like total debt
#current events
sharp flare
to all sources
idk bro u can't really get exact news nowadays tho
2 sources give 5 different estimates for same thing most of the times
sharp flare
ah okies
kindred ingot
everyone struggling with debt
quaint belfry
there is more debt than money in the whole world
primal hull
This song was written to honor the dead soldiers who risked their lives for their country. It is also used in other armies.
candid laurel
archived
pastel mural
How the great thread has fallen
kindred ingot
cuz nothing of notice be goin on
rigid garden
cuz nothing of notice be goin on
Yeah I wish
candid laurel
Reposted by walter lekh, ground reporter iirc for kyiv independent
Twitter
Russian T-72B3 was captured by Ukrainian forces after it threw a track, possibly from a mine.
elfin tide
Do we just discuss the Russian invasion of Ukraine here or has it broadened to other topics
candid laurel
This was created to discuss the invasion of ukraine
elfin tide
Cool thanks
candid laurel
How the great thread has fallen
Yeah
candid laurel
:v
kindred ingot
Ukraine front boutta collapse
candid laurel
Ukraine front boutta collapse
theyre gonna keep throwing men till it sticks
classin russia
kindred ingot
its gonna work aswell
candid laurel
Pretty much
candid laurel
Oh
Really is working
Or the conscripts are thinning out and more experienced soldiers are entering
primal hull
me when
echo ivy
queen sleet
https://www.advocate.com/news/2022/5/27/texas-trans-girl-attacked-after-false-uv...
Iāve seen shit like this. what the hell is wrong with people
candid laurel
The #Poland's website Defense 24 reports that #Slovakia's defense minister Jaroslav NaÄ confirms the transfer of eight 155mm self-propelled howitzers Zuzana 2 to #Ukraine.
Russian State Duma deputy Oleg Morozov fantasizes about kidnapping foreign government officials when they're heading to Kyiv to meet up with Volodymyr Zelensky. Morozov thinks it's not far-fetched and might start happening very soon.
on0
New US ambassador in Kyiv isnāt wasting any time making the rounds. Here she is in front of the destroyed @AntonovCompany
Mriya plane.
spiral rover
wooden raven
vagrant solar
š„³
agile scroll
it's over?
vagrant solar
Verdict just happened yeah
kindred ingot
W
solar igloo
Depp won on all of Heard's statements, Heard won on one of the three statements in the counter claim
broken summit
Truth prevails
drifting peak
Everyone likes that
echo ivy
The jury clarified which statement prompted Depp's lawsuit
Shortly after Tuesday's lunch break, the jury sent Azcarate a question seeking a clarification: Does Depp's contention that Heard made a defamatory statement apply to Heard's newspaper article in its entirety or only to its headline?
"The statement is the headline, not the entire op-ed," Azcarate wrote in reply after conferring with both sides' attorneys.
https://www.npr.org/2022/06/01/1102118755/depp-heard-trial-verdict
Only the headline was defamatory. The content of the op-ed was not on trial.
When the content of the op-ed was on trial in the UK it was found to be true.
Depp is not exonerated, this just means they're both cunts and the headline from 2018 was exaggerated.
echo ivy
since I've been holding this in all day I'm going to continue:
what this trial was actually about was "did depp commit sexual violence" or "just regular old violence" and the verdict is the latter.
again, the 2018 op-ed which was titled "I Spoke Up Against Sexual Violence ā And Faced Our Culture's Wrath. That Has To Change." has been found to have been untrue and defamatory.
the content of that op-ed, that depp was physically violent, has already been proven to be true.
this is not a thing to celebrate.
stark lodge
The fans will celebrate their celeb winning regardless of the content of the case
Johnny did not deserve to get cancelled was the whole point of it
Rip pirates franchise
echo ivy
Johnny did not deserve to get cancelled was the whole point of it
he did
again everything in the body of the op-ed was proven true
echo ivy
Rip pirates franchise
no loss, black pearl is the only good one anyway
stark lodge
he did
Ah well I haven't really followed the case or care about it so I don't know
Quite a shitshow between the both of them though
echo ivy
absolutely. they both suck very very much.
my problem with this whole circus is that everyone is walking away with "depp is innocent, heard is a lying bitch"
which is the absolute worst thing that could happen
stark lodge
Oh yeah I realised that as well
One side was/is now accepted to be completely clean
Which I doubt is the case
echo ivy
exactly
kindred ingot
amber heard is a lier though lmao
she is truly a horrible person
but i agree that it was a toxic relationship and depp is not completely innocent
kindred ingot
But he is way more innocent than bed shitter amber
and there isnt any credible evidence that hes even an abuser
only thing proven by amber is that he is a drug addict and sleeps in weird positions
amber heard is a liar and an abuser
It is a huge win for male domestic violence survivors
and definately something to celebrate.
echo ivy
You missed my point entirely. Depp is still an abusive cunt, he is not exonerated in any way, he was still credibly confirmed of having been an abuser himaelf, and he lost the UK libel case.
This is not a win for male domestic violence survivors, this is only a win for Johnny Depp's bank account.
https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/uk-court-rules-johnny-depp-libel-action-73966933
All this trial did was confirm that Depp did "just regular old violence" and not " sexual violence"
kindred ingot
If you watched the evidence provided and the case as a whole you would think otherwise
echo ivy
You are right now doing the thing that is the worst outcome of this circus
kindred ingot
what evidence did heard have that he did abuse her that holds any ground at all?
Edited photos?
he sleeps? uses drugs?
echo ivy
That was not on trial this time
He lost in the UK
Where the law was on his side
It is very difficult to win a libel trial in the UK
But heard did
They both suck but please do not lionize Depp as a good figure out of this
He still does not deserve his career back
All that extra stuff you saw in the trial. That was the circus. The only thing the jury ended up deliberating was whether the headline was defamatory
kindred ingot
āAll that extra stuffā showed how he was abused by amber heard and how she maliciously wrote the article to ruin johnny depps career
the whole point of the trial is not about some headline, it is about johnny depp clearing his name
to the public
he doesnt give a shit about the money, 10 million is nothing to him
echo ivy
This was entirely about the money. You're talking about a man who used to spend millions of dollars a year on just wine alone. When he lost his acting gigs he pretty much became broke.
He hasn't cleared his name. He still lost the libel case in the UK.
kindred ingot
You think johnny depp cares about 10 million? Bro whipes his ass with 10 million
echo ivy
Lmao you don't even know him
Why are you simping for him like that
I hate them both very much
Depp however is still a very big cunt and does not deserve his career back
She doesn't either for that matter
Because she showed herself to be a bad actor lol
But she was still proven right about calling him an abuser
kindred ingot
why doesnt johnny depp deserve his career back, this trial has shown not by verdict perhaps but by the evidence provided throughout the trial that amber heard was the real abuser and johnny depp the abused
worn pendant
but Sara proved that jonny depp physically hurt her?
do you think someone who hits their partner deserves to have their career back?
both of them donāt deserve to have their career back full stop
echo ivy
Exactly. And this was entirely a trial by media. That's exactly why he wanted this done in the US despite having lost in the UK. Because in the US you can make this a huge media circus and make the public think one thing when the actual verdict is about something else.
stark lodge
Hating someone should be backed by a personal understanding as well
echo ivy
None of what happened in this US trial clears Depp's name to a point that we can suddenly welcome him back with open arms. He is not a hero for male domestic violence. His only motive was to win in the public opinion sphere and get some money.
That's the most harmful thing about this. That I keep seeing people call him a hero for male domestic violence victims. That was never what this trial was about.
stark lodge
I personally think cancelling them for personal issues is too much.
Sure Depp may have had his wrongs, but it's not like the abuse was one way. The evidence has clearly shown Amber was a domestic abuser as well.
stark lodge
But why? It's their personal life
echo ivy
You don't think domestic violence is serious?
stark lodge
I think it's extremely serious. But in this case it was done by the both of them.
echo ivy
Therefore let them go back to their lives and careers no problems?
stark lodge
It was a abusive relationship
Yeah would you want to cancel everyone who gets divorced
echo ivy
That's not comparable at all
stark lodge
It is
worn pendant
But why? It's their personal life
eh they made it extremely public
echo ivy
That too
echo ivy
And she was proven to have been telling the truth
In the UK trial
When the judge there weighted out the claims
But because Heard is a bad witness on a stand and a terrible actress the way she presented herself looked bad on camera
Hence trial by media
I repeat: fuck them both very much and they should not get their careers back
stark lodge
Nah I don't support the whole career thing
They should be dealt with according to law
Which is already done
Amber made herself to be a witch in the public eye so her cancelling can't be reversed I guess
echo ivy
You're again missing the point of the trial tho. This was never about accountability for having committed the violence against each other
stark lodge
I understand perfectly, it was a defamation trial.
echo ivy
Why should they go back to getting paid millions for acting?
How are you telling me that you take domestic violence seriously and then saying just overlook all of that
stark lodge
No? Who is suggesting you overlook it
kindred ingot
What evidence is there that johnny did commit domestic violence, there sure is plenty that amber heard did
stark lodge
But it's a law thing and should be dealt with law
echo ivy
What evidence is there that johnny did commit domestic violence, there sure is p...
That thing I linked to you, the one that talks about Depp losing
echo ivy
But it's a law thing and should be dealt with law
I think I understand what you mean in one sense. But I think where we're disconnecting is that companies can and do choose who to hire based on a moral code.
When I say they shouldn't have their careers back I'm not saying in a legal sense
stark lodge
Ah that makes sense
echo ivy
I agree with you that legally they are entitled to go back to their jobs
stark lodge
Yep! Honestly, them getting cancelled is dependent on the audience looking at it that way
Though I reckon Amber is going to have it much worse
echo ivy
I think you're right
She really didn't come across looking good
We already talked and agreed about this last night, but I worry that this is now going to paint Depp as innocent in people's eyes
stark lodge
And her lawyers were a joke
echo ivy
Truly
kindred ingot
in the uk the judge believed heards lies and dismissed a lot of evidence bc it didnt directly mention depp
when she testified in the US we could all see that she lies about what happens
strange and unnecessary details
embellishing
evidence is meh
editing photos
stark lodge
Truly
Though I understand you believe such bastards should not have the money or influence that they command, I agree.
kindred ingot
In the US where free speech laws are way stronger than in the UK, so it makes it even worse for amber that she lost
and the uk trial was only before one judge
echo ivy
It's kind of sort of like an inverse OJ Simpson situation in that OJ was found not guilty but in the public eye there was "no doubt" that he was guilty. This is ignoring the fact that it was a very different type of trial (criminal vs civil).
In this trial the jury was split. The jury actually found that Heard was defamed as well. This was by no means a unanimous victory for Depp. However in the public eye there is right now "no doubt" that Depp is innocent of all things.
kindred ingot
she is a liar and therefore cant be trusted
echo ivy
Lol just ignore what I say and carry on with your agenda I suppose
kindred ingot
ok then
echo ivy
But if that were true, then the jury would not have trusted her even a little bit. Turns out they did tho.
kindred ingot
she "won" on the statement in the daily mail, where the headline states roughly that heard and her friends coordinated and set up johnny depp, spilling wine themselves and then calling 911
she lost on the other ones in her counter suit
while johnny won all his claims in his suit
echo ivy
The jury's verdict was split. The jurors found Heard was defamed by an attorney for Depp who claimed the actress created a "hoax" by making their home disheveled when police arrived.
echo ivy
while johnny won all his claims in his suit
Literally the only claim in the legal suit was that the headline claiming sexual violence was defamatory.
Like I said you've ignored everything I've said and have just been on this one track defense of the man. And that's fine. But let's just admit that's what we're doing.
candid laurel
https://twitter.com/stevenbeynon/status/1532429021308506112?s=21
Fucking tech support in a middle of the warzone
Twitter
drifting peak
lavish flare
https://twitter.com/stevenbeynon/status/1532429021308506112?s=21
Fucking tech s...
Lmfao
candid laurel
broken summit
Oh my god Carl bot not now
chilly sun
was this title not made by the washington post
Apparently she didn't even write the op-ed herself. The ACLU ghost-wrote it for her
echo ivy
was this title not made by the washington post
Yes it was. I've written an op-ed before and the publication came up with the title by themselves.
echo ivy
Apparently she didn't even write the op-ed herself. The ACLU ghost-wrote it for ...
Would that be a bad thing? You mean like she shouldn't even have been held responsible for it?
chilly sun
Oh no, I definitely think that she should be held responsible. It's just that as this post-verdict situation develops even further, the facts are becoming increasingly blurred
echo ivy
I'm of the opinion that there's nothing to have been held accountable for. The idea that depp was never once even a little bit abusive, sexual or otherwise, is not credible. He already lost a libel trial over this in the UK. Both parties should have lost the US trial. It will still go to appeals, and it should be tossed out.
bronze summit
@candid laurel lmao
bronze summit
But got 2 million from the countersuit
idk its the website fault not me xD
candid laurel
<@569731590901596160> lmao
bronze summit
stable nacelle
So if she payed 5 million in punitive
wasn't it 15?
lavish flare
wasn't it 15?
no
while Mr.Depp did get 15 million dollars total
Heardās punishment was to pay 5 million dollars
stable nacelle
oh
lavish flare
https://youtu.be/2OQu9q70YkE
the lord and saviour of law youtubers explains it in this video
bronze summit
agile scroll
https://youtu.be/2OQu9q70YkE
the lord and saviour of law youtubers explains it i...
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lavish flare
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I mainly got into his videos because he's hot
compact flower
botox
spring coral
e
barren anchor
e
high shoal
oh there it is
spring coral
and I know they are corrupt
quaint wren
Damn it, all the Arabian flags look the same
high shoal
neither do i
high shoal
Damn it, all the Arabian flags look the same
hahaha hows that
quaint wren
I think there are some hilarious CountryBall jokes about it
high shoal
nah
spring coral
but my point earlier with saying it isnāt impressive to be a millionaire anymore, especially in the US is true
quaint wren
nah
Jordan, Kuwait, Palestine and a couple others which arenāt coming to mind have a similar color scheme and pattern
high shoal
but my point earlier with saying it isnāt impressive to be a millionaire anymore...
why's that
spring coral
most upper-middle class adult households are millionaire families or have a millionaire member
barren anchor
being a millionaire isn't even enough to retire
high shoal
Jordan, Kuwait, Palestine and a couple others which arenāt coming to mind have a...
yea some of em but not all
quaint wren
EVERYTHING IS EXPENSIVE
spring coral
why's that
one in every 20 people in the US is a millionaire now
high shoal
being a millionaire isn't even enough to retire
indeed
high shoal
one in every 20 people in the US is a millionaire now
really?
spring coral
now it depends on what level of millionaire you are
quaint wren
Wait
spring coral
if your net worth is $1-$5m then youāre doing well but youāre not that rich
high shoal
holy m8
spring coral
is that a real stat?
yes itās true
quaint wren
Thereās a difference between people who make a million dollars over their lifetime, and people who have a million dollars to spend right this second
potent cloud
one in every 20 people in the US is a millionaire now
wow , how?
high shoal
its true
spring coral
wow , how?
net worth and assets
quaint wren
@cerulean spade Join us, my friend
barren anchor
Isn't America literally sliding into poverty rn
spring coral
no
cerulean spade
hi
spring coral
we have a recession every decade, this is nothing new
fleet kelp
Like I was saying about the stocks they tried passing a bill so that big oil companies would stop raising prices of gas since statistically there is no reason to raise it other than to increase profit margins but half the senators said no
potent cloud
if your net worth is $1-$5m then youāre doing well but youāre not that rich
if you're a millionaire you are rich. If you have 300k in the bank you are rich too, but not super wealthy
quaint wren
Money is an arbitrary thing, I think
spring coral
if you're a millionaire you are rich. If you have 300k in the bank you are rich ...
i donāt think you understand how net worth works
quaint wren
It means whatever we want it to mean
barren anchor
Everything is arbitrary
cerulean spade
if your net worth is $1-$5m then youāre doing well but youāre not that rich
are you ok?
barren anchor
All societal constructs are
strange panther
one in every 20 people in the US is a millionaire now
source?
high shoal
but america is defo a 3rd world country with a costume of a 1st world country. do you agree?
spring coral
but america is defo a 3rd world country with a costume of a 1st world country. d...
no, I donāt
potent cloud
i donāt think you understand how net worth works
im not talking about net worth. Im talking about the actual money you have
quaint wren
It means whatever we want it to mean
If we all agree on what should change, there are no consequences to changing it
high shoal
no, I donāt
why
quaint wren
but america is defo a 3rd world country with a costume of a 1st world country. d...
Unfortunately yes
spring coral
im not talking about net worth. Im talking about the actual money you have
ok millionaire is measured in net worth
grim obsidian
Guys can I say something a bit sensitive
quaint wren
Sure, go ahead
spring coral
in terms of actual money, having $300k liquid is a lot more than most millionaires have
potent cloud
Elon Musk is the richest man based on his net worth but if all his Tesla shares drop he's not anymore. Net worth doesnt mean anything tbh
quaint wren
Elon Musk is the richest man based on his net worth but if all his Tesla shares ...
EXACTLY
potent cloud
Guys can I say something a bit sensitive
depends
high shoal
Elon Musk is the richest man based on his net worth but if all his Tesla shares ...
makes sense
barren anchor
Tesla is a bubble that will inevitably burst
Ford is already producing more EVs than Tesla
quaint wren
Everything means what we want it to mean
high shoal
Everything means what we want it to mean
damn straight
fleet kelp
Tesla is a bubble that will inevitably burst
Fact
potent cloud
Everything means what we want it to mean
well said, Gandhi
quaint wren
So if we decide suddenly that say, Netflix is worth jackshit, the company will collapse almost instantly
cerulean spade
well said, Gandhi
bruh
quaint wren
But the catch is that we have to agree on that
Which, in this world, is near impossible
barren anchor
But the catch is that we have to agree on that
"We" is too broad
grim obsidian
I come by Palestinian origin and I come from a town called Khalil, today it got raided, and they shot up some teens like how they killed that press person shreen, w snipers, and they raided my cousins dads bank, they stole all the gold from him and the money which is all totaled to be around 500k
potent cloud
Ford is already producing more EVs than Tesla
exactly. I respect Tesla for being the accelerator for pushing EV but the legacy car manufactorers are catching up
quaint wren
I come by Palestinian origin and I come from a town called Khalil, today it got ...
āWeā meaning the able voter base of the US
Or any country
spring coral
I come by Palestinian origin and I come from a town called Khalil, today it got ...
wtf
cerulean spade
rip
quaint wren
I come by Palestinian origin and I come from a town called Khalil, today it got ...
Thatās messed up bro
spring coral
do you know who raided it?
high shoal
I come by Palestinian origin and I come from a town called Khalil, today it got ...
holy mate, are you alright? did you got hurt?
quaint wren
I hope you and your family are ok
barren anchor
exactly. I respect Tesla for being the accelerator for pushing EV but the legacy...
They were the catalyst but it won't be forever
spring coral
israel?
spring coral
I hope youāre ok man
fleet kelp
the cyber truck is never going to release
That and their sports car was delayed twice
grim obsidian
My cousins story today
high shoal
israel people
grim obsidian
Iām good but like bro, they do shit the media says nothing about it
spring coral
I have a lot of Palestinian friends and I feel for you guys
strange panther
Iām good but like bro, they do shit the media says nothing about it
praying for your family manā„ļø
fleet kelp
My cousins story today
Oof
grim obsidian
My cousins story today
My cousins story today, those are isreali trucks w soldiers down town raiding places
spring coral
Iām muslim as well so I continue to pray for all Palestinians
potent cloud
I come by Palestinian origin and I come from a town called Khalil, today it got ...
for real? why did they take his money?
spring coral
for real? why did they take his money?
israel takes everything when they raid a city
grim obsidian
for real? why did they take his money?
Idk bro those Israelās love stealing everything
fleet kelp
It's sick what Israel is doing
spring coral
they destroy crops, towns, food, everything
quaint wren
Iām Hindu so I have no dog in this fight, I just hope everyone gets along and finds peace in some way
grim obsidian
Also they raided a hospital recently
spring coral
and people act like itās not happening
grim obsidian
- killed bunch of innocent teens and moms
potent cloud
i still dont understand how they can get away with this
cerulean spade
fr
spring coral
i still dont understand how they can get away with this
israel indirectly runs the world
grim obsidian
i still dont understand how they can get away with this
I have no idea as welll
spring coral
nobody is going to stop them
quaint wren
i still dont understand how they can get away with this
The problem with Israel is that everyone hates them for existing, but they have a lot of money and a lot of friends
quaint wren
If they can beat Palestine, Iraq, Jordan and Egypt in a fair fight, which they have (6 day war), thereās nothing anyone can or should do to try and eradicate them
cerulean spade
If they can beat Palestine, Iraq, Jordan and Egypt in a fair fight, which they h...
not a fair fight
when american is helping
grim obsidian
I should not say this but every time I tried entering Palestine the soldiers strip searched you.
quaint wren
Well, I get what youāre saying
grim obsidian
I should not say this but every time I tried entering Palestine the soldiers str...
Cuz you are āthreatā
potent cloud
other way around
true. The US funds part of Israel's military. They even supply weapons and ammo at no cost lol
barren anchor
It's not like Israel just suddenly decided to become the "bad guys"
spring coral
I should not say this but every time I tried entering Palestine the soldiers str...
Iām sorry man
quaint wren
They were out there for various reasons
I disagree with the British motives for doing so
spring coral
It's not like Israel just suddenly decided to become the "bad guys"
Israel has been the ābad guysā for hundreds of years, only in recent history have they become more prominent
grim obsidian
It was always a dream to enter the Al aqsa mosque but I got Denied every time
barren anchor
Ignoring geopolitical, historical and political developments of the last decades and centuries leads to a one sided view of current events
grim obsidian
Also imagine being Christian and also getting fucked
potent cloud
Israel uses the holocaust as an excuse to get away with everything they're doing to the Palestinians
grim obsidian
They donāt allow you to freely go to your churches
spring coral
Ignoring geopolitical, historical and political developments of the last decades...
Exactly
high shoal
Iām good but like bro, they do shit the media says nothing about it
bro ik ik, fucking media does not care about you if you live in middle east, If you remember the lebanese big port explostion on the 4th of august 2020, All of the media were somehow careless m8, i nearly lost my family that day and it sucks, media cares only about US mass shootings and Australia Fires and shit.
barren anchor
Which is how we have people unanimously taking sides in complex conflicts
quaint wren
Israel has been the ābad guysā for hundreds of years, only in recent history hav...
I mean, in European history the exact opposite is true
Hatred of Jews didnāt start with the Holocaust, it started with the rise of Christianity
spring coral
bro ik ik, fucking media does not care about you if you live in middle east, If ...
Itās such a shame
grim obsidian
bro ik ik, fucking media does not care about you if you live in middle east, If ...
Thank god your family is okay ā¤ļø
spring coral
people only care about whatās being pushed to them on twitter currently
and then they forget about it
quaint wren
Itās said that Judgement Day will begin with God striking the Holy Land, which is Israel/Palestine/Lebanon and others, where the Jews settled, which is why Christians hate Jews historically speaking
grim obsidian
Guys do you know the tear gas gernades?
grim obsidian
Guys do you know the tear gas gernades?
I probably had 5 close to me
quaint wren
So the persecution of Jewish people didnāt begin or end with Hitler, it began as soon as 1000 years ago when the major European kingdoms became Christian
high shoal
I mean when ukraine got hit by russia, everyone started to change their bios and flags and shit, but why they did not do the same for palestine and other middle eastern countries? Media Coverage is fucked
cerulean spade
I mean when ukraine got hit by russia, everyone started to change their bios and...
fr
spring coral
I probably had 5 close to me
are you in palestine
potent cloud
bro ik ik, fucking media does not care about you if you live in middle east, If ...
the Dutch media covered it for quite some time. They even looked back at it a year later to see if anything has improved. Here in the Netherlands there are more than 200 nationalities
spring coral
So the persecution of Jewish people didnāt begin or end with Hitler, it began as...
Jews have been persecuted through almost all of human history
quaint wren
Otherwise, the Ummayyads and Almohads and other North African Muslims actually tolerated Christians and Jews in their borders
high shoal
the Dutch media covered it for quite some time. They even looked back at it a ye...
yea i remember that
but still
grim obsidian
are you in palestine
I visit it every year
high shoal
you get the idea
grim obsidian
Oh guys I forgot to tell you
quaint wren
Jews and Muslims have traditionally been friends against Christianity
spring coral
Muslims controlled Israel for quite some time, a couple centuries until it was overtaken again by Jews
grim obsidian
Israel denied Palestinians valid or usable vaccineās
grim obsidian
Israel denied Palestinians valid or usable vaccineās
Thatās why my grandpa died
spring coral
Before the Muslims were there they took it from the Spanish and Europeans
quaint wren
But that changed when the British and French (mostly British) wanted to give the Jews a homeland that wasnāt Madagascar (for obvious reasons)
potent cloud
Otherwise, the Ummayyads and Almohads and other North African Muslims actually t...
lots of Jewish people lived in the town where my grandfather and my dad grew up in Northern Morocco. Their Jewish neighbors emigrated to Israel eventually
high shoal
Oh guys I forgot to tell you
I forgot to tell you, this graduation pfp flex is next level š„
high shoal
Israel denied Palestinians valid or usable vaccineās
that is against human rights and nobody gives a damn duck
fuck
grim obsidian
I forgot to tell you, this graduation pfp flex is next level š„
Oh thanks brother; I finally graduated this Saturday
spring coral
Oh thanks brother; I finally graduated this Saturday
Alhumdulilah nice job man
quaint wren
The story of Israel and Palestine ever since 1947 has been a case of āBoth sides are wrongā
grim obsidian
Alhumdulilah nice job man
š
quaint wren
Oh thanks brother; I finally graduated this Saturday
W for that
grim obsidian
W for that
Ty man
quaint wren
Especially in a time like this
potent cloud
you get the idea
yea for sure. Same with the war in Ukraine. European countries suddenly had room for tens of thousands of Ukranian refugees but when the Syrians, Afghanis or Iraqis needed help they closed their borders for them
grim obsidian
Bro listen
high shoal
yea for sure. Same with the war in Ukraine. European countries suddenly had room...
see
quaint wren
yea for sure. Same with the war in Ukraine. European countries suddenly had room...
Itās fear
high shoal
exactly
spring coral
yea for sure. Same with the war in Ukraine. European countries suddenly had room...
nobody cares shout Syrians, Afghanis, and Iraqi refugees and they barely get any media coverage
people donāt even know itās happening
quaint wren
Europeans (and Americans too) are scared of what Arabians and other Muslims are bringing with them
spring coral
also the persecution of muslims in china
grim obsidian
If Jews, and Muslims and Christianās want to live togather in piece I have no issues intact you are my bros in Islam + we can share life and land and everything like any other country but Israelās ego and holocaust excuse is getting them away from reality and they really believe that temple was there
potent cloud
Europeans (and Americans too) are scared of what Arabians and other Muslims are ...
because they are brown
quaint wren
But theyāre also scared that if they donāt help Ukraine, theyāre next
Which to be fair, is valid
But itās a double standard
grim obsidian
We are literally the home of olive oil Lmfao
potent cloud
If Jews, and Muslims and Christianās want to live togather in piece I have no is...
they still looking for the temple?
potent cloud
But itās a double standard
exactly
grim obsidian
they still looking for the temple?
They claim that Al aqsa mosque is built over it which is false
quaint wren
also the persecution of muslims in china
People know about that, but thereās nothing anyone can do really
barren anchor
It's hardly the Jewish people's fault that the British forcibly displaced the Palestinians and then placed their own puppet Governments in power there to build a strong nationalist stronghold to launch military operations out of
high shoal
the bad thing about middle east, is that westerns and europeans think that everything "arab" = bomb which is not. Im half arab and i do not have a gun around my back, I know thousands of people like that too. But all of that is because of the media, they coverage what they want you to see not what is actually happening which is so sad
potent cloud
They claim that Al aqsa mosque is built over it which is false
yea i know, they kept digging underneath it but havent found it lmao
quaint wren
the bad thing about middle east, is that westerns and europeans think that every...
THANK YOU
grim obsidian
yea i know, they kept digging underneath it but havent found it lmao
Idk what they thinking tbh lmfao
quaint wren
Iām Indian-American, born after 2001, I know too much about a target on my back
high shoal
yeah
barren anchor
how are those two things conflated
high shoal
especially 911
barren anchor
911 and the war on terror are what gave rise to rampant Islamophobia
quaint wren
And my dad doesnāt hate Muslims, or anyone for that matter, but heās also scared that he may be confused for one because we look a lot alike and, wellā¦
grim obsidian
how are those two things conflated
Trump basically was like we will ban Muslims from entering etc etc
Btw remember that Jeddah attack?
That was āthe huthisā which we call are extremists
It was run by Iran
Which btw hate Islam
barren anchor
Trump basically was like we will ban Muslims from entering etc etc
Trump was hardline on anti-immigration in general
Even then the headlines were about Mexico
grim obsidian
Operated in Yemen led by Iran
cerulean spade
ofc iran
grim obsidian
Iran just controls Yemen and Saudi is fighting in Yemen to regain control and kick Iran out
grim obsidian
Iran just controls Yemen and Saudi is fighting in Yemen to regain control and ki...
Thatās what the f1 fan base donāt know
high shoal
battery about to die, nice chat and stay safe
barren anchor
The general F1 fanbase doesn't know shit about most things regardless
cerulean spade
bye @high shoal
quaint wren
No one deserves to be prosecuted for what race they are, but at the same time, some things which people think of as āracismā arenāt actually meant to be racist and vice versa
grim obsidian
Shit part is they had guns, bombs, drugs inside schools, hospitals etc
barren anchor
the fact that this is pinned tells me enough
quaint wren
People say that Millenials are the āFuck Aroundā generation and that we, Generation Z, are the āFind Outā generation
quaint wren
I think the problem is that we carry the grudges of our ancestors
The change is supposed to start with us
barren anchor
It'll be decades before leaders from our generation even get close to holding the most powerful positions
quaint wren
It'll be decades before leaders from our generation even get close to holding th...
And by then, weāll be corrupt with our own malice
barren anchor
Even then there is 0 guarantee that they will hold the same beliefs we want them to
Nepotism, Corruption, what have you
quaint wren
Weāll turn out to be the very people we feared becoming as we grew up
Because thatās all this generation knows
barren anchor
And with the world descending further and further into late stage capitalism we'll be in too deep
barren anchor
And democracy is a farce regardless
spring coral
in much older societies you didnāt have governments
barren anchor
Might aswell have a global revolution and establish a global authoritarian state
spring coral
you donāt hear about government when reading about the past
quaint wren
What people realize is that the line between good and bad governments are blurred
spring coral
I personally think there isnāt a such thing as a good government
by definition having a government is oppressive
quaint wren
There are such things as good monarchs and bad presidents or prime ministers
barren anchor
Government is inefficient
quaint wren
Example of a good monarch, King Charles XII of Sweden
barren anchor
Say we have an unquestionably good head of government/state
quaint wren
Even in the face of the Great Northern War, everyone loved and trusted Charles XIIās leadership, which is why it lasted almost 30 years instead of just 3
barren anchor
But he can't pass any good laws because the political parties under him can't agree on shit and are corrupt
barren anchor
And when they do they've been chopped to pieces and are too late to be effective anyway
quaint wren
When Russia, Poland-Lithuania and Denmark declare war to you, and your only allies are in the Black Sea, almost any other nation would have surrendered immediately
grim obsidian
Bro I feel shit sometimes saying Iām from Palestine
quaint wren
So even though he was a king, a title which people say is built to oppress others, everyone loved him
grim obsidian
I donāt even have a passport :((
spring coral
In Ancient Rome you had the emperor, and the people under the emperor were the advisors and various staff, and rome survived for hundreds of years and was one of the strongest societies in history
spring coral
Bro I feel shit sometimes saying Iām from Palestine
nah man donāt
barren anchor
And Rome fell because of corrupt internal power struggles
grim obsidian
I literally canāt use it
quaint wren
Bro I feel shit sometimes saying Iām from Palestine
Hey man, itās where your from, you love your home, donāt worry about what others say
cerulean spade
Bro I feel shit sometimes saying Iām from Palestine
nah bro
barren anchor
They won't understand and they don't really care
spring coral
if youāre talking to Muslims then theyāll understand and care
cerulean spade
I dont tell irl people where i'm from either
where you from
spring coral
all muslims understand each other to a degree
barren anchor
yeah but muslims are "your people"
barren anchor
just like i can tell ukranians, russians, serbians etc where i'm from
but tell an ignorant westerner and they won't understand or care
spring coral
true
quaint wren
The key is to find people who donāt care about that sort of thing I guess
quaint wren
I used to live in Florida, we had neighbors from all over the place
cerulean spade
beautiful
quaint wren
Beautiful
quaint wren
I used to live in Florida, we had neighbors from all over the place
We never failed to regard each other as Hermanos or Amici or something
grim obsidian
I miss it lol
barren anchor
this is our land in russia
quaint wren
But longing for home is something Iāve done ever since I left Florida
cerulean spade
But longing for home is something Iāve done ever since I left Florida
where you from in india?
quaint wren
where you from in india?
My parents both came from Andhra Pradesh
cerulean spade
cool
grim obsidian
this is our land in russia
Loooks callmmmm
quaint wren
@barren anchor Do you still live in Russia now, or have you left-
Ok, new question, where do you live now?
barren anchor
germany
quaint wren
Ah
Germany seems like a wonderful place, but I havenāt been
That said, my girlfriend is Austrian, so maybe I could go sometime
barren anchor
between all the turmoil it really is
quaint wren
Apparently in her town, about half the citizens are some form of exiled or extinct Germans (Prussians, Pommeranians, etc)
barren anchor
i'd like to move to russia one day
when putin is dead
and his cronies in the mud with him
quaint wren
Apparently in her town, about half the citizens are some form of exiled or extin...
Their families are products of Soviet Rape
quaint wren
i'd like to move to russia one day
And Iāll hope you get to return home
barren anchor
I'm blacklisted so unless there's a big political shift I'm practically in "exile"
quaint wren
Sheās a pan-Germanist, very rare in todayās world
Though she doesnāt mean it in a nationalistic sense, she just thinks that the German peoples are stronger together
quaint wren
Everyone could tbf
Thereās a lot of common ground in this world if people would just look a little harder
barren anchor
I wish the Americans unity
So they can put their government against the wall
And make up for the suffering their government caused across the world in the last decades
hell, century even
quaint wren
After World War 2 it was all downhill
kindred ingot
nobody cares shout Syrians, Afghanis, and Iraqi refugees and they barely get any...
Nah shits been in the news the last 6 yrs and the news is whatever gets the clicks runs
Shit even some ukraine war news stop comin up
kindred ingot
yea for sure. Same with the war in Ukraine. European countries suddenly had room...
I wouldnt exactly call taking in a million syrians closing the border
and you cant let everyone in anyways not just cuz some security issues but you need to assimilate the population that arrives, basically you need them to learn the language and become a worker so the state gets their taxes.
you also need the infrastructure and capability to take in such large amounts of people and of course the will to do so by the people or the state which has the last say afterall
kindred ingot
israel indirectly runs the world
What do you mean by this?
vagrant solar
Keep rule 5 in mind guysā¦
rigid garden
What's going on with the capitol hill case
Public testimony
candid laurel
broken summit
W
rigid garden
Imagine having a shell with uwu on it kill you š
At that point I don't think you care what's written on it
rigid garden
||~~theres another shooting?~~ its not a shooting||
Where?
rigid garden
Tyson corner mall
No
candid laurel
No ones injured atleast
candid laurel
Oh
rigid garden
Yes, one shot was fired but it wasn't a shooting
candid laurel
Okok ill edit message sorry for misunderstanding
rigid garden
Ah, yeah, I'm in the nova area
candid laurel
People were calling it a shooting there
rigid garden
Definitely heard about it
Not as bad as the terrorist threat at the mall a few months ago
Isis I think
candid laurel
https://twitter.com/pravda_eng/status/1538325698288443392?s=20&t=mHBpYvLK-1Pi_POcQCHrxA
And the fight for sieverodonetsk continues
Anyways look, dog
candid laurel
https://twitter.com/KyivIndependent/status/1538343773406650369?s=20&t=xJ6cqhRpFl...
rigid garden
MY HOME MALL
It's fine
broken summit
Yeah Iām glad everythingās mostly good
rigid garden
Yeah Iām glad everythingās mostly good
No one was shot, multiple shots were fired
rigid garden
MY HOME MALL
Yeah, some people I know were there at the time
lavish flare
How's Ethiopia doing
quaint wren
https://twitter.com/markets/status/1538860426636713984/ those sanctions absolutely doing their job............. not
rigid garden
Ah yes, very well done fellows, really made them suffer
candid laurel
š
lavish idol
My evening be like.
Im living in the country, but we can hear it sometimes at evenings
Thats scary
candid laurel
candid laurel
Ukraine is retreating from sieverodonestk
kindred ingot
lost cause
primal hull
candid laurel
why did this happen anyway
primal hull
I am a centrist. But I blame Trum0
candid laurel
had someone tell me ts because of trump appointed sc judges?
candid laurel
the fact this even happened is absurd
broken summit
Man Iām so glad I live in Maryland right now.a state thatās not buttfuck insane
kindred ingot
this why Norway clears america
rich arch
this why Norway clears america
this is why EVERY country clears america
rigid garden
this is why *EVERY* country clears america
Not to be an ass, but there are many, many countries doing much worse than the US
rich arch
Not to be an ass, but there are many, many countries doing much worse than the U...
youre not wrong tbf
but you get my point
America is stuck in 60 years ago
rigid garden
And the past administration putting in 3 of the current judges
neat lava
The fact that the President can be elected with a minority of votes and this appoint any judge they like that doesn't really scream democracy to me.
But hey, what do I know, I'm european after all
kindred ingot
some guy just shot people outside a gay bar in Oslo, what a world
vagrant solar
What?! Like, now, tonight?
vagrant solar
Oh ffs
kindred ingot
Two confirmed dead just now..
strange panther
And people say we donāt need pride.. Iām attending the pride parade tomorrow as well, this makes me second guessing if I actually want to, what a fucked up world
kindred ingot
its a terror attack to make people scared to be who they are thats why we needa prove them wrong
strange panther
Yeah, Iām definitely still attending, itās just a bit uncomfortable hearing about this
kindred ingot
ofc ofc
candid laurel
this is a more accurate source than "certain" or "likely" https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1540443426164215808
broken summit
Not a single state touching the altlantic or pacific
quaint wren
abortion
candid laurel
Aparrently one of the sc judges, specifically clarence thomas, wants the other cases like roe v wade "re examined"
What is happening
to confirm reliability:
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/24/clarence-thomas-roe-gay-marriage-contraception-lgbtq
"In future cases, we should reconsider all of this courtās substantive due process precedents, including Griswold, Lawrence, and Obergefell,ā Thomas wrote in his concurring opinion to the ruling on Roe.
Oh god
kindred ingot
The terrorist was a 42 year old from with Iranian descent named Zaniar Matapour
He got taken down by civilians, stopping him in the act, probably saving many more lives than the two we lost
candid laurel
He got taken down by civilians, stopping him in the act, probably saving many mo...
Thats the shooting of the bar right
kindred ingot
Yes
kindred ingot
Do his origins matter really
I reckon its relevant info where the terrorist is from and which surroundings he was radicalized in
vagrant solar
Not sure it would if it was a white person or if anyone would even talk about radicalisation though
kindred ingot
uh yes? Last year when a white guy went around shooting and stabbing people it came out almost immediately that he was white and questions if he was radicalized
same happend at 22. july attack
and mosque attack
it isnt some alienation thing
vagrant solar
I donāt remember it that way but sure
kindred ingot
atleast in my country where it actually happend every news outlet was saying exactly that
neat lava
Markass i always knew i loved you
"Markass Brownie"
I assume that is about the supreme court decision
right?
stark lodge
Smart but not feasible, age limits will create the same problems that they solve.
young patrol
compact flower
bruh
candid laurel
Moron really tried shilling for nfts
agile scroll
Just use protection
It's not so hard
Be smart
I think abortion should only be legal in case of rape and if protection breaks
candid laurel
I think abortion should only be legal in case of rape and if protection breaks
Honestly abortion sould still be around if the mothers life is in danger, also if the mother was raped yeah, and if the baby basically died inside
This situation really made me think if i should still be a christian
vagrant solar
I mean Iām not sure what other cases youāre talking about tbh itās not like people willingly go and have abortions for fun guys
Also I donāt see why anyone still thinks this should be regulated at all, if you donāt agree with abortions go and have a vasectomy yourself or donāt have sex that way you will be doing your part and wonāt be responsible for any of them š¤·āāļø
chilly sun
I donāt have a uterus or baby-making capabilities therefore my opinion on abortion doesnāt matter
Should be the same for every other male out there
kindred ingot
This situation really made me think if i should still be a christian
Trust God
jagged basin
I donāt have a uterus or baby-making capabilities therefore my opinion on aborti...
+1
Itās not up to us, weāre not the ones affected
neat lava
Meanwhile, Germany repealed the law which makes "advertising abortions" illegal. America is evolving backwards.
neat lava
To clarify: This law basically didn't allow for doctors to even talk about abortions
queen sleet
I mean Iām not sure what other cases youāre talking about tbh itās not like peop...
took the words right out of my mouth
echo ivy
@vernal shadow oi in what way is Andrew Tate a modern day Stalin? What does that even mean?
vernal shadow
<@265569521404739584> oi in what way is Andrew Tate a modern day Stalin? What do...
i legit saw him compared women and food
and uses double standards all the time
echo ivy
Huh? What does that have to do with Stalin?
Don't get me wrong I'm not defending Stalin, I'm saying you're making a stupid comparison
vernal shadow
maybe stalin was the wrong comparison
echo ivy
I understand but it's like saying "xyz is the modern day Hitler"
It becomes meaningless very quick
Just cause one historical figure was awful doesn't mean they are now the standard to which all awfulness of all kind should be compared
Calling someone a modern day Stalin would work if the person was a tankie stalinist who did advocate for an authoritarian USSR type system
That's what I thought you were saying
Andre Tate is trash, like you said, for dehumanizing women and acting upon that fucked up mentality
vernal shadow
on the scale of fucked up men stalin is waaaay worse than tate
cause he killed millions including his own
etc
i just needed a bad person to compare tate
im not tryna defend tate or stalin
echo ivy
Oh I know you're not
The reason I took issue with it is because conflating right-wing-adjacent ideologies (like MRA inceldom, etc) to left wing bad guys is often a tactic to paint all of the left in a negative light
I understand that's not what you were going for
And that's why I wanted to know what you meant
I would say just call him an incel rather than going for a Stalin comparison
And for nuance, I'm not suggesting there are no left wing incels; there are. But, by and large, inceldom is well steeped in right wing thought.