#📚lore_discussion

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hybrid gazelle
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wtf are you even talkin gabout

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Woah

whole river
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i interact with them most of the time and they defend her more than "goon" to her

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The content team has one fan of this character

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Mb sir I’ll be quiet

hybrid gazelle
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good

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hybrid gazelle
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mf see one people ironically post thirst post about Lari for attention once

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and decide that is all Lari fans are

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Well i havent seen those with other characters really

whole river
hybrid gazelle
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just because you only see shit from surface level and judge it by that experience alone

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Surely if u search up lari on some nfsw site, there are more about her than other wonncraft characters

hybrid gazelle
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As oppose to?

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as like

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as like

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fucking oppose to what

whole river
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how on earth is that on HER? or me?

hybrid gazelle
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that too

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how this change anything

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Who said its on u

whole river
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then why bring it up

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hybrid gazelle
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yeah why does htis even matter LOL

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Every character has it

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Cuz lari fans are gooners 🤯

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whole river
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he tried it again

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Have u seen seaskipper nsfw

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Like bro

whole river
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weak set up

hybrid gazelle
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no because he is a man LOL

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Trashie just assumed their gender bruh

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hybrid gazelle
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I met with multiple lari fans and barely of them are actual gooners so IDK what are you even talking about LOL

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can you name these people

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I wanna look through them

hollow lynx
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How curious do you have to get 😭

whole river
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interesting that I only hear lari antis mention her NSFW

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almost like there's an agenda here

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hybrid gazelle
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that a site

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not a person

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Made by a person

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🤯

hybrid gazelle
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yeah

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who tho

whole river
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they wont say anything cuz they have nothing

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whole river
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or is that the extent

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In this scenario, no

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whole river
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i doubt you do in other scenarios cuz cmon

split night
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they ruin Lari Fans reputation

hybrid gazelle
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This is such a display of ignorance

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People have the right to thirst about characters

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Cmon

hybrid gazelle
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but syaing every fans of the said characters are these people

whole river
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try again

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hybrid gazelle
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not only display ignoance but invalid other people opinion on characters

whole river
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they want to get me in a gotcha moment and i just dont care

hybrid gazelle
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it's disgusting

split night
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Don't even group Lari fans with Lari gooners 😭
That's like, what Toriel fan and Toriel Gooners??

whole river
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yes i am insulting you, i will say it to your FACE too

hollow lynx
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there are Lari fans and Lari gooners. They are completely seperate

hybrid gazelle
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it's just display of ignorant

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When did i say i dont like lari

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whole river
hybrid gazelle
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generalising people into a group it still dispaly of ignorance

whole river
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bro doesnt even stand on business either

hybrid gazelle
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it does not matter if you mean it or not

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it still an act of ignorance

tepid blade
whole river
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like at least try to be serious about your lari hate instead of crying when getting pushhback

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i respect honesty than whatever you're attempting to do

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summer bluff
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Looked upon the Horrors again

Yeah no it's mostly orphion
Even qira has more

hollow lynx
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Why

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hollow lynx
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Seek help

hybrid gazelle
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we dont needt o know that

whole river
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damn so lari haters lied again

hollow lynx
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Please

whole river
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what a surprise!

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summer bluff
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Which is bad of me

hybrid gazelle
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Then why are you genelising Lari fans into one group

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Why would i hate a fictional character?

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😂

hybrid gazelle
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okay

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but this does not really change

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the fact that you generalising people who like Lari as gooners tho

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that like

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does not really change anything

whole river
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stand on your beliefs!

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hollow lynx
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How did we go from lari is going to die to lari fans are gooners...

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hybrid gazelle
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IDk ask Pixel

azure tangle
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yall its a game its not that serious

whole river
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cuz lari haters are 12

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and incapable of serious convos

tepid blade
whole river
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lari death flag is an interesting convo

hybrid gazelle
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then what is this tho

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whole river
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ive seen way worse on here and the mods didnt step in, as long as it is related to the lore and doesnt devolve into personal crap-slinging

azure tangle
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this is a wonderful lore discussion

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Indeed

hybrid gazelle
whole river
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its just a guy who doesnt play the game and wants to bait but no one here is biting

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whole river
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dottore fans are ALL murderers totally

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oops wrong series

hollow lynx
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Why do people call me evil for thinking genocide route is the best

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snowgrave

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hollow lynx
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Snowgrave is even better

azure tangle
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😂

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not biting the bait would just not be responding to him right

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yall are just baiting each other

whole river
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I was just counting lari gooners as lari fans, mb gng

whole river
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I dont wanna argue

whole river
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you have no beliefs of your own about lari is what i mean

azure tangle
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like, thats just baiting again lol its not that serious

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automod strike me down

whole river
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damn these messages getting automodded

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Every1 gets automodded here smh

hybrid gazelle
summer bluff
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Skinning a chicken is ridiculously fun btw

whole river
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If anyone cared

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Why did it take me so long to see the similarity

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Majin is like Kefka from FF6... appearance-wise at least

whole river
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its weird cuz automod has a 50% to remove a message if it says gooner

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oh this time it didnt

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yeah

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xd

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It doesn't

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U can say gooner but not g*on

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Very smart mods

split night
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My message was most gooners objectifying woman while fans love a character for their characteristic
that's the difference

whole river
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we established there isnt even lari nsfw anyway so

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orphion and qira take the cake apparently

split night
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but i won't judge xd

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The guy just said orphion and qira has a lot/most

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whole river
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but now imma say it is cuz you got caught

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whole river
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so you did see some nsfw of her

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Of who

whole river
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wynncraft is p tiny

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Like i havent seen REAL nsfw of lari, just sexualized gifs

hollow lynx
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Sure

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😭

hollow lynx
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We all know

whole river
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we know

hollow lynx
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You can admit it and say sorry

hybrid gazelle
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You do realize yoh could shut this whole arguement down by actually known shit?

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And to answer your all question

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Yes there is

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Anyway

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We move on from this

digital swan
whole river
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maybe, but i wish there was more fanart for wynncraft

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need more tasim

hybrid gazelle
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There is

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It a bit niche community

digital swan
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tasim nsfw???? you weird bro

hybrid gazelle
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But I recommend checking out tumble

whole river
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who said nsfw

hybrid gazelle
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But this discord server is fine too

whole river
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did you just assume tasim naked when i said fanart

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interesting....

hybrid gazelle
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Twitter has some fanart but mostly inactive

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Tumblr likely the most active one

digital swan
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buddy was talking about nsfw 2 minutes ago and then said he "wanted more fanart"

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:bartek:

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not suspicious

split night
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Spamslang want you guys to move on from nsfw

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Noo we must discuss grootslang nsfw 🤑

digital swan
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fair tbh nobody here is looking at tasim nsfw

hollow lynx
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If you really want to talk about it

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how far does aledar get if him and tasim switched places

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He loses his pots and gets 1shotted 😂

digital swan
whole river
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its kinda funny hes the assassin when he tanked a lot more crap than tasim

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He would be eliminated in the tournament

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Player would become sovereign if tasim is the one dead in a journey further quest

whole river
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he must be on trickster nulli build

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Both are weaker than player

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Still tasim was chosen

whole river
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i honestly don't see that cuz the player beat tasim too

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Huh

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Aledar is with the resistance group, and he is stronger than everyone else except player

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So the queen can only choose the player

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Who's better assassin, him or zeph

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Him

whole river
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aledar can jedi spin into a brick wall and survive enough to get stabbed multiple times, and this was after the rest of the shenanigans of that quest

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he might just tank zeph

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Zeph been training 3 days

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More than that

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Like 2 weeks atleast

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And he survives ana

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i think zeph tries to stab him and it just breaks (this is after aledar buffs himself with a hair loss potion)

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The resistance’s progression in strength still makes 0 sense

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Hair loss potion meta 🤑

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There should have been a reason to delay the festival, maybe due to the terror attacks, giving them time to train

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the storyline doesnt take place over 3 days

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whole river
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i assumed it wasnt three days tbf

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theres dialogue in the steel feather chapter that mentions the festival is in one week

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I’m not saying literally days, but how many years of progress did they make in this time

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Bruh 3 days was a number thrown out, not a scientific measurement

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1 week isn’t better

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whole river
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the player learned how to talk and instantly became the byleth of teachers

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goated

ruby plover
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1 week for steel feather, + what? 4-5 days in leaves chapter

hybrid gazelle
whole river
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the leaves are also probably just more suited for magic too

hybrid gazelle
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like

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personal preference ofc

ruby plover
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hmmmmmm

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ruby plover
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Roughworks probably

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Aint they eatin bugs in auburn 😭 🙏

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ruby plover
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i think we didnt have time to add all that we wanted but there were plans to have a bunch of like streetfood stuff in Roughworks

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WAIT

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WHAT

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ROUGHWORK HAS STREET FOOD

hybrid gazelle
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I was under impression you like package meal and I was like "damn okay I did not expected that"

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ruby plover
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Zeph was capable with a dagger long before we arrived

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hybrid gazelle
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When you said Roughwork, I though you would be saying those 7-11 meal package

whole river
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roughworks food is healthier than mcdonalds lets be honest

ruby plover
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Roughwork might have it rough but they got bomb food

hybrid gazelle
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OMG now you make me imagine they have like

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Roughworkers putting the fries in the bag 🥀

hybrid gazelle
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grilled pork stick

ruby plover
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Yee

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whole river
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street vendors sounds awesome tbh

hybrid gazelle
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@ruby plover these?

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mhm!

hybrid gazelle
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DUDE ASIAN STREET FOOD ARE SO GOOD

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Random kebab vendor 🤑

hybrid gazelle
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Dude

whole river
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why is roughworks now my favorite area

hybrid gazelle
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this is thai pork stick

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??? please tell me she crashes out in another questline after this

hybrid gazelle
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wtf are you talking about

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shes so fun to watch

hybrid gazelle
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these are not random

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i think tex had a bunch of ideas from korean streetfood

hybrid gazelle
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can you be respectful for fucking once

uneven basin
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I need rough works to have street food vendor npcs now

split night
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keep playing

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W lari

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I love Lari

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# whole river magic isnt linear no?

Bruh like clearly not but even a music prodigy won’t be a world class pianist in a week and a half. Yes nothing is linear and people progress at different rates, hit blocks, have quick growths in strength, but even if Zeph was a prodigy, how is a week and a half enough time for zeph to be anything other than a liability to fight anathema

hybrid gazelle
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Well

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I DID once???

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it like at korean restruant when I was in Uni apartment

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I htink it like

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kimchi rice??

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yeah kimchi rice

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ruby plover
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we also tried to set Zeph up to practice literally daily. He is a very very hard worker.

  • I made his fighting style very similar to how he would use his dagger. So its more of an extension of his blade skills
hybrid gazelle
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I like the fact he has hook sword lOL

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I guess he really good at disarming people

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and he's been training with a blade since he was like 12

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hook swords are great and we need them more in media

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lol

hybrid gazelle
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TBH I think one of the main issue i have with Zeph magic progression is

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no fucking way he and Yuman can take down 3 wing knights

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before they even put a scratch on two of them

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😭

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Yeah the wings knight moment is a bit

hybrid gazelle
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I think that one of the problem I have

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meh

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i wanted to change it to constables but didnt have time

hybrid gazelle
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yeah fair

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maybe next time

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hybrid gazelle
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that too but like

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at the same time

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I dont see who else would make it work

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so like it fine

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it at the end of the story

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it fine

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xd

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hybrid gazelle
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I cant really imagine how it could have gone

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In my hc, Tasim did not put all his heart into that fight

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The player just solos everyone 🤯

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she held her ground against empowered/butterfly Tasim btw, it's insane

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like canon in game

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xd

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Why even bring others to danger smh

whole river
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i dont think tasim was trying his best in my viewing of it but yeah its a bit whacky

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Just solo everything 🤯

whole river
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zeph is just thragg guys

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id love to just make the player weaker but i think that would suck for players

whole river
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bred to be the best shadestepper

hybrid gazelle
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Nah you should

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trust

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hybrid gazelle
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it would make thing more intresting

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ruby plover
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player should just die permanently...

whole river
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aledar got his bf taken, his archetype taken, and his life

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adding that next

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thats insane

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I really don’t think anyone pointing out it was a week and a half not 3 days did anything

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we shoulda added 10 more quests in roughworks with training arcs i guess

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oh yeah the powerscaling in apotheosis was crazy lmao rex holding her own against sovereign tasim and shooting HER MAJESTY out of the sky

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shes just goated like that

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Plot power

uneven basin
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I mean zeph feels strong but no anathema strong

whole river
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sorry zeph I dont wanna train you with ragni ball bro

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Ragni ball meta 🔥

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true

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ruby plover
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Rex being powerful without magic is sort of the point.
You dont need a miracle to be powerful

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it's peak

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real life et cetera et cetera

uneven basin
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Plus accuracy isn't a superpower

split night
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I think Tasim is just holding back imo?

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hot timber
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majin would've obliterated her

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Like, I buy that she's good enough with a now to shoot a static target like the queen in apotheosi

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I would hope tasim’s heart just wasn’t in it, cause bro should have cooked rex and been stronger in our fight. I guess he was kinda just toying with her most of the time

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hot timber
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sui killing gikyo makes way more sense since they were basically at 1hp

whole river
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we talk about tasim holding back but have we considered rex was holding back against him

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whole river
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in this essay i will show that tasim is a fraud like his bf-

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Rex literally has 0 reason to hold back, she doesn’t know tasim and believes she’s on the right side

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Tasim is conflicted and fighting his friend

whole river
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i know im teasing

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You know I like how "fast" gikyo dies it makes sui killing them more of an "oh shit" moment

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I’m ngl Tasim fight was kinda easy asf after Gikyu and Majin fight, and before the Queen

hot timber
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the wastelands will have another raid and the boss is rex

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Like all the fights in fruma were harder than tasim now that I think ab it

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i gotta fight zhiraok cuz when i beat him he was bugged

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whole river
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my sheer aura of architect trickster made him freeze

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true

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rex is actually the upgrader NPC

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whole river
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rex now has arrow tactical nuke

hot timber
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i went into her majesty with 3 pot charges lmfao

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oh eyah fair

whole river
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do you think they will open up the ocean barriers on the map or is it always going to be an awkward inland sea

uneven basin
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Inland sea forever methinks

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Ocean update in 2040

whole river
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i hate it so much

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With an ocean bigger than the current map

uneven basin
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What I want tho is for them to remove the invisible blocks all over the place 😭

whole river
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it 100% ragebaits me more than any hate post ngl

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i want bloomi

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personally

whole river
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it doesnt even need to be closed!

uneven basin
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Let level 1's scale the mountains into fruma

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hot timber
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so i actually would expect him to be first among the sovereigns

uneven basin
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I'm hoping for at least another passage into fruma from dernel with the wastelands update

hot timber
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even with tasim in the equation (zhiraok talk)

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true

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Explain why I died 2x to gikyu and 1x to majin

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I am kill scaling them and gikyu stronger

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hot timber
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but based on power (i dont think two's powers give her any combat abilities) its majin

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Actual difficulty wise queen>gikyu>majin>tasim

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I lowk 1st tried queen i think but mora 1 shotted me 💔

hot timber
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also majin definitely doesnt speak to two like she's a superior

split night
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I don't like people like that

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hot timber
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nah not really

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maybe the queen

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huh?

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I don’t even know what the fight is like

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same

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he is the most bugged one ive seen yet

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i thought Majin fight was pretty medium
I don't find it particularly hard or easy

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Literally made me hate zhiraok for having to kill him while he dabs for 15 minutes 6 times

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Literally coulda watched a movie in that time

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Majin was the fight I had the most tries on, but not because he was the hardest for me, but because of his instant kill attack, I didn't understand the mechanic until like 4 tries in

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Fire pot my goat saves me from 1shot ❤️‍🩹 🌹

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I backed into one

whole river
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Did anyone else just want to leave aihan to their fate

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Sorry I packed two sweaters for you and now it’s too heavy

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yes guy can ask for some soda when ur buying from the vending machine

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Talking Mushroom: "HEY HEY HEY, WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING? THERE'S A BOUNTY ON MY HEAD HERE SINCE... THE INCIDENT... CAN YOU JUST AVOID THIS PLACE LIKE YOU AVOID MY ADVICE?"
What if he aint just saying bs but its actually true and we'll learn about it in wastelands update 🙀

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If only we had gotten more mushroom dialogue 😔

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We have like 5 new in fruma

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Atleast

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He’s the man behind Ana

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Liff grinding peak 🥺

uneven basin
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Like only "place" triggered dialogue is the stump

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Im #1 liff grinder

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Like TIL there's 2 ones i didnt know about

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Wait so

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|| frog ||

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|| liff||

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Well 3 now it seems

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lol

uneven basin
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Wait what 😭

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I didn't know he has frog releated dialogue

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Then there's|| vending machine|| and I'm lost

uneven basin
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Damn i must check that

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Anyway list:
Leaf pile random
Mushroom from leaf piles (also random)
Stump
Croakin
Soda vending machine
Fruman underground

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Like this is only 2/5 of the areas

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Surely he has more

uneven basin
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Where in the fruman underground? Is it random chance ?

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I think so

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Its on the wiki

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The only one on wiki lol

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Morph

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Anyone got any place where revan (severed head guy) might have new dialogue? I tried the aelumia catacombs and the leaves base cemetary

narrow kestrel
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its a he?? i thought this mf was a woman with how it kept saying my pulse 😭

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he refer to us as my pulse is literally mean that we are his last ditch effort at saving him

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he's dying so

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I also thought orphion was female for the 1st time

split night
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i didn't thanks to the epic voice of wynn mod for first play through

narrow kestrel
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damn maybe lari was onto something

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Damn

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🤤

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Yo wat

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wtf it kicked me out of the room

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cant pet more than 3 times

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🤨

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xd

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Oh ig there's a cave called that

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I always think about in the citadel itself but its in mistwoods iirc, smh

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Btw did they say there would be fucking wild adasaurs in mistwoods? Where are they? 😭

hollow lynx
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I would end the world for some of that oprhion /j

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same lowkey

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/srs

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i would rather ||anathema||
not the queen, ||the moth||

late wave
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Do you guys think there will be a ||baby Saphanis plush|| and its just a dude

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Its just a slug cat

late wave
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If you make your Baby Dern Beast and Baby Orphion plushes kiss then little hearts come out of them and a Baby Queen plush spawns in

narrow kestrel
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hes funny

late wave
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Bro can you stop pulsing

dawn otter
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||So is this the bridge to the wastelands?||

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Its a bridge to there ye

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There are like 3 other proper entrances

hollow lynx
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Through desirable means

hot timber
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i like how after interacting with the blossom of blades for the first time sui is like "omg they're so concerned with useless stuff like rising bread prices" as if rising bread prices isnt an extremely serious thing

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ive seen the term manaweaver thrown about in this channel but i dont remember seeing it in any of the quests? where is this mentioned? also what's the canonical team for wtp? player, sui, zeph, tasim(?)

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No manaweaver is like

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first ever mention here I think

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Its mentioned at the very end of the questline

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though similar concept mention before

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orphion after convincing everyone that he's a good nice boy who deserves headpats instead of a primordial force who's bound to destroy the world

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oh you mean prior to Apotheosis

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lol

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But we are technically one aswell

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are we

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the thing is that if we are Two would have point out

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||Whatever Anatehma found is something that need to look closer so we defintiely are not manaweaver||

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we dont know what manaweaver yet

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so we cant write off the player being one

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it not outright comfirm

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that the problem

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That u use some1 elses mana instead of urs

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I thought its confirmed

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We can either use the power of our weapon or the strings in the air to power the amulet

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yes but that apply to shamanism as well

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but Sui is different

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we dont know how

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but wahtever she draw from is endless

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Like u dont need any ritual or weapon or shi

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U can just cast

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And dont drain

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again if player is manaweaver, then this similarity would point out along with Sui

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but it did not

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so I would not put bet on the fact that player is manaweaver

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if player is in fact manaweaver

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Did she point out anything about the player?

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then

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Yes

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She can use the strings in the air. She sees them and she can combine them. That is a manaweaver

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Two did point out the player

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this string in the air likely just normal thing mages can see

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Wtf i swear i dont remember this

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it take ANATHEMA to see who we are

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but Two can say Sui is manaweaver right away

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so again

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I would not say the player is manaweaver

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But they are

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Sui draw mana from the raging and endless ocean as she mention a lot

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Just not really

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"just not really"

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so they are not

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okay

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I mean just cuz two doesn't point it out, that doesn't mean

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The player is not

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then the story would have point out similarity with Sui and the player

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but it not

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If not the same term then smth similar then atleast

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there is never a scene where player and Sui share relation with another
in fact, it feel like whatever Sui has is way different from the player as she can felt the presence of corruption

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while the player do not

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I also think that

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I pretty sure the concept of magic being string also mention with Qira

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whats the canon team into wtp btw i know it includes the player zeph and sui but is tasim there

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I feel like

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the magic string thing is something that mages can use

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but i probably need to check

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The lore police is writing

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🥶

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Mages can seemingly use magic but they need to be extremely skilled to do it without a weapon

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yes

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I say people who use magic

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the cursed one literally talk about people who born with high magical innate

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are htose who do not need focus

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that the point

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it not being skilled

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Well ye manaweaver is more about mana and not the focus

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Im so sad now

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Blud blocked me 🥶 😂

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Man ppl are so sensitive

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again due to the lack of actual information about Manaweaver

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If other cursed could see the strings wouldn't they mention it? Just seems extremely unlikely

hybrid gazelle
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we are not really sure yes what they are truly are

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only the vague idea , theory, and speculation

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cause so far what been describe to us are more metaphor

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@hybrid gazelle thats crazy

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and analogy

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Sui can aperently see strings, ocean and all that

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actually wait

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Every other cursed one just focuses

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@drifting aurora now that you are here, is thread/string is something that normal people can see or just manaweaver

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Doesn't mention ANY of that

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I feel like it only mention by Sui but then player themselves talk about it

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Apparently last one was of "the old world''

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oh wait

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and you physically cant see them

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I though they asking about corruption LOL

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damn okay

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so string/thread just manaweaver thing then

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🤯

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also so now manaweaver make more sense

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yeah

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I dont think there ever evidence of people who manage to like

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good at magic enough that they dont need focus

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there only either you born with the need of focus

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or do not need focus

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Tefris my goat was surely a manaweaver

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Bob the goat used different focuses

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it one focus tho?

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Even though the player can't see the strings they can use them? Doesn't make any sense unless something is doing that for us

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And he was considered strong, so that mean sui is stronger 🤔

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The player just use magic like other people

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so I guess Sui just very powerful magic user that not only she can visualize magic

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but also feel corruption

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it almost like she is a walking resoance weaver LOL

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well not feel corruption

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sicne everyone can

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but like Sui certainly aware of their presence

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even if it not that strong

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Like its just magic

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no because if that the case Tasim would mention it

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In the air

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so it not ucrsed thing

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Sui jsut very very special case

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aka manaweaver

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hence the name

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she is a weaver

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Or do u mean the corruption?

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she probably similar to that of resoance weaver

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It is most certainly not a cursed thing

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according to grookwart

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water element often connect to magic itself

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so Sui describing raging ocean

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where she draw her power from

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could be the source of magic itself

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or whatever it is

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Surely it is Atlahas

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Does anyone know where you can find the Fruman transcriber

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The thing is that

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whatever deep inside the player defintiely is a spark

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||something akin to the realm beasts||

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||as Anathema often use the same words describe us with her and othe realm beasts||

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Beast of the earth like

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||such as blank slates and spark||

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||Though whatever this thing is hiding well from us||

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||Consider the implication the Weave describe to have mind or some sort of awareness with how it react to Anathema real form presence||

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||Maybe we could be something that the Weave directly responsible for?||

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does someone have the end of the War Torn Palace raid dialogue document I can look at?

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# tepid blade does someone have the end of the War Torn Palace raid dialogue document I can lo...
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thx

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||literally things that fuck over this theory is like||

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||the side story speculation make 0 sense post ensemble of hope but pre apotheosis||

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Is aledar ||alive chat?||

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no

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||but since that make 0 sense if you already complete EoH but not do Apotheosis||

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||sSO likely the wasteland story will not really have the Canopy acompany you||

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we have 13 main quests?

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what?

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I might be high then

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yeah you are high

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because there are 13 main quests

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||if we go to the idea of wasteland will be helping raiding the prison, it likely be a two parts quests||

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U forgot queen's recruit and journey home lol

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But a side quest for a major content expansion?

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Seems rather plain

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I did not say side quest

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I meant side story

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it entirely different thing

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and we did get comfirmation that wasteland will be a part of major update

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no the main focus

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and it will be just a REGION to Fruma

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which mean that we likely getting contents to that of a regions we have rn in Fruma

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What if the wastelands are part of an epilogue chapter on the fallout of the coup in apotheosis

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which often being 3-4 quests with half of the number being the side

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we are not getting level cap increase

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which then would make wasteland being endgame stuff really wrird

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so my theory that

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wait

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here the doc to my theory

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the thing is that

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I wonder if The Butterfly Effect chapter will be in dern alr

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Apotheosis is lvl 119 there's a lil bit of room for a couple quests

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you probably will see me talking about something I notice about hte story we currently at rn

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1 quest LOL

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which would be odd

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and I feel like they probably want to kept the citadel to be end game

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consider wasteland seems to describe as side story

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and not really matter much to the main story

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i kinda inclind to imagine it as like a side stuff

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Yeah kinda makes sense

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well if we know that wasteland will be about us ofc

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there probably a bit of player lore

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but like

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There's more XP holes in-between levels

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again I dont go count on it

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consider the uhh

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interview

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I think Wasteland being alternate regions to highland would be neat

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also

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the reason I really would like this idea

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is that we can have Fruma dungeon

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and not have it being like lesser than fruma raid

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since they keeping Wasteland for hte next major update

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which likely take a year

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Hoenstly I really liek the idea of dungeon rework

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honestly

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I really like the idea of dungeon being rework

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dungeon system ofc

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I dont think boss fight will change

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except hashr cause

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he look like that

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But that is just my opinion

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from what I heard so far

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it not like they do not want to do Fruma dungeon

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it more of the fact that they rather focus on Fruma raid

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rather than making raid and dungeon where both of them being half bake

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yea dungeons feel a lot less repeatable based on loot you gain

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so wasteland probably give them enough time to make fruma dungeon that fresh out

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so having wasteland being where the dungeon is could be cool

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and it would not feel like dungeon is a lesser version of raid

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tbut then again

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depend if we getting dungeon rework

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but like

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I coping hard

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that we gonna get dungeon rework

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because I reall

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MR BEAST???

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??? Mods, vaporize this bot

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the issue for me about dungeon rework is like

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What would be counter evidence? We don't find a spec of dust about our past in Fruma and we don't even really look for it. Meaning we were memory wiped the shit out or we were never from Fruma. I don't think it's a coincidence that we start off with Tasim and Aeleader aswell

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maybe they could it be more party friendly

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thx mods

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maybe they could make the gameplay less fucking boring

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as much as dungeon focus on simplicity

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it just

lusty glacier
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not replayable at all

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it not even replayable in fun way

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it just feel like lesser raid

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it depend but like

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do you really wanna play fucking EO

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again and again

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cause that highest dungeon we have

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Yeah ? I kinda like EO ._.

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And we grow to be even more powerful than them

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W EO

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well that fucking parkour broke me so I do not really

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Timelost sanctum is the goat

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Lets be real

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even then I think

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the reward for dungeon kinda

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confusing?

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the content is linear as hell but the thing they want you to keep

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PLAYING

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AND PLAYING

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until getting something

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that my issue with dungeon

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like you dont get good reward on first playthrough
EO kinda fix this with unlocking whole new area for us

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but like still

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also

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Dungeon just auraloss for the boss

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like

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fuckin the eye

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also most of the dungeon rewards are stuff you only do once

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just die and boom

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you go to the lobby

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and rainning emeralds

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like geniunely wtf was that

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like if i do eo for the wand i dont really have a reason to do it again after i get it

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IMAGINE IF ||ANATHEMA DIE AND THEN YOU GET KICK TO REWARD ROOM LOL||

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while raids i feel like have a more general pool of rewards which helps with replayability

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Doing eo 8 times for t13 tools 🔥

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THAT DUNGEON BOSS FOR LIKE

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100% OF THEM

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They have 0 death scene or aftermath

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TCC at least have brekaing point Epliogue

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so like it fine

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TNA is like

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IDk where else they cando with TNA

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The colossus tho...

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there literally nothing

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also

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keep in mind

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these raid were made in batch

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aka TCC, TNA, NOL, and NOTG are all remake together under one update

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WTP take a year and a half to develop

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so imagine making 4 fucking raids

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which is why the 4 raids before WTP is lower in quality

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because again

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they were made in batch

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there are massive quality jump between the other raids and WTP

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Like you beat eo and you barely get a world event's worth of emeralds / mats

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We don't even get to access our memories which I find extremely weird if we had them

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most of NOTG challenge feature

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someone stand on platform that either dont do anything or do all the work

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Ig wtp doesn't have platform room 🔥

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that pretyt much like NOTG

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ALSO as goated as WTP is it needs a few more rooms

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it very boring and al ot of waiting for people

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comparing to WTP

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where it feel like you actually work together

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but second room is planned to have alt

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so I happy to hear it

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I think the challenge I have issue the most

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is the navigation challenge

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like the first one

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I think the mobs in there is boring

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the lay out just too simple to take advantage of splitting party

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comparing mobs from the citadel to here it like night and day

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it definitely underwhelming

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I kinda wish we get to wfight Gendarme here

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I feel like fighting gendarmes in raid situation could be fun

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Gallehaut kinda

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It:d make the palace feel more defended too

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it is pretty coo lboss but like

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Where are the inquisitors damn

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Gallehaut is eaisly the most easiest fucking mobsd

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in Fruma

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I am not kidding

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which is sad cause like

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the design is cool

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it just the fact that Gallehaut fucking do nothing but being big damage sponge

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at least gendarme knigth got gimmick of shield stance that punish you for attacking

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or kenshi being more mobile

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Gallehaut just

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nothing???

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Why do inquis have so little significance in Fruma?

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They shout replace the raid final boss with Master Archer, that one Highlands World Event boss

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it's big disappointment too cause the fucking hurbert thing been hype up a lot

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so gallehaut just

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being this underwhelming is sad

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and they said satan is not real

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the issue with inquistor is that

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if you see them

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they suck at their job

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and consider how fruma is an asia region where not perfection result in death

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yeah

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The subway surf was gas

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you are not seeing a bad inquistor

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yeah that was few quest

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but like usually

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you wont see inquistor

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and also inquistor is like

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recently development concept later on in the story

hybrid gazelle
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there never actually eexist when they draft out Fruma story

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that why they barely appear than they should

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you likely see more of them Wasteladn tho

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The inquisitors feel like they could of had more presence with how they are talked about, and how they one of the first things you learn about Fruma

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yeah

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but like