📚lore_discussion

[violet anvil]

i could have sworn that was in reference to lari

[low rain]

I didn't interpret it as that, I saw it as Orphion talking about a new threat that is perpetuating the war between light and dark

I read that as a reference to the beast herself

[violet anvil]

but wouldn't the dern beast just be part of the regular war between light and dark

[earnest prairie]

bad joke i guess

i was joking about how the servers went dark for maintenance meant the dern beast won

oh wait u werent talking to me im stupid

[earnest prairie]

yes but also no. if darkness represents enroachment and light represents fortitude, then war represents action

[violet anvil]

what

[earnest prairie]

uhhh

sry im not the best at analogies when expalining

disregard what i said actually

i think im misunderstanding the sentence myself

[violet anvil]

fsir

but yeah i do just think the extra threat throwing off the war is lari herself

[cold cove]

I think we would also count, given that wetake the light's side as well

🏴󠁧󠁢󠁷󠁬󠁳󠁿

[hybrid gazelle]

Wait

Is this off map screenshot

[dry drift]

Old Fruman Language

[restive yacht]

Ig this is the new story spoiler Channel now

[slim belfry]

hey y'all did you know that in fruma
there will be mobs

[exotic bough]

Please spoiler this

[azure tangle]

idk if yall knew this

but the next major update will add the Fruma province

[exotic bough]

Damn it I thought it would add bloomi

[slim belfry]

no
batman dies in infinity war

[exotic bough]

https://tenor.com/view/lobster-react-him-lobster-react-thanos-gif-26859688

[untold warren]

Is there a significant reason why Player's memories were erased?

Wait no not tasim

[regal spire]

The same reason as everyone else who had them wiped

[untold warren]

Can't remember

[solar ingot]

guys guys

here's a big one

...

aledar dies 🤯

[full harness]

@mods ban this man for spoilers

[dim plover]

Wow the Fruma update is coming out I sure hope they explore the whole thing with the player’s origins and the amnesia stuff

[regal spire]

(We technically already got it with the ARG)

[hybrid gazelle]

You can learn that from fruma update,,,

That is coming soon!!!!!

[untold warren]

Whats fruma? I don't know that place

[restive yacht]

Unless u find out that aledar got revived by zhiraok on fruma

Did u get there yet?

It's in the missing piece quest

Btw guys who are you || burning on Celebrations in Smoke ||

[slim belfry]

actually ragni king revived aledar

those who know

[restive yacht]

Nobody nose

[hybrid gazelle]

Ragni king and seaskipper still has no portrait

This really make me wonder what they gonna do with villager down the line

[twin citrus]

im curious about that too

[slim belfry]

the fact we can consider a villager revamp coming up already is scary

[hybrid gazelle]

Because it clear that they are doing something about them consider not even portrait of them been made

[hybrid gazelle]

Villager revamp likely part of an update but we don’t know when

[twin citrus]

probably adding more variations of them is one

[hybrid gazelle]

It probably mid game since mid game is when villaher appear a lot

[twin citrus]

its crazy to think we've just had the same 3 skins for so long now

[hybrid gazelle]

Some villager like in hollow serenity use player skin

So that fine jt it just villager we have rn is so obviously the Minecraft villager

And their placement in the world also odd cause they are in gavel so like

Gavel is a place of high fantasy

And then there is literally villager from Minecraft there

So I feel like there doing something about it later down the line

I would like to totally spieces makeover to fit gavel thematic more

It either they will replace villager with their own original spieces or replace them with obscure spieces from general fantasy trope to make them fit in with elves and dwarves

But honestly I have 0 idea what other fantasy race they could pick to film in villager role

[slim belfry]

I'd assume that they'd have to still be similarly humanoid to a small extent

could probably make something up

[hybrid gazelle]

Yeah entirely original spieces probably one of most possible guess for what they do

I guess they could

Replace them with hobbits???

Or halfling a

I know they exist in wynncraft

But like

They nothing spieces lol so I feel like

[slim belfry]

could build off of villagers having more natural potential for magic

[hybrid gazelle]

Yeah but like

There nothing else in general fantasy race roster to fit villager descriptor

Maybe probably entirely original spieces

Having protrait mean they no longer relying on in game model to protray the character

I think whatever villager update will be probably will give off the same vibe as like

Those alien spieces from lower budget sci fi movie

[true gate]

also maybe im just connecting things wrong
but at the start of queens recruit tasim said that aledar wanted to talk to him about their silent expanse mission

after what we find out about it in a journey further, was tasim suppose to be the fourth?

[twin citrus]

yeah he was supposed to be the fourth

[true gate]

damn

[twin citrus]

you can find it out later in fruma, but theres a letter from aledar to tasim that asks him to be their fourth.

[true gate]

i see

how the tables have turned

[potent isle]

If you ask the SBHQ about the Silent Expanse lootrun, they don't know what you're talking about. They see there's documentation of it existing, and just assume it was you who put it there. The lootrun camp in SE is not run by Silverbull, it's some fucking creature pretending to be a Silverbull agent.
topkek

also
is it an intentional build decision that the dark forest's trees are built the same way as the eyeball forest's?

https://wynncraft.wiki.gg/images/EyeballForest.png?bf2b30=&format=original

[hybrid gazelle]

Yeah we see this in festival too

When Tasim mention being invited to a mission

[hybrid gazelle]

Probably Ywah

[potent isle]

trying to see if i can get a screenshot that shows what im getting at

[minor palm]

@everyone the fruma arg isn't solved. the timing was wrong, but a moth is not a butterfly, night is the time to speak.

[hybrid gazelle]

Damn that crazy

[untold warren]

Okay wait

If the queen is in fruma and the king is in ragni

Where are the prince or princess of them?

Do they have no heir just in case they die??

[hybrid gazelle]

They are separate civilization

So no

[untold warren]

Ah

[split night]

That is...??
Huah??
Have you met the king of troms and stuff like that

xd

[untold warren]

I lowkey forgot about troms

[split night]

have you done wynnex?

[untold warren]

Only Part 1

[split night]

YOU ARE LV 105 AND ONLY DONE PART 1??

[untold warren]

LVL 96

[split night]

still, Who teach you that powerleveling as your first time is okay??

[untold warren]

I watched a single olinus video

[wintry kindle]

[hybrid gazelle]

Also fruma heavily imply to be matriarchy

[untold warren]

Aight I'll try to finish all of wynncraft tomorrow, sorryy 😭🙏

[split night]

oh my boat, play the game properly with finishing all the quest and side quest and crap in chronological order xd
you just ruined your one chance of hacing fun

[split night]

No need to, like take your time

My first save is currently at 200 hours 92% rn

otherwise your time in fruma is gonna be ass

[untold warren]

I have summer break, and I'm still waiting for a pc upgrade and all i can play rn is minecraft modded

I think i can finish wynn

[split night]

neat, do all the secret discoveries too while you're there, it would help you make a better sense of the story and the wynniverse

[untold warren]

There were secret discoveries?

[split night]

please
there is a button in your content book that switch from Recommended Order to Content Progress Order, it would make more sense if you do that xd

[untold warren]

Ohh okie tysm! 💜

[split night]

the world building is okay ish, story is fine but the most important thing is that enjoy the game

[hybrid gazelle]

Yeah a lot of background lore is in secret discoveries

[split night]

don't power level, it would make your experience ass

[untold warren]

Is the "???" Relevant?

[split night]

No

[mossy badge]

Yes 🤑

[split night]

Don't do that one

[mossy badge]

Its very relevant

Do it

[split night]

save yourself from that one

[mossy badge]

Why would they not do it

If ur playing ts just play everything

[split night]

are you advicing them to torture themself? xd

[dim plover]

Kinda wish that was more obvious tbh

[hybrid gazelle]

It not that import in grand of scheme but like if you wanna do it go ahead

[dim plover]

I wonder how many new players don’t even know that the Content Book has a filter

[hybrid gazelle]

Wynnex probably rework in

Uhh 50 years

[split night]

... I thought it was obvious??
When i first play the game i set it to content progress and just play through it normally

[worn pivot]

what is content book

[hybrid gazelle]

The fact that it not in priority very telling of how it not that important to the current story we have

I mean it got some info but I still would not say playing Wynnex help me understand wtf going on war of the realm thst much

[mossy badge]

Idk

[mossy badge]

This random ass cave is much more important 🗣️ 🔥

[dim plover]

By rule of game design (That I just made up five seconds ago) there’s a high chance like half the playerbase won’t learn of a game mechanic if:

1. The game doesn’t point it out
2. They aren’t forced to engage with the mechanic

[split night]

I think I am an abnormality in the statistic

[dim plover]

Source: Years of me witnessing Wynncraft players missing the most obvious bs

I’ve seen people not even knowing the bank exists until like tens of levels after

(Because the game doesn’t like, point you in the bank’s direction so theoretically someone blind enough could just walk past it and never return to Ragni)

Of course it’s not all players who are blind

I’m just saying the number of people who fit into this category is not tiny

[split night]

I'd say there are a lot of instances of this happening in the end game too

like the outervoid

[dim plover]

It’s mostly why I’m kinda upset at Wynncraft’s current info transferral for Caves because it really feels like they should be the main source of free gear and weapons for players

[split night]

there is no quest that referencing the existent of the outer void

[dim plover]

But if players don’t know that Caves are this thing you do occasionally to get new stuff then they don’t seek them out

[split night]

it's really weird they didn't make one when they add it

[dim plover]

At least the Outer Void is kinda optional

Or rather not an essential game content

But Caves are like

The thing for item gain man

At least for players who are levelling up

[split night]

Rekindled world 2 when

fix all of these problem

[dim plover]

I honestly just Wynncraft to implement proper Cave tutorial

Not the funny stuff we get in King’s Recruit, people forget about that ten seconds after they leave the castle

And not Taking the Tower either, players don’t register that as a non-one-time game event

[split night]

honestly, they should have make the mushroom boss thing a cave

[dim plover]

We need proper Cave tutorial

[split night]

It seems like it fit to be a better tutorial cave than the piglin thing

[dim plover]

Having caves be part of quests isn’t really the right solution because the main goal I want is for players to get the idea that Caves should be done constantly across game progression because of what they are

Putting caves in a quest just gives them the impression that it’s a quest location and that’s about it

Rather than “Oh these Cave things with chests at the end appear all over the game I assume”

If Wynncraft had better incentives for players to do the daily objective then caves could be placed there more often idk

Literally anything that reminds the players that caves exist that isn’t like 1 time in the earlygame and never again

[split night]

If I have to be honest, I only actually do cave because I want to complete them not actually wanting the item within them
Cave feel optional for me, I only really do it when I'm in a new save and I know ahead which one give the best stuff and ignore the rest

[dim plover]

The book’s kinda not focus-friendly tbh

It’s all clumped in a mess by default so natural human behavior is that if something isn’t of current interest or desire your brain kinda just doesn’t register it

[split night]

I do agree on that end

[dim plover]

With the Content Book menu there’s so much random bs players really only focus on the next quest, which is usually what they open the book for

[dim plover]

Case in point this

[hybrid gazelle]

Ngl I wanna talk about protrait so much but idk if can post them since it might consider spoiler even if it’s for early quest

[split night]

It's only like

9 more hours or something?

just wait a little bit trashie

[slim belfry]

portraits are so good

[worn pivot]

I remember i found some secret discoveries in detlas, almuj and nessak by random and search them in youtbue cuz i didnt even know about wynntills or ingame settings

[slim belfry]

they're gonna help capture the feel of the current situation and expressions of characters

thanks tex and all the artists we all love your work

[split night]

Oh my boat
I can't help but imagine aledar portrait at the end of A journey's further

It's just gonna make that moment so much more painful 🥺

[slim belfry]

I did NOT think of that

holy shoot

[worn pivot]

I saw someone has wounded aledar from journey begin quest as PET - wynn devs are bad

[split night]

Like
we stab him and there's blood and everything
It's so bad but like, it's would be so peak
It would be cinema

[hybrid gazelle]

I think ct did some oopsie when it come to protray some stuff in the game

I think wounded Aledar cart is funny but like

In context of the quest thst it is in

Definitely tone deaf lol

It’s tone deaf in funny way

Also I really adamant with petting Orphion because like that mf whole personality is the “omg puppy!!!” For so long

Becuase there no other fragment of character to latch himself on

And petting scene reinforce that too much

[split night]

Morphion

[twin citrus]

aledar cart is so out of nowhere its kind of weird. like yeah it is funny but its just so?? strange??? especially with such a serious questline... idk. i love cart aledar but it was definitely weird

and honestly i forget that you can even pet orphion after the raid

but i always kind of assumed that interaction wasnt really canon anyways?

[hybrid gazelle]

Ajb and ajf is such a weird wuests befause it feel like

It try to please everyone

It almost like it afraid it would not capture everyone attention

So it just decide to try to be funny

When it should not be

[twin citrus]

yeah thats a good way to put it

[hybrid gazelle]

More “it would be funny if” and not “it would fit for the story if”

[split night]

I would be more happy if we were allowed to like carry aledar piggy back style

[twin citrus]

also now that i think about it, the aledar cart section is just weird in general. why are we stopping so many times to just get attacked by mobs? lutho is NOT that far. we can rush it.

[split night]

in ajb

[twin citrus]

i mean we did get confirmation that the player can pick up and carry other people so its entirely possible

[split night]

I find it neat that player Character also have the tendencies to push people off of high elevation
but I'm getting side tracked

I think if injured Aledar is really necessary, they could make it so like we carry him piggy back and get to Luthos

It would make more sense and more stylistically cool

I think if Cart Aledar have to exist, it would best fit to be an early game quest cuz the gag would be more impactful here and not feel out of place

like

[warm flicker]

Before the update drops, allow me to lore dump everything we know about Fruma from the sources we already have:

Before 0 AP
Humans establish ||Fruman colonies|| in Wynn

**0 AP **
Fruma closes their borders to Wynn, due to the Corruption Wars beginning

**850 AP **
A group of - presumably - factory workers escape Fruma by crossing the northern mountains. Their memories are wiped and they find themselves on an island that would one day become Corkus

900 AP
Sovereign Selium meets with the King of Ragni, informing the King that Fruma will begin the Recruitment Programme

900-1000 AP
Fruma sends thousands of recruits to Wynn via Ragni

995-1000 AP
According to Royal Report 1, from 995 to 1000 AP, 1,759 recruits have either been sent to Wynn or were casualties of the Corruption Wars in Wynn, of which 60% “followed programming”

1000 AP
In the Industrial District Slums, Caid and Edwin steal supplies meant for the Fruman guards. Caid, who had received multiple warnings beforehand, is arrested and sent to Wynn as a recruit, Edwin’s fate is unknown. Reynauld, an Imperial guard who looked the other way in exchange for emeralds, is also arrested after Caid is captured. Reynauld is stripped of his titles and sent to Wynn as a recruit

In the Espren District Slums, Aledar, a member of an “Insurgency”, is being chased by Imperial guards. In his escape attempt, he falls through the roof of a house and is knocked unconscious. The house’s owner is Tasim, who knows healing magic, and brings Aledar back to life. The Imperial guards catch up to Aledar and arrest both of them, Tasim being arrested for being a “Cursed”, presumably for knowing magic. Both are sent to Wynn as recruits

Fruman spies are notified of the player’s activities across the world, including halting Gavel’s Decay and solving Corkus’s Factory Incident

According to Royal Report 1, Corruption Rates are up 3% compared to 999 AP, and Undead numbers have increased by 4% in the same timeframe

Fruman spies also note how the Recruitment Programme is not sustainable in the long term, due to the increase in Corrupted numbers

The player intercepts a number of Fruman spies all over the provinces, sparking curiosity of the Fruman higher-ups in the player

An envoy from Fruma arrives in Detlas to inform the player of an upcoming announcement from Fruma

[hybrid gazelle]

||Before 0 AP stuff is getting retcon||

[warm flicker]

thought humans existed in wynn before 0 ap?

[hybrid gazelle]

||yeah they do but it not migration||

[warm flicker]

alright ill edit it

[hybrid gazelle]

||It's different colonies expand from the empire||

||also Gale being from Fruma is spoiler content|| @warm flicker

||the Nasin last name only put on the grave in Fruma expansion||

||You would not knwo this info prior to Fruma udpate unless you pick up hint and even then it not outright clear||

[pallid glen]

so, can we talk about fruma stuff here now

[hybrid gazelle]

No

Ijust trying to prevent spoiler

[pallid glen]

where’s the channel for that

[hybrid gazelle]

not a thing yet

[pallid glen]

ouch

[dim plover]

People have been talking about Fruma lore here for ages without spoilering them so I assumed it was fine

[hybrid gazelle]

if it about existing info that already in the game, then it's fine

like Fruma ARG or llevigar library or Recover the past

but if it any info that exclusive or been comfirm in the epxansion update

it should be spoilered at very least

[young sequoia]

what part in the game told that wynn is created by people escape from fruma

[hybrid gazelle]

llevigar secrect library

[young sequoia]

probably recheck it after update

see if they update the lore

[hybrid gazelle]

I am aware

[wispy flicker]

what is the lore implication of fruma being behind ragni since the us (the character we play) was brought by a caravan from there!

[spring kernel]

we originally come from fruma

[hybrid gazelle]

it's the fact that

the recrits are from fruma

[rustic nexus]

I can't believe wynn kicked me to the curb, needing to spoiler tag everything in here instead of freely speaking in spoilerchat,,,

[opaque remnant]

Yeah what’s with that

[rustic nexus]

idk why salted decided to do this

it's certainly the decision ever

I can't post the funny SPOILER gif anymore...

[quaint wing]

I wanted to ask, why does your character and the other 2 (I forgor their names) forget EVERYTHING about fruma when the bridge thingy happens???

[hybrid gazelle]

prettymuch yeah

[quaint wing]

Why does that happen tho???

Is it because of the queen???

From the expansion?

[hybrid gazelle]

hwow far are you into the game

that the question

[quaint wing]

Uh, spider queen dungeon.

[rustic nexus]

it gets explained in a lv25 quest

[hybrid gazelle]

keep playing

[quaint wing]

Ah

[hybrid gazelle]

well

not new ofc cause

the server close

but when it open yeah

[quaint wing]

Another thing, how long does it take to complete the main story?

[rustic nexus]

uhhh

depends

[hybrid gazelle]

uhhh

[rustic nexus]

my first playthrough was like, 4-5 months?

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah

[quaint wing]

WOW

[hybrid gazelle]

cause wynn does not really have main story

but if you wan to get to Fruma update

[quaint wing]

How much to 100% it???

[rustic nexus]

....

don't worry about it

[hybrid gazelle]

best I can say thta go through ROL and SE

[quaint wing]

Oh, ok

[rustic nexus]

to 100% complete the content book you have to do a really grindy part of the game

but if you really try, you can get everything done in under a week

which... I don't recommend

[quaint wing]

One more quick question, when can I do the quest needed to be able to reset your ability tree?

[rustic nexus]

the same lv25 quest

that explains the memory loss as you enter wynn

[quaint wing]

Oh

Neat

[rustic nexus]

[quaint wing]

Kill 2 birds with one stone

Alr, thnks.

[warm flicker]

millions must post Fruma releasing in 3 mfing seconds picture

[rustic nexus]

omg wait

I think that all of the ||fruman text in item lore is translated to english|| on the item guide

[slim belfry]

gosh yeah they are

[hybrid gazelle]

WHAT

WAIT

WHAT ARE THE ITEMS NAME

[rustic nexus]

there's one top level mythic

and then the ||forgotten chronicles|| set

it is like. just english lettering though

[hybrid gazelle]

||which top level one 😭||

[rustic nexus]

not directly english

[hybrid gazelle]

ah I see

[grizzled frost]

ah yes, my favorite language - gibberish

btw no need to spoiler tag the items anymore, they are all public in the wynncraft website

in the item browser

[azure tangle]

yea thats

where that screenshot was taken from lol

I also thought they said #🛑story_spoilers was gonna be open for some of the time post fruma release so odd that it was closed

[candid cliff]

kinda a weird choice overall closing it

[rustic nexus]

I'd still rather spoiler tag stuff

esp images

[warm flicker]

https://tenor.com/view/asdf-asdfmovie-i-can't-read-i-cant-read-punished-lion-gif-3532527054645921660

[shut hornet]

kms

i dont even know how this could happen

it doesnt do that on gm!!

OHHH this is on the website

[rustic nexus]

yea

[shut hornet]

ok i see

[brave rune]

crazy clickbait

[rustic nexus]

what

[brave rune]

||fruman text in item lore is translated to english on the item guide|| is clickbait

[rustic nexus]

...what

[summer bluff]

So... is this where we can talk abt fruma stuff or no

Bc I'm almost done with the dumb gikyo animation I'm making and it's got... the spoilers

[pallid glen]

I too, wanted to discuss post raid dialogue

[hybrid gazelle]

prefer if it heavily spoiler with a big warning

[summer bluff]

Everything is bad frumever

Like do we make a spoiler thread?

[brave rune]

it is a claim that grabs attention but is not actually true

[rustic nexus]

how... is it not true?

[brave rune]

its not translated to english

[hybrid gazelle]

actually yeah

[brave rune]

it would be nice if we had some more of that

[hybrid gazelle]

make spoiler thread

acutally let me make it

[rustic nexus]

I later specified english lettering, I just didn't go to edit my message to mention that

[hybrid gazelle]

reminder to not look at thread list because last message will be show there

which potentially could be huge fruma spoiler

[shut hornet]

its also fixed now

so

[hushed comet]

lore discussion wgat it is

wgat lore is being discussed in tung sahurssion

[hasty beacon]

https://tenor.com/view/triple-t-tung-tung-tung-sahur-tung-tung-sahur-tung-tung-tung-tung-sahur-tung-gif-11441479473369987242

[edgy loom]

you know I think there isn't enough corruption in wynn. ofc there's a lot in the plains, but in the desert there just kinda isn't anything

it's almost like there's more corruption in neesak, which is said to be less affected by corruption, than the other places

troms and the dernel jungle also dont have much I can recall

[tawdry mural]

i think corruption is underground

[buoyant depot]

we're often shown roots of corruption, yes

[signal bough]

nesaak has four spots in the north and a few tiny spots in the Lusuco canyon

[buoyant depot]

it manifests above-ground, but is mostly underground

[signal bough]

troms barely has any, but the dernel jungle has a decent spike protrusion

[buoyant depot]

and it makes gathering koi really freaking obnoxious, forcing people to go to gelibord instead

like the ocelots werent annoying enough already before this map update 😭

[candid cliff]

well troms was saved

I think the only thing in Nesaak is the ones where Nesaak only starts?

[split night]

I think Trom and Dernel is just very lucky that it is next to nesaak and surrounded by mountain, blocking the corruption and that It is also saved

[candid cliff]

Twains are the goats

Now imagine if they actually worked together

[split night]

I wanna imagine they act more familial together 😔

[hybrid gazelle]

we dont really know the condition of wham ake the spike grow yet

[split night]

They sounds so happy as kids

[hybrid gazelle]

but consider it spread its root from underground

it very unlikely for mountain to be able to stop it

we dont really have detail on what extactly call these spikes to surface

[signal bough]

there's a few small protrusions south of ToA

[split night]

How deep does Theorick's ice goes really?
It seem like the corruption maybe hidden withing the depths of nesaak, It just can't grow up, like plant in the winter except this winter will last very long

[hybrid gazelle]

it very inconsistence

form the cutscene he freeze the area in the center of the Nesaak village

which located here

like so far the rest is like reasonable

but SOMEHOW

it spread to deeper nesaak

these area

literally like

there is no reason for Twain ice to reach here

[signal bough]

we see people frozen in ice in a cave in the lusuco area

[hybrid gazelle]

yes we do

which is like

how

[split night]

that's referenced in a quest

[azure tangle]

isnt Theoricks mansion that building next to TOA

[hybrid gazelle]

shit each to these area

[split night]

xd

[signal bough]

yeah it does seem colder in the south

[signal bough]

yeah

[azure tangle]

makes sense

he froze nessak and kept freezing the rest of the area

[signal bough]

oh right

[hybrid gazelle]

the only explaination here is that these area once frozen but then thaw out by corruption

[signal bough]

he's still alive

so he can still freeze stuff

[hybrid gazelle]

he freeze stuff once and then go to the ice barrow to seal himself away

[split night]

I'd imagine the part near tower of ascension is recently frozen
Although not specifically reference anywhere

[signal bough]

the epicenter would be in the ice barrows

[hybrid gazelle]

Also Theorick Manor likely getting retcon

[signal bough]

nah cause of the people frozen solid in the ice

[hybrid gazelle]

because according to the CT, it's not in character for Theorick to own it

[signal bough]

damn

[hybrid gazelle]

because he is not TAHT greedy
he only want payment for survival

it's a job for him

[azure tangle]

it could just be a naturally frozen area

TOA at least

[signal bough]

only quest featuring the local Nesaak govt.. retconned...

[hybrid gazelle]

it really not because the fact there is a bunker that imply it was not frozen

and we dont know much about TOA

[split night]

Yeah It was very weird when I do it after all the secret discoveries around Nesaak xd
He's a hero, not an ass capitalist

[azure tangle]

then theorick froze more before he sealed himself away

[hybrid gazelle]

that would not be possible

because the whole point of that cutscene is that

his freezing is his last ditch of effort ot "save" nesaak

before he seal himself away

so he cant go on to do more

that was his last

[azure tangle]

does he seal himself in the cutscene?

[hybrid gazelle]

anything else, he would be consumed by corruption

[split night]

huah?
Isn't the cutscene really say that nesaak before look lusk and not a bit of ice?

[hybrid gazelle]

yes

he literally go into the barrow LOL

[split night]

yes

[azure tangle]

ive not dont the quest in years

[split night]

xd

[azure tangle]

im just genuinely asking

[uneven basin]

Maybe cosmic magic with the toa had a special interraction with theorick's ice? Xd

[split night]

I think it's best we not touch cosmic magic now

it's weird as hell

[signal bough]

there's a lot of 'what the hell is this' in wynncraft

[hybrid gazelle]

we have no proof of TOA play a part with THeorick's ice

so we are not sure

[signal bough]

the tower of ascension, bob's reincarnation, uhhh

[azure tangle]

consequences of reworking part of an area

[hybrid gazelle]

again Nesaak area is very outdated content

so it likely we will get revamp these area around

IDFK 2 years or osmething

[azure tangle]

Lusuco has been left in a ditch for years yeah

[hybrid gazelle]

consider they probably focyus grandually updating early game now that Fruma is out

[split night]

Wynn revamp AFTER Gavel Expansion 2

[hybrid gazelle]

well

WILL be out

Ct mention because that it unlikely we getting another big area update

[azure tangle]

sub level 30 is probably finished

[split night]

I want RoL rework more

[azure tangle]

for now

[hybrid gazelle]

it just going to get grandual change

literally the only area that possible to have entire update dedicate to it is COrkus Island

[split night]

If the rumor is correct
I'm glad the writers part of the ct finally get to write something beautiful

[hybrid gazelle]

only becuase Corkus is even smaller than Fruma LOL

not even counting the wasteland

like Corkus just smaller than Fruma

Almuj Desert likely getting quest makeover next

either that or savahanna area

[split night]

I think the fact that Corkus was mentioned a lot before Lv80 just make me thought that it was gonna be very big and have a lot of stuff xd

[azure tangle]

probably both in the same time Savannah has nothing

[uneven basin]

I think savannah is fine being a transition atea

[signal bough]

it has that weird building

whats up with that

[hybrid gazelle]

I think Lava Spring need some update

be ause it literlaly make 0 sense with current info about corruption that we have

why does this corruption

has a fucking heart

like why

[uneven basin]

I mean personally I think lava spring was a mistake

[hybrid gazelle]

I mena yeah sure

I think cthere al ot of quest could be better

but like IDK if anyone willing to hear that yap because it like

it not that big of a deal

but I just think like "oh it could be nice if these things get change"

more thjan "THESE THINGS MUST CHANGE"

quest like angry vilalge and more

Actually no Nemract area deserve rework

like

srly before we get to desert

that shit need rework first

Nemract is BARELY a swamp

[uneven basin]

Nermract city is basically 12 years old

[hybrid gazelle]

Nemract town need a lot more than just

overgrown foiliage over the house

cause even then I highly dbout the residents would let their house be that overgrowth LOL

it more like ancient village with nobody live in for a while

than port town that constnatly keep getting attack

like incomplete wall

destoryed house or something

I think that would be nice makeover for Nemract town

[uneven basin]

Yeah the straight up dirt and grass inside the houses bothers me

[hybrid gazelle]

literally like

no way the house become this bad even if you have undead keep raiding it

ACTUALLY

[split night]

Nemract is a slum but that's pretty weird considering they are the main port area of the province

[hybrid gazelle]

having undead raiding it would make foliage less of a sense LOL

I think Nemract being a slum can be a good way to show how much villagers change society in Wynn

because of their airship system

making port town not really that needed and it's HUGEEE competition to Detlas

I think that could potentially reate intresting dynamic

between Nemract and Detlas

because like srly what else to trade from the ocean LOL

Corkus likely also advance neough to have airship to use Detlas airbase

[uneven basin]

Then we'd need a more developped airport in detlas

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah

that what we need

[signal bough]

alternatively its high water mark would have been recently, given they were still mostly using oceangoing vessels a hundred years ago when cross-oceanic travel became possible

[split night]

Huh?
I'm pretty sure there is an airship fast travel in Corkus City

[hybrid gazelle]

nope

[signal bough]

oh yes, Corkus to Kadon-Beda

[hybrid gazelle]

Detlas do not have fast travel to Corkus

[uneven basin]

Uuuuh durum wheat? Xd

[hybrid gazelle]

but yeah

if you said Kadon beda then yeah

[hybrid gazelle]

that for Selchar

you can read it in world discovery

and even then Ragni already provide food for rest of WYnn province

and ternaves

so Nemract would only get stuff from Durum Isle to support themselves

rather than sell it off to other cities

[uneven basin]

In general it'd be neat of airship travel felt more, spread, like at least across gavel cause rn it's very limited, for example llevigar could use an airport it doesn't even have to have fast traval

[signal bough]

I presume it has an element of real-life air travel where airships mostly carry passengers and high value goods

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah

we see this in Detlas airbase where there inventory containning all import/export goods

[uneven basin]

Yeah and quarry has no airships at all it's odd

[hybrid gazelle]

and also it comfirm that Detlas use quartz in their weaponry

so large amount likely exported from llevigar through airship system cause I THINK

we see quartz in the airbase inventory

I HTINK

I might need to check it again

but I am sure I see it

and the state that Nemract is in

make it very unappealing location to send your goods too

the town is heavily underdefended

with raid happen often

[uneven basin]

Currently it seems quartz is exported by road to cinfras were it is transported across the world through the airbase

[hybrid gazelle]

Detlas is by far the most safest route to transfer your goods

[split night]

It's a port town where you stuff might get destroy on the way to whoever you sent stuff to

xd

[hybrid gazelle]

also not to mention

IF you send your goods to Nemract

they have to transport their way from Nemract to Detlas

which them risk the caravan under attack by the undead

and consider nemract barely can afford guards to defend their town

I highly dbout

they can for their caravan

so yeah Nemract by far worst option to transport your goods

[signal bough]

maybe after the player blows up the three big bads in the region Nemract will finally get a break

[hybrid gazelle]

likely yes

with Charon gone, Nemract have chance to recover

[mossy pendant]

fruma

[hybrid gazelle]

on topic of fruma

[split night]

seems like it
killing Charon in the dungeon would solve the raiding problem

[hybrid gazelle]

what you guys think about seperate thread with for different fruma quest

[signal bough]

back to #🌎wynncraft with ye, low intelligence specimen

[hybrid gazelle]

so you can log your own experience

[tawdry mural]

do that fruma diary thing?

[hybrid gazelle]

Kinda yes

[tawdry mural]

thats pretty fun to read

[hybrid gazelle]

and you can discuss story

[signal bough]

I think there's already fruma threads here

[hybrid gazelle]

yes i made it

but it for GENERAL fruma spoiler

including all the post story

and not something in between

[uneven basin]

Be nice to see the positive impact you have on the province be reflected like with the fallen Factory

[split night]

Average https://discord.com/channels/143852930036924417/1399831978072739901 people talking to other wynncrafters

[hybrid gazelle]

so my idea is that making thread for EACH fruma quest

or at least EACH chapters of Fruma story

[tawdry mural]

i shall say that the fruma story consists of the player brining in all their contacts for a giant showdown with all the big bads

and they say

“wynncraft… assemble”

[hybrid gazelle]

so like

[signal bough]

yes but can I call my corkian contacts

[split night]

I'd agree
I want to feel like a hero 🥹

[hybrid gazelle]

Which option better
Thread for each QUESTS

or Thread for each CHAPTERS

[signal bough]

CHAPTERS???

[hybrid gazelle]

yes

fruma questline dseperat by chapters

[tawdry mural]

there are thumps from my oven and i am too scared to look into it

[split night]

10 MORE MINUTE UNTIL FRUMA IS OUT
and 2 more hours until the gate open

[hybrid gazelle]

so that why I am asking like

do you guys want thread seperate by chapters or indivudal quests

so it make loggign your epxerience and discussion wayyy more easier

without fear of spoiler

so for example if you done with all auburn chapters
you can join in Auburn chapters thread

[uneven basin]

I agree with the chapter threads

[hybrid gazelle]

alright

I will set it up later

[signal bough]

thoughts?

[split night]

why is SE and the Jungles looking a little low quality?

[signal bough]

cause they're unfinished 😭

[rotund gust]

they took our story spoilers from us, this is where we turn

story spoilers is no more more

[uneven basin]

What's the train of thought on separating the ice region and the Wynn plains ?

[signal bough]

cause we don't see the wynn military active in the region, or really any military in nesaak

[hybrid gazelle]

yeah Nesaak is a village

there literally now ay there millitary

that entire area is isolated LOL

I think every settlements in Wynn province all under one alliance

well except Rymek

[signal bough]

the theorick manor quest is the only indication of a government

[split night]

Rymek citizens are capable of defending themselves i

xd

[split night]

what??

How did you got that from the quest?

[hybrid gazelle]

Home coming Thread(Req. A Journey Home)

[signal bough]

yeah, bunch of people pooling resources to import stuff like corkian drills and do a large-scale project with a lot of manpower

[hybrid gazelle]

I probably will gradually add more chapters later on

Don't check it yet

[signal bough]

the actions we see happening takes a lotta money and manpower

[split night]

For what in nesaak

where is this even referenced

[uneven basin]

That just goes to show how the centralized government of Wynn has a hard time givikg actual support to the most isolated places of the provinces imo

[split night]

I think cut them some slack, they have been at war for 1000 years xd

[signal bough]

so the quest begins with you going into a cave in the Lusuco area and there's a bunch of people working on mining ice to try and get a key to the mansion

[uneven basin]

But I like the idea of dividing Wynn in "subprovinces" even if it's wholly unified

[split night]

Oh you are refencing that quest, not the manor one

1 MOREM INUTE TILL FRUMA

[uneven basin]

That's a long time to get organized just saying x)

[digital swan]

wynn has no central government or central military

all the cities have their own kings and their own commanders

[signal bough]

iirc there's a distinction between being a Ragni recruit and a wynn soldier, and we don't see military figures such as Takan or Amerigo operating in the Ragni area

[naive snow]

the rate limiter going crazy rn

[digital swan]

wynn units are generally combat ineffective so everyone stays in their cities, why the fuck didn't Ragni occupy all the formerly corrupted cities after Bob beat off the corruption to form a unified and stronger wynn province under the rule of the Ragni king

[split night]

Wynncraft channel is going through insanity rn

xd

[split night]

Wynnex probably

Ragni King seem to know about it but he is powerless against it

[uneven basin]

He got paid off by wynnexcavation to keep the province weak trust my agenda

[naive snow]

im sorry for salted bro

channels go crazy rn

[digital swan]

shoulda taken the Russian model then, dictatorship + oligarchs

[tender cape]

gerneral absolutly not useable rn

[hasty beacon]

If he opens fruma they will fall silent

[split night]

I don't think he's that bad really
He seems like a really good king, no one has complain about his rule in ragni for a while

[hasty beacon]

Until everyone gets stuck in the queue

[split night]

He probably just like Trom's King

[robust coyote]

priority queue on top

[signal bough]

there may not be a central govt, but the Mercenary features a Nemractian general leading a rebellion in Amluj against aristocratic commanding officers

[split night]

Actively hating wynnex, they just can't do anything about it

[digital swan]

a system that DEFINITELY doesn't have a quintillion downsides

[naive snow]

def

[tawdry mural]

holy those channels are scaring me

[hasty beacon]

Been spamming the server refresh button for 7 mins straight

[split night]

Me too

xd

[tender cape]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/262067534482767872/1490048818740465947/wherewynn.gif

all the time

[tawdry mural]

GET AWAY FROM ME

[split night]

Please don't start this in Lore discussion

[tender cape]

like 100 messages per second

[split night]

I'd actually hate that

[tender cape]

no no

i wont

just example

sry for scaring you guys

i know its horror

[modern elbow]

its hell over there

[tawdry mural]

wynns worldbuilding is a frankenstein of old quests and new quests struggling to reconcile with each other

[main kiln]

Lmao

[tender cape]

hahahahaa

[tawdry mural]

i also wanna note how tiny the “kingdom” of ragni is

[hasty beacon]

A 12 hour slowmode wouldnt be able to stop it

[split night]

I think with time this will be resolve with update slowly changing quest over the course of time

[split night]

so is Detlas I'd say

[tawdry mural]

bro i can like rlr rrr rlr rrr across your entire lifes work

[split night]

Ragni is actually pretty big comparing to the rest of the town

[tawdry mural]

it truly is

[hasty beacon]

Had to put on the big screen for this

[split night]

Frusanity

[signal bough]

from Admiral Aegis, a Detlas commander: 'a traitor in OUR ranks'

[naive snow]

u should play on lunar

[hasty beacon]

Ew

[naive snow]

says a feather user

[signal bough]

don't forget just occasional jokes

[hasty beacon]

Im not on feather???

[obsidian granite]

feather tuff

[exotic bough]

fandom wiki detected. use wynncraft.wiki.gg instead. fruma content will be on there as well

[tawdry mural]

we honestly just dont know because wynns worldbuilding and government would be a nightmare to explain in an engaging way

[naive snow]

mid

imo

badlion better

and badlion is bad

[split night]

yeah use wynncraft.wiki.gg
it's more accurate

[fleet hill]

just use prism launcher

[obsidian granite]

u can use ANY mode

[naive snow]

mode?

we talking launchers

[obsidian granite]

mod

sry

[naive snow]

oh right

lol

[digital swan]

he's a mercenary, the Almuj guys are his ranks

there's historical precedent for this

the French used to do it a ton

[tawdry mural]

honestly a funny quest would be helping the seaskipper file/evade his taxes and the player would inadvertently expose some corrupt official while helping the seaskipper

[naive snow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/262010576295821312/1489939717217849354/caption-1.gif

lmao

[signal bough]

I paid close attention to all mentions of politics and government in wynncraft

[hasty beacon]

11 mins late what is ts

[naive snow]

what fruma does to normal poeple

[split night]

I fucking love my GOAT Seaskipper

I'd do anything for him

[tawdry mural]

ikr

[naive snow]

cant blame em, its worse than a SAB event bro

except they aint got robloxs servers

[tawdry mural]

a jolly villager to share nemract whiskey with

[hasty beacon]

Dont bring that garbage in here

[split night]

He give us the nemract whiskey too, several times

[signal bough]

I am cursed with the knowledge that the villagers have a federative republic

[tawdry mural]

every checkpoint we get a nemract whiskey and we’re told to drink

[naive snow]

says the guy who has a brainrot as a discord name..

[tawdry mural]

no wonder nothing gets done

[hasty beacon]

Uh no im frum not tung

Foolish

[naive snow]

true

[naive snow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/9mc-smile-cat-sad-so-lGBecpB2dIMwt6ohfI

i just got shiny costumed dragonite on pokemon go WWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW

W event

W fruma

W wynn

W server

W games

[signal bough]

can u not

[split night]

I think https://discord.com/channels/143852930036924417/262010576295821312 is no longer occupied by normal people no more

[digital swan]

send admirals over to regimes they liked and shore them up
think Admiral Jean Baptiste Marie Dayot, who led a fleet of French battleships in Vietnam in the 1790s as part of a naval force under the direct command of Nguyen Anh (rather than under French command)

[split night]

It gone full insanity

[tawdry mural]

i should really examine the quest dialogue for the mercenary is that where the name comes from

[naive snow]

its what fruma does to normal people

[tawdry mural]

i just thought it was a holdover from the old quest having the player being an assassin

[naive snow]

is it in 2h??

[signal bough]

im sorry vro, there's just nothing calling them mercenaries

[naive snow]

they changed it?

[digital swan]

neither did Dayot
The french called him an "adventurer" rather than a "mercenary" because who the fuck calls someone they like a mercenary
mercenaries are bad

[minor citrus]

I'll move to this channel cause #🌎wynncraft is pure chaos

[tawdry mural]

hello do you like lore

[minor citrus]

Not a big fan

[split night]

https://discord.com/channels/143852930036924417/262067534482767872

[azure tangle]

surprised a slow mode hasnt been added yet

[tawdry mural]

uh- okay

[split night]

then go there

[split night]

Prelude to annihilation

[digital swan]

deportion

[rustic nexus]

I can't wait for people to react like this again after the lore reveals in fruma

[split night]

https://discord.com/channels/143852930036924417/1399831978072739901 people only welcome one of our own

[dry aspen]

ppl be like "wait I have to read? what is this nonsense, a book? I watch too much TikTok to indulge in PLOT-BASED MEDIA."

[pine forum]

whos ready for realm of light 7

thats what fruma has right

[dry aspen]

6

[signal bough]

I think, from the dialogue, that the theory that there is a unified military command in Nemract, Detlas, and Almuj is more likely than Detlas having a weird system like that, especially cause Amerigo has the same rank as Aegis

[pine forum]

no theyre skipping a chapter like those edgy indie horror games

[dry aspen]

truuuuuue

[split night]

I think for a chance of survival, government around wynn probably did that

[pulsar rock]

ITS OPEN

[dry aspen]

sweeet

[split night]

THE WYNN GATE HAS OPPENED

[signal bough]

I will report back with discoveries from those new weird mountains

[digital swan]

see yall in a month ima wait for all the excitement to calm down before I enter fruma

[dry aspen]

the queue is going faster than i thought, nice

1 position every 10 seconds or so, thought it'd be slower

[hybrid gazelle]

cutting chapters it pretty good for story progression and it does not feel like it just one big story to go through LOL

it pretty nice

Leaves in the Winds Thread(Req. RIF)

[signal bough]

cant find anything but a small odd camp

[hybrid gazelle]

The Steel Feather Thread(Req. EoC)

Amongst The Canopy(Req. TC)

The Blossom of Blades(Req. ATS)

yeah that should do it

[split night]

Hi trashie, im here after I play fruma, it was really peak

[hybrid gazelle]

amazing

[fossil depot]

fru8ming

[uneven basin]

Nothing of note in the camp ?

[signal bough]

not really

[split night]

Im actually genuinely suprised that the potion got a new look
they look so amazing now

[uneven basin]

I went to the new bremminglar mountains there is NOTHING in there

[pine forum]

the new dialogue is so much more fleshed out we're winning

[slow grove]

on Bremyn-Hierra is an npc that guides you to a cave with loads of salmon spots and gives you some background info on the place, idk if you also talking about that place

[uneven basin]

I was thanks for the info

[slow grove]

Np!

[hybrid gazelle]

Brimminglar lore drop is not something I expected lol

[signal bough]

I found the cave but not the npc

[slow grove]

It's on the top of the mountains, he has a little setup there

Npc is called something like old fisherman

[signal bough]

found a winding cave system but not the npc

[uneven basin]

I think the Npc is more on the sea side, but I didn't go look so grain of salt

[somber venture]

No more spoiler channel so i can ask here right

[exotic bough]

https://discord.com/channels/143852930036924417/1490018575162020042

[jagged turret]

does telling or not telling tasim have any effect on the story ?

[uneven basin]

Nope

[exotic bough]

maybe

[rotund sphinx]

Am I missing something? Picard is mentioning crackingthe memory spell but iirc that wasn't done in Recover the Past

[paper wyvern]

thats literally waht recover the past was

[modern thicket]

||is the alternate Tasim dialogue not implemented yet?||

[fossil depot]

no

[restive yacht]

guys wtf did they remove Tasim alternate dialogue path

or did i miss something

i have to be missing something

like

wtf

dude

[slim belfry]

unfinished

lex couldnt get it done in time

[restive yacht]

OK SO is it scrapped entirely

[slim belfry]

no

it'll be added when done

when that is idk

[limber swan]

are you kidding me

[slim belfry]

nope

[limber swan]

I thought they were saving it for release

[hallow vortex]

just me or is this tnt puzzle just not working

[limber swan]

they litterally said they were

that implies it was finished

[hallow vortex]

like the bomb goes off, and the next ones dont get triggered

[limber swan]

but its not finished?

[hallow vortex]

and when it does, it delays like 10 seconds and 90% of the time doesnt trigger the next

[shut hornet]

it was being saved for release because it wasn't finished

[limber swan]

oh

[fossil depot]

what is still pending for fruma

[shut hornet]

lex had to do dialogue for The Missing Piece because it had a fucked up timeline and didnt really make sense, and that took longer than she expected so she didnt end up having time to finish the ||tell tasim route||

[fossil depot]

besides tasim's dialogue and the wastelands

[limber swan]

fair enough

[shut hornet]

1 aldwell library book and a bunch of aelumia library books still need adding (this is on me)

[dim plover]

Is the flag for ||telling Tasim|| still in Queen’s Recruit

I’m like semi-okay with stopping before the dam quest but I kinda also want to enter Fruma before that

[wary remnant]

One message removed from a suspended account.

[restive yacht]

the 1 thing u could have done better was to hide this info, not be transparent, and make us feel like we missed something on a second playthrough after some months

that's probably worse for some people ngl

there's an issue, if u die to Syndra on first encounter u spawn back in the caravan btw

it might be a range thing from the position of the room

yes i can confirm it's a range thing

in someplaces it spawn u in the caravan

[shut hornet]

what

[restive yacht]

idk i would have raged and felt better about it afterwards

xD

that's my opinion, it's not agreeable

[pallid glen]

did they remove the ability to tell tasim

I just finished queens recruit and I swear I never had the option

[spring kernel]

temporarily yeah

[pallid glen]

what

okay but like

can I go back afterwards

and redo it

[spring kernel]

no

[pallid glen]

:(

why not warn people there was a missing dialogue option?

so everyone who plays it when it comes out doesn't get forced into one choice

well tbf I have multiple characters

[restive yacht]

ye my mage is ruined now, guess i'll replay it with my arch

[pallid glen]

oh hey I managed to break queen's recruit

when you're being marched by commander liles into fruma,

you can just, mount a wyvern and fly away

oh but if you fly too far you get teleported back

nevermind

[pseudo pawn]

I'm already past the point where you could tell Tasim the truth, if I just wait for the other route to be implemented and don't complete the quest, will it just reset? Or am i screwed over?

[pseudo pawn]

I wish they did warn about it too, it really stinks because in one of the fruma discussion a dev said it'd be out on release, and it was like the one thing I wanted to do on my main 😦

[paper wyvern]

yeah I literally didnt find out until I reached the conversation with the queen

[pseudo pawn]

same

[paper wyvern]

and then someone in guild chat went "the illusion of choice"

[safe iris]

I feel like there's a lot of cool areas in wynncraft that you only ever go to for 1 quest and then never again

[paper wyvern]

why yes that is half the map

[safe iris]

😭

[paper wyvern]

gylia plains is definitely the worst offender though

[pallid glen]

what about that level 90 quest

where you go INTO DERN

so like

the cursed one report

[pseudo pawn]

idk maybe they could make it so if you haven't complete queen's recruit yet and want to do truth route, you can just do /fixquest to put you back to the part where you can choose the option

[pallid glen]

does it ever become useful

[signal bough]

if you look up at the top of the canyon you can see very sick but normal trees, so unfortunately its just a part of the SE you never see again

[digital swan]

I bet 30 it's just since they copied over some section of map, carved the canyon, and hoped to hell nobody looked too closely
cf. literally everything else in Wynn rat

[signal bough]

no, it had the sort of leaves you see in death's realm and that ancient nemract snapshot

[fossil depot]

who cares

nobody is going to remember this the next day

i barely remember yesterday's convos i was in

[restive yacht]

i guess

[shut hornet]

its fine

not telling tasim is the "canon" path anyway

[hybrid gazelle]

Yeah thst what I take it as

[shut hornet]

at least, the way you're intended to do the quests

[tawdry mural]

the player just sucks at talking to people

[hybrid gazelle]

It’s pretty much the default with the later being “do this when yoh know everything”

[restive yacht]

yk we don't like canon ways

[tawdry mural]

they say "you too" at the waiter after they get their food

[restive yacht]

maybe cause it isn't us

[hybrid gazelle]

I always imagine it’s the intended experience

||because it make his dialogue in overture more impactful|||

[limber swan]

why would that be the canon path?

[hybrid gazelle]

||I can’t even imagine how it would turn out if you did tell him the truth cause like lol||

Also big fruma spoiler

[tawdry mural]

||agreed, its a much bigger gut punch than having tasim be mad at you at you being the one who killed aledar||

[hybrid gazelle]

And look I see what going on during hte beta

The ct try their best to make it in time but it just what it is

[drifting aurora]

ultimately a mistake was made in having that split available at all during beta

[hybrid gazelle]

It’s fine if you see the rest of the updare

[shut hornet]

i cant rly explain in full until the tell tasim route is out but. ||obviously there is a cool story moment in him being mad at you later for not telling him, because you couldnt bring yourself to||

[hybrid gazelle]

Yoh will understand why some these dialogue are not finish by the time of release

[restive yacht]

i do, we already talked about this. What i got from the discussion we had is that the alternate path was meant to merge in the same conclusions anyway,

[hybrid gazelle]

Yes

That why it not worth the delay for

[restive yacht]

ig this was the issue in the first place?

[shut hornet]

imo its flawed in general cause everyone defaults to wanting to tell him and the element of it being too hard to tell him because you'd feel bad doesnt really hit

but oh well

[restive yacht]

it doesn't make sense for tasim to be mad at us after we were honest to him

||ig a split path would open if we weren't specific enough to tasim to tell him we killed aledar?||

[hybrid gazelle]

Okay can we

Spoiler this please

Like

[exotic bough]

oh is the tasim route not out yet

[shut hornet]

it was very much supposed to be an obscure and secret alternative to the regular plot progression

[hybrid gazelle]

This is literally recently released content

[pallid glen]

I mean, I feel like it'd be a lot less cool if the player WANTED to tell tasim but couldn't

[limber swan]

trashie its not our fault they took down the spoiler channel

they took it down on short notice

[restive yacht]

obscure???

holy this is new

[pallid glen]

yeah I don't think I've met anyone that didn't want to

I mean

[tawdry mural]

i missed the insanity of that channel

[pallid glen]

think about how every other quest works

people die all the time

[slim belfry]

there are people that didnt know you can press on

[hybrid gazelle]

The way to trigger this route is very hard befause you go through a lot of dialogue during the beta

[shut hornet]

you cant do it unless youve taken every single other opportunity to try telling him in the quest

[restive yacht]

lore about it went crazy when we figured how to do it, there was some demand for it

[hybrid gazelle]

And yeah

[pallid glen]

also it's disabled currently

[restive yacht]

i did it first try, cause i knew until there was no repetitive dialogue i had to keep spamming

[pallid glen]

same feeling as the raid dialogue tbh

because like

[hybrid gazelle]

I think it just people unable to sympathize with Tasim because the game did not really let you build a bond

[restive yacht]

i did it on my first playthrough

[hybrid gazelle]

That good for you

[drifting aurora]

such was the original intent, at least; it did not really end up working that way in the final version of the quest

[pallid glen]

||the moth is all "oh no why you killed me I was your best ally against the others"||

and like

[hybrid gazelle]

But other people don’t kneo

[pallid glen]

you can't NOT kill her??

[shut hornet]

there isnt enough content in the game to show how much aledar mattered to tasim

[pallid glen]

like oh I'll just do the pacifist raid run next time

[hybrid gazelle]

This is spoiler please spoiler tag it

[shut hornet]

so you dont really see a reason not to tell him

[pallid glen]

that's fair, I mean they have a lot more screentime than say, lucio

[hybrid gazelle]

Like I know you being very vague

But like jsut be safe

#1490018575162020042

Go to this theead

[shut hornet]

in the future there will be more content with them, and it will work better

[restive yacht]

there's a Hunter's calling

u see them fight sync

[pallid glen]

Discuss the lore of Wynncraft! Spoilers are allowed.

[limber swan]

I guess this is the first update where the player is a character

huh

[pallid glen]

• the channel description

[slim belfry]

AHC barely showed their relationship fleshed out though

[pallid glen]

also AHC is an alterate world or whatever

[hybrid gazelle]

Then fine

[pallid glen]

I wouldn't take everything that happens there as canon

[shut hornet]

ahc if anything is detrimental here because tasim puts his grief aside for the sake of the battle if you kill aledar first

[restive yacht]

❌

i mean, yes but actually no (?)

the 1 lutho quest with mirrors and ur reflection

[slim belfry]

I mean
we can all spoil bomb a lot of the story in a single message

[restive yacht]

ig

do we know why tasim didn't show up to A Journey Beyond?

[hybrid gazelle]

He late

[restive yacht]

ah

...

[hybrid gazelle]

It been said in festival and the queens recruit

[restive yacht]

ik in queen's recruit he mentioned it, isn't it kinda weak tho

[hybrid gazelle]

Not really

[restive yacht]

unless a journey beyond was completely unexpected, also if aledar and tasim were so good friends, why wouldn't we wait for him, we had plenty of time to fight the wither

[hybrid gazelle]

If we take all context given to us and recently adjusted ajb

[tawdry mural]

it was an emergency

[restive yacht]

wasn't everything kinda sealed

[hybrid gazelle]

We would know that player just walk in there and join the group to be the fourth

However Aledar hint the fact that the admiral want the mission cancel

But the moment he see the player join in, he decide to go anyway

Which then get comfirm in queen’s recruit

[restive yacht]

mhhh ig it works

[hybrid gazelle]

Where Tasim said that the mission thst Aledar invite him to was cancel

So in the event of AJb, the mission never suppose to happen and called off

Likely also started off sooner than expected consider Aledar intend Tasim to be here

[slim belfry]

what the HECK

is story spoilers gone for good

not even read only archive?

[hybrid gazelle]

So far it seems

[slim belfry]

rip

[hybrid gazelle]

I will wait for some patch to roll in before finally play fruma

I already experience the story so I have no rush

[slim belfry]

same

I'll lootrun while waiting