Rico ritten

[floral cradle]

Hollanders

Tbh this is the most frisse hoofdstad I've been in so far

[ember wharf]

Rico London

[floral cradle]

Waarom is hier 30 kanker graden

This station is Packer

16:40-16:52 Hammersmith & City: King's Cross St. Pancras - Royal Oak

[twilit garnet]

Should have done Thameslink

[floral cradle]

Google maps told me to take this

[twilit garnet]

Farringdon next stop southbound on Thameslink, change for Lizzy

[floral cradle]

Changing is kinda annoying

Also

The pay as you go system caps right

With contactless

[hushed urchin]

Yes

[floral cradle]

Nice

It's cool how road crossings need a tutorial which way to look

I'm not gonna get this I think

[hushed urchin]

Which way are you going

[floral cradle]

To the hostel

Check in is busy

[ember wharf]

Yes

As long as you use the same card

[hushed urchin]

I can send you the caps in a minute

Southeastern HS and cable car aren’t included into cap

[floral cradle]

The reception guy talks ultra fast

[hushed urchin]

talk super slowly to him in response

or even faster fast

[floral cradle]

What's the third column

[hushed urchin]

weekly

[floral cradle]

Ok

This is alright

[hushed urchin]

so over a week (mon-sun) you cannot pay more tha £40.70 for zone 1-2 for example

[floral cradle]

What should I do tonight

[hushed urchin]

how long are you here for again

[floral cradle]

2 nights

But on Tuesday I leave early

[hushed urchin]

what do you want to see

[floral cradle]

Trains and cool areas

Maybe I'll just wander around a bit

[hushed urchin]

yeah

[ember wharf]

Beer

[floral cradle]

Maybe

Idk though

The weather is very nice

[ember wharf]

Go explore the city

[verbal bay]

take random tube trains till 01:00

people do this with s bahnen

[floral cradle]

Oh no Dutch embassy

[hushed urchin]

run

they will capture you

[pseudo pasture]

Nederlanders

[floral cradle]

This city is kinda bad car brained

Just like massive roads everywhere

[vocal kindle]

This is good

[floral cradle]

I'm gonna grab dinner and then take random trains

[pseudo pasture]

Spoons

[floral cradle]

Idk I'm by myself

So might be weird

[pseudo pasture]

In a spoons, nah

Also you need the app

This might not be convenient for yoy

[floral cradle]

Maybe tomorrow

The hostel had free dinner but it was kinda inconvenient to go there now again

I got 5 guys

It's even more expensive here

But I already anticipated this

[obsidian perch]

nice

[floral cradle]

It is kinda turbo bad

[obsidian perch]

what area are you

[floral cradle]

Kensington now

I think this is a very posh area

This is by far the most frisse hoofdstad I've visited so far

Closest is frisheid would probably be Copenhagen

[frank python]

Wetherspoons is full of lonely, angry old men who eat and drink on their own...

You'll be fine

[floral cradle]

Sounds like a good place for me

[obsidian perch]

kensington is very posh yes

thames from westminster bridge to tower bridge is a nice walk i think

[floral cradle]

That's all quite far

Tomorrow morning I'll do touristy things

[hushed urchin]

you are in the worse part

[obsidian perch]

pretty much fully pedestrianised

[hushed urchin]

can confirm

[obsidian perch]

all of london is like this ngl

cars everywhere

[hushed urchin]

going east it gets worse quite quickly

kensington is where it starts getting bad for car

and you dont want to be going more north than zone 1 because there is bad for car

[floral cradle]

I think Dutch cities might be the exception here

[hushed urchin]

bad for car meaning big car

[floral cradle]

Berlin is also just fucked

I don't really know what's going on in Paris

[hushed urchin]

south of the river you can go quite far before you hit any busy big roads

but you have lots of busy small roads

[floral cradle]

Can I see trains there

[hushed urchin]

you can see them crossing the river

[obsidian perch]

theres nice train bridges yes

on the thames

[hushed urchin]

you will see southeastern into charing X, thameslink into blackfriars + blackfriars station which is kinda cool and also cannon st

if you go vauxhall you can see cool view of 8 track mainline snaking through buildings

very cool

and its on wloo approach so quite busy

[floral cradle]

Let's see how many random trains I can do

[hushed urchin]

all tube is good apart from picadilly line west of acton town and bkloo/overground on watford DC

oh and south london line closed

[floral cradle]

Ok first I'll go Richmond

Then train to Waterloo

[hushed urchin]

are you doing district down to richmond sorry

[floral cradle]

Richmond

Actually I could change to overground at Clapham junction

Sounds cool

[hushed urchin]

yes

but south london line isnt running

[floral cradle]

Oh

[hushed urchin]

so youd have to go up towards shepherds bush

[floral cradle]

Then I will not do that

[hushed urchin]

its running tomorrow

but not today

oh actually

you could still do part of it

nope engineering works ok

[floral cradle]

Can I go to willesdon

[hushed urchin]

yes

watford DC line north of there is not running

but you can take overground down to euston

or bkloo south

or head towards stratford / richmond

[floral cradle]

I really have no idea what I'll do

Too many options

Plus messy network

[hushed urchin]

ok

come to clapham

continue to waterloo

jubilee to london bridge

thameslink to farringdon

you could do a funny then

farringdon - moorgate (liverpool st) on crossrail

onto northern city line

[floral cradle]

18:47-19:16 District South Kensington - Richmond

I'll just see

I don't want to be back too late

[hushed urchin]

if you will come through clapham tell me what train your on

/ what time it departed station

[floral cradle]

It's pretty crowded

[obsidian perch]

its probably still kinda spits in londen

[hushed urchin]

what is spits

its a sunday so its less rush hour more tourism

[pseudo pasture]

Rush hour

[hushed urchin]

yeah

[floral cradle]

Ok I'm really just gonna freestyle

Pay as you go work on all the national rail things as well right

With the cap

[hushed urchin]

ues

[obsidian perch]

london cool

[hushed urchin]

this

[floral cradle]

It's pretty cool yes

[pseudo pasture]

You can use interrail for this

[floral cradle]

I've decided I'll probably come back here at a later point

[floral cradle]

I know but I'll reach the cap using the tube anyways

And I don't want to be messing around at gates

This doesn't really seem like a real place yet

[vocal kindle]

New places usually don't

[floral cradle]

I don't like how the tube trains have opposing seats

I know this is good for reasons but I just don't enjoy awkward eye contact

This is more like a stoptrein than metro I think

[hushed urchin]

that is the way it was built

by a mainline railway the richmond branch

LSWR

[floral cradle]

We have a red signal

[hushed urchin]

ooo

whats next station

[floral cradle]

Gunnersbury

[hushed urchin]

you are probably waiting behind overground train

[floral cradle]

We go again

[hushed urchin]

now stations become further apart

[floral cradle]

Stoptreinen West London

[hushed urchin]

you will have like 15 mins till next wloo train

[hushed urchin]

how empty is rest of train

[floral cradle]

It's like

5% of seats taken

Most people got out before we crossed the Thames

[hushed urchin]

makes sense

yeah they would have

[floral cradle]

I'm vibing really hard

[hushed urchin]

dont vibe too hard you might get hurt

[floral cradle]

Okay

[hushed urchin]

But once you get on mainline rail you can vibe hard safely

[pseudo pasture]

Rico subsurface

[floral cradle]

Really small adult here

[hushed urchin]

How tall

Make estimate

[floral cradle]

150cm

[hushed urchin]

Small

[floral cradle]

But they don't have dwarfism build

[hushed urchin]

Are they child

[floral cradle]

@hushed urchin do I need to go through the gates when transferring

[hushed urchin]

you shouldnt have to

[floral cradle]

Or like do something with my card

Ok

[hushed urchin]

you will see sinage

[floral cradle]

This is kind of confusing

[hushed urchin]

is there a purple reader

[floral cradle]

There were no gates

I think there was

[hushed urchin]

you can tap that when changing trainsd

[floral cradle]

Should I

[hushed urchin]

you are changing to national rail?

[floral cradle]

Yes

[hushed urchin]

if you are changing then tap it

[floral cradle]

From the tube

Okay

[pseudo pasture]

Complexe systemen

[floral cradle]

Wait they have a tutorial

[hushed urchin]

you dont have to tap them but especially when doing something like this its better to not get overcharged

there

[floral cradle]

Yes I need to do this

[pseudo pasture]

Rico ticketing system tutorial

[hushed urchin]

rico will you take 1927 to waterloo

[floral cradle]

Yes

[hushed urchin]

ok

[floral cradle]

19:27-19:48 SWR Richmond - London Waterloo

[hushed urchin]

i will see this at clapham

[floral cradle]

Ok my plan doesn't work out

[hushed urchin]

what are you trying to do

[floral cradle]

I thought maybe go to upminster

Then take dumb Romford shuttle

The crossrail back

But the shuttle stops at like 8

[pseudo pasture]

Ive done that

[floral cradle]

I can take c2c back instead

[pseudo pasture]

Wait really, it stops at 8?

[hushed urchin]

its a sunday

suprised its running at all

[floral cradle]

After that I'll head back

Because I'll not have fun when it's dark out

[hushed urchin]

how are you going upminster

sunset is late

[floral cradle]

The green line

[hushed urchin]

district line again

[floral cradle]

Then c2c back

Yes

[hushed urchin]

you could do a bit of the goblin

[floral cradle]

My train

What's that

[hushed urchin]

gospel oak - barking line

youd go crossrail to forest gate, out of station interchange to wanstead park

overground to barking

then you can go upinster or whatever

its not a weird shuttle but its just funny overground lien

[floral cradle]

This is a lot of effort

[hushed urchin]

you could do it in reversee

c2c from fenchurch to barking

[floral cradle]

I don't want to change too much

Or be back super late

[hushed urchin]

goblin

elizabeth line back

[hushed urchin]

understabdable

ok i will not see rico train today

[floral cradle]

These trains are very uncomfortable

[hushed urchin]

this can be done tomrorow

they have bad seats

some of the other trains that run on that line have better seats

[floral cradle]

I'm getting sleepy

Only had 6 hours of sleep

[hushed urchin]

this is plenty

if you get on tube you can wake up

[ember wharf]

This is good

The true interrail experience

[verbal bay]

i only had 4. dont complain

[hushed urchin]

you are like 60

[floral cradle]

Lots of tall buildings here

[hushed urchin]

8 track mainline too

[floral cradle]

Plus it's actually 20:42

[hushed urchin]

what

if you are too eepy you can cut with jubilee line - bond st then lizzy - paddington

but sleep is a societal construct and shouldnt hinder you

[floral cradle]

Wait no Waterloo and city line

[hushed urchin]

no its weekend

if you need to get to bank/monument then go jubilee - london bridge, northern - bank/monument

[floral cradle]

I'll take the gray line to Stratford

[hushed urchin]

all the way

hardcore

[floral cradle]

Then purple line paddington

Why hardcore

[hushed urchin]

no it makes sense

more scenic route would be take grey line to canada water

no this is bad

[floral cradle]

I'll dlr tomorrow

[hushed urchin]

orange line has good views but going via highbury would take too long

[floral cradle]

Yes my plan is the best

C2c isn't good because the shuttle isn't running

[hushed urchin]

actually its not too long

20:05 canonbury

then 20:28 stratford

but jubilee is quicker

but you dont get epicio view

[floral cradle]

Where the fuck is the jubilee

[hushed urchin]

ah you are in ex eurostar terminal

go down the ramp and turn right, head towards platforms 1-4

then jubilee line tube entrance will be on the left

there should be sinage no

[floral cradle]

This is a very deep staircase

[hushed urchin]

is this the tube entrance?

[floral cradle]

Yes

[hushed urchin]

you should see a big elephant

somewhere there

[floral cradle]

20:03-20:23 Jubilee Waterloo - Stratford

Tiny train

It's 40 degrees here

[hushed urchin]

Your on the extension that’s like the second coolest part of the tube

[floral cradle]

Oh it's underground all the way

Lamr

[hushed urchin]

No

You should surface for West Ham

But it’s in a cutting

[twilit garnet]

Do they not let you order at the bar in London?

[ember wharf]

you’re the last person that even needs it anyway

[floral cradle]

I'm not vibing on this

There's human fecal matter here

How did this happen

It smells so bad

I understand why London is a shithole

@frank python

[obsidian perch]

letterlijk

[floral cradle]

I might also be like smelly barf

But I need to get out of here

[obsidian perch]

uitgang

[frank python]

The app is just far easier...

[floral cradle]

Ok this part of town is more onfris

[obsidian perch]

rico londen

[floral cradle]

I still think it's weird to have a country where they just speak English

And not something weird like French

[frank python]

Almost as if that country is England innit...

[pseudo pasture]

East london

[frank python]

Just London in general Sinas

[floral cradle]

Man with nice dog

[obsidian perch]

youre kinda right

this is why we should have had like esperanto as a lingua franca

[floral cradle]

I think I kinda messed the omchecken

I'll see later

[frank python]

No, English better

[floral cradle]

16 year old gangster boys here

[frank python]

Welcome to London

Where are you staying Rico?

[floral cradle]

Near Paddington

[frank python]

Crossrail back now then?

[floral cradle]

Yep

And then I'll just chill out I think

Man here eating a sandwich

20:31-20:50 Elizabeth Stratford - Paddington

[twilit garnet]

My left ballsack it is, I'd rather queue at the bar and get my drink straight away

Plus there's less data recording too

[floral cradle]

One of the gangster boys is walking up and down next to me

He's sus

I'm waking away

[twilit garnet]

The only thing on record is that I spent X amount at spoons on my bank statement, I'm not gonna have every single thing I order logged for marketing purposes and have that data sold on to fucking Mark Zuckerberg

Hell I'd get rid of my Tesco clubcard if there wasn't an Express round the corner from my house

[hushed urchin]

pussy

[ember wharf]

Rico pickpocketed

[frank python]

I've literally had my drink turn up at almost the second I've paid, when the queue at the bar has been 5/6 deep...

[hushed urchin]

he is strange person pilot

[frank python]

I'll stick to the app...

[hushed urchin]

this is something you dont question

[ember wharf]

Spoons app is good

[frank python]

Oh no! Mark Zuckerberg knows you've got a Kopparberg Cider with your Bangers and Mash at Wetherspoons! How terrible! 😂

Other meals are available, but Will doesn't strike me as someone cultured enough to go for a curry 😂

[twilit garnet]

Like I said, Luddite

[frank python]

Oh no, Zuckerberg has all this info on me 😂

[twilit garnet]

But I shouldn't be bothering really, I don't even bother reading whatever you're replying with because I really, really couldn't give a fuck anymore

@floral cradle any more suspicious types?

[frank python]

Awwww, he's triggered

[pseudo pasture]

Fucking hell, platters and 2 pints

He is going to use this against you in the next cyber war

[frank python]

Oh no! He's gonna go "did you know Pilot once ate a burger in Helensburgh" and I'm gonna be so embarrassed

[pseudo pasture]

You will be canonmeat

In the next veggie world, you will be lynched and eaten for the juicy meats you had back then

Alright im done poking fun here

[frank python]

Not the veggie world! Oh no! 😭

I'm sorry oh Veggie overlords

Please forgive me for eating a juicy wetherspoons burger

[pseudo pasture]

Juicy ahhaha

[frank python]

Okay...

[pseudo pasture]

Mf microwaved ass meal

[frank python]

Bit far

Oi, Chef Mike is great

Wait until he sees all my hotel bookings too!

[reef sun]

pilot Croydon

[vocal kindle]

are you east croydon

[frank python]

Wait until he finds out where I've been too... oh almighty Zuck, please don't use this against me 😂

[frank python]

Yeah, that hotel is within 5 mins walk of East Croydon Station.

[vocal kindle]

good

very good

[frank python]

Zuck will just love all my map data and how many trains I take

[floral cradle]

Extremely cool how there's like zero 4g on the Elizabeth line

[frank python]

You're down there for like... 10 mins, do you really need 4G?

[hushed urchin]

He is needy Dutchman remember

[floral cradle]

It's like 90% British people here

[frank python]

In Britain?! Who'd have thought it!

[floral cradle]

Also London tap water is slightly better than Brussels tap water but not much better

It's not tasty water

[frank python]

Yeah, we don't drink London tap water

[pseudo pasture]

I havent tasted any nice british tap water yet

Its all baf

Bad

[frank python]

Did you try Manc water?

[pseudo pasture]

I did

[frank python]

It's alright

[pseudo pasture]

Mah

[frank python]

Sinas has bad taste confirmed 😉

[pseudo pasture]

The stuff at home, or in romanian mountains is the real shit

Atleast its better than france

France do be having the worst

[hushed urchin]

the waters usually ok

are you in an older building

[pseudo pasture]

Leaded piping?

[frank python]

Nah, London water is amongst the worst water in the UK Dum

[hushed urchin]

no i know

but theres degrees of bad

[frank python]

I'd say "slightly better than Brussels" is the correct level of bad

[hushed urchin]

in newer places its usually slightly better

but in older buildings you dont want to drink from the tap

[frank python]

I'm not dead yet...

[pseudo pasture]

Beglium also has terrible tapwater

[hushed urchin]

when was the last time you checked

[pseudo pasture]

Limburg tapwater > rest of the netherlands tapwatee

[hushed urchin]

tapwatee

[pseudo pasture]

Limburg straight from the quality source

[hushed urchin]

urinal

[pseudo pasture]

The rest be sucking on that river water

With chemicals from germany

[hushed urchin]

flavouring

[frank python]

Checked my pulse around 10 mins ago

[floral cradle]

it has the cool quality of making you more thirsty after drinking

[hushed urchin]

does your hostel not have a filter

[floral cradle]

i dont know

[hushed urchin]

no like

one of the ones you fill from the tap

then pour your water from

[floral cradle]

dint think so

anyways

zzz

tired af

[hushed urchin]

gn rico

[floral cradle]

plus is 0006

[hushed urchin]

wrong

2307]

[ember wharf]

the fact you even have these lmao

[hushed urchin]

some buildings have literal shit in their water systems

[ember wharf]

UK irl

[hushed urchin]

you are coping as again you cannot afford studio croydon council flat

viellicht skin poses no resistance to stabby stab

[ember wharf]

but this is little the opposite of appealing to me

[hushed urchin]

you are incorrect

[fading parrot]

🔪

[floral cradle]

8:01-8:40 Circle Royal Oak - Westminster

I hate how Google maps just stopped working

It keeps telling me to use scooters

I don't want to do this

[frank python]

Why are you travelling from Royal Oak to Westminster like this?

Change at Baker Street for Jubilee and its much quicker...

Train 205 (the one you're on), arrives Baker Street at 0810.
Assuming you're slow and didn't make the Jubilee until 0820, that arrives in Westminster at 0827...

(Obviously all moot as you'd long passed Baker Street by this point, but still, Rico bad Chewb user innit)

[floral cradle]

Because this way I could stay seated

And Google maps has a breakdown

It told be to use taxis and scooters

[frank python]

Is standing for 7 mins to save 15 mins really that bad? 😂

And tbf, you'd have likely made the train two in front and saved 20 mins.

[frank python]

Don't use Google Maps for transport in London... use a Pilot 😂

[floral cradle]

I'm on a bus

[ember wharf]

Good job

[obsidian perch]

have fun

[fading parrot]

london bridge

[floral cradle]

This is very silly

But I like this

This is very Amsterdam Bijlmer

12:28-13:16 Southern London Bridge - Clapham Junction

Stoptreinen Zuid Londen

[pseudo pasture]

Rico will pass below here tomorrow

[floral cradle]

This is a good stoptrein

I'm kinda surprised how hilly this is

[hushed urchin]

aaa I wake up 2 mins after Rico clap jam

[obsidian perch]

nice

[hushed urchin]

Rico if you are still at clapham the south London line is running again

It’s the orange line that doesn’t go to willesden

[hybrid iron]

Rico clapping his ham

[frank python]

Wut?

[hushed urchin]

The south london line

The one that goes to

[frank python]

Oh, I see what you're saying now...

[hushed urchin]

Yeah

I’m trying to not confuse rico

[frank python]

You worded it hella poorly

[hushed urchin]

Fair enough

[floral cradle]

13:50-14:16 Overground Clapham Junction - Willesden Junction

[frank python]

Rico going the better way @hushed urchin

Fuck South London innit

[hushed urchin]

He wanted to do it yesterday

Rico how long did you spend in clapham

Watford DC and bakerloo line still isn’t running north of willsden

[floral cradle]

14:32-14:53 Overground Willesden Junction - Clapham Junction

@frank python I saw a class 66

RARE???

[frank python]

Not really

Especially around Willesden

[floral cradle]

Amanet told me to ask this

[frank python]

66118?

[hushed urchin]

You are coming back to clapham

I have 16 minutes

This is manageable

Rico train

[floral cradle]

15:15-15:45 Overground Clapham Junction - Shadwell

[hushed urchin]

Shad well for DLR?

[frank python]

Can't wait for Rico to get lost doing this change.

I should set up a Pilot travels thread at some point...

[hushed urchin]

This is needed

For DLR canary wharf would be better

Change white chapel for lizzy or Canada water for jubilee

Victoria line rammed

Now crosseail

[floral cradle]

Dum

[hushed urchin]

Rico

[floral cradle]

15:56-16:02 DLR Shadwell - Canary Wharf

[fading parrot]

good train ride with Rico

Saw 3 66s then met wyndbain

[hushed urchin]

You where still in ottd drip

Have you not grown too tall for it

[fading parrot]

I was in ottd drip

I bought it a size higher

so I could wear it for longer

[hushed urchin]

Oh ok

[fading parrot]

I was wearing small but now I wear meduim

you should have come, it would have been a cool UK meetup

[floral cradle]

16:34-16:40 DLR Canary Wharf - Cutty Sark for Maritime Greenwich

[ember wharf]

But I wasn't there so you couldn't nick my camera

[hushed urchin]

What doing in curry sark

[floral cradle]

17:37-17:55 Southeastern Maze Hill - Canon Street

[floral cradle]

18:03-18:21 Circle Canon Street - Bayswater

[hushed urchin]

did you walk cutty sark - maze hill

[fading parrot]

this is good

grenwich is nice

[floral cradle]

Yes

It indeed was nice

[hushed urchin]

did you see the observatory

greenwich

and the date line

[floral cradle]

Yes

[hushed urchin]

good

[fading parrot]

did you jump across it (important)

[floral cradle]

No

[fading parrot]

failed

[hushed urchin]

did you straddle it

[floral cradle]

Actually maybe we didn't see it

[hushed urchin]

so half of you on each side

silly

[floral cradle]

We saw a thing

[hushed urchin]

theres an actual line in he groundd where it is

[floral cradle]

But didn't know if that was it

I thought it was the sun clock

[hushed urchin]

its mrked with a plaque

idiot

[fading parrot]

Rico you have failed

this is a critical part of visits to grenwich

[floral cradle]

I'm bus 7

I'm platform pls wait

This system is bad

8:03-12:05 GWR London Paddington - Par

I got assigned a window seat on the left

[obsidian perch]

nice

whats bus7

low number

[floral cradle]

Also pilot WRONG

Train is 80% empty

They have little lights for the reservations

[verbal bay]

Why are you not using stoptreinen to plymouth.

[floral cradle]

Because I'll take stoptreinen there

[verbal bay]

I dissaprove of the route you do.

[floral cradle]

This is the comfiest UK train station far

[verbal bay]

this is way to semi highspeed looking

[floral cradle]

It is

[verbal bay]

I'm enjoying my last bourgogne comté stoptrein

[floral cradle]

Reservation was free btw

Moffen

They're instantly fighting because reservations

They're spots are reserved

[neat ether]

Rico to Plymouth

[floral cradle]

They kicked people out

[neat ether]

Dangerous

[floral cradle]

Even though the train is half empty

[neat ether]

What do you make of our IETs?

[floral cradle]

This is the comfiest UK train I've had

Better than Eurostar

But it's still not great

Small tables

Hard seats

[neat ether]

Comfier than Eurostar? Mad

Yes

[floral cradle]

Have you been on an Eurostar

[neat ether]

Yes several

But I would still rank the IETs worse

[floral cradle]

They're very compact

[neat ether]

That's true but also just a theme of British trains

[floral cradle]

Especially if you're tall

[neat ether]

Did you do many trains in London?

[floral cradle]

The 2+3 London trains were worse

Wait let me get this gwyd

If I teleported I probably took the tube

[neat ether]

I see

Shadwell-Maze Hill is interesting

DLR?

[floral cradle]

Yes

[neat ether]

Nice

[floral cradle]

And walking up on the Greenwich hill

[neat ether]

Maze Hill-Cannon Street is pretty cool

[floral cradle]

Yes I liked that

[neat ether]

You can also get the service numbers of the UK trains if you like

[floral cradle]

In the end you basically saw another train every 20 seconds

From all sides

[neat ether]

Yes the London Bridge approach is very epic, especially around 6pm

You got a good variety

[floral cradle]

Yes

I wish I had more time in London

Also had a small argument with GWR woman if I could go through the gates already

Because the platform was on the board but not announced by sound already

[neat ether]

This is very silly

[floral cradle]

Yes

[neat ether]

Stoptreinen Zuid Londen tend to all be quite silly because it's all a mess

[floral cradle]

I liked this one

[neat ether]

This is stupid

At Paddington if you get on the footbridge over the platforms you can get on your train before it gets announced

[floral cradle]

Also the gates don't understand my ticket

[neat ether]

Oh stupid

[floral cradle]

So you always have to ask

[neat ether]

Is this because it's interrail

[floral cradle]

Yes

[neat ether]

Right

[floral cradle]

It's extra stupid because the gates have a qr scanner

Anyways we left on time

[neat ether]

Very good

[floral cradle]

This train is diesel right

It sounds electric

[neat ether]

It's both

When you get to uh

Reading? Newbury maybe?

They switch over to diesel

[floral cradle]

Extremely cool

[neat ether]

Yes this is what poor investment in infrastructure looks like

The trains get to carry an extra few tons in diesel engine because we couldn't be bothered to electrify properly

Once it's off the wires is diesel electric

[floral cradle]

Also does the UK not have line culture

Because I got cut off twice in ten minutes

I stopped the third person by out assholing them

[neat ether]

Very rude

[neat ether]

Valid

Apparently there's some unusual diesel waiting at Southall

Look out the left window in a couple minutes

I think it's a skip?

[floral cradle]

I saw a steam train in use

[neat ether]

Nice

That's for the Orient Express Pullman or something

There is a jam at Maidenhead

[floral cradle]

This train is going very fast already

Will I be delayed

[neat ether]

No

It's on the slow lines

But you'll see like 5 trains queued up

Yes the GWML is very quick and the IETs get up to speed very quickly

[floral cradle]

Hyped

We're slowing down before Maidenhead

[verbal bay]

You cant ve hyped for fasttrains... stoptreinen is muy importante

[floral cradle]

Reading

Next station is in over 100km

Barry, 63 is here

He said cheers after ticket check

So cool

[frank python]

Just because there isn't reservations, doesn't make a train empty.

Fortunately, you appear to have lucked out.

[floral cradle]

Hmm nice

[obsidian perch]

how do trains even jam

[neat ether]

Sometimes it's just like

A train gets stuck for some reason

I once got in a train jam when they had a bridge strike

So they couldn't let any trains through for like 15 minutes

[obsidian perch]

nice

[neat ether]

On the GWML that means a queue

On your average UK line closing for 15 minutes means no delay to anyone

[frank python]

Wut

Gwyd high

[floral cradle]

What's a bridge strike

[neat ether]

You're telling me if there was a blockage at Reedham for 15 minutes there would be severe queueing?

[frank python]

Where a tall vehicle hits a low bridge

[neat ether]

Something hits a bridge

[frank python]

Ah yes, because Reedham is the average line 😂

[neat ether]

Can also be something driving into a bridge over the line

[neat ether]

There are plenty of lines where nothing passes for more than 15 minutes

[obsidian perch]

the bridge wants higher wages

[floral cradle]

Is this a common occurrence

[frank python]

There's plenty more where there's a much more frequent occurrence

[neat ether]

Fairly common

[frank python]

Truck drivers are stupid

[floral cradle]

Hmm

[neat ether]

I've been affected by it twice

[obsidian perch]

nice

[neat ether]

The truck falling on train sort of thing is less common

[obsidian perch]

its pretty rare here I think

[floral cradle]

Lots of my trains in London were kinda delayed

[obsidian perch]

usually level crossings cause fuck ups

[floral cradle]

If not most

But not more than 5 minutes

[neat ether]

It's usually a 10 minute deal

Like train gets message of bridge strike

[floral cradle]

Well here it's also just too much traffic over lines with too little capacity

[neat ether]

Instructed to stop at signal before bridge, then proceed slowly and inspect the line

2 trains do that or something

Then it's all clear

[frank python]

We've got a bridge at work that is one of the most struck in the country... pita

[floral cradle]

Double track with trains every 5 minutes going at different speeds

[obsidian perch]

cool system

[floral cradle]

So when one train is like 5 minutes late it fucks up

[obsidian perch]

I think if something hits a bridge here they need ProRail guy to go look

[frank python]

This highly depends on the structure

Some bridges require inspection before any trains are allowed over them.

[obsidian perch]

this happened in Gouda

[frank python]

Others will still be inspected, but later.

[obsidian perch]

where the same boat hit the same bridge twice

[floral cradle]

This is the not important Gouda bridge right

[obsidian perch]

pretty nice

yes

this just means half hourly instead of 15 min headway on unimportant branch

[floral cradle]

They've got a guy here servings drinks and snacks

[obsidian perch]

this was like five years apart btw

but still

[floral cradle]

Schippers are more malafide than truckers

Leer moment

[obsidian perch]

truck drivers also cause problems

appie brug

but this matters less

[frank python]

The HSTs had proper Buffet cars, but they decided a trolley would be good for future...

[obsidian perch]

they do get stuck at level crossings more

[frank python]

Virgin fought to keep the Buffet on their Azumas, and won

So LNER still have Buffet cars

[obsidian perch]

UK trains often aren’t turbo long distance

[neat ether]

This is so sad

[obsidian perch]

London to Plymouth is only 3h

[neat ether]

IETs are all around bad

For passenger experience

[frank python]

UK trains, buffet cars are worthwhile on journeys over 2 hours

[neat ether]

I'd say it depends on how long between stops

I don't think anyone's advocating for buffets on the Cardiff-Penzance services

[frank python]

I absolutely am

[neat ether]

Fair

Class 700 restaurant car?

[frank python]

No, they're commuter trains, fuck em

[neat ether]

Only on the FLUs

[frank python]

Still no

Remove the double First Class whilst we're at it too

[floral cradle]

I'm slowing down in a field

[neat ether]

Oh also I only recently learned there were plans for TL to Ashford

Probably temporary speed restriction

[frank python]

Our just a curve...

[floral cradle]

Bad

[frank python]

Oh no! +3!

Terrible!

[floral cradle]

Yes

EXTREMELY bad

[neat ether]

Loosing time on open line with no traffic is embarrassing

[floral cradle]

Cool landscape here

Pretty cool how there's like nothing between Reading and Taunton

[frank python]

Tbf Gwyd, it lost most of it before Reading

[frank python]

There is

There's Newbury, Hungerford, Westbury, Frome, Castle Cary

You avoid Westbury tho

[floral cradle]

These aren't places

[neat ether]

Westbury is on the verge of being a place

So is Frome

[frank python]

I mean, Newbury was worthy of electrification too

And Hungerford basically has it's own dedicated shuttle as Bedwyn isn't real

Oh no! You're +5 Rico!

[floral cradle]

I'll die

[frank python]

Do it

[verbal bay]

there was one at zandvoortline last year on F1 sunday when they run the crazy pendel timetable

And they managed to keep the timetable working despite the track being shut for 15-30min

[frank python]

Rico passing Cement Works at Westbury

And now on Westbury Avoider

Rico is doing 2 pieces of track that have been deemed worthy of including on the rare track list...

Despite the fact neither part is rare.

In fact, the Frome avoiding line is the normal route...

Rico, train ahead +28 shouldn't delay you but could.

[frank python]

Due to a 40mph TSR caused by vegetation.

Also then a 90mph TSR from the viaduct up to Heywood Road Jn

Which will have cost you 1 min

But, fortunately for you, a few of the timings round there are based on old HST timings, which your train will destroy.

[floral cradle]

I did a track you haven't done???

[frank python]

No

I've done it plenty

[floral cradle]

Oh okay that would be insane

[frank python]

Oh neat... they're letting the freight go in front of you...

It's 110 mins early...

[floral cradle]

I don't have a connection to make

It's fine

[frank python]

If you want to do some track I haven't, get the Looe School trains

They go marginally further, up to Coombe Junction Halt

[floral cradle]

It depends on sinas

[pseudo pasture]

I want to see if i can do newquay, looe and falmouth with rico

[floral cradle]

Hmm what's the biggest city in Great Britain without a direct train to London

[frank python]

Salford

[floral cradle]

Very cool

This is probably a good place

[frank python]

But Salford is basically just part of Manchester...

[pseudo pasture]

This is not a real independent city

[floral cradle]

Wait this is just fake Manchester

[frank python]

Discounting Salford, it's Dunfermline

[floral cradle]

Hmm

[frank python]

Population just less than 50k

[floral cradle]

This is very far

[frank python]

Then it's Ripon, pop 16k

Then Wells, pop 10k

[floral cradle]

Countries with a direct train from everywhere to the capital are cool

This is France

[pseudo pasture]

Weert

[frank python]

Then the two fake Welsh cities of St Asaph and St Davids, combined population around 5k

So yeah, there's only 6 cities in GB without a direct train to London

Of which, 4 don't have trains at all

[floral cradle]

Oh this is cities

Which is oddly defined I guess

[frank python]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_the_United_Kingdom

[floral cradle]

Also sinas told me to stay on this train till par

[frank python]

You also have big places like Huddersfield, Barnsley, Blackburn, Burnley, etc.

Huddersfield was meant to have a direct train by now, but Covid stopped that

But there's Grand Central that stop two towns over at Mirfield specifically for Huddersfield

[floral cradle]

Cool

[pseudo pasture]

Blackppol

[frank python]

Has direct trains from Avanti

The first one runs fast via the Trent Valley, the other two are slow via Birmingham

[pseudo pasture]

I am still dissapointed that covid cancelled that gc service

[frank python]

Same

[floral cradle]

Ik Taunton

+1

[frank python]

9-car train from Blackpool to London that takes 4 hours..

[pseudo pasture]

After exeter is good

[floral cradle]

Yes

I'm on the left

[frank python]

If you get off at Crewe at 1300, you can get the 1323 to London and arrive at 1503

[floral cradle]

Yes but that's effort

[pseudo pasture]

My god, this stops everywhere

[neat ether]

Very slow 4h to Blackpool

[floral cradle]

People do a lot of effort to avoid transfers

[frank python]

Or, get the 1125 Blackpool to Preston, arrive at 1149 and get the 1201 to London, arriving at 1412.

[neat ether]

Oh what stops at SAD

[frank python]

So it's doable in less than 3 hours.

[pseudo pasture]

There are lnwr services that stop less

[frank python]

All Avanti's do on that stretch.

They're silly trains to maintain the northwards connections from Birmingham whilst also not removing a Birmingham - London train

There's also these...

[neat ether]

Walking pace

[frank python]

Just get the train either side...

[frank python]

Still quicker than this is to Brum

[neat ether]

Yeah but that's via EDB

[frank python]

aye

[floral cradle]

Why does this train ride take so long

This is like an hour longer than the eurostar

Trains longer than 2 hours shouldn't exist

[frank python]

Because the speed is slower, and it travels further?

[floral cradle]

Makes sense

[frank python]

The XC travels to Birmingham in 404 miles

The whole Eurostar to Amsterdam is only 369 miles

The Avanti travels to Birmingham in 296 miles

Which isn't too dissimilar a distance to London - Paris (307 miles)

And by comparison, the train to Birmingham:

1. calls 9 times en-route.
2. can only do a maximum of 125mph
3. has to curve through the hills of southern Scotland and the Lake District

[verbal bay]

yes this is good.

[pseudo pasture]

@floral cradle welke wagon

[floral cradle]

H

[obsidian perch]

very nice vibes

you guys should go beach

uk beach is probably pretty nice place to get drunk

especially if the weer is like this

[floral cradle]

It's very depressing

When are you sneltreinen Zuid Engeland Teun

[obsidian perch]

this is good

idk

[floral cradle]

It's kind of like Bretagne but in a different font here

[obsidian perch]

good rating

[ember wharf]

🤣

[floral cradle]

Totnes

[pseudo pasture]

Do you stop at ivybridge

Imma asume no

[neat ether]

https://www.realtimetrains.co.uk/service/gb-nr:P75370/2023-08-08/detailed#allox_id=0

[ember wharf]

@random dove opinion on this font?

[random dove]

0/10 no univers

tho cool scenery

windows xp hill except only the curve with completely different vegitation

[floral cradle]

It's pretty cool

The weather kinda sucks but this is part of the vibe I guess

[vocal kindle]

UK lore

[floral cradle]

12:13-13:05 GWR Par - Newquay

[neat ether]

2N06

[floral cradle]

13:10-13:58 GWR Newquay - Par

[neat ether]

2N07

Do you like 150s?

[floral cradle]

So nice

[neat ether]

Luxurious

[ember wharf]

Rico bepis

[floral cradle]

@neat ether

@obsidian perch

We're par for 80 minutes

[obsidian perch]

have fun in fowey

[floral cradle]

No

[obsidian perch]

this looks like a good place

[floral cradle]

We have 80 minute transfer

[obsidian perch]

so good

[neat ether]

Good

[neat ether]

Bad

[frank python]

Why?

The only train in 80 mins is the London...
Coulda got the 1407 to Plymouth for the 1515 London train...

[ember wharf]

Very nice

[floral cradle]

Looe branch

[hushed urchin]

How are you gettjn an 80 minute transfer there

[floral cradle]

We're getting early

14:52-15:17 GWR Par - Liskeard

[neat ether]

2P17

[hushed urchin]

It goes all the way from par

This is news to me

Oh no wait

I am stupid

[frank python]

You are

[floral cradle]

Arm signal

[hushed urchin]

Arm signal

[floral cradle]

This goes hard

[hushed urchin]

Rico 150 going hard

[glacial inlet]

this has similar vibes to CFL 2000 in rumelange

[hushed urchin]

What is this weird wire things on those poles

Ew

[hushed urchin]

Cucumber

[floral cradle]

15:50-16:23 GWR Liskeard - Looe

[hybrid iron]

Coat hanger looking ass buffer

[frank python]

This does track I haven't done...

Like, 50m worth 😂

[frank python]

Yeah, that bit

[floral cradle]

16:25-16:51 GWR Looe - Liskeard

[frank python]

Sinas taking sneaky pics of women in the window reflection...

@floral cradle are you gonna experience a 300km non-stop train whilst you're here?

Or even better, a 430km non-stop train?

[hushed urchin]

omg have you not done the full reversing bit

where it goes all the way back to the station

[frank python]

Nah, and it's just effort to go back to do...

[hushed urchin]

ive done track pilot hasnt

this is very goods

[frank python]

Congrats, all 50m of it

[hushed urchin]

too cracked

[frank python]

I'll probably go to Liskeard and walk down the hill to the Halt some time...

Then pick up the train from there...

[hushed urchin]

smh

not good enough

[raw warren]

even I have done that pilot

[frank python]

Congratulations

[floral cradle]

Don't think so

I'll mostly do regional trains

Reading to Taunton was quite long

17:19-17:46 GWR Liskeard - Plymouth

Kaulo

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