I forgot when it cuts to the shot of the footwell. It's somewhere further in.
#cars-and-bikes
cyan wind
No gloves, no helmet, no racing suit, but got slip ons. True racing legend.
open kayak
I didn't even know there was a video of that.
I heard stories about him driving the F40, but never saw it.
open kayak
#ot | driving-lessons
twin belfry
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RF3tWa6BLUA
Hopefully we’re not causing too much trouble with this Ferrari-Best Motoring post battle
river bridge
Nah, we’re improving the server
twin belfry
Nah, we’re improving the server
Either that or hyping the server’s fellow tifosi for the season
jagged crater
Also hey Motegi
river bridge
Either that or hyping the server’s fellow tifosi for the season
The tifosi need to be proud of the road going heritage ferrari possess
twin belfry
twin belfry
The tifosi need to be proud of the road going heritage ferrari possess
Si 🇮🇹
twin belfry
~~does the MC12 count~~
Let’s just count it as the Enzo’s better looking sister
twin belfry
twin belfry
Favourite road going ferrari?
F40 hands down
twin belfry
Holy crap. Never seen that best motoring race before
jagged crater
I have to say... For me the only F40 I like is the LM IMSA ones
The wheelarches
are the reason
twin belfry
What about the ones used in the BPR Global GT series
twin belfry
https://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/large/645-3.jpg
Damn that looks so good
jagged crater
I think that imsa image gets the best grasp on the arches so it might be forced perspective
jagged crater
Also... I'm a little more pre-disposed to the F50 GT
twin belfry
The F50 GT is one hell of a car
river bridge
The f50 gt is still the fastest closed fender Ferrari around fiorano
It’s record may come under fire from the f255 but it’s been a hell of a run
(F255 is Ferrari’s lemans hypercar)
jagged crater
Bruh the F50 GT is a dream for Ferrari
It's like the Ferrari 90's approach to a Valkyrie
Or T50
Get an F1 engine... Silhouette, go
twin belfry
Bellissimo
jagged crater
The think weighed 860kg dry
river bridge
I believe the lmh car will be run around fiorano in June
river bridge
Get an F1 engine... Silhouette, go
The f50 was already constructed similar to a lemans prototype
Carbon fiber monocoque with the engine being a stressed member of the chassis
jagged crater
I'm aware with like the stressed engine, ye
But like... Wasn't the F50 heavier than the F40?
twin belfry
But like... Wasn't the F50 heavier than the F40?
The F50 was also slower
river bridge
3000lbs each
open kayak
As much as I love the F40, I think the F50 wins when it comes to the cool factor.
That almost direct connection between the F50's engine and the Formula 1 engine is fantastic.
twin belfry
There is something so cool about the F50 that makes it stand out
river bridge
Tmk the f50 could lap certain tracks quicker then the f40, but the f40 is much easier to extract performance out of with an amateur driver
However if you have someone like Jean alesi drive both cars the f50 will be a bit quicker
No doubt the f40 is quicker on the straights though
river bridge
Both cars are not as hard to drive as people think
The f40 is very predictable and easy to get out of a slide
jagged crater
open kayak
I think it's the misconception of turbo lag. At least from sim experience, I don't think it's as bad as people make it out to be.
twin belfry
twin belfry
Sweet dreams
river bridge
Sweet dreams
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=QLXPr45dveY French motoring
river bridge
I wish he drove the f430 scuderia
restive moth
Hello 👋
My wheels are on back order for the pst 3 months so don’t mind the 💩 fitment
midnight parcel
tawdry badger
My wheels are on back order for the pst 3 months so don’t mind the 💩 fitment
just get spacers maybe if that's an option, although I may not know if your getting new wheels for looks or for the fitment
also nice golf
restive moth
just get spacers maybe if that's an option, although I may not know if your get...
Both
I’ve got Rotiform RSE 19x8.5 45 offset coming in
They’ll add another 18.6mm poke so it’ll be snug fitment on the rear and perfect on the front
Those wheels are out of stock in the states as well and idk why it’s taking so long for that exact specs to be made
Then I’m adding 2 aero discs to the front and putting some sick patterns in
And I gotta wait for my wheels before I install lowering springs
dense trellis
Likely gonna get some old beater bike and fix it up with my dad this summer
He’s like a motorcycle master
He’s taken apart rust buckets with broken engines and turned them into practically new bikes
dense trellis
potent trout
I saw a dude with the number plate audir8 on an a5
valid thicket
geez how cool is this one!!! the Ferrari Enzo...legend has it Schumacher gave inputs for the development
inner wadi
Geez Luiz how flippin wicked is that broski
brave comet
I saw a dude with the number plate audir8 on an a5
My top 5 dream cars
- Porsche 911 turbo
- Triumph stag
- Mclaren p1
- Mercedes AMG 6x6
- Land rover series 1
I don't want the series one to drive. I have other big plans for it
hearty trench
My dream car
Any porsche 911 made after 2000
neon nacelle
My Top 5 dream cars
- Nissan S15 Autech with the full aero kit
- Honda S2000 Type S
- Porsche Carrera GT
- Pagani Huayra Roadster
- Aston Martin One-77
twin belfry
My Top 5:
- Nissan Skyline R32 GTR
- Honda NSX Type R (NA2)
- Mercedes 190E Evo II
- Holden Torana
- Ferrari F40
clever jasper
My top 5:
-Lotus Exos 125
-HSV Ute
-Blacked out, low profile Beamer
-Lancia 037
-Lancia Stratos
river bridge
geez how cool is this one!!! the Ferrari Enzo...legend has it Schumacher gave in...
that's not a rumor, this was the first car that the modern scuderia ferrari f1 team was involved directly in the development of
valid thicket
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dq1ijPWY5ZY
Yeahhhh this indeed was true
pseudo gull
same way ayrton senna had big inputs on the original nsx
nova cave
nova cave
ok sorry
cyan wind
no problem
nova cave
I previously thought virtual cars were allowed 
open kayak
Two Deltas at last year's Greenwich, I guess.
nova cave
Two Deltas at last year's Greenwich, I guess.
is it only a coincidence the black Lancia had "wrc" on their plates, or was it intended?
open kayak
I think it was intended. This is in the U.S., so the European plates aren't really functional.
nova cave
I think it was intended. This is in the U.S., so the European plates aren't real...
Ah make sense
vapid blaze
interesting, i think mine would be:
- Ferrari F40
- Porsche Carrera GT
- Porsche Carrera 911 RSR 2.8
- Audi RS7 Sportback
- Lamborghini Urus
you may be wondering "out of all lamborghinis why an urus?" but like, i love SUVs and i definitely want to have one in my dream garage
tbh, any of these SUVs would do:
-Lamborghini Urus
-Bentley Bentayga
-Rolls-Royce Cullinan
-Alfa Romeo Stelvio
-Maserati Levante
-Aston Martin DBX
-Cadillac Escalade
-Range Rover Vogue
-Mercedes-Benz GLC 63 S
but the Urus is my favorite out of all of them
nova cave
tbh, any of these SUVs would do:
-Lamborghini Urus
-Bentley Bentayga
-Rolls-Royc...
How bout Porsche Macan or Taycan?
vapid blaze
the Taycan for me is closer to smth like a Panamera (aesthetically), but the Macan is a good one too
nova cave
the Taycan for me is closer to smth like a Panamera (aesthetically), but the Mac...
Hard to disagree with that
Macan looks more beefy
vapid blaze
i see
vapid blaze
all good dude
i was gonna justify my point then you corrected it and i was like "oh nvm lmao"
nova cave
sorry for making it a hassle for you man
vapid blaze
no worries
nova cave
nice
swift rampart
cursed supra
warm root
cursed supra
fk
i cant unsee that
illl never be able to look at a supra the same now
swift rampart
scenic cobalt
cursed supra
WHY
stark ibex
ae86 too
these things use to be in the 4 digits now they are 30K and over initial D really ruined these prices huh
stark ibex
My Top 5 dream cars
1. Nissan S15 Autech with the full aero kit
2. Honda S2000 T...
thats more like it
you have some taste G dawg
my top 5:
- Ferrari F12 berlinetta
- Porsche GT3 922
- Mercedes AMG GT black series
- Lexus LFA
- R35 nismo (can't believe i forgot about this one)
rain vortex
d
river bridge
1: Ferrari F50
2: Sorcery NSX NA2
3: Corvette C6rs
4: Ferrari F355
5: Dodge Viper Srt10 Coupe
stark ibex
- Lexus LFa
river bridge
6: Porsche 996 Gt3
stark ibex
and ummmm
river bridge
stark ibex
- R35 nismo (can't believe i forgot about this one)
there is probably way more that i just forgot
cyan wind
- Nissan R32
- Toyota AE86
- Nissan Silvia s13
- Acura NSX
- Ferrari 458 Italia
stark ibex
1. Nissan R32
2. Toyota AE86
3. Nissan Silvia s13
4. Acura NSX
5. Ferrari 458 It...
R32 is based
cyan wind
these things use to be in the 4 digits now they are 30K and over initial D reall...
manafacturing also stopped so alot more rarer
stark ibex
manafacturing also stopped so alot more rarer
yup
cyan wind
R32 is based
r33 is great but doesn't hit the same
stark ibex
r33 is great but doesn't hit the same
nahhh
r33 is the most underrated
you know whats crazy
the GTST version of the R33 is even more overrated than the GTR version itself
twin belfry
I’d go for an R33 over an R34
stark ibex
I’d go for an R33 over an R34
that would be a humble decision
with the R34 you're gonna have to drive slow and use your fuel in the worst way possible because JDM fan boys are gonna crowd the street asking to take a picture with your 34
twin belfry
It’s a shame what 12 year olds can do. Instead of acknowledging the R34 for its accomplishments in racing, they decided to acknowledge it for roll racing and the FNF franchise
Oh wait, they’re 12 year olds, of course they wouldn’t know about its accomplishments in the JGTC
cyan wind
maturing is liking the cars that you didn't like when you were younger
stark ibex
it would be better if they discovered the 34 through initial D
they won't rice the cars up in the future but instead
they'll keep it nice
twin belfry
it would be better if they discovered the 34 through initial D
That or best motoring
stark ibex
and drive it well
stark ibex
That or best motoring
yeah
stark ibex
maturing is liking the cars that you didn't like when you were younger
legit lol
cyan wind
honestly
stark ibex
i use to shit on euroDM claiming it was for rich salty millionaires (back in my JDM fanboy times and you guessed it, i was 12)
and look where i am now
kissing the toes of the engineers that made these euroDM cars possible
twin belfry
Used to loathe American muscle when I was still a JDM stan, but now I like em. One of my faves is the 1970 Ford Maverick
cyan wind
if you asked me if i wanted a peugoet 106 like 5 years ago i would've told you to fuck off
now i think they're pretty banging
stark ibex
i kinda hate their new logo lowkey
stark ibex
peugoet 306
my favorite model
twin belfry
Peugeot 406 STW
cyan wind
my favorite model
honestly was a great car
now i want one, kinda ironic my mum had to scrap it a few years back
stark ibex
honestly was a great car
its cheap
and you can rally that shit
would be a good first car for a motorsports enthusiast
you can time attack
rally
legit anything
when its first cars
euroDM old hatches are the best choice
cheap
fun
some are reliable
cyan wind
init
tawdry badger
I would have that for all my live
cyan wind
nah
stark ibex
yeah legit
when it comes to stock 306 is my fav
when it comes to rally spec 206 is my fav
cyan wind
i like the 306 the most but i could definitely start to love the 106
stark ibex
who doesn't love that small car
cyan wind
i love low rev red lining
if that's what it is
fucking hell
can get them for cheap too
simple lantern
Desktop and mobile wallpaper
ancient scarab
love the mood
open kayak
I've known about Shelby's unusual collaborations, but Toyota was one I never expected.
This car is beautiful.
The paintwork is just lovely.
Shelby's blue across the front, Toyota's red accenting the side.
I especially like how the other two wheel locks are red.
ancient scarab
yes
the lines on these are really nice, you don't realize how beautiful they are until you see one in person
I've seen the convertible in person
stunning
river bridge
astral tartan
Bro drove 114k km in a freaking FB rx7 
unreal stump
Ok
sour bronze
2. Porsche GT3 922
992*
unique sluice
yeah and another £4,000 a year in maintenance
sour bronze
Lmao srry
ancient scarab
facts
brave comet
Fuck the stag I want this now
glossy merlin
reminder that this exists https://www.ducati.com/us/en/e-bike/futa
twin belfry
I'm not too sure about the name Ducati chose for the bike
twin belfry
Don't.
glossy merlin
not sure how it makes sense but go with it i guess
twin belfry
That was not what I was expecting
glossy merlin
the good ending™️
twin belfry
soft patio
jagged crater
The top secret cars bruh
astral tartan
Guys meet Bob
frigid sonnet
why what why
frigid sonnet
warm root
https://tenor.com/view/theres-more-to-you-than-that-batman-christian-bale-gif-94...
i have another one
frigid sonnet
vestal wagon
Which one?
vestal wagon
https://tenor.com/view/does-it-come-in-black-batman-christian-bale-black-gif-898...
Agreeed
jagged crater
The charger
jagged crater
Step out and stand up from a squat
devout peak
But eh
If i have a high school reunion i wont go there
It's either im working abroad or just to busy with something else
i don't even think they do reunions here
They just let us graduate and fuck off to college
jagged crater
Yeah neither, I wouldn't go coz school sucked
brave comet
I know that's not right. But they don't look half bad tbh
brave comet
Which one?
None. I'm getting the little tike out of the shed
vestal wagon
Lol
small oasis
Which one?
Urus
frigid sonnet
Which one?
batmobile
void pilot
Which one?
Thrust SSC
cyan wind
Which one?
dodge charger 100%
neon nacelle
Top Secret cars look sooo goooodddddd
warm root
I know that's not right. But they don't look half bad tbh
yea the r 34 looks fine but the supra just doesnt look good
wraith peakBOT
Congrats @warm root, you're now on lap 5
warm root
Which one?
depends on who i get as class mates
i still have to go to high school but prolly the urus
tawdry badger
slim nest
vestal wagon
dodge charger 100%
Agreed
sharp nacelle
Guys meet **Bob**
bob the the lambovette
ancient scarab
I'd show up in the GTI because it says "im a car guy but i do not have a very small penis" unlike supercars do
south solar
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/857501533368090629/926917826009255956/u...
Looks like a game
jagged crater
I'd show up in the GTI because it says "im a car guy but i do not have a very sm...
Now, forgive my speculation, but that sounds like a man who might indeed have a very small penis
ancient scarab
Now, forgive my speculation, but that sounds like a man who might indeed have a ...
if you insist
slim nest
Looks like a game
Yep it's GTA5
steady pendant
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/857501533368090629/926917826009255956/u...
what graphics mod are you using
slim nest
what graphics mod are you using
Natural Vision Evolved
steady pendant
mmm okay tq
frosty remnant
twin belfry
1uz
astral tartan
Ah the "Thing"
zinc pike
open kayak
I see a hint of Diablo in it.
cinder hatch
it looks massive
river bridge
V12
I’m struggling to figure out why people don’t want an na v12 paired to a hybrid system
frigid sonnet
I’m struggling to figure out why people don’t want an na v12 paired to a hybrid ...
im just more inclined to V12
not plug-in hybrids
its alright tho
V12 plug-ins
river bridge
im just more inclined to V12
the plugins imo don't compromise the experience of the na v12 unlike a turbo
the laferrari uses one because luca de montozemolo and machionne didn't want a turbocharged v12
frigid sonnet
the plugins imo don't compromise the experience of the na v12 unlike a turbo
we have to see that
this will be similar to sian tech
river bridge
this will be similar to sian tech
"The technology is different, it's a completely new engine, a completely new drivetrain, a new battery, everything is completely new. There's nothing out of the Sián or out of the Aventador [in the next flagship]," he said."https://www.autoblog.com/2021/07/09/lamborghinis-aventador-replacement-will-receive-a-new-v12-engine/?guccounter=1&guce_referrer=aHR0cHM6Ly93d3cuZ29vZ2xlLmNvbS8&guce_referrer_sig=AQAAAJEmxfRaP_pKMxMA1zLoLmZMmZSjuawamq7HB4R-_dxG1-pHLAryKeOrKaYvZNtSANfNtjN2YQuldYDV5eJRyuybi2akPmWz6wceNnaDFUuf_Kud5yEWyYErQTnpKKNZriccpCQBSD9MhfulHI13FHzynkIVpgaWufJxLcrRyvjz
the supercapacitors weren't generating the desired power
river bridge
so the 2021 one was the last V12
last current gen v12, the na v12 in this is a brand new unit
frigid sonnet
right
river bridge
last time they changed the v12 was from the murcielago sv to the first gen aventador
jagged crater
V12 plug-ins
What's the problem tho
sharp nacelle
not plug in noooo
Plug in is a great solution
sharp nacelle
solution to what?
Making the cars more efficient and better for the future
frigid sonnet
seeing that way ya
sharp nacelle
But it also still keeps the emotion of the v12
sharp nacelle
hybrid system?
Hybrid that can work independent from the engine
So you can drive on complete electric
And charge the car without using the engine
sharp nacelle
the electric system
They can run together or separately
So the car will be even quicker
With the electric motor
sharp nacelle
Np
frigid sonnet
any disadvantage tho?
sharp nacelle
Both of my families cars are plug in hybrids
frigid sonnet
which ones
jagged crater
any disadvantage tho?
The disadvantage of Hybrids? Weight and space
The advantage if you're Porsche? 100mpg V8
frigid sonnet
Thanks for that
jagged crater
For example the Aston Martin Valkyrie is a Hybrid
I'd love to know what that does to the efficiency for a 6.5L 11,000rpm V12
river bridge
I'd love to know what that does to the efficiency for a 6.5L 11,000rpm V12
More torque lower down
jagged crater
Well yes
river bridge
Powerband becomes wider
jagged crater
But what that does for emissions and MPG
river bridge
May have a slight improvement
jagged crater
I would assume a fairly significant one but not insane like the Panameras of course
vapid blaze
:(
minor otter
Fr tho Mitsubishi had the worst glow down in the history of cars
It’s up there with Lancia tbh
elder wyvern
wow
hollow moth
this will be similar to sian tech
Sian was a shitbox with less power generated by the electric motor the electric motor from a Prius
It’s was just a small motor in the gearbox
Lambo simply can’t do that for the next gen v12 flagship because it is need electric motors to compete with the v8 engined supercars
Even still as those cars get hybrid systems the v12 just doesn’t make sense now sadly
river bridge
Even still as those cars get hybrid systems the v12 just doesn’t make sense now ...
See Lamborghini usually doesn’t care about weight that much
Just remember, they have no plans to kill the v12 even into the 2030s
dense trellis
Hmm
Plug in hybrid supercar
Feels so wrong
But that’s what the future holds, isnt it
balmy dock
Spotted this beauty while at a local fair
outer wedge
Spotted this beauty while at a local fair
seems like u referring to that lady on the right 🤨
balmy dock
seems like u referring to that lady on the right 🤨
Nope
balmy dock
kinda sus but the car is a beauty ngl
It’s a 2022 Chevrolet Corvette
river bridge
Feels so wrong
idk, as long as it has an na v12 its fine for me
open kayak
Let's take what we can get.
river bridge
Let's take what we can get.
well they're putting the second v12 refresh since the first aventador in the successor
the question is what its gonna sound like
open kayak
It's better than making it electric, no?
open kayak
I know.
open kayak
I hope we can see a good one, someday.
open kayak
A manual-hybrid would make an amazing pair with a good engine.
river bridge
mazda in the patents at least is working on an fr 3 rotor sports car with a transaxle
open kayak
I'm curious how that would be. I don't think we've ever had that combination.
river bridge
It wouldn't be hybrid, would it?
the battery is positioned behind the seat
open kayak
Oh, I know we can certainly get naturally-aspirated hybrids to work, and we can definitely have a lightweight hybrid if we try.
A rotary hybrid, I mean. I don't think that's ever happened.
I don't suppose the technology would change that much.
river bridge
mazda's been experimenting with several configurations, hydrogen rotaries as well
river bridge
I don't suppose the technology would change that much.
direct injection, one of the things missing from the last gen of rotary sports cars
yes its possib;e
open kayak
That's good news.
river bridge
That's good news.
as for ferrari, they've started work on their new v12
this iirc is supposed to be a hybrid assist na v12
open kayak
We need to get this ball rolling if we're going to beat the all-electric mandates governments are putting out.
river bridge
ferrari's been developing f167 since 2017 or prior
open kayak
Hopefully it can change some people's minds.
river bridge
not sure about displacement but its anywhere from 4-6.0 liters
open kayak
I also hope the development on synthetic fuels goes well.
river bridge
power outputs have been estimated as high as 1000hp
id imagine that's the 6.0 liter unit though
open kayak
It sucks that we're in this situation.
We have the ability to make efficient engines, and even better alternatives in the form of hydrogen vehicles.
Yet still, everyone is adamant on electric.
river bridge
We have the ability to make efficient engines, and even better alternatives in t...
hydrogen also contributes to greenhouse gases
the main issue with ev's is we don't know how recycling them will work out in 10 years time
its certainly better then ice but there's no true zero emmision solution at the moment
river bridge
Yet still, everyone is adamant on electric.
another thing i'd reccomend is shrinking the size of cars rather then enlarging them
ferrari actually predicted that they'd get smaller instead of moving to crossovers in 2007, though unfortunately they were wrong
they made a concept study of an ultra lightweight phev hypercar that eventually grew in size and became the laferrari
open kayak
That would definitely help.
It's going to take a while before the average buyer wants a small car again, sadly.
Hopefully these fuel prices start that shift back to city cars.
river bridge
It's going to take a while before the average buyer wants a small car again, sad...
issue is that crossovers and suv's alone were able to nullify any progress of evs or phevs in 2020 emmissions wise
open kayak
I wish people would downsize.
river bridge
it is alarming that we aren't using less resource intensive downsized cars
open kayak
I imagine it will take a combination of higher fuel prices and denser urban centers before the city car can have a revival.
I want it to. The city car should have never faded into obscurity, at least in the U.S.
river bridge
I want it to. The city car should have never faded into obscurity, at least in t...
well im in the us and i can tell you cars are getting bigger day by day
open kayak
No, I know. I live here too.
My mother drives a Santa Fe and wonders why she spends so much at the pump.
We're not in car seats anymore. My brother and I drive ourselves. She doesn't need all of the space.
- And besides, you can fit a lot in a small car with the right approach.
I've gone on a two-person skiing trip in my little Kia.
Mind you, I hardly used the trunk.
It's a combination of "big car = safe car" and this false perception of utility that allows the crossover and S.U.V. market to thrive as much as it has.
My pessimistic guess is that it's going to take a catastrophe to change that trend, whether it's a spike in fuel prices much like the Recesssion, or a controversy like the one that killed the North American Suzuki Samurai.
river bridge
My pessimistic guess is that it's going to take a catastrophe to change that tre...
a spike in fuel prices may kill sports cars with it
the hope for me is that downsized cars may get more manufacturers to make light sports cars again
river bridge
We need a new Elise.
i feel like the emira is too heavy for an average lotus imo
plus its not an entirely new car
open kayak
i feel like the emira is too heavy for an average lotus imo
It is. New Lotuses are straying away from the original design philosophy.
neon nacelle
It is. New Lotuses are straying away from the original design philosophy.
still a very pretty car tho
neon nacelle
600 miles from home and a spot a vehicle that i sold 11y ago
my dad once parked near a car that was almost identical to the one he had when I was little
same model, same colour
the licence plate was 1 letter off
that was it
ancient scarab
my dad once parked near a car that was almost identical to the one he had when I...
this was the actual pickup
my stickers still on the window
river bridge
jagged crater
I hope this new Lambo gets the exhaust right
river bridge
I hope this new Lambo gets the exhaust right
oh this isn't the aventador successor being teased iirc
river bridge
I hope this new Lambo gets the exhaust right
also, it may sound very different, this new v12 shares nothing in common with the v12 in the aventador
jagged crater
Oh wow that's a surprise
jagged crater
I mean it's not like the L359 can't sound good, because with some longer, different tubes it sounds great in the Essenza SCV12
river bridge
I mean it's not like the L359 can't sound good, because with some longer, differ...
that's a track only machine though
i usually find the sound of the ferrari v12s more attractive
jagged crater
Oh yeah definitely, or even Cosworth's outings
It's just having pipes close together or put into one to give it some extra layers
river bridge
It's just having pipes close together or put into one to give it some extra laye...
ferrari's intake technology is also superior, they have a 20 year old engine that rivals the power output of the huayra r's v12 in the road going daytona sp3
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they've been using the same architechture from the v12, and that wasn't designed entirely from the ground up
the first f140v12
jagged crater
I find that approach to building alot cooler too
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the latest f140
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I find that approach to building alot cooler too
the v12's design is borrowed from the maserati quattroporte's v8 with extra cylinders
jagged crater
Damn I didn't realise it was that way around
Funny it went back in a Maserati then
river bridge
yep
river bridge
Funny it went back in a Maserati then
ferrari has a new v12 in development now given that the f140 power unit is 20 years old as of 2022
jagged crater
I guess it makes sense because you'd need to integrate a Hybrid system better, I find it funny that Lamborghini/VW would give their V12 only one preverbial generation
Though if they go electric front axle, then having the engine the right way around would be nice
river bridge
I guess it makes sense because you'd need to integrate a Hybrid system better, I...
well the aventador is the second generation lamborghini v12
jagged crater
I know
But they only used it for one platform, albeit with 11 years
As opposed to Ferrari with like... 8 models?
9?
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9?
somewhere around that, they introduced the f140 earlier though
what's interesting is tha the current aventador v12 has multipoint injection
as opposed to direct injection
jagged crater
I like seeing an engine revised and revised until it's good, albeit Ferrari did that wrongly with the Tipo.041
Multipoint is good
Having Direct and Port is good
river bridge
i think with lamborghini its just the intake technology that they're behind
then again ferrari has honed the technology to perfection
jagged crater
Being GOATed in F1 during the start of development certainly helps
Also I'd love to see engines get a bit more smaller and revvy with the electric components coming in, the N/A bois that is
river bridge
Also I'd love to see engines get a bit more smaller and revvy with the electric ...
that's whats happening
ferrari's new power unit is smaller but more rev happy
im hearing some ludicrous power outputs from the engine not even paired with the hybrid system
jagged crater
Hearing from where?
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sources closer to the factory, ferrari themselves announced f167 back in 2017
jagged crater
Also yeah having say twin port injectors, then a pre-chamber direct, in like a 5.4L guise to do like 10,500rpm
O
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Also yeah having say twin port injectors, then a pre-chamber direct, in like a 5...
the engine is supposed to be anywhere from 4.0 liters to 6.0 liters
jagged crater
Inb4 it's like a 296 and they go the 120°V12 route
That'd be bliss
I wonder if they're building this new one to out-do Cosworth's endeavours
river bridge
That'd be bliss
not sure about that, but im hearing the goal is 10,000rpm
jagged crater
Makes sense
river bridge
power output is probably combined 1000hp the more i think of it, i don't see a 4.0 liter v12 doing that
jagged crater
No... But allowing for a wider displacement range could
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6.0 liter with no constraints architecture wise could do it
jagged crater
Well Cozzie can make a 6.5 do 1,000 on it's own so I wouldn't be surprised
Especially if the newest F140's are making 830
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id imagine ferrari could make a more reliable and smaller yet just as powerful v12 as cosworth could
the one thing holding f140 back is its age
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Italian supercar?
f140s are pretty strong
the valk on the other hand
rebuild every 20-50k miles?
jagged crater
100,000km or 120,000km I can't remember which
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100,000km or 120,000km I can't remember which
62k
jagged crater
So 62,000 to 75,000 miles
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ferraris over time have gotten more reliable
jagged crater
Way better than AMG's One tho
river bridge
the f50's v12 is considered bulletproof
however servicing it can be an issue being a structural member of the chassis
river bridge
Way better than AMG's One tho
the amg one is under a ton of stress
jagged crater
That has an interval of 35,000mi
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the valkyrie like the f50 also has the engine as a stressed member
river bridge
That has an interval of 35,000mi
its significantly more complex then f1 engines were in the mid 1990s
jagged crater
yes but the Valkyrie is better in every way
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~~yes but the Valkyrie is better in every way~~
i would have the valkyrie over the amg one
river bridge
Yeah... I personally think most wouls
the valkyrie also exists, they're still having issues testing the project one
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Valkyrie is a Hybrid <:schumi:299551297076461578>
well the amg project one is as well, imo the best all around hypercar of the 2010s still belongs to the laferrari
jagged crater
Well that's my point
The AMG One tried very hard to be like... A Hybrid, F1 engined car
Then the Valkyrie just said nah les make a semi evolution of a 1992 Group C car
summer frigate
Now I don’t know much about cars but does anyone else love the Mazda MX-5
Idk if that’s weird or not
But yeah
open kayak
I love it.
I always say this:
The MX-5 is to GT racing what the kart is to Formula racing.
neon nacelle
I always say this:
The MX-5 is to GT racing what the kart is to Formula racing.
the Civic too
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twin belfry
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<:sadmattia:680041189600133137>
Not too sure about the twin turbos
neon nacelle
imo it would be better if they take the turbos out and tune it to about 500hp, sure itll be slower but it'll be a better driver's car
river bridge
imo it would be better if they take the turbos out and tune it to about 500hp, s...
my personal wish would be a detuned and slightly downsized valkyrie v12
perhaps 9,000rpm and 700hp
woeful creek
imo it would be better if they take the turbos out and tune it to about 500hp, s...
That is called the "V8 Vantage" and you can buy one from £120,900
Well, it still has the turbos, but it is 500 hp
river bridge
That is called the "V8 Vantage" and you can buy one from £120,900
I think he just wants an older generation v12 vantage
pseudo gull
https://apple.news/Ax8FBmd-MRhCcoDRleUUKng
vantage f1 edition with halford’s carbon bits slapped on
i actually quite like it though
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vantage f1 edition with halford’s carbon bits slapped on
I’d rather have it then the f1 edition tbh
pseudo gull
oh same
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None of them compete with the late 2000s v12 vantage though
pseudo gull
my favourite from the current vantage family is the v12 speedster though
jagged crater
my personal wish would be a detuned and slightly downsized valkyrie v12
Bro that'd be fire but probably real hard packaging wise
pseudo gull
i mean you can’t really just downsize an engine either
they wouldn’t spend all that money on developing a new engine just for that one car
woeful creek
they're not spending the money to keep making the V12 that actually exists
jagged crater
Also if a Vantage could get the Cozzie then the DBS probably would've
twin surge
Does anybody remember the Audi Avus Quattro?
ancient scarab
yes
river bridge
What about the Bentley?
Led to the veyron
main lark
ikr
cyan wind
https://preview.redd.it/2jk6qujf1tv41.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=90733...
that is vile
pseudo gull
https://preview.redd.it/2jk6qujf1tv41.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=90733...
so glad it didn’t get made
just an uglier vw nardo
ancient scarab
that's nasty
twin belfry
open kayak
My first track-day might be next weekend.
I'm anxious, because I need to get new tires as soon as possible.
cyan wind
what car are you taking
open kayak
My Kia.
It's all I have.
The course is short, though. Most of it is turns.
What it lacks in power, it makes up for in surprisingly capable handling.
With performance road tires, it should be even better in that regard.
cyan wind
what model kia
open kayak
It's a Forte S, from 2017.
It has around 140 horsepower, at least at the engine, and a gross weight of roughly 2,800 pounds/1,270 kilograms.
Sadly, it's paired with a six-speed auto, although I shift sequentially when driving for fun.
open kayak
It's no weapon, but it's a track day. There's bound to be some other economy cars there.
Besides, I'm more interested in seeing how well I can keep up.
neon nacelle
I think he just wants an older generation v12 vantage
this ^
wraith peakBOT
Congrats @neon nacelle, you're now on lap 10
cinder hatch
It's no weapon, but it's a track day. There's bound to be some other economy car...
slow car fast
small roost
Hello
open kayak
slow car fast
Exactly.
radiant forum
.
strong bane
That's a sick Mini
open kayak
I'm not sure what it is, but something tells me we're going to see the birth of a new class of car.
I've been looking at some mules and concepts, starting back with the Huracan Sterrato concept.
This was back when this boom in love for cars from the Seventies and Eighties was really starting. Of course, in 2022, it's full-swing.
Car shows for that era are probably more common than ever before, and the prices are up just as much.
broken bloom
open kayak
I don't.
But, I was going to mention that part of it is this boom in love for rally cars, particularly safari cars.
I can't think of safari builds and the Lancia Delta being more popular than it is now.
I think manufacturers are taking notice. We've seen the offroad 911 mule, and the like.
Just last week, Prodrive announced this, the Hunter:
It's essentially a road-going version of their Dakar racer.
More importantly, what caught my eye was the slogan: "The world's first all-terrain hypercar."
At this same time, Glickenhaus has been cooking up something much like it, the SCG 008:
My question is whether or not this is going to be a thing in the coming years.
- The all-terrain supercar.
river bridge
But, I was going to mention that part of it is this boom in love for rally cars,...
idk, on the other hand if you look at wrc that class is looking like its shriveling up day by day
while this love for safari type builds has increased i would like to see more action in the top levels of rally like group a as opposed to group b
open kayak
I'm unsure if we'll see that happen. The cost is obscene.
At this point, there's more to be gained in the consumer market.
It's sad that we've had to come to that point, because I very well believe that what wins on Sunday, sells on Monday.
Until the FIA can get those costs down, however, we'll have to stick to the market alone.
queen tartan
That's a sick Mini
lol i posted this on tik tok
pseudo gull
agile crag
sideways 😐 damn
there
thats better
^My dad when he used to race Miatas in like 2004-2006
dug them up
open kayak
Spec Miata?
ancient scarab
where's that at? clearly USA.
open kayak
It's not Road Atlanta, is it?
ancient scarab
in the dino
open kayak
The first picture looks like it was taken on the hill.
ancient scarab
never been there
agile crag
Not too sure where it is taken as in 2006 my pit crew pass is me in a blanket as a baby when I'm 2 but we did race in the midwest a lot, we live in south-east michigan so anywhere within a thousand miles is a good possibility
and I also have the 2000,2001,2002 US GP posters hanging, framed in my basement
but it was a 95 mx5 I think
sold it around 10 years ago because I was about 8 and my little sister was 5 and we needed a family car and his racing days were long over
we still do have a pair of worn down slicks that we use as stairs in our backyard to hop the fence with
we also have so many stories of funny accidents in the car
raccoon got into it and decided to go to the bathroom in the passenger seat, and I still have the steering wheel I think in my room somewhere
it was sold for spare parts I'm pretty sure, I'm sure I could track down the owner and see where it is
open kayak
I'm still trying to do what I can before I graduate.
I'm trying to get my car ready for Saturday, and so far it's a nightmare.
agile crag
my kid's an adult and gone, it's time for me to go racing
not even joking, if you live in a big state I would say doing casual weekend karting, or trying to buy like a 10k miata and get some friends together to do a pit crew for you
you won't need tire changes or anything but you know it always helps to have somebody there if you need to pit for something
agile crag
ok so the first one is 2004 second one is like 2006
blissful bone
inspection
blissful bone
At this same time, Glickenhaus has been cooking up something much like it, the S...
you sure this isn't just a souped up 2018 Ford GT with off-road tyres
open kayak
It looks a lot like it.
weary cave
Lamborghini countach
final ibex
inspection
New Williams looking nice
zinc pike
Murcielago
Reventon
Which is based off the Murcielago
But looks a lot like the Aventador that came after it
Now with the Sian that's based off the Aventador
And the Aventador replacement here
new Aventador replacement would share a lot of design queues from the Sian
astral tartan
And the countach which is Basically all modern Lamborghinins
ancient scarab
not even joking, if you live in a big state I would say doing casual weekend kar...
I kart regularly
I'm in NorCal
silk forum
jagged crater
I hope the engine sounds good on the road exhaust
agile crag
I'm in NorCal
Very nice
pseudo gull
alpina
queen tartan
c30=best small car
spare vigil
c30=best small car
you have clearly never heard of the Nissan Figaro
clever bridge
"Suspect is driving a silver BMW!"
frosty mason
Ferrari SUV 👀👀👀
spare vigil
no
spare vigil
the SUV is the worst thing to have ever come to this world
astral tartan
twin belfry
the SUV is the worst thing to have ever come to this world
The only time SUV’s were cool was when Mitsubishi achieved success in the Paris Dakar Rally with the Pajero
torn portal
anyone home ? i need some suggestions
I need to add brake to this RX7 but idk which one to use :/
jagged crater
astral tartan
Back when suv was
Sport
Utility
Vehicle
And not some 500hp 0-60 in seconds egg
twin belfry
spare vigil
that is sexy
jagged crater
JUDD time
pseudo gull
The only time SUV’s were cool was when Mitsubishi achieved success in the Paris ...
nah there’s a lot of good suvs
lots of better cars, sure, but there have been genuinely good ones
plus if it gives brands the funds to make cool cars, i’m all for it
hollow moth
- The all-terrain supercar.
It’s called a tank chief
expensive
literally wants to kill you
annoying to drive in a town
impractical
great talking point with friends
powerful
Basically a super car already
zinc pike
A V12 roma
This is a testbed for a new v12 gt car
Not necessarily a V12 roma
Pretty interesting
Could be the 812 successor
hollow moth
Another supercar just what the world needed
Kid you not a new unique and special one gets released every week
zinc pike
Lmao
river bridge
Not necessarily a V12 roma
it is the successor
f167
excited for the new v12
gonna finally replace the v12 first introduced in the enzo as the f140b
posted int he chat a while back
zinc pike
oh??
zinc pike
gonna finally replace the v12 first introduced in the enzo as the f140b
So this is a completely new V12?
river bridge
So this is a completely new V12?
yep
river bridge
hybrid assisted so it should be around for a while
tmk they've been testing it for a very long time with a variety of displacements from 4.0-6.0 liters
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lamborghini will be using a new na v12 as well
zinc pike
yep im aware
river bridge
What's the final one
we don't know what displacement exactly it'll use, the laferrari successor is what i'm most interested in
tmk all we know its mid engined and v12 powered
thats it
river bridge
the laferrari is 9 years old now
zinc pike
Yeah
spare vigil
https://carbuzz.com/news/spied-ferrari-testing-roma-with-a-v12-engine
FRONT ENGINE REAR WHEEL DRIVE V12 YOOOOOO
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812 successor
well its offsale now so there inevitably has to be a replacement
i believe the architechture the roma is based on is modular
queen tartan
you have clearly never heard of the Nissan Figaro
c30=best small car
ember void
based fiat multipla
spare vigil
c30=best small car
figaro>c30
patent tulip
kar
silent zephyr
minor otter
patent tulip
may you please not
Fast kar
wraith peakBOT
Congrats @north tree, you're now on lap 20
north tree
Speakers
Everytime I went into a car show it's like a need for speed or ls car meet experience
Ohh yeah. The vespas faggios
open kayak
This gold Ford Explorer is scaring me.
north tree
Looks like about to steal this from Fortune Valley day (not real gold it's just a wrapped ig)
clever bridge
This V16 powered concept car by Cadillac
jagged crater
It's a fake Florida plate, with UK character order
open kayak
Oh, I see it now.
jagged crater
It's not legal but
jagged crater
It's a Palm Coast Florida plate, eith British numbers
... A plate backing that doesn't exist as Palm Coast isn't a county
soft patio
open kayak
Oh no.
paper steppe
anyways
dense trellis
💀💀💀
sturdy gull
A Lamborghini parked next to us a few days ago
tawdry badger
fallen glen
Went into a car show
philippines?
shadow stream
build done
normal siren
shadow stream
Yes
crimson roost
build done
zamn
main lark
Noice
devout peak
Looks like about to steal this from Fortune Valley day (not real gold it's just ...
The wheels though would make that black ngl
robust anvil
GT
quartz pulsar
what a beauty
lotus made an suv 
the same company that made the coolest electric car, made an uncool electric suv
steady pendant
what is that
it looks like a urus for some reason
just the grills look slightly different
same with the rear
quartz pulsar
same with the rear
the rear gives off a very porsche vibe
quartz pulsar
I actually like the design of it
not a fan of the front
steady pendant
its just so
quartz pulsar
it ain't a lotus
steady pendant
almost looks like they took ideas from so many other suvs
and put it all on the car
astral tartan
build done
Nice
quartz pulsar
almost looks like they took ideas from so many other suvs
fr
atomic pumice
lotus alive??
quartz pulsar
lotus alive??
alive-ish, they're owned by geely now
open kayak
Unless that is the lightest S.U.V. on the market, it probably shouldn't be a Lotus.
river bridge
Unless that is the lightest S.U.V. on the market, it probably shouldn't be a Lot...
its very heavy
open kayak
TopGear suggests it might be, but I'm uncertain.
river bridge
if its even an suv it shouldn't be a lotus
open kayak
I gave up on Geely Lotus a while ago, sadly.
Once they started to make the Evora poshy, I knew that old Lotus was gone.
river bridge
I gave up on Geely Lotus a while ago, sadly.
at this point i don't think it's "surviving"
open kayak
The name is surviving, but the philosophy is dead.
Lotus is a philosophy, so I say Lotus is dead.
river bridge
The name is surviving, but the philosophy is dead.
i feel like there's gonna be another "saleen incident"
open kayak
What do you mean?
river bridge
What do you mean?
saleen was purchased by another shady group
made an suv and they wrestled control away from steve saleen himself
open kayak
I never knew about that. I didn't even know they made a Saleen S.U.V., honestly.
That's definitely possible, though.
river bridge
coincidentally it was a chinese owned company but i don't think geely is as bad on that front
from what i can tell they seem reliable
very eerily similar expansion plans though
open kayak
Geely sells quite a few rebadges already, so I wouldn't give them a benefit of the doubt.
river bridge
well ill give them ire as well
river bridge
Geely sells quite a few rebadges already, so I wouldn't give them a benefit of t...
its just sad seeing companies sell out to these coorporations that'll do nothing
open kayak
They say a company needs to grow to be successful, but I disagree.
So long as it is sustainable, that's something.
Had I run Lotus, I'd keep the company in my power so long as there was some profit.
With a nameplate so important, I'd shut it down before someone could taint it.
- Of course, first shuffling off the employees to new companies before then. I don't want anyone to be without a job.
The point is, I'd much rather run a short-lived and struggling company with a powerful legacy, rather than a long-lived and successful company devoid of character.
river bridge
They say a company needs to grow to be successful, but I disagree.
I’d argue noble has been successful
They’ve sustained it for years
open kayak
I think a company should at least be financially sustainable, but more importantly, leave a lasting cultural impact.
An accountant will say that's not successful, but I think it is successful.
I hope Noble can keep it up for years to come.
tawdry badger
Does anyone have access to the donut media discord
open kayak
I didn't even know they had one.
tawdry badger
Does anyone have access to the donut media discord
you need to join their underground to enter to server so
you actually need to pay to enter the discord
quartz pulsar
Unless that is the lightest S.U.V. on the market, it probably shouldn't be a Lot...
it's electric, so definitely weighs over 2 tonnes
quartz pulsar
I hope Noble can keep it up for years to come.
the m500 looks promising
ember void
any other cars that arent a suv coming out
pseudo gull
not really
speaking of suvs
the new maserati crossover just looks like a ford puma
robust anvil
I hate the ford puma suv with every ounce of my being
Reasons include
IT STOLE THE NAME FROM A COOL SPORT COMPACT AND MADE IT A BORING SUV
It’s and SUV
It’s ugly
I don’t get why people by crossovers
cyan wind
that ford puma looks foul