#Is RBR destroying Yukis career by giving him a bad car made even worse consideri...

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celest bone
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Red Bull have literally given him his career and his car is equal with Verstappens

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Not their fault he sucks

craggy garnet
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terrible rage bait

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red bull has the upgraded parts on hand for fp1 and fp2 and didn't put them it on his car

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he got them for fp3 but didn't get much running

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hes been better than lawson

tacit totem
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The car is ultra tailored to Verstappen

steel berry
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It's the car that's the problem, not the drivers.

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Based on how Hadjar is doing, Yuki would be putting in regular top 6 finishes in that VCARB

tacit totem
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If the car were not tailored to Max then him and Yuki would both be placing around 6th-10th in most sessions

celest bone
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Bar Lawson

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And, look at the context

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Gasly and Albon were very inexperienced

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Perez was the closest anyone has been to Verstappen since Ricciardo

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And outperformed him at times

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Lawson was/is a rookie

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Tsunoda is in his 5th year in the sport and looked questionable for a seat next year even before he joined red bull

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The car is not easy to drive but it is unacceptable to be this far off

tacit totem
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Cue Tsunoda going to Aston Martin, he's a Honda driver anyway

steel berry
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Yuki was given all of preseason testing and the first two races in what is arguably the most driver-friendly car on the grid, then thrown into the current RBR, the hardest to drive, with next to no preparation.

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So far he's been in and around P8-12 in races bar Monaco (and Saudi where he was taken out), which is a world better than the baseline for this year (Lawson, who had all of pre-season testing).

celest bone
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‘P8-P12’ hasn’t finished P8 once

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Lawson finished P12 in his second race

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Tsunoda was a doubt for next year due to him not looking like a valuable asset for the main team and being too old for the junior team which looked, and even more convincingly now, set to sign Lindblad

steel berry
steel berry
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FYI he also DNFd his other race, and qualified P20 twice in China

steel berry
celest bone
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But it goes to show P12 is not a difficult feat

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The second red bull should be P6-P7

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At least beating Antonelli, who is a rookie in a slower car

steel berry
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Red Bull are suffering the consequences of tailoring their car to one driver

steel berry
celest bone
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You cannot outperform a cars potential

steel berry
celest bone
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But you cannot outperform the car

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There is nothing to say Russell isn’t also doing what Verstappen is in terms of maximising it

steel berry
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The Red Bull is much harder to maximise though

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You need a lot more talent (like VER generational level) to get the best out of the Red Bull

celest bone
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No, you just need to know how to drive it

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And have confidence in the car

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Reference Baku 2024

steel berry
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RBR need to stop chucking young/relatively drivers into the second seat and expecting them to perform, instead of addressing the key issues behind it

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At least put an experienced hand in for now

steel berry
# celest bone And have confidence in the car

But to get confidence from it is very difficult. A better driver (e.g. VER) will find it much more easy, but the level you need to be at to extract confidence and performance is very high

celest bone
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They don’t need an experienced driver, they need a top tier driver like the other 3 top teams have

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They will not be able to compete in such a tight grid unless they have someone on that level

steel berry
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Well who out of GAS/ALB/PER/LAW/TSU has done the best? The most experienced, Perez.

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If you put Antonelli into that car, for example, talent will not carry him. Someone like Hulkenberg, who has experience driving high and low-end cars in F1, will have more instinct of how to adapt to a pointy car.

celest bone
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Which, as I see it, is the one year the Red Bull was more drivable