cars-and-bikes

[fossil gulch]

NGL, why would you even want a race bike as a street bike

[open kayak]

That would be awesome.

• Terrifying, but awesome.

[jagged crater]

Why not?

[pseudo gull]

proper race bikes arent road legal, but tons of people ride supersports on the street

[void pilot]

mountain routes gonna be spectacular with the 1000cc roaring in the background

[jagged crater]

Or you do a funny

https://mcn-images.bauersecure.com/wp-images/59874/1440x960/kawasaki-zx25r-14.jpg?mode=max&quality=90&scale=down

Get a funky monkey 250

[cyan wind]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDHwc6XGnTg&ab_channel=RoyalJordanian based youtuber

[fossil gulch]

Yeah but I don’t really see the appeal of an SS. Like it’s not a comfortable position to ride in, the suspension is stiff and you’ll never really go above 1/8th throttle

[open kayak]

Are there antique motorcycle laws?

Surely it has to be possible to wiggle a classic circuit bike into the rules.

[fossil gulch]

they still typically need some sort of registration number (i.e VIN) which most race bikes (or pretty much any race vehicle) don't have

[open kayak]

Aw.

[fossil gulch]

Also might need to retrofit certain features like turn signals, a license plate... which would mean modifying the bike

[open kayak]

I didn't know about the registration numbers. I figured it would be as simple as putting on the signals, lights, and plates, much like the car laws.

[void pilot]

yea i assumed it would be somewhat similiar to cars

[fossil gulch]

It is pretty much the same as cars tho

Cars need a registration number to be legal

[open kayak]

Do production numbers count?

[fossil gulch]

IDK

it probably depends on the country

But thats why alot of diy cars in america are labeled as "1/2 ton dodge" even tho its a tube chassis funny car

[open kayak]

Huh. I'm curious how people get rally cars through.

• Factory built ones, specifically.

[fossil gulch]

Are rally cars registered tho?

[open kayak]

Maybe?

[fossil gulch]

if its not plated then no one cars

Same reason F1 cars or Nascars are allowed

cause they aren't on public roads

[open kayak]

Oh, as in plated? Yeah, rally cars have been plated for decades.

I'm not sure how they get the plates, though. Obviously they have signals, lights, plates, and sometimes a horn.

[fossil gulch]

https://mattersoftesting.blog.gov.uk/when-is-a-modified-vehicle-a-rally-car/

[open kayak]

I'm not sure how they do it in Europe.

I know in most of our states, you can get by with signals, lights, a horn, and a valid reason as to why the car is important.

[fossil gulch]

Factory cars are also given alot of leway compared to private companies

[open kayak]

Once a car is twenty-five years or older, here, the restrictions are just about gone.

[fossil gulch]

But usually the DMV needs a vin or some sort of registration number tho

I know some states let you make your own VIN tho

[open kayak]

I'd have to see. I never got that far in the process.

I'd like to familiarize myself, though. If I have the money and chance, I'd absolutely try to get a competition car on the road.

[unique sluice]

they.. buy them?

[fossil gulch]

Part of the problem with putting real race cars on the road is parts availabilty

[open kayak]

Well, you can buy a built rally car from M-Sport or Gazoo. All you need is the money and some paperwork.

[fossil gulch]

You hit a pothole and that cool one off panel is RIP

[open kayak]

The second part is getting the D.M.V. to allow it, though. That's where the question lies.

[unique sluice]

pretty trivial

[open kayak]

Trivial, but it's a fun hypothetical.

[fossil gulch]

Also finding an insurance company that would be OK with you doing that

[unique sluice]

lots of places offer specialised insurance for modified cars/circuit vehicles

[open kayak]

I think Hagerty has given people a pass on old race cars.

I have to dig back through their articles.

[unique sluice]

most race cars will have a VIN and be registered in some way or another

[open kayak]

Yeah, I figured they had some production numbers.

[unique sluice]

our car would pretty much just need to be registered with the DVLA and that's it

[fossil gulch]

Don;t you brits need an MOT as well?

[unique sluice]

yes needs a new MOT

but there's nothing on there that would be a fail

[fossil gulch]

Neat, I know here that even something as simple as putting a 4 point harness in a car will cause it to not be road legal

But they also charge a tax on bikes they arbitrarily deem "dangerous" aka every SS and most 1000cc+ bikes

[unique sluice]

all harnesses or just 4 point harnesses?

because 4 point harnesses are terrible anyway

[fossil gulch]

Any non factory harness

Even just lowering your car makes it a no-no

but we don't do inspections, even at time of registration so IDK the purpose

[unique sluice]

yeah stuff like that is a bit ridiculous, although i don't really disagree with outlawing race harnesses

[fossil gulch]

But we have mandatory winter tires which is hella awesome

cause otherwise uhhhh yikes

[pseudo gull]

one of the worst bikes in the world

[pseudo gull]

oh they’re not good for long riders at all, but they’re fine on the roads as long as it’s a twisty or other nice road. plus, you’d be surprised at how far out you can wring them

[cyan wind]

what is that

250 ninja?

[pseudo gull]

zx25r thingy

basically the same thing

basically no torque and power, and you need to rev the shit out of it to even find the shreds

[fathom rose]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4jlfbkY5xQ&ab_channel=RacecarVisions

This man knows how to fucking drive

His line was perfect, his shifting is on point.

[marsh gazelle]

yo i found this while i was going to a place

i think this is a 458 italia...?

[cyan wind]

ye

one of the sexiest ferrari's

[void pilot]

wrong the f40 exists

[marble cloud]

this is a 458

[marble cloud]

no thats a 488

488 is turbocharged and has the side intake behind the door

https://image.cnbcfm.com/api/v1/image/102396732-trequarti_basso.?v=1423061058

[cyan wind]

ah

[cyan wind]

i always found the dimmed down sport bikes really sad lmfao

sure they're just the smaller version of it, but they're just so shit

if you want a sporty bike atleast make it a bit fast

[pseudo gull]

its not even just the fact that its a slowed-down proper sports bike

its the fact that its like 20 horsepower over 10k rpm

and theres no torque either, so it would be shit in town

[cyan wind]

yea

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39DqimMJKL8&ab_channel=RoyalJordanian

beauty of a sound

[pseudo gull]

husqi

[cyan wind]

royal jordan has some great bikes

[cyan wind]

you've got me into them

[pseudo gull]

what can i say, im very persuasive

[cyan wind]

really sold it to me

[pseudo gull]

ive been debating getting one of their dualsports at some point too ngl

just for fucking around on some green lanes etc

[cyan wind]

for sure

you've probably said already but i have the memory of a rock, but what are you currently riding

[pseudo gull]

waiting for my street triple

[cyan wind]

ah yes

yeah i remember now

[pseudo gull]

if it gets delayed i am going to go for a swim with cement armbands

[cyan wind]

i've only ever passenger'd green lanes, but god it's nice even if im on the back

[pseudo gull]

was meant to have it by now

[cyan wind]

LMFAO

[pseudo gull]

yeah theyre great fun

[cyan wind]

until there's a blind corner and someone gives you a surprise

[pseudo gull]

just gun it and pray

Ethical Riding Advice With Cronch

[cyan wind]

all fun and games... until it isn't

[pseudo gull]

i literally read that in the stereotypical documentary narrator voice lmao

[cyan wind]

i read it in hammonds voice, with all his fun and games

also, royal jordan's BMW s1000rs is hot asf and looks great

[pseudo gull]

im just not a huge fan of bmw bikes

s1000s are all crazy fast, but just a bit soulless from what ive heard

the r nine t range is cool

[fossil gulch]

BMW also has a dual sport version of the S1000 which is hella neat

[cyan wind]

agreed

[fossil gulch]

Well, idk if it’s a true dual sport tho

Maybe more of a adventure touring

[cyan wind]

but yeah, i get what you mean with being souless

[pseudo gull]

its probably more adventure touring

they specialise in that area

[fossil gulch]

My dad got one last season and he fucking loves it. Apparently it’s just as fast as his old K1300R

[pseudo gull]

or they did, before harley want and smashed it out the park with the pan-am

gs is in trouble now with that on the market

[cyan wind]

ye

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0ZjDSn2jD0&ab_channel=FortNine

19krpm redline over 250cc

[fossil gulch]

The GS has been on the downside for awhile apparently

[cyan wind]

i've heard mostly negative about the gs

[fossil gulch]

Nvm

[cyan wind]

the GS?

[fossil gulch]

I confused bikes when it comes to pricing

[cyan wind]

yeah i was gonna say, a gs for 50k is crazy

[fossil gulch]

I was thinking of the gold wing and even then I was off by 50%

[cyan wind]

ah gold wings

[fossil gulch]

Might as well be 50k for me tho

[cyan wind]

lmfao

i think GS usually got for maybe 13k-10k?

[fossil gulch]

It starts here at 18k cad

But you have to buy the metal luggage because comeon, it’s a gs

[cyan wind]

for sure lol

so between 5-11k over here

used aswell

https://www.lego.com/en-za/product/bmw-m-1000-rr-42130 ngl this is kinda awesome

[pseudo gull]

never seen a gs without them

[cyan wind]

yeah literally

[pseudo gull]

oh i really want to get that thing

[cyan wind]

i imagine it's gonna cost a bit lol

[pseudo gull]

£120 or so with my dad's discount code

[pseudo gull]

still quite a bit

oh wait nvm more like 150

hang on lemme double check i cant do maths

[cyan wind]

not a clue why it's freedom dollars

[pseudo gull]

the daytona sp3 one theyve brought out recently is stupid money

350 quid

[cyan wind]

fucking nora

175 quid for the beemer

[pseudo gull]

i get it for 145

the porsche they have is also cool

the whale tail/targa one

[cyan wind]

382 pages of instructions

[pseudo gull]

need

wait why is the photo so small

hold on

[cyan wind]

the tiniest pic

[astral tartan]

Qualeti 100

[cyan wind]

65x29 pixels

[pseudo gull]

there we go

[cyan wind]

there

that's clean

[pseudo gull]

okay note to self, dont copy from the sidebar thingy

[cyan wind]

exaclty lmfao

did they ever do technic GT3?

i swear they ddi

ah i'm thinking of the porsche RSR

oh, the panigale is only 55 quid

[pseudo gull]

panigale is smaller and less detailed though

not as good as the bmw if you ask me

lego mv agusta superveloce when

[cyan wind]

yeah looking at it tbf

[cyan wind]

please

[pseudo gull]

prettiest bike in the world

[cyan wind]

tis a hotty

[fossil gulch]

Straight up my dream car

[pseudo gull]

currently flatlining

[fossil gulch]

So nice

[marsh gazelle]

i just had a heart attack

[pseudo gull]

saaaame, there are a couple who live near me and theyre just so cool

[pseudo gull]

if only it was british racing green 😳

[cyan wind]

😩

[fossil gulch]

Nah, the orange is 🔥

[west night]

they did the street version of the 911 GT3 and the GTE-Version

and a GTE Ferrari

[cyan wind]

ah yeah, keep getting the categories mixed up

[fossil gulch]

Anyone got recommendations for a 500cc+ starter bike?

[astral tartan]

Yeah they did (you mean 911 Gt3 right?)

[timid pecan]

https://www.motor1.com/news/590022/john-delorean-daughter-furious-alpha5/

Smh your dad traffic crack and this is what you do

[pseudo gull]

if you want a 500cc+ starter bike, go for a 650. it’s better to learn on something smaller than 500 though

[fossil gulch]

Yeah, I know it would be better to learn on something smaller but the way permits work here is that if you wanna be licensed to ride 500cc+ bikes then you need to do the final road test on a 500cc+ bike

[open kayak]

You can't blame the man like that. Besides, it was an unfair set-up.

The government made an example of a desperate man.

Besides, she has a valid reason to not approve of the new company. It's like a puppet of a corpse.

[pseudo gull]

ohhh, get an mt07 then

it’s the best sort of thing for a learner in that category

don’t get an r6 though, as good as they are, don’t learn on one

[fossil gulch]

Im probably gonna wind up with a Ninja 650 cause that’s what’s available on the used market in my price range

Or just large 1000cc cruiser bike cause those are surprisingly cheap

Or i can get a CBR1000 for 2k

[pseudo gull]

not as a first bike

you’ll either die or never want to touch a bike again lmao

[cyan wind]

dude a 1000cc as a first bike is the worst thing you'll wanna do lmfao

[timid pecan]

fair enough

Was too hasty

[cyan wind]

starting on 1000cc is a deathbike

depends on how you ride

because any bike is a deathbike, it's a risk you take when you get on one

because if you drive the safest you can, someone can still blast through a red light and make you a pancake on the road

[twin belfry]

"Stupid cagers...."

[astral tartan]

Looks sheeeesh

Let's just hope it has power unlike it's predecessor

[fossil gulch]

Or go bankrupt from insuring the damn thing. I more just posted that one as a joke

[pseudo gull]

insurance is a good point tbf, you'll want to take out a life insurance policy if you start on a 1000 too

theres a reason there are so many low mileage litre bikes for sale with listing captions like "no time to ride it any more" etc etc

bought by rich people who want to ride, so they buy the nicest bike they can, then proceed to shit themself

[marsh gazelle]

W

[still folio]

It's rather just another fictional car but I can see some technical points I could use for its own real-life racing version.

It's twin form mean I could see a potential for 2 aerodynamic packages: a low-downforce for high speed tracks like Monza or de la Sarthe, and a high-downforce for tracks like Suzuka.

[solid violet]

[vital zinc]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMyD-Ax2Gkg

[hollow moth]

What an ugly car

[marble cloud]

its what you get when you try to "modernize" a classic design like EB110

[hollow moth]

It’s what you get when you give the Chiron a new body kit and need a reason to charge another 3m above the normal cost

[void pilot]

lol at least better than the new countach

[marble cloud]

both trash IMO

[void pilot]

agreed the whole "vintage look" fkn destroys the already ugly looking car

especially teh countach, due to regualtions they couldnt put the pop up headlights and now it looks like a modern diablo

[marble cloud]

its inherent in trying to make a modern design but use old design elements

it always end up looking bad unless you modernize the entire concept

and if you do... youd end up with a chiron 🤣

huge fail every time

[calm hare]

Bugatti just does not make good looking cars

[open kayak]

I'm not too sure what their design department does.

I'd say it's "function over form", but is it?

[calm hare]

no

[open kayak]

It doesn't ever really look like it.

[calm hare]

they certainly try and stick with their traditional arched grille

but the thing is, the arched grille is kinda ugly

[open kayak]

They should find a new way to implement it.

Perhaps, they stick to the top arch, alone.

[calm hare]

like I cannot name one good looking Bugatti apart from — maybe — La Voiture Noire

[open kayak]

I think it would help if they abandon the "bubble" designs that the Veyron inspired, and move back to the sleeker design behind the EB110.

[calm hare]

EB110 looks disproportionate, Veyron was just bulky, Chiron looks boxy, Centodieci just looks like an EB110 on meth

like, La Voiture Noire is the only Bugatti I actually am semi-okay with

[open kayak]

The Voiture stepped a little more into the right direction. I agree there.

[calm hare]

oh yeah, the Divo

can’t forget the Divo, a car that looks like it was designed exclusively with a ruler

[marble cloud]

https://media.1815.io/topgear/i/full/2019/03/bugatti-la-voiture-noire-atlantic-57sc-1-scaled.jpg

[calm hare]

even La Voiture Noire isn’t anything special in terms of design

[marble cloud]

lmao xD

[calm hare]

I like the Voiture

it’s the only good Bugatti car

[marble cloud]

"isn’t anything special in terms of design"

[calm hare]

even then, it’s nothing like… special

to me

[calm hare]

I don’t know, it just looks like they’re trying too hard

[calm hare]

not my style

[void pilot]

kinda dig the front

sides are meh and back is just a no

[marble cloud]

thnx for telling me

[spare vigil]

I do not wish to provide a counter argument so I shall send 6 pictures of Bugattis

[river bridge]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/707271136974733413/986358192952991784/IMG_8507.webp

[frail ermine]

2.5 hours later got the truck looking fresh again

[spice ether]

ugly af fr fr

[vital zinc]

?

[marble cloud]

looking so much better 👏

[restive lark]

she has a name lads and lasses

[open kayak]

Meet Chappie, my first track-car, first-second car, and best-worst idea.

• A 2003 Civic Si, with an autocross setup.

Of course, it's not entirely ready. I want to run basic maintenance beforehand.

I need to take off those wind deflectors.

I'm also a bit iffy on the red badges. They're neat and match the red of the Si badge, but it just isn't a Type-R.

[still folio]

Uhhhh what's this

[fossil gulch]

Unironically the coolest car color I’ve seen in recent memory

Also check out this sick bmw

[marble cloud]

congratulations dude I hope it does well for you

[frigid sonnet]

yoo amazingg

so what happened to the kia

[open kayak]

I still have it.

It was too risky to take my only car on track.

Besides, I've wanted a manual for a long time.

[marble cloud]

what is your to-do list?

[open kayak]

Taking off the wind deflectors is a start. I'm not a fan.

[marble cloud]

thats not maintenance 😅

[open kayak]

Fair.

Well, the tires are halfway through their life. I'm going to get ready to order a second pair.

The alignment may need a tweak, and I may have to roll the front fenders from what I've felt in tests.

[marble cloud]

I wouldnt bother with tires yet tbh

id focus on all new fluids

[open kayak]

Definitely. It doesn't need new oil immediately, but I'd like it.

I'm going to put higher-boiling brake fluid in, too.

[marble cloud]

engine oil
transmission/diff oil
refresh brake/clutch fluid and bleed it

[marble cloud]

get some soft race pads as well

[open kayak]

The suspension and brake setup is all good to go for the track. It has some quality coilovers, and Wilwood sport pads all round.

The rotors are a slight step above the factory rotors.

It isn't a bona-fide works setup, but for a slow-fat car, it ought to do the trick.

[marble cloud]

pads make a big difference especially if youre hard on the brakes

street pads will overheat on track

[open kayak]

Very. I don't want to run into the brake fade fiasco I had with the Kia.

[marble cloud]

lol I can imagine xD brown pants moment

[open kayak]

It came from a motorsport family, though. It's been in good hands.

The owner and his father, who's been running SCCA events for at least a decade, had it all set to go for autocross.

[marble cloud]

I am kinda dumb and I am slowly moving towards making my BMW ready for the track

[open kayak]

What's left to do?

[marble cloud]

its my daily tho 😅

[marble cloud]

stock brakes are shit really dont want to run them

I want to get some msport brembos from the F30 generation

I've got a 2009 325i msport

its got the N53 tho not the N52

[open kayak]

I remember the picture. You definitely have the wheels and tires you need.

[marble cloud]

yeah 😄

and the rubber

[open kayak]

You can definitely take your daily to the track. Had I had something other than a Kia at the time, I definitely would have.

[marble cloud]

I have a full fluid refresh ready to go

[open kayak]

It just takes consideration of the risks.

[marble cloud]

engine manual diff

spark plugs and a new belt

need a helmet and gloves as well

have to get diagnosis software so I can check the health of the engine

[open kayak]

I'm guessing you know a good BMW mechanic, already?

[marble cloud]

myself 🤣

[open kayak]

It's good to have one on hand.

[marble cloud]

I had an E36 with almost 300K km on it

[open kayak]

I know a few, but obviously it's no use when I'm across an ocean.

I'm sure you'll have no issue finding one, though, especially in Europe.

[marble cloud]

I do all my own work

[open kayak]

I do everything I can, too.

Of course, I'm a novice, so I can only do so much.

I only have so many tools, too.

[marble cloud]

I dont have a garage to work in

that is way more annoying

[open kayak]

Neither do I!

I need one.

We have a garage at home, but my mother would be furious if I stowed a car in there.

[marble cloud]

I have friends with a small garage box

[open kayak]

I need to make a connection for that.

I've done my work in a parking lot for well over a year, now.

It's only a matter of time before I get caught.

• Which is nonsense, because I'm a quiet and clean worker.

I take forever, but at least I don't bother anyone.

[marble cloud]

I know that feel xD ive been beneath that damn E36 in the snow

[open kayak]

At this point in the summer, I wouldn't complain.

[marble cloud]

undoing rusty seized BMW fasteners is hella fun on a good day

its pure bliss when your fingers arent working and you need that shit done for tomorrow because you have to get to work

🤡👌

[open kayak]

Don't worry about proper gloves, either. Focus on the helmet, at first.

I have a proper helmet, but I go around with winter driving gloves.

They work well, but as I start to go faster and harder, I want to move up to actual gloves.

[marble cloud]

money isnt really an issue for me. my hands get sweaty quite easily so I need good gloves to hold on

[open kayak]

Oh, money or not, prioritize the helmet.

[marble cloud]

any recommendations?

[open kayak]

I have a Bell GTX.3, in carbon. I can speak on behalf of that.

I've seen the best things said about helmets in the $500.00-$1,000.00 range.

There, you're certain to get a quality, certified helmet that can last you years.

[marble cloud]

spicy on the price

[open kayak]

They sell the GTX.3 with a composite shell. It's just as certified as the carbon, but it's much more affordable. That's a good one to look into.

[marble cloud]

I might try and buy one from somebody that's already racing to save some money

I'll look into the GTX3 then

idk what the availability is here

[open kayak]

It might be tough. I was on a waiting list for months.

Then again, that was when COVID was starting to wind down.

[marble cloud]

should I look out for any type of certification?

like SA2020?

[open kayak]

Snell is a good one to have.

The previous FIA certification is a plus, and I can say the GTX.3 meets both.

[open kayak]

Most helmets in this price range well surpass the DOT standards of the world, which backwater tracks require, meet the SA-2020 standards that club events require, and the previous FIA code that amateur competition requires.

[marble cloud]

I'll look into it thnx

I'm still a way off of an actual trackday

I'm going on a road trip to France next month

so all my focus is currently on that

[open kayak]

That sounds like good fun, to me.

[marble cloud]

should be 😄

first roadtrip with this car

and my first vacation of the year

[fossil gulch]

Helmets, regardless of price have a defined life span of 5-7 years

[unique sluice]

just do this with a degree of caution

you can buy second hand but make sure you really know the provenance and history of the helmet

[marble cloud]

you sound like an art dealer. tell me have you sold anyone any priceless historical artifacts recently?

[unique sluice]

yes i have a collection of vintage helmets and race seats to sell you

[open kayak]

The size might be hard to match with secondhand helmets, too.

[marble cloud]

yes I have a very big brain 🧠

[open kayak]

Motorsport stores don't mind sizing you, free of charge.

The harder part is finding one.

[marble cloud]

especially here

[unique sluice]

unless you have a really weird shaped head you wont struggle too much with the second hand sizing

[open kayak]

Well, yeah, but it's worth being sure.

[fossil gulch]

You really shouldn't buy used helmets tho, you have no way of knowing if its been in an accident before or its age

[open kayak]

Yeah. That's what worries me.

I can understand second gloves and secondhand shoes, but the helmet is what I'd never take chances on.

I might have spent a lot on my helmet, but it gives me good confidence that I did.

[sharp nacelle]

Safety is your number one priority, and that could compromise it severely

[fossil gulch]

Helmets are also pretty cheap insurance tbh

losing work for 8 months with a TBI or paying 200 bucks

[open kayak]

The helmet itself lasts years, and the certifications are good for only a few less.

I think my Snell and FIA standards are good until 2025.

[fossil gulch]

Helmets are expected to last 5-7 years but are probably safe for longer

You can check your user manual

It will say how long its intended life is

The helmet shell is fine, its the internal foams and stuff that shit the bed

they lose compressibility

[pseudo gull]

always buy a new helmet and always make sure it has the proper certifications and have gone through proper testing

i don’t know the things for race helmets, but i’d assume they’re similar to motorbike ones and i know a pretty decent amount about them

research which certifications are the best, and make sure the helmets you’re considering meet them

[marble cloud]

I'd be OK with something like 200-300 euro for a helmet

but I guess I should be looking at something more like 500€

[unique sluice]

i'm a ford guy but jesus christ

styling department must have been on holiday when they were designing the flex

so ugly

[normal siren]

why does it sound so goddamn clean

[cyan wind]

not redlining it? smh

[shut locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPn1RMh_msU&ab_channel=AerialAutomotive

[river bridge]

https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a40313324/mclaren-artura-media-launch-issues/

[marble cloud]

wtf is that?

[radiant radish]

Ford Flex

[marble cloud]

looks like a chinese knock off land rover

[radiant radish]

...

[marble cloud]

that has to be a US only thing

no way they can sell those outside of the US

o god... it was even worse

holy shit its bad

[radiant radish]

North America exclusive yes

[radiant radish]

Yeah don't look at the old ones

They're hidious

[marble cloud]

why did you choose to buy it?

[radiant radish]

Well we got it for it's functionality

It's a 3 roe wagon right

Good replacement for a minivan

[marble cloud]

I guess.. if you have a family of 7

[radiant radish]

Fully glass roof, heated seats, awd, and a bunch more features

[radiant radish]

Well even a family of 5 because the rear 2 seats fold down flat creating loads of room

[marble cloud]

what is under the hood?

[radiant radish]

Depends on the trim

There's 2 options

[marble cloud]

betting neither is a manual

[radiant radish]

Se and SEL get an, N/A 3.5L V6 making 290hp

The highest trim, being the Limited. Gets the 3.5L twin turbo ecoboost engine, same one from the ford gt and makes 365hp.

The limited weighs around 4,600 pounds but still hauls to 60mph in 6.1 seconds

[marble cloud]

yeah I looked it up

[radiant radish]

Yeah

[open kayak]

It was a funny car.

I'm not too sure what it was meant to do.

I think the plan was to revive the American station wagon.

Of course, at the same time, the crossover and S.U.V. market was exploding, so they had to raise the Flex up, leaving us with an odd middle-ground between estate and S.U.V.

[zinc drift]

ikr the first five seconds were just so sexy to hear

[jagged crater]

Hearing the Valkyrie AMR Pro do it too

[dense trellis]

TS030 my beloved

[astral hill]

egypt on top 🇪🇬

[pseudo gull]

shame about the stretched busa

[jagged crater]

AYO THAT TARMAC IS SO DAMN SMOOTH

[twin belfry]

https://youtu.be/oVWMuoVn1s4

[haughty crypt]

Ayo they brought back the Integra?

That's a far better name than "ILX"

[astral hill]

kinda agree

its got a 330 tire

[astral hill]

dont you have smooth tarmac where you live lmao

about the busa i think it needs a pillion seat cover + a new paintjob

theres a vrod video but i cant send it because its 4k 🤡

[tulip plaza]

😂

[jagged crater]

https://www.motor1.com/news/593283/prodrive-p25-modern-subaru-22b-460k-price/

[open kayak]

The Delta Futurista isn't alone, anymore!

[spare vigil]

I'm gonna cum

[jagged crater]

Kimera EVO37

[jagged crater]

The Twincharged mcgoober

[pseudo gull]

not sure where they got that price from. it's actually £552,000

either way, too much money

they'll be absolutely brilliant cars, and they'll just sit in garages, owned by collectors

[unique sluice]

..which is exactly what they said in the article

£460k excluding VAT

[pseudo gull]

i didnt read it, i just commented on the title

fairly obvious

[jagged crater]

So why is it like... His fault for being correct?

[unique sluice]

incredible critical thinking there

[jagged crater]

this is wrong

but it's not wrong
yeah but you can tell I understood it wrongly out of ignorance

[unique sluice]

yes

never change discord

[astral tartan]

God i love this company

[pseudo gull]

i saw what i thought was a wrong fact in the title and i commented on it?

y’all making this out to be a bigger thing than it is lmao

[twin belfry]

https://youtu.be/O5VMmUoazX4

Now, 007. Your new mode of transport. Due to budget cuts, MI6 has supplied you with something more… “consumer friendly.”

[sick pike]

Jesus Christ
https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a40359937/2023-porsche-911-gt3-rs-spy-shots/

[regal crow]

What do you think about new BMW M2 ?

[pseudo gull]

yeah its that

old m2 cs was one of my dream cars, the new m2 will just be so ugly

and bigger and heavier besides

[void pilot]

bmw fkn sucks nowdays

theyve totally lost their design philosophy its like the 2000s concepts cars but uglier

like what the fuck is this i was already disappointed by the predecessor this shit made it worse

and mercs whole sedan line up is literally the same cars but different sizes

[twin belfry]

I guess the only thing worth rooting for would be their LMDH program

[astral falcon]

The body looks alright but the grille is just ew

[pseudo gull]

bmw has some brilliant cars but their styling department needs to be burnt down

m5 cs? brilliant

8 series? love them

7 series and 4 series? gross, deserve to be destroyed

[fossil gulch]

Imo, The grill looks nice when it’s black on black but otherwise it’s ass

[mossy void]

car

[marble cloud]

https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/036/096/827/large/erik-m1999-m5-utah-2.jpg?1616704644

[marble cloud]

you realize that its disguised so you dont know what it will look like...

M5 is the only model I would buy today (if I was made of money)

[pseudo gull]

the non M one isn’t though, and they won’t change it that much

[void pilot]

if theyre still offering the m8 that wouldnt be a bad option as well

looks pretty decent

even the z4 is pretty cool

[marble cloud]

too heavy they're too focused on luxury

everything they make is too heavy

they don't have a compact car anymore

it's all heavy garbage

[jagged crater]

The Z4 is butters compared to the concept

[open kayak]

I'd like to meet the person who put the K20 oil filter where it is essentially in the wheel well.

It's not funny.

[mild wave]

Leave and never come back

[simple lion]

Bro wtf

[void pilot]

why

just

why

[sour bronze]

Lmao

[fossil gulch]

Ngl, without the wing on the back it would be hella sick

[astral falcon]

This is what a war crime looks like

[sour bronze]

Lmaoo

[astral tartan]

Ykw...i like it

[sour bronze]

Finally a man of culture

[jagged crater]

https://scontent-lhr8-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.6435-9/55811481_1168543173323132_2872115776968458240_n.jpg?stp=cp0_dst-jpg_e15_fr_q65&_nc_cat=103&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=8024bb&_nc_ohc=uQJk4Oi1XRcAX_ptR0x&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr8-1.xx&oh=00_AT8OOVH1vdo-8oNr-5a_IQ2xd0qSIm29yyHzbLI21rR43w&oe=62DC52CC

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/68/a4/35/68a435afd414be9cf6d5382d3cb69a1b.jpg

Have the Dome Jiotto Caspita Mk.2 JUDD

Coz the first one wanted to use the butters Subaru B12

[ionic dirge]

After nine years my model collection is complete in my eyes I received my grandfathers models just today and it feels amazing to know I have something my grandfather owned and I can now look at it everyday knowing he is looking down on me. Some of the models I have collected myself but most are from what he collected

[cyan mountain]

that's really cool

[ionic dirge]

Thank u 🙏🙏

[tawdry badger]

some pics i took today

Nice lil drive

[astral falcon]

Finally a white car that's actually clean

The pics are 🔥

[cyan wind]

awesome 1st pic

[tawdry badger]

i try my best 😅 and thank you!

[tawdry badger]

thank you!! i think it’s my fave one

[cyan wind]

lovely views too, you're from england too i'm guessing?

[tawdry badger]

Wales so not too far away

[cyan wind]

oh awesome

yeah some of the views in the uk are beautiful

[tawdry badger]

Where i took those pics is around 5-10 mins from where i live and somehow never been there before

But yeah, some of the views around here are amazing

[cyan wind]

i feel that lol, i just found a walking path 2 miles from me and it's surreal when the golden hour is around

[tawdry badger]

literally! i live rurally so literally everywhere around me is pretty nice

[cyan wind]

oh dude that's my dream

i'm from far down south in england, but live in quite a city so there's not many pretty views

but when you find them, man they're pretty

[sick geyser]

.urethra

Oh he didn’t actually make it a tag

[cyan wind]

idiot

.urethra

[wraith peak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418152690044895242/991082154685505567/unknown.png

[umbral orbit]

.urethra

[wraith peak]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/418152690044895242/991083355506376724/unknown.png

[umbral orbit]

Final version

[sharp nacelle]

Is there are reason it's in this channel?

[sick geyser]

I made a mistake and these 2 are dummies

[cyan wind]

so i can laugh

[sharp nacelle]

Sounds good to me

[hollow wing]

[astral tartan]

Are my eyes gone? (2nd pic)

[astral tartan]

Seat

[tawdry badger]

show me a torana

[twin belfry]

https://youtu.be/Yk73lzi_j_o

[unique sluice]

ST-line X 👌

no pano roof?

[tawdry badger]

Unfortunately not

[unique sluice]

nice spec anyway

i went through 4 of the diesels, really nice cars

[tawdry badger]

Oh absolutely they are. Somehow in the couple months that I've owned it I've not kerbed the alloys once

[true jungle]

spot the difference

[pseudo gull]

they’re totally different cars, first of all

there are so many differences lmao

[tawdry badger]

yuh

[marble cloud]

the front end is sooo ugly

production variant is actually a lot better

[tawdry badger]

beautiful

[true jungle]

explains why the RB17 prototype has a aston martin badge at the exact same spot as the valhalla

[pseudo gull]

i can nearly guarantee you it’ll go the same way as their other hypercar project, dying before it ever comes out

[true jungle]

possible

[pseudo gull]

also i thought the rb17 was going to be red bull only, why would it have an aston badge?

[true jungle]

red bull plans to launch it at 2025 with only 50 models so it will be a unknown car either way

[pseudo gull]

just more vapourware

[true jungle]

i was also confused about it when i spotted the badge, seeing its a high res image when the car was announced a few hours ago it could be a picture of the valhalla prototype when red bull still worked on it

[pseudo gull]

oh do you mean the camouflaged one in those photos you sent?

[true jungle]

its not uncommon for news sites to use other car pics when they look similar

[pseudo gull]

because that’s a valkyrie

[true jungle]

is that a valkyrie?

[pseudo gull]

yeah

[true jungle]

doesnt the valkyrie have a bigger wing?

[pseudo gull]

top one is a valkyrie, bottom one is a valhalla

you’re thinking of the valkyrie amr pro

the racecar one

[true jungle]

yeah this one

[pseudo gull]

yeah that’s the amr pro

the camouflaged one is the road version

[true jungle]

yeah this valkyrie looks super similar with the smaller wing

[pseudo gull]

so far there’s only one sketch of the rb17 and it’s a side-view one

they won’t have a proper model yet

[true jungle]

this one?

[pseudo gull]

yeah

[true jungle]

i thought the valkyrie in the twitter video was a short video of the car seeing it was the most shown vehicle

yeah this doesnt look like it could be a good car

[pseudo gull]

it looks ugly imo

they probably showed the valkyrie in the video as newey worked on it

[true jungle]

yeah

yeah the sketch just looks weird with the pointy front and the cockpit glass

[pseudo gull]

if they ever build one it won’t look like that

they might keep the rear overhang and the side silhouette but that’s about it

[jagged crater]

The front overhang won't just be a block

[pseudo gull]

that’s such an ugly sketch though

it’s awful

[astral tartan]

Size
Cockpit
Wheels
Aerodynamics
Front end
Rear wing
Engine

[ionic dirge]

Wdym

[jagged crater]

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/mgl/kkzpR/s3/wcf-aston-martin-project-am-rb-001-aston-martin-project-am-rb-001-teaser-image1.jpg

https://www.formula1.com/content/dam/fom-website/manual/Misc/2022manual/2022Races/BritishGP/Pre-race/RB17-KeySketch.jpg

The Valkyrie sketch for comparison

[river bridge]

This was an auto car sketch dw

This was done by the journalists

[pseudo gull]

oh thank god

proper one would probably look a lot sleeker

[river bridge]

Weighing only 900kg with over 1250hp will make this thing quite potent

[pseudo gull]

if it’s ever anything more than vapourware

besides, i have reservations about how good newey would be at designing a road caf

race car? sure. but a lot of that doesn’t really carry over

[river bridge]

People had reservations with Byrne designing the laferrari chassis

[pseudo gull]

yeah that’s true

[river bridge]

People had reservations about murray designing the f1

[pseudo gull]

we’ll have to wait a few years and see i guess

[river bridge]

If you don’t want that

[pseudo gull]

can you dumb that down for me, i don’t really understand what that picture’s saying lmao

[river bridge]

Rosso corsa

The car I mentioned previously is going to turn 10 next year

[jagged crater]

LaF

[pseudo gull]

ohhhh the laf

yeah i got a bit lost lmao

[river bridge]

It’s not the laf technically, it’s the successor

[cyan wind]

saw a ferrari f40 on monday

[pseudo gull]

i mean the laf will be turning 10

i hope the successor is good tbh

i’m not a fan of the sf90, so i hope this tops it

[river bridge]

The chart suggests this will at least be 4 seconds faster

[pseudo gull]

fucking hell

[river bridge]

A previous statement from 2016 suggests it’ll be 15% lighter than the laferrari

[pseudo gull]

laf wasn’t exactly heavy either lmao

as far as hybrid hypercars go obviously

[jagged crater]

Damn 1,255kg for LaF

Also the new V12 probably contributes

[river bridge]

Improved computational design

[jagged crater]

The new V6 in the 296GTB probably is a good step coz that Hybrid system is cash

Oh Generative design I hope is used

Smaller size, Pre-Ignition chambers, revs, better material useage

[pseudo gull]

that 296 is so cool, i love it

[jagged crater]

https://pictures.topspeed.com/IMG/crop/202107/10-awesome-facts-abo-20_800x0w.jpg

[pseudo gull]

the tech is so impressive and apparently it’s just a brilliant car all round

[jagged crater]

Like the engine on the 296 is gorgeous

[river bridge]

That engine might go in the lmh

[jagged crater]

The car pulls off a modern 60's perfectly

[pseudo gull]

that front looks a lot like the sp3

[jagged crater]

Well maybe not Perfectly but

[river bridge]

It’s meant to

[pseudo gull]

they’ve probably taken cues from it

[river bridge]

https://www.ferrari.com/en-EN/magazine/articles/lmh-the-countdown-has-started

[river bridge]

As you would expect from 75 years of racing innovation, the car’s stylistic features show clear references to previous Prancing Horses. The front, in particular, is immediately recognizable as that of the 6.5 litre V12 Ferrari Daytona SP3, itself a nod to the sports protypes of the 1960s and the golden era of wheel racing.

[jagged crater]

It's quiet but sounds good...

[pseudo gull]

i should’ve read that before ngl seems obvious now i think about it

[pseudo gull]

that spec was gross though

[jagged crater]

Fair

But the curve in the glass, augh

[pseudo gull]

hearing that valkyrie revving in the supercar paddock was just bliss though

what a noise

may have minor hearing damage, but it was worth it

[jagged crater]

Your boi always stays strapped with the cans tho

Ignore the fact that the one time I was recording it getting in the queue, I didn't quite have them on and got a nasty surprise

[astral tartan]

It looks flat and squished is it paper or like drawing

[astral tartan]

Sheeesh

[ionic dirge]

It’s a brand my grandfather collected it’s a clay model and it was made to be cartoon like

[hollow moth]

All modern Ferraris are ugly

Early to mid 2010s was peak Ferrari design

Even since then it has all been ugly

[river bridge]

May have some group c esque styling towards the rear

[pseudo gull]

hopefully

[cyan wind]

200sx from a few days back

[hazy ingot]

Hello

[tulip bramble]

@cyan wind

[surreal heath]

Hi

[hazy ingot]

Heyy

[surreal heath]

It’s so longggggg

[tulip bramble]

29k but long wheelbase

[tulip bramble]

yepp

[cyan wind]

i wonder the price difference between h2 and h2r

[tawdry badger]

sup

[tulip bramble]

I honestly havent checked

[zinc pike]

Isn't the H2R track only?

[cyan wind]

also that swingarm is long as fuck

[cyan wind]

ye

[empty pelican]

Come back to #deqeneral-🤪 they back there lol

[zinc pike]

o

[tulip bramble]

indeed it is, not really a fan

[cyan wind]

probs someone who can't handle wheelies

[zinc pike]

29k is quite a bit

[empty pelican]

Man I wish this was real

[tulip bramble]

its actually fairly cheaper

[zinc pike]

Its more for stability reasons but yea does look odd

[tulip bramble]

consider how most 2nd hand H2’s get sold and bought for 50k

[zinc pike]

o wow

[tulip bramble]

idk why they buy it for that much

[zinc pike]

i think panigales go for around 70k new

[tulip bramble]

but an extra 20k is a new car as well so yeah not so worth it

[cyan wind]

oh

guys

[tulip bramble]

Yeah the V4’s go for around 70k

[zinc pike]

oooo

[zinc pike]

Si?

[cyan wind]

wanna guess my insurance quote for my first year on a motorcycle

[tulip bramble]

I see v2’s around here get sold for around 30k lower around here

[zinc pike]

i have no reference

[zinc pike]

oooo nice

[tulip bramble]

I should learn how to ride a lower cc bike first

I’m honestly eyeing a scrambler bike

[zinc pike]

im not at all into bikes

[tulip bramble]

Idek how I got into bikes

just the thought of riding one feels nice

and getting a superbike is cheaper than getting a supercar so yeah

tho its more hazardous

[zinc pike]

ye

[cyan wind]

5000 is more than the actual price of the bike

[zinc pike]

💀

[cyan wind]

so i'd have to completely write off my bike, then i buy another bike and still have about a grand in insurance

unreal

[tulip bramble]

thats expensive damn

[zinc pike]

completely unintentional money glitch

[tulip bramble]

[zinc pike]

except ur the one losing money? Idk

i need sleep

[tulip bramble]

beaut

[cyan wind]

i could literally buy a second hand bike, all new equipment and still have 400 quid with 5 grand

[zinc pike]

is that the H2

[cyan wind]

yes

[tulip bramble]

yupp

[zinc pike]

H2 looks funky

huge bike

[tulip bramble]

indeed

[cyan wind]

also saw this beauty a few days back

[tulip bramble]

I should consider a Superduke as my 1st bike

[cyan wind]

what cc

[tulip bramble]

600

[cyan wind]

i probs would too

either that or honda cb600r

[twin belfry]

https://youtu.be/8BqHD8KxrS0

[tulip bramble]

I guess Ninja 450 is on my list too

[twin belfry]

I’d go for this

[tulip bramble]

MT’s

good stuff

[cyan wind]

oh i completely forgor about MT's

yeah i'd get an MT

they're the beast of naked bikes

[tulip bramble]

MT-10’s are beautiful

[twin belfry]

I think the MT09 is my favorite if I were to choose between that, the 07, and the 10

[tulip bramble]

didnt know it was a 1000cc bike too

honestly thought it was a 700

[cyan wind]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyMRFz-_48s

i love this guy

[tulip bramble]

I watch ImKay alot for bikes

His V4 and his M1000RR is just beautiful

and not to mention his H2

[twin belfry]

https://youtu.be/QG9S_WE6fp4

I’d take this over a harley any day

[cyan wind]

i watch him, fortnine and chaos causes

[tulip bramble]

Harley Bobbers are definitely on my “to get” list

[twin belfry]

https://youtu.be/HAFLXBp2XVc

[sharp nacelle]

The last license plate is impeccable

[mild wave]

Got bored, took some tracing paper and put it over a pictur of a BMW 2002 and did some magic in photoshop

Made it look like some sort of sketch

[north tree]

2 days ago I saw this...

[marble cloud]

not sure why you felt we had to suffer as well

[astral falcon]

w-what

[supple dust]

Eww. Change it quick! CHANGE IT-

[hard basalt]

Well, technically it's a car, just big.
The beach was nice tho, being able to park it right next to it makes things better.

[astral tartan]

Yeah it's a car and a bit big
Cool car tho

[astral falcon]

That shade of red is really cool

[sharp nacelle]

Turn up your volume

[astral tartan]

Hell nah they put wings on a convertible
Can't have shit in Detroit

[sharp nacelle]

What you can have is twelve hundred horsepower

[astral tartan]

💀

[sharp nacelle]

Turn your volume to max and you've got a better representation of real life

Another quiet Corvette

So many quiet Corvettes

[open kayak]

A resident brick!

[astral tartan]

How did they fit V12 into that smol thing

[fair pewter]

Maybe because it has the bonnet the size of a Mercedes.

[paper ibex]

Just texted my dad a pic of the car id like to get and he just said "oh so you like JDM cars" and im like damn i though u didnt even know what that meant 😭💀

W dad

[rose pilot]

FORD MUSTANG 2015 GT
my favorite car

[paper ibex]

Nice

[orchid stratus]

U like hitting people 😆

[paper ibex]

Lmao

[rose pilot]

why

[orchid stratus]

Yknow what mustangs are famous for right?

[jagged crater]

Fam not even the facelift?

https://www.shelby.com/portals/0/webdatasheet/2021_ShelbySuperSnake/ShelbySupersnake-21-data.jpg

Get eh Super Snake chief

[astral tartan]

Is that from the company itself

Holy shit

[jagged crater]

That is the Current Shelby Super Snake, aye

[astral tartan]

Sheeeesh

I love Ford for this

They didnt let the Shelby name die

[jagged crater]

Well like... Shelby isn't owned by Ford my Guy

Wait

Now it is

Cock

[vital zinc]

McLaren!

[dense beacon]

😂

hunting the crowd

[sharp nacelle]

How about the GT350?

[pseudo gull]

gt350r is the cleanest current gen mustang imo

the bullitt is also cool

[jagged crater]

Engine wise? Yes, aesthetically didn't get facelifted tho with the new lights

[dense beacon]

i'm in love man. This car 😍

[astral tartan]

Cardboard!

[astral tartan]

Oh that S2000 looking good

[vital zinc]

It's normal in Hong Kong

[twin belfry]

https://youtu.be/9zAHEsIR96Q

[atomic pumice]

u said mclaren but I spotted that damn hotty s2000

[open kayak]

That S2000 has my heart, as well.

[vital zinc]

Black mclaren

[jagged crater]

https://live.staticflickr.com/4533/38345177461_ae7105b325_b.jpg

[hollow moth]

Slr Stirling moss

[pseudo gull]

as cool as those are, they’re so ugly

[jagged crater]

If they didn't have the massive hoops

[hollow moth]

Looks better than modern speedsters

[jagged crater]

With the exception of the Monza SP2

https://car-images.bauersecure.com/wp-images/3140/1752x1168/ferrari_monza_sp1sp2_18.jpg?mode=max&quality=90&scale=down

You cannot dis my boy

[hollow moth]

Ugly

Roma without the bad grill

Tho for a modern Ferrari its ok

[pseudo gull]

monza looks amazing imo

i like the aston v12 speedster too

but my main problem is they might as well be electric, past 50 or so you can’t hear the engine at all, it’s all wind noise

[hollow moth]

Never understand the point of them

“Speedsters” to enjoy going fast but you need a helmet which defeats the whole point

[acoustic oxide]

any thoughts ?

[jagged crater]

Cringe

[pseudo gull]

you don’t need a helmet at all tbh

they’re just about having a more open driving experience i guess?

[neon nacelle]

this thing was such a huge part of my childhood

[hollow moth]

You can just do that with any car without a windscreen

If yr going above 70 km you need something to protect yr face from small rocks and flies

If yr going lower than that whats the point in these 2 million+ cars just get a caterham 7 which probably has better acceleration anyways

End of the day these are just cars made to turn a quick profit by changing the existing cars they already have

[jagged crater]

You could say that about several classic cars tho

[hollow moth]

Na these cars are different

Take McLaren for example all of their cars were basically the same thing

Same with all Bugatti and lambo special cars

Just the chiron or aventador in a different dress

[jagged crater]

... Is that different?

[pseudo gull]

at the end of the day, people buy them and theyre desirable. are people ever really going to drive them? no. but all other hypercars are the same

[jagged crater]

Ish

[neon nacelle]

me riding shotgun in my dad's car holding a can of lemon soda as we're about to hit a mountain road >>>>

[solid violet]

was at my local car meet this evening, very very sexy thing

[neon nacelle]

is that an Austin Healey of some sort in the background?

[solid violet]

believe so

v dirty mr2 there too

[neon nacelle]

ooooohhhhh

giulia in the back too

[tawdry badger]

FF vs F12

Drew in 2015 during an Art class

Still faster than Ferrari after 2007

They never won WDC again since

Taken during Japan Trip in April 2016

In Osaka

In Thailand, you can also find AMG GT easily

That's not the case for SLR and SLS however

[neon nacelle]

easily?? I've only seen a handful of them

[tawdry badger]

Kommst du aus Thailand?

I'm in Bangkok

But I was born in Chiang Mai

[neon nacelle]

Thailand is full of Cayennes and Macans pretending to be "supercars" and Mercedes drivers who dunno how to drive

[tawdry badger]

Are you from Thailand btw?

Where do you live in Thailand?

I'm in Bangkok

[mortal depot]

Thai band kid activities

[gilded saffron]

I really hope this makes it to production

[hollow moth]

Probably will

Remember the electric hatch back

[gilded saffron]

Hopefully they don't change the design too much

Cos it looks incredible

[neon nacelle]

I hope Nissan takes some note

[hollow moth]

The koreans have overtaken the Japanese

All the new cars coming from japan are meh or bad

[neon nacelle]

eeeehhhhhh I disagree with that, I think they're alright still, better than the Germans at least

[hollow moth]

Yeah bmw and merc have fallen off

[twin belfry]

Audi and Porsche are our only hopes

[tawdry badger]

I prefer AMG GT over 911 or R8

That shit is monstrous

Mercedes can be that aggressive, they need to extract even more.

They should focus on both electric cars and the beasts

[pseudo gull]

it won’t in that form, but there’ll most likely be a production coupe without all the aero bits

[mortal depot]

OC traffic w/ a Maserati

[brittle python]

my shitbox

[sour bronze]

Gr Corolla

[marble cloud]

your shitbox sounds angry

[devout peak]

I hear money draining from that exhaust of yours

wtf

i edited and tageed someone

[tawdry badger]

Which is the best Yamaha scooter? Fino, Filano, Nmax,Xmax,Lexi or Tmax?

Like Fino is cute

Filano is vintage

Tmax is huge

[tulip mulch]

stutututu

[fathom rose]

Drove an NSX today, my absolute dream car

[marble cloud]

I've rarely seen a black one

[tawdry badger]

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