#America in F1

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uncut hound
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The fact the US has even made it to 3 races is a disgrace

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May as well remove ‘world championship’ from the name

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USA and Europe and Middle East world championship

vale parcel
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I mean

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Baseball

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“World Series”

buoyant hemlock
tawny ice
next notch
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Just ask the Japanese

worn ferry
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If it provides good racing i dont mind the US having more races. Thats just my opinion

vale parcel
mild pagoda
uncut hound
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miami is ass

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vegas has good races but everything it stands for is bad

vale parcel
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Vegas stands for f1 just trying and failing to make a quick buck

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And Miami is definitely ass

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Austin/COTA is just plain dangerous. I went there and the nearest water station was a mile away. Also, multiple water stations ran out of water. It was over 100 degrees F (37 degrees C) the entire weekend

mild pagoda
uncut hound
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Cota is a good track, in an ideal world it would be the only American race

supple thistle
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Worse track in f1 by a lot

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Even Qatar is better

mild pagoda
mild pagoda
supple thistle
mild pagoda
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Let me explain

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mild pagoda
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I feel that miami gets a majority of hate from the media environment, which I too dislike but I think it is unfair to judge an entire track from that

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The first turn sequence is decent, the esses are quite fun and I enjoy the difficult braking and traction zone leading to the 2nd straight

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It gives a challenge to the drivers, as the exit determines the run on the straight

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Then after the straight is a hard braking point that can allow for good moves, albeit hindered by the hard to follow esses preceding

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Then the run into the chicane isn't terrible

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The chicane is just shit I can't defend it, but it doesnt define the entire track

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Then the backstraight is good for slipstreaming and with a possible overtake on the hairpin, then the final esses wrap the lap up well

supple thistle
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The problem with miami is the fact that every straight and overtaking zone is right after tight single lane sections of track that space the cars out

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Without drs next year the problem will only get worse

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In my opinion the track does not have good flow as well. But that's secondary to good racing which this track does not provide

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It is simply to hard to overtake without a huge pace differntal

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Becuase of the track layout

mild pagoda
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It's hasn't been on the calendar for a long time, I think the new regs might turn the tables next year and allow miami to change its reputation

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With the new regs big new changes to the racing dynamic is possible so who knows

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And I've found the races I've watched in miami quite fun

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The track flow and driving is better than alot of the tracks on the calendar imo

supple thistle
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Miamis good races are becuase of factors outside of the track itself. Though I haven't watched the 2022 race at miami so that may be an uninformed opinon. But 2024 would have been a snoozer without kmag and Sargent crashing. Also I feel the new regs will make this worse. No drs and less dirty air means harder to get alongside on straights plus I feel the 2026 cars will struggle the most in medium and high speed corners but again uneducated opion. Hard disaggre on driving flow but that's a matter of opinon

mild pagoda
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True, the cars in 2026 can change in ways none of us could predict so I think it would be better to give the track a "trial" period first. Thanks for the talk

supple thistle
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All good, never seen someone who liked miami before so it was an interesting chat

uncut hound
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The start/finish straight is also too short

mild pagoda
uncut hound
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it does not

mild pagoda
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You lose quite some time for example, in maggotts and becketts

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Or the suzuka snake

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It's just modern f1

uncut hound
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maggotts and becketts has multiple viable lines as shown by anyone who has ever watched f2 or f3 go around there

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i don’t like suzuka but it is at least a track that is supposed to be a drivers challenge