cars-and-bikes

[tulip bramble]

but might also give an asshole impression

[fossil gulch]

Like why is that a thing

[tulip bramble]

I also dont know

The Honda ADV750 looks so ass

[fossil gulch]

But why Honda

[tulip bramble]

Errrr not really Honda…

[sick pike]

Oxymoron

[tulip bramble]

Yamaha did a better job for a fast scooter

[fossil gulch]

This is probably the closest thing to a scooter SUV

Same roll over risk too

[sick pike]

Oh my god

[tulip bramble]

BMW Fever dream what the fuuuuck

[sick pike]

Hear me out

[tulip bramble]

wait I have a better thing for SUV scooter

Idk if its a scooter but hol on

[sick pike]

Also wtf ninja 400 cheaper than versys 300

[tulip bramble]

alright nvm

I imagined the Honda Goldwing with a scooter look

forgot that it looks more like a cruiser

[tulip bramble]

Get a Ninja 400 and put sidebags on it

or a Z400

[sick pike]

I don't like Sportbike seating positions

Nor do I like nakeds

[tulip bramble]

aww

get a TRK

Benelli

[fossil gulch]

Ngl, didn’t realize benelli made things other than shotguns

[sick pike]

Wait what

[tulip bramble]

LOL

[sick pike]

Are they the same company or two companies with the same name

[tulip bramble]

They made bikes as a partner for their shotguns

[tulip bramble]

different

[sick pike]

I don't think there's any dealer selling benellis here

[fossil gulch]

They’re different

[tulip bramble]

I hope

[tulip bramble]

thats a bummer

[fossil gulch]

Thé bike one is owned by some Chinese conglomerate

[tulip bramble]

Benelli’s quite great with giving out beginner bikes

[sick pike]

There are a few

[tulip bramble]

usually below 650cc

[fossil gulch]

Royal Enfield and CF moto exist and they make basically the same style of bike

[sick pike]

But I feel like with it being an uncommon brand parts are more expensive

[tulip bramble]

yepp

yeah parts would prolly be harder to come across

[sick pike]

RE Himalayan is in the back of my mind Incase the versys 300 plan fails

I don't know if it being slow is gonna be a good or a bad thing

[fossil gulch]

I feel, like benelli would probably be easy to get parts for online

A verseys 300 is still gonna be slow

[tulip bramble]

why not get a 650 Vtol?

But iirc 650 Versys is quite pricey

and Kawi is the only mainstream bike brand I know of who makes adv bikes at the 600 range

[sick pike]

I don't like the looks of the 650 and above

[tulip bramble]

Ahh I see

[sick pike]

Tenere 700 is close enough

[fossil gulch]

My dads trying to convince me to buy one for my next bike but I have my heart set on a tenere 700 or vstrom

[sick pike]

Atleast it sounds nice

[fossil gulch]

Next summer…

[tulip bramble]

I’m 16 with no job

[fossil gulch]

It’s not a bad bike at all, just slow

[sick pike]

Suzuki's look so damn ugly though

[tulip bramble]

even with a job, minimum wage is fucked here

[sick pike]

It's a given for a 300

[tulip bramble]

so I’ll just wait till I graduate and get a stable job

[fossil gulch]

The secret is debt lmao

[tulip bramble]

[fossil gulch]

Partly joking but I’ll probably finance a new bike next summer once I’m out of uni

[tulip bramble]

I’d prefer not to be raided by the bank once every year

[sick pike]

Or or
I get a crf300🤔

[tulip bramble]

I’ll prolly do Marine Engineering

[fossil gulch]

Why not the 500X?

[tulip bramble]

so I’ll do maritime shit in College

[sick pike]

Bit outta the budget

[tulip bramble]

but I’ll remain a basic fuck the next 2 years

[tulip bramble]

earn a little more

it’ll be worth it imo

also gives you time to look into more options

[fossil gulch]

Filipino mafia claims another lol

[tulip bramble]

[sick pike]

Well it's not me buying the bike anyways but I still wanna set a budget

[tulip bramble]

Aeronautics was my first choice

[sick pike]

I don't wanna start off on a 500 too

[tulip bramble]

but yeah being a seaman seems more fun

[sick pike]

I think I wanna do something related to engineering as well

Probably mechanical

[tulip bramble]

but that means, If I get a bike, I’ll prolly be gone long enough to not ride it

[fossil gulch]

Those Honda 500s are really beginner friendly tho, that’s what all the schools here use for their road lessons

Mechanical is a pretty neat field Ngl

[sick pike]

I just want a job that pays well so I can finance the stupid shit I wanna do in life

[tulip bramble]

Does the Honda Rebel have the potatopotato sound?

same with the Kawi Vulcan?

[sick pike]

Thump?

[fossil gulch]

No but it has the potato look

[sick pike]

Kartoffel

[tulip bramble]

Oh man

[fossil gulch]

The Vulcan is such an absurd bike, it’s just a ninja engine jammed into a cruiser frame

[tulip bramble]

I was hooked with the Rebel and the Vulcan with the expecations of the V2 sound

[fossil gulch]

Rebels an amazing starter bike tho

[sick pike]

I've seen a Vulcan once I think

[tulip bramble]

Yupp

[sick pike]

It looked like a Harley but it had Kawi badging

[fossil gulch]

Its actually the first bike I ever rode

If you’re tall tho they can kinda suck since the clutch cover sticks out of the frame and forces your knee at an angle

[sick pike]

Good thing I'm vertically challenged

[fossil gulch]

Looks kinda good with crash bars Ngl

[sick pike]

Thinking of putting engine guards when I get a bike

[fossil gulch]

Depends on the bike

Some of them you’re better off getting frame guards/axel sliders…

Or full on crash bars if you go verseys

[sick pike]

Givi ones are cheaper than OEM

OEM accessories are expensive

Damn

[dense trellis]

Saw an og viper last night

[cyan wind]

heat

[cyan wind]

i would

they'll save your ass when you eventually drop it

[dense trellis]

I’m getting crashbars for my wr soon

This summer I plan to do some small trips with my dad

[marsh gazelle]

niceeeee

[tulip bramble]

@cyan wind saw a potato potato Harley Sportster 1200 earlier

veeeery hot

it has a nice colour combo as well

Black everything with Gold harley decals on the tank

[tawdry badger]

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/electric/cute-carice-tc2-two-seater-convertible-netherlands

[cyan wind]

i kinda like that

[fathom rose]

Hot, absolute widow maker

Everytime I get into the driver seat of one I get intimidated

[rare hill]

pretty excited, just ordered a 2023 GR86 only problem is i am on a waiting list between 5 to 8 months😬

[cyan wind]

https://www.reddit.com/r/motorcycle/comments/13lif7a/my_gf_and_is_garage_is_getting_a_little_outta/ what a garage

Hers: Street Triple 765R LRH, Daytona 675R, Daytona 765R Moto2. Mine: 959 Panigale Corse, YZF-R3. We've only gotten into motorcycles 2 years ago and the garage is now super full

[twin belfry]

My god, this dude’s girlfriend has some taste

[tulip bramble]

keeping it real with the triumphs

[oblique knot]

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/first-look/new-bmw-concept-touring-coupe-glorious-z4-based-breadvan

[lusty beacon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b1ku6rk26_Y

[cyan wind]

@tulip bramble spotted a few bikes n cars:

• ninja H2
• ninja 1000sx iirc
• couple of touring bikes
• africa twin
• had a mk4 supra behind me in traffic, crazy feeling lmao

[cyan wind]

also saw a versys 650 in person, they're massive

[tulip bramble]

Lucky spot on the H2

I have yet to see an H2

[torn knoll]

What car is that again

[oblique knot]

The Z4 (G29)-based Concept Touring Coupe

[tawdry badger]

https://www.supercars.net/blog/supercars-with-incredible-six-cylinder-engines/

[cyan wind]

sweet

love diablo's

[twin belfry]

The Hakosuka!

[clear pawn]

It’s a boxy bitch

[pseudo gull]

based garage

[fossil gulch]

Girl basically bought the same motorcycle three times lmao

[twin belfry]

https://youtu.be/hSyDNtvrn-U

Well this is interesting

Jackie Ding using an M2 for time attacks

[pseudo gull]

worth it for the daytona/street triple

[obtuse plover]

Sexy

[oblique knot]

https://carbuzz.com/news/speedkores-chrysler-pacifica-coming-with-1500-hp-demon-v8-and-carbon-bodywork

https://fxtwitter.com/astonmartin/status/1660556244946505730?s=20

[cyan wind]

went to a dealership with my dad so he can sort out his new bike, the street triples upclose are so damn nice

depending on my situation in a few years I might get one

[pseudo gull]

they’re such nice bikes

i’m hoping to get a daytona soonish

[cyan wind]

yeah I was thinking a versys 650 but tbh if I'm only doing small commutes and an 80 mile ride to my dads, a striple probably wouldn't be as bad

[twin belfry]

I wanna see this against Bisimoto’s Honda Odyssey

[twin belfry]

https://youtu.be/3tNB8t2i9oo

[fossil gulch]

If I a dollar for every 18 year old I know on discord that wants to/bought a new speed triple, I’d have two bucks.

Which isn’t much but it’s strange that it’s happened twice

[cyan wind]

lmfao

i seriously doubt i would, but if the opportunity rises...

[tulip bramble]

@cyan wind finally saw the local Z1k upclose

its a fucking beaut

and as expected, its sounds angry

[cyan wind]

based

it's a great bike

[jagged crater]

what a 1200rr tho?

[cyan wind]

eh?

[jagged crater]

OH IT IS THE SPEED TRIPLE

I was getting it confused with their like... 2.5 i3 bike

[fossil gulch]

Ngl, thé students at my uni have a pretty good taste in bikes

There’s typically a few more R6’s and ninja 650-1000’s

Because people here think those are perfect starter bikes lmao

*ignore that I was gonna buy a 650 if all the ones in my budget weren’t clapped out to oblivion

[cyan wind]

tbh i like all of them

i'd probs take the cbx myself

[cyan wind]

starting on an 1000 sounds like a death wish lmao

[fossil gulch]

Meh, they don’t weight all that much more than a 650 and realistically, if you can’t throttle control a 1000, you won’t be able to on a 650 either

The problem with 1000’s is that they let you get into trouble way too easily

But if you’re a good boy that Obeys the law

[cyan wind]

yeah and that comes down to a big if, if you can handle a 650 off the bat then yeah for sure

[fossil gulch]

I’d honestly prefer a ninja 1000 or any of the other sport/sport touring bikes over a 650cc super sport

[cyan wind]

i would too

some of the sports touring kawasaki's look super nice

[sick pike]

some of the sports touring kawasaki's look super nice
FTFY

[tulip bramble]

this gives me an idea about starting on a 1000

[cyan wind]

based

[fossil gulch]

It’s still not that intelligent of an idea tho, it’s just a death wish if you stay away from super sports

[fossil gulch]

Also depends on the type of bike. A lighter 1000cc cruiser is probably one of the better starter bikes if you’re on the big & tall or ne of the spectrum

[ionic folio]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/QaPP_ggN2tc

[cyan wind]

not really related to cars or bikes is that

[keen kraken]

Would a tuner car ever have a chance of beating a Le mans racer

[jagged crater]

https://youtu.be/8jwJ21VJKpM

https://youtu.be/zqaiSDXXqEg

[tulip bramble]

Ehhh I guess if you count some time attack builds as tuners

I guess theres somewhat a slim chance of it beating an LMP2 or GTE at tracks

but yeah veeery slim chance

[cyan wind]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZBhKaWIYS0=

ngl the xr is actually kinda nice

[twin belfry]

Ooooh

[jagged crater]

Sounds like a Plane on startup, granted this misfires are doing alot of that

[dawn mist]

🇸🇪🇺🇲

🇮🇹🇩🇪🇬🇧

🇩🇪

[obtuse plover]

Sex

[twin belfry]

https://youtu.be/oqF6SCSVxU8

[sick pike]

https://twitter.com/Zero2Turbo/status/1662085923088093186?t=bnKHtOowKi_TWWk-how3pQ&s=19

Zero2Turbo (@Zero2Turbo)

Powertune Australia just revealed that their Toyota GR Yaris is pushing out a ridiculous 740 hp (552 kW).

And yes it still uses the 1.6-litre 3-cylinder.

Surely that will not last?

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Twitter · May 26, 2023, 1:18 PM

[twin belfry]

Oh damn….

Y’know I can see this engine being used in a Formula Regional Chassis

[sick pike]

This'll probably happen though

[cyan wind]

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1661850377241735168 your ears have been blessed

Formula 1 (@F1)

The @astonmartin Safety Car testing on track 🤩

Race weekend loading ⬛️⬛️⬛️⬛️⬜️

#MonacoGP #F1

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15640

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Twitter · May 25, 2023, 9:43 PM

[obtuse plover]

The f12 is so undeniably hot istg

[orchid stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/always-have-been-always-will-be-tracy-jordan-30rock-forever-and-ever-now-and-forever-gif-21884305

https://tenor.com/view/ferrari-gif-9506131

[vapid furnace]

one looks good and one looks like piss

[obtuse plover]

I fucking exploded

I can send an up-close of the wheels too

[twin belfry]

Woah, an E-Type

[charred abyss]

Oh wow, that's sick

[ionic dirge]

Work

[obtuse plover]

That is so fucking cool

I wish I worked somewhere exciting 😭

[ionic dirge]

Ye it’s quite exciting

[ionic dirge]

I think in total we have 46 cars

[obtuse plover]

Shiiit nice

The only good thing about being where I live is the car and bike scene

[ionic dirge]

A mix of e-types, listers, an xjr-9, courage c65, ligier lmp3, an old f3 car and a few more

[obtuse plover]

We have a mix of the oldest cars you’ll ever see and some that are modded as fuck lmao

[twin belfry]

Can’t forget about the XJR-9

[obtuse plover]

God damn

[ionic dirge]

Nice where u from if u don’t mind me asking

[ionic dirge]

Certainly can’t

[obtuse plover]

I’m from Italy, living in England at the moment though

Soon moving out to Dubai hopefully

[ionic dirge]

Nice I might be out there working at end of the year not sure yet

[charred abyss]

Damn, what do you do?

[ionic dirge]

I work in historic motorsport

For a team

[charred abyss]

Ohhh nayce nayce

[ionic dirge]

Yeah

Out to france in 4 weeks

Le Mans classic

[charred abyss]

Ohhh sick, is that after the actual Le Mans?

[ionic dirge]

Yeah end of June start of July

[charred abyss]

IDK much about Le Mans timing other than it's soon because we've been rushing to get some Bentley parts out + painted to get them sent to there in time for the race lol

[ionic dirge]

Yeah

[charred abyss]

Are you an engineer for those cars?

[ionic dirge]

Mechanic

[charred abyss]

Ohhh interesting

[ionic dirge]

But it’s all tied in really

Can end up doing anything

[obtuse plover]

Give me a second I’ll find a picture of my dads classic car

[charred abyss]

I'd love to be shipped out to places like France and stuff for work

[ionic dirge]

Alr

[obtuse plover]

Built in 1904, wooden wheels and all that 😭

[ionic dirge]

Yeah spending the summer in Europe pretty much

[ionic dirge]

Damn ok ok

[charred abyss]

There's only one car I really want to spot at some point roaming about and that's a Singer DLS

[ionic dirge]

Nice

[charred abyss]

I've built lots of parts for it, but never seen one complete

And apparently they're fucking beautiful in person

[ionic dirge]

Yeah what is it u do then for work?

[charred abyss]

Composite trim/assembly

[ionic dirge]

Nice

[charred abyss]

Get to see individual components for some cool stuff, but never the completed things unless customers send one over :/

Some lass at McLaren told me they might send an Artura over because of the work I do for it...still holding hope for that 😂

[ionic dirge]

Ye we almost had an xjr-12 come in this year but the customer decided not to buy it in the end

[ionic dirge]

Haha ur getting ur leg pulled there

[obtuse plover]

Right here we are

[charred abyss]

Dayuum, that's sick!

[ionic dirge]

Really is a classic haha

[obtuse plover]

This wasn’t too long ago, we had to take it on the road for a couple hours for a rally

[charred abyss]

Lmao that looks so small and fun

[ionic dirge]

He bought a Porsche 934/5 instead

$800k

[charred abyss]

Some people have too much money, wow

[ionic dirge]

One of 10 so he got a really good deal

[obtuse plover]

😭

[obtuse plover]

It costs so much to fix though, in the event anything breaks

[charred abyss]

Some guy bought a Singer DLS(£2M), decided he didn't like the design he picked and so just straight up ordered another one instead...THAT IS 5 MILLION QUID?!

[ionic dirge]

Haha

When u have money that’s what u can do

[charred abyss]

Can only imagine, is there anywhere that even stocks those parts or is it all custom supplied?

[twin belfry]

Lovely

[obtuse plover]

All custom lmao

[charred abyss]

Goals in life is to just do that without even thinking about the cost 😂

[ionic dirge]

Haha

[charred abyss]

Christ

[obtuse plover]

Pretty much nowhere sells the wheel nuts and wheels etc

[charred abyss]

Do the wheels often have to be replaced? being wooden

[ionic dirge]

Not surprised haha

[obtuse plover]

We replaced them regularly yeah, depends how often we’re taking her out on the road

And the road types we’re on, sometimes you get stones that dislodge the wheel or hit it at a wrong angle

[ionic dirge]

Here’s a lister me and my dad built

[charred abyss]

Is it all country roads with potholes and shit?

[obtuse plover]

That mentally hurts me when we have to replace for reasons like that 😭

[charred abyss]

Is that at SPA?

[ionic dirge]

Indeed

Spa classic from the other week

[charred abyss]

Can any of the parts be homemade to save costs?

[obtuse plover]

Yes most of the time, but if he’s taking it up for a rally then the roads are usually smoother there

[charred abyss]

Sounds like a bit of a bank burner to fix shit

[obtuse plover]

Probably, but none of us are that skilled 💀

[ionic dirge]

Never to late to learn

[charred abyss]

Ahh understandable, does sound pretty sick to own though!

[charred abyss]

That is true

[ionic dirge]

But I learnt everyhting from a young age growing up in motorsport

[obtuse plover]

My grandfather has made parts for it in the past I believe, but that’s it I think

He’s going to his first Grand Prix with me this year, at the age of 80, and his excitement is so pure 😭

[obtuse plover]

Ah yeah that does help a lot

[ionic dirge]

Which one

[charred abyss]

Silverstone?

[obtuse plover]

It is 😭

Hungarian

[ionic dirge]

Nice

I get free padock passes to moto gp every year at Silverstone

Which no amount of money can buy haha

[charred abyss]

I was meant to get VIP tickets to the British GP last year but...yeah

That fell through

[obtuse plover]

Anyway I’ve got my job ready for this summer, fixing this shit show going on that is my mothers car 💀

Friend helped me work out what we need to do—now it’s just doing it 😭

[charred abyss]

What car does she have?

Wait what the fuck, I'm just reading all the things it needs

Fucking hell

[charred abyss]

At that point, just get a new engine 😂

[obtuse plover]

Mitsubishi intercooler turbo 2800

[charred abyss]

Jesus

[obtuse plover]

😭

[charred abyss]

First word I read was "possibly head" and knew it was a stinker

[obtuse plover]

She just got the gearbox replaced too

But hey, at least it’ll keep me busy lmao

[obtuse plover]

Shiiit nice

[charred abyss]

Lmao busy is an understatement

[obtuse plover]

I’ve always wanted to go to a motogp race

[obtuse plover]

😭

[charred abyss]

I need to watch that, MotoGP sounds really good

[cyan wind]

i can recommend motogp

can't remember when the next race is though

[ionic dirge]

I’ll probably get told off for posting this in here but oh well

[twin belfry]

It is

[cyan wind]

nah you're fine, silverstone?

[ionic dirge]

Yeah

I get free padock passes every year

Gonna try get free vip ones this year tho

Not sure yet

[twin belfry]

https://youtu.be/O0HKSHYdgXY 2 stroke V3

[obtuse plover]

It is amazing

[twin belfry]

The V3 engine just sounds godly on this NS500

[charred abyss]

I need to get into it tbf, not really had a chance to get into many other motorsports other than F1

[twin belfry]

It’s never too late

[obtuse plover]

I watch speedway, world super bikes, BSB (British superbikes) too

Love them all lmao

[ionic dirge]

I’ve been to every form of motorbike race except Isle of Man and world super bikes

I try to go to speedway every year at Cardiff but not been in a few years

[twin belfry]

https://youtu.be/xI849gVQanw Meanwhile in MotoAmerica

Superbikes on the daytona bankings

[obtuse plover]

Yeah I’ve always wanted to go

[ionic dirge]

It’s really good

[cyan wind]

wow fair play, i'm hoping in the future i see silverstone and IOMTT

[obtuse plover]

I have a friend and he does motorbike stunts etc but it’s all for fun locally lmao

[charred abyss]

If my dads house purchase in Silverstone went to plan, I would've had the chance to see more of these racing events to get into it but sadly it didn't......

[obtuse plover]

Anyone watch formula drift?

I fucking love that

[ionic dirge]

Nah

[charred abyss]

Used to be fairly interested in it

[ionic dirge]

Not a fan of drifting

[ionic dirge]

Damn

[twin belfry]

I’m more of a D1 Grand Prix kinda guy

[charred abyss]

Yeah...would've got free tickets & discounts to races and shit

[obtuse plover]

Mmm I still haven’t looked into that 😭

[charred abyss]

(Because of noise pollution)

[obtuse plover]

You just reminded me

I’ll have a look later

[twin belfry]

https://youtu.be/g-lUej2X7Gk

[ionic dirge]

Yeah

[twin belfry]

Don’t forget the videos with those D1 drift cars going time attack racing I recommended you

[obtuse plover]

I have added it to my watchlist lmao

[twin belfry]

👍

[obtuse plover]

Alright alright

Thank you

[twin belfry]

No problem

[charred abyss]

Sucks but oh well

Still need to start watching more Formula's in my spare time

[twin belfry]

https://youtu.be/MCbakSInjx0

[twin belfry]

https://youtu.be/6Jdiq7tKkZ8 I wish there were more full length races of the European F2 championship rather than Duke Video throwing in short clips of it

The only other full length European F2 race I remember is the 1984 Silverstone round

[obtuse plover]

You watch f2 or 3?

[charred abyss]

Maybe there's uploads elsewhere

[charred abyss]

Sadly not

I would've watched the sprint today but...sleep

[obtuse plover]

Ah I’d recommend it

[obtuse plover]

😭

[twin belfry]

Yup. Well, at least there are plenty of Japanese F2 races to watch

[charred abyss]

I got to sleep at like 8am so missed it unfortunately. Maybe tomorrow

[obtuse plover]

I had an early night yesterday, surprise surprise, so I was ready 😭

[charred abyss]

😂 yeah but that requires planning ahead

Live life in the moment, regret it in the moment

[obtuse plover]

10:30pm, I think that’s a new record 😂

[obtuse plover]

Wise words

[charred abyss]

That's toooo early

I like being up at nights, more productive imo

[obtuse plover]

I know lmao, usually I’m up until about 4am

Cricket wore me out though

[charred abyss]

Same, unless I am working......when I'm only up until 2am

Which is really bad buuuuut oh well

[charred abyss]

You know you're posh when you do cricket 😂

[obtuse plover]

I also have a match at 9:30am tomorrow, but it’s an away game over two hours from my place

[obtuse plover]

😭

[charred abyss]

Don't have to worry about matches if you're not athletic and don't do any sports 🤔

Big brain move

[obtuse plover]

I am athletic but not intelligent in the majority of subjects lmao

[twin belfry]

I wonder if we should just move to F1gen since we’ve gone off the topic of cars

[obtuse plover]

I just have a bad memory so I fail everything 😭

[charred abyss]

I'm just not athletic or intelligent. I've got the full set of nothingness

[obtuse plover]

Hot

[charred abyss]

TBF, school means little in the real world

[obtuse plover]

Back to the sexy jag pictures

[twin belfry]

https://youtu.be/kdOLUcvIBjQ Very hot

[charred abyss]

My brother wants to make a kit car of an e-type lmao

[ionic dirge]

One of our customers car collection

Few e-types in there

[obtuse plover]

Holy fuck

[twin belfry]

Oh, it’s that car

[obtuse plover]

I think I would die of pure excitement if I ever went there 😭

[twin belfry]

The Trust 956 iirc

[ionic dirge]

Yeah

[ionic dirge]

I’ll be there a fair bit moving cars

[obtuse plover]

Ooo feel free to send any pictures lmao

[ionic dirge]

Will do

Try get some of this f40 he bought the other month

[rare hill]

found some pictures in my dad’s old cars album, this was when he was fully rebuilding his 280zx it took him around 5 or 6 months, and it lasted 2 weeks after it was done because it caught fire and all his work was undone sadly

[twin belfry]

Oh….

God, that’s painful.

[fossil gulch]

Goddamn am i down bad for a new 650-1000cc bike😂

[fossil gulch]

Fucking RIP but at least it will be easier to rebuild the second time

[cyan wind]

as a whole or a certain one?

[fossil gulch]

Rn it’s more just a craving for a bigger bike but if I had the option to buy one tomorrow, probably the ninja 1000sx, Vstrom 1000 or Tenere 700

Or the GSXR1000GT

Because I’m a male in his 20’s and therefore I’m legally obligated to have gixxer brain rot

[cyan wind]

real

i'd love a 1000sx

[fossil gulch]

Damn there’s some near me that I can definitely afford if I sell my 400

Ahhhh, bad ideas get out of my head

[cyan wind]

do it

[obtuse plover]

Couldn’t get a reasonable picture but yeah, I saw another two just like this one.

[twin belfry]

Ooh, a Caterham

[obtuse plover]

Ignore the song on the background too 💀

Oh well

[obtuse plover]

I saw a couple other really classic cars too

And as we passed brandshatch I realised there was a historic car meet going on there, so that explains it lmao

[twin belfry]

Sweet

[rare hill]

yeah, he just lost confidence in rebuilding after that and just bought a Lexus, i can’t remember what model it was

i wanna try and get a 280zx at some point and build it and modify it with him but they’re pretty expensive

[fossil gulch]

How the fuck do people In warm climates wear any sort of riding jackets/pants with any sort of regularity

Like it took me one day of riding in 30c weather to give up and start riding in a t-shirt (which is still a bad idea and not something to copy)

[cyan wind]

the intrusive thought to wear shorts and a shirt

[fossil gulch]

Pants, gloves and helmet are non-negotiable for me Ngl,

But yeah, the intrusive thoughts to wear only a shirt did win today

Tip, if you want a mesh jacket get a mesh jacket, don’t half-ass it and get a jacket with mesh

[cyan wind]

yeah i was gonna get a revit jacket that's literally majority mesh

https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/317158 this one

[fossil gulch]

That’s a pretty nice jacket ngl

Kinda wish i picked one up instead of 2 cold weather textile jackets and a semi-mesh jacket

Only downside to a mesh jacket is that when it rains you’re kinda fucked

Actually not kinda, you’re just fucked

Also shoutout to my local store for selling complete jackets for the equivalent of 23 pounds because too many people complained about the zippers

[cyan wind]

yeah it's cheap, basic and a back protector is only like 30 bucks

[cyan wind]

definitely lmfao, that's why i have my richa jacket

things got a thermal and a water lining

heavy though

https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/572331 they do matching trousers but honestly you might aswell get some jeans

[sick pike]

id get one if they havent been out of stock for months now

[granite bison]

This has become a bike channel as of late and yk

Im in full support of it

[coral kelp]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S09-LPnZL0c

[tulip bramble]

Moto vloggers here in the philippines complain

about wearing riding jackets under the 40°C heat the sun produces

but yeah I’ll take sweat rather than sliding on the road unprotected

But despite that mindset. When I do get a bike, I’d prolly wear a normal tshirt and fit pants along with riding shoes

Thats if I’m not going on any kind of expressways

[pseudo gull]

even on regular roads if you fall off it’ll mince your arm

99% of the time, wear full gear

very rare exceptions are fine but unless it’ll be insufferable, wear kit

[cyan wind]

based

us 4 bike people are quite vocal here

[obtuse plover]

Saw a GT earlier 😏

I really need to get a dashcam, it’d get me much better quality pictures lmao

[orchid stratus]

Same in England
The one I saw was dark blue gloss with matte black stripes
I wasnt able to get a photo, but it grabbed everyone's attention

Oh wait it is england

🤦‍♂️

[obtuse plover]

😭

[orchid stratus]

https://tenor.com/view/england-crying-flag-emoji-evolution-red-sad-emoji-flag-emoji-england-flag-gif-16804241

[cyan wind]

what do you drive?

[cyan wind]

just saw this and think it concludes the conversation well

[tulip bramble]

true that

but I’m prolly just going for comfort on a 10km ride to somewhere and back

but unlikely for me to use a bike if I’m going somewhere where public transportation is an option

or the car for more storage space

then theres this guy, ImKay. Amazing rider but the lack of gear is a big yikes

[pseudo gull]

the jeans are an accurate representation of what’ll happen to him if he falls

[tulip bramble]

he’s crashed alot as far as I’m aware

idk if its on the road or track stuff

[jagged crater]

he's already had his fair share of road rash

But muh cooling

[cyan wind]

when stupid has money

[fierce oriole]

This rare ?

[twin belfry]

That Gulf Porsche 917K is super rare

Unless it’s a replica judging by the interior

[cyan wind]

https://twitter.com/ttracesofficial/status/1663576907160354819/photo/1 IOM TT photographers never fail to disappoint honestly

Isle of Man TT Races (@ttracesofficial)

What a shot 📸 of @M_Dunlop3 🔥

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[pseudo gull]

IOMTT in general never fails to disappoint

anyways guy flew past me on the motorway today in a 991 911 speedster with his dog on the passenger seat

glimpse into my future fr

[cyan wind]

i'm annoyed i don't have the money rn to get their tv pass

highlights will be up eventually so i'll just watch that

[cyan wind]

based

[pseudo gull]

ah fuck do you need to pay for it? i was hoping it would be on bt sport or something

only ever watched highlights before

[cyan wind]

it's like 20 quid iirc

but i'll be on thin ice to spend anymore atm

i assume you're british esten?

[pseudo gull]

yeah

ill@probably just wait for the highlights

[cyan wind]

same honestly

always next year

[cyan wind]

https://twitter.com/golds_chris/status/1663602871990988802 jesus

Chris Golds (@golds_chris)

Nice 😍🏍️🇮🇲👌

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[cyan wind]

almost like if the CBT was an actual license and competently taught riders it'd make new riders a bit safer, but that's just me

[fossil gulch]

@cyan wind https://www.motorcycle.com/bikes/new-model-preview/kawasaki-to-reveal-16-models-on-june-6-44584237

Verseys 400 perhaps 🤔

[cyan wind]

hmmm

hopefully an A2 compliant one

considering the power of the new ninja 400, hopefully that will continue if they move to a versys

but tbf, they have a 650 versys that's '22 new, so i imagine not

but 16 models? i fuckin hope they don't miss the versys lol

inb4 a versys 125

honestly between that or they revive the 125 varadero i'd be happy

[fossil gulch]

It’s probably gonna be a bunch of Euro5 compilant versions of existing bikes, a bunch of new dual sports and probably a bunch of naked bikes that are exactly the same as what they have now but with different fairing s

[cyan wind]

yeah exactly lmao

maybe euro5 for some way older bikes considering that shit came out in like '09, but maybe more a2 or 125 bikes?

tbf idk wtf they'd make 125cc

they've got the z series and the ninja, that's all people care about

[fossil gulch]

Thé ZX6r is probably making a euro return

[cyan wind]

yeah that wouldn't surprise me

hope so it's a nice bike

[fossil gulch]

H2 powered Vulcan would be hilarious

[cyan wind]

that'd be beautiful

are they high making these prices

[fossil gulch]

Check out how much Yamaha charges for any of their Tenere accessories

The side bags are 2.5K CAD

Or half of the price of my ninja 400

[cyan wind]

they're joking right? right?

oh the exhaust is the bulk price

a grand for a slip on

you could probs get the same shit from oxford for about 250

[fossil gulch]

Welcome to the world of OEM accessories

I think my dad spent close to 5-10k on random accessories for his XR when he bought it

[cyan wind]

christ

I've got a handful of things I'll get and that's about it

[fossil gulch]

He regularly goes on trips that are twice or more the equivalent of going from northern most Scotland to the southernmost point of England so he wanted to be as comfy as possible lmao

Mofo has heated grips which I’m hella jealous of

[cyan wind]

my dads got that too, I can't imagine how nice they are

[cyan wind]

yeah that's fair enough, I'd only spend that money knowing I'd be using it a shit ton

really for a varadero I'd probs just get stuff like heated grips, phone mount, extended windshield and maybe just some panniers if im feeling like I want to spend money

most of it will probably just come down to what I think I'll need when actually riding it

[granite bison]

Jesus christ that looks overpriced as hell but i down own a bike so idk

[cyan wind]

it definitely is lmfao

[granite bison]

In fact i don’t own anything really

I could in theory apply to get a license for a scooter when i go to france (i go see my family sometimes in france and the region my grandparents live in let people from 14 drive 50cc bikes i believe)

[fossil gulch]

Honestly, if it’s your first bike and you don’t plan on keeping long term. Get the stuff you absolutely need to be comfortable (lowering kit, tall seat, extended windshield…) and leave the nice to have stuff for your next bike

[cyan wind]

yeah for sure

it depends on my situation when I'm 19 really, a2 is like a grand then another bike is like 3-4k so I imagine I'll have it till I'm 20 maybe

[fossil gulch]

Like heated grips, carbon bits, seat cowls, panniers (to an extent) start adding up and don’t add any value when you sell (they actually typically decrease value)

[cyan wind]

yeah that's why I'd keep stock shit on standby

it's not for everyone what I purchase

[fossil gulch]

There’s about a grand of crap I’d like to add to my ninja 400 Rn but that 1k is 10% of what I need to end the season on a 1000SX

[cyan wind]

For sure

I'll probs just do a phone mount, higher windscreen and frame sliders for when I inevitably dropnit

[granite bison]

Me listening to this conversation rn because this is actual valid advice i might need to take into account if i ever get a bike

[cyan wind]

lmfao feel free

[granite bison]

I actually could technically get one, i just wouldn’t be able to take it home

[cyan wind]

it usually like 4 (vase, me, zeŕo and estebussin) of us just rambling, any questions feel free

[fossil gulch]

Or use thé money saved to buy better/duplicates of gear (2 pairs of gloves is a really good idea, wet hands suck ass)

[fossil gulch]

I think I’m the only one out of the 4 that actually has a bike lmao

[cyan wind]

este has one

[fossil gulch]

Is he the one with the RC390?

[cyan wind]

401 svartpilen iirc

or he started on their 125 variation

[fossil gulch]

Oh, what ever happened to the RC390 guy from SA

[cyan wind]

@pseudo gull what do you ride nowadays?

[cyan wind]

definitely and same with summer gear, if I do end up getting a bike in summer you can bet I'm buying that richa jacket and jeans

not richa sorry, revit

[cyan wind]

honestly leave getting a 50cc and at the least see for a 125

if you can go for something bigger to start on persay like a 300, that'd probably work better in your favour

[granite bison]

Yeah i’ll just wait till im adult

Its a very popular thing in the aquitaine region to get a scooter instead of a bicycle

You dont see many real bikes even among adults

[cyan wind]

i imagine you're somewhere in Italy?

[granite bison]

No i visit france for the holidays

And in the UK, where i live its basically the oppposite

No scooters

[cyan wind]

oh you're england aswell

you're the third one here who's british

[granite bison]

My family is all french but they moved to england

[fossil gulch]

It seems the only bike you’re legally allowed to own in Italy is an R1250 GS or a scooter lmao

[cyan wind]

genuinely lmfao

exist are you old enough for an a2 license?

[granite bison]

15 so prolly nope

Bikes are cool tho so i like just sitting down and watching people ramble about them

[cyan wind]

yeah you'll have to wait till your 17 sadly for a 125, but don't worry you've got plenty of time to learn if you do choose to get a bike

i started liking bikes when I was like 13, so it's been a long time lmao

[granite bison]

I’d probably get a bit later my parents cant stand the idea, the classic ‘iTs ToO DanGeRous’

If you drive like an idiot with no suit or helmet then yes

It is

[twin belfry]

I used to dislike bikes a lot, but over time, I gradually loved them more and more.

[granite bison]

Used to be neutral but idk where this new interest came from either

[twin belfry]

Also, the best thing out of everything I discovered when it came to bikes was the 500cc era in MotoGP. I was so interested, I just wanted to look into it more and more

[cyan wind]

I can only suggest proving you're safe when the time comes for lessons and whatnot. I got my cbt done in like November and I'm still going out for rental rides with my dad to convince my mum lol

[twin belfry]

Heck, I can’t stop raving about it.

[cyan wind]

Don't get me wrong biking is a super dangerous thing to do, but there's measure you can do to lower it.

[granite bison]

Problem is it’s both parents who kinda have that mentality

[cyan wind]

Motogp actually clears so hard

[cyan wind]

For sure, honestly just see what they think about lessons and whatnot

[fossil gulch]

My dad absolutely hated the idea of me riding until after I finished uni but was literally sending me links to bikes for sale the minute I registered for my course lmao. My mum just accepted it on the condition I buy gear lol. It’s a lot easier when you are financially independent from them

[granite bison]

But like, if you’re responsible and wear the right gear i dont see what to be concerned about

[cyan wind]

That last line is extremely true

[twin belfry]

The amount of Americans who came and conquered makes me feel proud as an American fan

[cyan wind]

The kentucky kid

[twin belfry]

Fast Freddie

[cyan wind]

Exactly

[granite bison]

Unless you live in a country where car-ens are determined to run you over in their kia sportages, but there aren’t many in the uk and especially not in the part of france i visit

[cyan wind]

It's quite a diverse sport and you really dunno who can win, even pecco said that

Well around that

[twin belfry]

even though there was the agostini, rossi, and marquez eras but that's beside the point

[cyan wind]

Oh yeah to watch before 2019 it was pretty bad

[fossil gulch]

Most (like 70%) of bike crashes are single vehicle. (Aka the bike crashed into a pole/tree/Hadtolayerherdown
)

[cyan wind]

But for the past like 3 years it's been different people

[granite bison]

Fair point

[cyan wind]

Quat, rins and pecco

Not rins its mir I mean

[fossil gulch]

Which makes sense since a lot of riders are pretty shit at riding (cough most cruiser riders cough)

[granite bison]

I’m having a conversation about something i dont even drive since 3am, its now 4:10 and i should get sleep but no

Bike life baby

[cyan wind]

Yeah I said I should sleep about like 2hrs ago

[granite bison]

Real

Elioposting on main, feel free to use i found it online anyway

I just like elio

Also that kinda looks like a bike helmet

With the vents and stuff

[fossil gulch]

There’s a VFR800 near me for sale at a decent price…

Must resist

[twin belfry]

Oooh. VFR800's are cool

[fossil gulch]

It’s in really good shape too

It’s pretty fucking long tho

[cyan wind]

do it

[fossil gulch]

If I can find a cheaper apartment within the next week I shall probably

Since that’s my only roadblock

[cyan wind]

Hope you do dude

[granite bison]

How much of a bitch is insurance for bikes in the uk

[cyan wind]

Don't get me started

Got quoted like 2400

[granite bison]

wow

[cyan wind]

But that's without a frame number / plate, so I imagine it goes down

For a varadero the lowest I got was 1100

That's with a plate, but no call to any peoples

[granite bison]

Idrk if thats good or not idek about insurance lol

Was asking in a general sense

[fossil gulch]

You can buy a running, road registered GSXR1000 for that price here lmao

[cyan wind]

For first bike 1000 is probably what you'll have to pay

After that it can go up or down depending on the cc on your a2 license

[granite bison]

1000 or below or just 1000 flat

[cyan wind]

2400 is criminal prices though

[cyan wind]

1000 or above honestly

[fossil gulch]

Compared to other countries that’s insane. I pay 196 pounds a year for mine

For the UK, idk

[cyan wind]

BikeSure is where you want to go for insurance

[granite bison]

Ah fair

[cyan wind]

Heard they're decent and i got recommended when I was finishing off my lessons

[granite bison]

Ok

I’ll keep a note of that somewhere

[cyan wind]

It's fuckin ridiculous, seriously

[fossil gulch]

Bad idea 2.0 https://www.kijiji.ca/v-moto-sport/saint-jean-sur-richelieu/moto-suzuki-1000/1659771820?undefined

I could actually afford to keep my 400 with this one…

[cyan wind]

There's a great top gear episode and one quote I'll always remember is "so with that quote, you think I'm going to write of my car 3 times in a year?"

[fossil gulch]

But I also wanna live into my 30’s

Vehicle insurance can be such a scam sometimes

[cyan wind]

You'll be the first gixxer rider to wear appropriate gear lmao

[fossil gulch]

You really have to shop around since rates can vary absurdly

[cyan wind]

Has it been sitting or used quite a bit?

[cyan wind]

it's crazy some prices I see people pay

Also, limited miles each month? The fuck?

[granite bison]

Jesus what

[cyan wind]

Like some dude in ot gen got a blackbox insurance or whatever and he has limited miles on it

[granite bison]

Ain no way thats a thing fr

[fossil gulch]

also check with your parents because sometimes you can sneak onto their policies for cheap

[cyan wind]

Yeah I might see to that with my dad

[fossil gulch]

Tesla insurance will shoot up your rate if you drive after 10pm

[cyan wind]

It's a scam

[granite bison]

No shit lmfao

[cyan wind]

Probs low prices to make it look sane

[cyan wind]

I just don't get that

Let me fuckin drive at a fixed rate

[fossil gulch]

Because the risk of accidents rises after 10pm, it’s all about saving money

You can get fixed rate but it’s more per month

Variable rate policies usually have that kind of shit

Or require you to plug in sensors that track acceleration, braking …

[cyan wind]

Yeah you can fuck right off with that

[granite bison]

Wow bruh

[cyan wind]

I'd rather pay premium than be telemetried

[granite bison]

Oh look the sun’s rising

[fossil gulch]

Some times it’s worth it if you don’t drive much cause you’ll end up saving over 20% cause the car sits all the time but if you drive frequently it’s rarely worth it

[cyan wind]

Yeah literally

I'm glad blackboxes are never gonna be thing on bikes

[fossil gulch]

Like I’m looking at switching to one for my car cause I haven’t even done one tank of gas since I got my bike

[cyan wind]

God don't remind me lmao

[granite bison]

Real

I’m meant to go out to see family today too😬

Least i can sleep on the car ride i guess

[cyan wind]

Yeah I never really thought I'd use a car much, I never really liked being in cars so it'd either sit there as a backup or I'd just never get kne

[cyan wind]

Sleep while you can, some sleep is 100x better than none

[fossil gulch]

I mean I still drive a lot to go to work, classes… it’s just so much cheaper, easier and FUN to do it on two wheels

[granite bison]

Typically have breakfast and wake up at 5:30-45 so if i have breakfast at normal time i might be able to catch some Zs

[fossil gulch]

In the month I’ve had my bike I’ve done 3000 kilometers for context

It’s like 11am the next day for you guys, y’all should get some sleep lmao

[granite bison]

Naw i can live off of less than average hours of sleep

I went to sleep at a healthy time

Finally

[cyan wind]

Fair play on waking up that early lmao

[granite bison]

Yeah i go to sleep at 9-10 but i can live with it

Feels good being up early tbf

[cyan wind]

Yeah cars always felt like what they are, metal boxes. They're fun to watch overtake eachother and I imagine in a racing environment they're fun, but it's not the same kinda click as a bike for me

[granite bison]

Think i’ll get my brekkie innit a bit earlier than usual cuz im bored as fuck

[cyan wind]

Yeah I used to be awake super early but I'm shit with it now

[twin belfry]

I’m a fan of both, and both machines have their upsides and downsides

[cyan wind]

For sure

I can appreciate what they can do at the pinnacle of motorsport

[twin belfry]

That’s mainly the reason why my username is Two-By-Four Wheel Drive

[granite bison]

Yeah i guess it changes, used to be a 6 oclock boy

[cyan wind]

Maybe one day my opinion will change, but not today lol

Anyway I'm off to bed

[twin belfry]

Gn

[granite bison]

Anyway ima go rest a bit before breakfast, idk if sleeping tho

[cyan wind]

Nice talking with you all, have a good night or rest of your day

[twin belfry]

👍

[granite bison]

Sun’s rising lmao

[granite bison]

G’noigh’ m8

[twin belfry]

Sun’s already down where I am

[granite bison]

Its 4:33 am for me

[twin belfry]

11:34 pm for me

[granite bison]

Time zones are a bitch to convert

[granite bison]

Well good night i guess

[twin belfry]

I’m still gonna be up for another couple of hours anyway

[granite bison]

I’ll go offline, need to rest a bit

Idk about sleeping anymore, not enough time. Im a heavy sleeper but man it takes some time to go to sleep

I’m a sleeping tank

Heavy but slow

[pseudo gull]

street triple with the a2 restriction

[tulip bramble]

1200 or the 700?

[pseudo gull]

660, to make it a2 legal

don’t think the 700s and 1200s can be restricted

[tulip bramble]

I didnt know Street Triples had 660’s

I thought their only i3 naked 600 was the trident

[cyan wind]

You got it ECU restricted?

I imagine that let's you use the whole throttle, just with less power?

[tulip bramble]

I’ll never understand EU bike laws

but even if I do, I dont think I want in on it

[cyan wind]

A1 at 17 is just a 125cc with no L plates and you can go on motorways

A2 is up to something like 47hp but you can restrict bikes up to 90hp if you wish to do so, or you can just like a 300

Then full A is you can ride anything, that's at like 21 if you hold your a2 license for 2 years

[tawdry badger]

(Engine from a V12 Ferrari 412P)

(Circled in green): Are those Magnetti Marelli coil resistors? Ignition coils?

And why are there only 4 of them? In a V12

[fossil gulch]

I’m no mechanic but I think you have 4 ignition coils that go into two distributors the black things right above with all the wiring) so you have 2 coils per distributor

Most old cars only have 1 coil with the spark being sent to the correct cylinder by the distributor (hence why in old car restoration videos you’ll see people rotate the distributor to change the timing)

As to why Ferrari choose to do things that way, maybe ask #F1 |technical

My uneducated guess would be a mix of old electrical components not liking huge current and good ol Italian engineering

[tawdry badger]

Yes 🙌

Thanks a lot @fossil gulch

[cyan wind]

i love trying to find bike jeans that'd fit me

[cyan wind]

like nowhere has long jeans that are 36, they're either 32 or 38

[sick pike]

RevZilla has em but idk if they operate in the UK

Or what the UK equivalent of RevZilla is

[cyan wind]

nah they're murica oo rah 🦅

[cyan wind]

it's probs SBS and they don't have it

[sick pike]

Rip

[cyan wind]

yeah it's wank

trying to find some before i hopefully get this bike

[cyan wind]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5SZUaA6eak

[thick lichen]

Jaguar F-Pace

For an SUV it has a great design because it doesn't look like it's face is stretched out like most SUVs do.

[split raptor]

Do Lego cars count?
McLaren Senna GTR

[noble nebula]

https://tenor.com/view/rin-anime-yuru-camp-yuru-camp-gif-20443460

[tawdry badger]

2010 Hyundai Grand Starex VIP

[cyan wind]

https://twitter.com/ttracesofficial/status/1664728831213682690

Isle of Man TT Races (@ttracesofficial)

Postcards from a PHENOMENAL week of Qualifying 🤩

What a week! We’ve seen unofficial lap records, over 200mph through the speed trap and five days of perfect course conditions. We can only imagine what Race Week holds....

Twitter · Jun 2, 2023, 8:20 PM

[sick pike]

How many CCs are IOMTT bikes

[cyan wind]

superbike is 600 supersport is 1000 iirc

[sick pike]

The new Honda scrambler looks nice

[split raptor]

I fixed the name issue

[noble nebula]

I like it.

[jagged crater]

Other way around

[jagged crater]

Same regs as BSB or WSBK as far I know
Superbike/Senior TT: 1,000 race builds
SuperSports: 600
SuperStock: 1,000
SuperTwin: 700 twin cylinder
Sidecar: 600 or 890 if you're KTM's twin

[tender obsidian]

These parking jobs 🙄

[obtuse plover]

:))

[tulip bramble]

@cyan wind been seeing lotta CB650R’s lately

I think this is the sign I’m looking for to get a CB650R

[pseudo gull]

hot

[cyan wind]

they're nice, that's for sure

[fossil gulch]

Bit pricy tho

2-3k more here than an MT-07 or Z650

Don’t understand why so many of Honda’s motorcycles are so pricy compared to competitors

[cyan wind]

how much do they go for?

[fossil gulch]

11k CAD

[cyan wind]

yeah that's way overpriced

[fossil gulch]

Both the MT and Z are in the 9K range

All their 500’s are priced like 650’s and their 650’s are priced like 1000’s

Thé R7 and thé CBR500R are exactly the same price

Not the baby firebird, their ninja 400 competitor

Is the same as an R7

Wait nvm

[cyan wind]

weird, over here they're only 200 quid different

[fossil gulch]

Yamaha redirects me to the US page

Both in Canadian dollars this time

[cyan wind]

oh wow

[cyan wind]

ironically they're all around the same price, i wonder why the massive price gap for canada

[fossil gulch]

Idk, but I’ve heard a fair few people complain about Hondas being a bit pricey in NA

But idk, maybe they just focus on the euro/Asia market more

[cyan wind]

probably

sucks they're way more expensive

it's not like they really have an upper hand on anything

[fossil gulch]

The weirdest part is that the local bike dealer here is also a Honda (car) dealer but the showroom is 90% other brands

Still really really good bikes

All their 500’s are amazing beginner bikes

[cyan wind]

yeah i've always been fond of honda

engines never die, they also made the varadero so i have to thank them for that

[zinc lichen]

new car

i love it

[fossil gulch]

Nice bmw

Jk, it’s a nice car

[zinc lichen]

i still don’t get the bmw joke it’s a toyota
wanted something sporty from japan that was reasonably quick

[tulip bramble]

it is an Inline 4 so yepp

[twin belfry]

BMW engine, physical resemblance to the BMW Z4

Z4 Jokes are born

[tulip bramble]

Great balance between beginner friendly and experienced rider stuff

[zinc lichen]

it uses a bmw engine?

[twin belfry]

Yes

[zinc lichen]

that’s neat

if toyota trusts bmw enough to put their engine in that car i think i can too

it’s fast

sounds good too

[twin belfry]

https://youtu.be/hbzuJZB-LCo

[fossil gulch]

Regardless of engine type, it doesn’t do anything special enough to merit such a price gap

[tulip bramble]

the only reason I could still think of is how every honda is a different experience, their 650’s dont use the same engines the same way with Z650 = Ninja 650 and MT-08 = R7

[tulip bramble]

there’s also the uhh

fuck I forgot the word

I just woke up

oh electronics

[cyan wind]

a different experience shouldn't cost 2k more than other competitors

sorry i've had a meltdown writing that

[fossil gulch]

Is it really a different experience tho

[cyan wind]

i mean like an mt is a naked and so is the z650

[fossil gulch]

It’s still in the same category for top speed, torque and acceleration if I’m not mistaken

[tulip bramble]

I forgot that theres also a sport version of the 650

so disregard what I said about “new experience”, honda also does the same stuff

[fossil gulch]

Also, new experience doesn’t always mean better

[tulip bramble]

yeah

[fossil gulch]

A KLR650 is unique from all the rest of the ADV bikes but I don’t think a single person would claim it’s a better riding experience than a tenere, that ktm ADV or a GS750

[cyan wind]

if the honda had a better design to ensure the bike will have a better experience than i guess a bigger price is warranted, but it's like the trio of 600/650 bikes and doesn't really add much difference

[fossil gulch]

The problem is that everyone and their nan has a 650 naked on the market and the Honda doesn’t do anything remarkable to justify charging more than the others. It’s just a good solid reliable bike

[tulip bramble]

I guess what I’m trying to say is, Honda made something different from the other 650 competitors, giving it an i4 engine, which most 650 nakeds dont have.

Like comparing an Ecoboost Mustang with the 5.0 one, they look the same, and prolly feels the same if it werent for the engine

[fossil gulch]

The problem is that it’s not drastically better than the other offers

Like a 5.0 would be versus an eco boost

[tulip bramble]

Only thing to offer is its sound

[fossil gulch]

It does sound good

And it’s insanely reliable

[tulip bramble]

yepp

[fossil gulch]

But it’s a Japanese 650 naked, there’s basically nothing to go wrong

It’s a really good bike and you can’t go wrong with buying it

Solid choice and has the best front view of any naked

#thanks for no cyber bug eyes

[tulip bramble]

amen 🙏

[languid hamlet]

Cool

[fathom rose]

I love this. It's so stupid but amazing at the same time 😭

[fossil gulch]

That’s actually kinda sick

[fossil gulch]

How did someone import one into the US?

Unless it’s not actually a jazz RS

In which case, smh I got baited

[fathom rose]

It's not a Jazz, just a rebadged Fit

[cyan wind]

12hrs till this happens

if they were to release a 125 versys that'd be funny as shit

i doubt it'll be much, probs just older models with a new year

[fossil gulch]

It wouldn't be Varado sized tho

[cyan wind]

defo not

[fossil gulch]

It would just be a faired Z125

[cyan wind]

god those z125's are the smallest one i've been on that isn't considered comical sized

like a honda monkey

i remember on my cbt i had to use it and after like 40 mins i was cramping

[fossil gulch]

The monkey is barely a bike and more an offroad scooter

[cyan wind]

honestly

between that and groms idk how people enjoy using them on the road

[fossil gulch]

Its fun to rip around on and wheelie

and the grom can still go pretty quick

I'm really glad all the school here teach on Rebel 500's, CB500R's or Boulevard 800s

learning counter balancing on a 125 sounds pointless

[cyan wind]

meh i have found it helpful

if i'm going a bit quick through corners it's good

quick meaning like 45

[fossil gulch]

Thats counter steering

[cyan wind]

💀

i'm tired sorry

[fossil gulch]

Counter balance you lean opposite the bike

[cyan wind]

yeah i've not been told much about counter balancing

it's mainly on slow stuff like figure of 8's was when they said about it

[fossil gulch]

But theres not really a need when the bike is 100 pounds

[cyan wind]

the cbf i was on is like 282

[fossil gulch]

learning counter steering on a small bike is perfect since you aren't learning at absurd speeds

[cyan wind]

for sure

[cyan wind]

then the varadero is 328, which i guess is helpful for more faster speeds

so you don't feel like you're floating

[fossil gulch]

Yeah, the boulevard we had to learn on was 700lbs

[cyan wind]

oh wow

[fossil gulch]

These lads

If we couldn't counterbalance those properly, we had to take extra lessons

[cyan wind]

oh christ

those are fuckin huge lmao

[cyan wind]

turns out the z125 is even heavier, which feels impossible

[fossil gulch]

a ninja 400 is only 370 wtf did honda feed the Varadero

[cyan wind]

lots of extra weight lol

[fossil gulch]

You'll appreciate it tho when you're next to lorries or in heavy winds

[cyan wind]

it's a pro and a con, obvs it'll feel like a bigger bike and at high speed it'll hold it's ground, but then it's also heavy

but apparently it can sit at 70mph happily, which doesn't sound right

[cyan wind]

exactly

[fossil gulch]

Define happily

[cyan wind]

reading off what someone said it doesn't appear to be happy

[fossil gulch]

Because it will probably do that in 6th below the red line but I don't think its a happy experience

[cyan wind]

iirc they said it does it at like 11k rpm

[cyan wind]

only got 5 gears

[fossil gulch]

Like my 400 can technically go 180km/h+ but I've pushed it to 160 and its just not fun

You're just getting deafened

[cyan wind]

for sure

between that and wrist fatigue i'll keep to lower speeds

[fossil gulch]

I don't think I've really gotten wrist fatigue much outside of 8 hour+ riding days

My legs start giving out first

[cyan wind]

maybe my definition is wrong, but when i wake up my wrists hurt like fuck

[fossil gulch]

Tucked riding positions aren't ment for that

[cyan wind]

my ass and shoulders hurt around the same time as my wrist

[fossil gulch]

I got that when I was learning to use the clutch properly but not really since

[cyan wind]

maybe i'm gripping too hard iudk

[fossil gulch]

But I usually just cruise at 70-90 so theres not much wrist mouvement

If you are accel/decell alot that might get painful faster

[cyan wind]

yeah that's usually what it is

[fossil gulch]

But check your riding position, maybe you are keeping your arms too low or high

[cyan wind]

usually i end up accidentally slouching, but i try to keep my back straight and keep my grip wide

that's what i like about my dad's new versys, sat on it and there's zero space to slouch and it's great

[fossil gulch]

Also Bar risers can help alot with that

[cyan wind]

yeah you can kinda see they're quite low and impacting on the wrist

where say a varadero is alot more rised, so i imagine i'll have less of that issue

[fossil gulch]

Probably, the CBF seems to put you alot closer to the controls too

[cyan wind]

yeah it feels like my old bicycle

just way too small overall

i imagine when i get a varadero it'll be a lot more spaced out, i hope so anyway

[fossil gulch]

No, stop it, get some help

[cyan wind]

can't advise ducati for their maintenance fee's

[fossil gulch]

"Ducati monster" and "Beginner bike" don't belong anywhere near each other