#📚lore_discussion

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slim belfry
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gale wasd selium theoey 🥲

exotic bough
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Unfortunately selium is no longer trans 😔

hybrid gazelle
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OUTDATED PROTRAIT

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THE ONE IN UNI IS OUDATED PROTRAIT

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THAT BEFORE HER TRANSITION

rotund gust
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selium is gale post transition theory. Spirit of gale is them pre-transition

slim belfry
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yeah I recall someone saying Selium was a Nasin

boreal crane
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begins to question life choices

slim belfry
boreal crane
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i only asked him how he got here

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he said from a wagon into ragni

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and i forgot the rest

exotic bough
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Also fixed this to be less “head canon is canon” worded for lack of a better term.

It was i who put headcanon(?) in that. I am not sorry because it is fact apologetic for this error.

slim belfry
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ah

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yeah I think unless something is very spelled out it's to remain implied

boreal crane
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imma go read the dialogue again

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Like i was fine with it as how it was tbh

exotic bough
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I mean like less “this is set in stone and pure fact” and more “this is implied so take it with a grain of salt”

slim belfry
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oh right it says presumably and probably

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that should still be enough

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better than the gale trivia skull

exotic bough
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*selium post transition

slim belfry
boreal crane
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here are the options

slim belfry
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LOL

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DO YOU REMEMBER ME OPTION

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He alr thinks about getting promotion 🔥

boreal crane
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some things never change bro

exotic bough
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The player is only a fan of the courageous aegis

slim belfry
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true

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player is the one who submitted aegis as part of the heroes

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Im only fan of hubert ❤️‍🩹 He's our saviour from the ass room

rotund gust
boreal crane
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have you done fruma quests

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Tbh i also forgot his name

boreal crane
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i forgot his role lmao

slim belfry
exotic bough
slim belfry
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sigh

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Gendarme are wings tho

exotic bough
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Ok?

exotic bough
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And gendarme are pretty much exclusive to aelumia while the rest of fruma gets ordinary wings soldiers

bold geode
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Do y’all think be funny to have an amogus type game hosted by the canopy, and the backstabbers have the role of changeling saltroll

hybrid gazelle
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no gendarmes are wings?

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what?

hybrid gazelle
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Strong survive literally said they are part of wings

exotic bough
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bold geode
exotic bough
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All squares are rectangles but not all rectangles are squares

boreal crane
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what if we bring effal to fruma

hybrid gazelle
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oh you mean that

slim belfry
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what even is bonfire game

hybrid gazelle
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yeah fair

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Hop on zombie tree grinding bro 🗣️

boreal crane
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🔥

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we're getting him back home!

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boreal crane
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first stop is probably picard's tower

exotic bough
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The orb requires a hubillion xp to function

boreal crane
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i'll bring hubert all the way from the citadel

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to here

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Man we need a hubert pet

slim belfry
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hubert pet would bring in money

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wings knight was eh I guess

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If ppl bought fruma packs 3 times for wings..

bold geode
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Infiltrate the Canopy would be a fire gamemode saltroll

exotic bough
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They should make bonfire prop hunt

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It alr has shit ton of players per party

hybrid gazelle
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hubert was iconic vecauseo f the meme

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butg sadly they are so fucking

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underwhelming in the actual game

exotic bough
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“You mean to tell me there are changelings among us? We need to worry about gik, yo!”

hybrid gazelle
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I am so sad

slim belfry
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I like hubert punching the door open

hybrid gazelle
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it was cool yeah but too bad that like

slim belfry
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I try to view it if I can

hybrid gazelle
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they dont have cool attack

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like knight shield

slim belfry
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yeah

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does the first kenshi do anything unique

exotic bough
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The miniboss in ensemble?

slim belfry
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yea

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I think all kenshi are same

exotic bough
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Idk but it had similar stats to the normal kenshi so I don’t think so

boreal crane
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yea.. about that..

exotic bough
boreal crane
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finished

exotic bough
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||I mean an arms a bit of a loss but it’s not as bad as it could’ve been||

boreal crane
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||she's alive, just not doing so well||

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Road to becoming item upgrader 🔥

boreal crane
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From boltslinger to sharpshooter

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Yus is definitely giving her a fucking arm cannon

exotic bough
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Wasn’t she already a sharpshooter

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Well ye

boreal crane
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She wasnt shooting lasers tho

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She was hmelee 🤯

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But like that would be on sharp

boreal crane
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Isnt she like

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Someone who cant use magic

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She prolly can but just refuses to

boreal crane
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She's just maki

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Heavenly Restriction

elder forge
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LOST NECKLACE CONTINUITY ERROR, ||the cave with cages got rebuilt to have no cages, the second question still requires you to think that this cave had cages, even though it doesnt anymore||

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When did it get rebuilt lol

slim belfry
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fruma

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bunch of corkus stuff changed

split night
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Fruma also destroyed seaskipper ticket trader dock

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😔

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I like to imagine that Anathema just sent out nukes and over existing area and delete them

rotund gust
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“i found her, here’s proof”

boreal crane
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"DUDE, WHAT THE HELL???"

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"WHERE- HOW- DID YOU GET THAT"

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"Its just a prank"

rotund gust
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we slap him with her arm “does this jog your memory?”

boreal crane
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"NO, AND WHY ARE YOU SLAPPING ME WITH THAT?"

rotund gust
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wynnteam please add a fabled spear that’s just rex’s arm

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like not even a weapon

boreal crane
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Smh

rotund gust
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just her arm

boreal crane
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Make it a bow

rotund gust
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how you gonna use it as a bow

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It should be a dagger

boreal crane
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Her she was holding the bow

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When it uh

rotund gust
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blunt force object, some spears are hammers close enough

boreal crane
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Yk

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Use her arm as an arrow 🔥

rotund gust
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🔥

boreal crane
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Since we're archers we can keep regenerating them

rotund gust
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get this man on ct

boreal crane
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BUT BOLTSLINGERS ON THE OTHER HAND

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Its basically this

misty horizon
lone bone
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Is there like a big Fruma lore thread? The more I progress in Fruma quest the more I'm interested in it especially the whole ||war, the twins etc|| part but I can't find videos on it

misty horizon
hybrid gazelle
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wanting to do new iteration of golems again

spring kernel
hybrid gazelle
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in this take I want them to feel less mechanical

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NGL I kinda wanna go more into like

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the distrubing flesh golem side of them

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compare to in game where they have circuit and stuff

winged narwhal
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Gavel’s tech level is all over the place

hybrid gazelle
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yeah

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so I rather focus more on the magic side

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to set them apart from Fruma and Corkus

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also it just

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way more intresting this way

winged narwhal
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Its unclear to what degree quartz resembles real world tech

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They switch up on that a lot

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And then you just have shit like the straight up security cameras in FP

hybrid gazelle
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yeah

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which is shyw i Just disregard those in my new interptation of gavel

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and just

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going the idea of industrialize magic

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where it feel industrialize on the surface but actually magic deep down

burnt robin
winged narwhal
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Orphion is perfectly morally good

burnt robin
winged narwhal
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He is the higher power. He will save Wynn from itself

hybrid gazelle
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I just thinking golems should be more sack of meat

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Which then reinforced by armor

lone bone
# burnt robin tbh its pretty understandable from two's dialogue

Just finished the quest where Two give the explanation btw so maybe I'm just missing stuff from later quest, but of what I understand ||Orphion and the Dern Beast were hating on each other, creating War/the Queen, then they found Wynn, started fighting, and it opened the door for War to also invade Wynn, but while Orphion and Dern Beast just use it as a battleground, War likes Wynn and want to protect it from them.|| Except that doesn't really explain how Fruma is so divided etc, what the player is, why the Queen act like that etc

winged narwhal
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The Queen is just like that

boreal crane
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The Queen hates war

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She's preventing it her own way

lone bone
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Then she's REALLY bad at her job damn

boreal crane
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Yea

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Sending brainwashed soldiers

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Isnt the best

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Except us

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We're the best

lone bone
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I mean and the whole cursed thing, like she could just use them in her army instead of lying to the population and creating rebels who want their loved one to not be kidnapped by the queen

lone bone
narrow kestrel
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whoever wrote gavel quests shouldnt be allowed near people bro

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this is like the 4th quest that involved pushing people off

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😭

rotund gust
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ok yuge doesn't deserve it but Seluc in canyon guides does

narrow kestrel
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imagine fucking hiking and one of the people in the trail is the quest writer

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😭

narrow kestrel
lone bone
# rotund gust summary :D

So of what I understand she actually just want to chill but she's too stupid to realise what's she doing

rotund gust
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no

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Fruma is just her playground

rotund gust
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yeah its not too stupid

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she knows

boreal crane
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She kinda gives a fuck

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About the ppl? Not really

lone bone
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I feel like there was alot of more peaceful way to do thing and not end up getting beaten by 4 kid in morph suit

rotund gust
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also the player is SEVERELY underestimated by the sovereigns and queen

boreal crane
burnt robin
lone bone
burnt robin
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||anathema DID have a realization at the end of wtp tho||

boreal crane
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What A Day to Remember

burnt robin
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what that realization might be id have no clue

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burnt robin
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Jump in and figure it out urself

burnt robin
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the other three are canonically tasim zeph and sui

rotund gust
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and that mf still things he can beat us

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lone bone
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Exactly

burnt robin
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one of them is from the rich castle

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sooooooo

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Morph is popular around the highlands canonically btw

lone bone
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TRUE

rotund gust
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that is true

lone bone
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It's a fashion trend

boreal crane
lone bone
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Gotta be dripped out to fight the Queen

boreal crane
boreal crane
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These morphlings spawned in highlands

burnt robin
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Son 😭

boreal crane
rotund gust
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well yeah but he hears about us beating the eye and parasite

exotic bough
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No way is that 2003_GREGNigel????!

burnt robin
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so he cant exactly see past the apparent emptiness

rotund gust
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and mf still thinks “yeah i solo”

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boreal crane
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Horizon spawned them in

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Is that a ct

burnt robin
boreal crane
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Uh no

burnt robin
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Ah

boreal crane
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The guy who dupes on p2w servers

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Oh

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Right did he make a video after all?

exotic bough
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Did he get like admin perks or smth

mossy badge
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Was he the one who duped barnus30's mythics?

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🤯

spring kernel
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he got some custom items

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that let him do stuff

exotic bough
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Intriguing

spring kernel
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and also special perms

rotund gust
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just for fun or like, to test for dupes

boreal crane
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Did he spawn 1000 arakadikus because the name was funny

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Shit devs allow for 30 views

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boreal crane
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That migration lasted 4 hours

tepid blade
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"How i trolled wonncraft"

steep forum
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hello lore discussers

tepid blade
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This is the video

steep forum
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@exotic bough you were writing the gikyo wiki page right?

rotund gust
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The Morphlympics

boreal crane
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steep forum
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||Light and Shadow's badge has U-i-, so it can't be union||

boreal crane
tepid blade
exotic bough
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Huh

boreal crane
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Its the guy who lead the morphlings home with me

exotic bough
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Swore it had 5 chars

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spring kernel
boreal crane
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exotic bough
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I’ll trade for their mythics

boreal crane
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I miss them

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How many ppl even know about ts 🥀

boreal crane
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Uh

spring kernel
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quite a lot

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surprised you haven't

boreal crane
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Everyone who was online that day

exotic bough
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There was like a whole video on Obsessors

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burnt robin
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dude i was doing raids when na16 was being spammed in shout chat

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😭

tepid blade
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A lot, it was posted on the discord in the your works channel

burnt robin
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i thikn i queued a raid ON na16

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burnt robin
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(it was wtp)

boreal crane
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Me

burnt robin
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me

boreal crane
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Salted has been sponsoring alot of youtubers

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But those vids are ass

burnt robin
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shrue

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alot of them are just skipping dialogue

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Its just hsb players

boreal crane
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That one recent 100 days vid pissed me off so bad

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Who most likely won't play like ever

exotic bough
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Yeah I didn’t like how most of the vids completely spoiled the fruma storyline

boreal crane
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100 days AND THEY ONLY GOT TO ARAKADIKUS???

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That's like 30 minutes of gameplay dawg

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boreal crane
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I dont think they care bro

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boreal crane
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Money

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Eh

tepid blade
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Like they paid them but do they get that money back?

boreal crane
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Where's asher

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We need asher

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Like i dont except a single of their viewers to play lol

boreal crane
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Or whatever his name is now

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rotund gust
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all the hsb youtubers getting thrown into fruma with no idea how to play their builds

tepid blade
burnt robin
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worst mmorpg in the world

boreal crane
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Still more players 😂

dense python
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mmorpg is rich

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its a prison server

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Ye

rotund gust
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yeah the only part that is rpg is the rift

boreal crane
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Hsb players when they play an actual good mmorpg:

dense python
tepid blade
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I used to play the server, but eventually got bored as it got way to grindy to progress, I hate grinding

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I played hsb for like a very little

rotund gust
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rift is decent

spring kernel
boreal crane
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I remember logging on to hsb and screenshotting it then sending it here during fruma maintenance

exotic bough
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I quit sometime after dwarves mines dropped as I just realized all the updates are just new ways to grind

boreal crane
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Everyone told me to quit

rotund gust
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but it’s so stupid with the game gated stuff.
like hmmm yes, we made an actual RPG section in our fake mmorpg, unfortunately you can barely play it

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burnt robin
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boreal crane
exotic bough
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And also there’s now like a shit ton of scams around every corner

spring kernel
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i do too

boreal crane
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Pys now!!!

exotic bough
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I checked in from time to time and I got dms from people wanting to buy exotics

rotund gust
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skyblock players spending 3 thousand hours grinding so they can get an item that lets them grind 5% faster

burnt robin
exotic bough
burnt robin
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during the 3xp

boreal crane
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Oh no

burnt robin
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ONLY acceptable time to grind profs btw

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boreal crane
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The hsb players are gonna get bored

rotund gust
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also them just not supporting stranded at all pmo

burnt robin
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i think so

rotund gust
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i tried to play stranded

burnt robin
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i had full gxp set on

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rotund gust
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and they just decided “yeah we aren’t gonna keep updating our skyblock gamemode since no one plays it and it’s too much work”

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burnt robin
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while its more fun

rotund gust
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yeah, it’s more fun once you have a decent amount of time to work with

burnt robin
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you kinda dont know where everything is and theres no pointers to get you started

rotund gust
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the first few entrances suck

burnt robin
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and you get 5 minutes 😭

burnt robin
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rotund gust
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yeah

burnt robin
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also using wiki is blasphemy

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i would never

boreal crane
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Why are yall still talking about trash

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An iq too high

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tepid blade
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I actually discovered Wynncraft for the first time because it was mentioned in a video about hsb

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"You login, you bridge over to the portal, and enter wonncraft"

rotund gust
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yeah

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🫡

rotund gust
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but i feel like that’s more credit to techno having a large audience not hsb having a large audience

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I mean ye

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Hsb just started then

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I'd assume

lone bone
narrow kestrel
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dc'd

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now i have to restart a quest

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from the start

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😭

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i was in the middle of cowfusion

rotund gust
boreal crane
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We were migrating them back to lutho

rotund gust
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longest possible route 😭

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bro took them sightseeing

boreal crane
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We were giving them a tour

spring kernel
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how'd you get them through the gate

narrow kestrel
boreal crane
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Wait til you see @hushed zinc 's map

narrow kestrel
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why do people keep saying morph

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morph this morph that

boreal crane
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What level are you

narrow kestrel
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morphions' morph of ligh

narrow kestrel
boreal crane
lone bone
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I wish you a very morphin christmas

boreal crane
narrow kestrel
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what

boreal crane
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I assume atleast

boreal crane
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I wasnt there

boreal crane
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I only joined halfway through at cinfras

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But i dont think the entities care if the gate is there

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To them it's just air

narrow kestrel
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wtf is morph

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# narrow kestrel what

Have u seen ppl with diamond helmet, iron chestplate, steel leggings, and gold boots drip?

rotund gust
# narrow kestrel ??

it’s the armor set you see in the gifs where each piece uses a different armor type

narrow kestrel
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whats the funny behind it

rotund gust
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uh

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Its very op

exotic bough
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It’s the lazy man’s build

rotund gust
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it’s just memed a lot

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The most op set in the game

narrow kestrel
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what is morphgration

boreal crane
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exotic bough
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400 skill points total iirc

boreal crane
narrow kestrel
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narrow kestrel
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wtf is soul point

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They nerfed sets 🥀

rotund gust
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Absolute Morphification

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💔

exotic bough
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Oh so they did nerf it

boreal crane
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What are you talking about

boreal crane
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What's a soul point

noble forge
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Not the soul points

narrow kestrel
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canary told me

narrow kestrel
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about soul point

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How

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lol

boreal crane
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Yall are schizo

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real

exotic bough
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Oh that’s still in the game

boreal crane
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Soul points don't exist

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boreal crane
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Y'all be hallicinating these made up things

exotic bough
boreal crane
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"As the sun rises, you feel safer"

exotic bough
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“Maybe for the last time…”

rotund gust
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you should consider dying on 0 soulpoints

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boreal crane
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Consider removing 2 soul points

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That was such an ass system bro

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Honestly it was fine

rotund gust
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no it wasn’t

burnt robin
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I still think the new scroll system is ass

burnt robin
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limits your playtime

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Just dont die 🤯

burnt robin
boreal crane
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(my torrential tide got eaten by the soul points monster)

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Like are u playing 6h a day or wat

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Dying every minute

burnt robin
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💀

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with hawks that snap your neck in a second

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burnt robin
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one shot snipers

narrow kestrel
burnt robin
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a freaking lighthouse that obliterates you no matter what

narrow kestrel
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whyd it get removed

exotic bough
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Gikyo took like 15 tries to solo

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rotund gust
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your punishment for dying was slowly losing items, meaning your build gets worse and you probably die even more as a result. Or you stop playing so you can regain points

narrow kestrel
burnt robin
exotic bough
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burnt robin
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timasca has one shotters

narrow kestrel
rotund gust
burnt robin
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world events also do that

narrow kestrel
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burnt robin
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But like 2 times at max

rotund gust
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especially if your zhiraok fights bricked so you don’t get eased into the difficult

boreal crane
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The syndra fight was a nightmare

narrow kestrel
hasty beacon
boreal crane
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Zhiraok too

exotic bough
narrow kestrel
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should i use the morph set thingy

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😭

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why are people gassing up fruma fights

boreal crane
rotund gust
burnt robin
boreal crane
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burnt robin
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well not actually that difficult

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They hit hard

rotund gust
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like maybe at-level bob, but even then the fruma bosses are more like… fair difficulty

burnt robin
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theyre pretty easy compared to the WORLD EVENT BOSSES

narrow kestrel
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trick is pretty uh safe for bosses

burnt robin
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WHICH HIT EVEN HARDER FOR SOME REASON

narrow kestrel
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the only thign its bad at is hordes

hasty beacon
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I beat syndra first try, like did some people just not see all the fire in the arena?

rotund gust
boreal crane
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Who would win?
Greg or a random beetle in auburn

exotic bough
burnt robin
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like these STUPID STACKPEAK EAGLES HIT HARDER THAN THE MFING QUEEN

exotic bough
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It’s opaque and in a tight space

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rotund gust
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the fruma bosses are really mobile so noxious is hard to abuse

narrow kestrel
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Whooly rhino solos any day

narrow kestrel
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im air spec trick

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would i get cooked

exotic bough
hushed zinc
boreal crane
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Why does a wrench from an overworked worker hit harder than an actual big ass sword from a colossus

narrow kestrel
rotund gust
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ehhh

narrow kestrel
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most trick combos need to be fast anyways

rotund gust
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i mean yeah, but they they cook you

narrow kestrel
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vanish > smoke bomb > spam shit

narrow kestrel
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😹

boreal crane
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Oh yea they just straight up shoot you with a gun

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Thats fun

boreal crane
noble forge
boreal crane
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Magic? I dont give a fuck
Starts blasting bullets at me

hushed zinc
boreal crane
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Nah it doesnt match

boreal crane
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It surpasses

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Dusk

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Show them the map

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JoeBiden347's Bizarre Adventure

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@hushed zinc

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😭 🙏

rotund gust
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like if you don’t leave yourself a mirror clone to tank a hit you can just get cooked

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everything deals a lot of damage, and most can deal multiple hits which burn through your clones

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and atleast gikyo ||sets up a lot of stage hazards to make it really difficult to get close|| so trick and shade struggle

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With maxed aspect u should be able to get ur clones back instantly (or i think so), surely u can smash spin and bamboo fast enough 🔥

boreal crane
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I took a selfie today

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He's a little shy

hushed zinc
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rotund gust
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yeah… vanish messes with zhiraok ai

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badly

narrow kestrel
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wait why are humans not allowed in gavel?

boreal crane
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He's just in disbelief

narrow kestrel
boreal crane
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That i vanished

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Bro is just so shocked he stopped moving

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Uhh

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Nirvana

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Intelligence mythic

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Surely u can sustain with it

boreal crane
mossy badge
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And like mr tomes

boreal crane
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I loved the bear zoo

summer bluff
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Does shade not struggle with anything? 💔

hushed zinc
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yeah bear zoo is neat I dont think I've visited it in years....same with using the tunnel from troms to pigman ravines that is something that has definitely been YEARS since I've used

boreal crane
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First time visiting it

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And it's a part of history too

rotund gust
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idk just expect to need to actually play with the fruma bosses, unlike the previous quest bosses where you could just vanish and win

rotund gust
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the goop is just really punishing for trick and shade

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since it eats your clones and makes it hard to get close

summer bluff
exotic bough
boreal crane
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Fruma is built for tanks

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boreal crane
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The rest either have their skulls bashed in, a limb cut off, or bullet holes

hushed zinc
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Fruma is built...yeah that's it someone did build it

boreal crane
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There is no fruma behind fruman walls

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There is no wasteland behind the walls

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There are no walls inside the fruman walls

summer bluff
# mossy badge How come

You vanish and nothing is going to kill you
Biggest complaint I kept seeing was that it was dangerous to get around bc Everything Was Trying To Kill You and I just didn't have that happen

mossy badge
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I wonder, is wastelands fully on main server?
Has no1 glitch abused there 🤔

boreal crane
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I cant wait to meet oru

rotund gust
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yeah majin is kinda easy on the two vanish archetypes

boreal crane
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And fucking kill him

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spring kernel
tawny arrow
spring kernel
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we haven't released it yet because we're lazy

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all finished too

rotund gust
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on beta when i fought the gikyo i ran out of potions the first two attempts. Mf forced me to get over my skill issue

summer bluff
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Zhiraok is fun as hell when you can double jump over him

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Whats the lore behind powderman

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regal spire
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How is he still broken in 2nd fight 😭

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I thought its cuz tps but it seems fine

boreal crane
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I was expecting a flat desert area with big things popping out

tawny arrow
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yeah me too but i actually think i like what they're going for here more
the bridges over the big chasms look really cool

boreal crane
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"fruma wont be very mountainy"
Fruma:

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Mesa 2.0

boreal crane
tawny arrow
tawny arrow
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human enemies

paper wyvern
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Is it not only powderman

tawny arrow
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no there's more

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Damn

tawny arrow
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one has a similar attack to powderman

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I didn't even see powderman attack 🥀

boreal crane
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We'll get lore right?

mossy badge
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Ye

boreal crane
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On why its a wasteland

spring kernel
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no

boreal crane
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Oh

spring kernel
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there is no lore

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never has been

boreal crane
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But why does it exist

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Is the queen stupid

spring kernel
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waste lands

boreal crane
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Are the sovereigns there stupid?

hushed zinc
tawny arrow
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plus all the destroyed infrastructure

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paper wyvern
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boreal crane
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Im interested to see on how fhe deraj is gonna look

rotund gust
boreal crane
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Uh

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rotund gust
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that one’s no i’m buried record tho

paper wyvern
# mossy badge The only one

||I mean taism is, majin is, zhiroak isnt, soosu isnt, two is debatable, gikyo is, and we dont know about oru||

rotund gust
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isn’t it one of the altars in highlands

spring kernel
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bro

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Bro

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boreal crane
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Its in the buried records i think

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The creation myth

rotund gust
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so

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i assume that’s why

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🤯

rotund gust
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yeah but buried records also has other stuff in it

past plover
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Seems like there's a new fashion trend?

mossy badge
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Ok?

mossy badge
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Its already out of trend

paper wyvern
short terrace
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bro where THE FUCK DO I GO for dwarves and doguns part 1

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wait

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wrong channel

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sorry xd

spring kernel
rotund gust
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nifilis is defo still alive trust

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He's just fat, in the ground, surely

rotund gust
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they wouldn't kill my goat like that

past plover
hushed zinc
paper wyvern
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nifilis actually ran away 4000 years ago to gavel and became garaheth

rotund gust
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one god still atleast holds influence

paper wyvern
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which one is atlashaz

rotund gust
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the fox

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The fox

rotund gust
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cause the ghostly fox lootrun enemy

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"Ghostly"

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Is like gale alive?

paper wyvern
rotund gust
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i mean i guess, but also could just be like a spectral form or something

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trust nifilis will either be alive, or be dead and their corpse is the source of changelings. my source is that i made it to hell up out of circumstancial evidence

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but it would be cool

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paper wyvern
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im going with the fox in washed away

rotund gust
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wait theres a fox in washed away

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paper wyvern
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Like from the resistance

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Way back then

paper wyvern
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Ye

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Ppl's spirit show up as foxes

rotund gust
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oh i didn't see that

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i thought you meant like "The foxes whisper of his injustices. He demolished the ruins of the Old Temple, and constructed the abominable Fort Torann upon its foundations."

paper wyvern
rotund gust
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but also the ghostly fox in the lootrun namedrops atlashaz

mossy badge
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Ye

paper wyvern
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in my defense I hate that lootrun

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(stupid lumberyard)

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hybrid gazelle
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so it seemsl ike

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most of wasteland already built right?

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I think salted mention it before

paper wyvern
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honestly im 90% sure they build tmost of fruma first and then modified it as needed for quests

hybrid gazelle
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that wasteland already build

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TBH if my theory were tur

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I imagine wasteland got lik2 main quests

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and 2 side quests

paper wyvern
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but yeah I bet if we glitched throuhg the barriers the wastelands would be a landscape

paper wyvern
hybrid gazelle
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the thing that you need to remember is that

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wasteland still ar egion

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it not its own expansion

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it's a region of Fruma

spring kernel
paper wyvern
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im betting 3 quests for wastealnds

hybrid gazelle
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fair enough

tepid blade
paper wyvern
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the landscape for the wastelands is proabbly already in the game but I bet some buildings and caves arent ready yet

mossy badge
paper wyvern
mossy badge
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What could we be doin in the wastelands even

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Other than the prison

hybrid gazelle
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we know that Wastleand is just a part of major update

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and wont be the main focus

tepid blade
hybrid gazelle
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so that mean the next major update would be something else

tepid blade
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My guess the next big update will be the Gavel rework, as it wouldn't make sense for them to do the Dern expansion before reworking RoL

rotund gust
# mossy badge WE all hate fruma lr

idk i’ve done exactly 1 fruma LR, only got 30 pulls before i got bored because i hate lootrunning, and got a pair of crabs. So i like fruma lootrun

hybrid gazelle
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I think CT mention before

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that Gavel is too big for them to remake

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so having major update revolve around remaking Gavel right after Fruma

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sound very not possible

tepid blade
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Well, at least a rework of RoL before Dern

hybrid gazelle
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I think Lexnt mention before if they were to remake quests

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AJB/AJf likely getting rework first

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so I highly dbout we getting ROL anytime soon

rotund gust
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frostbite removal like

tepid blade
hybrid gazelle
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I am more into the idea of next major update probalby dungeon rework

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major rework coming with wasteland dungeon would be nice wayto expand the ned game content

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but ngl

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I also intresting in minor update between major update

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I expecintg full on epliogue to release in minor update

whole river
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I kinda wonder how dungeon rework would even look

hybrid gazelle
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Depend on the direction

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but consider Dungeon meant to be early game content

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simplicity should be piority

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I FEEL like they probably giving silverbull dungeon division

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because it would be odd to leave that out

tepid blade
hybrid gazelle
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I think the boss is like the least concerning part about dungeon

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they will get remake that ofr sure

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Can't u alr skip it with wyvern

hybrid gazelle
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but the dungeon itself is

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bad

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the reward system in dungeon demand a lot of replay

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but

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Dungeon is so fucking linear

tepid blade
hybrid gazelle
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SO OS SO fucking linear

mossy badge
hybrid gazelle
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you likely bored out of your mind before you get acutal reward

tepid blade
hybrid gazelle
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I think it would be cool if dungeons give some exploration

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with complicate layout being made as the higher level the dungeon is

tepid blade
mossy badge
hybrid gazelle
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some sort of like that yeah

whole river
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Hot take I love the invisible puzzle in EO but I wish they did the canary quest option for people who fail more than 10 tries

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Feel like that’s the best of both worlds

hybrid gazelle
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I have my own issue with EO

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but then again I dont think it just particular dungeon fault

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but more like SE update as a whole LOL

whole river
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I hate that 90% of it is a boss run

hybrid gazelle
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I think having dungeon being exploration space

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would be cool

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but also still kept it simple

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comparing to raid which has more speicifc challenge that force you to work with your team

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also it would set more clear difference between dungeon and raid

limber swan
hybrid gazelle
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cause rn there like

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does not has that much distinct between the two?

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both of them feature you going through mutiple challenges

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until you read the boss

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in fact, raids are less linear than dungeon

mossy badge
hybrid gazelle
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because at least you get variant of rooms and boons

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so I still think dungeon being extremely linear would stay if it ever ogt remake

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ike DS being linear is FINE it the first dungeon though I would love for it to have optional route

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but as the higher level dungeon go, I kinda expected more

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also dungeon being exploration space

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would give so much oppurnity to put more lore

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like some dungeon desperately need lore sumplementary

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like fucking SST man

whole river
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I enjoyed how infested pit had you working with other NPCs, definitely think making them more of a lore supplement would help

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And also I thought the original charon fight was much more fun than how it is now

coarse hull
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whats syndras lore why did she leasve elise and why did she quit working for the crown

zenith coral
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she didnt take it well

rotund gust
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like an old zelda or D&D style dungeon crawl, nothing too complicated. Where you have to explore different rooms to find keys to progress until you find the boss and boss key

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or just big exploratory space like you mentioned, maybe like Monumentas wool dungeons, although since wynn doesn’t really let you break blocks idk how that would work

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and those would get pretty boring on repeat too if you know the route

coarse hull
zenith coral
hybrid gazelle
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Syndra back then did not know but she do notw ant to arrest her lover

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so she disobey the order

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which then lead to the crown send inquistor to bring her back to the palace t obe strip off her rank

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and send off to Auburn Forest

coarse hull
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I see

frigid elm
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||Is this area between the Ragni Outskirts and Royal Gate used for anything, or is it inaccessible?||

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||For reference, here’s what that place used to look like. The fact that it changed makes me think it’s used for something besides the one corner used in A Journey Home.||

ember coyote
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did not expect this nooooo

shut mist
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Yep

ember coyote
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this quest is lwk so good

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prob my favorite rn

shut mist
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That happens

lone bone
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Ok so I just finished the "cutscene" where Two show you the result of Light or Dark winning the war, but I'm not sure I understand if the Queen/War want to balance the scale, so none of them actually do considerable damage to this world, destroy them so the war end, or replace them and just be her own bad ending instead of one of those 2

lusty glacier
lone bone
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I mean I'm at the step of the quest where I'm at the table in front of the Queen's throne and like of what I understand they recruited Tasim to help fight the Dark up to in his own lair so they seem to be a bit more active than just balancing the scales that's what's confusing me

lusty glacier
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the parasite and decay and whatnot

lone bone
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ye but going up to in his realm idk

lusty glacier
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so if someone were to strive for balance, currently theyd help light and fight darkness aka us

shut mist
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Keep in mind we must fight for neither sides

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If one side wins, the world ends

lusty glacier
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yea even if we get to the point where we can kill one of them, i dont think we will

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since both are amoral

shut mist
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True

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Im just imagining a raid where you fight both at the same time

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And if one dies you have 1m to kill the other or else raid wipe

lusty glacier
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honestly yea could go hard

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maybe we try to weaken both so that we use the resonance weaver to sever their connection

shut mist
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True

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Weaken them and put them in a cell

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World saved

lusty glacier
shut mist
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Imagine that one new player lol

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Hard focusing one of them

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The other boss wipes the raid due to insane scaling

lusty glacier
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i feel like it would make sense but also make it harder, alas thats more gameplay less lore so idk how much we should talk about it

shut mist
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True

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I am interested in when uhh

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||a new anathema will come||

lusty glacier
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doesnt she say itll take a very long time?

shut mist
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Thats gonna be interesting to see

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She said a while

lusty glacier
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and since campaign is like over a single year, im not sure if we will see her, if we can expect to go to dern soon

shut mist
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Hmm

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We might need her to come back for dern

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Cuz sephanis shut off his portal

lusty glacier
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i mean would she have her memories? since she isnt entirely war like how the other two embody their realm

shut mist
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With no way to open

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No but

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Still

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If she comes back

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I feel like she will know

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Whats going on

lusty glacier
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im not too sure about what sort of return she will have

shut mist
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True

lusty glacier
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maybe next anathema will be a war loving beast

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and make the corruption spread worse

shut mist
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Perhaps but

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Like she said before

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We must treat it with kindness

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If we do

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It might help getting her back on our side

zinc quarry
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why do wynn and gavel not treat the player the same way as fruma does after fort torann

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like the player has at the very least killed thousands in wynna nd gavel i think

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is it cuz the corruption in wynn and decay in gavel have caused so many deaths that the deaths that the player caused are insignificant in comparison

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and tthe deaths are only notable in fruma cuz they dont have a corruption/decay equivalent

exotic bough
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cuz the player forced their way into the provinces against the governments will

regal spire
exotic bough
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in wynn they only kill the corrupt and turncoat soldiers

exotic bough
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in fruma they kill actual soldiers and even some heads of government

regal spire
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We’ve killed a bunch of random species, but their influence in gavel is sparse

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Fruma is the only notable scenario where we’ve just straight up murdered a town

zinc quarry
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hmm i see

round wraith
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is it canon now that multiple classes are in fruma at once?????????/

drifting aurora
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the class character logs arent canon

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they follow the 5 class characters as though theyre all playing through the game at once

formal bridge
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it's similar in fruma, where they also are trying to ensure people are as scared of cursed ones as people

rotund gust
snow kiln
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Oopsie someone was hacksies

split night
kindred cairn
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The Missing Piece actually made me shed tears. Wonderful work.

dim plover
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Basically Afelis but they actually have a stake in game mechanics when they’re present (I’m kidding I don’t actually know anything about Afelis)

drifting aurora
dim plover
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But lore-wise it’ll basically canonize almost all the music logs except the fact that they didn’t do the player quests

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I’ve had ideas of them also being like, a hidden ghost- tutorial of sorts that works for new players by being NPC stand-ins for players (or the NPC version of guides I mean)

Stuff like them appearing at World Events (keeping in mind like, region level requirements since they’ll level up with the player’s progress) and if you aren’t in a party you can accept a request to join theirs as a sort of mild aid in earlygame world events

Or smaller stuff like meeting them doing random stuff in towns and if you enter the town with really low health the Mage gets concerned and offers to heal you

Probably won’t work as well in practice if it was actually in-game though but I like the inspiration that they’ve generated in me

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I’m considering actually making a decent-sized forum post suggestion for them
If I have time to make one, the class mascot NPCs will be the one I’m doing first

drifting aurora
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i think i'd rather just do that sort of thing with regular npcs truthfully

dim plover
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But I’ll have to un-wackify my ideas first

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I think it kinda started with the first Espren trailer actually

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When I saw the graffiti at the end with the Warrior I got excited because I thought that the class guys were going to be actual characters in the Fruma story as a reveal that they weren’t just mascots for the server itself

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As like, side characters in the resistance or smth

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Rip to that idea but the thought stayed in my mind until now

wintry sky
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but iirc even from before the player was more simple minded and violence prone like "taking care of cluckles" or killing the cows in shadow of the beast

wary lantern
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||crack theory to piss off all the people who are actually smart: two is the old queen, the one before this one||

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all requests to have me euthanized must be submitted at the front desk

wintry sky
hasty beacon
tawny arrow
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what if the real first queen of fruma was the friends we made along the way

hasty beacon
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Talking mushroom is the queen of fruma

paper wyvern
signal bough
signal bough
dim plover
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(I am such a good writer (/j))

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This is so in-character of her

wintry sky
warm flicker
tough axle
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we are rex's brother

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we are charlie kirk

digital shard
#

so like i just finished twp and went around the map looking for any changes, and i can't help but notice how every single character from the fruma questline just ceases to exist after apotheosis is done. is there something i am missing or is this just not implemented/never will be implemented? it seems kinda weird to have such a long and detailed questline and then the only character you can talk to afterwards is some random dude from the soldier training quest

dim plover
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Not implemented yet

dim plover
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(This used the older shorter choice box so the text is cut off)

slender copper
# dim plover

The new dialog sprites really allow to do silly things like this more better huh?

wintry sky
# dim plover

do u have access to the scripting language or are u image editing?

dim plover
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I'm having fun though

wintry sky
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seems like scripting

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how did u do it?

dim plover
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(I replaced it with a link to the image)

paper wyvern
dim plover
dim plover
wintry sky
dim plover
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holy verberlase script

slender copper
dim plover
wintry sky
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but doesnt seem too bad tbh

wintry sky
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😭