📚lore_discussion

[hybrid gazelle]

That not fruma updare

[snow kiln]

I have a warped perception of time then lmfao

[zenith coral]

real life arcanist?

im dropping more peak here soon btw

[split night]

deep time effect moment

on a smaller scale

xd

[snow kiln]

Deep time effect?

[zenith coral]

here it is bois; "He felt like he was being squeezed between two wet slices of bread."

[split night]

for example, that pyramid queen is born closer to us than to when the pyramid was built

[snow kiln]

Cleopatra 😭

Yeah I see

[zenith coral]

new riftwalker node

[snow kiln]

Weird how it is tho

[split night]

I DO NOT REMEMBER HER NAME!!!

[snow kiln]

But she was like

The baddie of her time

[split night]

If i didn't know the meaning, i would think that Anathema is a pretty name

[brittle prism]

pyramid queen is greek btw

[split night]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1167848346485006459/1394255128696979568/togif.gif

[tepid blade]

Wild statement

in a funny way

[snow kiln]

Legit first fifo relationship

Caesar be shipping in every other week

[slim belfry]

wait what
I did not know this what people meant I thought it was a forum post wtf

[split night]

we're human, we are randomly built to survive so it make sense that we have a bad sense of reality because it wasn't prioritized in evolution really xd

[zenith coral]

do you guys think majin being single is unrealistic?

[split night]

it's real?? xd

[split night]

no, it's very realistic

[zenith coral]

oh thats the qira smut i read once

[snow kiln]

he works himself to death

there's no way he's capable of a relationship

[fossil depot]

....by who?

[zenith coral]

UH WHAT

[tepid blade]

no, bro is to self absorbed to get himself a partner

[zenith coral]

you mistaken majin for someone else?

[snow kiln]

Ohmb

confused Z and majin

[split night]

I don't think any woman, man or they can talk to him without getting their blood boilded dry

[slim belfry]

the big kit

[zenith coral]

i found him likeable enough. he seemed veeeery charismatic. i heard woman love these kinds of people.

[split night]

I don't

[fossil depot]

oh i just checked it out

i thought it was nsfw

[slim belfry]

it's not

[split night]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1167848346485006459/1394255128696979568/togif.gif

[snow kiln]

Majin? Lmfao

Z yes

Majin is so unlikeable

[split night]

I HATE MAJIN!!
I do like zhiraok and soosu though, they are charming

[zenith coral]

maybe my non-interactions with people have led me here

[slim belfry]

I think women even like gikyo more lol

[zenith coral]

shapeshifting is great in bed

[slim belfry]

and you know how gikyo is

[snow kiln]

I don't think CT loved him considering the way he went out like an overinflated balloon.

[split night]

I don't like gikyo but i agree with this statement
i can confirm

[split night]

very deserved

[snow kiln]

You needa get our of the lore discussions channel

[zenith coral]

thats just standard cosmic madness. its a miracle he lasted so long

[zenith coral]

nah

[slim belfry]

cosmic madness is like super drugs for majin

but you know how that ended up

[split night]

it's part of his fun

[snow kiln]

I think it ended up best for the universe

[zenith coral]

i do think its impressive he didnt go insane for a loooooooooooong time

[split night]

the gert situation

yeah i do agree

[zenith coral]

like remember general cosmic lore

[slim belfry]

he used it in small amounts but I think it did feed his already gigantic ego

[zenith coral]

i suppose an explanation is that due to his blessing manifesting this its just a knockoff

[split night]

most people went insane interacting with it
we didn't but i would say we only have a light exposure of it

[zenith coral]

not the real deal

[slim belfry]

I do have the theory as to how cosmic madness works

[brittle prism]

what if cosmic powers just give you brain tumors

[slim belfry]

simple theory really

[snow kiln]

He went unchallenged his whole life

He cracked the second he had any significant challenge

[slim belfry]

that's a possibility given how cosmic magic works

[snow kiln]

Do we know anything of cosmic magic?

[zenith coral]

so is it some bloodborne shit and your brain just metamorphosizes into a higher life form and if you dont survive youre cooked? (noone ever survived)

[zenith coral]

we know its a bad idea

[slim belfry]

it's a form of magic that amplifies things

[zenith coral]

we also know the mage class spams it

[snow kiln]

o_O some bloodborne shit in my wynncraft would be kinda dope

[slim belfry]

it can also amplify elements

[zenith coral]

like unironically maybe majin didnt die but he ascended

and hes now just a formless mindless force

[slim belfry]

in hindsight cosmic madness is likely psychological amplification

[zenith coral]

or eldritch truths

[brittle prism]

sohso moment

[slim belfry]

can be both

[snow kiln]

He's just invisible to those with low insight is all

[zenith coral]

insight helps you see monsters. it doesnt let you see axctual cosmic forces (atleast not physically)

like maybe majin got his wish, he is now an ascended higer being. but he cant do anything with it.

[snow kiln]

What

The amygdala tho?

That is a great one

[zenith coral]

the amygdala is a being. the thing i proposed majin ascended to was more of a vague force. like a big cosmic wave. bigger stronger etc. but not much of an individual in any sense

his hubris and his desire to become more was so strong he forgot what made him 'majin'. monkey paw curls.

fitting end imo

[fossil depot]

majin is a typical incel

[snow kiln]

What is the bloodborne parallel in this tho?

[fossil depot]

lmao

[zenith coral]

you brought up insight

[zenith coral]

eh ig. maybe i just like his powers and his ease of learning them. ofc i want magic

[fossil depot]

he exhales the "incel who wants to be a stereotypical alpha male" vibe

[zenith coral]

he does doesnt he.

[fossil depot]

yep

the way he treated gale

[zenith coral]

?! wha

[fossil depot]

he 100% would use 4chan

[zenith coral]

when was this a thing

[snow kiln]

House divided sd

Majin literally made gale suicidal

[fossil depot]

i kinda wish we instead caused an ego death on him tbh

[snow kiln]

Yea I wanted to see him suffer

[zenith coral]

i didnt find anything in that sd about that. the sd just said gale was apart of house nasin and bolted at one point

[fossil depot]

like make him understand he's a piece of shit that nobody loves while stomping his face at the end of the battle

[snow kiln]

Did you read her diary?

[zenith coral]

that may still be a thing. his death was fairly ambiguos as far as deaths go

[zenith coral]

didnt find that

[fossil depot]

majin loses the battle and goes insane from realizing someone beat his ass

[snow kiln]

Gale was forced by her mom to be a sov, to do so she went to uni, in her class was majin. He ended up harassing her day in and day out and made her go insane.

[fossil depot]

then we have some dialogue options, maybe a good guy route and the lowtiergod route 💀

[zenith coral]

yikes. well prolly get some dialogue we can tell to gale bout that (she doesnt remember anything likeley)

[fossil depot]

"Your life is nothing, all you know is to harass people and be pompous, you serve zero purpose as a sovereign"

[snow kiln]

Im pretty sure she does remember

But she lives with qira now

[zenith coral]

which brings up interesting lore questions

[snow kiln]

And I trust qira with my life

[zenith coral]

i once again hope her plotline doesnt get abandoned

[snow kiln]

I mean the fact she was brought up at all is incredible tbh

[zenith coral]

i mean qira not gale

[snow kiln]

Oh we ain't getting qira lore ever

CT defo wants the keep her mysterious

[zenith coral]

likie all of qira basically screams 'this is gonna be relevant later'

[snow kiln]

I think that is best play

[snow kiln]

Yeah her planning for the war of realms thousand years early is crazy

[zenith coral]

not even early

she could just be a veteran from the first clash

[snow kiln]

I find this unlikely

Qira is far to motherly to hail from the realms.

The realms don't have it in them to produce someone like her.

[zenith coral]

uh no there was a first clash on our world (we still dont know the name) and then someone sealed both light and dark away. i proposed qira is from this first clash

[dim plover]

Imagine if she’s a Dern native

Someone from Darkness that’s not actually on the side of Darkness would be pretty baller

[zenith coral]

and back then everything was more primordial, and she was like some average spider. she survived by hiding away and developed stronk ptsd and is now preparing like crazy for the next time

[snow kiln]

Oh I thought you were saying that she was fighting on the side of one of the realms not just a bystander.

[snow kiln]

Bruh where you pulling this shit out of

[zenith coral]

my ass

[snow kiln]

Peak

[fossil depot]

holdon was there even a first clash

[zenith coral]

yup two confirms this

[snow kiln]

Millenia ago with the ancient ones yeah

[fossil depot]

ah

is there any lore on it besides "it happened" ?

[snow kiln]

Nope

We know like tcc was built to defend against it

And time valley somehow avoided this

But like it's so vague

[fossil depot]

and the new one begun a thousand years ago or soo?

[snow kiln]

Well it's always been going on

[zenith coral]

and back then qira would be a average spider (still super strong and big have you seen her big body) and now she is trying to create a force out of all the elements native to this world (she refuses anything from the realms due to disdain and fear)

[snow kiln]

But yeah since bakal reopened to portal

[radiant harbor]

Didn't the elves reopen them?

[tepid blade]

Bak'al wasn't the one who opened the portals, that was the elves

[snow kiln]

Elves opened light portal

[fossil depot]

Who opened darkness, then? lol

[snow kiln]

Bakal opened corruption

[radiant harbor]

I thought they opened all three of them

[snow kiln]

Really?

[tepid blade]

no, that was still the elves, they tell you that themselves?

[zenith coral]

they caused a reaction which opened the corruption portal

[snow kiln]

My memory is bad then ig

[tepid blade]

Bak'al was the first person to enter the corruption portal and come back most alive

[radiant harbor]

Bakal entered the portal and became big B

[snow kiln]

This reminds me when will we get Wynn excavation epilogue

[zenith coral]

he went in rizzed a realm beast made her give him massive power and dipped

[tepid blade]

never, (: /j

[zenith coral]

theyll likeley first rewrite all of it

[snow kiln]

Oh 😊

[zenith coral]

depends. wynn excavacation is still at large

[snow kiln]

Yeah Wynn excavation felt important

[zenith coral]

with a crystal recipe that let them mass-produce them

[snow kiln]

But I dunno it's just kinda left there

[radiant harbor]

Also, is the crystal in aelumia university the same nature of the wynnexcavation ones or the void ones?

[fossil depot]

We need a midgame update asap

[zenith coral]

chances are theyll come back with amadel-level grunts

[snow kiln]

Void ones looking at it

Who knows how they got it though lmfao

[primal anchor]

wynnex is abandoned content

theres no way devs are still planning to tie it in

[tepid blade]

they could rework it so it ties in better

[exotic bough]

isnt this what theyre already planning on doing

itll at the very least get a substantial rework to modernize it

[paper wyvern]

Its really not that far away from the modern lore

definitely needs revamps but its not that bad

[quartz cobalt]

Anybody else notice Aldwells and The Leaves in the Wind theme in Anathemas boss theme? I would love to explore all the leitmotifs in this games ost

[slim belfry]

Aldwell was funny to hear who invited you

leaves makes since two of them fight with you

[cold cove]

Yeah, it's confirmed

[hybrid gazelle]

Wynnex remake is planned but like

I think ajb/ajf and rol is more of priority

From what I heard at least

But again tjis is from a single ct

Idk about the the team as a whole

I don’t think Wynnex is abandoned but at the same time compare to other story

It probably the least interesting to rrwrite

Consider how the story at its core really focus on you chasing mcguffin

Compare to morr character focus thst rol and ajb/ajf has

And like tjis is my personal theory but I think it also the fact that Wynnex as a quest also involve a lot of villager which is like

I don’t think they get it down yet on how they should remake them

[limber swan]

Wynnex needs to be reworked ye

[narrow kestrel]

i wish we knew more about the olm

actually, dernel jungle as a whole is pretty big lore-wise, no??

why does it not have more quests

not even secret discoveries 😭

[regal spire]

Because all of its content is really old

[hybrid gazelle]

It old content

[regal spire]

I think it got a slight build update in 1.18, and Lost in the Jungle got a boss update, but basically every other quest there is completely untouched.

[hybrid gazelle]

Which feature a

Very outdated way of writing

[regal spire]

I think I saw one of them climbing with their feet!

And boy do they smell bad!

[hybrid gazelle]

We likely getting jungle remake sometime later when they reach mid game

[formal bridge]

A lot of the old midgame quests are afllicted with the "heehee we're an mmo but in minecraft, look at these wacky characters"

That's also afflicted much of the villagers' entire existence

[hybrid gazelle]

Wacky mmorpg server!!!!

[regal spire]

The very nature of villagers existing as a species is holding back everything they want to develop them as

[formal bridge]

That's why I've said here before that they really just need to make them into anything but the base minecraft villager model

Once we have them finally being "oh it's villagers from minecraft, get it they like emeralds!!!" they can finally start getting better writing

[hybrid gazelle]

There a lot of way to remake the villaher

So I am curious on what they will do

[regal spire]

The fact that emeralds are the currency because of this

[formal bridge]

Honestly I'm fine with emeralds as currency, just so long as villagers stop existing

[hybrid gazelle]

Yeah I think emeralds is fine if you remove villager from the context

[slim belfry]

I hope the new species can meld something like they love drinking liquid emeralds

[regal spire]

I like the satisfying green tint to em. Reminds me of a dollah bill

[hybrid gazelle]

Salted: hey guys let’s make fun Minecraft mmorpg server with wacky lore!!!
Troms quest writer for some reason:

[formal bridge]

Its the right kind of "oh but its in minecraft get it?"

Similar to how creepers are even if that quest could probably use a touch up

Yeah they exist but it's just a minor reference and with emeralds it's basically just swapping gold for emerald

Vs villagers which are everywhere in Gavel

And wynn too for the most part

[slim belfry]

creepers are currently in the processed of being phased out lol

[winged narwhal]

Villagers could probably have done without being the big-nosed conquering merchant minority that’s so greedy they started the Decay

[zinc quarry]

why is the king of ragni a villager btw

[hybrid gazelle]

He adopted

[zinc quarry]

oh lol

ok

[regal spire]

King of Ragni so goated…

[winged narwhal]

My favourite option for replacing villagers would be making them a kind of evolved Weird, but that might be too weird

[formal bridge]

I think they don't need new lore

Just make them different models

[hybrid gazelle]

I try to experiment with them more

[regal spire]

I think they should just be some type of bald mix of elf, goblin, orc, dwarf, and olm

[winged narwhal]

I doubt they’ll cut the creeper quest

[hybrid gazelle]

Oh no they will lmao

[slim belfry]

creeper quest is the only place where creepers exist now

[hybrid gazelle]

Creeper getting nuke from tbe orbit

[slim belfry]

they used to be in other places

[zinc quarry]

did they exist elsewhere previously?

[hybrid gazelle]

The moment when they touch ravine

[hybrid gazelle]

Nope

[zinc quarry]

ok

[hybrid gazelle]

All creeper stuff been remove in timelost and rol

[formal bridge]

Creeper quest only exists for as long as pigman ravine does

[formal bridge]

Cause once its gone they'll write a quite frankly better equivalent, and they aren't as keen to yoink from minecraft anymore

[hybrid gazelle]

Pigmen ravine is literally only place you can see creeper

Tbh for me

I think I rather learn about the ravine history in the quest

[winged narwhal]

I think they’ll keep it to the ravine

[hybrid gazelle]

Because in fruma it seems to hold some importance

They will keep the ravine yes

But not creeper lol

Like yeah that is no shi

[winged narwhal]

Although if the ravine gets fully reworked they might dump creepers

[hybrid gazelle]

Ravine got mention in the Rosetta Stone

So yes

[winged narwhal]

No, I think they’ll keep creepers only in the ravine

As the dying species or whatever

[slim belfry]

what why

[hybrid gazelle]

It mention that

The settlement that is now Ragni

Meant to hold control over the ravine

And command its creatures

So the potential rework of the ravines probably could have us explore this past

Which I would be 100% down to

[formal bridge]

I'd like for creepers to be included as a fun one time side quest but wouldn't be upset if they disappeared for something more interesting

[hybrid gazelle]

Yeah

And what we se in Rosetta Stone so far

It look interesting

[lusty glacier]

arent they in a quest? in pigman ravines?

[hybrid gazelle]

Yes

[formal bridge]

They definitely don't need to be part of the temple of legends questline which is a godawful fetch quest across half the map

Another midgame quest in need of a rework

[winged narwhal]

Temple of legends is awful

[tepid blade]

True, I had basically redo the entire creeper quest just so I could get the mask again

[formal bridge]

It lost it's appeal once 70 was no longer the high level and is now slightly above halfway

[lusty glacier]

when does lategame even start

[winged narwhal]

Bobs reincarnation is also rather bad

[formal bridge]

Sky islands imo

[tepid blade]

Right now, I would say level 90 to 100

[formal bridge]

Which is the level range of sky islands lmao

[lusty glacier]

for me, i probably consider stuff earlygame until nesaak/40, and midgame ends around the lava region

[tepid blade]

But late game will continue to get higher as time goes on

[formal bridge]

Yeah even now it'd be more appropriate to say theres four level sections

Early wynn, mid oceans + some llevigar, the rest of gavel, then sky islands into SE and Fruma

Roughly every 30 levels or so

The oceans and midgame wynn content needs the most touchup

Since that's where wynnex is which is the most left behind story questline

[winged narwhal]

Fruma feels noticeably different from SE or the islands

[formal bridge]

Oh for sure

I just feel it still fits, fruma only feels unqiue cause it just came out and had a ton of development time

Silent expanse was from 1.19 even, so even that's a tad aged compared to all the revamps and fruma since

[lusty glacier]

1.19 was like 2019 no

[formal bridge]

Yop

December of 2019 but still over 6 years now

Fruma is the first region released since and you can feel those 6 years of improvement lmao

[fossil depot]

I wonder how the SE past lutho looked like before dern did its bullshit

[split night]

It probably look like Rymek

you can see the resemblence here and it being under rymek just make sense xd

[fossil depot]

😭

[lusty glacier]

what sort of resemblance?

[split night]

the terrain

[split night]

oh you mean just the town?

[fossil depot]

no no

the terrain past it

[lofty mortar]

Anyone know how to get into the royal university

[fossil depot]

toxic wastes, void valley, EO, etc

[split night]

then it's just rymek terrain with a bit of troms vegetation but got darkened

It seems like the part near nesaak are filled with life

[hybrid gazelle]

Ngl I wish se habe more interesting interaction like in fruma

[split night]

so it make sense to conclude that the terrain would be rymek but look a bit like troms jungle

[fossil depot]

we know lutho and the eyeball forest used to be a normal forested place

[hybrid gazelle]

At least habe some shit for us to read when we explore olmic city

Like idk man

Se is probably like bigger than fruma as a whole but still has less content than it for some reason

[fossil depot]

def not

[lofty mortar]

^

[hybrid gazelle]

It still somewhat similar in size

It mf got like what

5 quesrs?? sd is not that all intresting

[split night]

You're kinda right actually
i'm looking at it in the map they look about the same size

[hybrid gazelle]

You do the garden

[fossil depot]

its half the size of fruma

[split night]

it's more Fruma - SE = wasteland

not half

[hybrid gazelle]

Half the size of fruma but quarter sod it’s content

[lofty mortar]

You mean wellspring?

[hybrid gazelle]

I am dying lmaoooo

[split night]

yeah it's more Fruma minus SE = wasteland

[hybrid gazelle]

No it near university

[split night]

about 25% smaller

[lofty mortar]

gotcha thanks

[fossil depot]

SE is also very mountainous

[hybrid gazelle]

I think if we get to updare se

It should have its own skybox

Like mistwood

And literally morr interactable

[split night]

I love mistwood foggy look

[fossil depot]

i really want to know what the fuck used to live in the toxic wastes, if it was a single enormous creature

[split night]

Trashie are you alright, why is some of your word a little bit jumbled up

xd

[hybrid gazelle]

I am using phone

My fingers big

[split night]

I think it's just normal region with the slime thingy infecting and turning the ground into a living mass

[fossil depot]

like was it an enormous sarlacc thing

[hybrid gazelle]

I think toxic waste would do well with mobs like that one cave in mist wood

If you know what I am talking about

[split night]

I mean in one of the secret discovery, it kinda show that the toxic waste is just a normal region but when portal to dark open, straight slimey creature just kinda infect the ground and turn it into a giant living mass

[exotic bough]

the entozoon takeover?

[hybrid gazelle]

Yeah

[fossil depot]

where?

[hybrid gazelle]

Imagine giant ass tentacle as extension of the toxic waste

[split night]

near the lootrun protect challenge at toxic waste

the hole

[exotic bough]

that'd actually go pretty hard

[split night]

one time the ground at the toxic waste just open showing a bunch of teeth and ate me

[hybrid gazelle]

Yeah

More of that coukd be cool

[split night]

i hope i taste sweet

[hybrid gazelle]

Imagine if the eye make the toxic waste its own body guard

That would be cool

Like poking it awake when you arrive

[split night]

i kinda find it funny how that random ass arrow-like pillar orphion shoot stick out so much in the SE

[lusty glacier]

i mean fruma is like the densest content we have yet

[tepid blade]

It so much bigger on the map than it is in game, it looks stretched

[hybrid gazelle]

Yeah cause they have better planning and direction

Compare to se where it fall into similar trap

Of other region

Where it just “make a space and think later”

[lusty glacier]

im not sure what other region even has comparable amount of content

[hybrid gazelle]

The problem is just

There a lot of dead space

That do nothing

[split night]

It have better content than the whole gavel

[signal bough]

SE is pretty dense

[hybrid gazelle]

“Se is pretty dense”

[vapid path]

Oh god the worms in that cave creep me the fuck out

[signal bough]

60% of it is just wretched mountains

[hybrid gazelle]

LMAOoOoOO

[signal bough]

so you have like

[vapid path]

Doesn’t help that the mines and city might as well not exist

[signal bough]

40% areas with a lot of caves and SDs and enemies and then 60% with nothing, mostly you can't even go on the mountains

it is odd

[vapid path]

But tbf Fruma kinda has that problem too with xima valley and tutorial

It’s just that it makes up for it

[signal bough]

the xima valley was pretty memorable

(for the wrong reasons)

[lusty glacier]

what reasons?

[signal bough]

stackpeak eagles

[split night]

SE have like 4 quest

[signal bough]

it's, once again, odd

low on quests, high on caves and enemies

[vapid path]

God the eagles are sooooo….

But the music slaps

Halcyon is an awesome track

[split night]

I feel like for a place that got darkened and filled with monstrocity, it feels a little bit empty

[vapid path]

I think that’s the point

[signal bough]

it's so odd 😭

[lusty glacier]

esp the entire old city parts just feels like it has no content

[split night]

Ignorance is bliss and Maple Chime gotta be my favorite

[signal bough]

cause it's empty before lutho and then swarming after

[vapid path]

Like, atmosphere is on point in SE

It’s so empty and desolate

[split night]

yeah the Olms are like, very important but we lack anything about them, we barely explore Olm city xd

[vapid path]

And when things do show up it’s soooo weird

But yes I do think content wise it’s a lot of wasted space

[lusty glacier]

i feel like atmosphere can be on point while still having stuff to do

[split night]

I really like the little jiggle when you do a world discovery got warped into something twisted though
it was very fitting

[vapid path]

Yeah I agree

[split night]

I don't think there is even any mini quest here

like

[vapid path]

I think a direct comparison would be like almuj desert

[split night]

no mini quest in SE at all

[vapid path]

Also gives desolation vibes but has content lol

Altho maybe that’s mostly due to level difference scaling idk

[formal bridge]

SE has a lot of different areas, and in Fruma each one has many quests involved in them which allows us to see all kinds of different aspects to them

In SE we get a brief tour through a spooky mansion

[split night]

I think at least SE was kind of impactful with its quest
Gavel is packed with quest that feel kinda low effort

[formal bridge]

Gavel has content without substance and SE has substance without the content to match

And even the substance is just ok

[vapid path]

“His lord The Eye asks for the local mutated lutho citizen population to be culled, they’re becoming an eyesore in the otherwise pristine toxic wastes”

[split night]

Fruma have content and substance

I love Fruma

[formal bridge]

It helps with a few extra yesrs to develop lmao

[vapid path]

So true, good point

[split night]

Orphion give the Lutho's citizen drug first before Saphanis could do anything

[formal bridge]

I would give SE like, at least 2 more quests minimum

[split night]

I think each one for Olm city and toxic waste is good

[formal bridge]

It doesn't help that lutho citizens are so bland

[signal bough]

there is at least one place where the SE has more content

[formal bridge]

Like i get rhats the point but they just feel like set decor rather than people

[signal bough]

Lutho has a good intro quest

[formal bridge]

It doesnt help that the hunter's calling sucked up all the quest time for SE and is just "wouldn't it be bad if this happened?" pseudo pretentious waffling on for the entire map

[split night]

I'm so glad that because of the train system in Fruma, Lutho isn't the endgame city anymore, it's the 5 town we can choose in the train thing

I personally picked Aspren Town to be my endgame town

[split night]

I think the Hunter's calling quest could have been good if you only need to do 2-3 scenarios
not like fucking 10

[signal bough]

hunters calling is good as a final quest in the game

[split night]

it's almost as bad as lgend temple

[formal bridge]

Hunter's Calling only works if it's the literal last quest in the fame

which it used to be, but it isn't anymore

So now it's kinda purposeless

[split night]

yeah im glad i use Olinus for it
i genuinely can't fathom the pain of just trying to find every spot and be evil xd

[vapid path]

Or if you COULD actually choose outcomes, with different end dialogue or quest reward

[tepid blade]

It think the Hunter calling would be cool if it didn’t send you back to the starting point of the quest every time and doesn’t give you a way to return back where you were pulled from

[formal bridge]

it's very much meant to be the "let's go around the world and see what could have happened there" quest

but now that fruma exists it kinda doesn't work anymore

[split night]

it just sit at a weird spot now
like i think queen just send us a message in discord and ask us to come back to Fruma and we was like, right outside of Realm of Dark portal

xd

[lusty glacier]

do we know who the questgiver of a hunters calling is?

[formal bridge]

Now it's just a weird series recap episode in an anime right before the final arc that you skip when watching

[split night]

Drugdealer

[formal bridge]

spooky ghost man

[signal bough]

I think that most new people/replayers would fit it at like

[vapid path]

Two: lol so yeah what exactly happened in rol all we know is that you got gatekept from rod and decided to ask you lol

[signal bough]

lvl 112?

[formal bridge]

I think it really needs to either be reworked entirely or moved to after we defeat the dern beast and be the full game recap that it used to be (with better mechanics)

[signal bough]

cause fruma is thick on the content and you're getting enough xp until a perilous dropoff at 112

[split night]

I think repositioning it to right before we enter Dark is kinda good?

[formal bridge]

and also not have corkus be weirdly lengthy, even if I appreciate the respect put on maxie's name

[vapid path]

So true, mistwoods slump is real

[paper wyvern]

Corkus is kinda short???

[fathom falcon]

For ensemble of Hope ||there are 8 chairs does that mean there are 8 total sovereigns?||

[split night]

I love Maxie

[formal bridge]

I mean in the quest AHC

[paper wyvern]

Oh yeha

[split night]

i agree on this

[signal bough]

PLEASE WYNNCRAFT DEV TEAM RENDER UNTO US AN ALDWELL INTRO QUEST

[formal bridge]

where maxie just stops your evil plan like 3 times repeatedly which is absolutely hilarious and doesn't seem to be the intended tone of it lmao

[paper wyvern]

Yeah idk why they made AHC and then didn't make it the dern portal opening quets

[vapid path]

It’s the SE problem again, like the mistwoods vibes is there but theres so much less to do

[paper wyvern]

It absolutely fits as last quest before thee end

[formal bridge]

It really makes it feel like all the other sections also would have been way longer if there was anyone competent in those regions like maxie

[paper wyvern]

I mean aledar and taism fight is pretty hard

[signal bough]

there so easily could be like 2 more caves and an aldwell intro quest

[paper wyvern]

Definitely hardest non raid boss pre fruma

[formal bridge]

yeah but those are the final boss of the quest and you go up to them right away

[vapid path]

I want a citadel catacombs side quest, which would help unlock the later main quest plot point and shit

[formal bridge]

it'd be like if instead you had the detlas section where you being the evil puppet tries to mess things up but the two of them foil it repeatedly until you just kill them, which is what happens with maxie

[vapid path]

And maybe give us that shortcut we’re missing into mistwoods from aelumia pls god

[formal bridge]

It makes the corkus section of AHC last way longer than the rest and be hilarious to me when I was playing it

cause it makes the rest look so dumb with how easily maxie defuses it

[paper wyvern]

Yeah love the maxie glazing but definitely a bit weird with how quick the other sections are

[split night]

Maxie is just goated

best diplomat

[paper wyvern]

Honestly would be cool if the corkus cast met the fruma cast

[tepid blade]

Maxie is my favorite successful boyfailier

[split night]

I could be possible, I feel like now that Her's Majesty is gone, Fruma border should open and anyone who wishes to come back get to come back

I do want to see Rex reunited with her brother

[formal bridge]

maxie works well as an early example of what the leaves are storywise and what lari kinda tried and failed to be

The NPC helper who guides you through the story

A lot of early game and mid game quests lack one and you can feel the lack of personality as a result

you can see how late rgame quests they figured out how to add more personality by usually having a little guy follow you around

And the leaves are basically that for all of fruma, shifting between Zeph, Rex, and Sui

[paper wyvern]

Well they really only started doing it with corkus

[split night]

ALL THEY NEED TO DO WAS ADDING TASIM AND ALEDAR TO THE QUEST!!!
seriously, if we have Aledar accompany us more in Wynn and Tasim accompany us in Gavel it would be so peak

[vapid path]

Do we know who that is

[split night]

yeah we actually do

[paper wyvern]

So maybe when wynn actually gets revamps we can see aledar and taism more often

[vapid path]

Holy shit really?

[split night]

remember the boat guy in recover the past?

look up how he look and compare him to rex

[vapid path]

The one we shrink? Lol

[paper wyvern]

Yep

[warm adder]

bro got shrunked

[split night]

yeah like
I don't think there is anyway you can spin this that they are not related xd

[vapid path]

Oh my god

[split night]

I'm glad that Caid live a good live being a sailor outside of Wynn

[vapid path]

Same pallet and everything

[warm adder]

what did he do from recover the past i forgor

[split night]

steal guard stuff so he got exiled

[warm adder]

o yea

were district slums just auburn fores

[hybrid gazelle]

after mutiple offend btw

nope

district slum is roughwork

Caid mention to disappear in Roughwork

[warm adder]

oh roughtwork

forgor

aaa

[hybrid gazelle]

so the RTP that shown in Caid and Raynauld cutscene is Roughwork

[split night]

Rex and Caid are originally from roughwork

[hybrid gazelle]

Tasim is in Auburn

[split night]

Aledar too I think?

[hybrid gazelle]

nope

Aledar and Tasim are in Auburn

[split night]

Aledar could be Auburn residentt

[hybrid gazelle]

we dont know muc habotu Aledar but he was a leave members

[warm adder]

what even iss hyloch

[split night]

yeah that's what i was gonna say

xd

[warm adder]

rich people place?

[hybrid gazelle]

yes

Hyloch is the upper class

[paper wyvern]

Yeah aledar was in the leaves and taism was some guy

[split night]

You know like, the upper class during royalty era of human

they are basically that

[lusty glacier]

wasnt rex part of a noble house in highlands?

[round wraith]

yeah

[round wraith]

caid went to the roughworks

not originally from there

[split night]

I haven't done most of the secret discoveries yet mhm

[round wraith]

its in quest dialogue

there arent secret discovs about them

[hybrid gazelle]

Rex and Caid were from noble house from Highland

[split night]

okay i'm just dumb

[hybrid gazelle]

House Anass

or something

I forgot

[round wraith]

Anassa maybe?

[tepid blade]

I wish that was explored more in her character

[round wraith]

Anassis?

[hybrid gazelle]

Anassa yeah

[round wraith]

gikyo says it

[paper wyvern]

It's mentioned in true colors

[hybrid gazelle]

I think let me go look

yeah

[round wraith]

"that Anassa girl"

[split night]

oh

I guess it was pretty missable then

[formal bridge]

It's mentioned in passing a few times as far as I remember

a minor character backstory detail

[paper wyvern]

She and caid presumably left because of how ineffective the highlands group is

[split night]

that's neat

[formal bridge]

rex in the highlands group sounds like her hell

[paper wyvern]

Yeah rex isn't part of either of the noble houses we actually know about

[split night]

yeah 😭

[hybrid gazelle]

Nah Caid left because he got into too much trouble

[tepid blade]

Caid was forced out because he was committing crimes

[hybrid gazelle]

Rex left because she want to go find her brother

[paper wyvern]

I think there's a line where she calls it a glorified book club

[hybrid gazelle]

She was in steel feather for a while

[formal bridge]

book club is a generous description

[split night]

It's just multiple account of theft, i wonder why they didn't just do the memory shit and send them back out instead of just exile xd

[paper wyvern]

Presumably nobles get exile as a second chance and then if that fails they go to wynn

[vapid path]

I don’t think the general public is super aware of the ba sing seing

[formal bridge]

yeah just being a bit of a thief isn't as much of a memory wipable offense

[vapid path]

And nobles are high profile enough to be noticed after memory wipe

[formal bridge]

they use that to get rid of anyone they don't want ever coming back

And Caid eventually became a bit too much of a hassle

[paper wyvern]

They definitely don't want anyone of note to disappear forever

Unless they are a big problem

[split night]

I think stealing shouldn't be the same account as being a cursed one or oppose the crown

he still got exiled away

[formal bridge]

well once in roughworks he was stealing from the guards

[paper wyvern]

Yeah

[formal bridge]

They don't want the appearance that their guard force is bribable and being taken from

so throw all the evidence into wynn

[split night]

odd stuff

[tepid blade]

Well, any criminal is probably seen as a possible exile, just to keep the prisons empty

[formal bridge]

I think it makes sense

fruma, as any totalitarian state, wants to appear impervious

[split night]

I'm kinda sad that we didn't get to do the break them out of prison thing

[formal bridge]

Caid snatching guard equipment makes them look weak and is more serious than more petty stuff

bumps him up on the list

[paper wyvern]

Presumably the prison is gonna be part of the wastelands storyline whenever that comes out

[formal bridge]

I think the mini breakout we do works well enough for it

[raw badge]

Could that also give us more info about the aftermath of the Wartorn Palace?

[random hedge]

Chat what is this?

[formal bridge]

Not released yet

[split night]

runes and key

[raw badge]

I'm a bit curious on if there's gonna be a new leader of Fruma

[split night]

you can't enter it yet

[random hedge]

How to get key

[formal bridge]

not released yet

[raw badge]

Not Yet Implemented

[paper wyvern]

Iirc the some CT people mentioned eventually implementing post raid changes to NPCs and dialogue

[raw badge]

Fair

[formal bridge]

Presumably Zhiraok and maybe Soosu will do it

[split night]

they are not gonna start another monarchy i'd say
but the Resistents and 2 Sovereign would work together to manage Fruma

[random hedge]

Prob twos lair where we will meet before going into dern

[raw badge]

Fair

[frozen turtle]

i hope we'll actually get to break people out cuz it was like "omg this super cool prison and we're gonna break into it!" and it just happens off screen basically

[formal bridge]

Zhiraok was already governing two of them by himself, Highlands isn't exactly high maintenance work, and the mistwoods were doing their own thing already

[raw badge]

Alright

[split night]

Man it was so hyped up I genuinely thought we gonna have prison break questline

xd

[paper wyvern]

Yeah we need a third prison break quest

[hybrid gazelle]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DZnAOGzm7VLgOsnuZZackUJLJO-v53a3F1kL8YrySME/edit?usp=sharing

I got a theory just for you

[frozen turtle]

this prison was actually hyped up tho

[raw badge]

Out of the six sovereigns (yes, including Tasim); Only Zhiraok, Two and Soosu remain although I dunno if Tasim resigned or not

Gikyo and Majin were KIA

[frozen turtle]

im assuming they will rewrite some stuff so we'll like be the ones breaking ppl out

[paper wyvern]

I'm still hoping it becomes a dungeon cause that means dungeon rework also it would fit well as one

[frozen turtle]

OH yes me too

[raw badge]

KIA basically means Killed in Action

[frozen turtle]

there have been no new dungeons

which is sad

[split night]

He ain't resigning after he killed Rex
he probably should stay and fix Fruma and work on his shit

[formal bridge]

I've said it before but dungeons at this point are just repeatable quests

[tepid blade]

I would guess that the mistwoods would probably seek independence in a post-queen Fruma, and everyone else would be ruled in a form of democratic council

[formal bridge]

they don't offer anything unique enough to warrant not having that effort put into a raid insteada

[raw badge]

Iirc the last "update" was the second chance to all dungeons (except Fallen Factory & the corrupted ones)?

[split night]

I HATE dungeon please don't add anymore of them

[raw badge]

Fair

Well Rex is actually alive

She got ressurected albeit with a missing arm

But I suppose Tasim would feel guilty over such

[hybrid gazelle]

well they said Wasteland will be PART of a major update

[frozen turtle]

i like them they just need some reworking

[hybrid gazelle]

imply that it not the main focus

[raw badge]

Almost like someone casting an unforgivable curse

[hybrid gazelle]

there is a chance that ti will be dungeon rework

[frozen turtle]

and also. idont really get the forgery dungeons

[formal bridge]

forgery dungeons are another midgame relic

[tepid blade]

He might join us in later adventures to help him redeem himself, at least in his eyes

[formal bridge]

one of the corrupted dungeons doesn't even have a non corrupted version

[paper wyvern]

Honestly rework dungeons into single player option raids

[raw badge]

They're mostly a sort of marathon for getting a chance at getting a mythic

[lusty glacier]

which one?

[formal bridge]

timelost sanctum

[frozen turtle]

forgery kinda feels like they just didnt feel bothered adding dungeons for Gavel so they just added red to existing dungeons

[paper wyvern]

Corrupted lost sanctuary

[lusty glacier]

ah

[formal bridge]

yeah the creeper one

[raw badge]

That's because the original LS was changed to Timelost Sanctum

And also likely why the Sanctuary leggings are there

[paper wyvern]

I mean gavel was supposed to have raids from the beginning and didn't actually get any till gavel reborn

[formal bridge]

timelost sanctum itself is in a weird place with no associated quest

[raw badge]

Its likely coming soon but idk

[formal bridge]

soon tm

[raw badge]

Unlike Fallen Factory & Eldritch Outlook, I think said quest would also be optional

[paper wyvern]

So it made sense to have corrupted dungeons until raids were done and then the idea was just abandoned till it was taken up again for gavel rebeln

[raw badge]

But still

[frozen turtle]

yea so maybe they just added forgery to take the place of raids

[raw badge]

Btw wasn't there meant to be something about the clock mystery?

[formal bridge]

corrupted runs are a pain anyway

[split night]

I LOVE the dialog option "There he is, The one I was looking for"
it was genuinely so peak saying that o Tasim

[formal bridge]

You need both keys and a bunch of runes just to open them up

[paper wyvern]

Oh right clock dungeon

Clock mystery was supposed to be revamped in gavel reborn

[raw badge]

I still have all of the eight clocks

[paper wyvern]

And then it never was

[raw badge]

And yet time is ticking

Pun intended

[frozen turtle]

and the prize is like maybe you get a mythic

[tepid blade]

Yeah, the kind path for his dialogue was very nice (and fitting for the my Wynn OC)

[paper wyvern]

And I doubt the CT cares that much cause the reward was a dungeon

[formal bridge]

loot runs works far better even if they aren't perfect either

[split night]

I just love it so much, I always like Aledar and Tasim as friends

[frozen turtle]

also makes no sense for the corrupted dungeon to be where there is literally no corruption, i think there is some sort of explanation ingame but still

[raw badge]

You have a Wynn OC?

[split night]

player's Character is your OC!

[tepid blade]

It’s mostly me playing a character when I go through the game

[raw badge]

Fair

[paper wyvern]

You don't have an OC of your player character?

[raw badge]

Only got a skin and a nickname

[frozen turtle]

I just wish we saw Tasim more lowkey, he's meant to be wandering around Gavel as a hero but we literally do the same and never run into him

[raw badge]

That's it

[tepid blade]

Fair enough

[frozen turtle]

which i think would be a cool addition if we meet up in gavel so then seeing him again for fruma would be better

[lusty glacier]

what is KA and NA in terms of fruma calender?

[narrow kestrel]

whys he so serious 😿

i just wanted to pet that dawg..

[pine forum]

knowledge age, new age

[split night]

check out my OC
she's so cool
( i drew this in class, i was bored )

[tepid blade]

Oh shit he did get new dialogue box design

[raw badge]

Dawg? The Baby Orphion pet literally purrs

[paper wyvern]

Ka is 500-750ap and na is 750-880ap iirc

[raw badge]

Aye

Bak'al also got the same as Anathema

[signal bough]

so if there is a 112 mistwoods aldwell intro quest then it'd be at the low point of the story

it does turn around a little quickly

so this would be rock bottom

[raw badge]

ngl I started having some head fiction about someone who originated from Fruma (much like the player), but likely was part of the recruits you saw in A Journey Home

That recruit apparently was just like the soldier or whatever

The soldier is the player aka us

When I say head fiction, I basically mean fiction I thought in my head

like head canon but adding on or whatever

[split night]

we are a little bit different than the average exiled btw
we have something much grander nested within the vast emptiness as a mask to hide its true nature

[raw badge]

Mhm

To be honest I feel like the lore of Wynncraft as a whole feels unique

I dunno if there was any similar RPGs or fantasy novels or whatever that inspired Wynncraft besides Runescape or whatever

[signal bough]

I don't think anything else has done an 'infected heaven' ngl

[raw badge]

Hmmm

Not gonna lie, if it wasn't for Relos' secret library, then what the heck would I know about Fruma or even get an interest in lore?!

[split night]

minmaxxer looking at us after we say we play the game for the lore:

[split night]

honestly, for me, I started being interested in the lore when I did the very first secret discovery in the game

it was pretty neat and it hooked me in

which is uh, right when I start the game

xd

It kinda gave me the motivation to do all the quest, secret discoveries in chronological order for my first playthrough

[tepid blade]

I started to get interest in Fruma, because I liked the story they have in the quests and the line about us finding the string in our void

[signal bough]

it was a gradual thing for me

mostly I was like 'well I'm playing the game might as well learn the lore'

and then I just paid attention to the political lore cause no one else would

[split night]

Villager is so ass bro locked in

xd

It's actually canon??

woaw

[slim belfry]

I mean

seems pretty blatantly "yeah I'm roaring knight"

anyway I was hooked from the start because I glanced at the map before I began

[signal bough]

I played in HS, before SE dropped

and fell off cause I didnt really know how builds worked and didnt do caves and I was lvl 60 or so when the SE dropped and I couldnt get in

[split night]

reading the bob story in the ragni secret library for the first time is an experience xd

[split night]

i thought they look like some dark soul boss
they should have have more slash attack for more roaring knight reference

[signal bough]

and when I went again I took the morphpill which worked for me, until ofc it didnt

[split night]

I only use morph for like a few day before actually started looking into making build and reading stats

[frozen turtle]

i think we are secretly a scion for cows

[split night]

i guess cool story for your Character

the thing is that we will never know what is the spark Anathema referring to

so it's up into interpretation, which is intended

[unique cedar]

My bet is we're the opposite of Anathema

She's the hate that comes when dark and light collide

We're the balance

[lusty glacier]

is hate and balance opposite?

[slim belfry]

no but anethema is also disorder and chaos

[unique cedar]

Well not really opposites but you get me

[split night]

we are Orphion and Saphanis love child theory

[winged narwhal]

Does Soosu still have her aigumemt

[unique cedar]

Yeah this is more so what I meant

[split night]

yeah

[winged narwhal]

unfortunate

[split night]

Two said what has been marked on them isn't easily discarded

so they are stuck with those powers for a while

[drifting aurora]

it wasnt even a real dungeon

it was 8 boss fights that were of varying levels from 40 to 80

[regal spire]

I’m especially confused about the level 40 boss

You can’t even access it without going to higher level areas for the clocks

[drifting aurora]

nah, the old one you could just walk in

and the clocks were used to open each boss door

and i think you needed to kill all 7 to unlock the final one? though i'm not actually 100% certain on that

idk clock mystery wasnt actually very good

[regal spire]

I think I vaguely remember that, maybe I was thinking of the golden clock you needed

That was accessed after all the bosses were beaten? Or maybe it was all the clocks?

Regardless, the actual intended solution didn’t matter, cause you could just AFK with Kronos or whatever their name was

[drifting aurora]

you spent that at the merchant

[hybrid gazelle]

I cant believe that clock mystery is a lost media,,,

waterfall run down my eyes

[brittle prism]

soosu robot arm

[brittle prism]

I've been trying to say this for a while

We are the opposite of corruption

And we have ice powers?? because it stips corruption

[hybrid gazelle]

since

since when we have ice power

what

[brittle prism]

and also santa is the realm beast of Craftsmas

AKA peace

[hybrid gazelle]

and no

it did not strip corruption

[unique cedar]

You lost me at ice powers

[hybrid gazelle]

it slow down its advance

that entirely different thing

Ice do not get rid of corruption

it simply slow it down

you can literally see corruption attempting to defrost Nesaak

there world event for it

[brittle prism]

And also invisible walls exist around mountains because at the top of mountains the craftsmas power is too powerful

[hybrid gazelle]

ok man

[unique cedar]

||Would make sense we're a familiar spark if we have the same nature as Anathema||

[brittle prism]

On a serious note yeah

[hybrid gazelle]

||and also other realm beasts||

||but we dont know yet because she also use the similar analogy with fruman recruits||

[brittle prism]

it would make sense

Maybe not the craftsmas thing

[hybrid gazelle]

there definitely something going on

but we dont get the full picture yet

cause as Lexnt said
It's a crumbs

[brittle prism]

But the opposite-yet-familiar nature thing

[hybrid gazelle]

where di opposite come from

she just said familar

huh

[unique cedar]

||Also since Anathema can't control war, maybe we can control both light and dark IF we're the embodiment of balance, we just don't know it yet(or at least cleanse the influence)? Would make for a way to clear the word once both Orpho and Saphanis are out of the picture||

[unique cedar]

That's just a theory, a wynn theory

[hybrid gazelle]

||Another theory I have is that we are directly creation of the Weave as the Weave attempt to save reality from the war against the two beasts||

||Which is why it feel like we are agent of change that become moving gears that change everything||

[drifting aurora]

i love crumbs

[hybrid gazelle]

||Because throughout many parts of the story in the game, players bring change along with them and become core part why things change||

but again a theory since we literally like

have 0 concrete evidence rn

[spring kernel]

breadcrumbs... mmmmm

[winged narwhal]

weird ass question: do you think Wynncraft follows atomic theory

[brittle prism]

Yes and no

Yes there probably are atoms

No it probably doesn't work the same way as in real life, otherwise a lot of things would be

weird

[hybrid gazelle]

unless say otherwise

we can assume everything in wynncraft made up of atoms

well

actually you can say tey made up of elements

but like wahtever

wynncraft is still a living breathing world that likely follow the similar rule as our world in order to function and exist

so for simplicity

we can assume the fundemental work just like our irl unless the game state otherwise

[brittle prism]

||I do think if anything ends up being the "opposite" of war, it would end up being cold themed, since Corruption and ROW has a fire-ish theme||

Kind of a leftover from when it was the Nether

[unique cedar]

||What is the weave exactly? The creators of runes?||

[hybrid gazelle]

Well from what we gather

The Weave seems like reality itself

or at least source of all magic

||Anathema did mention that the portal was the consequence of the shell broken as she refer it as the Weave could not bear her presence||

and knowing from Sui that there is strand in everything

and how everything made up of elements

[unique cedar]

Wouldn't that just be the name for the our realm then

[hybrid gazelle]

I lean more into the fact that the Weave is probably relaity itself

and probably why spell casting in wynncraft need a cost

not really

it like

[unique cedar]

The Weave cause both realm beasts want to weave it to their whims

[brittle prism]

ehh there's probably weave outside of our realm

[unique cedar]

Silksong reference 🔥 🔥 🗣️

[brittle prism]

since there's also magic outside it

[hybrid gazelle]

the information we got from ||anathema|| imply that the Weave only reside in physical plane

[brittle prism]

?

huh

then it's not the source of all magic

[hybrid gazelle]

not talking to you

Anyway

[unique cedar]

Well yeah would make more sense for the weave to reside in the physical plane if it is the physical plane

[hybrid gazelle]

The Weave seems to have mind of its own or at least some rule

IDK

it hard to explain how to describe like

[unique cedar]

Where is that stated?

[hybrid gazelle]

well I mean

literally ||anathema state that the Weave open up the portal becuse it could not bare her presence||

but then again I might interept wrong

[unique cedar]

Like that the weave is a living thing with something going on behind

[hybrid gazelle]

||tho one thing that i would like to mention||

[unique cedar]

That doesn't really mean that it's alive

[hybrid gazelle]

||that in Apotehosis, the queen state that the Weave is beyond her reach now that Resoance weaver is taken from her||

[unique cedar]

It could be the same as "The world could not bare her presence"

[hybrid gazelle]

||So I am more incline that The Weave is reality itself||

[brittle prism]

It could be like breaking through a wall of sorts

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah

that more likely

[unique cedar]

So not an alive thing

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah probably

[unique cedar]

We do know that realm beast are tied to their realm so they probably can't escape them

[hybrid gazelle]

||consider we know that the rune itself is the reality block itself||

||and how the runes are the truen ame of reality||

||it likely that the weave IS reality itself or at least this main source of it||

[unique cedar]

Eeeh

[hybrid gazelle]

||Cosnider how the world itself describe to be made of magic||

||let me check overture||

||the analogy and words associate with fabric tend to be use a lot ot describe magic such as how the queen felt her own shell falling apart||

||and the binding of the portals||

[drifting aurora]

i love lore

[winged narwhal]

i think the weave is some fabric of reality type thing

I also think it's related to Wyrd.

[slim belfry]

fabric of reality...

it's like you need some kind of weaver to make and shape that fabric...

[limber swan]

||this was an idea I had recently for a Wynnex rewrite||

||Amadel uses elemental crystals to try and weave reality in his own image||

||but turns out the elements dont actually create corruption and I misinterpreted the dialogue sooooo idk where to go with this||

[drifting aurora]

i feel like not enough people talk about this chunk of postraid dialogue (4.2.1.2 in the doc)

[lusty glacier]

what is she talking about here? the tool and such

[drifting aurora]

i appreciate these comments on 4.2.1.1

[limber swan]

||what if we were to make them see the plane the way anathema saw it?||

||idk might sound stupid||

[drifting aurora]

actually is this all on the wiki yet

[limber swan]

nope

[drifting aurora]

sad

[limber swan]

most fruma characters aren't even on the wiki yet

[drifting aurora]

because some of the formatting in the doc is like. really really bad lol !!

[limber swan]

I don't even think they have all of the quests on the wiki yet

[lusty glacier]

yea some quests are missing

[limber swan]

yeah the wiki needs more editors lmao

not me though

they do NOT want me

and I should know

look at the shit i say in this chat lmao

[cunning geode]

making the quest pages is very time consuming

[formal bridge]

Tbf the doc was made very haphazardly by whoever was finishing up the raid at the time

So it can definitely use a good touch up lmao

[hybrid gazelle]

Honestly it relaly iuntresting how she see the beauty in the world

I think the circumstance of her realm make her able to see the world as what it is, as something worth to protect

while in other otherhand

Saphanis and Orphion have control in their respective realm un like her

they see no beauty as they hard stuck on the fact that if the ycan control their realm

then they can make it beautiful

in their own way

[formal bridge]

How I see it is that the two other realms see it as "this is everything I know, what is that thing over there it's different I don't like that"

Vs Anathema going "my realm sucks, this place looks amazing and way more interesting than fighting all the time"

[safe coral]

That one extremely angry rant about Bak'al definitely sticks out the most

[tribal crystal]

does the citidel have any ambient mobs currently?

[frail tulip]

https://youtu.be/_cSQrRi1cOo?t=3472 anyone knows which song plays in this scene

[silver path]

doesn't take a genius to decipher this but the log has no title

so probably a good idea to check on the description of the video later

[split night]

I love Anathema for the part is that she was in constant agony within her realm
when she find Fruma, she basically found her heaven

and considering that she spend her life eons being tortured, the little spark that is Fruma make it worth it for her

[split night]

she hate bak'al for betrayed her and side with dark and cause more trouble xd

bak'al is one opportunistic bastard

[hot timber]

is majin gay or just incapable of pulling

also do the queen's blessings given to the various soldiers and sovereigns still work

[hybrid gazelle]

I pretty sure the blessing given to lower soldiers and weapons are just normal magic

and no Majin just larper

[restive yacht]

guys has the new language been decrypted yet

i'm assuming it was

[mossy badge]

Not entirely

[restive yacht]

?

text was deciphered no?

but like some characters are missing (?)

where can i find the text

[mossy badge]

Fruman language isnt just a different font

[mossy badge]

#1489836179665981621 pins

[restive yacht]

does it take from dogun

[mossy badge]

No

Its a constructed language

"Conlang"

[uneven basin]

so the lighthouse near jofash docks uses fire to make light

AND YET

There's a box of light house bulbs in the room below

litteraly unplayable

[slim belfry]

this is awesome

love environmental lore like this

[honest pollen]

im new but ig someone has already found aout that this means ''coming soon'' on the bottom of the world map below fruma?

[slim belfry]

yes

[honest pollen]

ok good

[slim belfry]

crazy that after wastelands we wont see any more of these

[honest pollen]

will next expansion be wasteland?

[slim belfry]

yes

[honest pollen]

niceee

[restive yacht]

read some of the document

ngl this is quite a rabbit hole, considering i do not have any background on ts

[mossy badge]

Ye this is some deep shit

Bluds made a new language for wonncraft 🙏

[dry drift]

blud singular 😎

[elfin dew]

Hello.

So, do we get any info about what the player was doing before wynn ?

[mossy badge]

Nope

[burnt robin]

nah

[weak hedge]

Do we have more info about other province or Fauma is last one

[mossy badge]

Well there will be an update which will bring an additional area to the fruma map, other than that its been speculated that the realm of darkness will be the next expansion after that

But reworks would lowk be better before so dont expect shit in the next 15 years 🔥

[burnt robin]

the midgame needs a heavy rework

as does the ocean

[mossy badge]

✅

[burnt robin]

(why is half of gavel and the ocean still running on /replacenear %)

retexture the terrain in the ocean to be up to par with fruman mountains ❌
make a random ass mountain range called bremmyn hierra in the desert ✅

[mossy badge]

W wonncraft

[burnt robin]

one of the lighthouses in the coean is still running on mfing yellow stained glass panes

to simulate light

😭