#GETS German Extra-Zoom Trains DevZone
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nice
long time no post, right?
So, this is what's gonna be new in the next update:
- ET 41 now has a trailer
- More tankers
- More open wagons

If you ever would find the time for some 3rd rail, that would be glamorous! π π π
Love your trains very much
thank you man π somewhere down the line, there will be S-Bahn stuff.
Ooo nice
yeah i guess the next release is coming closer. even though i didn't find the time to do the E94 yet... =/
AHh yes, the german crocodile
this one, yeah
BTW, I wonder if this set will be covering all of Germany, including the East German stuff
DDR?
deutsche demokratische republic? (german democratic republic?)
Yes
Democratic my ass, fucking can't leave without being shot π
I've discussed this with myself before - no GDR-stuff right now. As always I won't say never. But for 2022/2023 it's a no.
143 and 112 for from 1990 era can't miss even in a BRD themed set. Maybe even BR232, those were all used in big numbers in the BRD after collapse of GDR. Other GDR stuff was quickly sidelined though.
You are forgetting the most succesful DR loc, the v100
Of which a large portion is still doing service around europe
It's rather a decision based on "do I want to start this?" Then on anything else. I guarantee you, once I start drawing a Ludmilla and a 143, i will come up with more DR stuff instead of doing flatbeds and container wagons.
I mean, gameplaywise there's a lot of unnecessary stuff in the set already, but I do try to focus on things I find more "important".
Don't get me wrong, this is not a "will never draw them" rather than a "not right now"
some more West-German steam meanwhile π
41 gang
Garratts weren't a thing in Germany afaik π
Make a fake Garratt. Call it the Beieren-Garratt :)
Yeah Garratts where a bit of a rarity in general, especially in europe
It'd seem they only really saw use in Africa and Australia
added BR 189, open wagon and PWG_14 caboose.
Did you add freight wagon already?
How do you mean? There is a whole lot of freight wagons above in the screen shotπ€
No open wagons for 2010+ π
yes, this is since the set is drawn bit by bit.
there is a whole lot of stuff still missing, but that'll come one after one π
looks awesome
New stuff coming:
Farm supplies - fresh, delicious farm supplies!
Talents, Stake wagons and Crocodiles. I'll hopefully have more time to do more stuff in the next weeks than before π
hamsters. nice
i still got some of your coaches lying on my hdd.... urgently need to code them....
booo. modern direct rail livery then.
π€£
or do a 112. since those were aquired new by both DR and DB.
Since I'm still at the "no GDR-stuff" point, I'd prefer the 112. It'd be a nice one between class 111 and 146.
Lamps are the main difference, afaik
well they are techically different. first series 112 evne had same lamps as DR243. Later series got the smaller singular ligths from BRD.
cold and dry 20ft's
Maersk 20ft Dry
unlimited i guess depending on how much coding you want to do
these are gonna be randomly assigned to a train depending on load
i think
i think 12 for dry
some tanktainers would be cool. they are pretty common on trains too.
nice to put on 80ft Sggnss wagons.. π
my thoughts exactly
26m container wagons. size of normal pax cars.
professional opinion does this work because i have redrawn like 5 times
I would just do only maersk
and try some other brands instead of a sealand variaton
CMA, Hapag, Cosco, Evergreen
they also exists without it afaik. Sealand is jsut the old branding.
got the back looking ok
it does kinda work though. doesn't look shit.
I guess once it's a sprite it becomes a blur though
right good thats all i need lmao
Maersk Sealand cold 20ft
shame i cant get ONE
well i can but not properly
the shade of pink is the same as the shade for blankness
Doesnt the pkp grf have one?
not of ONE
and one also has white normal continers
i may do that but i need to find a pink close enough that it doesn't look crap
ehhh
logo looks ok
Hamburg SΓΌd Cold 20ft
Hapag-Lloyd 20ft Dry
right thats 3 of each done
cba to do more rn so i will do more later
actually 4 dry 3 cold
comparing older sprites to very new ones. I hope the lower ones mark an improvement...
(and how they differ in game)
both look good but new ones are better
Ure quite on fire π₯
maersk dry new
Hamburg SΓΌd Dry
Nice
I like what I see
cargostore is not really a common container to see in germany on trains at all
I made that one for me
Idc if itβs not in the set me dad used to work for em
Cool to have there
uff they're really pretty.
I'll only have to draw some container wagons now. and find a way to code them in a way that doesn't blow up the grf-file π
i'm already at ~170MB of size...
lmao yeah the voxels alone are nearly a gig
i mean u could make a part 2
gotta be one of the largest ones out there atm
Dang god's work right their
CZTR Electrics alone has ~160 MB. So I'm not at the max right now π
yeah...
that's very different tho
damn every time i draw stuff realise i need to learn to code
i mean, there is still room for improvement. most coaches don't have stacked loading sprites for the open doors, so that'll save some MB's.
yeah i really should have started doing that for the coaches i drew
oh well
just more work for later lmao
you don't need to, i do that in the coding process. But you might want to spare the time in future for doing a loading sprite for each coach;)
Btw, your BDUU is in now.
oooo very nice
i cant remember what that was but nice anyway lmao
was it the bike coach they use down south?
well i know more about voxel art now so i can rework a bunch of stuff once i get around to it
same here, i just decided to start re-doing the Group 28
Evergreen Dry
12 in total now
Hapag-lloyd dry new
fucked it 3 times but it works now so who cares
13
Standard Brown Dry
Standard Green Dry
China Shipping Dry
Updated to have chinese characters on it
Cosco Dry
Tex Dry
couple minor changes
MOL dry
P&O Nedlloyd
OOCL Dry
Safmarine Dry
CMA CGM Dry
Cosco Reefer
Updated to have the panda
ONE Reefer
Hapag-Lloyd Reefer
Default White Reefer
right thats 26 all done
should be enough
Remade Safmarine because i forgot to save
that makes it 27
they are nice.
APL
and bertschi would be nice. last one is verry common on trains. (not ships)
π€£
gets will end up twice as big as nessecary with all those container skins
They do look really cool
K-line, UASC
thinking of a yellow one since you dont have yellow yet, DHL.
and dhl os also german
Ooooo
Yeah
I mean we have 19 dry atm
Might do DHL and the rest I might put on the 40ft
Cold and Dry actual 20ft's
@outer saddle DHL 20ft Dry
K Line 20ft Dry
Hyundai 20ft Dry
Standard Brown 20ft
Tex 20ft Dry
20ft MSC Dry
holy shit im speeding through these
Standard Green 20ft Dry
Capital 20ft Dry
Hanjin 20ft Dry
Cosco 20ft Dry
UASC 20ft Dry
Hapag-Lloyd 20ft Dry
ONE 20ft Dry
Maersk 20ft Dry
Dry's done mostly unless people have other suggestion
Standard Reefer 20ft
Cosco Reefer 20ft
Triton Reefer 20ft
A very botched Grimaldi Reefer
ACL Reefer 20ft
this has the sticker so thats why it looks weird
ACL 2.0
ACL Dry 20ft
enough for tonight
holy mother of god, i shall rename this into "Container-Mania" π
GECS
Something else than containers - I've redrawn Group 28 coaches and added Karwendel_Express. Baggage and Post cars will come soon (c)
German Extra Container Set
Excellent
Is there a BR 05 in red?
Not yet
that's what we've got so far for the next release, more is coming:
Is there a way to contribute?
Oh hell yeah flatbeds
more is just.... more? So first streamlined loco and baggage cars have been added. Need to get back drawing stake wagons again.
ow rare loco. is form henschelwegmanzug right. now we need the coaches too
Yeah it's that one. I'll do some stakes first, after that the coaches will come.
got a Bavarian C IV Class nearly finished, so i guess there's room for another loco in the next update. Any ideas?
some more diesel would be nice, you're right. Let's see what we can do π
they are a bit obscure though. but so is henschel-wegmann
maybe a siemens ER20 would be more fitting.
well, i like all 3 of them, so... not all of them will be drawn until next friday, but i'll note them down. Especially since like 218 still is the only mainline diesel (except for 245, which is already in)
so a bit more variation for those non-electrified tracks is welcome i guess.
man I'm waiting to get GDR stuff done me wants a ludmilla
Its calling for you
haha ludmilla, br143, holzroller, , energie container, early dostos etc etc... all pretty significant trains for evelution of german railroads even after wende.
Laaps_565 is a dedicated wood carrier-vehicle-thing-bla.
Two questions:
- Shall it only carry wood or should i add Timber as cargo option?
- Is "Twin wood wagon" a decent name? If not -> Any better suggestions?
i would just use the irl name tbh
then in brackets add something like open wood carrier
also u could make some pipes to put on them
Names are currently done like this:
Choose this way since i suspect not every player is familiar with how german freight wagons are named π
yeah that works also
This is what i've got for the next update - only Henschel-Wegmann is missing. Hope i'll get that done before the weekend π
add pipe
what you all got with that pipe?
well pipes can be transported in those wagons too
I work on a railway line with freight traffic.
I see car transporters, bulk goods, tankers and shipping containers. Rarely wood.
I can't understand pipes either.
But if you ever really want to take off, an emergency train or a construction train would be a great project.
well, the laaps 565 is a specific wood carrier. I checked and didn't find any pics with pipe on it.
Bruh whatβs up with pipe
pipes https://flic.kr/p/La7f6A
28 Februari 2014 - Al meer dan 4 jaar geleden. Het vervoer op stamlijn Zwijndrecht heeft vele pieken en dalen gehad, en zelfs een stop in het vervoer. De buizen gingen toen ineens weer rijden, zelfs een periode met 3 treinen per week van steeds rond de 10 wagens. Die projecten zijn alweer voorbij, maar nog steeds bijna wekelijks komt er op woens...
Yes. Sure. It could also be, that some other special goods will be transported. All i want to say is, that pipes are not usual imo.
just depends in which region area etc whats put inside. pipe is quite common and a cargo in some industry grfs so can make interesting variations
the "usual" stake wagons already carry pipe π
well hmm wood and timber then for that articulated wagon
next release is getting closer, as this one is nearly finished.
v200 nice
the current JGR had some really ugly pictures of open wagons carrying pig iron.
Much better is this one:
GETS high quality doesnt really work with sukts
ikr, but it SUKTS is the only one i know of that has wide ballast
GESS π
Why
@wraith kiln is standard zoom an option and what does it look like?
1x sprite scale is
the 601 looks like this
You can always lock into 1x, yeah.
The V200 and the bleu coaches you posted in #developer-updates seem to be miss aligned.
thanks, i'll check that
The loco is the issue. Will be corrected in the next release π
Nice!
nachzug talgo, nice
@shell garnet
Ah interesting
Also the new upcoming talgo (ecx) looks nice
Looks even better
Reminds me of a vectron
Sorry this one
the EEL/NS rental vectrons will haul it all the way to berlin untill the talgo locos will take over.
they alredy tested NS vectron to berlin once with current ic berlin.
yes. NS vectron will do the full route.
untill the talgo loco's come available and then the NS rental vectrons probably go back to the owner.
Shame really
Soon nightjet will also be NS vectron all the way upto vienna.
no. for now NS willl rent 5 vectrons for nightjet use.
Ok makes sense
and run them on amsterdam-frankfurt for the basel bound trains and the full amsterdam-vienna route.
i think the 5th vectron is soon to be delivered.
one is also in vienna currently for maintenance at ELL
it was put as a second dead loco in a night jet few weeks back
I said I would make you guys a rail set huh
never got round to that
still want a railset?
lol
gerst is barley in dutch (and more or less in german)
all gets stuff is on github anyway
thanks
Hold on Iβll send one use
There u go just save the pallet from that
Save that link it has all the latest stuff
i think i shared the pallette in discord once too
here: Here's a Photoshop palette file which you can drag into MagicaVoxel to use
ow shit
.. kopied text instead of link
#add-on-development message
If u do get around to it gimme a shout when u about to do catenary and signals
Wanna mess with some gantries
Images plz
not the images you asked for. But: Images.
so i'm currently re-drawing and re-coding some older stuff in order to save some space.
This is kinda preparation for starting with all the sick containers jinglebain has already drawn.
Since work is kinda busy this may take some time.
In the meantime, you might feel like giving this one a try?
obivously, they might not look that much different in 1x Zoom, but that's entirely not the scope.
First one build
oh that look. As if the child of a vectron and en EMU got into a bar fight.
ita soooo ugly
there are more fotos on the original post
the back is kinda nice.
Nah it looks sick wdym
If I get around to it Iβll draw that based on the CNL one
Looks damn cool
Talgo Gen Car
Seating Coach Door Right
cool
talgo now fully done
loading sprites aint ready yet but i rekon that looks pretty ok
Sexy
i think that looks pretty alright tbh
first livery had intercitynight text on end wagond. https://www.bahnbilder.de/bilder/vorschau/1023/969825/bei-einer-fahrzeugausstellung-im-bahnhof-hamm-wurde-am-12101997-auch-der-inter-city-night-praesentiert.webp
before they changed it to much snaller DB nachtzug logo.
Yup still deciding on how to draw that and not make it look crap
Container Madness begun.
Also new in next version: Turntable wagons and new colors for UIC-X coaches
One question how can I use all the colors I see that they are bound to different years, but for example I never had the ability to build the orange "Silberlinge" or the 103 Lufthansa an the ic coaches
you can choose via refit menu
Default is color choosen by build year. You also have the option to choose via current year. and then you can manually choose the special colours.
I've just released the waypoints.
Have fun with them π
there seems to be some overlap issues
sad
You built it the wrong way round, I guess.
hasnt this to do with bounding box?
Ah, sorry I should've taken a proper look. That'll be fixed in the next release.
Sorry for that rude initial answer. I've fixed it - Many thanks for reporting π
And some new trains, too. The EuroDual has different power values for RAIL and ELRL - again, IH was a great source for learning new NML stuff π
Don't worry about it~ Glad it's fixed!
Variants.

I know this is what you want
yeah but
you'd be able to tell my stuff apart at a glance
and there'd be way less text
dont bully me π€
the text is fine
because there is bound to the be day that xx.xx+1 is going to show up so you would have to change the entire format again
Thought about it too, but if you click on any of the lower variants, they show up at the parent entry. That'll cause confusion.
Looks like this then
Plus if you do just the variation name that will also be the name that shows up for the vehicle itself if you buy it and check the consist
it'll be fun to only have "Build Year Livery" in the news. Reddit will love it.
Oh yeah
WIP
Very very cool
I already hate it's shape
66? EMD one?
Yuh
Good I haven't started with one!
Nah it good
There mainly British anyway
I can just go out to look at them properly
Usually 2-3 around barking
Ok
Gave u the role new GRF dev
ok, thanks
Nice
I started on containers to work on a 146 lmao
I was gonna actually finish a draft I made a few months back
No not a 146
143
Hm, is that ex-DR one?
Ok, note that first one was a bit different. Had windows on a roof for example
do you mean that one?
Thatβs the DR variation
There was a variation made for both and made in both nations
I think
112.0 had same design, while 112.1 had two small headlamps instead of four.
Last one of 112.0
112.1
and yes, 243/143 had max speed of 120 km/h, while newer 112 haad 160 km/h
I think if I do end up doing it it will be the 112.1 just to add differences to the Vox design compared to the 143 when the east set is made
112 was co ordered by DB and DR
and the original LEW henningsdrof factory was owned by AEG by the time they wen tinto production. (they are still a full GDR design basicly)
production 143, had some different parts,s ince in GDR there was no track, wagons or need to go above 120kph. The early proto types ones were able to do 140/160, and the thing was designed to be able to from the start.
Only once 112 was begin ordered there was a need for 140/160
That's the reason I'm convinced with a 112 in the grf. π
And this already looks superb!
Still think it deserves both as 143 got such a major roll in fromer BRD territory as well.
but won't give it priority
#1 priority is variants, re-coding and optimisation of what's already there. Still stuck on coding EMU's and optimizing loading sprites.
Only one or two of asymmetric were ever made?
about 30 i think
Webseite ΓΌber die Fahrzeuge von DWK, Holmag, MaK, SFT, Vossloh und Voith welche in Kiel gefertigt wurden.
more than I thought...
G2000.... lots of variants and liveries. (alltouhg not all of them were allowe din germany)
also the fans on top might be a bit light. with all air moving past they would grey/dirty fast.
they would be black IRL, but voxels are fresh.
Its a shame they never run to NL much π¦
also, default TTD pallete lacks good colours for that paintscheme
Doubt they will run here ever... Still unique design and hell of a shape to get it in voxels...
Am 24.02.2015 brach die 103 235 zu ihrer wahrscheinlich letzten groΓen Fahrt vom DB Museum Koblenz-LΓΌtzel aus nach Frankfurt Griesheim ins groΓe DB Werk auf. Dort sollte die Lok einige Intercity Wagen abholen und zum DB Museum Koblenz LΓΌtzel ΓΌberfΓΌhren. Die Lok schaffte es jedoch nur bis zum Bahnhof Frankfurt Grieheim und musste wegen einem Scha...
Have you done the 103 yet and what does it look like with standard zoom?
And how many meters is an 8/8 vehicle for you guys
bruh just download gets and start up a game
103 variants of 103 π
Iβm not at my PC
~12meter depending on size.
Similar to xussr then
fits the polish set, timberwolfs and xussr
Fits xUSSR bit more than Polish Trains 3, CD and Timberwolfβs
Timberwolfβs is not realistically scaled
Polish is but to a smaller scale same with CD but xUSSR works really well with it
Talking from experience
Need moar!
well.. there aren't more i guess π
i'll not allow to ruin such a piece of engineering art with that traffic red livery.
It's not that bad tbh
Doesnβt DB netz have one?
matter of taste, i find it to be especially ugly on the E03
Or did have one
Maybe not
this is good old classic DB stuff. i like
How about Marklin fantasy?
can i put my head under a pillow and wait till it's gone? π
to be serious, i'd rather fill in missing stuff before doing another livery of a loco that already has tons of.
This is gonna run with the IC talgo βsleeperβ
Some more Marklins
Is there many holes left?
266, 112 are some off the top of my head
Looks nice! I'd made upper part of "C" a bit longer.
2000 (which cab btw?), 250 planned here...
Also, since there are variations, maybe it's time to split 120.0 and 120.1?
Shittons of freight wagons, modern diesels, a lot of steam engines, the Eastern-addon, and so on.
Looks better now that is the only screenshot I can find since Iβm on my phone
Both preferably
Yeah, I'll split them
All 120.0 were designed for 160 km/h except for 120 005. All of them were retired early.
Used for service trains mostly
I think at some point garlic if u feel u can then push pull operation would be nice
Shiiiiiiit
Doubt that will be soon...
well, push pull will be there if the game supports it π
Yep. In way it is supported it will be a nightmare to code...
I bet 1/2 of code there is for supporting that
this.
Yes
the re-write with variants is currently at ~45k lines of NML, and i didn't even finish EMU's. Imagine that with push-pull for nearly 10 different DVT's and how many locos? 30? 40?
sorry, but i can't do that.
Fair enough
You can, you just don't have enough time/motivation!)))
I mean maybe a few years down the line haha
never say never, aye?
Like in xUSSRset... Which is made since 2004 (2007)...
sorry, but i can't do that (in the foreseable future) <<<better?
Yes
Much better!
I still thinking about what we might want to add
With the exception of the already made sets
Tickling with the idea of the ICx
Coaches?
4/6 axle flatbed would be nice too
open wagons/flatbed's in general, but that's my task after re-coding
Freight
Reinhold coaches
I see
'60s rheingold, yeah. should be quite easy to make with MZ's as a base model
Are you still using only one file?
thank's to Fairy and Starraid i managed to split it up.
that's the re-write i'm talking bout
Ok good
I think adding some future stuff might be nice
Trying to think what tho
Other than the ICx
Or ICE-L
Whatever
Depends what your comfortable with adding
Toshiba HDB 800 is planned for 2024
Dualmode Vectrons will come
and some Vossloh hybrid-diesel
looks very futuristic.
Better start with "current" S-Bahn
Only few are there.
Oh yeah ofc
x-coaches
Once I get the flirt done (that Iβve been working on for like a year) I can shove a KISS in
MΓΌnchen as well
Oh wait no thatβs the 420
Mah bad
yh, the lovely blue ones π
no, that's regular S-Bahn stuff.
Wow I didnβt know they had plug doors
Stadtexpress were the mustard yellow GDR-ones
Sometimes I forget there were passenger versions of 132...
Yeah nah I thought the same name was given for the line between DΓΌsseldorf and dortmund
What ever S that is
Ludmilla my beloved
That's what "Ludmila" looks like here...
And last version of original "Ludmila"... Basically regeared 140.
But that's off topic now.
Very
now we need a 143 to push them though
Staying on topic... There was another BR232.
@wraith kiln why are some couloirs in quots, like traffic red and orient red. but ocean blue-beige isnt???
Ran 111βs as well
they are all named from the ral colour table, which has official english names as well.
Traffic Red and Orientred are direct translations i did. so i put them in quots.
this remains the best s bahn
N wagen
hmm its just the offical name of the ral colour anyway. i wont quote it.
but its cool line
luckily i'm re-coding all the stuff, so i'll change that. thank you π
This is cool
I would only quote stuff which cant be translated like "Touristik-zug"
Tourist train
Wouldn't that be OP diesel to add?
nah. its doenst translate well. the thing/livery is just called touristtikzug and cant really be translated
Seems like some random f or d-trein
I would be for keeping all of the original German names Verkehrsrot sounds better than traffic red
Plus with variants you can see what the liveries look like
well then you get Ozeanblau, Verkehrsrot, Orientrot, ChromeoxidgrΓΌn and Kobaltblau or Stahlblau
Ow and MinttΓΌrkis ofc. the best livery of DB.
I think thatβs ok actually
Like I said with variants you can see what the livery looks like before you choose
Unlike the old refit model
I like big trains and I cannot lie.
So... You will like another Marklin fantasy?
Real trains pls
It is real scaled model!..
Oil?
(could be added as easter egg by coupling two real BR53 together)
Coal, it's even seen inside tender
that's a marvellous idea.
condensation tender to condens epart of the steam back to water.
basicly a bunch of big fans and radiator in it.
I see
Some BR52 were fitted with them.
I know fuck all about steam
that loco model he shows idk if that was built in real
It wasn't
no that wasn't build. It was one a study of a super-heavy warloco, but never been built.
romours go construction of the prototype was underway untill berlin airraids started.
Like this, based on reality but never actually built
I See
They were gonna run converted sleeper talgos with just seating cars between MΓΌnchen and ZΓΌrich
Diesel lok on the front
It was just one of the designs after a request for a heavyer loco to asssist the german war effort on eastern front. But the war turned a bit bad fro them too soon
Hmmmm
they wanted to combine high power and low axleweight, that's why Borsig did a Mallett-Design.
Just thinking here, maybe this would be nice to have in the set
For more IC diesels
MAK De1024 or DB 240
Wynd, that's actually in. In exact this livery:)
those are made as freight loco though. IC diesel are more or less V200 followed by Br218 and then nothing till dieseltraxxes
Me dumb today
Not with it
and the abundance of relatively new ludmillas disnt make new nessecary
Plus I donβt have access to openttd
I flagged them as "universal/general use" since they're the only diesel that's capable of going 160. Plus as I recall, they've been hauling IR trains in RL
Ye they ran over to sylt with n-Wagens
yeah they were desigen as more or less multipurpose.
and ended up doing their career mostly at hgk
insert slowpoke here
Perfect! Also because it's late to discussion!
Only 36k lines of code to modularize left. Wo-hooo.
Just remembered that there was a IC Blue coloured talgo pendular...
Not only diesels were involved.
you missed he made that one first π€£ (also was non tilting version afaik)
At least that one wasn't added yet! insert slowpoke here again
all newer talgo's have this suspension. But it can be blocked/disabled to allow the tilt, not all countries allow it by default (NL for example)
also this is CNL not Intercity
idk why they had this colour scheme tbh
or ICN
or AutoZug
there was a reason for this livery (interregio). i forgot though. Its weird because at that era german IC was orientred with narrow pink stripe.
probably has to do with this being the only new night stock ordered in the era of "produkt farben" and not belonging to CNL etc.
With all the planned engine variants, https://github.com/OpenTTD/OpenTTD/pull/10399 might be of interest.
thank you - this might really be useful for our set. Guess it's not true that the Name-Strings do not count into Doxx Range?
The old fixed name string property (Action 4) is its own thing. The D0xx strings are shared by all direct callback results though, including e.g. cargo subtypes or extra buy menu text. A D0xx string can include strings in other ranges via parameters, but NML isnβt sophisticated enough at the moment to allow to take advantage of this.
Thanks for the clarification. So I shouldn't run into any issues as long as I give each variant an individual Name string.
Iβm not sure weβre talking about the same thing. You can always have a unique static name for each engine (variant), nothing changed there. The point of this new callback is the opportunity to dynamically decide on the string to show. This can e.g. be used to have a different name shown depending if the variant is displayed in the top-level slot or as one of the expanded sub-items which could then skip the full name so you donβt have to search for the actual variant name at the far end of the name.
With the NML patch that is found in the PR, you can only have 1024 unique dynamic names in the GRF, but that is a limit of the NML implementation only which someone more clever than me could lift. Coding in NFO, there is no limit.
Hey, there is just a little problem I noticed
The IC79 between 1979-1986 is lacking.
When you pick the "TEE" option, there are first and secondclass coaches randomly mixed together
But they were looking like this, usually 3-4 red first class coaches,. following a dining car, and next to it 6-8 blue second class coaches
Dining cars are also pretty underrated tbh, there are so many variations
I hope i dont spam the group ^^' im pretty motivated
To the topic dining cars: i can share you some, of the ones, wo are pretty interesting
u mean either the miropa panto car or the rheingold dome and kitchen cars?
they aren't made yet
mitropa was gdr.
cant remember who operated the 27m cars with panto
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DSG??
Well... after war, Mitropa catered till 1949, and then the DSG came and catered till the mid 80s i guess
i thought it was mitropa tbh
not yet, eventually there will be an addon set that incudes DDR stuff
this is cool, there was a db regio one too
the pantos were removed on most(all?) cars later
didn't know they had dining cars
send pls
Its not done yet, lel
provably modified interior to a bar service.
About 30 minutes, i guess
Its operated from the SΓΌdostbayernbahn and were mostly used for the Oktoberfest trains
the Wrmz were opersted by DSG, but didnt have dsg markings or anything
well all we have that are modern (ish) diners are the Arkimbz262 in both the IC and BWX livery's
I really hope it, because there is acutally no DDR/GDR Set in OTTD
Yes i know
coradias
more Diesel trains π
the DDR set will only be started when it's finished
understandable!
this is the only "modern-ish" dining car we have
so origianl seating/tables interior was removed for a open space useable for all kinds of things
WRmz135 would be nice. its a good addition with it visual odd panto. and a true dining car.
IΒ΄ll just make more PPs, especially for some livery variations
But its Openoffice tho, so maybe i dont work well
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btw, here is another livery for the ET420. It was used for the Airport Service in Munich, it got its livery from 1991-1999
i mean
we got so much on the list
the reason we haven't gotten a new release in a while is Garlic recoding the whole set
I know, its just for collecting stuff for the future, so it can be used later
i dont expect, that everything get included asap
at least most regional trains are ran by db in Germany and don't all have a different livery
because its also getting used by Abellio, S-Bahn Mitteldeutschland, National Express, SWEG, Cantus, Go-Ahead and DB
The ET426 have also another livery since 2021, when the BOB got 8 units of them. I really like that Blue livery
yes that livery is very cool
panto up or down?
i think in regular service it would have been down
only up when locos were changing
It was not allowed to run panto up
426 should be a rather easy one as we already have 425 in.
For the dining cars: Andy does it like dining car removed running cost of express coaches. Is that something you guys would like as a game mechanic?
Would be a pretty nice feature tho
Ah, I dunno, if its been already discussed, but what about the green stripes on the ICEs? Do you add them sometimes?
Green Stripe is in for ICE 1
"in" meaning: "coded and done for the next release".
how do you guys currently keep track of what youve done etc?
i've got a tracking table in fifteen versions. 14 on my hdd and one on a googledrive.
- myself has a crush on physical notes, so i've got a bunch of paperlists lying around here.
bit hard to share with a multi-national team though
me and wynd can probably read enough german, dont know about the rest
fair enough
coradia lints β οΈ
same time i did realise how few are in the grf.
VT98, VT137, VT24, 610, 605 (ICE TD) 620-623, 626, 627, 632-633, 670, etc... its like endless
just looking at the 950 versions of VT137 π
oh geez.... i also forgot the regio shuttle
holup... 950? for real now? oO
guesstimate π
just cause VT 137 was the general label for all standardized DMU's back then. So everything is a VT 137.
Maybe... if im crazy enough, i can count the different types
Probably time for another Powerpoint
But not now.... π
Wasn't 950 amount of build DMUs, not amount of versions?
That's been a completely made up number;)
Question on the more colorful private freight cars: Randomized into the "parent" variant or is it one of the special ones?
I'll adapt that to all wagons then.
how bout MU's? Think the should be different, as you barely have two operators in one train?
I'd suggest to do it all aroud the set the same way.
There are some MU's that used by multiple companies, like RegioShuttle
my point was you won't have a Abellio coupled to a VIAS one in one single train.
My thought would be to group it into X-part and Y-part consists and then give you more operators in the subgroup.
like, choosing the prettiest livery (or the most common or.... ) as a parent and then doing the liveries beneath.
that could be better option actually
so, if there is DB-livery this goes top level.
sub-group criteria should be? common? Most fancy, pretty, ugly?
alphabetical?
that won't include fights over what the subgroup should be. Poor criteria π
actually a good one. let's take that.
If you wanna fight - let's that be who made that livery! Mine will be top! π€£
I have one question though... Leipzig or Hamburg?
in case you're talking about SVT's...
Koln?
π it is
well, i won't discuss THIS π
but once this is finished, it'll be rather easy to kitbash the other ones.
Well, its the 1428, an upgraded version of the Flirt2... but still
my bad, its a fliirt 3
But the Cantus Flirt 2s are missing
oh geez thats looking nice
Yeah thereβs a lot of flirt liveries missing
Do you mind, if i collect the whole liveries?
Iβve already got a fairly strong list going
The middle cars need to be redone for the flirt anyway
allright good
π
holy, now im pretty hyped
ok, now you may hype
BR BLUE GREY SVT137
very very neat!
Uploaded them all, so... It's up to @wraith kiln now to code them
Are u only draw the Flying hamburger, or also another of those DR 137?
that's not a flying one
it isnt?
Flying one have squished cab
Holy cow, that went fast.
Guess I'll have to do the Talgo first. Otherwise wynd will come lay me to rest in that sleeper :p
i am very angry
lmao
nah its cool
btw what formations u gonna go with?
i can see if i can get the IC livery done first
Na, I want to have that done.
We spoke about some formations, idk which exactly. Got them in the PM's
ill finish the ic rn then
since they are similar - why not?
oooh ET11
IC MΓΌnchen - ZΓΌrich Talgo is done
Wait, MΓΌnchen-ZΓΌrich had a talgo?
no
but the plan was to run a talgo set fully day config and a diesel lok for the un-leccy service
then the 2008 financial crisis hit
no more money for trains
these are the formations me and garlic were on about
the IC is at the bottom
Ah right, they planned to Expand the EC Barcelona-ZΓΌrich to Munich i remembered
Looking supreme. I'll get that done tonight.
So it would be also the ICE-L if i correctly recognize it?
nah
ICE-L is new
very new
part of the new TALGO 6's
DSB are ordering them along with RENFE and DB
these were gonna be modified talgo 5's
this but longer
actually no
exactly that
bit shorter
Yes i know, iΒ΄ll get 2024 training on those, to attend to them on the route Hamburg-Oberstdorf
i would guess that renfe would order them as well
considering they have ordered every talgo set up to now
Allright ^^
it was a hell to make it... so few info, so many differences in wagons!
Especially when same wagons attached in reversing order
at least the car names are given for the DB one
There are two different types of "strizh" that uses same names for absolutely different wagons...
Well done! and so quick...
i mean yeah the reverable coaches are a pain
xussr must just be a main to make lmao
also considering its been on the go since 2006
Counted - 11 types of wagons in Strizh...
Okay, then nvm xD
finished
very cool
srsly amazing one. love the look of it.
Looks great! I guess that bright side is caused by GoRender?
yes, you got the same white on all the edges. idk why it's just bigger on that one.
Will require some realignments in this one...
1/2 of size longer than 423. 2 heads ads up to full 1 size... which should go somewhere in the middle.
tired of 420's? Take a 430 instead! Looks very promising - as always π
I dunno if there is any difference in middle wagons. Head ones have new safety features thus cabs are 1 meter longer.
So may as well reuse 423 for 432 (422 middle wagons)?
There are some differences in the roof, yeah.
430 got that kind of a railing
Which 422 doesn't have.
just a quick question on the n-coaches: Does someone know of any other (domestic) liveries except Karlsruher Zug?
this?
these are UIC-X coaches.
oh
Same question for the Bi-Level coaches. We have mint and traffic red. I know of Nah.SH-livery and Metronom. Anything else?
Maybe some in Mint-blau (Interregio)?
I haven't loked into 430 yet. is there any differences between 423 and 422 except for cab?
damn, sorry.... no differences i am aware off.
That's fine, will do 430 some time
I believe saw an orange s-bahn with commercial add on sides... maybe that was a model.
Oh good one. Not sure if the CityBahn Coaches had commercials, but the silver ones did have banners sometime. Since I'll re-do those sometime, that'll definetly get added.
just found Bwegt and GfF liveries. that'll make 10 different liveries for that coach + commercial banners.
@wraith kiln rn traveling, when im back from aachen i can help
Im not sure if i understand you correctly, but i know also the ODEG
Yellow-mint?
Isn't that a Stadler KISS?
Im not sure. I thougt i read something about Bombardier
Stadler kiss seems to be correct
Im not an expert with this things
after a quick look it seems like ODEG does only have MU's
What is a MU? Modular Unit?
Multiple Unit