📚lore_discussion

[mossy badge]

Ik

[regal spire]

I haven’t a clue, since it doesn’t work consistently anymore

[rotund gust]

idk go get a new head or something maybe it broke

[regal spire]

It might not even work

[mossy badge]

It prolly still works

[winged narwhal]

Your heads been away from the Pit too long

[fallow heart]

Can't wait for dern to just be a DMV office or something

[whole river]

It’s kinda funny that amadel in essence has final boss vibes but he’s kinda your first major achievement excluding dungeon bosses

[rotund gust]

dunk him in the wellspring

see what happens

[regal spire]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-workplace-hang-on-ill-transfer-your-call-support-gif-25638217

[steep forum]

to be fair amadel is very "final boss of wynn" coded but thats because the wynn province has

three quests that could all count as the "Final quest that closes the Wynn story"

[regal spire]

Should Wynn Excavation include Aledar and Tasim

[winged narwhal]

Was the old decay lore actually that villagers were so greedy they invited in the darkness

[regal spire]

Should it include any story characters at all

[winged narwhal]

They’ll probably add the Glup Shittos

[regal spire]

It was

The decay formed from money money money

[fallow heart]

Please
I need to see them more than in 3 quests

[hasty beacon]

We need more aledar and tasim quests

[hybrid gazelle]

we NEED corrupted focus storyline man

[regal spire]

And the elves hated money so much that they forbid banks

[hybrid gazelle]

we really nee dit

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1015394899497058304/1489172687577153546/ezgif-4b87bb36c46a746a.gif

[regal spire]

And made Aldorei’s secret 1 and 2 fucking miserable

[rotund gust]

wynn feels like reincarnation, temple of legends and wynnexcavation site D that all feel like conclusions to the story

well actually ToL doesn't

but its a whole province wide fetch quest

[steep forum]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/773108055558455296/1124245709873488032/stay_mad.gif

[regal spire]

I wish this was an ingame emote

[steep forum]

tol is kind of it but mostly through its old reqs of six quest items lol

[fallow heart]

What tasim thinks happened in SE

[steep forum]

and province wide fetching yea

[whole river]

Ocean storyline when

[steep forum]

reincarnation would work if we cared more about bob outside of, like, bob's lost soul

[uneven basin]

It used to be no ?

[regal spire]

The ocean should totally be Lucio’s territory

[fallow heart]

Personally I loved the old req system but I see why you would remove it

[steep forum]

and then wynnex is wynnex. WynnEx is truly WYnnex. and Wynnex... is not an argument.

[rotund gust]

i feel like reincarnation functions best as like "the culmination" of the wynn province. Just because its proving that we are the next hero of wynn

[fallow heart]

Yeah

[rotund gust]

wynnex feels too self contained to do it

[warm flicker]

i think the fruma questline should have been more like wynnex, the best questline in the game

[uneven basin]

And then you have the entamis quest

[rotund gust]

and ToL is just too boring to do it

[winged narwhal]

I have something to admit

[steep forum]

i was not allowed to put a variant of the wynnex b puzzle in every fruma story quest

[fallow heart]

Exactly
Wynnex needs to have more influence on the actual province

[regal spire]

The problem with reincarnation is that it’s a fake quest with a fake Bob and fake everything

[winged narwhal]

I’ve never done Reincarnation

[whole river]

I’m gonna admit something, Aledar cheated on Tasim with me

[warm flicker]

salted is the real dictator, not Her Majesty

[rotund gust]

i mean, presumably it is still a trial made by bob, or atleast commisioned by him and made by Nilrem

[regal spire]

The true hero of Wynn can’t be some dude who beat a glorified training dummy with spells

[steep forum]

who do you think her majesty's behaviour was based on smh...

[rotund gust]

salted is actually a moth underneath the cow shell

[winged narwhal]

Is bovemism still canon?

[regal spire]

A true hero must be someone who potentially sacrifices themselves for the wellbeing of Wynn

[rotund gust]

slykaar

[regal spire]

That’s what Wynn Exc feels like, imo

[mossy badge]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/262012380878340096/1262050065984393227/327A573D7B2FC98D65A0D3E444BAC7BF8CBE1946.gif

[steep forum]

the forum wipe from a decade ago is just as bad as what happened ||at the start of the New Age where auburn was Washed Away||

[regal spire]

Uh oh

[mossy badge]

This is a true hero

[fallow heart]

Collecting the stuff needed is a little boring but fighting bob is fun and worth

[uneven basin]

That's why theorick is the GOAT

[steep forum]

yea wynnex has the most concrete ending with you named the province's protector

it's just too bad wynnex is so. disconnected

[rotund gust]

theorick is the goat

all of the twains are

[regal spire]

Theo is a 🐐

[hybrid gazelle]

also btw lierally nobody would knwo of this feat beside Ragni king

[steep forum]

a true remnant of when every quest added had to be the most amazing lore-important thing ever

[rotund gust]

mf rickeo burning away his life to protect the jungle

[hybrid gazelle]

Ngl now that you mentio nit

[rotund gust]

marius really did succeed

[hybrid gazelle]

why the fuck is that quest is where player get renown as province protector

why cant it be fucking

[steep forum]

yea sorry we die in the dark so that you can live in the light

[hybrid gazelle]

fighting big bad corrupted

[regal spire]

Every quest added now has an actual conclusion to it, as opposed to “oh, thanks for getting me this book”

Wynn exc stands out as a real conclusion, in a sea of old quests

[steep forum]

it's true! wynnex was super impressive when first added

[uneven basin]

You know a thing that always bothered me about wynnex d is that the king doesn't get new dialogue agyerwards

[steep forum]

but time marches on

I miss my 8-year old son...

[regal spire]

It’s so funny to me how so many quests back then felt like going into a haunted mansion

[steep forum]

Not to worry , for it all ends with 4,

[warm flicker]

fruma needs more slab spam builds, it looks too unique, too vibrant

[uneven basin]

I can confirm back when I first joined it was the only "big" story quest and it blew my mind

[regal spire]

You know? Like how it’s just a set path with a dude that yells at you

[steep forum]

House of Twain is perhaps the last great quest

[regal spire]

And then it ends

[steep forum]

but yeah true

[regal spire]

I should’ve been more specific with what I meant by haunted mansion lol

[steep forum]

im so sad my goat Ooni is mentioned literally nowhere in any of fruma's resistances

fetch quest design best quest design tbh

we had some bangers like macabre masquerade - hallowynn 2014

[hybrid gazelle]

anwyay amadel

go

[steep forum]

but we also had collecting mashed insects for the almuj bank

[regal spire]

Only Macabre was a good fetch quest. The others were mid

[rotund gust]

all 3 twains we know the fate of did good, or atleast tried to

Rickeo kills himself protecting the jungle from a corrupted hoard
Theorick tries to stop corruption, not knowing that could never have worked, and takes himself out and freezes over nesaak, inadvertently killing hundreds but also protecting the region from further corruption indefinitely
Mael uses his spirit magic to continue living long enough to train the next hero of wynn

[steep forum]

so id wager that like

[rotund gust]

also wait

[regal spire]

Fetch quests now are pretty good, though

[rotund gust]

so does bak’al kill dwendle?

[regal spire]

Objectively very goated

[winged narwhal]

The thing I missed the most in Fruma was quest helmets

[steep forum]

i still have a stack of hourglass sand from sister city

[regal spire]

Fucking useless quest that infuriated me back then

[fallow heart]

Sister city was so funny

Speed check

[rotund gust]

since lusucuo library says at least one twain died to bak’al.
It wasn’t theorick or mael, and rickeo presumably kills himself. Unless bak’al was leading the army that rickeo repelled it has to be dwendle

[warm flicker]

i miss the selchar christmas quest

[uneven basin]

Old wynncraft would have you wear a worker helmet for half the rough works

[regal spire]

No sea skipper, so I hope you liked buggy asf pre 1.9 boats

[steep forum]

sister city limped so tower of amnesia could run

[regal spire]

And you’re level 28, so you’re not gonna spam movement spells

[steep forum]

i love getting every single wynn province scroll

[whole river]

No

[regal spire]

Lmao, filtered

[fallow heart]

And it would have been peak

[regal spire]

Sister city slipped into a coma so tower of amnesia could die in a house fire

[whole river]

Bakal can only kill farmers

[rotund gust]

so true

[whole river]

So anyone above citizen level can low diff him

[rotund gust]

Bak’al’s Dwendlestruction

[regal spire]

Fetch quests like that, back then, were literally the most infuriating thing in the game

[steep forum]

FACT: The only reason Bak'al hasn't returned to fruma is because every single NPC there could no-diff him. Have you SEEN the roughworks mobs?

[uneven basin]

Fuck I remember getting mauled by wolves and losing all my soul points to this fuckass quest

[regal spire]

The ones that literally forced you to just “buy an item from a town, go back”

[rotund gust]

bob core

[regal spire]

Not even fight a cool enemy or something

[whole river]

I think Bakal gets taken out by the average Fruma lumberman

[drifting aurora]

fuma

[steep forum]

shoutouts to when dwelling walls (well it had a different name back then) needed night btw

to like. access

[whole river]

Soul points oh god

[steep forum]

theres some true art lost to time from ancient wynn quests

[fallow heart]

This is true
Lame ass couldn't even fight base tasim and had to send us to do it

[steep forum]

investigating this.

[whole river]

Who remembers the legendary lusoco and dernal LRs😆

[rotund gust]

you all should remake wynnex and put dwendle in it

[steep forum]

i used to lootrun lusuco LOL

[regal spire]

There were so few quests before 1.14 (even then, 1.14 didn’t have enough), so getting a quest like sister city, or ToAmnesia, or even Lost Soles was just so infuriating

[rotund gust]

dwendle boss fight in wynnex site b

[whole river]

Aka chest camping on a less busy night so you would get max loot

[regal spire]

Oml, anyone remember the old The Passage quest?

[steep forum]

oh no

[uneven basin]

Wait it wasn't always the altar ?

[steep forum]

tbh ToL was still the best fetch quest. go get 64 rotten flesh, leather (i love katoa ranch), and blaze powder (i love roots of corruption)

[regal spire]

It was “give me 48 zombie eyes”

[winged narwhal]

Collect sixteen Essential Toiletries by killing Roughworks mobs to allow Aihan to move into the Steel Feather base

[regal spire]

Like, LITERALLY just a mini quest

[steep forum]

[regal spire]

Go sit in a cave and farm level 60 zombies

Good quest

[steep forum]

i heart herb cave

[regal spire]

Not even a fun cave, like that

[rotund gust]

hypixel skyblock core

[steep forum]

you know we could probably punt wirt across the passage

[regal spire]

Just a cave with boring asf zombies that slowly lumber towards you

[steep forum]

even at level 57

[uneven basin]

Don't forget to throw them into a hopper below a carpet

[regal spire]

Wurt core

[steep forum]

You mentioning old passage gave me a wonderful idea

[rotund gust]

no

[regal spire]

No

Don’t do it

No ideas

[steep forum]

I should make the boss altar take 48 eyes specifically when you are doing the passage quest

[regal spire]

That’s not too far off from what it actually costed

I think it was 16? 28?

[rotund gust]

28 i think

that sounds right

[uneven basin]

Fruma altar should require 16 ribbons

[rotund gust]

maybe 18

[regal spire]

That feels right, but also feels really not right

[steep forum]

Ildan: Oh! So you want to become a member of this town?
Ildan: You will have to help us first, of course!
Ildan: These pesky zombies are getting closer to our town everyday, could you bring me 48 zombie eyes? it will prove you're worthy of town membership!
Ildan: I'll make sure to give you access to The Passage if you do so. Good luck!

[regal spire]

Ah, those pesky zombies

So pesky

[rotund gust]

The Passage TM

[regal spire]

Who the FUCK calls literal undead monsters “pesky”

[coarse elk]

pesky

[uneven basin]

How far have we come

[rotund gust]

I’ll make sure to give you access to Titlecard if you do

[coarse elk]

-# bird

[rotund gust]

https://tenor.com/view/dhmis-pesky-bee-gif-26948046

[regal spire]

Literally the only thing I could think of

That and pesky plumbers

[rotund gust]

i’m so glad

[steep forum]

how many of fruma's quests actually namedrop the quest name in dialogue

surprisingly few right?

[regal spire]

I thought all of them did?

[steep forum]

...do any?

[fallow heart]

Type of BS rurie would pull

[steep forum]

if this is a joke about "new quest started" being a dialogue line

[rotund gust]

this truly was the apotheosis of our journey

[uneven basin]

Come on playername, we are the queen's recruit now

[regal spire]

Don’t you remember? Elise says “I must not forget… Syndra! My missing piece!”

[rotund gust]

Gikyo is showing us their True Colors

[steep forum]

sorry b ut i also have inquisitor induced dementia

[regal spire]

Gikyo: Ah! So glad I can finally show you my “true colors”!

And then they sneakily smirk at us from their portrait

[rotund gust]

wow this train ride has gone Off The Rails

[uneven basin]

"I'm sorry Arnol, in this world, only the strong survive"

[steep forum]

Yusanu: playername, Sui... are either of you sure where we're going? With the forest so Shrouded in Mist?

[rotund gust]

minecraft movie core

[regal spire]

Man, our poor village is really under supplied rn

[fallow heart]

Sui: "man this whole place is shrouded in mist"

[steep forum]

Abramod: "Then please come and listen. Listen to this pathetic nameless outcast's tale of Burning Bonds."

[rotund gust]

playername are you… The Cursed One?

[regal spire]

Sui: To beat the Queen, we’ll really need an Ensemble of Hope rn

[steep forum]

"Welcome to the Festival of the Wicker, where we can perform Celebrations in Smoke!"

[regal spire]

Majin: This is it! My apotheosis!

[uneven basin]

"player, follow that racoons, you'll have to go through the pipes"

[fallow heart]

"together, WE are the ENSEMBLE OF HOPE!"

[steep forum]

this is some real 2020 and below core dialogue i wont lie

[regal spire]

Man, this fog is so dense, like it’s shrouded in mist

[winged narwhal]

Wow, Maury, our plans for today have really gone off the rails

[rotund gust]

Sui: Moras gone! Rex and Zeph are captured! It’s like this is an Overture to Dispair!

[regal spire]

Unironically what a 1.14 quest would say

[edgy loom]

better than "do you like guys"

[regal spire]

Yuman: I have a song for times like this: my overture to despair!

[steep forum]

someone was called out

[edgy loom]

yeah the WOKE CT managing wynncraft, thanks for the reminder

[regal spire]

Linton should’ve been crushed by a giant bottle of Soylent ngl

[steep forum]

notice how the wokest update is also our best yet ^^

[rotund gust]

Soosu: I can’t feel yusanu! can’t love! This is The Price of Ingenuity!

[steep forum]

let it be known i very intentionally had linton literally flung out with a bounce in that one queens recruit cutscene. it felt fitting for him

[regal spire]

You mean when he’s being kicked out the room?

[fallow heart]

"we must stand strong. Together, we are a solidarity of steel"

[steep forum]

yes.

could have just made him walk but like. come on

[rotund gust]

can you put linton in the torture nexus?

[regal spire]

I thought Linton felt very bouncy in that scene

[restive yacht]

🫃

[rotund gust]

i want that twink obliterated

[regal spire]

Could you potentially string him up on a crucifix in Aldorei? Idk why there, just feels funnier

[whole river]

ROL needed to be more woke is what I’m hearing

Dullathey/them

[steep forum]

unfortunately i havent had the chance to read "dont invent the torture nexus" as an instruction manual yet

[uneven basin]

Gavelcore fruma remake where every cutscene is armor stands

[edgy loom]

https://giphy.com/gifs/brainrot-patar-patarlegend-qrdf8B7zFe1atyCxpD

[regal spire]

For a block game, bros the roundest faced person in Wynn, ngl.

[fallow heart]

Best idea yet

[regal spire]

Got that cal arts jawline

[steep forum]

https://tenor.com/view/shh-cats-gif-10955612

[rotund gust]

What wynncraft twinks need to be obliterated?
Maxie, Zeph, Linton

[whole river]

I still find it funny that for the SE expedition they really thought like 3 people was going to cut it

[fallow heart]

Its really funny doing the quests and seeing the evolution of how wynncraft does cutscenes

[rotund gust]

who else

[faint hill]

Hello,I m new

[regal spire]

Zeph’s fine

[fallow heart]

The player

[steep forum]

1k meters under cutscene is so good

[regal spire]

I like Zeph

[rotund gust]

no zeph is a twink

[restive yacht]

tbf this is also the goriest update yet

[rotund gust]

needs to get blown to smithereens

to shreds

[regal spire]

Zeph is not just any Twink, though

[whole river]

Controversial opinion, the troms bridge boss

[uneven basin]

Going from dwarves and doguns to 1000 meters under is funny

[rotund gust]

… rickeo?

[uneven basin]

Need to do a Majin

[restive yacht]

can we talk about those gendarme soldiers taking the S* route?

[whole river]

Only in corrupted form

[hasty beacon]

Dern must beat it on that front

[regal spire]

Majin Boom not gonna lie

[restive yacht]

well that's not considered seppuku

[rotund gust]

the huh

[winged narwhal]

I think Fruma pales in comparison to the tremendous changes of 1.6

[uneven basin]

Wait actually Majin is the Twink that got obliterated

Like litteraly

[regal spire]

https://tenor.com/view/caine-majin-buu-gif-27637723

[restive yacht]

yea, big bros really take the seppuku way

[whole river]

Mmmm corruption

[rotund gust]

i think we need your definition of twink

cause

[whole river]

Aren’t all the old models the same size

[restive yacht]

oh

[whole river]

It’s call the Provinces of Twynnk for a reason

[rotund gust]

yeah but he's partially bald and had a beard before he died

[restive yacht]

what's that? is that a new kind of chocolate bar?

[rotund gust]

thats niot a twink

[regal spire]

Ig he’s kinda twinky, in the sense that there isn’t much left of his body, and he’s flaming

[whole river]

Since he’s corrupted technically he’s immortal so now he’s young

[rotund gust]

twink = skinny. Ok so just burn away half my body

[restive yacht]

uhm

[rotund gust]

wait when is this

[regal spire]

Where did twink even come from, cause I would’ve sworn that word was to describe stars

[restive yacht]

Royal alchemists

[rotund gust]

oh i haven't done that WE yet

[restive yacht]

twinkle twinkle little star

[rotund gust]

that would be why

[regal spire]

At least paper Mario had a lil star named twink

Which is a very funny read now

[rotund gust]

one day you will be relevant

one day

[restive yacht]

mario had a twink in his pocket lol

[uneven basin]

Barracks WE has them too

[regal spire]

Light teal Theorick

[restive yacht]

yeeee idk how to feel about them, cause they are cool and LORE talks

[steep forum]

perhaps so

[restive yacht]

again tho, this is an mmorpg hosted on minecraft

[rotund gust]

TRYE

TRUE

ULTRA INSTINCT

[rotund gust]

oh then i did see it. Idk i didn't register that as seppuku, i just thought those were dying words or something

[steep forum]

i must see more secret discovery lore talk

stuck with fruma SD brainworms

[regal spire]

Why’d they kill themselves. They could’ve kept fighting ngl

[regal spire]

Did you know? The abandoned mines SD is exactly the same?

[restive yacht]

remember man, it's keal

[rotund gust]

no ultimate discoveries 😔

[uneven basin]

I fucking LOVED the corkus one

[regal spire]

Oh, yeah, no Fruma ults 😔

[tepid blade]

not yet, may we hope for one soon

[restive yacht]

tbf that's kinda too far

[gleaming apex]

What if we have to gather the five elemental god so they can form captain planet and defeat the realm beasts

[rotund gust]

i just wanna know about the wellspring of eternity

[tepid blade]

true, such a cool area with nothing in it

[uneven basin]

Also funny to have them go "we will create a great province" when you know they're about to genocide a bunch of birds

[regal spire]

All 3 of Corkus’s SD’s, one of which is basically a glorified concept dungeon

[rotund gust]

"we will create a great province" is so funny

like bro

you JUST left fruma

[fallow heart]

Im guessing they'll add a quest to it

[rotund gust]

tf you mean

[regal spire]

Yes, it is me, Corkus Morkus from Corkus. We will create a great province…

[winged narwhal]

Croaquim will be pivotal to defeating Saphanis

[tepid blade]

And it's like, Corkus ain't even a province

[restive yacht]

FACTS

BASED

[uneven basin]

Give us a loot chest or an npc at LEAST

[winged narwhal]

They would very much insist otherwise

[restive yacht]

the frog bog incarnate

[regal spire]

Where do you guys think the ultimates are gonna be

[fallow heart]

In the palace im guessing

[restive yacht]

btw there's still no way to open the door right

[rotund gust]

croaquim being bribed to scare people away from the area and reporting to the inquistors/two about who is snooping around, only to get 0 information on the wellspring which is presumably what he's guarding

[tepid blade]

true, particularly those "Corkian nationalists" or what ever they call themselves that sound intresting on paper but are mention like twice

[regal spire]

I’m assuming the highlands one to be in the palace, but the others are a mystery

[steep forum]

i love an unexpected departure let it be known

[rotund gust]

Croaquim is the 6th Fruma god

[regal spire]

I was thinking that maybe the bathhouse could be the Auburn ultimate

[hollow lynx]

To them It's like saying: You aren't a women if you were a man before and you're trans

[restive yacht]

i had a dream yesterday

[uneven basin]

So they'd have the wings to the east and croaquin to the south ?

[rotund gust]

i guess

[uneven basin]

Why the hell did they stop paying him

[rotund gust]

idk

[fallow heart]

Im not sure if they're gonna do one ult SD for each region
I feel like they would just bundle them all up into one fruma ult SD

[tepid blade]

Something about either the queen, the old Fruman civilization, or Bak'al

[restive yacht]

what if wynncraft ends with everyone dying of something, leaving the province completely empty, with just us around

[rotund gust]

i think they said they would

[restive yacht]

to save on entity costs

[rotund gust]

but highlands and aelumia will be together

so 4 ults

[tepid blade]

oh shit? nice

[uneven basin]

Are they ever gonna add interiors to the aelumia buildings ?

[fallow heart]

Peak

[regal spire]

They said they weren’t doing that

But, they also love lying!

[hollow lynx]

What Ultimates?

[steep forum]

the inconspicuous wastelands:

[tepid blade]

Ultimate secret discoveries

[rotund gust]

wasn't counting that since wastelands doesn't have any secrets

[regal spire]

Ain’t no way Wasteland’s gets an ultimate, unless it’s tied to the Mistwoods

[rotund gust]

or

[hollow lynx]

Oh, ty

[rotund gust]

anything

[steep forum]

well ok. wastelands has to release first

[hexed birch]

its a whole 5th region, why wouldnt it get an ult

[uneven basin]

I want to dream of a deraj dungeon

[regal spire]

Unless… this is a subtle way at referencing the fact that the wastelands is actually a huge, unground chasm-esc-depths in TotK style area???

[hexed birch]

mistwoods is also not giant but its getting one

[rotund gust]

the wynn jungle in question

[hollow lynx]

Then stop chatting and go make it /j

[hexed birch]

we dont talk about the jungle

[regal spire]

Mistwoods has big trees, though

[hexed birch]

wastelands has big... uhhh..... terrain...?

[fallow heart]

Big rocks

[regal spire]

Nice try, but the Wastelands are clearly gonna be empty, to signify the waste

[rotund gust]

Im thinking
auburn is gonna be wellspring
roughworks maybe another corkus one? or perhaps showing more of the industrialization (stuff on the fruma gods would be cool too I'm really really intrigued by them)
mistwoods probably related to the council chambers beneath aelumia
highlands and aelumia im betting will be the queens takeover of fruma/emergence from the portal.

wastelands probably changeling/hallowground rleated

or

[hexed birch]

dont you want the deep powderman lore from the ult though?

[regal spire]

Roughworks might end up by the stone with the gauntlet

[rotund gust]

nifilis is alive and just chillin in wastelands and we get to meet them

[regal spire]

…maybe…

[rotund gust]

no thats its own thing

thats the architect shrine

we know what that is now

[hexed birch]

eh idk, the altars have their own uses rn, not tied to secret discoveries

[regal spire]

Architect shrine, my beloved dagger

[fallow heart]

Wastleands prob gonna be the changeling source

[regal spire]

Ironically, the Rosetta Stone actually leads you to an SD

[restive yacht]

do we really need altars at all

rune altars*

[regal spire]

Unless that’s not considered an altar

[rotund gust]

i mean they are nice alternatives to worldevents

[hexed birch]

oh do you mean the second rosetta?

[uneven basin]

Also cosmic lore

[rotund gust]

wait which rosetta is the 2nd rosetta

[fallow heart]

PLEASE have most cosmic lore

[hexed birch]

that one is just a stone with script

no interaction stuff with mythics

[regal spire]

I see, I thought it had one

[uneven basin]

I'm saying that and dreading the day the remake ???

[rotund gust]

is 2nd the one in the sunken monument stuff?

[regal spire]

We’ve got the TWF one in the lake, Architect in the roughworks, ascendancy in Torann? What else

[rotund gust]

ascendancy got removed iirc

[hexed birch]

its just architect and restitution

[regal spire]

Oh, rip

[rotund gust]

so restitution and architect

[uneven basin]

There's the ragni Rosetta and the architect one

Yeah

[hexed birch]

ascendacny used to be in aelumia in beta but was removed because the mythics had much more depth than i think the builders who put it there realised

[rotund gust]

i mean i don't think its fair to call the architect shrine a rosetta now that we know its kinda its own thing alongside restitution

[regal spire]

Add the mythics back, it was a cool lil thing

[regal spire]

They should add them back in lore appropriate locations fr

[hexed birch]

most likely they will

would be weird to leave any of the mythics out

[regal spire]

Let’s theorize where they’ll go!

[uneven basin]

Az shrine in the forgery

[rotund gust]

i'll be right on atleast one of these trust trust

[regal spire]

Restitution makes sense, and ig architect makes sense, too, considering the stone’s lore

[rotund gust]

i beat you too it shmeg

[hexed birch]

fire mythic altar on plateau nr123645 in wastelands prediction

[regal spire]

I can still theorize again!

Anywho, Riptide is a really interesting one, because I think it belongs in Auburn

Something to do with the dam

[rotund gust]

riptide could also be at the fruma gate

[hexed birch]

also i dont know if theyll add back ascendancy since we already have a spear, itlll probs be a different class?

[rotund gust]

since its attached to the ocean

no im really confident on my halycon prediction one though

its so majin coded

[hexed birch]

what element is halcyon visually

[regal spire]

If we go off of the 1 per class idea, though, then Halcyon is definitely a Majin’s home pick

[rotund gust]

uhhh

idk

[regal spire]

TWA, but it’s technically a rainbow item

[rotund gust]

oh

[regal spire]

So the rainbow t3 wand

[rotund gust]

i mean, majin has rainbow magic

rainbow wand skin

[regal spire]

Mhm

The bow choices are a tough one

[rotund gust]

Revolution can't really fit anywhere but the rebel bases

i think thats fair for it

[regal spire]

Revolution is super fitting for the story, but it doesn’t have alot of areas it can really go

[rotund gust]

eschaton no clue though

[regal spire]

Eschaton is my choice

[hexed birch]

i dont think all 10 will be shrines, just 5

[fallow heart]

What are the mythic shrines?

[hexed birch]

shrines that have old fruman lore if you bring their mythic to it

theres 2 rn

[rotund gust]

i mean

Leaves Base
Remains of the Cursed base
Steel Feather
The 3 different canopy bases
The Blossom Gossip room
The Aelumia marketplace

theres a decent number of areas

[rotund gust]

i mean it would be kinda weird for them to only make shrines for half of the mythics

[hexed birch]

im basing it on the fact that fruma is divided into 5 different zones for each element

[winged narwhal]

Halcyon lore seems to be from Majin’s perspective so

[rotund gust]

yeah but then wastelands would make 6

[hexed birch]

but ig uess we'll see, they could add more

[regal spire]

Eschaton would actually be hilarious if it was in the raid

[hexed birch]

nono, aelumia is part of highlands

[regal spire]

It’s lore fits Apotheosis really well

[hexed birch]

its 5 with wastes

[fallow heart]

Oh cool

[edgy loom]

in the ultimate discovery for olux... why does a portal spawn and spread darkness before sending out unmodeled parasites?? or is it not a portal and just a burrow? cuz it's odd they can spread darkness like that

[rotund gust]

yeah halycon is almost certainly his mansion. Maybe royal univeristy since halycon often refers to like "the good old days" and has a connotation of college/schooling

[regal spire]

I’m assuming it’s a magic dark burrow thing

[rotund gust]

i mean, i know it wasn't intended but wasn't ascendency in aelumia

[hexed birch]

it was and it was also removed for a reason

[rotund gust]

i guess

[hexed birch]

old fruman stuff ties into their gods, 1 for each region, aelumia is not included in that

[rotund gust]

but also then that feels like... idk lame if only half the mythics get this cool extra lore and the other half don't

[regal spire]

Maybe Eschaton could fit for Aelumia

[winged narwhal]

I love immanentizing my eschaton

[hexed birch]

anyone have a list of all fruman mythics

[rotund gust]

me when i promise my cult that when we take over everything will be better

[rotund gust]

Halcyon
Riptide
Vengeance
Architect
Revolution
Eschaton
Restitution
Ascendency
Transfiguration
Fate

[hexed birch]

thanks

[regal spire]

Oh, right, the relik’s

Transfiguration works similarly to Fate, so I’m unsure which one to pick

[edgy loom]

I thought the cocoon was under the caritat mansion?

why is the secret discovery in this random ass house

[regal spire]

They’re both lores tied heavily with change

[edgy loom]

or was it a different cocoon

[regal spire]

Ones more on the inevitability of it all, and the other on how it happened

[rotund gust]

but also neither resitution nor architect seem to have anything to do with the old gods in and of themselves.

Architect cutscene namedrops tolos at the end, but they aren't really relevant
Restitution cutscene hasn't been fully translated but doesn't seem to mention any gods

[regal spire]

Architect has to do with the lore of the stone

[rotund gust]

yeah the stone itself mentions 2 gods

[regal spire]

The “make the people in the image of one to save their species”

Or whatever the line was

[rotund gust]

but the actual cutscene itself doesn't

[hexed birch]

yeah im not saying they have to be about them, just that they fit the whole 5 elements 5 gods 5 regions thing

[rotund gust]

Trust nifilis is the source of changelings and thats why they're crazy

[regal spire]

Actually, wait, you get cutscenes for giving those mythics to the shrines?

[rotund gust]

yeah

[regal spire]

I did NOT know that

[rotund gust]

hold on

[regal spire]

Does it consume the mythics

[rotund gust]

ashdew replay modded them ysterday

no

[hexed birch]

no

[rotund gust]

lemme find them and link them

[regal spire]

Okay, I cannot WAIT to surprise my partner with this

She’s gonna be so hyped

[hexed birch]

consuming them would be fucking insane and kinda funny

[regal spire]

Gonna play all aloof

[rotund gust]

^

[regal spire]

I can’t ever be sure, Y’know

[rotund gust]

i don't think restitution has been filmed yet but i can send screenshots of it if you want

[regal spire]

Nah, I’ll wait

I’m so hyped to see this ingame, and I want her to discover it for herself, so I can pretend to be surprised more

[rotund gust]

i had to lend ashdew my architect to film is cause they're expensive asf 😭

[regal spire]

My architect was 8stx unID

So worth the grind

[rotund gust]

i bought mine for 12

lmfao

[regal spire]

Absolutely amazing dagger

[hexed birch]

omg i just read transfigs lore and its so on the nose once you know lmfao

[rotund gust]

but i bought a decent pre-id'd one

[regal spire]

Mine got around 70% overall, so I’m happy

Rolled it once, I think

[rotund gust]

i think i bought one that was 75ish?

bad healing eff and life steal but good everything else

[regal spire]

Same with my Riptide, too. Bought for 5stx unID and got 100% meteor and 80% raw

60-70% ms, I think

[rotund gust]

i main trickster so even if it gets nerfed im still gonna use it

its still my ideal playstyle tbh

[regal spire]

I pray it doesn’t get nerfed

I love it so much

[rotund gust]

same

its so nice to have self healing on trickster

[regal spire]

Don’t nerf the healing, if anything

Or the base!!!!

Don’t nerf the base!!!

Nerf, like, the resistance, if anything

[rotund gust]

tbh the nerf i could see is that the MID lowers or removes the bonus damage granted to spells from last laugh in exchange for the healing

[regal spire]

NO

Just nerf the base atp

We saw what happens when no sac buff

You’ll be max 200k dps 🤯

Don’t nerf architect at all, imo. I love it

Everyone slept on this dagger, but I knew. I knew this shit was gonna be the most amazing thing in the world day 1

[rotund gust]

wait am i crazy. i was looking a trick tree and theres nothing about sacing giving a damage buff

[regal spire]

Now, Wintel be making a switch on his YT, glazing the dagger

[rotund gust]

OHHHHH

[regal spire]

But, bro knows that once he makes a video, it’s gonna get nerfed!

[rotund gust]

mirror image gives the 30% damage boost when you lose a clone

thats what i mthinking of

yeah i could see them making the major ID remove or nerf that 30% in exchange for the healing

[regal spire]

They can’t do this to me 😔

[rotund gust]

likea drop to 15% i think is reasonable

[regal spire]

I made a level 109 build and everything

[rotund gust]

given just how much sustain you get with architect

[regal spire]

The trade off is 500 base

[rotund gust]

and how it makes it easier to use noxious since you can stand still and don't need to back off to heal with potions

[regal spire]

You need to build damage on it to get good enough numbers to make it fun, and, even then, it’s not getting more than 350-400k dps for a few seconds.

It’s a perfectly fine mythic that is good because of the sustain and health you get. Removing dps would make it unfun

[rotund gust]

yeah but its not a burst weapon. you might not get the 350-400k dps but you also don't get the lul period where you have to wait for your mirrors to recharge since you don't have the ehp to abuse sandbagging

[regal spire]

It’s a low skill weapon, if anything, and I think that’s why it deserves its spot. It’s like a Labyrinth dagger, but not fucking buns because you have actual sustain and fun support abilities

Nerfing its dps is gonna make it into another laby situation, only it’ll be worse cause laby was a garbage lame loser bow, while architect is hella!

[rotund gust]

im kinda sad though, cause by all accounts on trickster architect is just straight up better then nulli and inferno

[regal spire]

Nulli and inferno deserve ascensions

Give them capabilities to stream them away from base trickster more, like inferno getting a shade mid, or nulli getting more debuffs that allow it to run less tricks and better sustain

[rotund gust]

nulli ascension: a bit tankier and make punishment stronger and also activate on thorns.
inferno: idk give it shade major id

[regal spire]

Punishment should activate on hit, ngl

and, give nulli slowness%

[rotund gust]

also fair

[regal spire]

That way, you got 2 debuffs right there, and can either stack it with the aspect, or forgo one or two tricks for better nodes

[rotund gust]

i mean a 2nd debuff would be cool but at some point your hitting your max on noxious damage boost

and the trick debuffs are generally better then slow enemy

[regal spire]

I would honestly take more debuffs so I don’t have to use deflag, and can run it with more interesting nodes, like hop

[rotund gust]

oh right i forgot about deflag

[regal spire]

Deflag’s a really lame debuff, and Idt it does enough damage to justify using it a lot

Being able to skip it is an ideal scenario, so I can have more mobility, or potentially just take a goofier node

Like violent vortex

That would be very funny

Inferno, though, feels more trickshade/shade orientated. Give it that cool 8 spin attack MID fr

[rotund gust]

also trick doesn’t need 3 tank weapons

[regal spire]

Yeah, true

[rotund gust]

acro mID on inferno

[regal spire]

Lmao, the flying inferno

Lacerate is now a… single slice? That deals… 400% neutral damage???

[edgy loom]

there's so much stuff about how the queen dealt with the cursed and people trying to stand against the monarchy while she was in charge, but what about when she made fruma hers in 200 AP? what was the struggle like? or was it purely diplomacy

[rotund gust]

idk she probably killed everyone

[tepid blade]

If I remember correctly, old Fruma was already in ruins when she got their, so she didn't have to do much, probably though a direct action caused by her

[regal spire]

I’m assuming she just flew in on some B17 bomber type shit and dropped the load

[edgy loom]

I think that's the psyop the queen tried to spread

I believe they were thriving before the queen took over, I think one secret discovery alludes to it

I'd check the wiki but that needs work

[tepid blade]

well, I heard someone say that Bak'al destroyed old Fruma and the queen took over after that

well theorize that Bak'al did that

[edgy loom]

so there IS a drawback to using the lazarus pit water

too bad we never got to see it with dullahan since that was the decay

oh wait spoilers

[regal spire]

We are in Lore_Discussion

[edgy loom]

||she just fucking killed them all||

[regal spire]

I get such a horrible pit, when thinking about lost cultures

[tepid blade]

same

[regal spire]

It’s worse than any kind of death, because it confirms the inevitable void that follows it

The memories and people that will all be forgotten is a really big weight in that kind of theme. Good thing we have an ever changing, constantly developing world that reaffirms the beauty of life

Man, life would STINK if it didn’t have the promise of creation to look forward to

[hexed birch]

||hallowground !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!||

[edgy loom]

ok so darkness can resurrect corpses too

aren't there a tad too many similarities between darkness and corruption

[grizzled frost]

||do we have a translation for the inscription in the Sunken monument secret discovery||

[tepid blade]

Yeah, it old Dern lore kind of feels like that sometimes, I hope stuff like this changes as well when we get the RoL rework

[restive yacht]

whoever made the industree lore a thing needs an hug

[spring kernel]

i don't think anything has been translated yet

they're working on it

[uneven basin]

Overfilled with corpses more in the sense of so many people died

[vapid path]

Wasn’t one of the scrolls in the buried glacier translated?

Or was that pre-translated

[restive yacht]

btw i'm considering something of a plothole regarding how the citadel is made

why is there opened windows and normal houses on the side of the mistwoods

why would anyone have a window on the mistwoods

[edgy loom]

oh that makes more sense

[vapid path]

I personally keep all my windows open so that the fae changling out my children

[restive yacht]

ic

[edgy loom]

does this thing have a use yet

[vapid path]

I more wish that there was a fast travel between citidel and mistwoods via catacombs, or atleast an actual tunnel or something

[regal walrus]

nah

[edgy loom]

alright so I have seen two cocoons for the parasite, one in the ultimate discovery, another in a random discovery where it went into a cocoon after the fight with lari. neither of these places are below the caritat mansion

so is there just a 3rd cocoon

what

[regal spire]

It’s where the parasite emerged, not cocooned

[edgy loom]

or maybe rol 3 explained this

[regal spire]

RoL2 actually

[edgy loom]

oh yeah the equinox

gonna rewatch that

[rich scarab]

they all use distant horizons

[restive yacht]

i see, now it all makes sense

[burnt zodiac]

Transcription:
NASAHEKSH: HUTL AH, TAHKUH AH, KOV AH KRAHKRAHEKSH ETLPRAHAL

My Current Rough translation:
Nasaheksh: Our[KRAHKRAHEKSH][PRAHAL] of [HUTL], of [TAHKUH] and of battle.

[regal spire]

So they can see outside of their houses

[edgy loom]

oh there it is, that thing just came out of the sky

what caused the equinox again

[restive yacht]

ah yes i'd really like to see fog and... what's that? an oversized bee coming inside my window?

[celest falcon]

0 AP so the chopping down of the tree probably

[regal spire]

Well, yeah. Why wouldn’t you wanna be able to see the big bee, before leaving

[vapid path]

A suicide bombing bird

[regal spire]

Also, the fogs thick, but not thick enough to not see out of a window

[restive yacht]

so true

[burnt zodiac]

Where

[regal spire]

It’s also not any sort of vapor, so condensation on the window wouldn’t make it foggy

[drifting aurora]

desperation breeds creativity, etc etc etc

[regal spire]

“You see, your honor, I distressed this family of 4 and murdered their father to inspire creativity”

[burnt zodiac]

Probs alot of it defensive stuff

[restive yacht]

ah

if u put it that way ihg

[spring kernel]

these look a lot more like "necessary for protection" windows than "what a nice view" windows

[restive yacht]

then again, this defensive appartment building looks very...defensive

tbf they all look like closed windows

[hexed birch]

thats the palace

[restive yacht]

ah

ok then why does the palace have windows on the mistwoods

[hexed birch]

would look flat without it

[restive yacht]

fair enough

also i found the opened window

it's an entrance on top of a tower

so it's not a window

per se

[edgy loom]

but orphion is the light itself

why didn't bro tell lari to do shit

[restive yacht]

i have a reason to believe they all are carriers, alas their incarnation

not the whole thing

[edgy loom]

it's funny that there's a secret discovery for the light being able to communicate with others... then the light proceeds to refuse to communicate with anyone

[restive yacht]

that should probably resume it

[tepid blade]

I do have a theory that Orphion used us the the RoL quest to get rid of Lari, so the idea he just refused to talk to anyone else until we came along (likely because we didn't know anything about the dark and light yet) would support that

[grave heron]

it was for one of the secret discoveries in mistwoods

[edgy loom]

the ultimate discovery for the light forest goes so hard, I wonder when it was reworked to be what it is

anyways, the dern beast aurafarms, and while doing so describes the light as a "vile claim"

which does make me think, the light can actually coexist with the human inhabitants of the world, unlike darkness

so why would it be vile, right?

but the thing is, the goal was always destruction

at least darkness is upfront about it

[steep forum]

yeah, but the coordinates though

oh well i'l lgo doublecheck

[hollow lynx]

It's certainly not a bad theory, but what's the reason to get rid of her? He won't get the blessing back

There is nothing that she could really do and im sure Orphion would just gaslight her further to get more use out of her

[tepid blade]

Fair point

[rich scarab]

surely if he wanted to get rid of her he'd just go "yo wanna have a visit to the realm of light?", get her to go to the nexus, and then like just kill her

[restive yacht]

Unless she's also a manaweaver capable of disrupting his reign

[tepid blade]

Well, they did need her to fix the realm of light so we could get to the nexus

[hollow lynx]

I almost feel like Orphion is more evil than Sephanim because he lies to everybody

[rich scarab]

i bet if he told her "you dying would be for the greater good trust trust" she'd jump into the void herself

[hollow lynx]

Both of them should be equally bad, but Orphion seems worse

[tepid blade]

Well, he was telling her that killing was for the greater good, but she still refused to listen to him, holding on to her ideals of pacifism

[restive yacht]

You know now that i think about it, Scions tend to be very strong individuals, take bak'al as an example

I'm still pretty sure he helps us defeat Anathema

[tepid blade]

how?

[restive yacht]

Have u noticed those jump pads

[hollow lynx]

Don't bullshit me

It's called gameplay

[tepid blade]

to be fair Bak'al trying to "help" us kill his old master would make some sense

so he wouldn't have to do it himself

[restive yacht]

Ok so why could'nt we just enter Anathema fort?

Why was Anathema actively trying to push us out

Yk, chains

[tepid blade]

okay do we know anything about the reason the chains exist lore wise?

[restive yacht]

Also somehow everything around us is not made by netherrack, yet some how those pads are

[restive yacht]

I'd like to know

[tepid blade]

same

[restive yacht]

Well, those chains end up helping us defeat her

Soooo there's some sort of symbolism there

[tepid blade]

It could have been part of the resonance weaver's powers, as it can control the corruption is some way, or at least I think it can

which was a Bak'al creation, maybe he made to kill or trap Anathema long before we found it

[restive yacht]

Yea that makes sense, however there's no indication we used such device to spawn in those

In order to defeat her

[tepid blade]

true, but we do know that canonically, we had it with us in the raid, or at least I think we did

[restive yacht]

Like, we know we should use it somehow during the raid, however it kinda isn't there (?)

Then again its corruption

Idk it feels so random

It just so happens after we get kicked out into the interlude, it just spawn on the side conveniently

Either that's unfinished, or the raid wasn't meant for the other npcs to be played with in the first place

Also the launch pad on second room is already there ( not that it makes any lore sense, ig that's just gameplay)

[silk ravine]

It’s still funny to me that you need a mythic to access these shrines, and one of the two is a shrine for the only mythic in the game that you don’t want.

[rich scarab]

i mean i dont think anyone in the canon party (zeph, tasim, sui, us) knows how to use the resonance weaver

the chains also arent all good for us, some do act as attacks that can damage you (i know this because one sniped me out of the air earlier)

so if made by some external force trying to help us, idk why they'd be doing that

i feel like it's probably more just a gameplay thing that feels fitting, similar to the nuclear bomb that she has the ability to spawn

[tepid blade]

yeah, it could be just a gameplay thing

[silk ravine]

Aledar definitely at least, we don’t see him that much until Silent Expanse.

[grave heron]

Sorry was afk its the one I cant remember the name let me check

Its called First Wicker’s Spark

Im not home so cant check coords

[steep forum]

Yeah I'll run around and see if there's any consistency to this

[quartz cobalt]

Hey quick question, is there anymore talking mushroom dialogue found? I know he says something next to the big tree stump in Aburn and he says something in the frog bog SD. But i didn't find any other spots in my playthrough

[grave heron]

Okay ty. I eventually got it, had to /class a few times

[steep forum]

weird as hell

[primal anchor]

none of the characters who were supposed to come to the raid are there either

considering tcc has the dogun elders this seems simply unfinished

[dim sky]

Leif Pyle dialogue, I believe!

Could be wrong and I’m thinking of Frog Bog SD

[lyric siren]

||so corkus people came from fruma !||

[rotund gust]

i mean

we knew that

relos library says so

[lyric siren]

Ok ok
The cutscene was cool though :)

[rotund gust]

it was

john corkus “we will create a great province”

[formal bridge]

several hundred years later, still trying to get recognized as a province

[timid fox]

While we're at it, a way through the sealed door?

[rotund gust]

they haven’t finished building yet

there’s still land

those birds don’t need it

[past laurel]

why is the strong survive dialogue so wooden

not a single abbreviation to be found

it reads like a very poorly done AI rendition of human conversations

if you play the quest I think you'll know what I mean

but this is a good example I think

who would ever say this

"now go see commander ferreo, he is waiting for you in the next room"

it seems very inhuman and artificial even though it's a grammatically correct sentence

[tough axle]

Ai made story

[grand burrow]

do we know what that rune door under wartorn palace is yet?

[tough axle]

It’s what it feels like

[digital swan]

time in wynn is fucked

nemract gets clobbered before deltas and akias (both smackdab between the portal and nemract) go untouched for like 500 more years

[tough axle]

the whole province explanation doesn’t make much sense. Is a province a single nation or simply a large geographical continent

[digital swan]

akias has like 300 years of experience fighting off corrupted and then has like 3 soldiers when bakal arrives like this was their first meeting with him

[tough axle]

Because if so geographically corked I’d basically one, and the dialogue in the envoy makes 0 sense

If nation state then not even Wynn is a province

[digital swan]

provinces are bullshit

no province has ever been under a single political entity

besides maybe Fruma

[tough axle]

Yeah they are and yet the game outs such an emphasis on that word

A lot of it would be fixed if the corkus story was rewritten

It’s kind of ass

[digital swan]

when Frumans held the northwestern portion of Wynn, Olm held the south
when Almuj held the eastern portion of Wynn, Ragni and Friends held the west
when Colossus shredded ahmsord, villagers held maybe a third of Gavel while elves, orcs, doguns, dwarves, and fuck else held the rest
when the Gavellian Civil War occured, the elves had Aldorei, the Dwarves were somewhere, and the entire northwest was doing random bullshit
when humans first arrived on corkus, there was probably at least a few different avos tribes in the south
provinces have zero relevance on practically anything and should either be renamed to continents(?) or removed altogether in favor of proper border demarcation

[unique crescent]

Is Two supposed to be some sort of dimensional entity?

[tepid blade]

what do you mean by that?

like from a realm of influence?

[unique crescent]

like he seems to be like very inhuman

[tepid blade]

she*

[unique crescent]

ope mb

[tepid blade]

||I mean, maybe, we don't much information to go off on Two right now, but she is likely from the physical plane. whether they are human or not is unknown to my knowledge, but she is likely human||

[winged narwhal]

Well, you see, Villagers don’t view non-Villager nonhumans as people

[digital swan]

villagers don't view people as people

they're more a fan of villagers than people

human rights are kinda secondary

[formal bridge]

villagers view amazon's policies for it's employees as remarkably generous

[shut hornet]

it hasnt had a dialogue pass by one of the writers yet

[unique crescent]

Also is rex just the goat? They dont use magic out of spite but managed to hold their own against tasim the demigod, all while being a child.

[lyric siren]

Is there a place where all the dialogues lines of ||Anathena || post raid are documented ?

[signal bough]

Well she starts using archer spells

[rich scarab]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FeIyKgKSvTZc9R2xyJXjibaLKravjEqveKG5sB87iG8/edit?tab=t.0

[lyric siren]

Thanks !

[unique crescent]

she states specifically that she doesnt

[winged narwhal]

Frankly with Rex I kinda suspect there’s something unconscious involved

[signal tusk]

Anyone else absolutely love A Missing Piece? Was not expecting a side quest of all things to actually get me

[rich scarab]

everyone

the only non-extremely-positive things i've heard about that quest are bug related

[signal tusk]

I mentioned completing it earlier and found the one guy who didnt like it I guess

Said it was a boring story with boring gameplay

im just like ???

[rich scarab]

???? theres a guy who didnt like it

[signal tusk]

I guess so lmao

I wish I took a screenshot

Wait I found it

I cut out the end for spoiler reasons

[rich scarab]

found it!

[signal tusk]

but he just made it super basic and dumbed down

oh LOL

[burnt robin]

https://giphy.com/gifs/rage-ragebait-mtakhirov-64JUFG6pKn72L4E46y

[lyric siren]

I have another question if you dont mind, is there anything unlocked (interactions, etc..) after first clearing the raid ? Like can we talk to the members of the resistence somewhere?

[rich scarab]

||me when i get so desensitised to the idea of death that even if being presented in that kind of way my only thought is a sarcastic "boohoo"||

[gleaming apex]

The only thing is behind the base in the Auburn forest with ||Tasim||

[rich scarab]

you can find ||tasim near the leaves of the wind base||

[lyric siren]

Ok ! Thanks
So nothing with Sui/Rex/Zeph (wanted to know how Rex was doing)

[rich scarab]

not yet as far as i know (although i have to imagine that they'll add more stuff like that eventually rather than just having everyone disappear off the face of the world)

[lyric siren]

I hope so as well ! Thanks for the answers

[regal spire]

Just saw that cutscene in with the roughworks shrine

What a strange looking character

[hasty beacon]

I hope rex either gets a gun or a robot arm

[lyric siren]

I was initially thinking of the robot arm since ppl from Timasca seemed to build prothesis

Quill has something on him no ?

Like a leg if I remember correctly

[rotund gust]

quinn has a leg though, and given player model we don't know if its a smart prosthetetic or not

prosthetic

she'd be better off going to corkus

for a prosthetic

[hasty beacon]

Dont ppl lose their memories of fruma if they leave

[rotund gust]

uhh thats up for debate atp

[hasty beacon]

The corkians did

[rotund gust]

since marcus corkus doesn't seem to innately lose his

in the cutscene

so maybe a retcon?

also the fact that we know now the memory wipe is an intentinal thing that inqusitors do, not just a thing that happens to people who leave

maybe people losing their memory is propoganda of some kind?

[lyric siren]

Why wouldnt we as the player loose ours then

Because we can freely get in and out of fruma now

[hasty beacon]

That would be really funny if we just got wiped and sent back to 105

[rotund gust]

no i mean like, maybe the memory wipe happening anytime you leave thing is a story spread by governments to help keep people from investigating too deep into fruma

like a deal between fruma and wynn

and maybe corkus too

[burnt robin]

orr maybe

corkus ppl just kinda forgot

about the whole fruma ordeal

[rotund gust]

or its just they changed the lore and haven't updated stuff yet

[burnt robin]

they ARE from the roughworks after all

they didnt exactly get to see too much of fruma

if that was the case

[lyric siren]

But the corkus ppl from fruma were generations ago

[rotund gust]

i mean, everyone in fruma gets a visa like once a year right? Jiro uses his to visit syndra at the festival

[burnt robin]

even more so, there isn't any reason to reminisce on the roughworks of all places let alone pass down the stories of it through the generations

[rotund gust]

so they get to travel around fruma

[burnt robin]

its not worth telling stories of this kind

[rotund gust]

i mean, their national identity and patrotism seems pretty ingrained with the "left for a better life" thing

[gleaming apex]

Yeah I just assumed they made up some excuse to not talk about it

[rotund gust]

my thought is maybe the inquistors went and hunted down the few original corkians after they escape and wiped them

[summer bluff]

Do yall think that there's gonna be fruma interactions in the festival of the heroes or nah?

[rotund gust]

i mean, heros is probably the festival where the least could be put in fruma

its just the scavenger hunt

new items would be cool though

[exotic remnant]

hello has anyone found a transciber for the fruma language found throughout the new expansion

[wary lantern]

didnt lexnt say we would learn why with release or smth 😭

what happeneed to that

[rotund gust]

would be kinda interesting to see if the talespin citadel and story magic has any relation to Two's shards or anything

but

[wary lantern]

also yeah

[rotund gust]

i doubt

[wary lantern]

||talk to gale under the hive after doing the nasin house discov||

[rotund gust]

why what

[wary lantern]

?

[exotic remnant]

thanks

[wary lantern]

the... conversation???

corkus

why they lost their memory

[rotund gust]

oh

i thought we moved on to heros fest

[wary lantern]

what

who even mentioned that 😭

bro had a premonition

[rotund gust]

m

[wary lantern]

oh that was like one offbeat mention akjsgskfg

i didnt even see

[gleaming apex]

Maybe the inquisitions have a long range memory wipe spell

[wary lantern]

then why bother going to get people in the first place

[burnt robin]

yes

[wary lantern]

||just wipe the house on the hill from afar instead of sending an inquis and wings captain out for elise||

[burnt robin]

very easily

[signal bough]

was Bob mostly reactive over his hundred years in Wynn? there's a lot of big name things in Wynn he left unresolved, like Charon or Theorick

[tepid blade]

Well, he was in Gavel for some time, but for how long we don't know

[burnt robin]

he was most likely too busy dealing with bak'al

theorick wasn't even that much of a worry

[signal bough]

bak'al scurried under a rock after his defeat right

[burnt robin]

he protected nesaak

[burnt robin]

not exactly

[tepid blade]

When did Nemract fall?

[burnt robin]

bro started targetting all the cities

that bob wasnt at

💀

[warm flicker]

Tasim has no idea how many times i tried to tell him about Aledar only to be blocked because the content isnt implemented yet

[tepid blade]

before scurring under a rock for a hundred years, before randomly appearing the Realm of Light (I do think we need more of him at least described before he just shows up in that quest not gonna lie)

[warm flicker]

it is a canon event that i cant tell him

[burnt robin]

spiderman 2099 appears on the bridge to deraj just to prevent us from telling him

😭

[tepid blade]

as unless you have done the Ragni secret discoveries (which I didn't do before RoL) he just kind of shows up without explanation

[signal bough]

prob Salted

[warm flicker]

olinus had a video going over the queens recruit quest from the beta when the dialogue for telling him about aledar was still there and its so heartbreaking but still so much better than not telling

[exotic remnant]

yo what am i missing here

I tried translating and its un intelligible so im assuming theres another step to translation

[wary lantern]

https://discord.com/channels/143852930036924417/1489836179665981621

its a full on con-lang

very cool stuff

we're still working on it

[exotic remnant]

my god just read through some of the doc

[exotic remnant]

thanks for the doc btw now i gotta translate this stupid snake statue with it xD

[mystic fulcrum]

there's no cutscene here? This looks like some sort of building to host meetings

[signal bough]

later

[zinc quarry]

so i just finished apotheosis and wtf is the player?

[round wraith]

do ur quests sweetie

ur 119!

[tepid blade]

good question, welcome to the "who/what the hell are we" club 🙂

[mystic fulcrum]

I'm currently doing the last quest now

just get back to the area to see if there's a cutscene

[round wraith]

this was in ensemble of hope tho

[brittle prism]

might be a bit late for that bud

[zinc quarry]

damn

i think i remember someone in here saying earlier that the player is the scion of a fourth unknown realm or smth is this true

also do we know what the melody mentioned in apotheosis is

[tepid blade]

Everything anyone says about what our characters identity that isn't directedly stated in a quest or dialogue is only a theory

[round wraith]

LMAO

[zinc quarry]

i see

[brittle prism]

the realm of craftsmas of course

its influence stops this endless war

[zinc quarry]

also is it just me or does the power scaling feel very whack in fruma atleast

like rex literally has no magic she should not have an effect on tasim or the queen at all?

and i guess its just a limitation of being in minecraft but the animated scenes make everyone look really unimpressive lol

[signal bough]

It was staring us in the face the whole time. The general's orders changeling didn't know what Gavel was called, which was a massive hint it wasn't from Gavel

[brittle prism]

Why was it even there

[split night]

It escape Fruma and travel to Gavel

It can't form a formal sentence so it likely escaped the training ground early before it could actually do anything spy related

We do get to see what a changeling actually look like though, which is neat

[brittle prism]

what if fruma forgot that the general's orders changeling was a changeling and sent them to wynn to become a soldier 🤨

[signal bough]

perhaps the inquisitors are told if they get anyone who they don't have a record of who's either really weird or claiming to be a spy, to send them to Fort Hegea

if they're a changeling, or if they're lying, either way, no problems

[wise thorn]

I mean boltslingers with the exception of guardian angel are just people who shoot arrows really fast

[dim plover]

Can’t wait for Realm of Twilight

[brittle prism]

Realm of Peace...

We represent the realm of peace

Cause we're trying to stop the war

[wise thorn]

The player's actions during quests like Maltic's Well would certainly beg to differ

[dim plover]

The opposite of War is Unity

(Therefore we need to marry the Realm Beasts together)

It’s the only solution

[brittle prism]

Maybe

[radiant harbor]

We're so peaceful fr (the MASSACRE of fort toran)

[brittle prism]

Not a massacre if it's military

We are so peaceful that we attack people who aren't

[radiant harbor]

Yeah clearly soldiers are just zombies with an armor

[signal bough]

by then it was def too late for peace

[brittle prism]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/296377212939010050/1480773200265613584/ezgif.com-animated-gif-maker.gif

I'm not saying we are peaceful

But that we are a scion of the secret realm of peace

[digital swan]

active enemy combatants

[young sequoia]

changeling forget everything they trained in fruma

[lusty glacier]

can beasts/realms grant power they themselves don't have, or does the queen technically have the power of all the blessings?

[drifting aurora]

i didnt say itd be with release, i said we have an explanation for it but im unsure when we'll be able to get it in game

[wary lantern]

ohh

mb

[digital swan]

they have internal magic routers to forward blessings from the magicnet to blessees

[lusty glacier]

im just curious as to whether the queen would have time, matter and cosmic magic stuff if she didn't bless the sovereigns

[limber swan]

explanation for what?

oh I see

why the people in Corkus lost their memories

from Fruma

ye

um

why should they lose them anyway?

they aren't Fruma's problem anymore

[brittle prism]

Is it something related to bloomi?

morgor?

realm of craftsmas?

[frozen turtle]

I feel like the blessings may just be enhancers for magic the sov's already had

[dim plover]

Before reading up about Bloomi stuff I didn't actually expect it to be that hated

[limber swan]

or is it just cause you don't want Fruma spoilers ingame before you actually go there?

[dim plover]

I thought it was just a funny joke province running gag thing

[brittle prism]

what's the lore

[dim plover]

Is there even a singular lore for Bloomi

I think several people just decided to write their own Bloomi lore

[signal bough]

what's bloomi

[dim plover]

Idk joke province from back then years ago

Guys Bloomi Province is definitely real trust me

It's the plant province