#📚lore_discussion
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Woah
i interact with them most of the time and they defend her more than "goon" to her
good
thanks
I don't know what type of Lari fans you are talking with, but they aren't the ones im talking with
mf see one people ironically post thirst post about Lari for attention once
and decide that is all Lari fans are
Well i havent seen those with other characters really
ok five screenshots rn in the past day of lari fans being down bad go
just because you only see shit from surface level and judge it by that experience alone
Surely if u search up lari on some nfsw site, there are more about her than other wonncraft characters
how on earth is that on HER? or me?
Who said its on u
then why bring it up
It's uh
It's actually orphion ._.
Cuz lari fans are gooners 🤯
No
he tried it again
weak set up
no because he is a man LOL
Thanks for sharing ur knowledge
Why does that matter
Trashie just assumed their gender bruh
Np curiosity killed the cat and dragged It's corpse to hell
I met with multiple lari fans and barely of them are actual gooners so IDK what are you even talking about LOL
can you name these people
I wanna look through them
How curious do you have to get 😭
interesting that I only hear lari antis mention her NSFW
almost like there's an agenda here
Search it up on some nsfw site 🔥
they wont say anything cuz they have nothing
Whats even lari anti
Sorry for not being a gooner
do you have any other words you can use
or is that the extent
In this scenario, no
Please do
i doubt you do in other scenarios cuz cmon
they ruin Lari Fans reputation
This is such a display of ignorance
People have the right to thirst about characters
Why u insulting my english bro
Cmon
but syaing every fans of the said characters are these people
Insulting people just because you don’t like a character and they does nothing to support your argument
not only display ignoance but invalid other people opinion on characters
they want to get me in a gotcha moment and i just dont care
it's disgusting
Don't even group Lari fans with Lari gooners 😭
That's like, what Toriel fan and Toriel Gooners??
yes i am insulting you, i will say it to your FACE too
Literally
there are Lari fans and Lari gooners. They are completely seperate
Who am i insulting
it's just display of ignorant
When did i say i dont like lari
Starting to realise that
If u say so
hahahah
generalising people into a group it still dispaly of ignorance
bro doesnt even stand on business either
Your calling people “grooner” just because they like a character
like at least try to be serious about your lari hate instead of crying when getting pushhback
i respect honesty than whatever you're attempting to do
No, i did not call like #1 lari defender a gooner,
Looked upon the Horrors again
Yeah no it's mostly orphion
Even qira has more
Why
next they are gonna call Omniman fans Omniman gooner 😭
Seek help
we dont needt o know that
damn so lari haters lied again
Please
what a surprise!
Bro idc about lari
Curiousity
you say on discord in a discussion about her
Which is bad of me
Then why are you genelising Lari fans into one group
okay
but this does not really change
the fact that you generalising people who like Lari as gooners tho
that like
does not really change anything
backpedal speedrun
stand on your beliefs!
Curiosity does in fact kill the cat it seems
How did we go from lari is going to die to lari fans are gooners...
Im just saying lari has like the most gooners
IDk ask Pixel
yall its a game its not that serious
Evidence? I think not
lari death flag is an interesting convo
then what is this tho
I'm gonna opt out of the convo now before moderators come in
No way back out this one dude, just admit fault and say sorry, easy as that xd
ive seen way worse on here and the mods didnt step in, as long as it is related to the lore and doesnt devolve into personal crap-slinging
this is a wonderful lore discussion
Indeed
ho
its just a guy who doesnt play the game and wants to bait but no one here is biting
It's the same as "OoooOO you like fictional murderer?? YOU MUST BE EVIL" type shit conversation
Why do people call me evil for thinking genocide route is the best
snowgrave
I was gikyomaxxing yesterday to be fair
But those roosters needed to go
Snowgrave is even better
idk you seem to be biting a tad
😂
not biting the bait would just not be responding to him right
yall are just baiting each other
nah cuz ik no one is a gooner here
I was just counting lari gooners as lari fans, mb gng
you're just someone who cant stand on business smh
Tf does that even mean
I dont wanna argue
you have no beliefs of your own about lari is what i mean
like, thats just baiting again lol its not that serious
automod strike me down
damn these messages getting automodded
Every1 gets automodded here smh
Idk but I think it rude to generalizing people based on on their interest
Skinning a chicken is ridiculously fun btw
nah embarassing them is fun too
If anyone cared
Why did it take me so long to see the similarity
Majin is like Kefka from FF6... appearance-wise at least
its weird cuz automod has a 50% to remove a message if it says gooner
oh this time it didnt
My message was most gooners objectifying woman while fans love a character for their characteristic
that's the difference
we established there isnt even lari nsfw anyway so
orphion and qira take the cake apparently
No?
people have weird taste
but i won't judge xd
The guy just said orphion and qira has a lot/most
you know firsthand?
Stop baiting bro
this is hilarious
what if i said its not bait
but now imma say it is cuz you got caught
bet you a hundred roubles there's tons of lari nsfw if you search in all the wrong places
dunno anything about it
but it's the fucking wynncraft community
you saw day 1 fruma shouts
"Omg what are you talking about, how do you know there is orphion and qira nsfw ??!?!"
hmm i dont hate them though
so you did see some nsfw of her
Of who
honest i bet 10 stx there isnt more than 100
wynncraft is p tiny
Like i havent seen REAL nsfw of lari, just sexualized gifs
sureeee
Sure
😭
We all know
we know
You can admit it and say sorry
You do realize yoh could shut this whole arguement down by actually known shit?
And to answer your all question
Yes there is
Anyway
We move on from this
yeah but some people will probably make tons
like you know how Six loves drawing Orphion? I'll take that 10 stx bet that there's someone like that for lari nsfw
tasim nsfw???? you weird bro
But I recommend checking out tumble
who said nsfw
But this discord server is fine too
buddy was talking about nsfw 2 minutes ago and then said he "wanted more fanart"
:bartek:
not suspicious
says who
Noo we must discuss grootslang nsfw 🤑
fair tbh nobody here is looking at tasim nsfw
Seems like you have seen some
If you really want to talk about it
how far does aledar get if him and tasim switched places
He loses his pots and gets 1shotted 😂
gets hit by a cart in detlas and dies
its kinda funny hes the assassin when he tanked a lot more crap than tasim
He would be eliminated in the tournament
Player would become sovereign if tasim is the one dead in a journey further quest
he must be on trickster nulli build
Why
Both are weaker than player
Still tasim was chosen
i honestly don't see that cuz the player beat tasim too
Tumblr is fun I need to post my art there more
Huh
Aledar is with the resistance group, and he is stronger than everyone else except player
So the queen can only choose the player
Who's better assassin, him or zeph
Him
aledar can jedi spin into a brick wall and survive enough to get stabbed multiple times, and this was after the rest of the shenanigans of that quest
he might just tank zeph
Zeph been training 3 days
i think zeph tries to stab him and it just breaks (this is after aledar buffs himself with a hair loss potion)
The resistance’s progression in strength still makes 0 sense
Hair loss potion meta 🤑
There should have been a reason to delay the festival, maybe due to the terror attacks, giving them time to train
the storyline doesnt take place over 3 days
Nah we must stay in the same year
Then make it more clear
It is clear
i assumed it wasnt three days tbf
theres dialogue in the steel feather chapter that mentions the festival is in one week
I’m not saying literally days, but how many years of progress did they make in this time
That's mostly thanks to us tho
Bruh 3 days was a number thrown out, not a scientific measurement
1 week isn’t better
Showed him my meteor spam so he's better shadestepper, makes sense 
the player learned how to talk and instantly became the byleth of teachers
did you rush the quest, i think the story paced just fine doing everything else in the process
goated
1 week for steel feather, + what? 4-5 days in leaves chapter
Imaxe question which district in fruma got the best cuisine
the leaves are also probably just more suited for magic too
hmmmmmm
I think nothing can beat either Hyloch or Aspren
Roughworks probably
Aint they eatin bugs in auburn 😭 🙏
So a week and a half of training and zeph goes from scrub to endgame level threat, capable of being a meaningful threat against Anathema, worth bringing along?
i think we didnt have time to add all that we wanted but there were plans to have a bunch of like streetfood stuff in Roughworks
magic isnt linear no?
Obviously
I was under impression you like package meal and I was like "damn okay I did not expected that"
I'll be fr zeph is getting carried HARD in that raid
Zeph was capable with a dagger long before we arrived
does Roughworks have something similar to Mcdonald
When you said Roughwork, I though you would be saying those 7-11 meal package
roughworks food is healthier than mcdonalds lets be honest
Roughwork might have it rough but they got bomb food
OMG now you make me imagine they have like
Roughworkers putting the fries in the bag 🥀
grilled pork stick
Yee
That's actually really neat, like streetfoods in my country
street vendors sounds awesome tbh
@ruby plover these?
mhm!
DUDE ASIAN STREET FOOD ARE SO GOOD
Random kebab vendor 🤑
Dude
why is roughworks now my favorite area
this is thai pork stick
??? please tell me she crashes out in another questline after this
wtf are you talking about
shes so fun to watch
these are not random
i think tex had a bunch of ideas from korean streetfood
can you be respectful for fucking once
I need rough works to have street food vendor npcs now
yes but not at us
keep playing
W lari
lari my GOAT
I love Lari
Bruh like clearly not but even a music prodigy won’t be a world class pianist in a week and a half. Yes nothing is linear and people progress at different rates, hit blocks, have quick growths in strength, but even if Zeph was a prodigy, how is a week and a half enough time for zeph to be anything other than a liability to fight anathema
Never get to eat korean food
Well
I DID once???
it like at korean restruant when I was in Uni apartment
I htink it like
kimchi rice??
yeah kimchi rice
i mean us being there helps a LOT right?
I would assume that unless you are at a certain threshold of strength you would only be a liability to bring to that fight
I think this is fair, we have seen Sui developement a lot while Zeph got kinda thrown out of the window once we got to Timisca
because of uh, fanfic-like writing gay love story
we also tried to set Zeph up to practice literally daily. He is a very very hard worker.
- I made his fighting style very similar to how he would use his dagger. So its more of an extension of his blade skills
and he's been training with a blade since he was like 12
You can only make so much progress in a day
hook swords are great and we need them more in media
I really like that he is basically is a shadestepper archetype
lol
TBH I think one of the main issue i have with Zeph magic progression is
no fucking way he and Yuman can take down 3 wing knights
before they even put a scratch on two of them
😭
Yeah the wings knight moment is a bit
I think that one of the problem I have
he got that dog in him its kinda like how amadel loses to a player who at that point in time has dealt with local threats
I gotta be honest, Rex actually be able to stand against Tasim is gotta be kind of insane as well
that too but like
at the same time
I dont see who else would make it work
so like it fine
it at the end of the story
it fine
xd
Sui at least has the excuse of her op manaweaver powers, zeph lowkey is just a dude like “I trained really hard with a knife for a total of a week and a half, let’s go kill a god now”
I cant really imagine how it could have gone
In my hc, Tasim did not put all his heart into that fight
The player just solos everyone 🤯
she held her ground against empowered/butterfly Tasim btw, it's insane
we're just built different, literally
like canon in game
xd
Why even bring others to danger smh
i dont think tasim was trying his best in my viewing of it but yeah its a bit whacky
Just solo everything 🤯
zeph is just thragg guys
id love to just make the player weaker but i think that would suck for players
bred to be the best shadestepper
Zeph is immortal
it would make thing more intresting
Give us 6 different 99% true hp dmg 🤑
Him murdering a young girl isn't very in character for me tbh
player should just die permanently...
aledar got his bf taken, his archetype taken, and his life
adding that next
thats insane
I really don’t think anyone pointing out it was a week and a half not 3 days did anything
Actual hardcore mode :0
Linny Hich run
we shoulda added 10 more quests in roughworks with training arcs i guess
oh yeah the powerscaling in apotheosis was crazy lmao rex holding her own against sovereign tasim and shooting HER MAJESTY out of the sky
shes just goated like that
Plot power
I mean zeph feels strong but no anathema strong
yeah i just point that out
yeah thinking about it I am glad we sped it along
sorry zeph I dont wanna train you with ragni ball bro
Ragni ball meta 🔥
I GUESS that they could explain that the Anathema we fight isn't as strong as her peak beacause she share her power among her sovereign
From what I remember she was mostly running away from him no ?
he was blocking her hits but couldnt get any in
No just a reason the fest is delayed and an actual training quest, not just a few show and tell scenes like “wow I waved my dagger around for a week, look how op I am now” then an explanation of how much time passes before they continue the mission.
She just maxed her agility stat
true
she use archer signature move and use arrow bomb on him
Rex being powerful without magic is sort of the point.
You dont need a miracle to be powerful
it's peak
real life et cetera et cetera
Plus accuracy isn't a superpower
I think Tasim is just holding back imo?
Not like magic exists in real life
maybe tasim's just a fraud
majin would've obliterated her
Like, I buy that she's good enough with a now to shoot a static target like the queen in apotheosi
W majin
I would hope tasim’s heart just wasn’t in it, cause bro should have cooked rex and been stronger in our fight. I guess he was kinda just toying with her most of the time
Yeah but my point is more it's not that big a feat x)
sui killing gikyo makes way more sense since they were basically at 1hp
we talk about tasim holding back but have we considered rex was holding back against him
Wrong reply oops
in this essay i will show that tasim is a fraud like his bf-
Rex literally has 0 reason to hold back, she doesn’t know tasim and believes she’s on the right side
Tasim is conflicted and fighting his friend
i know im teasing
are you teasing the wastelands update
You know I like how "fast" gikyo dies it makes sui killing them more of an "oh shit" moment
yes, tasim asks us to join him in beating rex after she puts him in timeout
I’m ngl Tasim fight was kinda easy asf after Gikyu and Majin fight, and before the Queen
YOOO
the wastelands will have another raid and the boss is rex
Like all the fights in fruma were harder than tasim now that I think ab it
I struggled more on him than Majin 😭
i gotta fight zhiraok cuz when i beat him he was bugged
This time she doesn’t hold back
maybe they didnt wanna give tasim more hp than majin because the implication couldve been that tasim is stronger than majin
my sheer aura of architect trickster made him freeze
yeah, I feel like Tasim is holding back a lot
because you gotta remember that Tasim can legit super dash toward you in fight
what stopping him from doing just that to Rex
He's burger bro
She has unlocked “arrow bomb storm” with her new robo arm
I was thinking that it is probably because the Queen fight is right after his, so having two very hard bosses back to back with not time to restock would kind of suck
Arrow storm with arrow bomb effect is gonna obliterate anything in its path 😭
rex now has arrow tactical nuke
is there even time to restock?
i went into her majesty with 3 pot charges lmfao
The perfect attack for an evil terrorist
no. that why I said that you had no time to restock
oh eyah fair
do you think they will open up the ocean barriers on the map or is it always going to be an awkward inland sea
Inland sea forever methinks
Ocean update in 2040
i hate it so much
With an ocean bigger than the current map
What I want tho is for them to remove the invisible blocks all over the place 😭
it 100% ragebaits me more than any hate post ngl
it doesnt even need to be closed!
Let level 1's scale the mountains into fruma
I do think that once the main story is done (when ever that is) they might open up the oceans to give new regions to explore
I mean I’d be fine with that, she could have given tasim a bigger blessing for the mission she has for him, he’s not a normal sovereign. Also Majin’s whole thing is he can’t even use his full power without exploding, so he could just be stronger than majin is able to handle his blessing, even if majin has more potential.
#majinpotentialman
they need to give us dark souls 1 level skips
yeah but his thing is that he's an egotistic asshole and he can actually back up all his talk which means he's even worse
so i actually would expect him to be first among the sovereigns
I'm hoping for at least another passage into fruma from dernel with the wastelands update
even with tasim in the equation (zhiraok talk)
Nah majin is a good guy
true
Explain why I died 2x to gikyu and 1x to majin
Two is the first among the sovereign i think
Dont think its happening ngl
I am kill scaling them and gikyu stronger
I know 😔
maybe if you base it on how close she is to the queen
but based on power (i dont think two's powers give her any combat abilities) its majin
Actual difficulty wise queen>gikyu>majin>tasim
I hate Majin like a lot, not his characterization
just him as a person xd
I lowk 1st tried queen i think but mora 1 shotted me 💔
also majin definitely doesnt speak to two like she's a superior
I don't like people like that
Also majin ofc
Is he ever speak to anyone like they're superior really xd
Like that matters lol
I mean she has like the sling ring from doctor strange
zhiraok so easy he doesnt even get a mention
I think so
Two is like, the brain of the royalty so
majin's meteor shower genuinely oneshot me like twice 💔
He didn’t work all 6 times
huh?
Thats fine, when he dashes u thats where i die
I don’t even know what the fight is like
i thought Majin fight was pretty medium
I don't find it particularly hard or easy
Literally made me hate zhiraok for having to kill him while he dabs for 15 minutes 6 times
Literally coulda watched a movie in that time
Majin was the fight I had the most tries on, but not because he was the hardest for me, but because of his instant kill attack, I didn't understand the mechanic until like 4 tries in
Fire pot my goat saves me from 1shot ❤️🩹 🌹
The blue lasers got me the first time
I backed into one
Smartest wonncraft player
Did anyone else just want to leave aihan to their fate
Sorry I packed two sweaters for you and now it’s too heavy
yes guy can ask for some soda when ur buying from the vending machine
Talking Mushroom: "HEY HEY HEY, WHERE DO YOU THINK YOU'RE GOING? THERE'S A BOUNTY ON MY HEAD HERE SINCE... THE INCIDENT... CAN YOU JUST AVOID THIS PLACE LIKE YOU AVOID MY ADVICE?"
What if he aint just saying bs but its actually true and we'll learn about it in wastelands update 🙀
If only we had gotten more mushroom dialogue 😔
He’s the man behind Ana
Yeah but they're mostly niche
Liff grinding peak 🥺
Like only "place" triggered dialogue is the stump
You already got Lifff Pyle smh
Im #1 liff grinder
Im curious if there's more
Like TIL there's 2 ones i didnt know about
Wait what 😭
I didn't know he has frog releated dialogue
Then there's|| vending machine|| and I'm lost
He can talk to croakin
Damn i must check that
Anyway list:
Leaf pile random
Mushroom from leaf piles (also random)
Stump
Croakin
Soda vending machine
Fruman underground
Like this is only 2/5 of the areas
Surely he has more
Where in the fruman underground? Is it random chance ?
Morph
Anyone got any place where revan (severed head guy) might have new dialogue? I tried the aelumia catacombs and the leaves base cemetary
its a he?? i thought this mf was a woman with how it kept saying my pulse 😭
he refer to us as my pulse is literally mean that we are his last ditch effort at saving him
he's dying so
I also thought orphion was female for the 1st time
i didn't thanks to the epic voice of wynn mod for first play through
damn maybe lari was onto something
Damn
🤤
Yo wat
🤨
Smh
Whats aelumia catacombs?
Oh ig there's a cave called that
I always think about in the citadel itself but its in mistwoods iirc, smh
Btw did they say there would be fucking wild adasaurs in mistwoods? Where are they? 😭
I would end the world for some of that oprhion /j
i would rather ||anathema||
not the queen, ||the moth||
Do you guys think there will be a ||baby Saphanis plush|| and its just a dude
Its just a slug cat
If you make your Baby Dern Beast and Baby Orphion plushes kiss then little hearts come out of them and a Baby Queen plush spawns in
hes funny
Bro can you stop pulsing
||So is this the bridge to the wastelands?||
i like how after interacting with the blossom of blades for the first time sui is like "omg they're so concerned with useless stuff like rising bread prices" as if rising bread prices isnt an extremely serious thing
||It's to the prison so yeah||
🍞 🤑
pet the boy
ive seen the term manaweaver thrown about in this channel but i dont remember seeing it in any of the quests? where is this mentioned? also what's the canonical team for wtp? player, sui, zeph, tasim(?)
Its mentioned at the very end of the questline
though similar concept mention before
orphion after convincing everyone that he's a good nice boy who deserves headpats instead of a primordial force who's bound to destroy the world
Sui is mentioned being one
But we are technically one aswell
Btw ye the team is that
Two said Sui was a manaweaver right before the end of apotheosis
||Whatever Anatehma found is something that need to look closer so we defintiely are not manaweaver||
We seemingly kind of are
we dont know what manaweaver yet
Godweaver
so we cant write off the player being one
Aint it told
We can either use the power of our weapon or the strings in the air to power the amulet
yes but that apply to shamanism as well
but Sui is different
we dont know how
but wahtever she draw from is endless
again if player is manaweaver, then this similarity would point out along with Sui
but it did not
so I would not put bet on the fact that player is manaweaver
if player is in fact manaweaver
Did she point out anything about the player?
then
- Two would point htat out
- at some point, we would mention similarity with Sui
Yes
She can use the strings in the air. She sees them and she can combine them. That is a manaweaver
Two did point out the player
the issue with this is that since Fruma story is recently write where they get the magic system fully formed
this string in the air likely just normal thing mages can see
Anathema needs to take a very close look at us to find out what we are. So that may not bd noticable to two
Wtf i swear i dont remember this
the thing is that
damn
it take ANATHEMA to see who we are
wait when
I've never seen this
I would not say the player is manaweaver
But they are
Sui draw mana from the raging and endless ocean as she mention a lot
Just not really
then the story would have point out similarity with Sui and the player
but it not
If not the same term then smth similar then atleast
there is never a scene where player and Sui share relation with another
in fact, it feel like whatever Sui has is way different from the player as she can felt the presence of corruption
while the player do not
Two describes it as strings and we can use the strings. I think we are drawing power from a creature within us which allows us to be a manaweaver if we so wish
I also think that
I pretty sure the concept of magic being string also mention with Qira
The SOUL
Btw did this pop up for any1?
whats the canon team into wtp btw i know it includes the player zeph and sui but is tasim there
Are you sure? Also isn't that lore very old regardless?
but i probably need to check
He is
Mages use staves
Fruma so far seems to focus on recontextualize rather than recon
mages as in people who use magic
Mages can seemingly use magic but they need to be extremely skilled to do it without a weapon
I mean others can use magic too
yes
Where as sui just casually does that shit
I say people who use magic
No?
the cursed one literally talk about people who born with high magical innate
are htose who do not need focus
that the point
ok man. with the shit you were saying earlier today im no longer taking you seriously anyway
it not being skilled
Well ye manaweaver is more about mana and not the focus
Whatever that supposed to mean
Im so sad now
Blud blocked me 🥶 😂
Man ppl are so sensitive
again due to the lack of actual information about Manaweaver
If other cursed could see the strings wouldn't they mention it? Just seems extremely unlikely
we are not really sure yes what they are truly are
only the vague idea , theory, and speculation
cause so far what been describe to us are more metaphor
@hybrid gazelle thats crazy
and analogy
Sui can aperently see strings, ocean and all that
actually wait
Every other cursed one just focuses
@drifting aurora now that you are here, is thread/string is something that normal people can see or just manaweaver
Doesn't mention ANY of that
Also Two considers these manaweavers pretty rare
I feel like it only mention by Sui but then player themselves talk about it
Ye
Not just pretty rare, extremely so
Apparently last one was of "the old world''
Where does she mention that?
well the player says they do not see them when sui asks
oh wait
and you physically cant see them
I though they asking about corruption LOL
damn okay
so string/thread just manaweaver thing then
🤯
also so now manaweaver make more sense
I am fairly confident that is one of her lines of dialogue. I think it's at the end of apothesis
If I remember correctly when John Wynncraft talked about this they say Tasim was one of these
yeah
I dont think there ever evidence of people who manage to like
good at magic enough that they dont need focus
there only either you born with the need of focus
or do not need focus
Ah right
Tefris my goat was surely a manaweaver
Bob the goat used different focuses
it one focus tho?
Even though the player can't see the strings they can use them? Doesn't make any sense unless something is doing that for us
And he was considered strong, so that mean sui is stronger 🤔
The player just use magic like other people
so I guess Sui just very powerful magic user that not only she can visualize magic
but also feel corruption
Why doesn't it make sense lol
it almost like she is a walking resoance weaver LOL
well not feel corruption
sicne everyone can
but like Sui certainly aware of their presence
even if it not that strong
Because then every cursed one could atleast use the strings
They do.. ?
Like its just magic
no because if that the case Tasim would mention it
In the air
so it not ucrsed thing
Sui jsut very very special case
aka manaweaver
hence the name
she is a weaver
Or do u mean the corruption?
she probably similar to that of resoance weaver
It is most certainly not a cursed thing
Zeph did the same, he couldn't see them but could, like, feel them or something
according to grookwart
water element often connect to magic itself
so Sui describing raging ocean
where she draw her power from
could be the source of magic itself
or whatever it is
Didn't he have a weapon/crystal in every one of the occasions he uses magic?
Surely it is Atlahas
Does anyone know where you can find the Fruman transcriber
Gale in qira hive
talk to Gale after House divded discovery
Oh you're talking about the player powering the amulet without using the weapon? I didn't choose that option
Yeah, I think WE cannot use the skill of manaweaving, but something or someone inside of us does it for us
The thing is that
whatever deep inside the player defintiely is a spark
||something akin to the realm beasts||
||as Anathema often use the same words describe us with her and othe realm beasts||
Beast of the earth 
||such as blank slates and spark||
||Though whatever this thing is hiding well from us||
||Consider the implication the Weave describe to have mind or some sort of awareness with how it react to Anathema real form presence||
||Well, what I was thinking is that the spark she mention could have been something she had seen someone else before, not just herself, someone very powerful, unless I am remembering the dialogue incorrectly||
||Maybe we could be something that the Weave directly responsible for?||
does someone have the end of the War Torn Palace raid dialogue document I can look at?
Note: Underlined text is shaking Ahahahahaha… so… you would chase me even here… to extinguish the spark. So long… I spent searching for a way to break free… from the crimson skies… the sulphurous air… Was it fate? For me to die here… atop the Crown of this monument… to my failures? Bleached ...
thx
||literally things that fuck over this theory is like||
||the side story speculation make 0 sense post ensemble of hope but pre apotheosis||
Fucks over what theory?
Is aledar ||alive chat?||
no
no, he's dead
||Theory that wasteland will be a side story where you help the Canopy break into the prison||
Y did I hear some people saying he’s back
got it
||but since that make 0 sense if you already complete EoH but not do Apotheosis||
Who tf said that lol
||sSO likely the wasteland story will not really have the Canopy acompany you||
I don't think wastelands can be a side story. Maybe im remembering wrong but there is supposed to be 13 main quests, currently we have 11
there is 13 main quests?
I might be high then
yeah you are high
because there are 13 main quests
||if we go to the idea of wasteland will be helping raiding the prison, it likely be a two parts quests||
U forgot queen's recruit and journey home lol
I did not say side quest
I meant side story
it entirely different thing
and we did get comfirmation that wasteland will be a part of major update
no the main focus
and it will be just a REGION to Fruma
which mean that we likely getting contents to that of a regions we have rn in Fruma
What if the wastelands are part of an epilogue chapter on the fallout of the coup in apotheosis
which often being 3-4 quests with half of the number being the side
Honestly I feel like
we are not getting level cap increase
which then would make wasteland being endgame stuff really wrird
so my theory that
wait
Wasteland Wasteland is a region in Fruma province that will be featured as part of a future update. Its absence in the Fruma expansion was due to the fact that the team deems the region to be not important to the main story of Fruma. What we know - Wasteland has a Deraj prison, ruled by Sove...
here the doc to my theory
the thing is that
I wonder if The Butterfly Effect chapter will be in dern alr
Apotheosis is lvl 119 there's a lil bit of room for a couple quests
you probably will see me talking about something I notice about hte story we currently at rn
yeah but then we get like
1 quest LOL
which would be odd
and I feel like they probably want to kept the citadel to be end game
consider wasteland seems to describe as side story
and not really matter much to the main story
i kinda inclind to imagine it as like a side stuff
I mean we still don't know our past
Yeah kinda makes sense
well if we know that wasteland will be about us ofc
there probably a bit of player lore
but like
There's more XP holes in-between levels
real
true, particularly in the higher level region
the reason I really would like this idea
is that we can have Fruma dungeon
and not have it being like lesser than fruma raid
since they keeping Wasteland for hte next major update
which likely take a year
Hoenstly I really liek the idea of dungeon rework
honestly
I really like the idea of dungeon being rework
dungeon system ofc
I dont think boss fight will change
except hashr cause
he look like that
I think the only possible way that we are still from fruma is that we were part of the wastelands society before the incident.
But that is just my opinion
from what I heard so far
I think it's the last boss not to have been updated with rekindled so most probably yeah
it not like they do not want to do Fruma dungeon
Eh
it more of the fact that they rather focus on Fruma raid
rather than making raid and dungeon where both of them being half bake
yea dungeons feel a lot less repeatable based on loot you gain
so wasteland probably give them enough time to make fruma dungeon that fresh out
Forgery rework 🤑
so having wasteland being where the dungeon is could be cool
and it would not feel like dungeon is a lesser version of raid
tbut then again
depend if we getting dungeon rework
but like
I coping hard
that we gonna get dungeon rework
because I reall
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what could they change for dungeons?
the issue for me about dungeon rework is like
a lto of things
What would be counter evidence? We don't find a spec of dust about our past in Fruma and we don't even really look for it. Meaning we were memory wiped the shit out or we were never from Fruma. I don't think it's a coincidence that we start off with Tasim and Aeleader aswell
maybe they could it be more party friendly
thx mods
maybe they could make the gameplay less fucking boring
as much as dungeon focus on simplicity
it just
could you elaborate on the last sentence?
not replayable at all
Tbh idk
Depends on the dungeon to me
it depend but like
do you really wanna play fucking EO
again and again
cause that highest dungeon we have
We start off with 2 people who grow to be extremely powerful curses ones
Yeah ? I kinda like EO ._.
And we grow to be even more powerful than them
W EO
well that fucking parkour broke me so I do not really
The last dungeon is kinda fun, but just that one
yea but dont we know their histories to a degree? like both of them being from auburn and whatnot
I'll say adding back the fourth parkour was a mistake
the content is linear as hell but the thing they want you to keep
PLAYING
AND PLAYING
until getting something
that my issue with dungeon
I didn't complete EO until like two weeks ago because of that damn parkour section, I completed all of Fruma before I finished EO
like you dont get good reward on first playthrough
EO kinda fix this with unlocking whole new area for us
but like still
also
Dungeon just auraloss for the boss
like
fuckin the eye
also most of the dungeon rewards are stuff you only do once
just die and boom
you go to the lobby
and rainning emeralds
like geniunely wtf was that
like if i do eo for the wand i dont really have a reason to do it again after i get it
IMAGINE IF ||ANATHEMA DIE AND THEN YOU GET KICK TO REWARD ROOM LOL||
while raids i feel like have a more general pool of rewards which helps with replayability
Doing eo 8 times for t13 tools 🔥
That's kinda TCC / TNA
TCC at least have brekaing point Epliogue
Well mostly TNA
Greg is just a dude, so makes sense
IDk where else they cando with TNA
Seems very weird that they would take 2 cursed ones and whatever we are and put them in the same caravan. Almost as if they wanted something from one of those people in the future. I may be yapping too much, but hopefully it makes sense
The colossus tho...
arent all fruma to wynn soldiers cursed ones?
aka TCC, TNA, NOL, and NOTG are all remake together under one update
Well, they probably do that all the time
WTP take a year and a half to develop
They dont know about us
so imagine making 4 fucking raids
no, some are just criminals, but they learn magic later
which is why the 4 raids before WTP is lower in quality
because again
they were made in batch
Fair fair I don't like dungeon rewards either
there are massive quality jump between the other raids and WTP
were they lower quality? i admit i havent done wtp much but was it noticably different?
Like you beat eo and you barely get a world event's worth of emeralds / mats
okay I will draw example
We don't even get to access our memories which I find extremely weird if we had them
I dont know about what they saying either lol
most of NOTG challenge feature
someone stand on platform that either dont do anything or do all the work
Ig wtp doesn't have platform room 🔥
that pretyt much like NOTG
ALSO as goated as WTP is it needs a few more rooms
it very boring and al ot of waiting for people
comparing to WTP
where it feel like you actually work together
TBH yeah
I was surprised there is only one 2 and 3 rooms
but second room is planned to have alt
so I happy to hear it
I think the challenge I have issue the most
is the navigation challenge
like the first one
I think the mobs in there is boring
the lay out just too simple to take advantage of splitting party
comparing mobs from the citadel to here it like night and day
it definitely underwhelming
I kinda wish we get to wfight Gendarme here
I feel like fighting gendarmes in raid situation could be fun
Gallehaut kinda
It:d make the palace feel more defended too
it is pretty coo lboss but like
Where are the inquisitors damn
Gallehaut is eaisly the most easiest fucking mobsd
in Fruma
I am not kidding
which is sad cause like
the design is cool
it just the fact that Gallehaut fucking do nothing but being big damage sponge
at least gendarme knigth got gimmick of shield stance that punish you for attacking
or kenshi being more mobile
Gallehaut just
nothing???
Why do inquis have so little significance in Fruma?
They shout replace the raid final boss with Master Archer, that one Highlands World Event boss
it's big disappointment too cause the fucking hurbert thing been hype up a lot
so gallehaut just
being this underwhelming is sad
Master Archer on Wooly Rhino
and they said satan is not real
the issue with inquistor is that
if you see them
they suck at their job
and consider how fruma is an asia region where not perfection result in death
yeah
The subway surf was gas
you are not seeing a bad inquistor
yeah that was few quest
but like usually
you wont see inquistor
and also inquistor is like
recently development concept later on in the story
there never actually eexist when they draft out Fruma story
Real talk why not put master [class] mobs in the navigation room
that why they barely appear than they should
you likely see more of them Wasteladn tho
The inquisitors feel like they could of had more presence with how they are talked about, and how they one of the first things you learn about Fruma