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#ot | vintage-tech
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IPOD! 
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Yeah
I legitimately believe that with a better management Nokia woulda still been a major player
They had the tech and the software to go toe to toe with iPhone
But their management was completely idiotic and self-centred
@scenic cliff basically, they had an OS that they used for all their smartphones since the early 00s - symbian. It had a lot of apps (for the time), multitasking, copy/paste, etc. It did its job for button phones, but when adapted for touch, it wasn't as smooth an experience as iPhone or Android which were made ground up as touch devices.
Nokia devs knew that and they developed Maemo and later MeeGo, which were linux based and had slick user UI on the gorgeous Nokia N9 (pic below). It was supposed to be their future, and I believe it would have been a contender against iOS/Android duopoly.
However, Nokia board of executives had a lot of old suits and were buddy-buddy with the Symbian team who didn't want to be undermined with the new kid on the block, and they still focused on Symbian even though it was outdated. They created excellent phones - Nokia N8 and 808 with excellent screens and cameras, but every reviewer on the planet noted that it's held back by Symbian.
In the background, they fired the old CEO, Olli-Pekka Kallasvuo and got a new one, Stephen Elop with deep ties to Microsoft. They were ready to get onboard with Windows Phone, and I suspect they wanted to sell Nokia to Microsoft (which they later did).
Nokia N9 got released, but it was limited to just certain markets (i suspect a deliberate sabotage) and it never took off. A year later its support got cut and MeeGo got sold to Jolla which still develops it as a custom software for Android phones. Without this sabotage, I believe Nokia's, I can't stress this enough, AWESOME, hardware + it's stunning MeeGo would have become something big. Nokia had incredible brand loyalty in Europe. But it wasn't meant to be.
Nokia got sold to Microsoft and they created Lumia phones with Windows Phone. I liked Windows Phone, but it was lacking in features and apps, but by the time they fixed the missing features, Android and iOS was so ahead that WP didn't gain any foothold in the market and died.
Gesture-based UI (like iPhone since X), neuomorphic design language, buttonless UX? Nokia did that in 2011
Under Microsoft, Nokia released some Lumia phones, and gradually they became the flagship of Windows Phone. Later they ditched Nokia brand and released phones under Microsoft brand, but Windows Phone failed and died.
A company called HMD Global acquired Nokia brand (but the factories remained under Microsoft), and they partnered with Foxconn (chinese manufacturing supergiant) to create Nokia-branded phones. It felt like a return to form ,but they started to stagnate and lose key people, so they have nothing to offer. They are more expensive than Chinese competition but less powerful than flagships from Samsung, Sony, OnePlus etc.
In the late 00s, Nokia was untouchable, with more than a billion phones sold. Microsoft bought it for less than Instagram. Can you see why I'm peeved?
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ohh ok :)
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omg
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i thin khe has an issue with collectionism
(not exactly vintage, but i know it's your jam)
he wants to convert one of these iPod classics to bluetooth
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thinkpads nice
but they seem to be rather recent, at least the top 2
I think it's T460?
and the top x260
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X270, T470, T480, P50, P51, P52
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off by 1 gen on each lol
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idk if they're in that order on the pic
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they seem to be
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he sent me an auction for a T480, it seems small but idk how small
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14"
fairly solid size
T480 is a good laptop
it's the only generation from the new ones that you can mod to change the keyboard from the new style to the old style
because it shares the platform with T25 which was a throwback anniversary model
