#📚lore_discussion
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and all the void fast travels are also rope elevators
so like it seems common practice
it just seems insane in practice
i hope she becomes an water elemental to round up her character arc and gets egodeath'd for it (read she overloads as a natural manaweaver and gets consumed as a price for winning a big fight she shouldnt be able to) in part 2
I will cry is sue disappears cant handle npc dying moc fights with Syndra I was waiting for the health bar to stop going down
well she wont die. or she will... and we can use the resonance weaver to try and help her out of it
but it could be a great moment
😭
actually i have two suggestions for the ending of wynncraft
I thought Sui was keeping to her self because she was a informent but after seing the waterbending was owwww ok
Maybe there'll be more of her in the future
"Every dream come to an end... even dreams that no longer need their dreamer can escape this fate.... well. Lets finish this... Tell me who I am... who you are..." - Saphanis idk
"Then, the player woke up in their bed in the small town of Fruma. It was all a dream. The time was 7 o'clock, and Player headed to school together with their bestest friends Ava, Lari, Tasim, and Aledar. 'Ugh', player said on their way to school, 'We've got Mr. Orphion again!? But we just had our chemistry test last week!' The end."
A wynncraft player's worse nightmare, school.
time for a high school dating sim with wynncraft characters- in minecraft
literally aot ending
i think that wynncraft should end with "first we wynn, then we craft"
I just read aledar grave 1st interaction and it says "119 IA", wtf?? Aint we in 120 and he died in 120.. ? Or is that not how the grave inscription works?
Impossible.. we MUST be in the same year 😂
timeline:
Aledar captured along with Tasim. sent to Wynn
leaves carve tombstone and have funeral
Aledar dies
player arrives in Fruma
Ah ok
also don't they say it's 121
Nope
Hey, I was told there are multiple special interaction after finishing Fruma and WTP but I only found one, can someone tell me the others?
||Gale after house divided, tasim at aledar's grave after wtp, there's also a door at the palace but thats wip||
Basically only 1 post raid interaction
who tf is ||Gale|| is it not the Qira air boss
WHAT
You are telling me Gale, THE Gale, from Qira Hive is from the House of Nasin from Fruma?
Holy shit I am missing so much lore
ya
This was lore before fruma (the last name)
The surprise for me was in queen's recruit
The Crest of the Highlands is a Legendary Utility Trinket obtainable during the annual Festival of the Blizzard. Since 2021, it can be received as a gift from Gale after inviting her to the Festival in Detlas, alongside Orja. The Crest cannot be sold on the Trade Market, but can be traded with other players during and after the event.
The Crest ...
Wait btw where can we talk to her after House Divided
the seeds were planted long ago
Ye
Kinda nothing burger interaction tho
i think just at the hive
I ask where mf says ye 😭
ok ok ty
idk where in the hive tho
Is there any other interaction/secrets? I love Wynncraft lore but I'm really blind to stuff in game
Same place as in blizzard fest
There’s the mythic shrines but you need ascendency/whatever that one’s called or resolution to see a cutscene
Architect
wat
ye I found one
There's another in roughworks mountains that also plays a cutscene with architect mythic in ur inv
Fruma seems to add so much to the lore it's insane
Is there a full lore document somewhere or smth
Dont think
There's document on ||old fruman language tho, #1489836179665981621 ||
Basically old fruma history
Key Backgrounds (where the lore is significant): Important to the Wynn Province & the Silent Expanse Important to the Gavel Province Important for Corkus Island and the Ocean Important to the Fruma Province Important for the overarching War of the Realms No color: Neat trivia with little signific...
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Spoils like 95% of fruma but this has pretty much all of the relevant lore
Before I read it, I'll give my current understanding of the events
Why isnt it on the wiki smh
Too much stuff and procrastination on my end
Of what I understand, Fruma was the first place with human, then they created colonies that are now the Wynn province's cities, but then they saw the desert ruler using magic and stuff, and that's when magic made its way in their live but it started to become chaos and that's when the Queen arrived?
Last part might be propaganda lol
Also i dont think desert made them use magic, the serpent god just showed them before
From what I've heard from the SD House Divided ||I'm glad Majin's dead.||
if tasim went on the lutho mission would he have been the sacrifice
Wait serpent god? Isn't that the one from Ahmsord? in the secret discovery and also quetz desc
Not the dragon
Read #1489836179665981621 translation of buried records SD
So there is a serpent god in Fruma?
There are several gods ye (were)
what happened to them?
damn she that strong? how tf did we beat her
4 of us
Player is stronger 🤯
We out numbered her
Also not alone (others are noobs tho frfr)
Also plot armor
||Anathema had a contract with Salted to keep us alive so that we can buy him another yacht. ||
there is the ||recruiter that was banished|| from the quest the Strong Survive in ||Ragni||
OMG YES HE IS HERE
Bro Wynncraft world interactions and overrall lore is so cool
I wonder, is there any found link between Old Fruma and Olms? Like did they know of each other or did they interact?
lmao that dude is old
Oh I tought they were literally talking about astronomers xD
Also they had a little war when the colonization 1st started
I tought they just used too much time magic and made the area unstable?
cosmic lore
I mean some stuff is just not confirmed straight up
that could be intentional for all we know
Sign in Déjà vu saying “cosmic event inbound, all olm evacuate” or smth along those lines
Sign 😭 🙏
Are there even any signs in fruma
Like ts is the oldest lore telling piece
Hotel
Honestly I feel like 2 underrated Wynncraft possible expantion is the cosmos and the ocean
Like for space we got the ??? quest, the cow ppl, wybels, the moon etc, and the ocean there is this big lore about how it was extremely agitated before the mage calmed it etc I feel like an ocean expansion would be super cool
what does he say
He forgor
The guy doesn't remember anything like other recruits, and overral think he'll become the next bob or smth
Yeah but I'm not just talking about a rework, I wanna see a full expantion like Gavel/Corkus/SE/Fruma that goes deep into ocean lore
water gloo gloo
Man I'm reading this Wynncraft Timeline doc and it's very interesting
Like the Colossi it's true we don't know much about them
And it's also strange how both Gavel ancient civilization and Frumans were using Runes
Like who created the runes
Have you seen the old gavel ancient civilization theory?
no?
one hard thing they could do is leftovers of the previous realm war clash
The Frumans created the runes to my knowledge, because the runes are in the Old Fruman language
Yeah but Runes also are used by the old gavel civilization way before they traversed the ocean
Realm of War when
https://forums.wynncraft.com/threads/a-gavellian-history-theory.313184/
This one, is very interesting with theories about gavel and the ocean. It could actually fit with some of the new stuff too
The old civilization could have traveled the oceans long before the other Gavel people had
Honestly imagine Realm of War is an extraction game where you have to manage a corruption bar and avoid wandering Annies, gather loot and come back to the portal 
It was told to be way too agitated before to be used
It's possible the ocean wasn't always so crazy
nah i mean chances are with the positions of both portals of the realms when they fought they fought where the ocean is. so us finding leftovers could be hype
important lore tidbit right here
And there's a 0,03% chance to get 16 le from it and that's the best reward
True, I actually wonder why the nether portal isn't in the middle of the ocean
dont ruin my idea
Fix this gamebreaking grammatical error
nah you fish anathemas reincarnated form out of it and you raise it to become a morally upright eldritch horror which protects the physical plane
the corruption becoming the salvation of everyone could be a peak storyline
Surely it's because the nether portal is older than the gavel update
Or maybe Anathemas doesn't like to get wet
And the Wynn province would be even more boring
I mean it's not boring now
But would be without the source of corruption next to it's capital
No its not an error my character really said that
paying a stack for having to piss 15 seconds 🥀
ok that HAVE to be a mistake
Azael is a changeling???
not a mistake
yup
Biggest reveal of the century for me
I'm trying to find them legit
azael lore is super obvious 😭
the canopy has a DEAD obvious secret disco
like even ifound it without help
Didn't spend much time in it tbh
everyone in hyloch is just that rich that this fine is basically 5 bucks to them
But like fr Azael is a changeling? why tf did he not tell us or used his power to help this mf
||light and shadow|| and ||the first wicker's spark of whatever the name|| secret discoveries reveals that
maybe he is insecure idk. it could also hurt public perception
thats prolly it
yea that was SUPER convoluted btw
it was one of the most annoying things to do
I did the wicker man sd but I just tought Azael was like "woah we not sure he a changeling so we have to stop them from making too quick of a jugement"
a well the other one really reveals it
you guys think gikyo's clothes are part of their body?
The text after the discovery litterally tells you azael is a changeling
I might be blind then
But holy that is a big hit to me
its prolly a big secret cuz it would sour everyones perception of the canopy if it came out
Also I'm still reading the wynncraft timeline doc, and uh is it me or were there Skyraiders in Gavel BEFORE wynn and Gavel made contact??? I tought gavel didn't had humans before
their cape werent there during the ||first wicker spark|| sd, maybe they just made it but who knows lol
like the general reception to changelings is already so hostile. the canopys rep would tank and the clans could activeley work with the crown to get rid of them (an exaggeration but yknow)
Man, the new lore is a combination of sour realizations, cool moments, and sad realities 💀.
i wish we got more info on the canopy strenght wise
Honestly before playing Fruma I got spoiled cuz someone showed me Anathema moth form, and I really tought it was like the Parasite after it got outof his cocoon (new headcannon for me it seem cool asf)
it is shown what happens to the changeling that is captured by the canopy?
cause they are effectivly the standing rebellion militia
yes
prolly the strongest resistance group by a wide margin
burned at the stake
no i mean during the quest
I'm just gonna draw the cool moments to avoid being sick lol.
not the old one
nah
also is aldwell NOT controleld by the crown?
Like idk I imagine the Parasite being "infected" by the Light, becoming a mix of Light and Dark so War, and making a cocoon to emerge as a beautiful Moth flying to make its nest in Fruma
it appears to be the case considering that htey said everyone evacuated the mistwoods
the queen does
It is not
They hate the crown
aldwell doesnt exists to the public i think, the crown just say that mistwoods doesnt have people
no idea. gikyo is apparentley a hands-off person who doesnt do much of anything personally... my headcanon is the mistwoods culture in general is a leftover from pre-fruma
gikyo appears to onlyr eally controll the fort
so essentially fruma is not a united province and the canopy basically controlls the mistwoods
which woudl explain their vast strength
there is a book in the aelumia university that says a little about Mistwoods and its full of lies
It’s not, no one lives in the Mistwoods according to the crown
controlling is too much imo
yo no one talking about my sick theory 🥀
the actually controlling people would be the clans
The canopy doesn't it's spread among crown patrols and multiple clans
but the clans are anti crown?
dunno
oh i see i made a msitake
Cause it was wrong
i said the canopy controls all of the mistwoods
that is a mistake
i mean that the canopy controlls so me of it
im just saying how it could have been right and how cool it would have been
Most are, at least one works for the crown as mercenaries
no, not all, some are neutral or atleast were
i love hearing resounding yesses and resounding nos
being a wynncraft fan means not reading quest dialogue
idk it feels cool to me that there is at least 1 reigion that has sucsessfully thwarted the crown
Each clans are their own things, so each have a different relationship to the crown
we are nearing dangerous illiterate levels
also i struggle to believe that the mistwood culture is based off of pnw
its more of a fancy headcanon
to me the lore and culture behind the mistwoods feels strongly reminicent of either pre colonial brazil or pre colonial south india
With extra witch burnings™️
its feels so primal and my sight of the pre-fruma people are basically people worshipping the big elemental gods
i wouldnt say primal
eh maybe not
theyve learend to live with the land and have thwarted a god quite well
also the entozoons are a NIGHTMARE
Btw when did Bak'al made the switch from War Scion to Dark Scion?
bro did you PLAY the game
Also they don’t worship the old gods in the canopy to my knowledge, but they do have some cultural memory of them as seen through masks
I have dementia
Sometime between 200 ap and 886 ap
nightmarish headcanon, the entozoons behave like grootslangs and have burrowed beneath all of fruma... expect there only ever was one entozoon. we are only seeing the peak of a limb. each entozoon is bareley a bodyhair to the full body
That's a long period...
athe owl fox and deer clans are THE main clans of the msitwoods
and they make up the resistance
"the job of a jjk fan isnt to read the manga, its to push agenda"
majin implies he has seen bakal, and majin became sovereign 150 years ago, so he probably didnt switch sides before that window
tbh thats a pretty big time gap and bak'al relationship is mostly hidden dialogues and secret discoveries
my agenda is that autosmord is the todd howard of wynncraft (the big meme figurehead). he doesnt do anything else worthwhile
anyways i feel like the player is much much MUCH older than what people think from the lroe ive seen
also much more deranged
after digging more and more i feel like the player is some sort of vessel or scion of some form of influence
More seriously I really don't remember when it happened? Like Bak'al was revived by Anathema so he was a War Scion, then he had his quest of revenge against Wynn, but next time we hear of him he's the Scion of Saphanis and is tasked to place the Eye at the top of EO
So like what happened what did I miss
I personally believe that Bak'al got his ass kicked so hard by Bob he decided the switch to the dark side
he betrayed anathema
He wasent revived
Ok but also amnesia
when why how
Bak'al never died?
ANSWER ME MF
Queen and bakal had different goals
It says he was a mortally wounded soldier
He was about to die, but was still alive when he was saved
Yeah by revived I meant like she healed him
fahh
oh stfu
but that isn't revived means? healed is a better word
But like here it clearly says he was Anathema's scion
Yeah, he was
yes sorry english isn't my first language I learned all from yt and video games
yeah so when did he betray anathema?
Hes war’s lost scion
Your good
cuz the other guy is gatekeeping
i answered this above
Different goals most likely, one wanted war eternal, but Anathema wanted to rule of fruma
some of this missing context is info that just isnt in game yet btw. it's something to speculate on
not sure the time, but one of her dialogues she says how much she hates him (alot)
For betraying her*
holy how much anathema dialogue did I miss??? I did talk to her after finishing wtp
Branching tree
write the lore that bak'al is attracted to big moths
she has alot of extra dialogues like ALOT
Of options
there are like 500 branching paths
Multiple dialogue trees with different endings
||one option gets you killed too||
fr?
theres also a dialogue where you propose to her
Yes
||you ask for power and its too much and you die||
I personally think that Bak'al left Anathema long before joining the dark, and he only joined the dark after his battle against Bob
||you basically try to become bak al by taking her blessing without a filter ...||
she accepts it and eats you (classic realm of war dating) you then die and forfeit your rewards of the raid
Doesent end very well
Anyone know somewhere with all dialogues cuz he wiki is missing the link 🥀
oh ye like praying mantis they eat the male (some spiders too)
|| https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FeIyKgKSvTZc9R2xyJXjibaLKravjEqveKG5sB87iG8/edit?tab=t.alvsxncshd7w || i found this one
Note: Underlined text is shaking Ahahahahaha… so… you would chase me even here… to extinguish the spark. So long… I spent searching for a way to break free… from the crimson skies… the sulphurous air… Was it fate? For me to die here… atop the Crown of this monument… to my failures? Bleached ...
She doesn't eat you, you try to take her power but you just explode because your body just can't handle it
i meant it more she has no concept of romance (prolly canon) and so she just gives in to her instincts. cue death
ty
im spreading misinformation about what happens when you propose to her unprompted in post-raid
I'm shocked Majin or someone else didn't try before us
they may have honestley
cue being eaten or smth idk
the i can fix her mentality is going strong when seeing her
ok what shock me is that Ocean were calmed in 900 AP, and I'm pretty sure it was near impossible to traverse them before, yet firstly runes were already everywhere so how, and secondly Skyraiders were already in Gavel, are they not humans??
i mean skyraiders use the sky
out of my knowledgment but i guess, airships?
corkians already made a balloon in 850 ap
gavel species 💀 💀 💀
I feel like if they used airship there wouldn't be so much stuff about how impossible it was to travel the ocean
Like the villagers waited for it to calm before traversing it
Can't they fly using their big aaah nose as a ballooon
yeah but Frumans were like big W in term of tech idk
as for the runes theyre the building blocks of magic it seems, so theyd just be a constant in the universe no matter where you are, but there are some tiny signs that the ancient gavellians may have comunicated with the olm or humans with magic (plains defender exisitng in both gavel and wynn)
Like in my mind they barely managed to get to Corkus in the balloon and crashed there
i will be real though the skyraiders dont make much sense anyway
Like it's not uncommon to see ocean's rage linked with sky trouble like cyclones etc
oh
they lowk baddies tho so idc
skyraiders are gonna get modified to fit lore
...eventually
ooo
they're not meant to be humans- or atleast, not entirely humans. i imagine them as something of a mix of all the gavellian peoples who've basically fled their circumstances and banded together in the sky islands
look human enough to me 😏
human-villager interbreeding?
Dramele??? But he's the goofy wizard near THESEAD??? TF does a guild in the depth of Trom's Jungle gotta do with a Gavel Wizard?
also did we find Sohso in fruma yet
nope, but he may be the guy mentioned in a cabinet in Fort Hegea... I think?
ooo
tisaun & gng went to cinfras
not that far from cotl
wow they really traveled far
is tisaun grave the one in guild hall? (gosh only now i read the print up here, i'm dumb my bad, ofc is his)
i dont recall
Also I'm wondering since there is orphion with realm of light, saphanis with realm of darkness, and anathema with realm of war, does the realm of physicality (the wynn world) have a god representing it? maybe the creator of changelings since its said they are made from the spark of primordial life
maybe
our place isnt really a realm
but a plane
It's called Realm of Physicality no?
is it?
I think?
I mean the Realm of Light also have a "physical" plane where we go to unlock NoL
And we go in the Realm of War to do WTP
So for me what it look like is just our Realm is abandonned by its god or maybe he's just asleep or smth so orphion and saphanis are using it as a battleground
if the world of wynncraft is one of these realms like dern or rol, and therefore belonging in the plane of influence shown at the top,
then what's the green plane at the bottom supposed to represent
Well mr tree over here maybe isn't omniscient and is just talking from what he can see
😭
from his point of view those 3 realm are from "outside" connecting to wynn through portals, but maybe we are also part of it
Like Two represent it as a square, with rol + dern and realm of war + wynn both being opposite corner
it's just different point of view due to different knowledge
would honestly make sense
he also bought into the propaganda (or lack thereof) of orphion being a good guy (or maybe i cant read)
True Orphion is definitely depicted as THE good guy through RoL questline, even tho he shows he'll do what's necessary for good even if it's bad in the moment
But in Fruma we learn he's just like his twin and both are just fighting cuz they hate each other
So my headcannon still stand
orphion could very well be a well-intentioned eldritch horror. this is not agood thing btw, as a good-intentioned eldritch horror is WORSE than a normal eldritch horror because they are activeley focusing on you
this results in things like him thinking the madara plan from naruto is basically morally sound
and he should do it
I mean of what I understand both Orphion and Saphanis hate each other very much, and both think they're doing the "good" thing, although Saphanis is a bit more honest with himself and recognize he's the "bad guy"
or all his good rep comes from him not being able to do anything so the remains of his influence just activeley fight off the dark stuff and nothing else, causing him to gain great rep. now that hes free light forest will likeley become se 2.0
like aside from post-fruma ocean quests (a legitimate possibility btw) us revisiting the light forest which has gone nuclear with light energy (and is spreading) with the elves having their god 'suddenly turning on them' could be great
also this line from the wynncraft fanfic im reading is great "It was odd how mental instability and Wynncraft mixed like a morph user and the berry room."
both just fight for their own cause
ye that's what im saying
they are expanding their domains
Just like Majin
Honestly Majin domain expansion was cool asf one of my favorite bossfight
And his cosmic magic is very interesting
Oh yeah btw!
In the Aelumia university SD, at the top there is a depiction of the solar system but like it's the same as ours
"Somehow my words went directly to her head like someone selling a mythic through shouts." great lines
I would have tought Wynn would have been in totally different galaxy
Also do we know what stuff will be in the Wasteland? Cuz of what I was told it's an extension to Fruma but we're pretty much done with the main quest idk what else there is to do (one more lootrun prob)
"[character] was about as stable as mythic prices after a nerf as [gender] folded in on [gender] knees"
"It was odd how mental instability and Wynncraft mixed like a morph user and the berry room."
this is whats going on inside the players head
Man honestly now that I pretty much finished Fruma I'm even more hyped up for what's next
Let's just hope it's not 7 more years for it
indeed it wont be 7 years
12 years
:(
The Light will cleanse the world of suffering.
If I'm correct, the story isn't quite finished right? There's still a few more story quests?
(surely atleast one person has the ball knowledge for this)
also i would love smth like this to happen
I suck dodging providence
wdyk about calamity lore 
I need the link RIGHT now
tbh i think i forgot most of it ._.
there's still at least 1 more expansion (dern) before the war of realms main storyline will be over
and round 2 with orphion probably idk
yeah it seems like we're heading in that direction too
I would think that there is at least 2 or three expansions that could happen before the end of the story, at least the story about the Realms
wth is this why did dog eat providence???
dogs whole thing is eating essense 😋
yeah but since when has this been in the game?
or is this infernum?
infernum
Infernum
it adds some cutscenes
ah was this a recent change?
you would be disappointed
There's like. 80 or so wynnfics on ao3 so they could find it if they really wanted to
orphions during the nexus of light raid be like (he is activeley restraining his body and the parasite, the parasite is unable to really use the light powers): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5FOkCjCvJQ
where's yuji itadori
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to the powerscalers here, he defeniteley did these light-moves in the video during the raid
I should work on at least a single wynncraft fic, but i have like so many wips and its painful to not work on them. I feel like having to pay child support, except instead of children its fanfictions on the internet
14 fics in the aledar tasim tag ❤️
oh dang so those do exist
yes
Taledar fans are eating good I've read a lot of those they're great
||its canon after all, at least one-sided||
yep. aledar only wanted tasim for his soul (sacrifice)
Peak
Do... do you not know that they changed the dialog? In AJB and the end of AJF to be exact.
wasnt there a brother of yahya that went to fruma
Yes
But he is in the wasteland
So we did not get to see him
where is that said
Fort hegea
oh?
Read the file in the cabinet
I see
someone did say they did. ill check that at some point, tho i like the old dialogue better
lol
also i love the player having no support network whatsoever
yeah purely canon player is almost lone wolf
the 4 purely canon players raiding together (they are all paladin so effectively alone(
its cooler when canonically we just solo everything
hilariously ingame we are soloing fruma (even if narrativeley we really dont)
lore vs gameplay
honestly your average wtp party you are effectively alone
you scaley? ill delete this if its insulting
so i think its gameplay too
Truly
Actually no I think I have good experience with most of wtp pfinder so far
scaley would imply i have a sona, im just married to a dragon
I've played with players that survived till the end
i meant scaley in you are attracted to reptiles
my build has under 10k hp
no im attracted to my wife singular
my build is uh
im very loyal to her
melee sharp
yeah its pretty good
My build switch between fallen and Paladin
so far among my three classes ive only died once to a story boss (three times if you wanna include bugs forcing me to /kill)
sharpshooter seems to be very good in it
fallen upperscream is the only thing i play cuz its simple
spring sharpshooter
only 8 more to go
Fruman boss does not really have anything against tanky player lol
But then again the only downside is that it make the fight boring
excessive health
I can kill bomb easily with my ghostly trigger it's funny
i have like 40k dps or smth with my tank build
queen will still mess you up even with high ehp if you arent careful
I really love tbe gauntlet in apotheosis
Definitely the best finale they could have
its bad because it doesn't let me kill tasim
The lack of mid game really fuck over fruma story a bit lol
important story decisions that affect later content in any meaningful way? nah
the lack of a main story fucks over the entirety of the game
i will kill tasim i want him dead
he may still die in part 2
only fruma boss that is really difficult with my build is Tasim
Tasim,,,
im surprised tasim lived. they prolly wanna make us think were in the clear before killing him off
he is not living
I can’t wait for the mid game to cover him more
part 2 of what?
no important character dies in the last part of fruma soneone 100% will in the next bit
they meant dern
isnt fruma set for one more area
I think they mean when the next area of Fruma comes around.
So nothing that relevant to the main on
Oh?
They probably have plan for Tasim
wastelands is a side story
my plan for tasim: his wings, my wall
its prolly getting its own storyline
twos story
which I think will be moreso about the player than anything else
it would be cool if we got more quests like the olmic rune
well two seems incredibly important. if she appears in part 2 it will be a main story thing
Hm... I think it's just going to be like the Fruma timeline. Where in the last few quests it touches on the player's lore.
nah its gonna about pre-fruma.
two has been teasing it
Oh? They're changing up how the quests are organized?
player lore comes after dern
wdym
i meant the civilization anathema wiped out
I'm very confused 
you guys said that part 2 will be a sidestory. i thought two was gonna be in part 2 and she isnt some side story thing like at all.
part 2 of what?
are you talking about the butterfly effect
fruma ig
ye
why didn't you just say that then
where else is it supposed to play out
well i thought fruma part 2 was obvs gonna be about the butterfly effect storyline
like where else geographically
ok but you didn't specify
@rustic nexus this true?
part 2 and butterfly effect is kinda the same in my head
I was just about to ping sone for something ty
yeah you will have to put sui down who has made the sacrifice to turn into a water elemental to win a fight she shouldnt have and you have to put her down cuz she suffered egodeath and is now a rabid beast
tasim also dies
@wynngpt is this true
zeph dies like a chump trying to stop sui
yusanu gets corrupted by the weaver and we put him down
the player also dies. he comes back ofc
zhiraok dies of overtime
the fruman population dies because we got bored and blew them all up
rurie and quill get eaten by entazooms
and two sacrifices herself to get us the key to open the dern portal
this is my ideal update, corpses left and right. we get our objective at the cost of half the cast
soosu also snaps becz of the matter thing
and we have to put her down
why does the player go kill garoth btw
is it just for fun and gear
i mean we had a quest for the old lost sanctum but not for the new one
indeed. we also destroyed many important texts that could have helped people
amazing bro
this is to establish how the player goes about things
we love breaking things
like damagetesting on citizens and destroying infrastructure, heists and warcrimes
hey man SOMEONES gotta show me how fast i can kill 1m health
:D
lootrunning is prolly a crime now that we think bout it
collaborating with criminals to rob banks - twice!
the fort torann massacre everyone makes a big deal about is prolly nothin special
the fruma lootruns are probably morally reprehensible
hey they attacked me first 😠
nuh uh
we just got there and immediately got taken hostage
thats harassment
so obviously we get to diff them in the head back
you are an unlawful immigrant to fruma
and then they immediately start killing me D:<
thats just a minor detail :>
no one caaares about that
where's my lawyer
and a right to a fair trial
i would have cooked da sovereign in court
the rise of quartron quest has us kill innocent guards and blow things up
he was building a big evil robot
except it would be a fruma court so youre just cooked
not really
those guys were plot irrelevant anyways
your honor
also those guys you killed were honest workers
i plead the 69th
nuh uh
theyre illegal
:D
also for souring diplomatic relations in the orc storylines
we made it right :>
better than the dumbahh villagers
not an excuse
There is no court of law in wynn or gavel, because we also destroyed those
the acquiring credentials and the fruma train quest are us acquiring illegal passports
nuh uh
nuh uh
we break and enter countless times
its visiting!!!11
I had a warrant
we just wanna see whats going on!!!
Didn't they try to kill us first?
hey man
court, I plead self defense
yourre the one who came at a chicken with weapons and armor
Its a fucking chicken
Who bob?
💀
we ransacked an abandoned mansion of a respectible person in frost bite
what is this for?
copyright goes away after 70+ years
:D
we did ahc which is several things
not real
we broke into the cinfras library
you sure bout that
all hypotehtical
It is a public library
cuz its never stated not to be real
we were told to do so by god
Yeah, it kind of is, its all hypotheticals
its cause i said so
okay now that is just stupid
to that i say
the goverment makes the laws kid
yeah, so what we took down a vile god
destruction of religiously importantr stuff
its not terrorism we stopped a war!!111!!1!!!
also trason against the crown
fake religion
not really
My Wynn OC hates the divine for a good reason, because all gods we met have either manipulated or tried to kill us
its morally righteous !!11!1!11!!!!
Bros in the wrong spot
L bozo, L queen
tempted to write of softy rule-following player dying a few days into recruitment
L queen
||chat do we think this is his marking showing through or inexplicably portrait-exclusive outfit (since the queen does have a different crown in dialoge fsr) he doesnt have red clothes anywhere and ct have said his marking is on his shoulder but idk||
also we break out of the legal and sanctioned prison in kander forest
It was run by a murderous mad man who tortured a man to death
false imprisonment
we do goverment conspiracy in aldorei
that doesnt matter at all
freedom of speech!!!
doesnt exist
We expose a government conspiracy with their blessing
I feel like this portrait would've shown up even before fruma
what about the actions that lead up to that?
..no?
i dont think
we convincing them to show us
we kill aledar and shatter his soul in first degree murder
oh ok shit theres not another tasim.png
so he just has like
a fuckin
red shoulder? for no reason?
We didn't shatter his soul, and it was assisted suicide
tf
we kill the sanctioned governer of the se
also whenever tasim's mark is brought up I think of this
we did actually
hand pattern on shoulder
god told me to do it
Governor? you mean cosmic horror eye plucked from a eldritch god?
killing a god isn't a crime
its morally just
indeed. the local governing body
it governs nothing
what makes you think that
not a governing body
more like a stalker
we destroy a lot of cultural heritage sites
who illegally watches everyone without their permission
Permitless Archeology
we steal wynnex company property
come and take it beesh
That was probably illegal anyways
real question how long does something have to be dead for it to be archaeolohy instead of graverobbing
who is going to stop me from doing either?
wynnex legally acquired the rights to those crystals
I don't think the Olm signed them over, so technically they stole them
you do various crimes in the feathers fly
you destroy a place of employment in corkus (ff)
I feel like I am talking to the one business man NPC where all of the dialogue options are just variants of no and nu uh
fuck CORKUS
can i be so fr
you steal a mothers unborn children (ozoth)
i think that the player doing slightly evil acts is actually kinda cool
we arent a hero
wdym slightly
well like a perfect hero
The Gerts where being exploited by evil villagers who sought to starve them to death
sometimes we just do unjustifiable crimes
name 1 (please dont)
cuz we cant say no to people
its funny because basically all the fruma lootruns are us killing workers or innocents
well the 2 bank heists
I will not die in the finale of fruma
I will never die
you needed something?
curious as to what are all the themes with hero motif
I noticed that we came to the same conclusion about something
ok so genesis of the end, play the saviour, the world is yours are the obvious ones
there's a micro hero motif in tip the scales, in hero detlas theme
there's 2 in butterfly effect
1 in tasim boss track forgot the title
1 in vigor burns bright
1 in royal toll
might be blanking on another one...
tip the scales???????
hmm I wonder if it's the very fast part then
ye lol
tip the scales my beloved
it's still really good
i Hate raids
=(
wait until dern raid also has 5 challenges, where you fight a boss from the dark, then a boss of the light
(saphanis and orphion, trust trust)
nah you fight them both at the same time in 4th challenge
sobbing
5th challenge is a dungeon style RUN! challenge where the entire realm of dern collapses in on itself
the great race (realm of darkness)
the raid reward room is just outside the portal as the dark's influence begins to calcify over ||like in WTP rewards room||
hey anyone want to hear a theory so insanely fucking stupid that youll want to kill me? hahahaha
||tefris is bobs dad||
here take this button it controls my electric chair
Didnt see that comeing Yuman dule weilding
I... Do. Not. Like.
Why I wanted to share with the rest of the class it lined up to good
YuuY
is arnol ever gonna get a new line for after you beat TWP
I hope so
Anathema: Actively dying
Player: Can I offer you a potion in this trying time?
hey wait a minute... we were given hints about the dating system in Fruma since the ARG. All of the royal reports have IA 120 written on them, the current date. The only exception to this rule is a report written in IA 25, which has something to do with electromagic and Corkus
Do you know who changed the Balloon Man text? That was a hilarious surprise
Also, the ridiculous screaming tops it off so well
IA 25 would have been 905 AP, 5 years after Fruma began its recruitment program and the oceans became traversable
emeralds emeralds
the below text is just telling the person who read it to go check the last report
IA-25
The only fruman dating system I care about is the one that let's me cour- gets shot
waiiiit i didnt even notice dis
but the text refer the reader to look back at the report IA-25-2126
trashie youre just repeating what bencrab said
if i were to assume anything, IA-25.-2156 was probably when Fruma learned about Corkus's existence due to actually being able to travel there
"electyromagic advancementsd may be of interest to sov. s" i think she has more important matters at hand
perhaps]
a bit fry after thinking about AJB/AJF
someone certainly thought of this before me but i cant find any other mention of this
Resoance do be weaving
My eyes kinda glaze over when numbers are involved ngl
Hard to focus
I am been thinking
since the tech that Soosu invent herself is more like our irl electricity
the humble yusanu soosu player :
||ik bak'al is enraged when he finds out the fucking player and their friends have the resonance weaver||
||he might not be||
||but it must be weird||
can we please meet Soosu in corkus please
he probably have some vile shit in the back pocket to say
KILL BAk'AL
You won't see soosu ever again
truth nuke
||Tbh I dont think Bak'al would give a shit that much about resoance weaver but probably will try to take it back for his own benefit||
||i just think he'd be like damn. thats mine gimme||
||the idea of Bak'al beefing with Yasanu out of all people 😭||
||JUST A GUY||
has anyone made the Queen of Frumorph yet
Anathemorph
yes
someone did in #your_work
how do you think Sui distracted herself from the horrible thoughts that would pop up whenever she stopped moving, between getting to Hyloch and rescuing Rex and Zeph?
The skeleton at the very back of wash away secret discovery don't have dialog? It has green particle around it
this guy going to make a painting after some time?
||Bring it a candle||
Even after she supposedly makes smth its still just empty canvas 😭
Ye
I also thought about how the random number after it.. is just a random number sadly (maybe ordinel but i dont think)
khm, pardon
||Idea: draw a skin Anath||
did they add the option to tell tasim yet
no
itll be in patch notes
damn,,
Six?
@exotic yew
^
Hey after six’s recent player model escapades it might just be a thing that could happen 
wat
ngl in Solidarity of Steel, you have the option to joke about Syndra killing you after interrupting her and Quill, although you did call the group traitors before
Its really funny, especially when Rex is sarcastic over the tragedy
its the voidquartz propulsor!!!
how did ts make it from ahmsord to fruma
does the chair on schizo island actually do something or is it just threre
Wait there's a chair.. ?
yea
Can u screenshot it rq?
Wtf i dont remember it
it was added on fruma release
No way 🙀
dont have the necklace tho, maybe that would trigger the cutscene
probably not
no idea
The QR codes are still there afaik
Are they making the terrain uglier? 🔥
also when did they change potato island
I find it funny taht even though the identifier in aelumia citidal isn't the same guy we met throughout the game, she still have a couple of potatoes near a bench next to her
like it's a job requirement to love potato in order for you to be an Identifier
my headcanon is that in order to be able to identify items, one must first be able to differentiate the different levels of quality in potatoes
/j
are there any interactions after beating wartorn palace?
||go to the Auburn resistance place and by the house there is a cemetery. Tasim will be there||
what about other characters? are they there too?
It's yet to be added by CT
why yes my allies just fucked off after i save the world
there is an interaction with Kaio during the introduction to Leave in the Wind's base, the grave is for ||Aledar||
they have not implement the epliogue yet
Dissociation is a concept which concerns a wide array of experiences, ranging from a mild emotional detachment from the immediate surroundings, to a more severe disconnection from physical and emotional experiences. The major characteristic of all dissociative phenomena involves a detachment from reality, rather than a false perception of realit...
What is Dern? I've seen it thrown around a lot as the next update
The realm of darkness opposed to the realm of light you visit in Gavel. This realm's portal is beyond the eldritch outlook in the Silent Expanse but you can't do anything with it yet
Why they gave it a name but not rol smh
Nah screw dern let's go somewhere else next expansion
Bloomi!
the thing is that
there is no other expansion beside Dern
Nah surely we got some old destroyed world we can go from some portal no one has seen that isn't dern
Then we can time travel to the past to see that destroyed world before it was destroyed and get more info
No we should go to splormf instead
nah not really
we dont
also the only time travel we have are the one where we cant change anything
so far the story dont really hint those thing existing
If thats a space expansion, i'd prefer that 
i never would have thought to see subway surfers in this game the devs outdid themselves
This is probably ironic but I'd say it's because dern predates the realms as an idea in the lore lol
What kind of candle
As in, where is this specific candle
Alright how about a dream world that gets infected with a nightmare that bleeds into the real world bc there's like a grp of elfs or dragons that are having these nightmares manifested?
On the table in the 1st room u enter
Let's go to one of wynns moons
we dont have something like that no
we did go to Wynn moons
it not
it not that intresting tbh
When?
Oh right where the wybel come from
in recipe for disaster
IDk what Drehmal is
Idk if I can tell you bc I dont know if talking about a free custom map is considered promoting
Im not on the drehmal team I just really like the project
we already have neough sapient in wynn
but so far
I think they want to finish up War of the realm
So what the fox means in the secret discovery wash away?
I kill the queen so the fox should do something different?
That’s a hot take
Fr it is
I thought it was cinema
Good news then two are dragon races with deer horns
Space hater smh
He’s wybelcist
NoGoodGod would be disappointed
Actually 4 races and one is a pig race
Drehmal has space stuff
wow
Seems cool ngl
And the stations got roombas
Is it a modpack?
its an adventure map
Yeah kinda
But in a modpack.. ?
not really
I might check it out 

They made a set up program for it and is has scaling difficulty depending on player count
you're telling me there was an ice dragon
and it didnt just straight up wall the corruption?
Pretty sure they ☠️ long before
it's fucking gavel
and it dead
good thing they can fly
but yeah it being dead is a good explanation
kill all dwarves
Calix have other concern
like
their home getting invaded by bunch of short people
where is 'governments of Gavel' mentioned?
exactly
their fault

