GETS German Extra-Zoom Trains DevZone

[wraith kiln]

that's some team effort :)

[stray nova]

looks good but i wouldn't cut it

issue is the scale will make it look wacky asf

the dosto DVT's already look weird

[wraith kiln]

how much shorter are they compared to the dostos?

[stray nova]

I think by like a metre and a bit

They are quite small

You can feel it sitting downstairs on em

[wraith kiln]

25,9 against 26,8

Powercar: 25,9
Middlecar: 26,8
Unpowered Endcar: 27,2

but: since possible lengths are 230 and 246 vx, i'm not sure if it'll be a good idea to shorten the powercar.

[wraith kiln]

current status of Wrmh Dining Cars

[ocean roost]

Dosto in TRI-Livery

[wraith kiln]

Dosto is full, no more space available.

[stray nova]

lmao

bbbbbbut its a gen 1......

[golden nexus]

gen 3 though?

[wraith kiln]

well, there is exactly room for 1 (one!) more Gen 1 Dosto.
The problem is not really the DVT (there would be space for 1-2 more), but the coaches are kind of packed.

Afaik, there is no Gen 3.

[stray nova]

Technically you can call the facelift Gen2’s gen 3’s

The ones that look like the twindexx

[wraith kiln]

You guys know, that with the current status of coding, there is already more than 10% of the maximum available vehicle-ID's coded? > 1.200 ID's with max of 12k for articulated vehicles

[wraith kiln]

ATM the differentiation is less the look but more the speed/capacity. Gen 1 is 140km/h, Gen 2 is 160 km/h with Capacity differing only a tiny bit.

[stray nova]

Gen 1

Gen 2

Gen 3

[wraith kiln]

This is GEN1. - what you've shown is GDR-Stock.

Your Gen 3 is in my table as "IC 2" - i know they're used as Regio's, too.

[stray nova]

You get some wacky shit too

These were converted from them

[stray nova]

On a note the original gen 2 face were modelled off this

Rather than the other way around

[golden nexus]

ive always known them as gen4s

wha

[wraith kiln]

the confusion comes from DB/DR differentiation.

[stray nova]

If you count all the Dostos from both DB and DR there are wayyyy too many to make any sense of

[wraith kiln]

What i've got labelled as "Gen 1" is the 1.st Generation that's been designed by DB. if you coun't in DR-Stuff, that would be Gen 42 or smth like that

even that's technically incorrect, given the 1950's stuff, both long and short ones.

[outer saddle]

no gen 1 is even older

[stray nova]

If you count DR yes

These were made in both west and east

[outer saddle]

The DB ones are direct decendends from the DR dosto's

[stray nova]

Or well no

They were made post division

So some were made just to enter DB service

[wraith kiln]

DBz 750/DABz 755. These were the first ones after "Wende"

[outer saddle]

these were original built for DR too.

[stray nova]

Yeah

But also for DB

Hence why it’s in GETS and not DDRETS

[wraith kiln]

you're mixing up stuff i guess.

[stray nova]

Probably

[wraith kiln]

This one is the first new built Generation of Dostos after Wende:

[outer saddle]

yep.. and they are the third iteration of the dosto cars.

[stray nova]

If you count DR

And for ease we aren’t

Because we will have a separate set for that

[golden nexus]

i know those as gen3s

might be wrong idk, thats just what i know them as

[stray nova]

Yeah it is if you count the DR stuff

And we aren’t

Because it’s easier to do them from either west Germany or combined Germany

We will have another set for DDR trains

With all the older Dostos

[wraith kiln]

with all the funny liveries :)

[stray nova]

I want my DR130

Oh my

Ohhhhhhh yesss

[wraith kiln]

3rd Gen of Dosto/DB should be the Twindexx; 4th Gen the Skoda München-Nürnberg Express ones.

even though idk how to differentiate what we have as 2nd Gen from 3rd Gen. But comes time, comes knowledge.

[stray nova]

Loading speed?

Or remove the older gen quicker so that the newer one comes into replace it

[wraith kiln]

same amount of doors.

i mean, they're more than hard to distinguish in reality.

[stray nova]

All it is really is a facelift

So like it could just be a more expensive version with slower cargo ageing

[wraith kiln]

maybe it's an idea to have the Twindexx's just as a variant/Facelift of the 2nd Gen.

[stray nova]

Nah

At least not the EMU one

[wraith kiln]

na, only the DVT

[stray nova]

You could maybe do that….

[wraith kiln]

EMU is an EMU

[stray nova]

I’m not sure tbh

I would prefer a separate listing for it

Maybe cargo ageing is best?

Or people will pay a little extra to travel on the more expensive Dosto

Or it has lower maintenance costs but higher purchase costs

[wraith kiln]

Cargo Aging has little to no effect if you're playing "regularly"

[stray nova]

Hmmmmm

[wraith kiln]

I'd go for lower maintenance/purchase. Maybe add some standing capacity (9€ Ticket, anyone?)

[stray nova]

Yes

That would be an alright one

[wraith kiln]

Given the 9€-experience, id Set capacity to ~500 per Coach.

Loading speed: infinite time, doesn't leave station.

[stray nova]

I know people who did Friedrichshafen - Sylt in one day

Fuck me that would have been hard

Rough day

All ok €9 ticket

[wraith kiln]

I did Frankfurt- munich on a weekend.

[stray nova]

That sounds horrific

[wraith kiln]

Made it Till nuremberg. Then rock im Park, Bad weather and broken OHLE Happened:D

Stranded there for hours, until they put us all in the last ICE of the Day.

[stray nova]

Sounds about right

Mid 9€ ticket season last year I was stuck in Köln for 5h waiting for DB to unfuck themselves

Got the ICE in from Hamburg that morning

Was connecting through to Mainz

So I decided the best course of action would be to get the Rhein valley train down

They also let people with that ticket on

I was standing between bikes the whole 2 ish hours

Fucking horrid

[wraith kiln]

doubt you could enjoy the view :D

after all that sounds like the typical 9€-experience: totally packed trains.

[stray nova]

It was very pretty

Shame I was on a night train the night before

Delayed departure from Malmö

On time arrival in Hamburg

Disgusting

[wraith kiln]

usually its the other way round - on time till german border, massive delay inside of DE

[stray nova]

Worst thing about it was as soon as we got to Flensburg we just sped down to Hamburg

Like wtf

I don’t recommend it

Should have gone all the way to berlin to get more sleep

[wraith kiln]

you went Hamburg -> Köln -> Mainz -> Berlin?!

[stray nova]

No I went Hamburg Köln Mainz Heidelberg but gave up at Mainz and stayed with my cousin

Could have done Malmö - Berlin - Frankfurt - Heidelberg

If I did that I would have had 2h extra sleep

[wraith kiln]

that's a tough ride for one day, tbf.

no matter if Berlin or Köln

[desert python]

We hit a limit for xUSSRset already.

🤣

[wraith kiln]

maniacs :D

is that the reason you're gonna split into 2 grfs?

[desert python]

Use xUSSRset addon for exactly this one.

[desert python]

Yep + faster compilation.

What gen will this be? Gen -2? 🤣

[stray nova]

These are already in no?

Oh

No

Uh there like the fucked one ain’t they

[desert python]

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doppelstock-Stromlinien-Wendezug_der_LBE
They are. But also the first DVT ever.

[stray nova]

yeahhhhh

[ocean roost]

OR , VR and IC-Livery are still missing?

[wraith kiln]

had the time to finish this one. Coding still missing though.

[ocean roost]

:oo looking good!

Btw

is it possible, that the Dining Coaches and then the Gesellschaftswagen, etc can give more incoming?

[stray nova]

been a while since ive mentioned this

done the first car now

[wraith kiln]

They can't generate more income, but since the accountant in me knows that profit=income-cost, dining coaches reduce the cost of all express passenger coaches in the train to 0.

[stray nova]

thats similar to what PolTrains3.0 does

sorta

that set has some mental coach logic tbf

[wraith kiln]

They're currently set to a break even of ~3,5 coaches. So the train gets more profitable ones you have 4 coaches. This is done by higher costs than for the dining coaches in relation to the fitting express coaches.

In addition to that, dining coaches reduce the aging of passengers. A fiddly thing which doesn't work to good without very long distances.

[stray nova]

the stuff in relation to breaking power is really fun to mess with if you know what your doing

but only if you know

its hard to work with

[wraith kiln]

i always found this a bit too fiddly, tbh.

[wraith kiln]

lovely thing btw :)

[stray nova]

yeah it's decent but the second car is going to be really hard

some help would be needed

tbh this might have been me biting off more than I can chew

[wraith kiln]

well, it looks dope, if you ask me :)

(forgot to mirror it, but already sick stuff :)

[wraith kiln]

once i've got more time for pixeltrains again, I'll try to help you.

[outer saddle]

Gen 0 dosto?

[bright flame]

I think they got that one

[desert python]

Yep, already in.

[wraith kiln]

They're called "1950s Dosto"

[wraith kiln]

Is it the Hentschel e1200?

[stray nova]

i would guess so

[wraith kiln]

Coding update:
-Wrmh Dining Cars
-Shimns covered Coil Carriers
-Slps-U Steel Sheet Carriers

Got a questions for the Slps-U Carrier: Which Cargoes should it carry?

[desert python]

Steel, Sheet Steel. Steel slabs probably.

[wraith kiln]

What do you mean by Steel Slabs?

I've got these ones as Steel-Cargoes for FIRS/ECS/XIS

[desert python]

One in FIRS5...

STSB if I remember correctly...

Well, both Carbon Steel and Alloy Steel may be in sheets.

Stainless steel too, but my graphics are kinda rusty...

Sections and rod are definitely no.

[wraith kiln]

Did it like this - for XIS it's Steel + Aluminium, for FIRS its Alloy Steel, Aluminium, Carbon Steel and Steel Sheet.

[desert python]

http://www.zackenbahn.de/elektrische_triebfahrzeuge.html Found a good site for older stuff btw,

[wraith kiln]

Lovely ancient electric 😍

That site is quite Good for all the Kpev-dinosaurs.

Also quite interesting for old stuff is http://rbd-breslau.de/fahrzeuge.rbd-breslau.de/index.html

[stable sphinx]

An articulated loco?

[desert python]

http://www.rbd-breslau.de/71-tips/13-westmodel_ep_211-212/ep_211-212.html One I've used for references for this one!

[desert python]

should be, but OpenTTD cannot bend 4.5 and 5.5 long locos properly

[stable sphinx]

I’ve been wondering how to handle articulated locos tbh

I plan to make the fs 656, its predecessor and the Swiss crocodile among other things

The crocodile has 2 articulations

Not sure if so many will look good in game though

[wraith kiln]

Next small coding update:

Aaaand a question for the Twindexx: I've known of 3 and 4-part consists. Now i've stumbled upon a picture of 5-part. Does anyone now which consists exist in regular service?

maybe @ocean roost you know smth?

[violet python]

@wraith kiln 3,4 And 5 Car Units And Also Sometimes 2 Car Units

[wraith kiln]

thanks man, that was fast.

the 3-car ones always have the 1st class compartment?

[violet python]

No Just The 446 Units in Frankfurt Sometimes

And The 1 Class Units From Hamburg Butt they have still some Problems Buttvnow there Drive Kiss units

[wraith kiln]

mhm, if both is possible, i'll just randomise the middle one.

[bright flame]

That looks... Intresting

[violet python]

And wait The middle Cars can Drive with Normal Doppelstockwagen Cars

[wraith kiln]

i'm aware of that one.

[violet python]

Ok

What Is with The IC2 Cars they also Twindexx?

[wraith kiln]

they'll come, too. But EMU comes first :)

[violet python]

I found a 6 Car Unit

And this one

[wraith kiln]

mhm, is that 6-car one in regular service or was it just smth like a testrun?

[violet python]

And Maybe This Talent 2 From National Express?

[violet python]

It a Regular RE From Frankfurt To Würzburg As in German Called Verstärkerzug

[wraith kiln]

interessant, die Würzburger RE's kenne ich nur als 4-teiler.

[violet python]

Ach du kannst deutsch das wäre ja Gut

[wraith kiln]

ja, wir sprechen hier eig Englisch damit jeder folgen kann :)

so we got 2,3,4,5 and 6 part consists. all in red and Nah.SH.livery.

[violet python]

Ist zwar aus Transport Fever aber wäre doch Lustig bis der Desiro HC kommt

[wraith kiln]

is that a real thing or smth fictional?

[violet python]

IT was a Concept Before the Desiro HC Units with The Twindexx untis

Butt Now Just Fictional

[wraith kiln]

possible, but i'd kinda stick to what's real - imho that's enough stuff to do.

[wraith kiln]

current Regio-Twindexx lineup

[outer saddle]

2 car looks weird. was that really in passenger usage??? or just a transfer run.

[wraith kiln]

I dont know. Google only shows the same 2-part Nah.SH picture. Might've been a Transfer, so I can surely leave that one out.

Since vehicle IDs are kind of a scarce ressource, ill skip the 2-part. Mostly, cause I'm sure, at the time I finish loading sprites someone will come up with "what about stadler Kiss?!"

[violet python]

The 2 Car Units Ar on Servers Just have more Problems with The Lights und passenger Systems

@wraith kiln Found 2 more Concept skins From Nah.SH

@wraith kiln And Metronom Butt The Cab Car Version without pantograph

[wraith kiln]

Metronom is a DVT, not an EMU.

[violet python]

Yes Butt they Planed EMUs To test

[ocean roost]

The Twindexx consists out of 2 Locos and conventional coaches.. I thought i saw a 6 Coach unit in Würzburg once

[ocean roost]

I already draw it

[violet python]

OK

[ocean roost]

herr

here*

[wraith kiln]

as i've said, vehicle ID's are kind of a scarce ressource, so i'll stick to things that are real and in service.

there is already plenty of Metronom-Stock in the set :)

[violet python]

5 And 3 Car?

[wraith kiln]

more Talent liveries will come, too :) just need more time to do stuff :D

[ocean roost]

Yuuup

[violet python]

OK they Planed some other skins If i know Something New i let you know

[wraith kiln]

thanks for that one :)

[violet python]

No problem

Is The 422 and 430 Also Planed? BC they have also Nice Skins

BR 422 Skin DB Normal

BR 422 Bundeswehr

BR 422 Wuhan China

BR 422 S-Bahn Rhein Ruhr

BR 430

S-Bahn Frankfurt Gateway Gardena

S-Bahn Frankfurt grünerfahren

S-Bahn Frankfurt Normal

S-Bahn Stuttgart normal And new

[wraith kiln]

might come someday, but neither today nor tomorrow

[violet python]

OK

[desert python]

Have made 422 from 423. Only issue is size. They are longer than 423 but not enough to be 1/8 of tile longer. I kinda made them 1/16 longer but that requires tests and special coding.

For that 1/16 I mean that consist should add one more 1/8 somewhere in between and realign all sprites accrodingly.

not sure if it still necessary... We already kinda make some stuff shorter that should be.

[wraith kiln]

sorry, i don't really get what you mean by here.

[desert python]

Lets say original 423 is 7-7-7-7 (train length) consist.
422 will be 8-7-7-7 or 7-8-7-7 so there is additional 1/8 of a tile in train length that is split up by two heads.

Middle wagons are same graphically though

[wraith kiln]

did someone do stuff like that before?

i can't imagine how to code that, as I'm quite sure, if i'll do half-length stuff, that'll be glitching as hell.

[desert python]

You already did

Any 8+ vehicle rely on same things

It's more of alignment issues with that added length.

I should show it with renders...

[wraith kiln]

smth like this glorious painting?

[desert python]

If I understand it correctly - yes

[wraith kiln]

like you have the actual graphics (in red) which are overlapping in relation to the coded ITEM_TRAIN in black.

that could eventually work, as long as the complete consists is exactly x/8 vehicles long.

[desert python]

might not be an accurate representation of x/8 but should show an idea

if I count pixels right, Original 423 is 11-9-9-11, while 422 here is 11-9-9-12

with middle wagons being offset by 1/16

[wraith kiln]

I'll give it a try after the twindexx is done. It's possible to code, although that should be an exception.

[desert python]

I believe there are some similar trains. Like 422 and 430

Could be Alstom Coradia too (1440?)

[wraith kiln]

Not sure about that. Anyways, before you start putting effort into that, it would make sense to give it a test, as I'm not entirely sure it'll work out.

[desert python]

that's why I haven't made any more than 422

or S3/6...

later should be continued though...

[wraith kiln]

S3/6? Thought we did come to a solution with that.

[desert python]

we did a test but I forgot about it

🤣

[wraith kiln]

Ah gotcha :)

I forgot about my 52, too.

[desert python]

Since test were good, why we haven't added S3/6?

[wraith kiln]

Probably the coding guy was bitching about some useless stuff again. Idk.

[stray nova]

Yeah it runs

U see it sometimes running as extra stock on the Frankfurt - Wiesloch RE’s

Beef up another 4 car Twindexx

[outer saddle]

is that 2 powercars or a powercar and cabcar?

[stray nova]

2 powercars

[violet python]

Look Good

[outer saddle]

idk i can't find any pictures of zweiteilig twindexx

[outer saddle]

that must be a temp consists or else the amount of 1st clas sis rediculous

keep in mind twindexx is basicly a motor car/loco and "normal" dosto's so you cna theoreticly make any combo as long as the motorcar has enough power to move it.. even this works.. https://www.flickr.com/photos/lumixfan68/36033944152

So you get all kinds of weird combo's outside the regular service, jsut inke with ICE1/2 motorcars...

[outer saddle]

This picture for example says in it's description it was an empty stock run.. from dresden to kiel.

[violet python]

I Saw one in Cologne For Testing before the Desiro HC AS a 6 Car Unit

And i saw The 420 Plus

Its Not in Servers anymore bc of many Problems

[stable sphinx]

will you guys do the schienenzeppelin?

[stable sphinx]

oh shit lmao

[spare gorge]

will it have a rotating animation

[desert python]

Now it depends on one who will code it.

[wraith kiln]

guess that's me. and guess, i'll fully animate it.

[stray nova]

Didn’t realise how bare the skin of it was

[violet python]

I found News From Germany New Alstom Corradia Stream HC Trains For DB Regio Nah.SH And Niedersachsen

[desert python]

and here's news from past

[ocean roost]

Uuuuuuuh yeeeees

[wraith kiln]

Oh dear, another new MU.

Based on the 614 I guess?

Although you've done great work, I think the front could be optimised:)

[stray nova]

nah don't think this is a 614

look at the undercarriage

[stray nova]

ow mate i cannot be fucked lmao

[desert python]

Based on 614, early VT23

[stray nova]

fuck NAH.SH

[stray nova]

oh damn

nice

[desert python]

624 will be new cabs only, this have different underframe and front

[mortal bobcat]

trains

[ocean roost]

Other way round guys, the 614 is based on the 624

[ocean roost]

Im actually playing my Southern Germany Map, and there is one important BMU missing 🙂

[desert python]

I'm saying what I used as base, not how it was IRL

[desert python]

PESA? 🤣

[ocean roost]

Aaaaah i okay my bad

[ocean roost]

Well... yeah but no xD

[desert python]

there is no fast DMU after 614 in set btw...

all tilting stuff is missing, ICE TD...

[ocean roost]

I proudly present you the Steckdosen-IC,

[ocean roost]

Oh yeah, 610, 611, 612 and the 650 are missing very hard

[desert python]

650?

[wraith kiln]

My bad @desert python 😂

[ocean roost]

515

[desert python]

not enough shuttles?

[ocean roost]

nono buddy, the 515 was a mile stone for short and middle ranged distances

[desert python]

I mean, you've mentioned 650 first...

[ocean roost]

605* whops

And more of a niche:

And in its second livery with the black "V"

[outer saddle]

i think you should add a vox to all windows on th underside

[desert python]

Windows untouched from 614.

M.. i imagine that shape will be off if one row added at bottom

[desert python]

No actual use for this one, but I do kinda interested in that paintscheme

[desert python]

This one should be orange/brown

[wraith kiln]

hope that's enough Twindexx-Variation:

[ocean roost]

looking good (y

[ocean roost]

im in a mood to draw a new 101 Livery x)

[stable sphinx]

whoa

that's a nice livery

classic feeling

[desert python]

I've made it I believe

[wraith kiln]

yepp, that's done :)

[desert python]

it have different roof, which was painted later,,,

and no red stripe

one that made

[ocean roost]

yes, that one has a different colour scheme

[desert python]

in that case this one looks more interesting

or this one

Or maybe this one?

But honestly I'd prefer to see new paintschemes for locos that lack them, like NE81, BR 152 or similar

[wraith kiln]

please - even though they all look very nice - refrain from going like "every paintscheme there ever was". This is packing an already very big grf with even more stuff, that would better be spent by trains which aren't in by now.

[ocean roost]

Yeah i know ^^

[wraith kiln]

there is already 13 different liveries for Br 101 ;)

[desert python]

what is the limit though? 64?

[wraith kiln]

in this case? 13 :D

most of them are coded as one variant, but the overall place for vehicle ID's is getting a bit crowded in this section:

[stable sphinx]

||time to break GETS into several grfs||

[stray nova]

never

we will hold the record for largest GRF

i think were 3rd behind 2 CZTR sets

[wraith kiln]

250MB right now :D

[desert python]

hm... is there any pictures of 515 with other rolling stock nearby?

looks like it is longer and lower than I thought...

[desert python]

Well, found good enough pictures of 515/815...

I'll start them after coffee break

[ocean roost]

Allright guys, im starting my scanning of my round about 1000 train magazines, maybe i can post some interesting threads time to time

[desert python]

Welp, it's only model I have on this PC... It's gonna be a lot of changes!

🤔

🤣

Sorry Wyndbain...

[stray nova]

horrific modifications

[desert python]

I'll keep tracks inside

[outer saddle]

are these Br101 in there yet?

[stray nova]

uhhhhh

maybe?

i remember doing the blue one

[outer saddle]

wasnt that the rdc one?

[desert python]

it was

brain charter

[stray nova]

wyndbrain charter you say?

[stray nova]

well then no

[bright flame]

looking nice!

[ocean roost]

🧠 🚋

[desert python]

there's secret inside! 🤣

I don't have link to drive on this PC so here you go!

[stable sphinx]

time to cheat and fill mine with a 4k video demonstrating how each vehicle should be used

[desert python]

@wraith kiln , can you render it? Want to check that nothing of it's past is showing through...

[mortal bobcat]

you could cheat with a long readme

[wraith kiln]

Yeah, ill be back on my PC in about an hour.

[desert python]

or make an unbuyable locos with 256 of 8k sprites (not sure about limits though).

[mortal bobcat]

true and sounds

[ocean roost]

Would be making sense, like Steamlocos, Diesel locos, Freight Coaches, Passenger Coaches, etc

[stable sphinx]

we alreadu have sounds

[mortal bobcat]

yeah

[stable sphinx]

yup

but i wouldnt do it like that

too organised imo

[wraith kiln]

@desert python

[desert python]

Then let's make it random! Cargo steam tank engines and 1980-2010 EMU in one, 266 and mail coaches in another and so on!🤣

[desert python]

looks good to me. Nothing "special"

well, after zooming in there is...

[ocean roost]

Surprise box x)

[stable sphinx]

not quite that random

but my idea wouldnt work

[desert python]

Have you changed model? Cause logo is on a wrong side of a door...

Uploaded fixed model on a disk

[wraith kiln]

No, I didn't even open the file, just a quick render.

[violet python]

New 4 Car Desiro ML Coming to The ÖBB

And also The First Akku Flirt is on testdrive

[wraith kiln]

They look perfect. I'll care for some more of your stuff this weekend :)

[bright flame]

Hi, I've found another bug regarding the BR 644 Talent. When the doors open it adds another door while the other one remains closed.

[wraith kiln]

Thanks for reporting. This one is solved:

[desert python]

Middle wagon doors are still off

[wraith kiln]

i've noticed the second the screenshot has been posted :D^

[gritty condor]

Im not sure wether this is a bug or a realism feature.

[ocean roost]

Ayo found something

The ET25 was a 3-Part EMU

But in the set its only a 2 part one

[wraith kiln]

The rebuilt ones after the war. They been mixed stock, mixed from et25, et55 and et31 if i recall the "we only have beaten up shit"-era correctly. Ill be home later, and ill check my sources:)

https://de.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/DR-Baureihe_ET_25

Check the history part :)

[ocean roost]

Aaah okay i see

i was just curious about it, when i looked up for train compositions for my route Stuttgart-Tübingen, and then there were so much ET25s

so many ET25s*

[wraith kiln]

All that old stuff has been refurbished in Cannstatt, new head, and mostly 3-part consists. Quite a mess, like everything after the war. I've had the Kato N-gauge Et25, when I was younger :)

[ocean roost]

And then, there was the goofy looking ET27

But its still pretty interesting, especially the arrangement of the livery

The first coach of this train, is for prison inmates, its basically a 3yg, but it has only 2 axes instead 3

[outer saddle]

wtf is this.? some prototype?

[ocean roost]

There were only 5 EMUS from it and it only served for stuttgart public transport

here is a sidepic of it in Red

[subtle vector]

Hi I want to create some Turkish trains just to begin with do you guys have any vox files for train templates? Or do you guys just draw everything from stratch?

[wraith kiln]

nope, we don't start everything from scratch. Once you got a few shapes done, most stuff is kinda "kitbashed". Just like in real life, we re-use parts again and again.

You'll find most models over here: https://github.com/GarlicBread42/GETS/tree/411d8c1e05021926f1a9d2cdf5e505a0ac8afacf/Voxels/Fertiges

They're sorted after type, and all GPL v2 - if you need any help, please just ask :)

[subtle vector]

thanks

I will definetly need help in the future but I'll just begin from the start first and get the hang of it a little bit

[stable sphinx]

are you wanting to make extra zoom stuff?

or standard

[subtle vector]

standart is fine but i think using magickavoxel is easier for me

[stable sphinx]

i'd reccomend looking at @silver echo 's gitthub

at the danish trains

GETS isnt designed for standard zoom, 2tt's danish trains is

[subtle vector]

i'll also check them too thanks im all new to this github stuff and couldn't locate any vox before

i've also wrote a letter to turkish goverment lol

[stable sphinx]

what for xd

[subtle vector]

i don't know if they take it serious or not but i said there is no info on tcdd (turkish railways) or any other turkish website about history of trains and they should add the trains to somewhere

[stable sphinx]

there's no physical turkish train museums?

[subtle vector]

there are some i think but i didn't check their websites good idea

[stable sphinx]

its probably better to contact them than the government

[subtle vector]

hmm they wouldn't care too i think but i'll try thanks

[stray nova]

https://www.vagonweb.cz/fotogalerie/TR/index_TCDD.php

modern turkish coaches

[wraith kiln]

http://www.trainsofturkey.com/pmwiki.php/Main/HomePage

including steam engines, modern rolling stock, urban transit, links to museums, networks, stations and so on :)

in the meantime, have some dining coaches:

question: I could raise the pantographs when loading - just for the lolz?

(and yes, Wynd, these are yours. Just small changes to fit other stock :))

[stray nova]

this was my question

it would only really be accurate if the loco's decoupled

and what if its running on unelectrified track

would just look silly then

better if kept down unless someone specifically asks for it

[desert python]

That can be checked as well

[wraith kiln]

well, on unelectrified track it'd look silly - but on electrified it'd kinde be funny, i guess.

[violet python]

I Hope The Desiro HC Get at least The RRX ODEG And Bwegt Versions

[stray nova]

should get all

not many to add

[violet python]

Butt The ODEG Ones are 4 And 6 Coaches And From Go Ahead 5 Cars

And The Israel one has 3

And 6 cars

[desert python]

Doubt Israel one will make it into GETS 🤣

[violet python]

How about The ÖBB talent 3 And Bwegt talent 2

[stray nova]

if we are still planning ÖETSI then the talent 3 might be good

[violet python]

Ok

[stray nova]

I have already been planning coaches for CHETS

[ocean roost]

ÖETSi and CHETS are beautiful names xd

[stray nova]

aint bad is it

I'm hoping CHETS will be done with narrow guage stuff

because thats what me is planning

along with BLS and other privatbahn

Actually if @nocturne wyvern is gonna do Dutch something I have coaches for him

[nocturne wyvern]

This is not in the near future at all

[stray nova]

I have NS UICx for you

And maybe ICR if I finish it

[outer saddle]

we need FRETs. with just french freight trains

[wraith kiln]

Todays breakfast is proudly sponsored by Ronald McDonald

[wraith kiln]

Do we want these as randomized liveries, too?

[desert python]

Isn't there quicc-picc in Ocean blue too?

[wraith kiln]

yes, there is :)

[desert python]

So, make it OB?

[wraith kiln]

both of course :)

[desert python]

Not sure if there is not a quicc-picc OB

[wraith kiln]

i'd do them as a variant, where you either get red or blue.

[desert python]

Oh, there is something neat hidden behind too!

[wraith kiln]

it's this one:

[wraith kiln]

spotted: Bi-Level LBE

[desert python]

Fun fact: I wanted to buy that model and don't remember if I actually bought it... 🤣

[wraith kiln]

it's acme, i remember them as very good but expensive as hell D:

[desert python]

I wanted an a panto-restaraunt, but it was pricey...

A.C.M.E is indeed a good ones.

I do have IC white panto though....

Fleishmann?

[wraith kiln]

purple or the boring white ones?

[desert python]

White with small red stripe

And wasn't Purple a SBB ones?

[wraith kiln]

i've reffered to the one with the stripes, like 90's paintscheme.

[desert python]

These?

[wraith kiln]

yeah

[desert python]

Nope, not that one

[wraith kiln]

these ones you mean? EW IV i think.

[desert python]

It is...

Well, I tried to find it at shop website and they did a new arrivals in june!..

One of models I'd like but... Price!

[wraith kiln]

Official fx rate would be around 600 Euro

[desert python]

Didn't know there are eurodual H0 models!

[wraith kiln]

It's described as Sudexpress, but has hvle livery?!

[desert python]

Sudexpress seems to be a manufacturer of model

[wraith kiln]

ah gotcha. been a long time since i bought model trains :D

btw: the price for V188 is fine. Roco Germany sells it for 545 EUR

[desert python]

Found it!..

[desert python]

Good to know that I'm just a cheapskate 🤣

[wraith kiln]

i've honestly expected a much higher price difference given the current situation.

[desert python]

Now that's something I'd consider buying!

Would be a good company for my ESU wagon!

[wraith kiln]

possible additional GETS-livery?;)

[desert python]

Don't think so

It's never used in conventional operation

Only as a service vehicle

https://www.sudexpressmodels.eu/catalogue/2

Ooo... They are planning to make all these paintschemes?

Before you ask: No, I won't make these!

[wraith kiln]

:D

too bad :)

[desert python]

Oh, I have a question! Is there a way to use different .json for different vehicles?

Recently I found out that there is a smoothness setting in palette json

[wraith kiln]

that's entirely possible

[desert python]

I'd like you to make smoothness +1 instead of -1 for ICE then

For white colours

They are first in palette

Report results before and after.
Should be a drastically different

[wraith kiln]

i'll check it, gimme a minute

mhm, i can't seem to find the option "smoothness" in Timberwolfs docs

[desert python]

It's in palette file

I wonder why Zeppelin was so smooth while ICE is not. Found answer there.

[wraith kiln]

smoothness+1

smoothness -1

not that big differnce, right?

[mortal bobcat]

it is quite noticeable

[desert python]

Try ICE3

[wraith kiln]

yeah lol, the front/diagonal things above the window

[desert python]

I'd try myself, not at PC atm

[wraith kiln]

new json

old json

[desert python]

I think choice is obvious

[wraith kiln]

yh, definetly.

I'll re-render all the ICE's then.

[desert python]

Also, what is that?

🤣

Looks like nose is poking from another side

[desert python]

I'd consider other round'y vehicles too, if shadows are noticeable

[wraith kiln]

i'll take a look, too. But first: Some work for me :)

[desert python]

Ok! No hurry!

[wraith kiln]

@desert python this fine? If so, i'll do the other ones next week

[desert python]

Great! There are more spots that improved. Like shadow below red stripe or end of wagons on diagonals (according to previous test)

[ocean roost]

Love it!

[wraith kiln]

what else should be re-done (except for ICE-family)? Any suggestions?

[desert python]

103 Rail Adventure?

420 may be?

[wraith kiln]

i'll be fine with rendering most of that stuff. Offline for the weekend (Festivaltime, yeah :D), but starting monday, i should have enough time to do all that stuff and catch up with coding.

[bright flame]

Hello I found another bug regarding the liveries and the years that they came out

[violet python]

Not really The color Verkehrsrot came For All locos Not at The Same time

[bright flame]

Im in 1975... The oceanblue just appeared

[outer saddle]

there is also some randomization of introduction dates in the game afaik

[bright flame]

hm didnt know that

[mortal bobcat]

Two years at most

[desert python]

Yep, ±2 years

Issue in this case is why Traffic Red available in 1975

[bright flame]

yes

[desert python]

Unless there is change date cheat involved, it shouldn't be available

[bright flame]

Nope im playing on a server with a friend and we didnt turn on the cheats

[wraith kiln]

Just a Reminder for myself.

[wraith kiln]

Thanks for reporting, that bug is solved right now and will be in next release :)

[wraith kiln]

BR 52 and Schienenzeppelin are in now, most ICE's re-rendered with the new setting

[stray nova]

I think we need to look at some more modern EMU’s

Flirts, Desiro’s, Kisses, Skodas

[violet python]

Hmmm Maybe Flirt 3 And 3XL?

[stray nova]

Flirt 1 already in

The modem just needs a bit of tweaking

If that’s done all we need are new head and tail cars

[violet python]

OK what about The Flirt 1 in Maybe New skins?

Maybe Flirt 1 Eurobahn,DB,Cantus And Westfalenbahn

And for the Flirt 3 we have a lot Flirt 3 XL VRR and SBH And Flirt 3 From Abellio Süwex DB, Westfalenbahn

And what about The BR1440 Corradia Continental From Alstom

[stray nova]

like i said needs remodeling

[wraith kiln]

If im not mistaken, I got some blueprints of Desiro somewhere on my hdd. Might Take that for 0.5 (0.4 is... already very much passenger stuff, and id like some more freight)

[stray nova]

yeah .5 can be EMU update lmao

[desert python]

Integral is not modern enough? 🤣

[stray nova]

not sure

could be

[desert python]

But it's not EMU ...

Well, seems we are lacking EMUs...

[stray nova]

that would be a deal breaker

[desert python]

I guess there are few more DMU not coded yet and that may add to the restaurants to make theme of 0.4.

Modern EMU could be main of 0.5.

[stray nova]

yeah

[desert python]

Also there is like only BR102 left for modern E-locs

And 128

And all except few non AC locos from ~1930 to nowadays will be in.

There are a lot of early designs of 1910-1930, which are worse than locos already present in set.

[wraith kiln]

plus 143/112, that one's also missing :)

[desert python]

Is there a conclusion on it?

Should it be added into GETS?

[wraith kiln]

The conclusion was to Accept the importance of that Design. As a compromise, 112 can be added, as it was a post-GDR thing, if you measure with a sharpened Pencil

[stray nova]

112 should be yeah

we can add the 143 in when we do DDR

with all the additional liveries

[desert python]

wip

[wraith kiln]

already love it :)

[wraith kiln]

not 100% correct, but wouldn't it be an idea to distinguish 112 and 143 by the lights? 2 lights on the bottom for 112, 4 lights for 143?

[stable sphinx]

Is that the only thing that’s different?

[wraith kiln]

main differences are under the hood: 112 was desigend as the express loco, 143 was slower and used mainly for slower services.

[stable sphinx]

Ohhh

[wraith kiln]

Although in later years, they were used in the same way, as 112 was kind of slow (only 160 km/h topspeed)

[ocean roost]

The 112 was designed for InterCity and InterRegio Trains in Eastern Germany

But..., well the 143 got also some InterCity and InterRegio trains

Even the 155 got some IRs

[wraith kiln]

not surprisingly, as most lines in GDR weren't capable of more than 120 km/h.

The Berlin-Dresden line was extended to 160 km/h only in the beginning of the '90s :)

[ocean roost]

yes, the 112 (and 156) was planned, to get in service for the NBS Berlin-Hannover

But then, the wall fallen, and some other Locos were used for that track

[desert python]

ahem... already made 112.0 and 112.1

143 - big lights, silver cab frame, higher roof on cabs (lower on late numbers)

112.0 (aka 114) - big lights, black cab frame, lower roof

112.1 - small lights, black cab frame, lower roof

[wraith kiln]

guess that's enough difference :)

[desert python]

112.1 and 114

[wraith kiln]

i'd love to start coding them right now, but i'm tired as hell. Tomorrow :)

they come out really nice.

[desert python]

I'll upload them now. Will do paintschemes for it later

some of planned

• Weiss Lady and RBH

[ocean roost]

But those are also Class 143

[stable sphinx]

The orange one looks weird

[desert python]

Cause it's Weiss Lady

but modern paint of (ex) Arcellor Mittal

243(212)-001

[desert python]

112 doesn't have interesting paints...

[stable sphinx]

honestly wish you guys had worked to a different scale

there's quite a few german things ima have to make as a result of this

but it does look really good for ez sprites

[violet python]

This Cars was also pushed And pullt by The 143s And 111

[wraith kiln]

@desert python Would you fancy helping me with the lettering on this one?

should look more like this:

[ocean roost]

Just a little reminder, that the E44.5 also existed x)

[wraith kiln]

You could try and modify it from the existing e44. Shouldnt be Hard, as the cab is kind there from other Locos too :)

[desert python]

It had 2 variants too.

[desert python]

It actually should be hard. It have no common parts with regular 44 from outside. Everything from bogies to roof is different.

Not to mention two completely different frames used on early and on series

[desert python]

May try later.

[wraith kiln]

sorry, forgot to share the voc.

[ocean roost]

@wraith kiln i made different liveries out of the Dms, are you coding them as well for that patch? Or for one of the next ones?

[wraith kiln]

since we don't have that many reskins for this update, i plan on adding a few more, yes :)

[ocean roost]

Very good 🙂

Do we have modern Post coaches?

I tried myself drawing some, but they were really trash (i guess i can only draw liveries ^^')

[wraith kiln]

not yet

[wraith kiln]

thank you :)

[desert python]

made only one lettering... sleepy

[wraith kiln]

i'll happily do the rest :)

[desert python]

also, made quick-picc... whoops

copy ck from first word

should go sleep... Goof night!

[wraith kiln]

already done - good night :)

[ocean roost]

Ayo, we were talking about E-Locos recently... i dont know if someone mentioned the E69 once

its smol, it got a ridiculously high period of operating time, and its smol

[desert python]

And its on a different current

They were converted to 15 kV AC in 1950's, but at that time they are mostly irrelevant as loco.

[ocean roost]

nah

In the 50s, they were still used between Murnau and Oberammergau, and even in Heidelberg

they got out of service in the 80s

[desert python]

line they worked on was converted to 15 kV in 1955. That was the reason why E69 001 retired in 1950's too. 40-year loco wasn't good enough to be retrofited with new equipment.

[wraith kiln]

Next Coding update: BR 112, Henschel E 1200 and WRmz Dining coaches

[desert python]

So, 143 will be for DR set then?

[wraith kiln]

Yeah, its a genuine gdr Design if im not mistaken

[desert python]

Ok, good I haven't started on them yet.

[wraith kiln]

Why not Start it? I mean, if we want GETS GoEast or how you wanna call it, well have to Start somewhere somehow

[desert python]

Well, there are base 143 already on a drive

[ocean roost]

Ah

is it possible to add on the coaches the times of usage, like on the locos?

[mortal bobcat]

Yes

[ocean roost]

Would be very useful, especially on Cheated maps x)

[wraith kiln]

r u on jgr? you can check via the replace vehicles menu:

[whole root]

Can you play Multiolayer with GETS? Last time I played with my brother, I wanted to try a session with GETS, but he could only see blue questionmarks instead of the vehicles. I just started a online Multiolayer called "Please join GETS-Test". Would anyone be so kind and join me quick, so you can tell me, oft this is a general issue?

[whole root]

Looks like it works fine. Just wanted to make sure.

[ocean roost]

Just a short question, is it planned, to code a real Wendezugsteuerung

?*

[wraith kiln]

That's nearly impossible right now. For example the SBB Set does reversing with switching sprites. This kinda works (in a hackish way) with normal length sprites, but it won't work with longer sprites as far as i know. Even if it would work, it would be an absolutely insane amount of coding. Unfortunately we'll have to hope this gets implemented in the basegame one day.

[mortal bobcat]

It is possible with longer than 8 but it's only practical when everything is the same length which it isn't

[stray nova]

the only way I see it being implemented into gets is if we have set units

Loco, Coaches and DVT all in one

[wraith kiln]

This would be the only possible way. But that also would mean spamming the buy menu, as we have >100 Locos of which a fair amount is capable of operating DVT's.

[stray nova]

yeah

[stable sphinx]

SBB uses longer sprites

Their carriages are often 9/8 or 10/8

You’re right about the code though

When making my grf i asked dP about reversing being a feature we use

It’s the only time he has told me no i think

Apparently the SBB code is a mess

[ocean roost]

Those are not out for testing yet=

[wraith kiln]

now it is

[ocean roost]

perfect 🙂

[nocturne wyvern]

Dosto

[desert python]

111 TEE

[zenith relic]

alright, gb, what's going to be in the new update?

hard to say that i'm not curious xd

[wraith kiln]

this stuff

[zenith relic]

oh wow, are you guys planning on making BR219 anytime soon?

[wraith kiln]

GDR stuff will be in an add-on somewhere in the future, but not in the main set.

[zenith relic]

alright

[naive flare]

GDR is East Germany isn't it?

[wraith kiln]

Yeah, it stands for German "Democratic" Republic as opposed to the federal Republic

[naive flare]

Yeah

Just sucks that for decades that a chunk of Germany was under moscow control

While it made for some interesting German/Russian mixes of trains and weapons, the people lived under a dictatorship

Heck you even had I think 1 or 2 times where people used a train to break through to West germany from the GDR

[desert python]

🤔

[stable sphinx]

Oooo

It’s like a cross between the BR Class 40 and the 2 DSB MYs that were built by frichs with the shark nose

The sides remind me of the MZ too

[ocean roost]

Is this a henschel?

[desert python]

MaK

But there's a catch, it will go to xUSSRset instead

[stable sphinx]

DDR train?

[desert python]

nope, Soviet

TG300

[stable sphinx]

Ohh

What are the stats for it

[desert python]

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/ТГ300

for short - 2x1500 hp diesels, 112t weight, 160 km/h speed

built in 1961

[desert python]

There was one built by Henschel too, TG400, which later was mass produced for China as NY5.

[stable sphinx]

Not bad for 1961

[desert python]

Both were studied and scrapped soon after in late 60's.

That resulted in creation of similar design - TGP50 (2x2000 hp diesel-hydraulic) based on TEP60. But it was considered inferior to a base loco and scrapped in early 70's as well...

[stable sphinx]

Shame that they were scraped

[desert python]

it also was one of last hydraulic mainline diesels designed in soviets...

[stray nova]

This one I know

[stray nova]

feels silly seeing this while sitting behind an actual 112 rn xd

good job tho looks great

[wraith kiln]

haven't been doing much recently due to some magnificient real-life obligations.

Last thing i did finish is this refrigerated car. Got the DB and Transthermos liveries done. If anyone feels like doing some commercials, i'd be glad :)
Promise: More coded stuff comming till the end of the week :)

[outer saddle]

dangerous car..
this has been sold in many beer liveries as models

[wraith kiln]

i know, most of them are fantasy. But i'd kinda like some colorful liveries

just like we did with the G10

[wraith kiln]

back at coding: 515 and 815 done, another fridge done.

[ocean roost]

(y)

nice*

[wraith kiln]

aaand another 442-livery:

[ocean roost]

Hehe 🙂

I just noticed, there are lacking so much steamlocos

Like the 86 or one loco of the 98s

[wraith kiln]

i know :)

they'll all come one by one, but unfortunately (well... actually very fortunately for me :D) i'm busy af with other projects in my free time. It's literally been the first time in nearly two weeks, that i've been able to touch voxels and/or code. i do have a vague idea of what i'd like to do in the next updates, though that'll take time.

that vague idea does indeed feature some steam engines ;)

[ocean roost]

Tell me more about it 🙂

[wraith kiln]

about the fortunate things? I'd rather do that in a PM

concerning the steam engines it's kinda: 13.10; 17.2; 10; 37.0; 76; 39; 23; 23DB, 54.0; 95; 86, aaand so on

[ocean roost]

But its good, when there are other projects besides videogames 😉 And the planned locos sounds also good 🙂

[ocean roost]

just a little neat idea for a steam engine x)

[wraith kiln]

good idea, although i'd like to focus on Passenger Stuff first :)

[wraith kiln]

the next coding update: One more fridge, 1880's simpler ladle car added.

You think that's alright for a release or is anything vital missing?

@desert python I'd like to take your VT 23 and do it together with a 624 - you fine with that or would you prefer seeing the VT23 in this update?

[desert python]

Stuff can wait

[wraith kiln]

allright, then i've uploaded a new testversion to the drive - appreciate everyone who checks for a few bugs :)

[stiff swan]

Are BR245 or Class 294 or V160 (c210/215) in this grf?

[ocean roost]

nope net yet

[stiff swan]

That sounds like they will be soon.

[wraith kiln]

BR 245 is in the grf as DB and as Metronom, we also got the V160/216 in various liveries as pre-series and as standard. V90 and 210 ain't in, no.

[ocean roost]

Ah holup

we dont have the 223

i confused it tho

i would love to draw some 223 Liveries, when someone is drawing the loco itself ^^

(especially because for the Alex)

[wraith kiln]

i might give that one a try sometime.

[stiff swan]

What about Class 05, TEE or the 103 class?

[wraith kiln]

well, except for 05 it's all in.

[stiff swan]

That's marvellous.

[ocean roost]

We need the dome cars tho

and that special dining car with the "Buckel"

[raw arrow]

What would be the best year to start for steam, Diesel & Electric locomovites?

[stable sphinx]

To have all 3 and them to all have some use? Probably late 50s

[raw arrow]

No, like the best year for each

[stable sphinx]

idk

probably 2023 for diesles and electric and late 40s or 50s for steam

if you want objectively the best types of each vehicle

[raw arrow]

well then what is best for express, passenger, universal and goods for each type of locomotive

and what would be the Longest train for the four difference usage and creating consist. and the best prefrome (hp/ton) for usage

[wraith kiln]

There is no definitive answer to your question. The set is intended to roleplay german trains. Data is derived from reality even if that doesn't make too much sense in gameplay.

I'm afraid no one calculated hp/ton for anything - you'll have to do the math by yourself.

[stable sphinx]

^^

[raw arrow]

well do you know where to find pictures of consist

[wraith kiln]

for modern stuff take a look at bahnbilder.de, express trains at grahnert.net historical stuff at eisenbahnstiftung.de

[wraith kiln]

Just one bug to fix until the next update...

[ocean roost]

Ayo

i got from a friend the legendary Obermayer Books

if you guys need some informations about a specific Loco or coach, just ask it 🙂

i'll get them on wednesday or thursday

[quaint stump]

Hello. ICE 2 cannot accelerate to full speed. Is this intended?

[wraith kiln]

ICE 2 hasnt been touched in a long time, i'll take a look into it.

[desert python]

Can confirm, tops out at 274 km/h

[wraith kiln]

What's it's max speed?

280?

[desert python]

yep

but double ICE2 reaches 280

Zeppelin also tops at 214

[quaint stump]

I am glad to see variable cargo age period!

[desert python]

BR61 with HWZ also cannot reach max speed. 174 empty and 172 full.

[quaint stump]

Zeppelin cannot attach themselves; but can be attached to locomotives, number is unlimited.

[desert python]

Check only works for stuff behind.
I.e. that means you can forbid attaching behind vehicle with one check, but to forbid it being attached you need to do that for every other vehicle + that won't work with other sets anyway.

[wraith kiln]

All three Kind of streamlined- ill try to play around with Air drag to make them faster.

[ocean roost]

Are there x-Wagen already?

I dont think so huh?

[desert python]

You know what to do! 🤣

[ocean roost]

i cant draw coaches ._. only liveries

[wraith kiln]

Insomnia presents: ET 55 (DRG), BR 425/455 DB and BR 60/LBE Nr. 1

[ocean roost]

Oooh yeeeess

ET25 was so damn underrated

[wraith kiln]

next update: BR 442 SWEG added, BR 71.0/T5.1 added.

[ocean roost]

i have two weeks vacation now, so i´ll do something as well 🙂 Tomorrow

[wraith kiln]

WIP

[stray nova]

Hell yeah

[violet python]

Desiro HC Yeah baby

[wraith kiln]

more WIP

[desert python]

You are gonna keep this voxel poking out?

[wraith kiln]

thanks, that one's gone.

[wraith kiln]

first one complete. Hell, this livery sucks.

[desert python]

Try some adds like Marklin 101 then 🤣

Looks good!

Meanwhile stuck with blu stuff at #openttd

[wraith kiln]

i know why the really complicated schemes up to you :D

50 shades of blu lookin rad, too

[desert python]

drawin' at speed of light! (1 sprite/hour)

really burn out... Maybe suggest some voxels?

[wraith kiln]

how about this one?

1 sprite/hour is really insane :D

[outer saddle]

especially this version of it lol

voxel hell i guess

[wraith kiln]

ah, damn i didn't think about this one.

Other suggestion would be:

[ocean roost]

V90!

Just do the loco itself, and i would do the rest x)

[wraith kiln]

Bed time:

[stray nova]

Where BaWü

[wraith kiln]

Late, cause its cooking spätzle mit soß

[stray nova]

güt

[desert python]

Where each one is a different loco? 🤣

Different diesels, bogies and one got streamlined too

[wraith kiln]

well, i'm sorry, but there isn't that much diesels left to do oO

[stray nova]

what about the ludmilla

[wraith kiln]

as a genuine Eastern Design, this one isn't covered by the main set. There will be a GDR-addon in the future, though.

[wraith kiln]

Ze Länd has some Maultaschenexpress for you

[ocean roost]

Where is Go-Away?

Or better known as Amazon-Express

[wraith kiln]

still drunk at Oktoberfest :D

srsly: will come along with ODEG livery, but i've only got two hands and half a working brain :)

[ocean roost]

i know 😄

all good

[stray nova]

Danke knoblauchmann

[desert python]

You need neither of these to make voxels, you know?
🤣

[quaint stump]

I think it is over.

[wraith kiln]

Gaby waking up - this livery is harder than i actually thought.

[stray nova]

YOOOOOOOOO

ODEG next pls

[wraith kiln]

yeah for sure! (but first i gotta finish that bavarian thing)

[stray nova]

YOOOOOOOOO

HELL YEAH

don’t Israel railways also have these

[wraith kiln]

they've bought some 30ish of them i think yh.

6 of the 4-part and 18 6-parts.
Also Egypt will get 94 4-part units

[wraith kiln]

Does it look okay-ish in terms of the white wave-thing?

[bright flame]

It looks extra good

[wraith kiln]

ty

[desert python]

Wavy~~~

[wraith kiln]

WHile i procrastinate the ODEG-livery, is someone interested in doing liveries for Simo333's NE 81?

[stray nova]

Sure

[desert python]

Not me

[stray nova]

wait

does it have loading sprites?

[desert python]

Nope)

I kinda forgot that thing exists

[stray nova]

ok ill get some done

[wraith kiln]

i can do some loading sprites, if you like me to.

[stray nova]

ye please

not my strong suit

bob

[wraith kiln]

nice stuff !

[wraith kiln]

yh, why not paint a giant bicycle on your train?

[stray nova]

SAB

any other ones?

maybe HZL buz idk

also what the fuck

[wraith kiln]

HZL would be nice, i think they've been the first to use this thingy

[stray nova]

someone else will have to do the writing unfortunately

i do not have the skill lmao

[wraith kiln]

this one maybe? Also first series

[stray nova]

ye I could do that

[wraith kiln]

would be lit, since we also have other SWEG-vehicles:)

[stray nova]

we also have newer HZL stuff

so having the older stuff means you can do generations of one railway

I'll do HZL (leave the writing on the side to someone else) and then the SWEG

[wraith kiln]

i'll see if i can write it.

[stray nova]

will send it in here once done

[stray nova]

here use go

[desert python]

SWEG one is newer version, have bigger window in front, different lights and doors.

[stray nova]

yes

[stray nova]

so is this

they are all on the drive now

[wraith kiln]

thank you for your help :)

I'll get some loadingsprited done and Code it on the weekend.

[stray nova]

very nice

[stray nova]

i got bored

[desert python]

I thought it was CflETS...

Not OBBETS

[stray nova]

OETSi

eh

if we do end up doing it I'll have these lying around

[desert python]

Yep

[wraith kiln]

I love it!

[wraith kiln]

only missing loading sprites and code now.

[stray nova]

I can do more

[wraith kiln]

save for ÖTSI or do "GETS-Eurofima-Addon?

[stray nova]

Don’t tempt me

Think the eurofirma addon would be so fucking cool

[wraith kiln]

yh, but it's actually a bs idea.

it should be a more wide addon.

it should rather be a "EU-Addon" or stuff like that.

[stray nova]

European coaching addon pack?

Then you get to do shit like the panorama coaches from Switzerland

ICR from Nl

[wraith kiln]

but why limit to coaches? Wouldn't it be an option to go full nuts and do like a "we do what we want"-grf?

[stray nova]

I mean yeah

[wraith kiln]

ICR, CH, maybe Israel-livery for the Desiro and an obscure french steam shunter D:

[stray nova]

For some countries I would prefer full sets

Like CHETS

Or ÖETSi

[wraith kiln]

ÖETSI would be rad.

[stray nova]

Yeah

They have a lot of stuff that’s standard as well

So you could convert a desiro into pretty much any livery

Or a narrow gauge addon?

That’s lacking in openttd

Swiss narrow gauge trains

RhB. MGB

[wraith kiln]

lots of german steam engines, too. Plus the old ones.

[stray nova]

Yeah

Taurus is already in

Railjet would be amazing

[wraith kiln]

doesn't even need a real new livery, only the sign needs 2 be drawn.

[stray nova]

Yeah

The EZ empire

I mean how close are we to GETS finalisation?

Steam still needs finishing

Flirts, Kisses and some coradias

[wraith kiln]

missing prussian post coaches. i don't need to say anymore, do i? :D

but for real: I don't think it's mandatory to "finish" GETS before starting anything else. That would only mean to never start other stuff.

[stray nova]

Yeah I agree

I can start on some Austrian coaches

The Siemens ones

[wraith kiln]

so "coach-addon"?

[stray nova]

I’m a coachfapper lmao

That’s my thing