GETS German Extra-Zoom Trains DevZone

[ocean roost]

i would also do the old stuff 😄

[stray nova]

Man i started working on GETS doing liveries for Talents

Simply because I wanted more liveries

Some of those are good

[ocean roost]

But i can only draw liveries, i tried some modifcations on coaches (like the F-Zug coach for the 28s) but i would never be able to do some trains from scrap

[wraith kiln]

yh u really got that livery-stuff going with the talents :)

[ocean roost]

scratch*

whatever

[stray nova]

These were the ones I did

Cool

Apart from the regio one

[ocean roost]

There were Vogtlandbahn talents?

[stray nova]

No I just did the livery since it’s close enough to a desiro

[ocean roost]

oooh xD

Buuut, when there is a talent, and a 628, then the 642 isnt far away 🙂

[wraith kiln]

not sure if openTTD has enough VehicleID's for all that 642-liveries :P

[ocean roost]

DB, Vogtlandbahn, ODEG, MRB, Städtebahn Sachsen, Nordwestbahn, Hessicsche Landesbahn

Only 7 x)

[wraith kiln]

thats far less than i thought, tbh

+Vogtlandbahn, Kahlgrund-Verkehrsgesellschaft and BWegt

[ocean roost]

Ah yes, true

okay 11 liveries :p

[desert python]

Does that mean my quota was DB and dispolok? 🤣

[wraith kiln]

u not going for the railadventure?

[desert python]

You don't do them from scrap! You do them from other stuff!
182 was made from vectron in less than hour. Vectron was made from 189. 189 was made from Traxx, and, believe it or not, traxx was based on E32!

[desert python]

That's 183?

[wraith kiln]

ah messed that one up, sry.

they're very similar, though

[ocean roost]

Alex is 183 as well

[desert python]

I guess only roof is visually different?

[wraith kiln]

doors, too

nah, they're same.

bs, ofc they're different... 182 has that one door in the middle, and 183 has two doors.

[desert python]

Nope, 183 should have 4 doors

Two per side

And middle light is above front windows, not below

Lots of small details

[wraith kiln]

very few details - shape stays same.

[desert python]

Nope, 183 is 300mm longer! 🤣

Huh, seems 183 have a same roof as 189

What a convenience!

[stray nova]

This but actually

The only entirely new thing I made was the flirt

That took time

And was a pain in the ass

[desert python]

I do made some stuff from scratch.
Like 420 or said E32...

All ICE as well...

V80, all K.Bay steam locos...

E17, most of wagons I made...

🤔

That's not that hard it seems...

But yeah, E32 was a base for many locs

Most of 1920-1940's, Traxx and all after them...

[stray nova]

Btw have u put the sprites for the 182 on the drive?

[desert python]

They are there.

Reuploaded 182 like 4 times due to small errors in model

That qualifies as similar to me

[stray nova]

Lmao

It’s the same train just more modern systems and chassis

[desert python]

2 years difference...

I bet only high-speed safety and more aerodynamic cabs are diferencies

[stray nova]

The cabins are different

[outer saddle]

Different bogie suspension systems

[stray nova]

I used to play a lot of trainsim

The Siemens equipment might be different

[outer saddle]

similair how trax was made with different bogies for the P160 and F140 versions

[desert python]

that's what I meant as high speed safety.

anti-roll dampers and stuff

[outer saddle]

Electronics it self is probably more or less the same.

[desert python]

anyways...

183

let's see how fast I make one

[outer saddle]

I wonder how much the Renfe, CP and greek eurosprinters differ underneath the body shell

[stray nova]

The danish ones were probably the most unique

Utilised on both pax and cargo services

[outer saddle]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GsRcr0qD5vI even in double with a 189

[desert python]

progress so far

done!

Rammstein on a background definitely helped 🤣

[desert python]

You better say something before I make OBB livery! 🤣

[outer saddle]

boxexpress, lokomotion, kombiverkehr

HKX

[desert python]

that's not a Vectron! 🤔

[desert python]

that's not 183 either!

[outer saddle]

just make 182's then

[ocean roost]

How much time did you needed for that???

[stray nova]

dislike

greatly

[desert python]

40 min?

[stray nova]

better

[stray nova]

i like this

[ocean roost]

Impressive, but you´ve a bit more practice tho ^^'

[outer saddle]

did yo jsut maek boxexpress in 15 min lol

[ocean roost]

Btw i wanna draw this, i had this in H0 as well, when i had H0 trains

[desert python]

Try moving white "VVO" to the left. It shouldn't be under display

[desert python]

12 mins to be exact

slightly less if you don't count moving files around and making render...

[stray nova]

hard to do without making the VVO look like shit

[outer saddle]

Well GL doing this in 12 min:

[outer saddle]

O can mov eone more vox left

[desert python]

nah, sleep time!

[outer saddle]

maybe get rid of bike symbol

[stray nova]

eh?

no the bike is there

[desert python]

don't look that it's on a taurus

[stray nova]

i kinda dislike this more

[desert python]

it will be smoother in render

[stray nova]

hmmm

[desert python]

too dark... Most of details missing

[stray nova]

from affar

sure

[ocean roost]

Im not ready ^^'

done*

[desert python]

use one shade brighter, otherwise you won't have darker shade for other stuff

145 MRCE for reference

[ocean roost]

Is the 145 avaible in the cloud?

[desert python]

proportions are a bit off though... I guess it's how base model is.

[stray nova]

yea

[desert python]

should be

[ocean roost]

got it!

[stray nova]

hence why it took so long

loading

[ocean roost]

better?

[desert python]

nope, cause you removed all details like doors already 🤣

[ocean roost]

Yeeeah.... i´ll fix that tomorrow xD

I hate this fill tool sometimes ^^'

[stray nova]

better doors

[desert python]

easier to make it again, copy-pasting parts like logo

[ocean roost]

I corrected the windows

yeah, i´´ll do it tomorrow ^^

[desert python]

🤔

is there only 2 windows of 1st class?

[stray nova]

yeah

im not doing this style of coach but thought it would be best to include them

[desert python]

that grey part was intended for display... you added below it!

[stray nova]

well shit

i think this stands out more either way

i like it a lot more than doing it in the grey area

[desert python]

may look odd though... We will see

[stray nova]

i fucking hate this

better but still awful

@desert python help and opinions needed

better version

[desert python]

Was sleeping...

Well, same issue as Sven has. Not all shades repainted, used darkest shade as main colour.

[stray nova]

This is the problem

You can’t stick to the pallet and have it look good

This is the best your going to get

[desert python]

You can use other greens though

[outer saddle]

green is way to limited int he pallette. But why not use any colour. stuff is rendered 32bbp anyway?

[stray nova]

the colour is not the main concern anyway

what is is the flixtrain logo

[ocean roost]

Rules for passenger train braking...

[ocean roost]

Oh well...

[wraith kiln]

the NatEx-Bduu should be doable.

[wraith kiln]

checked this - voxel is too short in general. i'll have to redo this.

[wraith kiln]

way better now:

[wraith kiln]

to keep spamming this thread: i just uploaded the hopefully last update. If you have time, i'd be glad if you could check for any bugs i missed. Otherwise, i plan to release this like in the next few days.

[desert python]

I still want to make more G2000. Assymetric: Rail4chem, RBH, Rail Partner.
Symmetric: MRCE, Rail Feeding, Euro Rail Cargo.

Hopefully will do them later today.

[ocean roost]

Im drawing the MRCE and the Alex 183 today

tomorrow, the Alex coaches

i will draw the casual Alex 183 and the pink Alexa one

[ocean roost]

MRCE is done i guess

[ocean roost]

Hmmm after the regioshuttle maybe, its time for the schienenbus?

[desert python]

pantographs are black...

[ocean roost]

Aye, will be changed

[stray nova]

Thanks

[ocean roost]

it isnt done, but how is the first look?

[desert python]

Promising!

[ocean roost]

Those locos are so fcking ugly, but i like them 😄

[ocean roost]

Good to hear 🙂

[desert python]

made a minor fix to G2000-1 and reuploaded all of them

oh... KSW missing details on side... one moment!

4 paintschemes in hour...

not bad!

🤔

[ocean roost]

do it!

Should be fine?

The lamps have to be to the turquoise for one pixel closer tho

[desert python]

turquoise should be 1 pix wider

it's same width as window

meanwhile

[ocean roost]

Done

Alex 183 is done in the cloud

[desert python]

10 G2000 paint schemes uploaded

2 base as well

All updated with minor fixes

found one mistake... reuploaded MRCE

[ocean roost]

Alex n-Coach is done

[desert python]

al6x?

[ocean roost]

dunno how to do the small "e"

wait...

im dumb

[desert python]

lol

[ocean roost]

Weird... now it looks decent ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

[stray nova]

noooooo

old N-Wagen sprites

use these

[ocean roost]

.-.

Well.. i guess it only take about 20 minutes... no that tragic

not*

[ocean roost]

done

The white stripe on the roof is too thin, ill fix it.tomorrow

[desert python]

fixed a bit

uploaded that one on the drive

[wraith kiln]

That stuff is really good!

I'll complete the take of G2000's in the afternoon and do the release, too.

[ocean roost]

Alex n-Wagen is done

[ocean roost]

Next alex coach

Almost done

[ocean roost]

I´ll do 3 more different coaches, and the dining car

[wraith kiln]

Really good job!

[ocean roost]

Do we have new eurofima coaches?

[ocean roost]

ty 🙂

[wraith kiln]

Yh, the mz-coaches.

[ocean roost]

Where are they?

[ocean roost]

pefect!

[ocean roost]

Alex Eurofima coach

[ocean roost]

done

Current status of the alex

[wraith kiln]

Release is done, i may start coding the new stuff shortly :)

[stray nova]

I'm starting to think that by the time were done the entire GETS package is gonna be larger than openttd itself

[wraith kiln]

you're too late, i guess - currently ~215 MB's in size.

[stray nova]

damn

ttd is smaller than i thought

[wraith kiln]

at least we can proclaim we've got the biggest, i guess :D

[stray nova]

affik CZTR with all packages is 2gb ish?

[wraith kiln]

*Biggest single-GRF ;)

[stray nova]

quite a way to go i think

[wraith kiln]

always a matter of definition, if you ask me.

[ocean roost]

Which rolling stock is planned for the next update?

183, 182?

[wraith kiln]

Both, flixtrain, Alex, your F-Zug stuff, what ever comes to mind

[ocean roost]

hmm.... i´ll do Tegernseebahn-Stuff

[wraith kiln]

Generally speaking we don't plan the content to be released. it's more like a "I've got that, that's finished"

[ocean roost]

okay

Were there ever updated umbauwagen?

the windows are quite small

[wraith kiln]

These are the up to date ones.

[ocean roost]

Ah okay, great 😄

[wraith kiln]

I've also updated the GitHub, so there shouldn't be any issues with outdated voxels. Sorry for the mess btw ...

[ocean roost]

Nah its okay

Tegernseebahn coach is done

[wraith kiln]

wrong blue;)

[ocean roost]

np

It is fitting more?

okay, this is close to enzian blue, which is the colour for the original coaches

[wraith kiln]

white strip one up and double that thickness maybe?

[ocean roost]

True

[stray nova]

are the central doors depressed?

[ocean roost]

yes

[stray nova]

oh yeah me blind

[ocean roost]

Is someone able to draw a schienenbus, if someone have time? ^^' I would do it, by myself, if i could do it... but im too bad for this

Tegernsee B4y is done

[wraith kiln]

i'd optimise the railings, they're white i guess?

https://www.drehscheibe-online.de/foren/read.php?31,7718186

this thread has some good pic in it.

there's also been the one with the big white area

[wraith kiln]

and yes, i'll start one soon(tm)

[ocean roost]

Niiiiice

better?

[wraith kiln]

guess it's a good one, now :)

[ocean roost]

Alright, its in the cloud now ^^

[wraith kiln]

yep, looks good

[ocean roost]

hehe, nice

i´ve too much free time i guess

[ocean roost]

Next one

[ocean roost]

Luggage coaches are pretty neat

[desert python]

I know how to triple that! Do smooth turns!🤣

[desert python]

Nice! But shouldn't that vent in the middle be darker?

Luggage also looks good!

[ocean roost]

hmm yes, it should... im on work now, ill fix it in the evening

[ocean roost]

I'll have to fix that door on the right as well

[desert python]

You mean both?

One on the left seems to have issues too

[full otter]

Yeah GETS has by now beaten out Pineapple for biggest single GRF

[ocean roost]

Just wait for DR 😏

[bright flame]

Thats a little too expensive for a DVT...

[desert python]

But that's 255 years life DVT!

[ocean roost]

eternal modus

[nocturne wyvern]

a small price to pay for 89% reliability

[wraith kiln]

Oopsie... Thanks for spotting, I'll fix that tonight:)

[ocean roost]

because i cant create Models, only repainting, i just throw some Vehicels in this chat:

NE81

627 and 628.0

Pt 2/3 /Br 70.0

Br 642

Br 181

Br 39

[desert python]

But you've got this:

[desert python]

and this... (WIP)

[ocean roost]

V300 😮 its beautiful

[ocean roost]

hmm.. but when i always wanna try to seperate things in voxel and copy them, it dont work....

[desert python]

huh? what do you mean?

select part and move while pressing ctrl

[ocean roost]

oh you have to move it.... well... i didnt tried that

But the 181 looks very good 🙂

[wraith kiln]

concerning everything Voxel, this series of videos packed with very pleasant british humour have helped me a lot getting started :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iO0nCOCDw9g&list=PLuO1EdT1BRkdgicGIvQkV4QaBDqtsYmBs

[wraith kiln]

this is really nice, again :)

[wraith kiln]

and this i gorgeous. propably one of my favorite locos :)

boring steam locos in the making:

[desert python]

nah... scrap it!

don't like shape of side

[wraith kiln]

bit too round, yh

[outer saddle]

agreed.

[ocean roost]

95? 😮

[wraith kiln]

missed by 10 ;)

[desert python]

105?

[ocean roost]

85?

oooooh

but the 95 would be awesome as well 🙂

[wraith kiln]

yh

comes a time, comes a 95 ;)

[ocean roost]

cough

My Bavarian local routes are crying for it

[ocean roost]

I had the DR 95 from Trix in my collection... it was such an awesome loco ❤️

[ocean roost]

it looks sooo good 😮

[wraith kiln]

i think your cab is a bit too much rounded, is it?
this looks more edgy

[desert python]

base shape from 151

same body shell

slightly made it more pointy in the middle

[wraith kiln]

the cab reminds me a bit too much of a 103, tb#h

[desert python]

🤔

[wraith kiln]

that's a good picture i think

the cab is more like the 111 than the 103 - sorry, i don't find the right words easily today.

even better for the shape

and a close up of the front

[desert python]

🤔

I'd say 111 we have is a bit too boxy

🤣

also, 103 lacks window washers...

I'll upload 181 as is for now.

Nice hole I have on 111!)))

Shape on all is different

[wraith kiln]

doesn't surprise me - i did the 111 :D

[desert python]

181 is narrower than 111 in front

I suppose that's because body of 151 was used for 181.2.

And 151 is a long boi. Had it fromt slightly shaved to fit into turns

[wraith kiln]

we can always come back to it later.

It's not that we lack electrics currently

[desert python]

Need moar!

Hm... I made 181, 182 and 183 recently... Is there 184?

Or 180?

Lol, how I could forget! I have bought 184 model recently!

[wraith kiln]

184 aka E 410

[desert python]

181.-1

I dunno if there any difference visually between 184, 181.0 and 181.1

[wraith kiln]

184 has only one big row of radiator grills, similar to 181.0

181.1 is the one with the windows on the side.

E 410 is 184, E 310 is 181.0 and 181.1 is just plain beautiful.

thats 181.0

and thats the .1

[desert python]

Oh, i forgot that yellow stripe on the botton of Ocean blue

[desert python]

That's 181.2

181.0 and 181.1 differ in braking systems...

[wraith kiln]

yeah, sorry. the .0 and .1 have been the pre-series locos.
The "standard-series" is the .2 (which also has higher max speed)

[desert python]

184, 181.0 and 181.1 were built in mid 1960's, while 181.2 in mid 1970's...

[wraith kiln]

should definetly improve my skim reading skills...

[desert python]

That leaves my question unanswered...
Is there any visual differences between 184, 181.0.1?

[wraith kiln]

i am not sure about that.

E310 and E410 had the same body and power spectrum. E310 was laking the DC-stuff for belgian and dutch systems.

[desert python]

Well, if no obvious difference - I'd make 184 and call it 181.0 as well...

[wraith kiln]

there is a very minor difference :D

E 410:

E310:

[desert python]

4 panto as 189 had. Ok

[wraith kiln]

while reading from the book it wasn't that clear if they were just different pantos. but clearly "doesn't have" means "Doesn't have". sorry, i'm kinda useless today.

[ocean roost]

the E410 had also panthos for belgium, but it didnt worked out

[ocean roost]

Maybe i should read everything

[desert python]

Maybe I should unpack my E410?

[wraith kiln]

maybe ;)

[wraith kiln]

done for today.

[stray nova]

we still need twindexx

actually dosto needs to be remade tbh

[ocean roost]

IC2 👀

[wraith kiln]

ikr

[stray nova]

is the length ok?

for the old sprite

[wraith kiln]

length is max, yh

[stray nova]

i think im gonna do that then

[nocturne wyvern]

Twinkdexx

[stray nova]

gives me shit to do this week

yeah

if i redo dosto then twindexx is easy

[wraith kiln]

shape of the Dosto is allright. it just lacks details and accuracy in terms of windows and stuff.

[stray nova]

small job

the twindexx front needs redo tho

[wraith kiln]

twindexx has a different front from what is displayed as "2nd gen" DVT

This is the 2nd gen DVT:

this is twindexx:

but before you start on that thing, i'd ask simo333, he did want to start one, if i remember correctly

[stray nova]

@desert python project open or u wanna do it?

i was drunk the other night and made this with zero thought

other people go to party's on a friday night, i play squad and make voxel models

either way ill re-make the dosto

[ocean roost]

Passau 👀

[desert python]

Twindexx? Hm... Shouldn't be hard to repurpose 2nd gen into one.

[stray nova]

nope

imma redo the dosto first

[stray nova]

already looking a lot better

[stray nova]

done affik

if u wanna take a look

[stray nova]

FEX Dosto

[ocean roost]

RMV Dosto oo

[ocean roost]

https://www.drehscheibe-online.de/foren/read.php?017,10408726,10408726#msg-10408726

very interesting thread about silberlinge

[stray nova]

before someone comments on the top windows there is one less than there should be but without moving the doors and redoing the whole model

[stray nova]

DBpza

[stray nova]

DBz

[stray nova]

FEX B & AB

[ocean roost]

now we just need a 147 🙂

ill do the rmv dostos this evening

[ocean roost]

this loco in front of me... does it count as a DR or DB loco 🤔

[mortal bobcat]

It looks like it is owned by

[wraith kiln]

143-> DR
112-> DB (with a lot of goodwill)

[wraith kiln]

This the same as the VVO and the metronom?

[stray nova]

Not yet, I’m gonna do em today tho

[desert python]

🍕

Hm... How that will be determined if exits on low or high platforms?

[stray nova]

Metronom re-done

[stray nova]

Metronom Dbz

[desert python]

More yellow there. It touches blue on roof and covers whole vent

[stray nova]

fleet done

[stray nova]

i did try but the model looks way too lobsided

see if you can make it look good

[desert python]

Sometimes model looks bad but renders are fine

[stray nova]

also on the drive in a bit

[desert python]

I'll try. Have to watch first layer of 3d print

[desert python]

hm... Dosto DVT have one less window on a upper deck

[stray nova]

@desert python

[desert python]

🤣

[stray nova]

they would have to be comically short

[desert python]

🤔

someone used forbbiden colours!)

also, forgot to save vox...

here, one side yours one - mine...

[stray nova]

still looks a bit funky to me

i thought those colours were fine?

they were the ones i used on the original Metronom vox

[desert python]

those a CC... hm...

nope, those are not recoluired in game. Seems Garlic turned off CC

or silently repainted them

What's better? Correct amount of square windows or lower amount of better shape? 🤔

I also made doors narrower

[stray nova]

better shape

i dont like the doors

[desert python]

New narrow doors and shape of yellow (one next to cab) looks better for me. Unsure about windows

[stray nova]

the classes are good

[desert python]

I'd like to hear more opinions before continuing

looks like repainted to non CC

[wraith kiln]

ooops, i might be guilty :D

[wraith kiln]

left version has better windows imho but lacks destination board.

[desert python]

that's not a comparsion... it was above 🤣

[wraith kiln]

pfff

but if you take this one the yellow/white-border could be a bit more rounded off.

[desert python]

done that

[wraith kiln]

that's all i gotta complain i guess. you both did a real nice version of pimp-my-Dosto

[desert python]

Compare left/right sides. Parts changed: Shape of yellow, window amount and size, door size.

there could be any combination... just show us da wey

Ends are whole blue? 🤔

[wraith kiln]

needs a bigger subwoofer in the back. and a playstation maybe?
Doors on the right are better, but not sure if they're a bit too small. but that'll mean: complete change of loading sprites.

[wraith kiln]

both is possible

[desert python]

"Doors on the right are better, but not sure if they're a bit too small" Are 6 voxels narrower to be exact

[wraith kiln]

1vx on every side would make em too big, guess they're fine the way they are.

concerning the Ends: coaches with doors on the boogies have fancy bi-color ends. Coaches with low-floor doors have bogus blue on the ends.

[desert python]

🤔

not a model, but no yellow at end

[wraith kiln]

i can fidn both, the further i look.

maybe they just do what they want?!

[desert python]

maybee

in that case - let's paint them pink!

[wraith kiln]

these are germans. we have rules. we. dont. obey. chaos.

[wraith kiln]

LOL

[desert python]

rev3: fixed blue, slightly brighter white, rounder yellow, few impovements to front and new end colour!

[wraith kiln]

perfect, ship it :D

[desert python]

Windows and door shape are what Wyndbain made

[wraith kiln]

while on the topic of teamwork: is the 182/183 done or will there be another shitton of liveries?

[desert python]

whoops, forgot to change white on front

there will... but not now

not from me at least

[wraith kiln]

allright, i'll let it sit on the drive for a while then.

[desert python]

well, since pink ends are non-canon (and few other fixes):

also moved metronome logo away from destination display, so they don't look like same part.

aaaand forgot to flip... whatever

[desert python]

speaking of 182...

[wraith kiln]

yh?

[desert python]

🤣

But I guess that's Austrian loco now

[wraith kiln]

Idk that tbh

[desert python]

.at is an Austrian domen?

hm... it have .de as well

fine by me

[wraith kiln]

Well... 🙈

[desert python]

We do have italian G2000 after all!

[wraith kiln]

i'll surely code it :)

[desert python]

Hm... 184 but only 2 pantograph on a model...

Does that mean I have wrong model? 🤣

Manual have 4 thought

now I'm totally confused!

[nocturne wyvern]

you got a diffrent version of the 184

[desert python]

seems that pantographs were removed in 1979, after mayhem 184 caused on Belgian DC railroad.

[desert python]

184, 181.0, 181.1... whatever

Uploaded 184, reuploaded fixed 181.2 (new panto's and stripe on Ocean Blue)

184 is in fact rounder than 181

[desert python]

Uploaded 4-pantographs 184

181.0 and 181.1 visually identical to 184 without 4-pantographs. 184 loses it's 4 pantographs in 1979 (as said above).

both never painted in any red liveries

[desert python]

🤔

[desert python]

Enjoy!

hm... Some artifacts shows through

now better

[wraith kiln]

Sorry guys, i just lost a bit track... And as a good office worker, you set up an excel if you loose track.

you've all been so damn busy, idk what's planned, what's finished and what's up next.
Checked the stuff that's been uploaded onto the Drive.

Concerning 182/183 i guess you plan on doing shittons of liveries - 6 free spaces for both classes are there, if neccesary we could do one big random for commercials.

[stray nova]

Is this on the drive?

For the Dosto I’m planing a few more liveries

[wraith kiln]

Before i now start coding all that beautiful stuff, i've got questions... lots of questions. So: Sorry for pinging you all.

@ocean roost For the Talents i need to know if they're 3-part, 4-part, 5-part each. I can do loading sprites.
Tegernsee-Bahn: Do you plan on doing the other one with the white space on the side? More 4Yg-liveries planned?

@stray nova : How's the current status of pimp-my-dosto? Subwoofer installed in the back? More liveries comming?

[stray nova]

Na.sh

VVO

Some more interesting stuff that will be added and yes I will add a subwoofer

Big amp as well

[wraith kiln]

that excel is on the drive now, yh.

[stray nova]

Cool

I might maybe just do one or two “fictional liveries”

Mainly pertaining to IC’s

Maybe S-Bahn Mitteldeutschland

[wraith kiln]

IC-2 is the KISS-Dosto i believe... that's something different. But idk shit about that right now.

[stray nova]

Since the original 2nd gen Dosto was never painted in IC livery

[wraith kiln]

that'd be 3rd gen then.

[stray nova]

This

3rd gen

Same cab as twindexx

[wraith kiln]

so if we get that one, we also get Twindexx.

[stray nova]

Yeah but simo was building that was he not?

Hence why I wanna try this on the 2nd gen

Advert cars as well

[wraith kiln]

i really don't know. I tried to follow that chat over here, but half of my department is on vacation and the other half called in sick.

[stray nova]

I want modern DB Regio with jagermeister plastered on the side

[wraith kiln]

so i tend to be the only basterd that's not seen a doctor or a caipirinha.

[stray nova]

Hahaha

Yeah

I’ll get some more stuff done

Worse comes to worse I’ll give the twindexx and attempt

[wraith kiln]

if got the time, i'll do more coding.

[stray nova]

Take all the time u need

[wraith kiln]

oh, i'll only need half an hour to burn that office down :P

[stray nova]

I’ve got 10 days in Albania coming up in a week so I’ll get the Dosto done before I leave

[wraith kiln]

that sounds damn exciting :)

i'll get a weekend in Berlin end of April.

more optimism is needed. That's the stuff that's been coded for now:

[ocean roost]

IC2 are the Bombardier Dostos AND the KISS Trains. Intern, the Bombardier trains will be treatet as "IC-Dosto" and the KISS as "IC-E"

[ocean roost]

I´ll also do the "Allgäu-Zollern-Bahn" and the other livery of the Tegernseebahn.

ooooh wait

Because of the talent trains, you´ve to wait until weekend i afraid.... i commute between Nuremberg and Frankfurt this week, its a real pain in the ... bum...

[ocean roost]

If you need to configurations of the talents, i should´ve add in all talent folders one file, were the trains are completed.... i would also appreciate, if u could draw the loading files ^^

Allgäu-Zollern-Bahn Livery... its as simple as it look, except for the AB4yg AB4yg and BD4yg will follow

[ocean roost]

Am i blind, or is the lower white stripe of the F-Zugwagen missing?

[ocean roost]

😍 ill start with drawing tomorrow, we strike anyway 🌚

[wraith kiln]

Nothing in here is urgent:) I'll do the loading sprites when I've got the time.

[wraith kiln]

I'd include that if you do the ones with the logo and lettering. Just the brighter green stripe is.. idk, but not very different to the standard. Pleas just give me a note when you've finished the 4yg-stuff :)

[ocean roost]

The B4yg didnt had the logo

[wraith kiln]

Noted, might've overpainted that by accident.

[ocean roost]

only the AB4yg, which i will draw later

[wraith kiln]

good luck on that. Hope this time you'll have the support that's needed and get some good results.

[ocean roost]

I hope it either, but i doubt the DB would move one inch closer towards us....

as well*

[desert python]

It's a bit mess there... Twindexx may be coupled with dosto. That makes possible combinations like: twindexx powered wagon/dosto/dosto/dosto DVT.

To make things worse - powered wagon is shorter than DVT.

[desert python]

I was waiting on 2nd gen to take it as base... Do we have a conclusion on windows and stuff? 🤔

[desert python]

DB employee - on a strike
Also DB employee - draws DB stuff

🤣

[ocean roost]

ill only draw Private EVUs and Bundesbahn Stuff in that timespan 🌚

[desert python]

Oh... Oh!

Can you take reference pictures from both sides?

Found an oversaturated picture of another side

[ocean roost]

Sadly only from this one side

[desert python]

Would like one from yours side like one I've posted above.

If you can't - well, one you've taken will do!

[ocean roost]

interesting n-coaches

another angle

but sadly im not allowed to cross the tracks alone

[ocean roost]

bduu

[stray nova]

Yeah I say take it as is, it’s the best option affik

[ocean roost]

last side view

[stray nova]

VVO Redone

i find it funny that this is a standard consist for dresden

[desert python]

That's much better! Thanks!

[desert python]

Looks ok to me. We do have 4000 hp locos with single wagon for 36 passengers used sometimes...

[stray nova]

i mean

russia

but yeah

NAH.SH

NAH.SH Alternate

unrealted but this is cool asf

[stray nova]

HKX Dosto

Ex DSB

all on the drive now

[nocturne wyvern]

Ive made amazing discovery today

The et25 flirt is smaller than the dutch one
5 cars = 4
And the general size is smaller

Like height and width

[outer saddle]

talgo lpco for db https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FuEXmsXWwAA3fMP?format=jpg&name=medium

[stray nova]

@desert python do you mind doing this for me? I can do the talgo stock but yeah the loco and cabs will be a bit harder since curves

[desert python]

Sure! But may need more photos first. There are no bogies and roof is barely visible.

[wraith kiln]

this means you're done with Pimp my Dosto?

[outer saddle]

eishenbahnkurier of may has photo's of conpleted loco

https://mixmediastore.com/wp-content/uploads/1102305-1000.jpg

[ocean roost]

@stray nova is it okay for you, if i would use ur Bpmbdzf for painting it in the old InterCity-Liveries?

or do you wanna do it, by urself?

[wraith kiln]

That's the IC-DVT?

If so, please don't. The shape doesn't exactly match the new IC-coaches, so there gonna be some changes to the shape itself.

[stray nova]

Yeah that’s a fucked model lmao

It was never done nicely and I couldn’t get it to work correctly as a VOX

[stray nova]

Yes, well no, maybe

[stray nova]

I’ll try and find some for use

[outer saddle]

goodluck. the machines havent left the talgo works.

[desert python]

Renders for some reason missing parts as well...

[stray nova]

Nope but some technical drawings maybe exist

Ah shit

[desert python]

Some even show 3 pantograph for sone reason...

[outer saddle]

probably the spanish skyscrapercity forums is your best bet for foto's they got and empresa talgo thread

[desert python]

I can make a general shape and return to it later...

🤔

[ocean roost]

Allright 🙂

does it look good enough?

Sadly i cant draw the Wording detailed enough

[mortal bobcat]

probably won't rendered with enough detail to matter

[desert python]

Can you show photo of it?

[ocean roost]

i noticed, the green isnt bright enough

[desert python]

Yep. Also letter looks too tall

And 1st class stripe orange?

Coat of arms lacks blue in original

[ocean roost]

there are different coat of arms

looking better?

[desert python]

Try to make all lesser letters 4 pix tall, like "hn" in the end

[ocean roost]

that would be a typical train compostion

[ocean roost]

okay!

[desert python]

Should make paintscheme to that one too

[ocean roost]

Do you wanna do it, or should i draw it, after the Allgäu-Schwaben coaches?

[desert python]

I can do it myself, but of you want some practice, go on!

[ocean roost]

nah its okay i´ve so much more to draw 😄

now better?

[desert python]

To low... That's 3 🤣

Just wait a moment, Ill turn on my PC

[ocean roost]

oh

Maybe you can draw it better ^^'

[desert python]

Downloaded outdated AB4yg from git.

here is on your's. Also, were 2CC used

[ocean roost]

oooh...

Well... looks way better now :x

[ocean roost]

Ty!

[desert python]

Hm... What's length BR 105 is?

[ocean roost]

BR 105 ??

[desert python]

ICE L loco

[ocean roost]

Aaah

i dont know ^^'

[wraith kiln]

i've read smth about dualmode vectrons?

[ocean roost]

Yes

Because the talgo loco is only for electric routes

For the Routes for Oberstdorf and Westerland, they´ve to use the dual mode locos

[wraith kiln]

https://www.railvolution.net/news/a-new-ecx-design-and-name:

The locomotives will be built on the basis of the (proto)type TRAVCA with two driver's cabs. -> Trav-ca has a length of 19,4 meters

[ocean roost]

Allgäu-Zollern-Bahn is done

i just "fixed" @desert python 181 in Traffic Red, there was still the bib instead of the White stripe

[outer saddle]

this is only for the IC to westerland and such which need diesel loco's.

the amsterdam ones will eventually get travca br105

but as a stop gap measure untill travca NS will lease vectrons for amsterdam-berlin service.

[wraith kiln]

Ah, thanks - that's a bit clearer now.

I don't really know my way around today's stuff. The older stuff is in handy books, where you got all the knowledge on one side. That's easier 😛

[desert python]

wip

[ocean roost]

😮

Btw @desert python should i put the loco back in your folder and replace it, with the old TR-loco?

and replace the old loco with it*

i´ll do this livery now

[desert python]

oh, lol... Yeah. But I usually do that stripe another way

[desert python]

Go on, you can use Ocean Blue for easier conversion

Like that on 181

[ocean roost]

Ah okay, i just inverted the colors

welp

[desert python]

huh?

[ocean roost]

Nah, that i missed the detail, did you changed it on yourself now?

I guess my stripe was also one pixel too wide

[stray nova]

this is good

i feel its a tad too short but might just be me

[wraith kiln]

you're faster than the original

[desert python]

Now bogies and roof

[desert python]

Fine for now

[desert python]

Travca transliterates to Травка = Small Grass

[ocean roost]

Looking damn good

[desert python]

In sunset looks better! 🤣

[wraith kiln]

That's some piece of art, man.

[ocean roost]

Nordliner 181 is done

[desert python]

🤔

still not happy with shape

which one?

Hm...

I like this one most

[ocean roost]

Do we have the blue 120 already?

[stray nova]

this is good

[outer saddle]

wow. br105 looks nice.

[stray nova]

is this uploaded?

[desert python]

Yep

That's 105IC2

[stray nova]

cool

[desert python]

Probably should delete first one to avoid confusion.

Oh... Just saw on render... DB logo in front is not good...

Or... That may be discord thing...

[desert python]

Missed that one. Blue 120?

[ocean roost]

im already on it

[stray nova]

i mean its a start?

[ocean roost]

i guess you rather mean "It is Art"

looks veery good, gj

[stray nova]

1st class trailer

[desert python]

I'd use other bogie. Doubt it has disk breaks.

[desert python]

Also, cab doesn't add up as smoothly as yours. Encircled bump in orange. And there is a circular panel line around cab, highlighted with green

[ocean roost]

new livery for the Br 424

[outer saddle]

pretty sure it will have disk brakes. internal on the axle. not on front of the wheel though like a loco.

The intermediate cars do have the disc brakes on the wheels by a lack of a shaft in the talgo system

[wraith kiln]

181.2 coded, Pwgs 44 added

and i started this one:

[ocean roost]

What in the world is that?

[ocean roost]

The traffic red 181 has the wrong bib

[wraith kiln]

Prussian S9/561 Altona. Streamlined Express loco

[ocean roost]

Aaaaah

[wraith kiln]

Lätzchen instead of Bande?

[ocean roost]

Is it a stripe or a lätzchen?

[wraith kiln]

not a stripe

[ocean roost]

If it is a latz, it has to be a white stripe

[wraith kiln]

i'll change that in a minute oO

[ocean roost]

Oh okay

[ocean roost]

Do you also draw it without the Streamline stuff?

[wraith kiln]

regular S9 you mean? might do that after finishing the streamlined one.

[ocean roost]

Allright

Wait a sec

i´ll do something very helpful right now

maybe not, but maybe it help xD

[ocean roost]

Maybe, this is useful, idk, i would just continue doing it

[wraith kiln]

Länderbahn is limited to Kbay/KWSE/KPEV currently :)

[ocean roost]

ik

but i just do it also for Sets in the future, maybe there will be an expansion pack or some sort 🙂

[wraith kiln]

maybe sometime, there's still so many stuff to do for the main set.

[ocean roost]

yes ik

thats why i make a table now

[ocean roost]

Additional Sets for the less Popular Länderbahnen would be quite smart tho

[ocean roost]

so, i´ll continue like this 🙂

[wraith kiln]

I don't think you'll need to put in that effort. Did you see the table on the drive? There's already most of the stuff you did

[ocean roost]

Wait, where?

oh...

well..

xD

[desert python]

Traffic red 181.2 may need a replace 🤣

I see you've already noted that

[ocean roost]

But would it be okay, if i could add 1 or 2 locos, which are maybe missing?

[desert python]

I like that! There are a bunch of odd designs in that era.

[wraith kiln]

Already corrected that, yh.

[wraith kiln]

Of course - go ahead.

[wraith kiln]

If you got something specific in mind, just tell :)

[desert python]

If I remember their names!...

There was a steam loco with electrically driven rods.
Another dual-sided cab tender loco and so on...

[ocean roost]

you mean this one?

[desert python]

No, thats a swiss "kettle"

Something like this

[wraith kiln]

T18, I've even got a blueprint for that.

Looked at it and was like "naah, too complex. Do it when you're on holiday"

[desert python]

Or this one...

Would like to have fully movable rods there!

[wraith kiln]

Yeah... What's that exactly?

[desert python]

KBayStsB DD1?

Not sure, let me check

[wraith kiln]

Yeah, looks like a Bavarian engineer had a few beer too much.

[ocean roost]

if we are speaking from bavaria

Didnt know, they had DMUs

[wraith kiln]

That's a steam one, isn't it?

Anyways there is a lack of MU's in General 🤣

[ocean roost]

Ah wait, its a steam one lol

[desert python]

That one was steam initially, then converted to diesel railcar

[desert python]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bavarian_AA_I

Overengineered

[wraith kiln]

Only by a bit

[ocean roost]

hmm

[ocean roost]

idk... they had some pretty ugly stuff there... xd

[wraith kiln]

That first one is the other Altona class. It didn't go into service like this afaik.

Second is a class 19, got the blueprint for that one. I'd do that based on the 01.10

[ocean roost]

This one looks interesting

[desert python]

BR 19 is a neat one. To bad it didn't make it into series

[ocean roost]

Its a Steam-MU with a Topspeed of 110 km/h

[wraith kiln]

on the other side... is there someone playing with that age-old stuff (except for myself)?

[desert python]

I bet there are complains "where is 1850's stuff?"

[wraith kiln]

only read stuff like "do this, do that" but not THAT compaint - until now

[wraith kiln]

if you feel like it, you could try modifying the VT 137 that's already in?

[ocean roost]

I can at least try x)

[ocean roost]

ofc, its quite fun tho, sadly there are lacking locos, and only playing with 2 or 3 classes, its not really great to play

[desert python]

Difference in locos pre 1910's is minimal...

[wraith kiln]

but they look nice!

[desert python]

They do!

No need to make too much of those though... 20-50 hp power difference is negligible

And most of them cannot reach 60+ km/h speeds with more than a couple of wagons anyway...

[wraith kiln]

*laughs in 10 different 8000hp-electrics

[desert python]

Well. That's different story 🤣

There are 4 left though!
152, 102 and prototypes 127 and 128!

152 and 127 should be easy conversion from 189.

128 may take some time but should not be a problem

Only 102 may take a while to make

[wraith kiln]

mhm, how many of them will be done when i return from grocery shopping? :D

[desert python]

Depends on time it takes you to go to grocery!

[wraith kiln]

May take a few hours

[ocean roost]

well... there are dozens of EMUs in that list... but no IC-Experimental? oO

[desert python]

I'm in a taxi for a few hours...

[desert python]

Were they in commercial use anytime?

[ocean roost]

hmm.... if u look it that way, then no, it had passenger rides, but they werent on regular IC or EC Routes

[gritty condor]

Saw this just right now. Looked nice.

[nocturne wyvern]

Trans ice

[desert python]

You know it's impossible to fit all those colours in 2-3 voxels? 🤣

[nocturne wyvern]

Brown

Combination of these colours is brown

But do you want to be reponsible for the poop ice

[outer saddle]

8x zoom sprites when 🤣

[gritty condor]

If you have 3 voxels you could try red yellow and blue. Could work because the brain does make it complete.

[wraith kiln]

i know i'll regret this, but - any ideas what else could fit on a old, sandy platform in the countryside?

like: pre-1920, no canopys, no overpass, no fancy stuff. just a plain, simple and old station.

[ocean roost]

GEPS x) German-Extrazoom-Plattform-Set

Platform*

[desert python]

I'd make new rails first, maybe do them a bit narrower.

Cause now it looks like a meter gap between train and station

[gritty condor]

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasserkran_(Eisenbahn)

[desert python]

Coal, water and sanding towers are all may be a neat addition.

[ocean roost]

Bahnsteigsperren

[mortal bobcat]

shed or timetable/sign

[gritty condor]

Maybe an old Clock in the style of your laterns?

[wraith kiln]

Shouldn't this go into a separate object? Like, something you'd use in a depot?

Aand, not gonna make the platforms in other shapes. When I started, I've took care to match the other stations.

[stray nova]

These would look good in 1x sprites gawh damn

If u want some modern German platform infra this would be cool

Regional single or double track station

[wraith kiln]

Ah, maybe sometime. Those platforms are more of a on-and-off thing. Nothing serious:)

But after all, some good suggestions. I like the idea of a clock and the timetable. Maybe a shed, too.

But after all, back to trains. Choo Choo > Stations

[stray nova]

Ye

[stray nova]

this better?

bistro

2nd Class

I can't actually see any other variations in coaches apart from the 3 I've done

and the endwagen

wait no

WM

[stray nova]

endwagen

fits on good and proper

[desert python]

Should be!

Looks great!

[stray nova]

on the drive now

[wraith kiln]

Great stuff, really nice looking 👍

[stray nova]

i did the wheels the same i did with the last talgo because i forgot how to modify the bases like you did

[wraith kiln]

no problem, i'll modify it so it fits :)

[wraith kiln]

Simo333, quick question on the E410/Br 184: Did you intend the 2-pant ones to be the 181.0, too?

[desert python]

Yep

184 loses pantographs after 1979. Before that there is a clear difference between 184 and 181.0. After that - none.

[wraith kiln]

maybe let her not loose the pantograph so you got the visual difference? or is this a rather bad idea?

[desert python]

Do as you want.
It should lose capabilities to run on DC as well when pantographs are removed

So I believe it's easier to not remove anything

[wraith kiln]

that's a good point, i didn't think about a future multi-currency support

[stray nova]

if sinas gets his tits in gear then we will have full multi current/multi guage support

[wraith kiln]

hows that?

[stray nova]

he's making a track pack

[wraith kiln]

EZ?

[stray nova]

full wide ballast

maybe

idk

i would use it to shit either way

[wraith kiln]

more wide ballast = more good.

[nocturne wyvern]

Tits in gear, more like fucking gear failure

I dont understand shit of nml

[wraith kiln]

generally speaking or a specific problem?

[ocean roost]

new livery for the 182

[bright flame]

Hi! Is this a bug or my game is very broken?

the wagon has only 160 kmh permited even though the year 1988 had passed

[wraith kiln]

yep, it's a bug: String is wrong, wagon is only permitted to 160km/h

it's a thing i don't understand myself - even though the all-passenger waggons were allowed to go 200, the halfbaggaged were never fitted for high speed.

[wraith kiln]

thanks for reporting - i've refitted it to 200 km/h after 1988. will be in the next version

[ocean roost]

Do we have the BDms in Traffic-Red/White IC-Livery already? Or only in OR

[wraith kiln]

afaik they never existed in IC-color

[ocean roost]

u sure? 🌚

A better pic

[wraith kiln]

i can't be wrong, that's a deep fake :P

[ocean roost]

🌚

[wraith kiln]

you wanna do them or do i do them?

[ocean roost]

Im today in Frankfurt

if u wanna do it, do it ^^

[wraith kiln]

coded some more stuff. still got a huge backlog, though

[bright flame]

damn the commercials are so nice on these wagons

[wraith kiln]

Glad you like them!

[ocean roost]

Which Grfs are u using=?

[stray nova]

thats CZTR

ground

tracks

trees

the road is U&Ratt

[ocean roost]

Ty!

Such a shame, that u cant change the speed of the tracks...

[bright flame]

Yeah, im stuck with 140km/h 😭

these are the newgrf's I think

[ocean roost]

Ty!

https://www.drehscheibe-online.de/foren/read.php?017,6316598,6316861

Hmm....

[bright flame]

Also, I forgot to add FIRS

[ocean roost]

Hmm... when someone draw this train, this will be awesome

[ocean roost]

well...

Dd... in Mint

And i found a pic of a green Dms

mint green*

didnt knew the Bvmz 237 survived the DBAG (looks kinda cursed)

i would like to draw to Bvmz 237 btw

i mean the livery was kinda cool

[outer saddle]

that was one of the eurofima z1 prototypes right?

[ocean roost]

yes

[stable sphinx]

just so i get notifs on this

[bright flame]

I just found this, also ignore the currency

[stray nova]

Lmao

[ocean roost]

i love the currency

[wraith kiln]

Thanks for reporting - it'll be fixed in a minute and in the next update.

Also, this wanna makes me see more of your game somehow.

[bright flame]

Actually, I play with a friend ( @shy current ) maybe we can show it to you.

[shy current]

I am okay with it, but in pretty bad at the game even tho I make more money than @bright flame 🥸

[bright flame]

Nah bruh you change all the trains with ICE 2 when they appear 💀

[shy current]

nah i still have some multiple parts lost around

[bright flame]

4 DB VT, and 4 DMU'S from the 1940 💀

😂

Anyways

So

We could show you the map someday

I really dont know when because @shy current has the map

[shy current]

yea sirr

[bright flame]

Bro lets stop

Like fr

[shy current]

kk

[wraith kiln]

This is kind of interesting. Did you change newGRFS mid-game or smth like that? I've checked the codebase, and it shouldn't appear prior to 2000.... nevermind, i found it :D

[wraith kiln]

worked on the backlog of stuff a bit:

[ocean roost]

Looking promising

[wraith kiln]

Prepare your branchlines: