#was the 2021 abu dhabi grand prix fair?

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true bay
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how are we seriously questioning if this was fair

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‘is breaking the rules for tv purposes fair’

arctic fjord
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theres a reason masi resigned

keen vigil
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Are we really still on about the fairness of a championship that ended 4 years ago??

arctic fjord
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so yes youre still on it

keen vigil
true bay
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‘are we still on about this’
votes the objectively wrong answer

arctic fjord
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in 2021 i was rooting for max and i still recognize that ts was unfair

keen vigil
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This is like arguing about the results of the election of 1824 🙏

arctic fjord
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😭😭

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✌️

true bay
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There is nothing to be learned by the present

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Everything you learn in this word is based on the past

arctic condor
keen vigil
arctic fjord
keen vigil
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In clinging to moments of the past which cannot be changed, one only inhibits one's future progression.

true bay
keen vigil
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and one last thing

keen vigil
true bay
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people are only mocked by those who cannot mirror their success

keen vigil
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And would that statement not count as a mocking in itself?

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In using a generalization in an attempt to degrade others, you have inevitably fallen into the target of your own assumptions.

true bay
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generalisations are generally accurate when said generalisation is based off a decision

versed mica
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Ok so how long are still gonna talk what’s fair and what’s unfair about Abu Dhabi 21?

rocky beacon
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how to make ad21 fair: disqualify both and let sainz win the race

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while also letting tsunoda getting his 1st podium

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how to make the 2021 season fair: disqualify both and let bottas win his 1st

sacred summit
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tyrants who ruled who are in the pages of history

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Is it worthless to have debate

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the very fact that this is even a point in discussion means you guys see what happened wasnt fair and just want to hush anyone who tries speaking about it willmao

smoky wing
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Imo the last race was not fair. The entire season wasn’t really fair. Should Hamilton have won in Abu Dhabi? Yes. Should he have won the title? No. Hamilton was honestly very lucky to still be fighting for the title in Abu Dhabi.

dusky cypress
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Also answering the question of the poll… Max isn’t to blame for the decisions made by the race director. He took an opportunity given to him and yes he won fair and square

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Hamilton would have done the same had it been reversed. Then it would be Verstappen fans still crying about it

smoky wing
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I mean if you just look at Imola, Baku, Silverstone and Hungary, it’s insane how many points Verstappen lost / Hamilton gained there. In Imola the red flag saved Hamilton as he had just crashed into the wall. Without that he would‘ve had to do 2/3 of a lap with half a front wing and a full pit stop. The red flag prevented that and he recovered to P2. In Baku Verstappen was simply unlucky to hit a piece lying on the track, otherwise he would‘ve received another 25 points. Silverstone is pretty obvious, he lost at least a P2 there too and the same in hungary, where his car received massive damage at the start, once again ruining a likely P2 or race win. In total that’s a difference of at least ~70 points that Verstappen would‘ve been ahead before Abu Dhabi (assuming Hamilton finishes P8 in Imola, Verstappen wins in Baku and finishes P2 in Silverstone and Budapest)

arctic condor
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guys

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the poll is about the race specificially

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and we all know the race itself was unfair

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season? yeah thats a good debate

true bay
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got hit with mercedes strategy in france

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had damage in austria that cost him p2

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would’ve won hungary if mercedes let him pit, or if the bowling didn’t happen

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lost 5 points due to Belgium counting

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bad strategy in turkey

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and then verstappen was allowed to get away with a slap on the wrist for brazil and jeddah

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  • the dsq which cost hamilton 3 points in the sprint
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and then obviously abu dhabi

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both sides can play this game

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bringing up luck when people discuss abu dhabi is completely irrelevant

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its all subjective

smoky wing
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  1. You have no idea if Hamilton had won that, it was lap 1
  2. I mean the team is a part of the whole thing, isn’t it? Then I‘d have to bring up everything Red Bull did wrong.
  3. true
  4. Once again, it’s a team and if the bowling hadn‘t happened Verstappen would not have lost the points
  5. Verstappen lost points in Belgium too, what? Everyone got half points😂
  6. It’s a team effort
  7. That is very true, however it did not influence the championship at all as Verstappen did not get any advantage
  8. team effort
  9. correct

So in total you‘re only relevant points are just assuming he would win every race where he had a lap 1 incident and blaming the rest on the team, even though it’s a team sport. The only legit argument here is austria

true bay
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lap 1 argument apparently doesn’t work for Hamilton at Imola but it works for Verstappen at Silverstone and Hungary lol

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and yeah strategy is bad luck…

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you can’t just exclude it because its not the bad luck that fits the narrative

outer zenith
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100% fair

smoky wing