That Maserati looks like a Puma and a Cayenne/Macan
#cars-and-bikes
jagged crater
cinder hatch
the only reason i can respect the puma is
river bridge
lethal gulch
Our epic City Car Cup Peugeot 107, gets a pretty good time around Llandow circuit too
spare vigil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jal0GoJgx3Q
that is cool
tawdry badger
that cage is sick
cinder hatch
cinder hatch
Our epic City Car Cup Peugeot 107, gets a pretty good time around Llandow circui...
epic shit
vocal sandal
https://twitter.com/en_toyota/status/1509716450071937026
kinda sick ngl
pseudo gull
i used to own the small old puma, brilliant car
absolutely amazing, handled great, fizzy little engine
the new one is just the same as any other copy-pasta crossover
frosty mason
First ever australian made electric bike 👀
sturdy gull
It’s not my favourite
frosty mason
It’s not my favourite
Yeah not the best looking BUT still pretty for Australia who aren’t known for making bikes and what not.
We’ll see when it comes out
restive moth
known for making anything* 😂
frosty mason
known for making anything* 😂
Vegemite
sturdy gull
I’m an Aussie
restive moth
Same
sturdy gull
Cool
restive moth
Vegemite is actual garbage and only few people actually eat it lmao
Peanut butter and nutella are significantly more popular
frosty mason
Vegemite is actual garbage and only few people actually eat it lmao
Haha yessss 😂
sturdy gull
Vegemite is goated
restive moth
When americans and shit try to eat it they scoop the whole thing
Only meant to put a very sligt
but its still 💩
frosty mason
Yeah doesn’t matter how much you put on will always be 🤢🤢🤢
restive moth
if i shat in my hand and lubricated it with piss it'd taste better than vegemite imo
sturdy gull
Nah mate
spare vigil
isnt vegemite the dragon ball z character
cyan wind
what
unique sluice
Our epic City Car Cup Peugeot 107, gets a pretty good time around Llandow circui...
BRSCC?
lethal gulch
isnt vegemite the dragon ball z character
Yeah
open kayak
Apologies for the bad embed. This is a Classic Driver collection of photos on Instagram.
The 458 test mule for the LaFerrari will be on sale in May.
The roof scoop is something.
open kayak
A center driving position, too.
vocal sandal
ugly too
agree
my mom just pranked me she hasnt bought it eyt
but i wouldnt wnat her to do it anyway
corolla cross is much better imo
obsidian basin
Mitsubishi is great engine. great car
much better than RBPT
very good xpander
sharp nacelle
river bridge
frigid sonnet
yoo tha disc glow
spare vigil
zamn
mild wave
Aight I guess we here now
cyan wind
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/707271136974733413/959148400153083964/IMG...
where's that
monza?
cyan wind
ah
cyan wind
that pagani is hot
river bridge
that pagani is hot
The successor to the huayra
open kayak
It looks more like a callback to the Zonda.
- The double-vertical tailllights, the downward posture.
The Huayra had this flatter look, but the Zonda was always steeper from the front to back; having the posture that this mule has.
cyan wind
fucking love the zonda ngl
open kayak
The original Zonda was wonderful.
jagged crater
river bridge
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/sSyoYMJNfek/hqdefault.jpg
did you cut and paste the c10 model onto a new background?
little dust
electric scooter recommendations?
minor otter
fierce veldt
Me in a moderately fast car in 2015
fierce veldt
electric scooter recommendations?
A blue one with go faster stripes
sharp nacelle
dense trellis
Crazy to think that just a couple of thin rods hold those front wheels on that far out
open kayak
Where was that?
sharp nacelle
Where was that?
Petersen museum
open kayak
Oh! I forgot you were still in L.A.
I've wanted to go there so badly. It's easily one of, if not the greatest automotive museums on the planet.
The building, itself, is wonderful.
sharp nacelle
I've wanted to go there so badly. It's easily one of, if not the greatest automo...
Do it
If you ever have the chance pay for all of it
Do everything you can
This car is probably worth $100 million
(you weren't supposed to take photos of it really but the people there say that you can they will turn a blind eye)
spare vigil
lol
main lark
workers vs bosses
twin belfry
noble nebula
MARCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
noble nebula
BUT IM ASHH
don't care.
frigid sonnet
: )
cyan wind
https://youtu.be/VQbv4i_ghes
those things are monsters
my old man has a versys and i thought that was big
then i saw the goldwing
twin belfry
those things are monsters
Goldwings are cool
cyan wind
they are
cyan wind
i don't think they ever really knew what they were supposed to be
it's kinda cafe racer, but then also quite crusier
judging the riding position it's more sporty
sick geyser
😩
twin belfry
I prefer the older rocket iii’s design to this one. Looks more refined
cyan wind
yeah harelys are really not my thing
i can appreciate they look nice but i doubt id drive one
tawdry badger
I’d drive a Harley for Old School feels
and because the Road King gives Highway patrol vibes 
1998 CHiPs
river bridge
jaunty epoch
Carrera GT Zagato?
river bridge
Carrera GT Zagato?
Yes
jaunty epoch
Looks pretty
tawdry badger
I like the Gemballa Carrera GT
slim nest
tawdry bane
I like these
open kayak
I want a first-generation Ninja at some point.
It would be my first (road) motorcycle.
I have an itching feeling it will be the death of me, though.
sick geyser
Why?
sick geyser
Wear the proper equipment and you should be fine tbh
Also obviously don’t be reckless
open kayak
I wouldn't daily it, granted, and it's small town America.
It isn't a very challenging environment.
Although, American drivers are American drivers.
cyan wind
yeah dailying a sporty bike mustn't be the most fun
open kayak
The original Ninja isn't that wild, at least by today's standards.
open kayak
Yeah.
I think the Haybusa is neat, but I would never own one.
- Yet still, it isn't nearly as fast as today's higher-end bikes.
fossil gulch
yeah dailying a sporty bike mustn't be the most fun
Dailying any bike, especially with traffic isn’t fun
sharp nacelle
All the riders in la traffic seem to think the double yellow lines form a small lane for bikes
tawdry badger
honestly as much as I want bikes
I dont think I can
theres that feeling where I may end up crashing, so I somehow choose 4 wheels over 2 wheels
H2R’s aaa
fossil gulch
All the riders in la traffic seem to think the double yellow lines form a small ...
I didn't even think of lane splitting, just the continuous awkward penguin waddle and constant clutching
sturdy gull
I saw one that looked similar to this today
tawdry badger
yes
cyan wind
fastest production bike in history if im not wrong
tawdry badger
Too fast
too fast to die
cyan wind
i cannot imagine riding that thing
cyan wind
lmfao thats not a good bike to daily
its fun on straights and bendy corners, not clutching through trafci
but at that point dailying any bike through traffic can be annoying
jagged crater
Nah get a BTMoto flash so it doesn't die
M1000RR hours for maximum price extortion
Also Kawasaki made a new 250cci4
tawdry badger
but at that point dailying any bike through traffic can be annoying
I agree, just riding a bicycle from the city to somewhere with less traffic is already a pain, cant imagine it with a bicycle
I generally dont have plans on getting a bike, because for one I am not wired to ride one
I havent actually learned how to ride Motorcycles
jagged crater
I'd love to learn to ride now I've gotten into em
tawdry badger
yeah same
tawdry badger
I dont even where I’ll learn to use a motorcycle
twin belfry
fossil gulch
If I’d get a Bike I’ll daily I think I’ll get 1000 rr
But that’s the BMW equivalent to the HS2
cyan wind
HS2?
fossil gulch
h2R
Oops
I made a mistake
I really, really wanna buy an old GS this summer when I get my license
cyan wind
yeah the h2r is way off the bmw
twin belfry
Nothing can outmatch an H2R
jagged crater
With a flash most superbikes will be 230-240 range
But still... Ain't Supercharged, are they?
cyan wind
jagged crater
I meant how the rest of the Litre Class group isn't, hence not the powee
river bridge
well I can but it isnt street legal <:willmao:680360271801352192>
Me:
neon nacelle
That’s my car right there 🙂
u drive a Caparo T1?
dense trellis
Just under 1 month until my Tacoma Trail Edition gets here!
tawdry badger
Tacoma’s are hot
astral tartan
Lamborghini Huracan: this isn't even my final form
tawdry badger
It looks sick
fading topaz
meh. It looks the same to the other huracans
I know it has different parts in it, but I want something that looks different
ancient scarab
nice Corvette
frigid sonnet
💀
fossil gulch
Oh boy, another car that looks exactly the same as the other ones released a decade ago
cyan wind
but they made the lights higher and more to the side!!!
cyan wind
new cars are just big grill with headlights moved to the left and higher
all look shit
tawdry badger
Tru
and somehow that new Huracan had bigger wheels
or smaller body
looks ugly either way
looks like a toy car
twin belfry
The rims do no justice
open kayak
I just want another rear-wheel-drive, manual Lamborghini.
Although, I'm at least happy they still make rear-wheel-drive models.
pseudo gull
I just want another rear-wheel-drive, manual Lamborghini.
the only way that’ll happen is if they somehow nab porsche’s six speed
which won’t happen
besides, they’re moving to electrification, and no mainstream manufacturer makes a manual electric car
thin aurora
its plausible
pseudo gull
oh hey rally
thin aurora
hey
pseudo gull
didn’t realise you were in here
thin aurora
i barley talk thats why
pseudo gull
same tbh
thin aurora
im here for the emotes thats why
pseudo gull
so was i, then my nitro ran out
stable oyster
It's terrible
hallow glade
unreal stump
astral tartan
@noble bloom
noble bloom
<@580729241084362771>
👋
astral tartan
Hey
noble bloom
hey
astral tartan
What now 
cyan wind
https://www.etsy.com/listing/922855720/george-russell-f1-superstar-naughty
what the
twin belfry
Many IOMTT fans would disagree about cars being on the TT, but what if more automakers decided to try and go after Mark Higgins’ record?
jagged crater
I'd like to see like a Valkyrie AMR Pro boss it
But it's contending with the bridge hump
twin belfry
I could see Porsche taking a stab at the TT, but it wouldn’t be likely.
ancient scarab
going to IoM is one of my bucket list items
ancient scarab
cams going in this morning!
cyan wind
going to IoM is one of my bucket list items
same ngl
cyan wind
ancient scarab
yeah it's a total pog my car is going to sound majestic
cyan wind
yeah it's a total pog my car is going to sound majestic
what is your car?
ancient scarab
2004 GTI 2.8L 24V VR6 6-speed
last of the good ones 🙂
i'll be power matched with a R32 now 😄
cyan wind
what's the HP on it?
river bridge
ancient scarab
what's the HP on it?
i'll be at 240HP when the job is done today
pseudo gull
https://twitter.com/TOYOTA_GR/status/1514815780470157326?s=20&t=i9UScp-24Q6mYIMg...
too late anyway
spare vigil
https://twitter.com/TOYOTA_GR/status/1514815780470157326?s=20&t=i9UScp-24Q6mYIMg...
does it still have fake vents
anyways too little too late
I'd probably buy it further down a couple decades though
get the concept car body kit and wheewwwww
tawdry badger
the purpose of the supra’s fake vents was for kits right?
so when the owner applies a kit to it, the fake vents are ready to take in airflow and cooling stuff once the plastic ones are removed
pseudo gull
the purpose of the supra’s fake vents was for kits right?
no
it’s because they wanted it to look more sporty
everyone does it, it has nothing to do with kits
spare vigil
so when the owner applies a kit to it, the *fake* vents are ready to take in air...
no it’s because they couldn’t be arsed to make a complete car but they wanted the car to look better so they came up with a bullshit reason
oh he left
fossil gulch
If I had a dollar for every time someone complained about the new Supra’s…
Even tho the old Supra is ugly af
main lark
Ikr
twin belfry
jagged crater
Ooooh that sounds different
hollow mulch
Seen these beautiful things race at the masters racing at donnington
It was yesterday and today
Took photos with my cam as well
silent sleet
Live in boston
I'm from Bergen NJ which is NYC subruba but visiting Boston for the weekend as my Dad is running the marathon
fossil gulch
I saw whichever 1 of 8 million Lamborghini huracan variations this thing is
silent sleet
Porsche 944
main lark
Noice
shut locust
river bridge
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OZYw9h_1M3o more footage
soft patio
spare vigil
that is sex
soft patio
that is sex
Which one
frigid sonnet
first one ofc
sharp nacelle
What kinda rpm, it's a Diesel
12 maybe 13 on a good day?
sharp nacelle
They take Diesels to 12?
Just 12, not 12000
jagged crater
dayum
sharp nacelle
Every 5 seconds
clever bridge
Before Top Gear did their first Car vs Public Transport Races, there was this. British Bentley gentleman racer Woolf Barnatto vs the Blue Train
pseudo gull
god that gurney nutting coupe is hot
dusk kernel
mild orchid
marble cloud
thats hot
open kayak
The steelies don't look too bad.
robust anvil
A Clubsport
twin belfry
The rims look like flattened starfishes
ancient scarab
that's awful
twin belfry
The more I look at the car, the more it looks like a cheap imitation of a BMW
twin belfry
What can you do? BMW’s become a shell of who they were
That and Mercedes
At least I still have hope in Audi and Porsche
hollow moth
Calling the tycan a turbo model was the worst thing Porsche did
Still nothing as bad as bmw
glossy merlin
for fuck's sake
open kayak
Here's some frustrating nonsense:
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-61155735
twin belfry
open kayak
Transport Minister Trudy Harrison said updating to the Highway Code will be a "major milestone in our safe introduction of self-driving vehicles".
She also claimed their use "revolutionise the way we travel, making our future journeys greener, safer and more reliable".
- BBC
At the same time, these proposals state "[...] people using self-driving cars will be allowed to watch television on built-in screens [...]" (BBC), and that they "[...] will not be responsible for crashes" (BBC).
I hope there are enough sensible people left to shoot down that idea. That's one of the stupidest drafts of legislation I have seen in my entire life, and I've seen quite a few.
twin belfry
unique sluice
I hope there are enough sensible people left to shoot down that idea. That's one...
why is it nonsense?
open kayak
It's a paradox.
To increase safety, they allow the drivers of autonomous cars to drive distracted.
unique sluice
they aren't 'drivers'
that's the entire point lol
it isn't a regulation aimed at current cars with adaptive cruise and lane keep, it's aimed at level 5 cars in the future
void pilot
**for fuck's sake**
bro they got some 32 inch screen at the back lmao
literally fit a car with a tv and made it uglier
i honestly don't know how the bmw execs looked at that car and thought that the car is fit to be seen by people
open kayak
it isn't a regulation aimed at current cars with adaptive cruise and lane keep, ...
Even then, it's not the wisest of decisions.
It's going to take a long time before a Level 5 car is even near decent.
unique sluice
and until then the legislation won't do anything
it's not stupid, it's setting the groundwork for when self driving cars actually are a thing
open kayak
Even then, so long as a car has a steering wheel and pedals, it isn't right that we should encourage people to treat driving that way.
Driving is always going to be dangerous. An object of such weight at such speed will always have the potential to do great damage.
I understand that some people want to do other things, but if you want to do other things, have someone else drive you.
Or, in the case of a Level 5 future, have someone else attentive at the wheel.
unique sluice
Or, in the case of a Level 5 future, have someone else attentive at the wheel.
that's literally not the point of level 5 autonomy
the point of level 5 is that there's no intervention or driver attention required
open kayak
On paper, absolutely.
Though, we have people like Elon Musk making the claim that Teslas are Level 5 capable, and people listen to him for whatever reason.
If that's going to continue to be the case for the next thirty years, and odds are it will be, that definition will change.
unique sluice
he can say what he wants lol, it doesn't change the fact teslas are currently rated as level 2
and nothing is close to l5
open kayak
What I mean is, I think at some point people are going to be lazy and shift down the levels. What is actually Level 3 will classify as Level 4, and so on.
We already do that. It takes no genius to see that F.S.D. Teslas are nowhere near ready, but California doesn't care.
I wouldn't be surprised if people start slapping "Level 5" on half-complete cars in the future.
Besides, when those Level 5 cars inevitably reach the market, they're going to have their flaws. It's not fair to write legislation in a way that anticipates they'll be perfect.
unique sluice
again manufacturers can slap whatever they want on the cars, they aren't the ones setting the SAE definitions or deciding whether the cars are self-driving from a regulatory perspective
they dont get to say "ok our car is fully self-driving" and the DFT or whoever accept it
open kayak
I don't understand why this even needs to be proposed, right now.
It ought to be proposed when the technology is ready.
unique sluice
because there needs to be a clear and coherent legal framework beforehand
there's no point writing legislation to keep up with technology
open kayak
This far ahead, though?
I mean, it could take decades before this is even functional.
open kayak
I can understand a new outlook on liability, but allowing the user to do whatever they want is far-fetched.
unique sluice
hands off automatic lane keeping has been possible for several years and was only legalised recently
..they specifically said that isn't the case in the article you linked
open kayak
I understand that, but it isn't a healthy mentality.
Driving can never be fool-proof. Why should we allow people to be fools?
The liability makes sense, again. There's only so much we can do in that situation.
Although, doing something should be encouraged.
unique sluice
the point is that it isn't 'driving' at l5
to the point where having human intervention is effectively irrelevant
open kayak
It's still driving. It's just that something else is doing it.
The controls are just in another's hands.
unique sluice
thats like saying riding the bus is driving
open kayak
It isn't necessary that we take the wheel from the passenger seat, although you should always be ready.
At no point should everyone be powerless in controlling what happens.
- Neither should we encourage them to be powerless.
unique sluice
it is entirely possible (and likely probable) that the controls are removed from level 5 cars
open kayak
I don't mind a Level 5 car, but a driver should have the ability to intervene, and be ready to intervene, even if the chance of failure is slim.
We're at the mercy of code, without it.
unique sluice
At no point should everyone be powerless in controlling what happens.
it's fundamentally wrong to say that if the failure rate from human intervention is higher than the failure rate from the automation
every element of automation and software has an acceptable failure rate
it's no different for self-driving cars
open kayak
Failure rate is a percentage. There's a separation between success and failure.
There is an overlap between that of people and of self-driving cars.
It's unlikely, but it is mathematically possible to succeed where the car fails.
unique sluice
Failure rate is a percentage. There's a separation between success and failure.
no it isn't..
failure rate is failures per unit time
ancient scarab
wow you'd think I walked into a mobileye conference at work
unique sluice
i.e. something like DAL A is 10-9
so there has to be fewer than 10-9 catastrophic failures of a component per operating hour
ancient scarab
failure rate is failures per unit time
MTBF or AFR?
unique sluice
DO-178B
open kayak
We can't anticipate perfection, and there should always be a sort of failsafe.
unique sluice
i've based all of my software/hardware requirements off mtbf
ancient scarab
we use AFR for client SSDs
unique sluice
wait no AFR
ancient scarab
but MTBF gets published in the white paper
we test 1000 units for 1000 hours and extrapolate
problem is, no system is perfect
unique sluice
We can't anticipate perfection, and there should always be a sort of failsafe.
there cannot always be a failsafe
ancient scarab
including the human system
unique sluice
exactly
if the rate of failure from human intervention is significantly more than what you get from an autonomous system, it doesn't make sense
open kayak
I trust science. Every time I get on track, I trust my kart isn't going to fall apart and send me into a wall, but that's because I can do something about it.
ancient scarab
yep
open kayak
Without that degree of control, however, I can't trust it.
unique sluice
but computers can't make ethical decisions
unique sluice
I trust science. Every time I get on track, I trust my kart isn't going to fall ...
that's the illusion of control
same reason why more people are scared of flying than driving
open kayak
There is control involved, at least. Some degree of control is more assuring than none.
unique sluice
having some sort of intervention system for level 5 autonomy may make drivers feel safer but it doesn't actually make it safer
not if you go off what the very widely accepted definition of l5 is
open kayak
It doesn't, in the anticipation that it will be perfect.
unique sluice
it doesn't have to be perfect
open kayak
It won't be, however. Especially in their first years, they'll be risky.
unique sluice
it just has to be better than the failure rate of intervention from human drivers
which isn't particularly hard, humans are terrible drivers
open kayak
Most are.
unique sluice
having automation which fails and kills everyone in the car every 10-9 hours is still safer than automation with controls if human intervention causes a crash every 10-8 hours
open kayak
It's safer on paper, but it isn't logical.
unique sluice
it's completely logical, it just doesn't feel that way
but then you're arguing psychology and not actual safety
people like to feel in control which is understandable, but often doesn't actually translate into safety improvements
but fundamentally the point is that you can and should be able to do other things in the car at level 5
because that's the entire point of certification at that level
it's no different to component design in any other safety-critical object
open kayak
It is, absolutely.
Until Level 5 is in practice, and improved far beyond the initial phase, we shouldn't encourage people to be careless.
Just because it exists, doesn't mean it works. That's been the problem with autonomous cars since their inception.
unique sluice
but the topic isn't whether fully autonomous cars exist
it's the legislation for when they do
there's nothing wrong with self-driving cars from a leglisative/definition perspective
open kayak
When the first car earns a Level 5 certification, we should be cautious of it. We shouldn't see the "Level 5" and immediately expect it to be flawless out of the box.
We should take the time to trust it, and at that point, we can consider the proposals.
That's the problem with the proposal I have. It's not the future outlook, because I agree we need that forethought.
- It's the fact that it's based purely on speculation, and text definitions.
unique sluice
there's nothing to suggest that should be the case, life-cycle and safety engineering is a very established field and operates on exactly the same principles
and the definitions will only become more mature and clear going forward
open kayak
We should wait for them to become clearer. Obviously, there's time for us to update the policies long before they take effect.
Early is good, but we can be a bit too early in this regard.
I think it's more important that we ease into the E.V. transition, and better adapt to the semi-autonomous capabilities before we worry about Level 5.
ancient scarab
level 5 is many, many years from now
i expect there will be an ease into it, for example, a level 5 lane on long stretches of highway
cars will need to be able to communicate with each other
then literally trains of autonomous cars can zip down that dedicated lane nose to tail
hiway 5 from sac to LA is a perfect example
open kayak
We definitely need an infrastructure to support them before they can easily work.
I saw Honda was experimenting with transponders that could send traffic and accident data far quicker than current systems, and add to the knowledge of car sensors.
In essence, allowing them to "see" around corners.
ancient scarab
there is a tremendous amount of information that can be gathered from the road
the ultimate will be inductive charging lanes
why rely on a visual sensor to determine lane placement if RFID or NFC can be embedded in the road
or reading signs to understand upcoming recommendations for speed etc
it's awful technology to rely on visual recognition for these basics
here in norcal they put yellow borders on traffic signal lights to make it easier for recognition but why do that when you can talk to the car thru the road?
fossil gulch
why rely on a visual sensor to determine lane placement if RFID or NFC can be em...
Cause redoing all roadways to do that is wayyyyyy more expensive than retrofitting existing systems and embedding anything into a road will only work in certain areas.
Cause reading RFID or NFC through 2 feet of ice and snow isn't going to work all that well
But after working with "autonomous" drones I don't trust anything that claims to be Autonomous
solemn wing
marble cloud
wrap around rear lights = always cool
tawdry badger
155 V6 Ti h o t
tawdry badger
I have never seen an Alfa on road
frosty mason
Anyone heard of cupra? I live in Australia and cupra is launching in Australia this year (i believe in July??). Not sure if cupra has been around for awhile or their a new brand.
ashen olive
its a new brand
owned by football club barcelona in spain
i think
they started the brand within the last 2-3 years i think
gritty wraith
Anyone heard of cupra? I live in Australia and cupra is launching in Australia t...
the brand of cupra has been around for a few years it is part of the VW group - seat in particular and they have recently established cupra and seat as two different manufacturers
north tree
Rip
hollow moth
That’s just Godzilla coming out of the sea
steady pendant
north tree
That’s just Godzilla coming out of the sea
Nice
So basically there's a car show in there
And i can't imagine this
Imagine that lambo
silent sleet
Going to the New York Auto Show today, be interesting what will be there
silent sleet
For the ferry across the Hudson River we just parked in the parking garage that woulda been an F1 paddock had the port imperial race went ahead a decade ago
sacred elk
Quick photos I took
pseudo gull
Anyone heard of cupra? I live in Australia and cupra is launching in Australia t...
been around for ages. used to be seat’s performance arm, and it still technically is, they just now get their own badges and vin numbers
they only make one car which isn’t a fast version of a seat, which is the formentor
fun fact about that formentor: they made a limited run of them with the turbo 5 cylinder from the rs3
frail badger
Cool
open kayak
I'll have to go next year. Finals are in the way of anything.
twin belfry
open kayak
I had no idea Radwood went. I'm bummed to have missed it.
Chances are I would have run into people from Greenwich.
frail badger
Dang are they still at motor show
open kayak
It ends tomorrow, I believe.
frail badger
Hmm so did they take videos
Is what I'm asking
Bc I have yt channel
And I could progit
Not rlly
But you know what I mean
west vector
car
ancient scarab
Some stuff from the NYC Auto Show
nice we go to the SF show annually
i spy an RS200
silent sleet
nice we go to the SF show annually
While it wasn't a full slate of manufacturers due to the end of covid it was still a lot more interesting as I'm at the age where I might get a car by myself in a few years
ancient scarab
nice
silent sleet
nice
Like after looking and getting inside the new gen BRZ and GR86 I might consider getting one a year or two after college if I have a money as they'll be enough pre-owned versions by that time
ancient scarab
that's the spirit
short marten
Hey y’all, anyone know if varta makes good batteries?
woeful creek
Okay, so I'm in Cardiff, I need a car
for about £3500
£4000 for the right car
I can't travel very far, say much beyond Birmingham, I'd ideally like a saloon, but I gotta compromise somewhere
Nothing low mileage, ideally not a diesel
I'll consider autos but manual is a safer bet
What do I buy
Oh and no red cars, and it needs a factory aux port or an easy conversion (so tape deck, or something simple like a radio swap)
hollow moth
It’s not safe to go further north
unique sluice
very valid actually
woeful creek
why cant you travel beyond birmingham?
I'm not going to pay £200 in train tickets to see a car
And waste a day of my life on a train for that matter
like it's flexible, i just wanted to give a rough guide
like, not Newcastle yk
unique sluice
and why excluding low mileage?
woeful creek
I'd rather have a car that's been driven on motorways for a commute or whatever, than someone's granddad's car that's got way too old to have 25,000 miles on it
If you need your car, you're far more likely to have taken care of it, and also other people really don't like high mileage cars so
unique sluice
that's not really the correct way to approach mileage
woeful creek
¯_(ツ)_/¯
unique sluice
there will be low-mileage cars you need to be wary of in the same way that there are high-mileage ones
woeful creek
sure
unique sluice
there's nothing inherently wrong with a 25,000 mile or 125,000 mile car, the more important thing is the logbook and FSH
i wouldn't rule out stuff which is lower
unique sluice
it's very, very common especially on private sellers
woeful creek
It's the first time I've seen it
And I'm not going to Reading if I can't even look up the MOT history
unique sluice
it's common on older/common cars because of the risk of just having people clone the plate
woeful creek
¯_(ツ)_/¯
unique sluice
It's the first time I've seen it
well it says FSH, you can ring up and ask about it
they'd probably be happy sharing the details
woeful creek
It's a no bud
unique sluice
why aux and not a bluetooth receiver?
woeful creek
because often "bluetooth" just means "hands free calling" in cars of that age
but the S40 doesn't have one of those either
at least not the like, ~2007 generation
which is the one typically in my price range
unique sluice
post-2007 they should all have aux
so that's not something i'd completely write off depending on how far you'd want to travel
what about coupes?
woeful creek
Honestly depends on the car, I’m not against small estates either, like the golf estate kind of size
unique sluice
because none of your requirements on their own are issues, but when you combine them all you're really limited on what you can get
relax even one or two of them and you suddenly get a lot more
open kayak
That's something I was mentioning, some time ago.
I think it wouldn't hurt to look at some older cars, especially enthusiast ones.
open kayak
In 2022, you'll often find them with aftermarket stereos with bluetooth support.
unique sluice
just been MOT'd and has 6 months road tax included in the price
it's north of birmingham but you're going to need to be willing to travel a bit further
hollow moth
Would stay clear of any mg cars kek
woeful creek
relax even one or two of them and you suddenly get a lot more
I’m definitely flexible on a few things
unique sluice
Would stay clear of any mg cars kek
i've got a bit of a soft spot for them
cheap as shit to start
woeful creek
This is kinda why I want someone else to hand me options I’m sorta
unique sluice
travel distance is the big one
woeful creek
Choice paralysed
unique sluice
make yourself willing to travel and you're golden
unique sluice
train?
woeful creek
I’m not going anywhere like 3 hours away by train to maybe buy a car
unique sluice
return to bham is less than £30
unique sluice
I’m not going anywhere like 3 hours away by train to *maybe* buy a car
ideally you wont be making the trip until you're pretty much sure you're going to buy it
woeful creek
Yes brum was literally inside my limit lmao
unique sluice
if you're happy to go to the birmingham area that's a good compromise
woeful creek
https://www.autotrader.co.uk/car-details/202204114544756?sort=relevance&exclude-...
Thanks
I like a Mondeo
The uh James Bond Mondeo era isn’t particularly my favourite but I need a car lol
unique sluice
woeful creek
If that’s what I get that’s what I get
unique sluice
bluetooth, leather, parking sensors
although it's a diesel
any particular reason why you dont want a diesel?
woeful creek
I just don’t like them
I prefer driving a petrol
Like it’s definitely not a hard red line but everything else has to really make sense
unique sluice
the other option is going in the opposite direction and getting something a bit different and unique
something like an mx5, hyundai coupe
although not fitting the body style requirement
tulip bramble
190 eur?
hollow moth
£1.90 / L
tulip bramble
I wonder how much Panigales go for
V4 goes for 30k usd and V2 goes for 22k
so a V4 goes almost the same as a Raptor
I dont even know how to ride a Motorcycle
twin belfry
My r6 and gt900
If I were to choose two bikes from Yamaha, I’d choose the R1 and MT09
frosty remnant
If I were to choose two bikes from Yamaha, I’d choose the R1 and MT09
MT07 is more fun imo
Both they are both very good choice
I really like the gt900
It’s a comfy travel use bike
As well as it’s balanced
frosty remnant
I spoke to the guy
He was like I plan to use it on track days
Makes sense why he would spend this much
cyan wind
around the nordschliefe 
frosty remnant
BRO
cyan wind
bro
flint garden
woeful creek
diesel also costs a fuck ton rn
this was also part of the reason, however petrol isn't exactly... cheap
twin belfry
From what I know this might be kimi
I don’t think Kimi ever did the BTCC before F1
tulip bramble
Kimi only did Rally after his F1 career back then, no other motorsports as far as I’m aware
and was in the Army before motorsport because it was mandatory iirc
cinder hatch
did nascar
zinc pike
open kayak
The GT2 RS is going to be a monster, if that's the Clubsport.
zinc pike
ikr
main lark
Looks like a beast
hollow moth
Isn’t there already a gt2 clubsport
spare vigil
deformed ansel elgort
river jolt
river bridge
lusty loom
tulip bramble
looks like something exploded at the background
twin belfry
looks like something exploded at the background
That something was DTM’s reputation
cinder hatch
pls
bright harness
That something was DTM’s reputation
After what happened in Norisring Last year
Citroën Ami
Apologies for bad image quality
cyan wind
looks like it's backwards
twin belfry
Ikr
twin belfry
open kayak
Bring it to Le Mans, Aston. You know you want to.
twin belfry
dense trellis
https://youtu.be/9L4bnLtL_sg
😩👌
lament swallow
🥶
robust anvil
Bright blue birb
open kayak
That's in beautiful condition.
spare vigil
i like it for some weird reason
twin belfry
That rear wing
north tree
mild wave
2000gt
dense trellis
That’s most definitely not a celica or 2000gt
Idk what it is
But it’s definitely not those
pseudo gull
thats not a 2000gt lmfao
clever jasper
I just remember the headlights looking like a 2000gt
But those aren't the actual glass shape
spare vigil
the body shape isnt even near it
tip: the 2000GT looks good from any angle
this does not
polar needle
hidden mist
that looks like a Nissan qashqai hasn't fully rendered
frigid sonnet
sick
marble cloud
GT3 is faster depending on the track GT2 wins if there is a lot of high speed stuff
zinc pike
GT3 is naturally aspirated
marble cloud
thnx sherlock
zinc pike
GT3 is faster depending on the track GT2 wins if there is a lot of high speed st...
no
isnt the gt2 rs outright faster everywhere?
pseudo gull
yeah
pseudo gull
Imagine the GT2<:ros:265774199774117898>
no guarantee they'll do one so dont get too excited
although i get the feeling they're bringing out as many special 992s as possible
marble cloud
the thing that I dont get is how the GT2 RS is only 40kg heavier than the GT3 RS (991.2 gen)
marble cloud
isnt the gt2 rs outright faster everywhere?
depends on the track if you have a slower track with a lot of turns the GT3 will be faster if not equal to the GT2
zinc pike
although i get the feeling they're bringing out as many special 992s as possible
yeah they just recently brought out one with the ducktail back
versed leaf
twin belfry
That car would look great as a hearse/coroner’s van
open kayak
Imagine dying, just to be put in the back of a Cherolet HHR.
main lark
Bro....
pseudo gull
yeah they just recently brought out one with the ducktail back
sport classic, yeah
makes me think they’ll crank out a ton of special 992s
pseudo gull
the thing that I dont get is how the GT2 RS is only 40kg heavier than the GT3 RS...
looots of lightweighting
open kayak
They might. We have this safari one coming out, evidently.
I guess it's worth it, though.
The future of the F-6 is uncertain. We might as well send it off with a celebration.
proud arch
faster than a real GT3 car lol
astral tartan
Imagine dying, just to be put in the back of a Cherolet HHR.
Yeah i would rather go in a Horse Carriage thank you
astral tartan
GT3 is faster depending on the track GT2 wins if there is a lot of high speed st...
But Porsche always names their cars in the reverse way
The GT3 is Slower than GT2 and The GT1 is a race car
The GT1
marble cloud
But Porsche always names their cars in the reverse way
The GT3 is Slower than GT...
I'm quite aware I've actually spoken to an engineer that worked on the GT1. I don't want to repeat myself but the GT3 can be faster than the GT2 depending on the track
astral tartan
I'm quite aware I've actually spoken to an engineer that worked on the GT1. I do...
I see
marble cloud
zinc pike
sheeeesh
astral tartan
OH MY GOD
proud arch
But Porsche always names their cars in the reverse way
The GT3 is Slower than GT...
GT classes are ranked in speed
GT1 class is faster than GT2, GT2 is faster than GT3, GT3 is faster than GT4
proud arch
GT1s are nearly prototypes
astral tartan
GT4 Cayman?
proud arch
GT2 is GTE/GTLM
proud arch
GT4 Cayman?
I was talking about the classes
proud arch
what about the GT4 cayman lol
astral tartan
Like it's slower than the Gt3
proud arch
it's slower than a GT3 car yea
marble cloud
GT4 is likely more fun than the GT3
I dont understand how the GT4 is basically the same weight as a GT3 which should be a physically larger car
if were talking Porsches that is
jagged crater
This article's description is so like... Obvious
Like they're going Hybrid, wdym but why?
zinc pike
b u t w h y
river bridge
b u t w h y
What could they possibly gain by looking at a competitor’s car ?!?!??!?!
zinc pike
What could they possibly gain by looking at a competitor’s car ?!?!??!?!
epic batteries
sees Ferrari
looks at batteries
yoink
jagged crater
... Because they want to gather a feel for how a hybrid with an electric front axle works?
Because that's what they're doing?
river bridge
Because that's what they're doing?
yes
jagged crater
Well I'm just confused coz I thought it'd be obvious
river bridge
Well I'm just confused coz I thought it'd be obvious
no you're right
open kayak
Definitely.
I'm sure they'll use it as a basis for whatever system they want to make.
Of course, they want to be sure that whatever they make will challenge that of Ferrari's.
Companies have done this for quite a while. It's a sign of respect and determined competition.
Ferrari had their own Ford GT in the early 2000s. Mercedes had bought a McLaren F1 to develop the CLK GTR. The list goes on.
jagged crater
... Lamborghini dropped out
proud arch
... Lamborghini dropped out
of VW?
jagged crater
No as in Lamborghini dropped out of the pussyfooted 2021 engine change which aston Martin and Porsche both were seriously into
They said they didn't have the assets to be able to come at it seriously
And also Lamborghini switched hands from audi to Porsche sub ownership
river bridge
astral tartan
_sees Ferrari_
_looks at batteries_
_yoink_
Yeet
zinc pike
use VW tech
They do
zinc pike
Ferrari had their own Ford GT in the early 2000s. Mercedes had bought a McLaren ...
GM had the v8 from a 458 for developing the Corvette
marble cloud
they bought several cars including the 458
open kayak
Surely the NSX was one.
When the C8 was announced, I was certain it would be like it.
marble cloud
the new NSX?
open kayak
Yeah, the 2017-onward model.
open kayak
Maybe not. I know G.M.'s marketing goal was to create something akin to the 458, but that was affordable and true to the Corvette.
Which, of course, is why it's unsurprising they bought one for research.
As for the rest, I'm not too sure.
I guess it wouldn't be too outlandish to assume it was a Lamborghini of sorts.
marble cloud
its really obvious how they tried to make a european supercar
even the styling is just poorly executed european styling
open kayak
Yeah.
marble cloud
such an incoherent mess with no real design language
complete identity crisis
like wth is all of this?
open kayak
I hated the rear end. I've gotten used to it, but it still isn't pretty.
marble cloud
its as if they let different ppl design the different parts and then glued them all together
I cant find a single angle that works
open kayak
The front half is the best, for the car. The rear is where it falls apart.
marble cloud
this thing had a better thought out design language
open kayak
The current Corvette design language wasn't really going to work with European, mid-engined proportions.
open kayak
this thing had a better thought out design language
I'm hurt. I like the Gumpert a lot.
marble cloud
cool car, ugly as hell tho
open kayak
Goofy name, goofy look.
spare vigil
the C8 corvette just looks like shit
the C7 looked so good
then we get this hot wheels looking ass
astral tartan
I cant find a single angle that works
The cuts on the front just Disturb me
marble cloud
its a mess
marble cloud
the C7 looked so good
agreed
I am not a fan of american cars but the C7 has a clear design language that is consistent throughout the car and everything fits
with this new abominations nothing fits
spare vigil
i dont like the grill there and it's a bit too high for me
more like this
the best corvette is obviously
the C7 gets second place
marble cloud
my boss has a C2 with a 427 in that marina blue color
robust anvil
My favourite corvettes is in this order (from favourite to least favourite)
C6
C7
C5
C4
C2
C3
C1
C8
astral tartan
My favourite corvettes is in this order (from favourite to least favourite)
C6
C...
For me it's
C6
C3
C7
C5
C8
C2
C1
C4
jagged crater
Now we're on the subject
The 600 cubic inch/9.83 Litre, 90°V12 Corvette C4 ZR-12
An insane, overreaction to the viper
safe sail
astral tartan
Hey it's the car from Carjackers a show on a channel called History tv18 damn they still have it 😂
astral tartan
This bad boi
twin belfry
proud arch
https://youtu.be/w1Xe4f2-X1o
woah that sounds great
can't wait to drive it in iracing, hopefully coming soon
open kayak
I have to be honest, I'm not too sure that I like the gradient grilles.
lost mica
marble cloud
I have to be honest, I'm not too sure that I like the gradient grilles.
can you imagine having to clean it? lol
open kayak
Handwashing is probably pushing it, already.
zinc pike
unlike the new corvette Ferrari still makes beautiful cars
debatable, the F8 wasn't really pretty
not a huge fan of the sf90 stradale's rear either
But i love the 296
spare vigil
it looks like a shitty mix of a McLaren and a Bugatti from the top ngl
zinc pike
it looks like a shitty mix of a McLaren and a Bugatti from the top ngl
meh, its not too bad
Just like pidgy said i think the grills are a bit, much
spare vigil
it really does not look good to me
marble cloud
I dont find that it borrows at all. its very unique in its exterior design
spare vigil
too small at the front imo
zinc pike
I dont find that it borrows at all. its very unique in its exterior design
I agree
spare vigil
too overdone too
marble cloud
overdone? I have to disagree
perhaps the rear diffuser
but the design is clean and purposeful
very well executed
zinc pike
too overdone too
marble cloud
the roof is the lest appealing to me
zinc pike
T h i s is overdone
marble cloud
couldve posted the C8