girl, have children and live happy live in fruma
hybrid gazelle
that man is gay as fuck so no and also very anti social
nova goblet
who knows
pine flower
nah his ass is NOT living happily anywhere near fruma
hybrid gazelle
nah his ass is NOT living happily anywhere near fruma
At least Zhiraok probably get off by helping managing people and actualyl being the one who took intitate to go against hte queen
so as Soosu
pine flower
yeah
hybrid gazelle
Tasim's ass AINT staying anywhere in Fruma as long as there possiblity he come breathing distance near Sui
or any of the Leaves for that matter
pine flower
also theyre already established leaders of their parts
pine flower
Tasim's ass AINT staying anywhere in Fruma as long as there possiblity he come b...
ehh i dont think he's as worried about sui than he is his actions
hybrid gazelle
I dont think you can stare someone in the eyes after you chop their friend's arm and involve with the group that killed her famil=y
split night
Tasim gotta feel so much guilt hitting him afterward when things settle down a bit
At least that is how his character should feel?
playing through Fruma make me feel like he's Berdly serving Queen but less annoying
pine flower
I dont think you can stare someone in the eyes after you chop their friend's arm...
i mean he tried to help them from the family part, also i think he'd be more worried of staring into rex's eyes
primal anchor
fuuck dont call him berdly
split night
fuuck dont call him berdly
xd
He's definitely not berdly alright but I would pay to see Sui snowgrave him in a route
hybrid gazelle
i mean he tried to help them from the family part, also i think he'd be more wor...
He still just a guy trying to help out the world so realizing that he supporting literal fascist empire for nothing would fuck him up mentally
primal anchor
xd
He's definitely not berdly alright but I would pay to see Sui snowgrave him i...
ct would
hybrid gazelle
and probably after discovering that Aledar is part of the Leaves
yeah
he FUCKED UPPPPPP
lethal hill
guys is the new interaction with the door under the palace have been known?
hybrid gazelle
no
elfin oak
whats the best way to light this up
torch every 5th block
pine flower
He still just a guy trying to help out the world so realizing that he supporting...
mhm thats why i said he'd be more afraid of that than looking sui in the eyes
pine flower
but with rune on you you can interact the door
if you bring all 5 its a different interaction too
lethal hill
if you bring all 5 its a different interaction too
yea that what I was asking is that new lol
pine flower
currently trying to get a stack of eks to try overloading with stacks of each rune
pine flower
yea that what I was asking is that new lol
ahhh
lethal hill
does it show that having more rune help?
hybrid gazelle
no it not new
it been there for long time now
nope
nothing we do can activate it currently
likely something to do with ultimate discovery
hybrid gazelle
there is but at the same time
pine flower
does it show that having more rune help?
nah i just wanna try it
hybrid gazelle
the dialogue seems to put emphasis on the room
Fruma has 5 regions
and each region associate with different runes
pine flower
if there is any way to open the door i imagine itd probably be some hidden text somewhere in old fruman that tells you youd need like x az, y nii, z uth, etc
hybrid gazelle
Auburn being Az
Roughwork being Tol
Mistwood being Uth
Highland being Ek
and Wasteland being Nii
that just theory rn
and do ultimate discovery for each region would lead you to unlocking ultimate discovery for the citadel
mossy badge
if there is any way to open the door i imagine itd probably be some hidden text ...
I dont think that will be the solution lol
pine flower
I dont think that will be the solution lol
maybe not, just feels like it would tie in pretty well to how runes are pretty involved in it all, and be pretty easy to implement
hybrid gazelle
if there is any way to open the door i imagine itd probably be some hidden text ...
the thing that old fruman is very niche and no way casual player would figure it out unless they look up outside source
and Fruma rn missing ultimate discovery
old fruman content so far is very hidden away
pine flower
the thing that old fruman is very niche and no way casual player would figure it...
i should clarify that I think that if there is a way to open it right now, it would make sense for it to be that
hybrid gazelle
probably?? but IDK ct said it before there is no way to open it rn
I could be wrong tho
pine flower
in that case yeah its just not implemented yet
split night
there should be like a google doc
That's, really hard to do for one person
hell even for a group it would still be hard
and I'm not talking about having to update that document regularly to like keep it as accurate as possible because lore can change, old stuff can be remake so
rich blaze
That's, really hard to do for one person
hell even for a group it would still be...
but old stuff is only remade in major updates though, which have at least a year's worth of spacing
digital swan
but old stuff is only remade in major updates though, which have at least a year...
decade*
digital swan
we all know dern update is coming in the 2030s or 40s
split night
beats me, someone start a group project i guess
rich blaze
aight bet
split night
we all know dern update is coming in the 2030s or 40s
i might as well have kids that do lootrunning for me when i cook them dinner
rich blaze
mossy badge
There's alr a doc with full timeline btw
rich blaze
oh yeah
mossy badge
rich blaze
https://docs.google.com/document/d/119UJDgULyjSy-suC8W1w-oibhDvT6uPq4RwxzqBTzjE/...
dude this is crazy
so much stuff lmao
mossy badge
Tbh its not even that much, like its only mainline not side stuff (which well not that interesting but still)
hybrid gazelle
because unlike warhammer or runeterra where all of these stuff can be read
wynncraft is a game with overarching story
so having the lore being in complete series just feel very odd
split night
not to mention interpretation
rich blaze
not to mention interpretation
interpretation?
hybrid gazelle
and then get spoiled like many impactful movement in the story
hybrid gazelle
interpretation?
lore in wynncraft is pretty vague time to time which then leave you to interprept to fill the gap
split night
interpretation?
Why did Orphion choose Lari for example
I always interpret that he choose her because of her pacifism
rich blaze
Why did Orphion choose Lari for example
I always interpret that he choose her be...
tbf aren't most elves pacifists
hybrid gazelle
I probably will contribute
rich blaze
I probably will contribute
goat
split night
tbf aren't most elves pacifists
Not the ones that cut the first Guardian of the Forest
xd
rich blaze
Not the ones that cut the first Guardian of the Forest
prometheus moment
tbf he thought orphion told him to do it
split night
they seems to not care much and have morality like humans
Dullahan is reasonable for example
rich blaze
dullahan yeah
split night
Lari is extreme pacifism yeah, she apply it to all living things
rich blaze
Lari is extreme pacifism yeah, she apply it to all living things
even the parasite
except bak'al
split night
*except bak'al*
At that point in the story, she realized her wrong about her morality so it make sense
rich blaze
yeah
split night
this is just peak
hybrid gazelle
Bak'al is post her character arc
The problem with timeline is that while it give you a time indication to what happen
but it so simplified it left out the context
and some lore summary pretty much either copy of timline or just left out what each province meant to be
in summary
split night
I think it serves its function well as a lore keypoints instead of like a well put lore document
rich blaze
dude what the hell is "experiment eldritch"
hybrid gazelle
what
rich blaze
anyways also
i am assuming the hero who killed the Dead Island creature was bob
just cause bob went around the world
split night
there we go, interpretation
hybrid gazelle
the thing is that
Dead Isalnd is so outdated
so as many thing in the ocean
that 90% of the ocean has to be omitted from the current lore summary
as literally barely any of them worth bringing up
so we got this entire massive area that just
not worth bring up at all
rich blaze
dead island does look outdated yeah
split night
zhight island relevancy in the plot:
rich blaze
zhight island relevancy in the plot:
huge
rich blaze
dont get me on Wynnex
oh yeah that
formal bridge
The entire ocean looks outdated, did you ever look down when swimming?
hybrid gazelle
literally there reason therem ention of reworking ROL and AJB/AJF
rather than Wynnex
because Wynnex at its core
rich blaze
is an old questline????
hybrid gazelle
while do tell us about Light and Dark
it is
but like
that the thing Wynnex core issue that it's such an old quest
that in its conception it just very very unintresting from the start
it's a quest where you chasing a mcguffin
and you go around the world in which there is no cahracter you can get attatch with
so in comparison to ROL or AJB/AJF
where they got these things
it just not really that intresting
Wynnex likely getting rework after AJB/AJF and ROL tho
PROBABLY
formal bridge
It also has the problem of the villain going "myeh heh heh, I actually tricked you into going to all of those places!"
hybrid gazelle
That too
Villagers also like
Out ofa ll quests in the game
Wynnex heavily associate with villagers
split night
It also has the problem of the villain going "myeh heh heh, I actually tricked y...
weird ass plot twist
hybrid gazelle
and as long as villagers stay as they are now
rich blaze
yeah
hybrid gazelle
I highly dobut CT will ever put their hands on Wynnex until they finally figure out what to do with Villager
rich blaze
they should have introduced big a in 1 or 2
formal bridge
It doesn't even work cause like, how could Amadel control the first two quests and most of the third
Have Amadel be the questgiver from the start
rich blaze
Have Amadel be the questgiver from the start
good idea
formal bridge
If you really want to keep the twist
rich blaze
or just have him be the obvious villain
tepid blade
It also has the problem of the villain going "myeh heh heh, I actually tricked y...
Quite literally that whole plot point is “I have thought one thousand steps ahead of you, I am a genius and you are dumb, muhahaha”
rich blaze
and not try to do a twist
formal bridge
And then he turns into the wither
rich blaze
And then he turns into the wither
😭
hybrid gazelle
Mcguffin that "it's important because I say so"
formal bridge
Cause this is back when dern beast would be ender dragon
rich blaze
at least give him a 3d model made of blocks or smth
split night
Cause this is back when dern beast would be ender dragon
😭
tepid blade
It’s funny because they use the wither twice, and neither are related
hybrid gazelle
wynne xi s so OLDDD that they cant afford to make his boss to be armor stand
that how old wynnex is
hybrid gazelle
it so old
yet funniyl enough I dont even think it gonna be remake anytime soon LOL
formal bridge
It's just unimportant enough to not be touched
Similar to jungle and temple of legends
formal bridge
Priorities are elsewhere for the devs
It would be nice if they did a midgame reborn update next but I wouldn't blame them if they didn't
hybrid gazelle
AJB/AJF got massive counity error that need to be fix
tepid blade
It’s only big lore relevancy is explaining where the Olm went after Saphanis attacked their city in SE
hybrid gazelle
and its story is heavily needed for Fruma story
so having it in low quality is a bad foundation for Fruma story
ROL also where player get introduce to the concept of War of the realm fully and being the most promenient
so having it being one of the worst quests according to general community
is very bad
so these 2 questlines in need of remake compare to Wynnex who is like
so and so
also this apply to DND too
tepid blade
DND?
hybrid gazelle
Dwarves and dogun
tepid blade
Oh
hybrid gazelle
There also orc war
but it never offically turn into questline in the game
but like
formal bridge
Story quest reborn update next cause frankly everything after spiders with the bois needs a rework lmao
split night
I think when they revamp most of the major quest line ( 2030 ), they can finally start doing thing to the ocean
and dern
hybrid gazelle
There also The Envoy
it exist
it sure do exist
Where wynncraft left off rn
which is Fruma
is probably good enough for CT to just go work on other stuff
back then having SE being the end point is
awful
SE is definitely one of the expansion ever
rich blaze
back then having SE being the end point is
to what end?
formal bridge
SE has the feeling of them trying to make the cool final area you see in MMOs but not having the experience needed to make it good
So you have big spooky quests leading to the fight with the eye and then the hunter's calling as a full game wrapup
hybrid gazelle
the only thing good about SE is that it got cool eldritch asthetic
but like
ANYTHING else
no
It barely has any content
barely any of its region got fresh out
Its dungeon only good by merit of the fact that EVERY DUNGEON IN THE GAME
IS DOG SHIT
slim belfry
yeah it's pretty empty too
hybrid gazelle
there literally 0 competition
like
okay I can see the vision
it's barren wasteland
like fine
I can see the vision
but having it like end game area just kinda sad
split night
Its dungeon only good by merit of the fact that EVERY DUNGEON IN THE GAME
I fucking hate eldrich outlook because of the invisible parkour
hybrid gazelle
but fruma fix that by not having SE ast THE end game area
formal bridge
I've mentioned it here before but it really is just a bad haunted house tour that the player gets taken on through the quests
hybrid gazelle
SE just feel like
a side optional DLC of a game
that for some reason made madetory LOL
tepid blade
And the EO dungeon still sucks in my opinion, as the rooms go from, frustrating, easy, hard, mega frustrating, and an actually cool boss
hybrid gazelle
SE give off taht vibe
formal bridge
Yeah EO dungeon is the only one which is like, absurdly frustrating to try and pull off with how absurd some of the rooms are
slim belfry
I hate the first EO room it drags on for too long
hybrid gazelle
I ahve my other issue with EO
formal bridge
I've only beaten it solo on my lightbender cause I heal spammed
tepid blade
It has the biggest quality increases and decreases between rooms
hasty beacon
I fucking hate eldrich outlook because of the invisible parkour
The invis parkour is easy just look down and use your crosshair as a shadow
slim belfry
nowhere
formal bridge
Every other dungeon fine but EO is weirdly hard for no reason
tepid blade
The invis parkour is easy just look down and use your crosshair as a shadow
But that still sucks to do
formal bridge
It's also tedious
hybrid gazelle
you though the eye that has its mass grow out of it
would have control over EO
but it not??
formal bridge
It goes on wayyy too long after you figure it out
rich blaze
oh yeah in every dungeon
split night
The invis parkour is easy just look down and use your crosshair as a shadow
I know that, it is still extremely ASS to do
rich blaze
the boss does talk to you
hasty beacon
But that still sucks to do
Once you realize your jump length is the same no matter where you look its really easy
hybrid gazelle
the boss does talk to you
As much as I fucking hate dungeon boss keeping talking to you
rich blaze
witherhead, arakadius, charon, hashr, theorick, redbeard, slykaar, garoth doenst rlly count
hybrid gazelle
The eye not talking already limiting its limited screentime
split night
honestly if dungeons have raid's quality it would be so peak
rich blaze
even am's nice cousin
slim belfry
maybe if once the squad enters the SE they all get a vision of the eye
hybrid gazelle
YOU KNOW WHAT WEIRD?
The eye is literally like
would make sense to talk to you throughout the dungeon
but it fucking did not
compare to literally other dungeon boss in this game
WHY THE FUCK
IS THE BOSS THAT OVERSEE AND EVER PRESENCE IS THE ONE WHO DO NOT TALK WHILE OTHER DUNGEON BOSS WONT SHUT THE FUCK UP
slim belfry
yeah that was a strange opportunity left out
hybrid gazelle
WItherhead has that aura loss the moment you enter the sewer and she start speaking
split night
I'm waiting for someone to tell you that "duh, it's an eye not mouth"
hasty beacon
honestly if dungeons have raid's quality it would be so peak
“If dungeons were good they would be good”
split night
“If dungeons were good they would be good”
tepid blade
Magic
hybrid gazelle
Theorick be like "Nooo,, Turn back,,, I am turning EVIL Theorick,,,"
hasty beacon
The walls are extremely echoey
hybrid gazelle
Akkadicus is like
literal spider
like
I dont think they would make her talk in IP remake
that like
she literal spider
why is there talking spider in wynn
hasty beacon
Theres a talking mushroom
slim belfry
different reason too
hybrid gazelle
yeah
hasty beacon
Same thing whatever
tepid blade
why is there talking spider in wynn
It’s a magical fire speaking spider 🙂
hybrid gazelle
last time I check
gavel is across the ocean from Wynn
and it's entire different landmass
with its own theme and ecology
and also the circumstance of talking mushroom is actually unique
due to him being science experiment
rather than
being naturally grown mushroom
hybrid gazelle
Frma seems to understand that
you can make creatures intresting without requiring them to speak
by expanding their ecology
so I wanna see what they going to do with Akaddicus and obviously not normal spiders
also literally there supppose to be lore
about how volcano magic suppose to grant them magic
that exist
how does the volcano magic burn their web?
IDk
fight fire with fire I guess
rich blaze
idk
tepid blade
Doesn’t the spider dungeon also has random humanoid spiders?
tepid blade
True
hybrid gazelle
so like
rich blaze
thats just their model because they forgot to update the models for them
hybrid gazelle
we probably just assume it meant to be very weird ass propotion spiders
tepid blade
It is old as F
rich blaze
i just assumed big spiders
hybrid gazelle
hasty beacon
Arguing about the logic of old wynncraft is pointless because there was no logic
hybrid gazelle
SST being remake is definitely would be intresting
rich blaze
Arguing about the logic of old wynncraft is pointless because there was no logic
exactly
hybrid gazelle
consider the new lore we got
make sense to why they were holding SST back
in 2.1
either that or nobody give a fuck about Hashr
tepid blade
The only logic in old Wynncaft is “would it be cool if blank”
hybrid gazelle
actually I just think nobody give a shit aobut Hashr
formal bridge
Old wynncraft is just "uh it's a fantasy mmo but in minecraft. Get it?"
rich blaze
yeah
hasty beacon
How dare they
rich blaze
yeah they were just doin shit
tepid blade
Devs, halving fun? Evil devs
rich blaze
exactly since fruma is so peak 😭 and then we got "mauaahahahah i bretrayed u im 120102102102901290109 million steps ahead haha"
when we had a few interactions with him 20 levels ago
hybrid gazelle
TBH
fruma push up a lot of standard
even side quest
side quests actually not jsut random shit but exist to expand on eixsting region
with a strong premise
and not like
SOME QUESTS
"hey guys what if we add shrek into the game"
slim belfry
fruma side quests are really something yeah
split night
"hey guys what if we add shrek into the game"
i hate that this is canon and true as well 😭
unique cedar
It's fun how some quests are disconnected and we just go around helping people though, ocean quests have that fun vibe, wish there we more of em
tepid blade
None of the Fruma quests are like “you see that cave over there, I don’t like the people inside it, go kill them and their families for like spare change”
unique cedar
We casually stop two viking clans from fighting I think?
tepid blade
We casually stop two viking clans from fighting I think?
We do, but they still fight as their spies still spawn
split night
None of the Fruma quests are like “you see that cave over there, I don’t like th...
did a villager give this quest or smth
unique cedar
Probably just a mechanics issue
edgy loom
yall think in lore people outside fruma could see the sky cracking?
formal bridge
And it's also broken as hell cause the town guard ai is not meant to deal with constant spawning inside their towns lmao
unique cedar
can't really make them stop spawning on quest completion
would require adding another trigger
formal bridge
You also have one island which is just a weird fortress and the other which is from a removed santa quest
tepid blade
did a villager give this quest or smth
No, just a hypothetical, but it did exist then a villager would be the quest giver
split night
No, just a hypothetical, but it did exist then a villager would be the quest giv...
I know it's a hypothetical xd
unique cedar
Skien's Island needs some love
So big for basically just a boss altar and a part in reincarnation
Dungeon material maybe?
with a quest
formal bridge
Eh we don't really need more dungeons
rich blaze
with a quest
frffr
formal bridge
I've said it before and I'll keep saying dungeons are just repeatable quests at their absolute best design wise
formal bridge
They don't offer anything unique anymore
rich blaze
guys shold i do the realms of influence part on the doc
hybrid gazelle
we LOADED on dungeon in early game
unique cedar
I think them having variable rooms would fix it
hasty beacon
Hopefully fruma dungeon will have replay value and useful rewards
formal bridge
Variable rooms at least gives some replayability
hasty beacon
Hopefully fruma dungeon will have replay value and useful rewards
2 things dungeons are sorely lacking
unique cedar
Well that is if Fruma Dungeons are gonna be a thing
I think there should be a dungeon rework before any new are added
hybrid gazelle
TBH
formal bridge
Dungeons now just give tools, which you get once and then just repair forever, and random items you'll outlevel before it is useful to have them really
formal bridge
And then corrupted dungeons are... a thing
unique cedar
You now get tools through the item upgrader
hybrid gazelle
corrupted Dungeons sure do exist
formal bridge
So they're even more useless since now they're vestigial
You could just change the currency and be done with it
Like, just have you spend the materials you gain to buy the next tier. Wood to buy axes, grain for scythes, etc. Or just make it a money thing
At the moment it's basically just "do you have the keys and the patience to redo this dungeon again and again"
split night
just make the dungeon fragment be able to trade into emeralds and im happy
hybrid gazelle
funny thing about fogery is that
since you would never want to do forgery
beside VERY SPECIFIC reason
forgery key in lootruns just fucking useless slot
taht just exist to steal your pulls 😭
split night
beside VERY SPECIFIC reason
do it for completion in the content book 😔
unique cedar
I think forgery dungeons just being corrupted dungeons is a meh concept considering it has some lore about parallel dimensions or something like that
what if it was parallel dungeons
formal bridge
Yeah forgery in lootrun is basically just "hey, do you want to do this less fun and even more repetitive grinding game?"
cinder cedar
I hated every second of trying to grind for T12 tools because corrupted Galleon kept sequence breaking and I hated Eldrich’s parkour.
unique cedar
like "what if the Avos tried to take corkus back"
and you're climbing a huge tree
instead of the factory
hybrid gazelle
i think key guardian as a concept should be gone except if they remake it
because olike
it fucking jarring to see CGG key guardian
in fucking SE
like
why is there big ass tentacle here
formal bridge
What, you don't like having to grind more key mobs and more runes just to be able to enter the dungeons? /s
unique cedar
for nesaak it would be just corrupted theorick before he managed to coat nesaak into ice
or maybe something more interesting
tepid blade
it fucking jarring to see CGG key guardian
It’s even worse seeing them in the sky islands area
formal bridge
Random mob you have to hope to find and kill in a random nonsensical location
Which is solely for the level range fitting
unique cedar
like "what if the Avos tried to take corkus back"
Would also be a cool way to incorporate some what if concepts that people are thinking about
answering lore questions that won't happen normally
formal bridge
Just delete hunter's calling from the game and replace it with better what if corrupted dungeons
It'd only be marginally less repetitive than both of them are now
cinder cedar
I do like that the Corrupted bosses in the Forger seem to be reanimated and buffed by the Corruption
unique cedar
Eldritch Outlook would be the opposite thing for if the Light took over the silent expanse
now that would look cool
maybe it's not even the eye up there
since Orphion would have the high ground in that universe
split night
Eldritch Outlook would be the opposite thing for if the Light took over the sile...
:>
slim belfry
yeah corrupted dungeons instead being what if scenarios in general would be awesome
unique cedar
Ima make a suggestion post later
hybrid gazelle
yoiu know what funny?
unique cedar
probably too vague to be considered but oh well
hybrid gazelle
Forgery literally similar shit to what Two does
like
that the funniest shit of all
unique cedar
yeah
slim belfry
it's also like ahc but not dragging on
hybrid gazelle
Two is Forgery Rework theory
unique cedar
is there a list of all the forgery lore somewhere
slim belfry
what could this all mean...
summer bluff
forgery key in lootruns just fucking useless slot
Not anymore baybeeee now you need more of the shards to upgrade your tools
hybrid gazelle
this imply that people proff
summer bluff
With the item upgrader
split night
mount system force us to prof, but they haven't make proffing fun 😔
split island
is there any dialogue after you finish the raid other than anathema's dialogue?
formal bridge
Legitimately I have no clue what could make proffing fun
It's the same in literally any crafting system
formal bridge
Maybe just like, less exp requirements
tepid blade
Aledar's grave
Leaves in the winds base
split night
Aledar's grave
you missed an interaction with Kaio at the start of Fruma too xd
hybrid gazelle
TBH
I think my main gripe with Fruma story is that
with al lcool story going on
hybrid gazelle
it just feel missing that end credit screen for me for the expansion story
but liek that fiar
I dont think that ever be a thing
due ot how wynncraft story go
summer bluff
Legitimately I have no clue what could make proffing fun
Watching/listening to a show while doing it
slim belfry
the butterfly effect will just be an epilogue on how to establish a reasonable province-wide government
summer bluff
the butterfly effect will just be an epilogue on how to establish a reasonable p...
The mistwoods is going to be a whole thing to deal with man
Like what did you even do with all the changelings and the secret mistwood clans
split night
the butterfly effect will just be an epilogue on how to establish a reasonable p...
I love that Fruma is the only well defined large country with actual border in the game
beside Corkus and Dwarf home i guess
formal bridge
Tbf it's the only region not plagued by massive threats throughout the region
split night
Tbf it's the only region not plagued by massive threats throughout the region
Anathema really kept it safe
formal bridge
Good luck establishing a regional government when you have corruption spikes everything driving anyone who lives near them crazy
Or constant warring in Gavel with the orcs of the plains and swamps alongside meteors everywhere meaning tons of weirds
split island
Well Anathema was the danger in that region xD
she was ruling like a tyrant + she took the region by force when she first came
split night
Her system work only well enough to keep it safe not making it comfortable for the residents xd
formal bridge
"""Safe""" in the sense that she'd nuke the world if anything tried coming into it
split island
Well lack of freedom just to be "safe" isn't really good
tepid blade
Safety and order to justify her harsh rule, a long with a lot of propaganda
slim belfry
I still remember going to the highlands thinking this is nice until I looked into the lake
split night
"""Safe""" in the sense that she'd nuke the world if anything tried coming into ...
Her's Majesty was Kim all along
formal bridge
I'm still pf the headcanon that the reason the regions are so stratified is because she sees that as how society is, without understanding the nuance
split island
Really the secret discovery in the lake was all I needed to just call her a tyrant xD.
formal bridge
You have the pretty forests, the people who work a lot, the angry ones in the jungle, and the rich people
Which is why she gets so pissy when Auburn pumps out revolutionaries
"Hey, that's the Mistwoods job, not yours! Get flooded"
split island
if not for the soveigns of the lower regions the whole place would be a shithole for the poor and a paradise for the rich
formal bridge
If not for Zhiraok*
split island
Zhiraok is the chad
split night
Zhiroak has always been goated 😔
slim belfry
Zhiraok's name is really something
split island
For me mistwoods is my favorite region. Gikyo was the best soveign in terms of design for me
split night
I'm still pf the headcanon that the reason the regions are so stratified is beca...
not understanding human is a built-in feature of eldrich gods huh xd
split night
For me mistwoods is my favorite region. Gikyo was the best soveign in terms of d...
My favorite is Auburn Forest and Aspren Town, I love the songs
and also there is a public transit in the form of train here
split island
meanwhile in the mistwoods you survive with hopes and prayers xD
split island
shhhh
unique cedar
Ima make a suggestion post later
hybrid gazelle
I'm still pf the headcanon that the reason the regions are so stratified is beca...
her dialogue about wynn recruits imply that she DID understand nuance
it just the fact with how she form fruma society
it more like a well oiled machines that make for effeciency
Auburn is a tourist spots that pretty much untouch by the crown
the queen is heavily fond with it and probably likely why she barely meddle with its to keep its beauty
industrial distruct is well
the industrial district
it's produce everything for the crown
the highland while first sight is a place for luxury
is pretty much breeding ground for politican, soldiers, and other powerful authority that will ensure fruma rule since they live in ignorant
which then lead to Citadel which is th queen's place
jsut as the lore discovery said
this ENTIRE empire
is made for HER
all of this suffering is just easy short cut just to make this empire appeal to her and her only
hybrid gazelle
Mistwood probably intended to have other use
unique cedar
Couldn't make it liveable
hybrid gazelle
but I guess the queen manage to find a way to workshop it
but yeah being a place for changeling spies to ensure fruma have its eyes on everywhere
like fuck consider inquistor existence
I wont even surpirse changeling spies do appear other place in the world
just never be found
hybrid gazelle
if not for the soveigns of the lower regions the whole place would be a shithole...
tbh mostyly Soosu just ignorance to the suffering of people in Roughwork because she coop up in her mansion
ZHiraok just trying his best
but overall Auburn people living like fine as lon as you lvie around Espren
unique cedar
like fuck consider inquistor existence
Inquisitor Changelings
Imagine
best spies ever
rich blaze
can someone help me with magic system part pls
added "b" to corkus
this is truly revolutionary, this encompasses all the lore of corkus and more
split island
borkus?
lone bone
Oh great loremasters of Wynncraft, do any of you know where this NPC is?
lone bone
Cuz a friend challenged me to find him and I can't (he told me I can ask ppl for help)
But wdym "this little guy in gavel" where do I go to find him 😭
split night
I feel like I know a random ass dog in gavel that if i take a screenshot of no one would find where he is
this apply to the little guy in the image xd
lone bone
😭
split night
do your friend reward you anything if you actually found the little guy
lone bone
But like how do you know he's in Gavel
rich blaze
guys can yall hop on lore doc pls
split night
ask them for a stx of LEs and we split
rich blaze
i neeeed this
uneven basin
Oh great loremasters of Wynncraft, do any of you know where this NPC is?
Uuuuh sewers of cinfras ?
lone bone
I was told sewer of cinfras by someone else too but where do I enter them I can't find it?
Like there is the quest zone for the detective quest but it's not there
split night
i felt like i have seen the guy before but i don't remember exactly how i found him
xd
rich blaze
same
uneven basin
Well I checked the sewers he ain't there
lone bone
So for once it's not just me being blind
unique cedar
Oh great loremasters of Wynncraft, do any of you know where this NPC is?
How did you get to the npc? 👀
unique cedar
How did the screenshot came to exist then?
lone bone
Like I said my friend challenged me to find the NPC
lone bone
yk what that would totally be his type to send me a NPC impossible to reach
drifting aurora
Oh great loremasters of Wynncraft, do any of you know where this NPC is?
i think i know where this is
hybrid gazelle
Those two know
lone bone
Those two know
those who nol
chilly tulip
So uh, the Gale in Qira Hive is the Gale mentioned in “A House Divided” in the Highlands right? The item you can get from her during the Festival of the Blizzard is even called “Crest of the Highlands” so it’s gotta be her right?
lone bone
Yes
chilly tulip
Okay good, I just wanted to confirm that for myself
How do you think she got out of Fruma though, like did she just fly
celest falcon
Well there is a tunnel right next to house Nasin that leads to a cliff overlooking Ragni’s southern entrance, it even has blue cyclones
lusty glacier
Well there is a tunnel right next to house Nasin that leads to a cliff overlooki...
blue cyclone?
celest falcon
The flowers, they’re in the gavel quest Death Whistle
Although they might be called Cyclone Blues
marble lantern
Do we know who the Player is? Probably talked about before but I am uninformed on most lore happenings.
regal walrus
Salted has stated that he wants the players lore to be more open so that people can interpret what they want
celest falcon
Do we know who the Player is? Probably talked about before but I am uninformed o...
The player is a blank slate, there’s no real information on their identity back in Fruma. We do get some tidbits that there was definitely something and that they were someone but there’s nothing concrete.
Perfect for making angsty headcanons and what not about your player character
shut hornet
Oh great loremasters of Wynncraft, do any of you know where this NPC is?
im aware of this npc but unsure if he is possible to reach through legitimate means
(i don't know how to get to him)
lusty glacier
where was ||aledar's grave||?
tepid blade
where was ||aledar's grave||?
At the Leave's in the winds base
lone bone
where was ||aledar's grave||?
on a side of the rebels base
lusty glacier
im there rn i couldnt find
signal bough
actually we got a dialogue option where the player can say they spawned in out of nothing
tepid blade
im there rn i couldnt find
It is sort of hidden, it took me a minute to find myself
tepid blade
actually we got a dialogue option where the player can say they spawned in out o...
Where???
signal bough
with the guy in the news stand in hyloch
tepid blade
with the guy in the news stand in hyloch
Oh
ripe tiger
Do we know who the Player is? Probably talked about before but I am uninformed o...
i always wondered if the player is just a normal guy without theirweapon. there is even quests suggesting that
signal bough
ok, theory
lusty glacier
It is sort of hidden, it took me a minute to find myself
towards where is it?
signal bough
the player spawned in and was immediately sent to Wynn
without going through memory erasure
or uh
yeah just no memory erasure
tepid blade
the player spawned in and was immediately sent to Wynn
I have seen it before, but it doesn't make much sense as the Queen knew we where from Fruma when she sent out the call for Recruits to return
tepid blade
towards where is it?
I don't remember, but its there
shut hornet
Oh great loremasters of Wynncraft, do any of you know where this NPC is?
i dont think this npc is possible to reach currently. if it is, i need to know how
but i suspect that if your friend got here they are either freecamming or had a class there at a time where it was accessible
lone bone
oh ok
unique pumice
the player spawned in and was immediately sent to Wynn
I would hate this if it was canon tbh
Now that fruma’s an actual province the player having some ties to it would make so much more sense and be way more satisfying imo
signal bough
I think there is at least evidence of the player not having their memories wiped
unique pumice
How so
signal bough
cause memory restoration doesnt work
unique pumice
Oh true
lusty glacier
i think something is unusual with us but i don't think we were randomly spawned on the border and sent to wynn
tepid blade
I think there is at least evidence of the player not having their memories wiped
Well I think that dialogue choice you originally pointed out was supposed to be hyperbole
unique pumice
But tbat could also be because a stronger form of memory suppression was used on us
Since we’re so strong
lusty glacier
But tbat could also be because a stronger form of memory suppression was used on...
maybe since we have affinity to nothingness, our memory connects to nothingness and does not want to have stuff in it from the past again
tepid blade
cause memory restoration doesnt work
And the reason the memory restoration didn't work was because our memories are buried so far down that they couldn't even be reached ||(as stated in Apotheosis)||
unique pumice
Could also include the magic suppression that prevented us from naturally using magic until that one quest
lusty glacier
Could also include the magic suppression that prevented us from naturally using ...
cant we use magic starting level 1 against the zombies?
lusty glacier
And the reason the memory restoration didn't work was because our memories are b...
when was the memory stuff mentioned?
tepid blade
when was the memory stuff mentioned?
In the restoring memories quest, and ||at the end of Apotheosis||
digital swan
what if the player is a bot that helps new recruits exiting Fruma, and after King's Recruit we actually are offline in preparation for the next set of recruits and we're dreaming everything until we get reset and sent off again
so we have no memory since we get cleared every time
unique pumice
cant we use magic starting level 1 against the zombies?
Not without a weapon right
digital swan
and all the other plot issues are a result of our faulty programming and inability to dream well
lusty glacier
In the restoring memories quest, and ||at the end of Apotheosis||
i don't remember the ||last quest|| stuff might check it out
digital swan
and all the other plot issues are a result of our faulty programming and inabili...
in other words, the devs have done nothing wrong
chilly tulip
Do we have a translation for the tablet on the cliff looking out over Ragni?
Or is it a Roseta stone type deal\
signal bough
yeah it comes with its own translation
marble lantern
The player is a blank slate, there’s no real information on their identity back ...
my best guess/headcanon is that we ||were a changeling who like Azel betrayed the Crown but laid low for so long that somehow the knowledge of them being a changeling was lost||
slender copper
my best guess/headcanon is that we ||were a changeling who like Azel betrayed th...
I mean that could be your character canon but that being within lore... eh...
mossy widget
my best guess/headcanon is that we ||were a changeling who like Azel betrayed th...
thats actually a really cool theory im not sure it would be true but
chilly tulip
Any idea what the Sunken Monument discovery says or how to open up the back door of it?
supple pagoda
I got this instead ||for intentionally losing a duel against arnol||
also, who is ||niren||? how relevant is this in the lore?
unique cedar
I got this instead ||for intentionally losing a duel against arnol||
also, who ...
||Don't you have to fight arnol again if you lose to him?||
supple pagoda
||Don't you have to fight arnol again if you lose to him?||
||i never got to fight arnol||, but ||they knew I'm a spy tho||
||I did fought commander ferreo and arnol did the finishing move||
unique cedar
||i never got to fight arnol||, but ||they knew I'm a spy tho||
||I did fought c...
Wait how did that happen?
||don't you always fight him, the sword thing I mean||
supple pagoda
never got a chance to fight him in the first place
||all I did is when that commander setup a fight on me against arnol, I just let myself lose the fight||
supple pagoda
||nope, that commander only asked me to stop showing sympathy to arnol and smth||
||he does hate arnol's house, they had a talk between the commanders to setup a fight between arnol and adder||
unique cedar
||he does hate arnol's house, they had a talk between the commanders to setup a ...
||You can actually fight adder yourself, not sure how to do that though, never got the chance in my playthrough||
supple pagoda
oh well, I've been reading other people's comment of ||adder's duel||, seems difficult to face with, along with me having bad ping 
supple pagoda
||Don't you have to fight arnol again if you lose to him?||
oh about this, ||I didn't swing my attack nor blocked. I just stood and let arnol hit me||
||and I only get to fight him once and that commander ferreo stepped up and intervened||
short bough
Havent finished all of fruma so I'm not sure if my opinion on this will change but: || Sovereign Gikyo was kind of anticlimatic and underdeveloped compared to all the other sovereigns I've seen so far. his only impact was as a device to kill Mora and, shows up for a single boss fight, dies and all of him ends up amounting to nothing really. Kinda wish we had more time with him to make him feel like a threat and a twisted individual.||
dry aspen
Havent finished all of fruma so I'm not sure if my opinion on this will change b...
Yeah, having ||one more quest to really look into him as a character|| would have been neat. Maybe how ||Gikyo deals with being a changeling and having no real form at all is that he chooses his own form or something else along those lines||
short bough
Yeah, having ||one more quest to really look into him as a character|| would hav...
|| I don't even need to know his motivations or like personal struggle as much as I just wanted to see him more involved. Showing more of the depraved stuff he did, or how much more of a believeable threat he was would've gone a long way. I don't think I even remember hearing his name brought up until like the third quest in the region.||
barren phoenix
Havent finished all of fruma so I'm not sure if my opinion on this will change b...
||I could see Gikyo having a larger role whenever the wastelands are added, considering what we know of the region and it's connections with changelings.||
I guess it depends on if ||the wastelands quests come before or after we kill Gikyo||
chilly tulip
Do we know how Silverbull got into Fruma yet?
paper wyvern
Do we know how Silverbull got into Fruma yet?
it isnt silverbull
chilly tulip
Its not?
Station has an SB for its logo
Also they have Silverbull workers there
Security too
gloomy idol
I dont think silverbull is meant to be like a relevant thing in lore
gloomy idol
it's like a suspension of disbelief thing
gloomy idol
they are even in the silent expanse
the player sets up the silverbull camp themselves lol
actually can someone check what this dialogue says for the fruma one
im curious
hasty spoke
So did we make the fruma one?
vestal rivet
did we ever find out how is paying off Croaquin with absinthe?
celest falcon
I don’t think we ever find out but me personally I think it’s an inquisitor
gloomy idol
oh I was looking in the wrong spot
what did it say
formal bridge
Wiki isn't fully updated yet
gloomy idol
So can someone go and check it ingame 🙏
gloomy idol
lmao
hasty spoke
Worth
supple pagoda
I got this instead ||for intentionally losing a duel against arnol||
also, who ...
he joined the resistance 
young sequoia
So did we make the fruma one?
nah
I mean we have workers there too
in SE there isn't since then cant come to SE
I think we gonna need to wait for CT to add lore on fruma foray lrs
hasty spoke
Whelp. back to what I was doing before:
young sequoia
this is what ticket collectors said when we go to west fruma foray
supple pagoda
sui kinda reminded me of twain
rich blaze
in the sense that they're both op water based manaweaver?
otherwise sui and theorick dont have any similarities tbf
frozen turtle
sui kinda reminded me of twain
the twain were just people (who weren't related) gathered who can use magic without weapons/doesn't need to use spells and such. so yea if Sui was in wynn around that time she'd probably would've been adopted to become a twain
assuming her parents died
supple pagoda
||she did kill a sovereign||
-# well, that player did most of the work 
getting close to her going cuckoo balls with that ice magic
sturdy mural
question about something i forgot in the dialogue in the latter end of overture to despair: ||who exactly is it that tasim is upset we killed||
is it ||aledar||? seems like a big time gap
slender copper
is it ||aledar||? seems like a big time gap
||Nope, it's Aledar||
sturdy mural
||Nope, it's Aledar||
ok ty
frozen turtle
it also isnt that big of a time gap
tasim just found out and its been like less then 16 levels
sturdy mural
idk i guess i conflated the time because its been like a year since i did the first part
slender copper
ok ty
||A huge hint to it being Aledar is that the required quests for the first quest in Fruma IS a journey further. And also, when interacting with Tasim and the npcs in the beginning of the Queen's Recruit quest mention Aledar.||
cedar kernel
this is what ticket collectors said when we go to west fruma foray
it would be really funny if the entirety of fruma lootruns are some hallucination by the player that they are getting loot
shut mist
question about something i forgot in the dialogue in the latter end of overture ...
it is. but in game its only been like a few days at most
hybrid gazelle
is it ||aledar||? seems like a big time gap
It rI ally not big timr gap lol
Brcause Tasim suppose to come to Wynn befause Aledar invited him to SE expendition
So it literally could be week after AJb quest
sturdy mural
thank you all for the answers
frozen turtle
fruma and silent expanse lootruns are just hallucinations yeah
silverbull is secretly a hallucinogens testing company and they give the player the drug making them believe they lootrunned and the rewards is just the payment for testing it
cedar kernel
same for raiding
do you think we really would just go into the void holes to kill a dernic creature
left warren
Brcause Tasim suppose to come to Wynn befause Aledar invited him to SE expenditi...
this reminds me of an interesting question, so the plan on that quest was to kill the fourth... and Aledar invited Elphaba, Lucio, and Tasim... but player showed up before Tasim
so who was the sacrifice
hybrid gazelle
this reminds me of an interesting question, so the plan on that quest was to kil...
Nope thst get rewrite
They never plan to kill the fourth
left warren
oh wait what do I have to do the quests again?
guess I do so I get the updated story
hybrid gazelle
Only beginning of ajb and end of ajb get rewrite
It not massive rework but I just dialogue get change
frozen turtle
u can just read the wiki
hollow tartan
so like how do i open this
shut mist
you dont
frozen turtle
u can't yet
cedar kernel
i found a way to open the door!!!!!!!1!1!!11!! ||lies||
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hybrid gazelle
Tbh I still have doubt about secrect discovery for each region ting
Feel like a lot of work
cedar kernel
wym
as in ultimate?
yeah ultimate discovery could just be one for all of frooooooma
hybrid gazelle
Yeah but there theory gojng on that there is ultimate discovery for each region
actually
Knowing wasteland is not out yet thetr for it’s likely the door would not open for a long while until next year
It could be possible
snow kiln
do you think we really would just go into the void holes to kill a dernic creatu...
player would totally do that
split night
as in ultimate?
i think it work like that one tower in wynn that you can only enter when you do all of the secret discovery in the wynn province
hybrid gazelle
Oh yeah that could work