#Top 20 (Or more) Best DRIVERS of all time (Not just F1)

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obsidian plover
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  1. Mario Andretti
  2. Jim Clark
  3. Michael Schumacher
  4. Graham Hill
  5. Lewis Hamilton
  6. AJ Foyt
  7. Valentino Rossi
  8. Fernando Alonso
  9. Sebastian Vettel
  10. Jacky Ickx
  11. Niki Lauda
  12. Juan Pablo Montoya
  13. Alain Prost
  14. Ayrton Senna
vast mural
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@dusk edge Here

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@hazy mantle @ashen pelican

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@echo widget

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whwat

vast mural
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Make your own lists

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I think my top 4 is good but the rest is honestly conjecture

hazy mantle
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I can’t

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I don’t watch many Motorsports

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But I do think that valentino Rossi should be up there

vast mural
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That's fair, in place of who?

ashen pelican
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He's also competing in the top tier of GT racing

hazy mantle
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That’s the hard part

ashen pelican
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He's raced in the top tier of motorcycles, rally and GT

vast mural
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10 is such a small number, we have room for very few people

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I think... he displaces Vettel

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Everyone moves down a spot and Montoya's out of the top 10

hazy mantle
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From my knowledge vettel raced F1 and only F1

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Right?

ashen pelican
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Think so

vast mural
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Yeah

hazy mantle
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he also won in a minardi

vast mural
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If AJ Foyt had won an F1 World Championship he'd be number 1

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But he barely even raced in it

ashen pelican
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Also Graham hill should be a bit lower

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He won le mans only when it was at its worst in its era

hazy mantle
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The hills own racing

vast mural
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But he did achieve a triple crown after all

vast mural
hazy mantle
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GUYS

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Ken Miles

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That was his name, right?

vast mural
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Yes

ashen pelican
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Triple crown was only won due to events in le mans making endurance shit in those times

hazy mantle
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Ken almost got triple but ford executives…

vast mural
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He's the honorary winner of 1966

ashen pelican
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Also le mans is so easy to win honestly

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4 categories

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To chose from

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LMGTE Am can get you an easy win

vast mural
hazy mantle
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He set the lap record like 3 times right?

vast mural
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Yeah

hazy mantle
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In one race

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All that needs to be said

vast mural
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He didn't do much outside Le Mans though

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So as much as I love the guy, he's not that high up

ashen pelican
hazy mantle
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Yeah

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He got the endurance triple crown

vast mural
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I should clarify I mean Endurance

ashen pelican
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Also in that era

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There was only two drivers in endurance

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In 24 hour races

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Now there's 4

hazy mantle
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Displaced Ferraris rule on their home turf (not Italy home but Europe home)

ashen pelican
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Also if Lewis, seb, lauda is on the list he should too

vast mural
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Top 20 (Or more) Best DRIVERS of all time (Not just F1)

hazy mantle
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Yeah

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But I thought Mario only had a good Indy and mediocre F1 career, or am I missing a lot?

vast mural
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He was an F1 World Champion after all

hazy mantle
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He was

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Did I get it backwards

ashen pelican
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Mario is crazy inside the head. But I respect that

vast mural
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He could have done the job in 1977 as well but two DNFs (among other things) cost him the title to Niki Lauda

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He won the most races that year

hazy mantle
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And lauda would have won against hunt but 1 DNF cost him

vast mural
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Also, Andretti's racing career lasted thirty years

hazy mantle
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Im sorry

vast mural
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That's insane however you look at it

hazy mantle
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30

ashen pelican
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Also mario is secretly aiming at a triple crown

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A team triple crown

vast mural
ashen pelican
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Andretti has won the indy500 no?

vast mural
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Yes

ashen pelican
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So if he started racing 1992 he would have just retired?

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Andretti autosport

hazy mantle
ashen pelican
vast mural
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I’d imagine the Toyota ts050 doesn’t do Alonso favors to some

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Nah Alonso got done dirty

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2012 remember?

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Title contender in a shitbox

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Won le mans at age 39

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Which is old for endurance

hazy mantle
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Who came second in 09?

vast mural
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Vettel

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Button won that year

hazy mantle
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So vettel could be 5x if brawn didn’t want to spend 1£

ashen pelican
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He could be 7x if you count that and the Ferrari title challenge in 2017 and 2018

vast mural
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Ferrari let him down

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And he made a special appearance in 2008

ashen pelican
dusk edge
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That is true

ashen pelican
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Wasn't he up against a powerful Audi lmp1

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hazy mantle
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Due to dieselgate

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Oh dam

vast mural
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Andre Lotterer deserves a top 50 shout

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Lmp1 never has competition anyways

vast mural
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He won Le Mans in a very harsh situation

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Even now

hazy mantle
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What is it with Alonso and gates

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Crashgate

ashen pelican
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Toyota has won every race except Sebring 1000 miles this year since Audi left

vast mural
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Defending the last 2 or 3 hours from 3 Peugeots, much faster than him

hazy mantle
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Spygate

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Dieselgate

ashen pelican
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Alonso loves gates

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ashen pelican
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I've heard his house is sorrounded by a fence connected to a gate

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And GTEs the rest of wec

hazy mantle
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Prema doing good in WEC

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So Alonso ranks maybe... 14th or 15th?

ashen pelican
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And ELMS

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They won 4 hours of imola

dusk edge
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Coming back to top level prototype racing in 2023

ashen pelican
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Yeah it's gonna be hard for them and AF Corsa

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Different cars, needing to hire new engineers, new everything

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It's hard switching from GTEs to the most powerful car in Motorsport

vast mural
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Jacques Villeneuve is a very difficult case

hazy mantle
ashen pelican
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He had one good IndyCar season and a couple F1 seasons

vast mural
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He's won in lots of places but how good was he really?

hazy mantle
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Not good

ashen pelican
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And his NASCAR career wasn't the best

vast mural
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That said, he went out and won stuff

ashen pelican
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Anyways I'm going to bed rn, night kiddos

hazy mantle
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I just hope mick gets 3x wdc

vast mural
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More than what could be said for someone like Alesi (as much as I like him)

vast mural
hazy mantle
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Now... Scott Dixon

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A 6-time IndyCar champion but he hasn't done much else

hazy mantle
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When did he race

vast mural
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He's been racing since the early 2000s

hazy mantle
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Ok

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6x Indy Is probably more impressive than 6x F1 due to spec series

vast mural
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But at the same time, F1 is still the premier of all motorsports

hazy mantle
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Yeah

vast mural
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The fastest machines around a track in the world

hazy mantle
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Think he’s a Rolex 24 winner

vast mural
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True

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I'd say one F1 championship win is worth 2 IndyCar championship wins

hazy mantle
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I’d say depends

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Like 2020 or 2004 championship isn’t as impressive as a 2021 championship

vast mural
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Fair point

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How would Dixon compare against someone like Daniel Ricciardo, a several-time F1 race winner?

hazy mantle
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DR is a hard one

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He has the merit to win a championship

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But hasn’t had the car

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Or has been let down

vast mural
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Sebastiens Loeb and Ogier

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Where do they fit in all this?

hazy mantle
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Haven’t heard them

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Where’s fangio tho

vast mural
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Ehh, top 30 probably

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How about Kamui Kobayashi?

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He displayed great skill in F1 but he went to Toyota and then Sauber so we never got the best of him

hazy mantle
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I don’t know

vast mural
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Let's figure this out later

dusk edge
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His longevity, consistent performance, Daytona 24 hour win

vast mural
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Yeah, he’s top 20

dusk edge
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Being one of his sport’s goats

vast mural
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No, top 10

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Directly ahead of Vettel

vast mural
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Or why was Alonso not in the top 10

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Carlos sainz sr could make the top 20

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The goat of rally

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Still racing today

vast mural
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Wrc is tough

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vast mural
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Yeah

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How young was he when he raced group c?

vast mural
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He’s done F1 and Le Mans (Group C), pushing him ahead of Hamilton

vast mural
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If Schumacher won lemans however we wouldn’t have the legend that is the 787b

lyric orbit
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where the hell is dale earnhardt

vast mural
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Uh

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Good question

surreal crag
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Colin McRae

pearl dock
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What’s wrong?

pearl dock
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me no hablo ingles

vast mural
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@feral snow In here

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gaminge

woven lichen
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probably that one Taxi Driver is the best

orchid mirage
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Wheres fangio

vast mural
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I just don't think he was as fast as his records suggest

sour orbit
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  1. Tom Kristensen
  2. Sebastien Loeb
  3. Giacomo Agostini
  4. Sebastian Ogier
  5. Richard Petty
  6. Valentino Rossi
  7. Jamie Whincup
  8. Dale Earnhardt
  9. Lewis Hamilton
  10. A. J. Foyt
  11. Michael Schumacher
  12. Jimmie Johnson
  13. Jacky Ickx
  14. Scott Dixon
  15. Jonathan Rea
  16. Marc Marquez
  17. Mario Andretti
  18. Satoshi Motoyama
  19. Derek Bell
  20. Mick Doohan
vast mural
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Kristensen tops the list

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Interesting

vast mural
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I gotta update mine

pearl dock
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  1. Tom Kristensen
  2. Stephane Peterhansel
  3. Giacomo Agostini
  4. Sebastien Loeb
  5. Jim Clark
  6. Richard Petty
  7. Valentino Rossi
  8. Sebastian Ogier
  9. Lewis Hamilton
  10. Michael Schumacher
  11. Fernando Alonso
  12. Graham Hill
  13. Jacky Ickx
  14. Allan McNish
  15. Richard Lietz
  16. Kamui Kobayashi
  17. Alessandro Pier Guidi
  18. Kévin Estre
  19. James Calado
  20. Jan Magnussen
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This wasn't easy

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And a bit questionable perhaps

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My brain broke halfway through

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