#📚lore_discussion
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Unfortunately selium is no longer trans 😔
OUTDATED PROTRAIT
THE ONE IN UNI IS OUDATED PROTRAIT
THAT BEFORE HER TRANSITION
selium is gale post transition theory. Spirit of gale is them pre-transition
yeah I recall someone saying Selium was a Nasin
begins to question life choices
what do they say when you talk to them
he was greeting me and there were dialogue options
i only asked him how he got here
he said from a wagon into ragni
and i forgot the rest
Also fixed this to be less “head canon is canon” worded for lack of a better term.
It was i who put headcanon(?) in that. I am not sorry because it is fact apologetic for this error.
imma go read the dialogue again
How is it "head canon is canon" when u say "its not confirmed"
Like i was fine with it as how it was tbh
I mean like less “this is set in stone and pure fact” and more “this is implied so take it with a grain of salt”
oh right it says presumably and probably
that should still be enough
better than the gale trivia 
*selium post transition
feeding you to the wooly rhino
here are the options
He alr thinks about getting promotion 🔥
he thought we're a fan of his 😭
some things never change bro
The player is only a fan of the courageous aegis
Im only fan of hubert ❤️🩹 He's our saviour from the ass room
who is that
have you done fruma quests
The recruiter from the strong survive
Tbh i also forgot his name
i forgot his role lmao
the good and fair hubert vs the evil and foul wings caster
Actually gendarme caster
sigh
Gendarme are wings tho
But not all wings are gendarme
Ok?
And gendarme are pretty much exclusive to aelumia while the rest of fruma gets ordinary wings soldiers
Do y’all think be funny to have an amogus type game hosted by the canopy, and the backstabbers have the role of changeling 
this will go horribly wrong
Strong survive literally said they are part of wings
Reread what I said
Honestly i'd take anything instead of bonfire game
It would also be funny, trust 🥰
All squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares
what if we bring effal to fruma
oh you mean that
what even is bonfire game
yeah fair
Speed lvl him 🔥
Hop on zombie tree grinding bro 🗣️
Plain shooter
first stop is probably picard's tower
The orb requires a hubillion xp to function
Man we need a hubert pet
If ppl bought fruma packs 3 times for wings..
Infiltrate the Canopy would be a fire gamemode 
Unfortunately doesn’t work lore wise
Prop hunt
They should make bonfire prop hunt
It alr has shit ton of players per party
hubert was iconic vecauseo f the meme
butg sadly they are so fucking
underwhelming in the actual game
“You mean to tell me there are changelings among us? We need to worry about gik, yo!”
I am so sad
Yo
I like hubert punching the door open
it was cool yeah but too bad that like
I try to view it if I can
The what
The miniboss in ensemble?
yea
I think all kenshi are same
Idk but it had similar stats to the normal kenshi so I don’t think so
yea.. about that..
How far are you in the fruma story
finished
||I mean an arms a bit of a loss but it’s not as bad as it could’ve been||
||she's alive, just not doing so well||
Road to becoming item upgrader 🔥
Wasn’t she already a sharpshooter
Well ye
She wasnt shooting lasers tho
She prolly can but just refuses to
LOST NECKLACE CONTINUITY ERROR, ||the cave with cages got rebuilt to have no cages, the second question still requires you to think that this cave had cages, even though it doesnt anymore||
When did it get rebuilt lol
Fruma also destroyed seaskipper ticket trader dock
😔
I like to imagine that Anathema just sent out nukes and over existing area and delete them
we should bring ||him her arm||
“i found her, here’s proof”
"Its just a prank"
we slap him with her arm “does this jog your memory?”
"NO, AND WHY ARE YOU SLAPPING ME WITH THAT?"
Smh
just her arm
Make it a bow
how you gonna use it as a bow
It should be a dagger
blunt force object, some spears are hammers close enough
🔥
Since we're archers we can keep regenerating them
get this man on ct
Is there like a big Fruma lore thread? The more I progress in Fruma quest the more I'm interested in it especially the whole ||war, the twins etc|| part but I can't find videos on it
it would be cinema
wanting to do new iteration of golems again
there's no videos on it since it's all pretty new
in this take I want them to feel less mechanical
NGL I kinda wanna go more into like
the distrubing flesh golem side of them
compare to in game where they have circuit and stuff
Gavel’s tech level is all over the place
yeah
so I rather focus more on the magic side
to set them apart from Fruma and Corkus
also it just
way more intresting this way
Its unclear to what degree quartz resembles real world tech
They switch up on that a lot
And then you just have shit like the straight up security cameras in FP
yeah
which is shyw i Just disregard those in my new interptation of gavel
and just
going the idea of industrialize magic
where it feel industrialize on the surface but actually magic deep down
tbh its pretty understandable from two's dialogue
Orphion is perfectly morally good
moral good or bad are all relative in a world with no TRUE higher power
He is the higher power. He will save Wynn from itself
I just thinking golems should be more sack of meat
Which then reinforced by armor
Just finished the quest where Two give the explanation btw so maybe I'm just missing stuff from later quest, but of what I understand ||Orphion and the Dern Beast were hating on each other, creating War/the Queen, then they found Wynn, started fighting, and it opened the door for War to also invade Wynn, but while Orphion and Dern Beast just use it as a battleground, War likes Wynn and want to protect it from them.|| Except that doesn't really explain how Fruma is so divided etc, what the player is, why the Queen act like that etc
The Queen is just like that
Then she's REALLY bad at her job damn
kinda
summary :D
I mean and the whole cursed thing, like she could just use them in her army instead of lying to the population and creating rebels who want their loved one to not be kidnapped by the queen
ty
whoever wrote gavel quests shouldnt be allowed near people bro
this is like the 4th quest that involved pushing people off
😭
ok yuge doesn't deserve it but Seluc in canyon guides does
the guard in acquiring credentials doesnt deserve it either
So of what I understand she actually just want to chill but she's too stupid to realise what's she doing
no
I mean she just doesn't give a fuck
Fruma is just her playground
She kinda gives a fuck
About the ppl? Not really
I feel like there was alot of more peaceful way to do thing and not end up getting beaten by 4 kid in morph suit
also the player is SEVERELY underestimated by the sovereigns and queen
they cant really see anything special
Morph! Tonight, we steal Orphion's Sun!
||anathema DID have a realization at the end of wtp tho||
What A Day to Remember
what that realization might be id have no clue
That they have a strong force inside of them 🤯
yes but what tho
technically one kid
the other three are canonically tasim zeph and sui
but even then like,
majin is there during our discussion with Two in Overture
and that mf still things he can beat us
What if they are also in morph 🤯
majins a bum
And what makes you say they aren't wearing morph
Exactly
two are from the broke forest
one of them is from the rich castle
sooooooo
Morph is popular around the highlands canonically btw
TRUE
that is true
It's a fashion trend
I wonder why
Gotta be dripped out to fight the Queen
also majins not a ||realm beast or two||
Oh you didnt know?
well yeah but he hears about us beating the eye and parasite
No way is that 2003_GREGNigel????!
so he cant exactly see past the apparent emptiness
and mf still thinks “yeah i solo”
How are there so many
The great Morph migration
Horizon spawned them in
Is that a ct
hes also a bum
Uh no
its a yt
Ah
The guy who dupes on p2w servers
Did he get like admin perks or smth
Intriguing
and also special perms
just for fun or like, to test for dupes
Did he spawn 1000 arakadikus because the name was funny
Shit devs allow for 30 views
Obsessor dupe is real
Prob editting
That migration lasted 4 hours
"How i trolled wonncraft"
hello lore discussers
This is the video
@exotic bough you were writing the gikyo wiki page right?
The Morphlympics
Hey thats me on the thumbnail!
Thats not his channel
||Light and Shadow's badge has U-i-, so it can't be union||
Its not
oh, but it is a video of the thing
Huh
Its the guy who lead the morphlings home with me
Swore it had 5 chars
I'd expect a video like this
it happened like 2 days ago were you expecting a fully edited video
I didnt know it happened 2 days ago
I’ll trade for their mythics
I miss them
How many ppl even know about ts 🥀
Uh
Everyone who was online that day
There was like a whole video on Obsessors
I was prolly online
A lot, it was posted on the discord in the your works channel
i thikn i queued a raid ON na16
Who tf watches wonncraft on yt 💔
(it was wtp)
Me
me
Salted has been sponsoring alot of youtubers
But those vids are ass
Its just hsb players
That one recent 100 days vid pissed me off so bad
Who most likely won't play like ever
Yeah I didn’t like how most of the vids completely spoiled the fruma storyline
100 days AND THEY ONLY GOT TO ARAKADIKUS???
That's like 30 minutes of gameplay dawg
Bro puts spoilers in the thumbnail he doesn't even understand 😭 🙏
I dont think they care bro
Well i have shouts off
Money
Eh
what is an hsb player exactly?
Like they paid them but do they get that money back?
Like i dont except a single of their viewers to play lol
Or whatever his name is now
Hypixel skyblock
all the hsb youtubers getting thrown into fruma with no idea how to play their builds
ah
hypixel shitblock
worst mmorpg in the world
🤢
Still more players 😂
Ye
yeah the only part that is rpg is the rift
Hsb players when they play an actual good mmorpg:
wait so true
I used to play the server, but eventually got bored as it got way to grindy to progress, I hate grinding
I wanna play that ngl
I played hsb for like a very little
rift is decent
I mean yeah he wouldn't have done it if he didn't
I remember logging on to hsb and screenshotting it then sending it here during fruma maintenance
I quit sometime after dwarves mines dropped as I just realized all the updates are just new ways to grind
Everyone told me to quit
but it’s so stupid with the game gated stuff.
like hmmm yes, we made an actual RPG section in our fake mmorpg, unfortunately you can barely play it
"Quests? boring. i wanna grind mining for 1000 hours 🤑 "
i quit after galatea and the new hub
I mean wynncraft
Tell them to go prof themselves
And also there’s now like a shit ton of scams around every corner
Pys now!!!
I checked in from time to time and I got dms from people wanting to buy exotics
skyblock players spending 3 thousand hours grinding so they can get an item that lets them grind 5% faster
i got to mining 110 in less than 50 hours
Change that last part to get a slightly shittier shade of piss on their armor
during the 3xp
Oh no
ONLY acceptable time to grind profs btw
Surely less than 30
The hsb players are gonna get bored
also them just not supporting stranded at all pmo
i tried to play stranded
i had full gxp set on
True
and they just decided “yeah we aren’t gonna keep updating our skyblock gamemode since no one plays it and it’s too much work”
Rift is very good, i recommend. Only good part of hsb
its very annoying to start tbh
while its more fun
yeah, it’s more fun once you have a decent amount of time to work with
you kinda dont know where everything is and theres no pointers to get you started
the first few entrances suck
and you get 5 minutes 😭
by this btw i mean that no npc indicators are present
Aint hsb already the type game u play with wiki opened?
yeah
you get 5 minutes fuh nah im not switching
also using wiki is blasphemy
i would never
Why are yall still talking about trash
Memorize all the shit before u enter 🤯
An iq too high
I wonder, couldn't u just troll and trade them so they disappear? Or then he'd just spawn more?
Once you get the rift guide it gets a lot easier to figure out what to do (though it took me like 3 hours to find it because the particles were bugged)
I actually discovered Wynncraft for the first time because it was mentioned in a video about hsb
"You login, you bridge over to the portal, and enter wonncraft"
yeah
yes, that one
🫡
but i feel like that’s more credit to techno having a large audience not hsb having a large audience
what's the lore explanation for this
dc'd
now i have to restart a quest
from the start
😭
i was in the middle of cowfusion
No
morph
We were giving them a tour
how'd you get them through the gate
what the fuck is morph
Wait til you see @hushed zinc 's map
What level are you
morphions' morph of ligh
91
I wish you a very morphin christmas
How have you not witnessed morph
I wasnt there
I only joined halfway through at cinfras
But i dont think the entities care if the gate is there
To them it's just air
wtf is morph
Have u seen ppl with diamond helmet, iron chestplate, steel leggings, and gold boots drip?
it’s the armor set you see in the gifs where each piece uses a different armor type
??
whats the funny behind it
uh
Its very op
It’s the lazy man’s build
it’s just memed a lot
The most op set in the game
what is morphgration
Dont worry about that
Migrating [redacted] back to their place
400 skill points total iirc
They nerfed set sp
???
Whats 400 sp?
wtf is soul point
They nerfed sets 🥀
Absolute Morphification
💔
Oh so they did nerf it
What's a soul point
Not the soul points
canary told me
about soul point
Yall are schizo
real
Oh that’s still in the game
Soul points don't exist
Thats crazy
Y'all be hallicinating these made up things
Old death punishment system
Alright, you said too much
“Maybe for the last time…”
you should consider dying on 0 soulpoints
Consider decreasing ur soul points by 2 
Honestly it was fine
no it wasn’t
hell no
I still think the new scroll system is ass
limits your playtime
Just dont die 🤯
new scroll system is great
(my torrential tide got eaten by the soul points monster)
would you like to play with soulpoints in fruma
💀
with hawks that snap your neck in a second
This
I mean i havent died that much
I think techno is the first hsb youtuber to actually play wynncraft, he has 64 hours and a lvl 82 archer
one shot snipers
oh
a freaking lighthouse that obliterates you no matter what
whyd it get removed
Gikyo took like 15 tries to solo
Disable it with party 🤯
He's dining with death rn
Holy skill issue
It removed items from your inventory after you died a lot
your punishment for dying was slowly losing items, meaning your build gets worse and you probably die even more as a result. Or you stop playing so you can regain points
scroll?
has bro not gone ANYWHERE outside of quests
It was on beta with a glassy weathered spellshade build
Scroll charges
timasca has one shotters
it still does that
nah gikyo is rough if you aren’t used to the difficulty
world events also do that
??? like. tp?
I mean i also died
only ingreds now
But like 2 times at max
especially if your zhiraok fights bricked so you don’t get eased into the difficult
The syndra fight was a nightmare
whys it hard
Ik bro was the real culprit behind the morphling invasion
Zhiraok too
Bro hits like a semi truck
Yes
the main quest fruma bosses are generally a big step up from any other bosses up until then
theyre hard
You'll see for yourself
Yes
well not actually that difficult
They hit hard
like maybe at-level bob, but even then the fruma bosses are more like… fair difficulty
theyre pretty easy compared to the WORLD EVENT BOSSES
trick is pretty uh safe for bosses
WHICH HIT EVEN HARDER FOR SOME REASON
the only thign its bad at is hordes
I beat syndra first try, like did some people just not see all the fire in the arena?
trick gikyo is pretty hard, i main nulli trick
Who would win?
Greg or a random beetle in auburn
The fire is the issue in the arena
like these STUPID STACKPEAK EAGLES HIT HARDER THAN THE MFING QUEEN
real
It’s opaque and in a tight space
Greg vs. Wooly Rhino
the fruma bosses are really mobile so noxious is hard to abuse
fak
Whooly rhino solos any day
This but with building marks and doing backstabs
Nah I'm the one who took them sightseeing, brought one from jofash that was a straggler around, I posted my image a few times
Why does a wrench from an overworked worker hit harder than an actual big ass sword from a colossus
can jump them with vanish no?
ehhh
most trick combos need to be fast anyways
Good question
i mean yeah, but they they cook you
vanish > smoke bomb > spam shit
really dense hammer
Are you suggesting that the tcc sword is hollow
“Oh hey world event wonder how to get to-“
Magic? I dont give a fuck
Starts blasting bullets at me
nah it's just the wrench is somehow so dense it manages to match the giant sword
Nah it doesnt match
It surpasses
Dusk
Show them the map
JoeBiden347's Bizarre Adventure
@hushed zinc
😭 🙏
yes but the fruma bosses can actually punish you unlike the original bosses
like if you don’t leave yourself a mirror clone to tank a hit you can just get cooked
everything deals a lot of damage, and most can deal multiple hits which burn through your clones
and atleast gikyo ||sets up a lot of stage hazards to make it really difficult to get close|| so trick and shade struggle
With maxed aspect u should be able to get ur clones back instantly (or i think so), surely u can smash spin and bamboo fast enough 🔥
Its still not fixed? 😭
wait why are humans not allowed in gavel?
even if i had max aspect, how would i mana sustain 😭
There's a mythic called
Uhh
Nirvana
Intelligence mythic
Surely u can sustain with it
This was fun
And like mr tomes
I loved the bear zoo
Wdym trick and shade struggle?
I always have the time of my life fighting gikyo
Does shade not struggle with anything? 💔
yeah bear zoo is neat I dont think I've visited it in years....same with using the tunnel from troms to pigman ravines that is something that has definitely been YEARS since I've used
idk just expect to need to actually play with the fruma bosses, unlike the previous quest bosses where you could just vanish and win
oh no i had a lot of fun with it
the goop is just really punishing for trick and shade
since it eats your clones and makes it hard to get close
Fruma is built for the shadesteppers
“This is YOUR fault for playing fucking shadestepper now I have to add a fucking failsafe for every one of my bosses.” - tealy to that one person playing fucking shadestepper in the now-deleted fruma feedback channel
Fruma is built for tanks
How come
The rest either have their skulls bashed in, a limb cut off, or bullet holes
Fruma is built...yeah that's it someone did build it
There are no walls inside the fruman walls
You vanish and nothing is going to kill you
Biggest complaint I kept seeing was that it was dangerous to get around bc Everything Was Trying To Kill You and I just didn't have that happen
I wonder, is wastelands fully on main server?
Has no1 glitch abused there 🤔
I cant wait to meet oru
yeah majin is kinda easy on the two vanish archetypes
And fucking kill him
Ig i just wasn't doing enough dmg
yeah it's just all there
haven't glitch abused but i flew up the barrier wall with a wyvern and this was the most i could see
on beta when i fought the gikyo i ran out of potions the first two attempts. Mf forced me to get over my skill issue
Have u seen powderman
Zhiraok is fun as hell when you can double jump over him
Whats the lore behind powderman
It was hella fun killing him when he was standing in place on release 🔥
Born of powder ngl
Not what i was expecting tbh
I was expecting a flat desert area with big things popping out
yeah me too but i actually think i like what they're going for here more
the bridges over the big chasms look really cool
"fruma wont be very mountainy"
Fruma:
Mesa 2.0
Rymek 2
yeah and two other ones but i'm not sure if i was supposed to see them ._.
What 2 others?
human enemies
its not mountains its mesas
Is it not only powderman
no there's more
Damn
one has a similar attack to powderman
I didn't even see powderman attack 🥀
We'll get lore right?
Ye
On why its a wasteland
no
Oh
waste lands
Are the sovereigns there stupid?
the answer to both of your questions may be yes sometimes
guessing it'd have something to do with fire or lava because it looks way more like "scorched" or like igneous rock
plus all the destroyed infrastructure
Tell urself
which ones
The only one
Im interested to see on how fhe deraj is gonna look
i mean we kinda already have it.
see the highlands altar creation myth
Uh
Just call it buried records 🥀
that one’s no i’m buried record tho
||I mean taism is, majin is, zhiroak isnt, soosu isnt, two is debatable, gikyo is, and we dont know about oru||
isn’t it one of the altars in highlands
does that say why it's a wasteland?
bro
Bro
No
uhhh it says the nifilis made it and bro is a lava god
so
i assume that’s why
🤯
yeah but buried records also has other stuff in it
Seems like there's a new fashion trend?
Ok?
Why aint they wearing morph smh
Its already out of trend
I mean yeah the darker blocks used fro the area below the plateaus could be igneous rocks fromt he little we can see from the edges
bro where THE FUCK DO I GO for dwarves and doguns part 1
wait
wrong channel
sorry xd
ah nifilis, my beloved
nifilis is defo still alive trust
He's just fat, in the ground, surely
they wouldn't kill my goat like that
All those who were wearing morph went on a world tour
source: dude trust me
nifilis actually ran away 4000 years ago to gavel and became garaheth
i mean my source is that atlashaz is still alive, so like maybe
one god still atleast holds influence
which one is atlashaz
Are they
the fox
The fox
cause the ghostly fox lootrun enemy
I mean washed away fox
i mean i guess, but also could just be like a spectral form or something
trust nifilis will either be alive, or be dead and their corpse is the source of changelings. my source is that i made it to hell up out of circumstancial evidence
but it would be cool

im going with the fox in washed away
wait theres a fox in washed away
Isnt that a person
theres a fox that shows up after leaving the secret discovery
no the fox that shows up outside when you leave
oh i didn't see that
i thought you meant like "The foxes whisper of his injustices. He demolished the ruins of the Old Temple, and constructed the abominable Fort Torann upon its foundations."
oh forgot about that
but also the ghostly fox in the lootrun namedrops atlashaz
Ye
Can't wait to be able to actually explore the ruins of old temple and get the ascendancy shrine interaction
WE all hate fruma lr
so it seemsl ike
most of wasteland already built right?
I think salted mention it before
honestly im 90% sure they build tmost of fruma first and then modified it as needed for quests
that wasteland already build
TBH if my theory were tur
I imagine wasteland got lik2 main quests
and 2 side quests
but yeah I bet if we glitched throuhg the barriers the wastelands would be a landscape
wow amost as much as corkus
the thing that you need to remember is that
wasteland still ar egion
it not its own expansion
it's a region of Fruma
not finished
im betting 3 quests for wastealnds
fair enough
To be fair, the Wastelands is smaller the all of Corkus, so it makes sense for that amount of content
the landscape for the wastelands is proabbly already in the game but I bet some buildings and caves arent ready yet
Askin for too much 🥀
mistwoods has 2 main 2 side
Changeling stuff probably
so that mean the next major update would be something else
My guess the next big update will be the Gavel rework, as it wouldn't make sense for them to do the Dern expansion before reworking RoL
idk i’ve done exactly 1 fruma LR, only got 30 pulls before i got bored because i hate lootrunning, and got a pair of crabs. So i like fruma lootrun
I think CT mention before
that Gavel is too big for them to remake
so having major update revolve around remaking Gavel right after Fruma
sound very not possible
Its prolly midgame rework
Well, at least a rework of RoL before Dern
I think Lexnt mention before if they were to remake quests
AJB/AJf likely getting rework first
so I highly dbout we getting ROL anytime soon
frostbite removal 
makes sense, as they have they have the most need for a rework (dark element bs)
I am more into the idea of next major update probalby dungeon rework
major rework coming with wasteland dungeon would be nice wayto expand the ned game content
but ngl
I also intresting in minor update between major update
I expecintg full on epliogue to release in minor update
I kinda wonder how dungeon rework would even look
Depend on the direction
but consider Dungeon meant to be early game content
simplicity should be piority
I FEEL like they probably giving silverbull dungeon division
because it would be odd to leave that out
I would guess a lot of boss reworks, and removing the invisible parkour in EO
Nuh uh
I think the boss is like the least concerning part about dungeon
they will get remake that ofr sure
Can't u alr skip it with wyvern
but the dungeon itself is
bad
the reward system in dungeon demand a lot of replay
but
Dungeon is so fucking linear
I tried, but it keeps falling because of the limited air time
SO OS SO fucking linear
What limited air time 😭
you likely bored out of your mind before you get acutal reward
The Wyvern kept falling out of the air after some time, and would touch the invisible teleport box
I think it would be cool if dungeons give some exploration
with complicate layout being made as the higher level the dungeon is
like optional hidden bonus content for extra loot?
Huh, mine doesn't do that lol
We makin hsb dungeons 💔
some sort of like that yeah
Hot take I love the invisible puzzle in EO but I wish they did the canary quest option for people who fail more than 10 tries
Feel like that’s the best of both worlds
I have my own issue with EO
but then again I dont think it just particular dungeon fault
but more like SE update as a whole LOL
True
I hate that 90% of it is a boss run
I think having dungeon being exploration space
would be cool
but also still kept it simple
comparing to raid which has more speicifc challenge that force you to work with your team
also it would set more clear difference between dungeon and raid
Dungeons need something to force you to work alone
cause rn there like
does not has that much distinct between the two?
both of them feature you going through mutiple challenges
until you read the boss
in fact, raids are less linear than dungeon
What does that mean 🤔
because at least you get variant of rooms and boons
so I still think dungeon being extremely linear would stay if it ever ogt remake
ike DS being linear is FINE it the first dungeon though I would love for it to have optional route
but as the higher level dungeon go, I kinda expected more
also dungeon being exploration space
would give so much oppurnity to put more lore
like some dungeon desperately need lore sumplementary
like fucking SST man
I enjoyed how infested pit had you working with other NPCs, definitely think making them more of a lore supplement would help
And also I thought the original charon fight was much more fun than how it is now
whats syndras lore why did she leasve elise and why did she quit working for the crown
well the crown did a 'test of loyalty' where she had to kill elise
she didnt take it well
dungeon being an actual dungeon crawl would be cool, although that would get boring pretty quick if it wasn’t randomized each run and idk how feasible that is
like an old zelda or D&D style dungeon crawl, nothing too complicated. Where you have to explore different rooms to find keys to progress until you find the boss and boss key
or just big exploratory space like you mentioned, maybe like Monumentas wool dungeons, although since wynn doesn’t really let you break blocks idk how that would work
and those would get pretty boring on repeat too if you know the route
Why did she leave Elise if she wasn't going to kill her
cuz she was disobeying orders and she really didnt wanna paint (more) of a back on elise's back.
First the crown demand Syndra to Elise as a test of loyalty
Syndra back then did not know but she do notw ant to arrest her lover
so she disobey the order
which then lead to the crown send inquistor to bring her back to the palace t obe strip off her rank
and send off to Auburn Forest
I see
||Is this area between the Ragni Outskirts and Royal Gate used for anything, or is it inaccessible?||
||For reference, here’s what that place used to look like. The fact that it changed makes me think it’s used for something besides the one corner used in A Journey Home.||
Yep
That happens
Ok so I just finished the "cutscene" where Two show you the result of Light or Dark winning the war, but I'm not sure I understand if the Queen/War want to balance the scale, so none of them actually do considerable damage to this world, destroy them so the war end, or replace them and just be her own bad ending instead of one of those 2
from what i gather, queen is basically some sort of buffer that stops the scales from tipping to one side too fast, and she was working on the resonance weaver to stop their influence, she was happy with fruma
I mean I'm at the step of the quest where I'm at the table in front of the Queen's throne and like of what I understand they recruited Tasim to help fight the Dark up to in his own lair so they seem to be a bit more active than just balancing the scales that's what's confusing me
rn the scales are heavily in favor of darkness
the parasite and decay and whatnot
ye but going up to in his realm idk
so if someone were to strive for balance, currently theyd help light and fight darkness aka us
yea even if we get to the point where we can kill one of them, i dont think we will
since both are amoral
True
Im just imagining a raid where you fight both at the same time
And if one dies you have 1m to kill the other or else raid wipe
honestly yea could go hard
maybe we try to weaken both so that we use the resonance weaver to sever their connection
if they strived for more difficulty, maybe % difference in health buffs the other one, so like if orphion has 5% less health, saphanist gets buffed by a percentage which increases with health difference or whatever
Imagine that one new player lol
Hard focusing one of them
The other boss wipes the raid due to insane scaling
i feel like it would make sense but also make it harder, alas thats more gameplay less lore so idk how much we should talk about it
doesnt she say itll take a very long time?
and since campaign is like over a single year, im not sure if we will see her, if we can expect to go to dern soon
i mean would she have her memories? since she isnt entirely war like how the other two embody their realm
With no way to open
No but
Still
If she comes back
I feel like she will know
Whats going on
im not too sure about what sort of return she will have
True
maybe next anathema will be a war loving beast
and make the corruption spread worse
Perhaps but
Like she said before
We must treat it with kindness
If we do
It might help getting her back on our side
why do wynn and gavel not treat the player the same way as fruma does after fort torann
like the player has at the very least killed thousands in wynna nd gavel i think
is it cuz the corruption in wynn and decay in gavel have caused so many deaths that the deaths that the player caused are insignificant in comparison
and tthe deaths are only notable in fruma cuz they dont have a corruption/decay equivalent
cuz the player forced their way into the provinces against the governments will
Wynn has nothing but zombies and monsters, with the only notable humans being bandits and evil-doers rn. Gavel is similar
in wynn they only kill the corrupt and turncoat soldiers
hm ok
in fruma they kill actual soldiers and even some heads of government
We’ve killed a bunch of random species, but their influence in gavel is sparse
Fruma is the only notable scenario where we’ve just straight up murdered a town
hmm i see
is it canon now that multiple classes are in fruma at once?????????/
the class character logs arent canon
they follow the 5 class characters as though theyre all playing through the game at once
I mean the orcs are pretty pissed at us after all the stuff we pull
it's similar in fruma, where they also are trying to ensure people are as scared of cursed ones as people
to be fair. Wynn we don’t really kill like.. soldiers. It’s mostly corrupteds, animals and bandits
gavel we also don’t really kill any of the civilized species except orcs which resolves at the end of all roads lead to peace and dwarves/doguns in… dwarves and doguns
Oopsie someone was hacksies
More or less putting them to rest
We never learn anything from Lari about treasuring life so, it's the only thing we know that can effectively deal with a problem
The Missing Piece actually made me shed tears. Wonderful work.
It’s kinda lost in the beta channel now and I can’t remember if you were in that same conversation but the NPCs being added outside the Hive division doors sparked my previously conceptualized idea of having the five class mascots being an actual canonical group of adventurers that you stumble into along your travels and can actually meaningfully interact with and vice versa
Basically Afelis but they actually have a stake in game mechanics when they’re present (I’m kidding I don’t actually know anything about Afelis)
rip whoever got crushed by genesis revorse
But lore-wise it’ll basically canonize almost all the music logs except the fact that they didn’t do the player quests
I’ve had ideas of them also being like, a hidden ghost- tutorial of sorts that works for new players by being NPC stand-ins for players (or the NPC version of guides I mean)
Stuff like them appearing at World Events (keeping in mind like, region level requirements since they’ll level up with the player’s progress) and if you aren’t in a party you can accept a request to join theirs as a sort of mild aid in earlygame world events
Or smaller stuff like meeting them doing random stuff in towns and if you enter the town with really low health the Mage gets concerned and offers to heal you
Probably won’t work as well in practice if it was actually in-game though but I like the inspiration that they’ve generated in me
I’m considering actually making a decent-sized forum post suggestion for them
If I have time to make one, the class mascot NPCs will be the one I’m doing first
i think i'd rather just do that sort of thing with regular npcs truthfully
But I’ll have to un-wackify my ideas first
I think it kinda started with the first Espren trailer actually
When I saw the graffiti at the end with the Warrior I got excited because I thought that the class guys were going to be actual characters in the Fruma story as a reveal that they weren’t just mascots for the server itself
As like, side characters in the resistance or smth
Rip to that idea but the thought stayed in my mind until now
I like to think that the character is so shaken from the silent expanse and hunters calling that you have less qualms about killing
but iirc even from before the player was more simple minded and violence prone like "taking care of cluckles" or killing the cows in shadow of the beast
||crack theory to piss off all the people who are actually smart: two is the old queen, the one before this one||
all requests to have me euthanized must be submitted at the front desk
ill take it one step further ||two is the real queen and anathema is a minion puppet||
What if we are the first queen of fruma🤯
what if the real first queen of fruma was the friends we made along the way
Talking mushroom is the queen of fruma
I mean theres gotta be some reason they are wanted even though that dialgoue got removed
What’s the first quest where we kill a normal dude
I mean it is hinted that she was in the govt before
(I am such a good writer (/j))
This is so in-character of her
so true fax
is this rex's brother?
so like i just finished twp and went around the map looking for any changes, and i can't help but notice how every single character from the fruma questline just ceases to exist after apotheosis is done. is there something i am missing or is this just not implemented/never will be implemented? it seems kinda weird to have such a long and detailed questline and then the only character you can talk to afterwards is some random dude from the soldier training quest
Not implemented yet
(This used the older shorter choice box so the text is cut off)
NYI
The new dialog sprites really allow to do silly things like this more better huh?
do u have access to the scripting language or are u image editing?
The new dialogue sprites don't let me do things like this
#❓questions message
I'm having fun though
brainrot zealot
(I replaced it with a link to the image)
Nah he ain't loyal like yharom
You need like a month or so
Fruma Storyline if it was good (/j)
holy verbose script
holy verberlase script
I'm glad that's the case 💀
but doesnt seem too bad tbh
