Chris lore

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Poland is even further away from Luxembourg

[cinder lichen]

rare frnehc hotles are normally cheap. especially thionville which is kinda nothign.

nothing in longwy?

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Nope

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:(

Nevermind

I'm not doing Luxembourg first if I'm doing anything at all next week

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these people need to stop doing tvv

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Ja man

If I do Luxembourg I want to do at least the Gouvy line

And if I can help it also the IC to Namur on the way back

Right

I was hoping to do Spa and Eupen via Aachen, and then back via Vise this weekend

I wanna do Spa funicular :(

And not do bus

I don't like bus

Now what do I do

[verbal mantle]

Vevey

[formal quarry]

Vevey

Seoul - Busan - Mokpo - Seoul - Gangneung - Donghae - Busan

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Er is daar niemand thuis jij oelewapper

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Het gaat om de reis, niet om de bestemming

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max vermoeiend

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Oh M-Bahn is currently not at Nürnberg

Stoptreinen Oost-Duitsland

:(

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Zondag met Lübeck

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dit is echt een enorm kutte grap

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Mooi

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Looks like a lovely town

[brazen mantle]

its crazy to me that youre finding out about lubeck in 2023

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Where is this

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bro

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On the way to prora

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old hanseatic city

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Yee

It has those vibes

I like

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Oh Schleswig-Holstein

This looks good

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Good hostel vibes

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Cheap apartment vibes

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6.6 on Booking.com

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6.6 is pauper score though

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Very pauper

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you want a 7 at least

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yee

I'll go entirely different city

Berlin is easy for skeer

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Berlin is good

You should go to KitKat

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Not sure I wanna do Berlin for an afternoon

I can't explain how much I don't care for going to bars or anything like that

Especially if I'm by myself

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Oh no it’s much better than that

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lies

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Just bring leather

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Max

If you don't have anything meaningful to say

Please

Recognise this

Anyway

Berlin isn't a place I'd want to be for just a night and a morning

Leipzig it is

I considered Bremen but then reckoned I passed by Bremen on the way there

Hence the choice to go for Leipzig

[brazen mantle]

this is flink

sassnitz

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sassnitz isn't worth it in winter.

it's very very very dead

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I don't care

Remember the Nazi beach resort at Prora?

[cinder lichen]

oh you take the branch to binz.

that may be better

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Yeah there's an Oldtimer museum there that has an M-Bahn

I believe this may be the only museum with one

English wikipedia says Nürnberg but that's a lie

There's also a prototype at the Deutsches Technikmuseum in Berlin but I'll go visit that when I visit Berlin

It's right thereon the website

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You should Miniatur Wunderland in Hamburg

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I will not be stopping in Hamburg

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Sad

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It does sound neat tho

[formal quarry]

Another time maybe, accommodation is more expensive so you should just continue traveling afterwards

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Ye

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cool prora is so far from binz that it gets its own station

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Two even

[brazen mantle]

ohh theres a narrow gauge railway

nice theres a short section of dual gauge as well it looks like

this area looks good

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Verified that if things go wrong I can get home from Leipzig in time in a variety of ways

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"Ah yes, 3 day weekend abroad, only €60"

Forgot about the interrail

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https://vxtwitter.com/Cas_Plz/status/1716939469776101517

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sparpreis + 50€ ticket is misschien nog wel voordeliger

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I did the math already it's not

[cinder lichen]

yeah, youth interrail is pretty easy voordeliger, on full fare it can be a lot closer also depending where and how long one goes.

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👍

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Apparently got a €2 discount on one of the hostels for reasons

This is nice

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Interrail is only really voordeliger if I can find ways to make it worth almost every day of the ticket

Just gotta travel more ig

But not to Luxembourg because that's not worth it it seems

Unless I go home via France and/or Germany

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do that

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Guess I will

No maintenance on the Trier railway either

very nice

Right

Saturday

[brazen mantle]

why is this a reisadvies

bad

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First IC is apparently at 8:09

only sprinters until then

Ja ik ben bezig smh

Of course it was too good to be true

I guess I'll just take the L

At least this is only for the domestic part to the hostel

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you should always be planning your next trip

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How many trips do you plan ahead?

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depends

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I'm mostly looking to fill up 10 interrail days in 2 November and December

But I'm not sure where to go in two-day weekends

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rheinstrecke windowhang

hdf

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You need to have an IC there, no?

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yes

That's why it's good for interrail

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Any?

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only the ones with bistro

idk what the bordbistro carriage abbreviation is

But you can filter by carriage on vagonweb

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Do kinda need good weather for Rheinstrecke, no?

Is last-minute hafas information reliable?

[cinder lichen]

hafas is live updated.

this site is also good, you can filter wagon type too, to find hangable bistro https://www.fernbahn.de/datenbank/suche/

IC2010/2011 seems to be the only IC with bistro that traverses rheinvalley

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yeah they removed a bunch of them last month

[hushed umbra]

There are more

Including ec's

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ah yes

I couldn't find it because I asked hafas for trains to Frankfurt instead of Mainz

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that one has the wrong bordrestaurant

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Wait

Hmm

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it has a sbb one

which isnt hangable

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ye

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all single digit ECs are sbb trains

[cinder lichen]

EC 114/115

is DB with bistro

And IC1910. that are all bistro IC on theintall i can find

EC9/10 is good first class since panorama coach

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How accurate is this?

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wdym

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Well I'm specifically looking for weekends

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working day often means saturday too

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And it seems like IC2010 and 2011 don't run then

[oblique adder]

idk if thats the case in germany too

if they're not in the timetable then they dont run

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There we go

Thanks

the information was accurate

It indeed didn't run on saturdays

[cinder lichen]

Working is Mo-Fr allmsot everywhere in timetables

it does run on sundays right?

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It runs sundays yes

But it specifically says so

That's the 7

This instils much confidence

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@oblique adder Can you reserve a seat on a DB train you're already on or about to board via ÖBB?

Would be nice if I could decide a train is too full and then just kick someone out of a seat for €3

[brazen mantle]

yes usually i think

i have reserved through oebb with very short notice

[cinder lichen]

isn't it upto 10min after departure with DB or somthing?

obb may be same

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after even

Fantastic

Thanks

[cinder lichen]

you could test this though I'm not 100% sure but i rememebr reading somethign liek this

[hushed umbra]

this should be an IC2 if im right?

[cinder lichen]

well this has left and allows to make reservation

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yeah

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Very nice

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I suppose I could've ye

Anyway thank you guys for helping me plan that one

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Hmm I need more 3 day weekends

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same

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December is a bad month

Sinterklaas, Christmas and New Year's all prevent me from doing things

[brazen mantle]

maybe that’s ok

you will have money and a lot of life left as well

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But I will also have interrail days left

[brazen mantle]

which is fine because of the before mentioned I think

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you can get far in a 2 day weekend

go ride the schwebebahn

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This can be done the same day as the Rheinstrecke

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fly one way

train back the other day

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Ah yes

Dropping by plane

One-way flight to Pisa €15

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this is good

from eindhoven?

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yes

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this is good

ryanair pays the government 24 euros in tax for that seat

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This is good

Damn compensating the CO2 for this is €3 so I can pretend to not feel bad about it

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don't be a pussy

[royal python]

The compensation is very fake

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Yes

This is what makes me want to not do that

[royal python]

Yes I agree and would not buy that

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oof

Damn the Tower of Pisa is a 45 min walk from the airport

[brazen mantle]

honestly

pisa is doable back in a weekend

jesus christ the airport is like

right next to the main station

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Ye

[brazen mantle]

its kind of silly that they even have a shuttle train

it probably takes longer from touchdown to airport exist then from airport exit to the duomo

you could maybe do some other places in tuscany

lucca is very close and quite nice

sienna might be my fave city there but its a bit away and the station is forever away from the city

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can't really go miss with any city in this part of italy

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Lucca doesn't get any trains on sunday

[brazen mantle]

what

bro what the fuck is italy doing

this is almost helmond sized

[cinder lichen]

pisa is one of the leat except the tower and the duomo area. (the tower is the least interesting oof them)

??? i get sunday trains there

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Try 10th of December

[brazen mantle]

the pisa duomo is quite nice i think

its quite impressive just how much the white marble contrasts the green space

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Maybe new It timetables are not yet in hafas fully?

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Pisa works fine

[cinder lichen]

I liked the baptistery most.

[brazen mantle]

also chris doesnt actually like cities he likes trains

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I want to like cities

[brazen mantle]

idk maybe you can just like mountains theyre really cool too

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I've made sure to have several hours to check out Lübeck and Leipzig

But if the plan is to fly somewhere, and be back home the next day I do need to be able to be home the next day

[brazen mantle]

i think the meta is

whats it called

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pretty sure this is because for lucca there is no 2024 timetable yet in systems. it doesnt work on tren italia site either. also not for weekdays.

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ah

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i cant remember the swiss passes

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very nice

[brazen mantle]

oh yes

lotscheberg

i think this is considered nicer then gottard

and idk if brenner is feasible

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Are these not just tunnels?

[brazen mantle]

no

they have tunnels

but good valley descents too

maybe you can even andermatt brig

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Another reason December sucks then IG

[cinder lichen]

This one is good.

[brazen mantle]

maybe doing liguria novara lago maggiore lotscheberg is a good route

[cinder lichen]

Domodosolla to brig and then via lotschberg pass to bern.

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Italian hostels are quite low in rating

[brazen mantle]

that part of ligurian coast is supposed to be very nice

hmm

[cinder lichen]

Is brenner tunnel still closed for pax trains??

that may give more options for over the pass.

[brazen mantle]

ECs use lotscheberg base tunnel right?

[cinder lichen]

Yeah. only locals go over top.

[brazen mantle]

you mean gottard tunnel?

brenner base tunnel wont open until like 2030

[cinder lichen]

ow yea srry. gottard, not brenner

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Thinking Italy is more worth if I had a 3 day weekend so I could actually enjoy the places I'm in

[cinder lichen]

Can't you reach southern germany easier for a 2 day. Munich. Konstanz idk jus norht at the foot of alps?

[brazen mantle]

the swiss mountains are still really nice

[cinder lichen]

Schwarzwald bahn is nice too and very reachable.

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I've done that one already in summer

I can get to Zürich by 16:00

[brazen mantle]

is this the suttgart schafhausen

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wtf that pisa airport

[oblique adder]

no

[brazen mantle]

yes

pisa airport is crazy

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Schaffhausen looks really nice

Zürich just straight up has no hostels under €40 for this date

[verbal mantle]

just go vevey

[oblique adder]

it is

basel often has cheap hotels just across the border

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?????

A hotel room for €5

I don't think this will work

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sus

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I might just do Rheinstrecke raamhangen isolated from Wuppertal

Go Wuppertal some other time

I do like the idea of costing Ryanair €10 tho

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€26.43 apparently

[cinder lichen]

No i think. Freiburg-Donaueschingen is schwarzwaldbahn

or donaueschingen- offenburg

i think the last

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It could be fun to just book the flight to Pisa, check out Pisa for a few hours, book a cheap hostel in Milan way in advance, sleep there, and then not plan how I'm getting back until the day after

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Are there any Ryanair things to look out for?

[cinder lichen]

just play by the rules.

for luggage allowance, online checkin etc

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Ah so make sure to check in online

[cinder lichen]

wel you have to.

unles very hefty fee

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Yes I've heard this

[cinder lichen]

but it's quite clearly in the emails etc... people who don't are jsut stupid...

just pay peanuts get peanuts basicly. Atleast you don't have to fight for a place anymore since you get assigned seats nowadays

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ah nice

No weight limits for backpack?

[cinder lichen]

ofc there is

https://help.ryanair.com/hc/en-mt/articles/12888036565521-Ryanair-s-Bag-Policy

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I can't find it

It's not here

"This allows you to carry a small personal bag (40x20x25cm), which must fit under the seat in front of you"

[formal quarry]

7kg carry on usually

Should tell you during booking

[cinder lichen]

10kg is pretty usual.

[formal quarry]

just be prepared for a shit experience but that’s what you’re paying for really

[cinder lichen]

really unless carrying pieces of lead you barely gonna fit that in the free bag anyway

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Ye

[cinder lichen]

Its a fine experience for literally barely paying lol

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They're netting a loss on this purely on tax so I'm not gonna be too picky

[cinder lichen]

seems like thye dropepd a weight for th esmall carry-on. nowadays.

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Are you required to pick a seat?

You are not

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Anyway got a ticket

I've successfully cost Ryanair at least €11

Saving the planet one ticket at a time

Must say I kinda expected there to be more options for getting home from Pisa by monday

[oblique adder]

but nobody weighs

[oblique adder]

incredibly based

@rich hatch de geit is gemolken

[oblique adder]

i've never been checked for the size btw

and even if they do, you can just shove it into the box that's that size

if its flexible they dont care

[stable cloak]

I had a pointy thing of a flag stick pointing out of my backpack and they just let me through

[formal quarry]

De bruine beer zit in de boot

[oblique adder]

max what the fuck are you talking about

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[cinder lichen]

would try again closer to the 10th. seems italy didn't publish the 2024 timtable fully

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I was more referring to how much Milan acts like a bottleneck

I will have to go through Milan

[oblique adder]

i mean

from there you can always do the bernina railway

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Also good frequency from Pisa to Milan

Rico would love this

[oblique adder]

which route is this

is this the direct train

via modane

this doesn't run

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Modane is France

[oblique adder]

i know

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Train Pisa to Milan does not go through France

[oblique adder]

oh i cant read

or think idk

nvm

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It's via Genova

Going via Firenze saves an hour

Oh reservations required

[oblique adder]

this is for all italian long distance trains

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Bad

OBB gives the faster route that hafas doesn't

Anyway Hostel booked

[oblique adder]

good

[rich hatch]

good

[formal quarry]

good

[royal python]

good

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Fuck I looked at norway on a map again

[formal quarry]

Why

This is dangerous for your wallet

[hushed umbra]

this keeps happening to me with spain

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Well I have the map of places I've been

And Norway is a bit hard to miss

Damn Mercator projection

[oblique adder]

100% it

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I am considering it

Though thinking maybe March

Gotta sing Let it go in Arendal

[formal quarry]

Norway big

[oblique adder]

I need to go here

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I will miljoenenlijn saturday

[brazen mantle]

enjoy

i assume the seasons very nearly over right

or do they run up to christmas maybe too

[stable cloak]

eng

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I was indeed inspired by you saying it was stoomtreindagen

[stable cloak]

this weekend and then december quite a lot actually

and first week of january

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Not sure if they just don't have after that because it's too far in advance

[stable cloak]

i believe april or may they start again

they always have winter break

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Ah

Makes sense

Gotta do maintenance

[stable cloak]

yeah

[brazen mantle]

when is dieseltreindagen

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I can't see the first rijdag after the winter break

[stable cloak]

yeah probably not put in yet

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I'm wondering if it's fun enough to get out at Vetschau, walk to Aachen Hbf and just go back home from there

[stable cloak]

isnt that quite far

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Oh 1.5h

[brazen mantle]

I think you could make it to line 44 easily though

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Does Arriva always stop at Aachen West?

[brazen mantle]

to Heerlen

[stable cloak]

i guess kohlscheid isn't a lot closer

[stable cloak]

i believe so yes

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Aachen West is only 1h and a bit

Kohlscheid is only a little bit closer than Aachen West

But OV-chip not valid there

[stable cloak]

yeah

[brazen mantle]

direct bus to heerlen

ovchip is valid here*

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But bus :(

I can also take choo choo train

[brazen mantle]

if you dislike bus try something else i guess

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Taking a bus there isn't a good meme

[stable cloak]

saturday is also SSN to zlsm

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SSN?

[brazen mantle]

or just take the train back tbh

[stable cloak]

Stoom Stichting Nederland

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Ye I'll be doing that

This sounds like expensive

[stable cloak]

it is

[verbal mantle]

chris eng

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This has more trains than on the website

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Wtf bus altijd korting is 20% for €18 a month, while dal korting is 40% for €15 a year, and 9292 measures korting at 34%

[cinder lichen]

this si because the 20% altijd is for all of NL busses, the 40% dal is the regional one only working in arriva brabant busses. (maybe hermes bravo too?)

they stack too. if you have both you get 60% korting

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This was an external company btw, I didn't realise Ryanair hoped to get you to pay for that too

[cinder lichen]

don't most companies arrange this trough external Co2 compenstaion companies. (be it visible or invisibael for customer). Just wait till you are one the plane lol. Adverts everywhere, trolley selling all kinds of crap and ofcourse the ryanair lottery tickets and scratchcards.

they really naile dit to get your ticket as cheap as possible and make money in 1000 other ways.

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I've been on a Ryanair plane before

I've seen how full of ads they are

But the CO2 compensation companies that airlines book are extremely ineffective

[cinder lichen]

this doesn't matter. this is only to give the people who buy it a good feeling.

[hushed umbra]

https://www.railtech.com/rolling-stock/2023/10/27/too-many-ertms-versions-are-causing-headaches-to-companies-in-the-rolling-stock-business/
good luck chris

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Thanks

[oblique adder]

Ive only seen the ads on the plane once

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time

2923 8:09-9:30 's-Hertogenbosch - Maastricht

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32024 9:42-9:59 Maastricht - Schin op Geul

Meersen has a really nice station building

Houthem St. Gerlach is also nice

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Squirrel running across the tracks

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Really comfy seats

[ZLSM] 405 10:45-11:13 Schin op Geul - Simpelveld

[royal python]

Aaaaaa so cool

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Didn't expect to see this here

[oblique adder]

Karel is everywhere

ugly ahh paint

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There's a liquor vendor here

There's also ZLSM likeur in the souvenir shop

Just changed

Train isn't even at the platform yet

[ZLSM] 307 12:00-12:20 Simpelveld - Vetschau

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Huge station

[ZLSM] 308 12:25-12:50 Vetschau - Simpelveld

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Wanted to go to Kerkrade

Zug wartet NICHT

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I caved

Another half an hour until the train to kerkrade

Which I missed due to a slow overweg

I'll have to wait an hour again if I take the train back from Kerkrade

So I'll go home from there

Anyway, so far, VSM >> ZLSM

Though ZLSM does have way more comfortable seats

[cinder lichen]

Is it worth to go zlsm?

might go tmmr

or is it just 100rds of fappers

[brittle remnant]

It's very busy

But if you like taking steamers it's a decent place

I've just found Simpelveld a horrible place to transfer

[cinder lichen]

well these days arent really meant to be used as usefull travel anyway ofc. Idk i was thinking to combine it with completing limburg on my map.

or combine it spa-geronstere instead

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I feel like any other weekend would've been faster to 100% ZLSM

This is the only museum line with transfers, so it may be a fair statement that it's the worst in the country

But that's of course unfair to Boeklo

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• heel veel

[cinder lichen]

Tom also there, cool.

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[ZLSM] 511 14:15-14:33 Simpelveld - Kerkrade

Just departed

So +40ish

[stable cloak]

We only have +15

Arrival was +45 tho

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My train doesn't suffer from staplaatsen tho

It does suffer from no longer going forwarditis

The kerkrade - Simpelveld part has no good views

[stable cloak]

Mine does

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Yes, I noticed this

This wasn't even steam

[formal quarry]

Good shit

[brittle remnant]

Time to go home

If you have €20 to spare

[verbal mantle]

Chris home

Chrome

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I recommend getting an Euregio-ticket and avoiding ZLSM

The best views of the ZLSM can also be enjoyed on the RS18 and the RE18

Maybe not those exact views but very similar ones

But they're a lot faster and more frequent

And on that ticket you can also go to a variety of other places in the area

32047 15:35-15:47 Kerkrade Centrum - Heerlen

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13960 15:49-16:51 Heerlen-Eindhoven

[hushed umbra]

weert express

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I've arrived at Weert

[brazen mantle]

Eindhoven

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860 17:06-17:25 Eindhoven - 's-Hertogenbosch

Discord just sent it twice

[oblique adder]

this is enough to train to crl plus a ryanair flight

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It's also enough to wait 1 hour 45 min for not even a steam train

[brazen mantle]

personally I like the diesels they have more

steam is just kinda not nice

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Ye

The VSM steamers are all really nice in my opinion

But these are a bit meh compared to their diesels

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Map updated

Changed background map too so I could see national borders more easily

[oblique adder]

good

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https://eratonysiad.github.io/WF/webapp/#6/52.025/6.229

Why can't I pin things to my own threads?

smh

[oblique adder]

how do you update the map

[brittle remnant]

Forgot to push the commit

But I add new line segments directly to Route_2.js

[oblique adder]

I mean the uploading thing

do you use the github desktop thing

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Github Desktop

[oblique adder]

right

hoped you had found something easier

[brittle remnant]

I find it easy enough

[formal quarry]

you can also make commits on GitHub itself

but ideally you’d just use a proper IDE or editor and use its built in vcs tools

[oblique adder]

what the fuck is an ide

[formal quarry]

integrated development environment

[oblique adder]

nerd shit

[formal quarry]

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No

[formal quarry]

Smh

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chris do you have geojson files of simpelveld-vetschau and simpelveld-kerkrade zlsm

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Can't you make them yourself?

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it doesn't work

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Even when dragging?

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yes

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Yeah they're not in signals.eu

I traced it in google earth

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Is this good enough?

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think so yes

ty

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It wasn't a big deal for me today as I'd already done it

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yeah

thats why i asked you

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@stable cloak use overpass turbo for this:

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i already have the lines now tho

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Hmm

Make my map Kyan

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send your travels and money

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Prepared map for next week

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nice

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@oblique adder What is the ICE Amsterdam-Basel interrail border meta?

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fraud

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lol

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they don't regularly check between Arnhem and Oberhausen?

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no

And interrail scans fine

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Amsterdam-Basel is fucked anyway as of new. They only go till keulen. Make sure you got a backup plan for DB screwing up the connections

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👍

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Added boten

I don't expect to be doing many boats

But boats are a good vibe

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Where'd you get the boat routes

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Take more boats

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I traced it on google earth

Except there was nothing to trace

So I just guessed what the route was

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this works

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Forgor

Didn't hug the fjord on the way to Barentzburg

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you didn't stop at the other glacier?

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I didn't go to the one you went to

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:( the Stavoren boat won't run until late April

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the Newcastle boat runs all year

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Yes but then you're in the UK

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yes

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Thanks, very helpful

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Based

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NS international won't sell you Venlo-Kaldenkirchen, but it will sell you Blerick-Kaldenkirchen, which costs the same if you have 100% off in NL, €1.70

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yes theres a reason for this

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Everyone just booking the ticket just to cross the border?

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venlo - kaldenkirchen is a normal VRR ticket

ns can't sell those

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Would the ticket even be valid then?

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yea

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weird

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I wish I could set google flights to only show flights €25 or cheaper

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€50 works but you do gotta zoom in and out a bit

since it doesnt show all airports otherwise

which is bad

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ye

It's suboptimal

But I like paying very little, but I especially like paying less than the flight tax

Something like this

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this is good

go to moldova

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From what I can see

1tpd Iasi to Chisinau on a good day

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two

theres a day and a night train

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Okay I can only see the night train

only €10

Most days I just get a "no, I don't think I will"

Ah

There's only 1 train from Iasi, but indeed 2 from Iasi Socola

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finally earn money, able to spend
spend the least possible
Based

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This is the strat

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Anyway, I've managed to fill all interrail days

Prora museum
Pisa meme
Luxembourg weekend
Prague weekend
Wuppertal
Rheinstrecke

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good

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Budgetted it quite well too

Can't turn vakantiegeld into vakantiedagen in the first 2 months, not including food, souvenirs, and museums in Prague and Luxembourg I'm only €22 a month above said vakantiegeld

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Rügen sounds quite fun

I love the beach in autumn

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I should go ahead and get the Luxembourg trip booked

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chris lore announcement

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Go camping

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I will be doing no such thing in fucking November

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Fair

May camping is fine

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Did it in summer not too long ago

It was lame

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You can speedrun luxemburg if all lines are open with like 3 days camping

For under €100 from maastricht

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👍

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For 2 people

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I'm staying 1 night

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Good

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Coming in via Gouvy

checking out the city

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i should lux too tbh

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Sleeping in Esch

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where in esch

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Fucking off via Trier

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the only cheap place I can find there is some places with a like 3.2 on booking lol

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Youth Hostel Esch/Alzette

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ah hostel bed

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ye

€37. Still a bit pricy

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yikes

would rather get a room in thionville then for like 50

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But note that then you need to pay for the train to Thionville, and €13 more

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werent you going with interrail

train to thionville is 3.90

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The first day I'm not using an interrail day

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thionville also has a bus to one of those weird branch line termini

for like 2 euro

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I still maintain this is €15 more

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this is twice as expensive a sa french bus should be

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worth

you need to go to thionville anyways for 100%

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I won't 100% a country that's registed at the UN as TVV

The whole country

All the fucking time

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I still dont understand how

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Yes this is impressive

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i think camping in this weather isnt even that bad

its not freezing yet

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I didn't really enjoy it in summer either

It also wasn't freezing back then but it was cold enough for the cold to wake me up

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Chris pussy

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Rude

I'm also thinking the thing that it wouldn't have been half as boring if I wasn't out camping by myself

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You should go camping in France and try to fry nuggets in a small pan with lots of oil

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I have never camped alone so

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Good vibes

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Yeah so I really do not like being in a car for several hours

You can't do anything, I can hardly understand what the others are saying. Less leg room than Ryanair

Overall a miserable experience that I've come to learn I share with exactly noone on the planet, which also speaks for the resultant understanding I get

Or rather it's the other way around. People have the tendency to express their understanding for this specific thing by means of hostility, which could only be explained by noone else having this problem

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where did you go

also i feel this way

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Poppel

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why poppel

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Belgium has bivakplaatsen

Free campings

And poppel was the closest one to where I live

I've already been DB'ed

this is for tomorrow

Oh we're skipping Duisburg

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Thats this stuff

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Nah hafas says it only skips Duisburg

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lack of br406 makes them change up the basel services various way to jsut to freeup ane xtra nl capable sets.

duisburg pranked

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wait

105 is back?

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This could be diverted via a freight only line

RARE

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sometimes it just doesn't stop in duisburg because of construction

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green instead of blue is the only way to bypass duisburg.

unless thye use soem non platform track

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Chris bordbistro

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This would be cool

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It's not possible to make that turn near Duisburg-Obermeiderich

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hmm didn't zoom egnough

there is not really a way to skip duisburg but do oberhausen then

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They say platform 13

Looking at satellite imagery, you can't reverse out of Oberhausen from there

We shall see

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hmm weird... maybe the renovation of duisburg makes some platforms unavailable for a stop

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I can only really imagine it just going past Duisburg and not stopping

Oh openrailwaymap has platform numbers

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they roll through platform tracks lol

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rip so why no halt then

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Interrail pass purchased

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congrats.

have fun

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I had this in summer in austria a couple times as well

In the morning chocoladepasta was way too stiff because it was too cold

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do you actualyl also get FIP tickets with prorial?

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of course, how do you think we got them lol

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Not the first year

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you have to work there for quite a few years to actually get enough points to spend on FIP tickets that are worth it

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this sounds like a dumb system

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just tell me whenever you get the 1st class FIP tickets in Germany so I can remind you that you can use the DB Premium Lounges as long as you bring your NS Business Card

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I haven't been told about the system

Just that I can't get them in the first year

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Interrail app says I need a supplement for the ICE to Düsseldorf

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Bus +5 time

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Are you going Ht?

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I am just now arriving at Ht

Sprinter Leiden

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2410 7:55-8:58 's-Hertogenbosch - Venlo

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I was verblijf

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This means nothing to me

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The app lies

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This does not surprise me

Anyway going via Venlo.

Transfer in Dusseldorf is 10min longer this way

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Foreigner (Ukrainian?) Complaining about people in this area being poor, because he supposedly made €100+ on statiegeld in Zuid Limburg

RE13 20073 9:05-10:09 Venlo - Düsseldorf Hbf

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👃 Hbf

Sehr geehrte Fahrgäste

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are you getting DB'ed already?

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He’s not wrong

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Just a few minutes it seems

+3 in Dusseldorf Hbf

He eepy

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zzz

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First beggar 👍

"No money only food"

Said I didn't have money to buy her food. Now coins were fine

This is good because I can say I don't have cash without lying

Next train+5

Alkmaar??????

+8

I like this

Pogg

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Düsseldorf mid

Don’t go there at night

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ICE736 10:29+9-14:42 Düsseldorf Hbf-Lübeck Hbf

ICE2 good

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Large group of Dutch people

Asked to leave because of problems with a door

In stiltecoupe now because we were asked to bitte opkankeren

Essen Hbf, train very busy now

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Ice 1 my very very beloved aaaa

Ice 2 also very beloved

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Oh is this 1?

I thought 1 was long gone

Damn DB conductor said "dank je wel meneer"

We can't go past Wanne-Eickel Hbf for an indeterminate amount of time

Better pic of ICE

Ah yes it is indeed an ICE1

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very nice

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Person on tracks

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Nah they are staying till 2030 at least

They are still being renovated rn

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Yes and you can tell by the lack of big coupling doors

Absolute icon of a train

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Oh they're only a little older than the VIRMs

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And the 401 on the side

We are moving :D

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True lol

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Yippee

And the roof of the ice 2 bordrestaurant doesnt bulge out

(And ice 2 has 1 stuurstandrijtuig with passenger room)

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Just missed a photo opportunity

Signalling hut had "Bro Wanne-Eickel Hbf" on it

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Lol

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It's a good thing I don't have any transfers to worry about

Means the delays are just annoying, not something that requires action

Meal 1 of 6 eaten

I just have the buns I baked myself and 2 types of spread

Buns are relatively big so this is fine

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+45 arrival in Münster

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It's beautiful here with the autumn colours

Can't get any good pics so this will have to do

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Train is getting cancelled in Hamburg Harburg

Stoptreinen Noord-Duitsland

Another announcement saying there's a problem with this exact itinerary but idk what he said and hafas doesn't seem to know either

Every single screen has a clock

The time is wrong on all of them

None of them show the same time

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enjoy

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Travel planner says train runs

It's a lie

Sbahn time

I will miss the RE to Lübeck with 1 min

S3 14:20-14:35 Hamburg Harburg - Hamburg Hbf

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I hate DB

Had a train just like this last time I was here

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Why do you use the hafas website

boomer

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It's nice and fast

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SBB/DB app are much more usable on mobile

Same database

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Hmm I expected DB app to be much slower

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Jordi moment

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is your camera that zoomed in

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RE 8 15:06-15:50 Hamburg Hbf - Lübecl Hbf

No I'm that close to the tracks

Nice autistenstoel got

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But yeah I expected it not to be because NS and NMBS are bad like that

The platform was packed, so I couldn't take a pic from a good angle

Ah ye I completely forgot about the bookmarking feature the DB app has

This is good

Old man wanted to kick a child out of a seat so he could have a window seat as those come with tables

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good

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His meal is a massive slab of meat

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Bad

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Deense neus my very very very very very extremely beloved and favourite scandinavian train

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I've been in 3

Had to transfer on my way to Copenhagen, and had a direct on the way back

He's asking for money now

Maybe McDonald's has money

Then he can be with slabs of meat all day

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👌

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I thought this was West Germany

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Lübeck was right on the border

also love the store name “fischkonzept”

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Yes

But on the western side, no?

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I give Lübeck and the Hanze museum a very nice/10

Would've liked if it was still light out

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this is why you travel in summer

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I guess so

But it currently is not summer

And I wanted to go see the M-Bahn

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fair enough

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If they end up not having it, I will break the geneva conventions

(this is easily done without causing harm)

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if you travel in summer the trains are annoyingly busy

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RE4 7:03-7:52 Lübeck Hbf- Bad Kleinen

Massive arches here so they could keep the historical roof

+5

@minor cave stoptreinen Oost-Duitsland

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1st class in this train has the exact same seats, just in 2-1 configuration instead of 2-2

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Burnt my tongue on some mediocre coffee

RE1 8:03-8:50 Bad Kleinen - Rostock Hbf

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Stoptreinen oost duitsland. good

Also nice weather it seems?

you choose a good day

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Yeah the weather is great today

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good. in NL is het ruk

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It was quite cloudy yesterday, so I'm surprised

Ye I noticed when I left

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My train is +8

The next is +5

The platform is utterly packed

ODEG RE9 9:00+7-10:48 Rostock Hbf - Prora

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Small (big) complication

This is not the right train

This train is the right one

But it may or may not actually continue to Prora

The train says the terminus is a stop sooner

The db app disagrees

Fuck Germany

Conductor came to check tickets

"Einfach sitzen bleiben"

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lol

[minor cave]

🤩🤩🤩

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Worried about nothing

Imagine if the IC Alkmaar says "Amsterdam Centraal" but then just casually continues

[minor cave]

This happens

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@minor cave

[minor cave]

Thanks

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I have arrived

"BIST DU ZUFRIEDEN?"

Says the guy who said I had to TVV here

And there we have it

The reason I came all this way

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Cool

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AEG

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They have a lot of trains for an oldtimer museum

Like this huge soviet one

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Yoooo

Very pretty

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Huge N-scale collection here

Ticket sales are in this thing

My job here is done

Time to see the nazi hotel

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Damn

This should be mine

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They appear to be renovating the whole thing

Good station

Train back is +11

I'll just miss the connection like this

ODEG RE9 12:10+9 - 12:57+7

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Sehr geehrte Fahrgäste, the train I need will wait for us

[royal python]

A n s c h l u s s W a r t e t !

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They had this in Prora

Wartende Anschluss

RE5 13:02+Anschluss- 16:09 Stralsund Hbf-Berlin Hbf

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⬆️ 3️⃣

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My train has accrued 11 minutes of delay

My next train has seemed to have caught up

Blue hair girl with a staff with a (fake) bird's skull on it

I found a seat reserved directly after Leipzig

That works

ICE603 16:29-17:42 Berlin Hbf - Leipzig Hbf

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2 of the buns have succumbed to being stuffed in a backpack

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oh no

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Guys here so keen on smoking again after an hour or so, they'd prepared a cigarette 5 min before arrival

Anyway +10 in Leipzig Hbf

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Lmao

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Rain :(

This seems very malafide

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Drunk girl just barked at me

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woef

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More a kef kef

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cool

how did you react to this

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Not at all really

Just kept walking

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nice

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My train is +33 already

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This is still the best connection

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What's your plan today

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Going home

Leipzig-Frankfurt-Aachen

Can't go via Venlo

Or Emmerich

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come do biertrein with me

🥺

14:33 departure Berlin hbf

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this is pretty doable

how laat is this den bosch

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19:00

Was planning to hang out with some friends after this

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Ah yeah biertrein would be 21:07 db

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Why do you plan this after a day of db

when will you learn

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This was their idea

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this is a bad idea

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I'm hoping to get to bed somewhat early today anyway

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21:07 is early

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If I lived in the station building