cars-and-bikes

[cyan wind]

what's wrong with it?

[tulip bramble]

drive it home

[sick pike]

Just for inspection

It's used after all

[sick pike]

Can't

[tulip bramble]

oof

why so?

[sick pike]

Permit doesn't allow freeway driving

[cyan wind]

do you have to use a freeway over?

well obviously i mean

[tulip bramble]

License?

[sick pike]

Yeah

[cyan wind]

but can you go down like smaller roads n shit to get therer

[sick pike]

I get the license 6 months after holding the permit

[tulip bramble]

Oooh

[sick pike]

3 hour ride

Without the highway

[tulip bramble]

wellp it’ll definitely cost alot if you have it transported via transport truck

if you have a pickup

[cyan wind]

i see

[tulip bramble]

you can load it at the back

[cyan wind]

well there's a shit ending either way lmao

[tulip bramble]

yepp

[cyan wind]

3 hour ride and don't have to pay for it to be transported, or just transport it pay a ton

imo i'd see how much fuel is to get there and compare to transported

[tulip bramble]

all options are hassles

but if you really want the bike

do the 3 hour drive, just so you get s feel for it

if its a touring bike, might as well be comfortable eh?

[sick pike]

Its an adv

[tulip bramble]

Honda?

[sick pike]

Kawi

Versys 300

[tulip bramble]

Oooh

[sick pike]

Seats are known to be rock hard though

[tulip bramble]

I havent looked much into Versys’

All I know about them, is they look hooot

[cyan wind]

versys can't be that bad

[sick pike]

Yeah

[cyan wind]

versys are great fun, 1000 is atleast lol

[sick pike]

Engine is from a ninja 300

[tulip bramble]

thats how it is for most bikes round the same cc

at least for brands

[cyan wind]

considering it's a versys it'll be a long ride, but it won't suck as much as other bikes

[tulip bramble]

Ninja 400 = Z400

Wellp I’m going out of town for Senior Highschool

And because I’ll be living in dorms, I wont travel home as much

might actually consider a bike

[cyan wind]

@sick pike can you get a quote for how much it'd be to transport it?

[cyan wind]

only consider if you're not gonna be carrying alot

[tulip bramble]

yepp

[cyan wind]

while bikes are fun, if you've got shit like a pc or something to carry there's not much point

[tulip bramble]

School I’ll go to is around 3 hours away from home

dorm and my home will have clothes and stuff, so travelling home with light luggage is doable

tho 3 hours on a bike aint pleasant

[cyan wind]

i'd suggest oxford panniers aswell, idk how accessible they are from where you're at but they're great

oxford p60's or whatever they're called

[tulip bramble]

Side bags

love em

I want a Ducati Mulistrada

[cyan wind]

side bags > top boxes

[tulip bramble]

[cyan wind]

my dad was going to get one

[tulip bramble]

what happened?

[sick pike]

1260

According to one website

[tulip bramble]

Ahhh not worth it

[cyan wind]

christ almighty

i'd suck up and do the ride

[tulip bramble]

might as well get a ‘95 accord with that 1260

[cyan wind]

i cannot stand those cheap shit ones

[tulip bramble]

Its really common in Asia

looks bad imo

[sick pike]

For delivery riders too

[tulip bramble]

tho on the other hand, its comfortable if you’re back riding

cause you can lay your back there

[cyan wind]

chad side bags

what

it's a fuckin bag aswell 😭

[tulip bramble]

I’m honestly starting to consider an Inline 4 650

without any experience whatsoever

[cyan wind]

if you get a top box get one that actually looks good and not some plastic shit

[cyan wind]

enjoy paying insurance

[cyan wind]

stop

literal sex machine

[tulip bramble]

Insurance cheapo here

[sick pike]

I'm surprised u haul sells tow hitches for sedans

[tulip bramble]

its very sex

[sick pike]

Could use a motorcycle trailer from them and tow using some vehicle

[cyan wind]

i was gonna get the 125 version of those if i didn't say

[tulip bramble]

what car do you have?

if its a pickup, you can drive it home

[sick pike]

Legacy

[tulip bramble]

ohh

[sick pike]

Not recommended for towing according to Subaru

U haul does let you rent pickups

[cyan wind]

but then you have to drive it back

[tulip bramble]

yepp

all viable options include driving it back

I suggest the 3 hour ride if you really want it

or look into other Versys 300’s near you

[cyan wind]

unless i'm an ignorant bri ish and they have someone take it back

[sick pike]

You have to drive the thing back iirc

[tulip bramble]

If you know someone who drives bikes

[sick pike]

There are multiple drop off points I think

For the rented truck

[tulip bramble]

bring them with you and y’all can take turns getting it home

first hour and a half is you, second is your lad

[sick pike]

Don't know anyone

Maybe my mom does

Since I remember her mentioning her co workers having motorcycles

[tulip bramble]

that’ll do the trick

@cyan wind considering this as well

heard its a great bike for starters

[sick pike]

Although I don't think I'm gonna be confident in riding the thing since it's gonna be my first time on a motorcycle

That isn't a small ass 125cc

[cyan wind]

your first time ever?

[tulip bramble]

tho common issue I hear from riders bout the trident is its throttle response

[cyan wind]

oh

i can only say seb is to be careful, rag it around a few times around a car park or sometthing

[tulip bramble]

no manual experience?

[tulip bramble]

^^

[cyan wind]

125's are manual

most of the time

[sick pike]

The one I practiced on was manual

8 hours of practice on that thing

[tulip bramble]

I thought of a 125cc scooter

[sick pike]

Part of motorcycle training course

Wait no it's a 150 actually

[tulip bramble]

thats great

[cyan wind]

8hrs all together or at one time

[tulip bramble]

the 300 is gonna be a small hop

[sick pike]

4 hours in 2 days

[tulip bramble]

tho do test it out first

cause, weight difference

[sick pike]

Most of the time in that 8 hours was waiting though

Since we usually did things one by one

Or in groups

[cyan wind]

one thing you'll find is the steering will probably be way heavier

only because it's actually built to handle highway speeds, unlike 125's

but that's only for low speed, and higher speed it'll be the same but nowhere near as bad

[sick pike]

150cc is allowed on the freeway weirdly enough

149 is a no-no

But 150 is a ok

[tulip bramble]

I want me a Kawi 650

[cyan wind]

i think 150 is smart

because that can actually do 70

imo uk needs to make for 17 yr olds atleast 200cc

[tulip bramble]

we have no restrictions here

[cyan wind]

lucky

they're so fucking tight on rules

i can't ride that ninja till i do a 3 day test at 19

[tulip bramble]

tho your license needs to say that you’re allowed to drive bikes

but thats an easy process

just go to your nearest LTO (DMV in Philippines) and get it changed

@cyan wind its still a stupid choice to go for an Inline 4 650 yeah?

[sick pike]

650s a bit high imo

[tulip bramble]

it is yeah

[cyan wind]

650 for a first bike is a bit wild

i'd do 400

300 is enough to get you in and out of bad situations, and is a good beginners mark

400 is just if you want a lil bit more

[tulip bramble]

Duke 390 remains my safe point if ever I fully consider 400’s

[sick pike]

I don't know if I wanna change the sprocket if I ever get a versys

[tulip bramble]

gets me access to freeway

so might work for doing long travels

[cyan wind]

the cb300r does 100, which i think is enough for a beginner

[sick pike]

Cause you can skip 1st gear entirely on the road

[cyan wind]

i wonder what 1st gear is like for a 300

1st gear in 125 is so painfully short

[sick pike]

Geared for off-roading and it is very short

[tulip bramble]

wellp If I do get a 650, I’d go for Z or a Ninja

650’s already crazy

inline 4 would just be fucken crazier

[cyan wind]

how tall are ye zero

probs said before i've just forgotten with my horrific memory sorry

[sick pike]

Are other countries also getting this ninja?

[tulip bramble]

around 5’8

[cyan wind]

ah that won't be that bad then

[cyan wind]

yep

[sick pike]

It looks amazing

[cyan wind]

uk is selling them so fuckin overpriced

[tulip bramble]

yeah

overpriced tho

[sick pike]

What's the difference between that and the normal 400

[tulip bramble]

sells around the same price as a used 2019 Zx6r iirc

[tulip bramble]

ZX bikes from Kawi are track ready bikes

[sick pike]

Oh

[tulip bramble]

main difference is its ergonomics and its engine

ZX4 has an Inline 4

Surprisingly, Kawi’s 250cc ZX25R has an Inline 4

[cyan wind]

surprising

isn't the mainstream opinion of inline 4s being ass

or is it v twin

[tulip bramble]

idk

[jagged crater]

IT DOES EXIST?

[tulip bramble]

from what I’ve heard, peeps do say that Inline 4 bikes are more expensive to maintain, dk bout V-Twin tho

[twin belfry]

What about V4's though

[tulip bramble]

same as Inline 4’s

expenso and difficult

[twin belfry]

I'm quite surprised that for bikes with such a common engine configuration, the maintenance would be a pain.

Even though engine configuration means nothing when it comes to many more things

[cyan wind]

isn't v4 only done by ducati with that one model or am I ignorant

[twin belfry]

Aprilia

[tulip bramble]

Aprilia has V4’s too

[cyan wind]

ah

[tulip bramble]

both Italians

[cyan wind]

iirc they're just expensive as balls

[tulip bramble]

indeed

I want a Ducati as a first litre bike after my 650cc experience

but hell

even the V2’s expensive as shit

[cyan wind]

idek what I want as a litre bike

MT10 is hot

[tulip bramble]

Indeed

I may do Naked Bikes

but 1000cc Sport Bikes are just hooot

so may go down that path

tho If I do get a Z650, I’ll keep it

so I’ll have a Twin Cyl Daily

[cyan wind]

oh z1000 is a good call

or a 1290 super duke

[tulip bramble]

I may go for a CBR1000R as a litre bike

or Kawi ZX10R actually

[cyan wind]

I want a sports tourer that'd fit me

[jagged crater]

I'd love to ride, man

[twin belfry]

Goldwings are cool

[tulip bramble]

I love travelling with a bit of adrenaline so yes, I want bikes

Big as hecc

[cyan wind]

gold wings are just a small car near enough

[tulip bramble]

Big as a bike, small as a car

[cyan wind]

basically

i just want a bike i can actually overtake people and not be overtaken every 5 fuckin seconds

[tulip bramble]

hmm

[twin belfry]

https://youtu.be/cILWQIjXTd0 How to ride a Goldwing with precision

[cyan wind]

beyond me how they do that

you really have to trust the bike

[cyan wind]

genuinely such a sexy bike

I love the cbr

[tulip bramble]

Honda >

[twin belfry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVROhRLrQ3U

Yamaha

[cyan wind]

kawasaki and honda have a soft place in my heart

[twin belfry]

I'm not really a fan of Suzukis or Kawasakis.

[cyan wind]

suzuki were never my thing

Some of the ninjas are alright and some aren't, I more like the z series and the versys

Honda mainly because my dad started on one, and it's what I'll start on eventually

[tulip bramble]

I never really liked Suzukis

Their colour schemes always bright, and newer models still has that 2000’s looks

2006 and 2020

[sick pike]

hate their headlights though

looks ugly as hell

[mortal igloo]

Porsche gt3rs

[cyan wind]

Their naked series looked nice but that's about it

Their headlights are like marmite, you either love it or you fuckin hate it

[tulip bramble]

same

but shiiiit

Suzuki Nakeds are hooooot

[fossil gulch]

Because Suzuki hasn’t updated them since the 2000’s lmao

[tulip bramble]

exactly, still keeping up with their classic looks

[jagged crater]

Can't say I'm a fan of the Y2K Alien aesthetic superbikes went for

[plain carbon]

"Porsche headlights on Kermit the frog"

[cyan wind]

god they are the embolism of sex

[sick pike]

Holy shit

[twin belfry]

The elusive H2 spotted in the wild

[tulip bramble]

Oh shiiit

H2

Fuckin Hell, H2 with Vandemon exhaust is literal Sex

Should be the standard H2 exhaust instead of that humongous stock exhaust

[sick pike]

Also forgot about these

[tulip bramble]

390 and an R7?

oh yepp R7

blue and black fairings

[sick pike]

I went to the gear shop earlier but i didnt buy anything

imma order online instead incase a sale happens

just need to find out what jacket i wanna get

ive sorted out gloves pants and boots

[tulip bramble]

ones with sliders will do

tho idk any good brands

only brand I know that makes great riding jackets is Alpinestars

but considering its quality

I’m expecting a fat price tag

[cyan wind]

they're beautiful irl

they're big too

[cyan wind]

those dukes are hot but don't last

hold on

what my old man told me about some companies, take what you will of it

[sick pike]

Dainese and Alpinestars are the only ones available here

Have not seen those other brands

[cyan wind]

it's probs more european based than america

[sick pike]

Dainese one is pretty accurate though

The price tags on those things

[cyan wind]

dainese is expensive as shit

richa is what you want

but idk how easy it is to get that shit in the states

[sick pike]

They're on revzilla

[cyan wind]

i'd get richa

i have richa gloves and they're pretty damn good

do some good boots too apparently

[sick pike]

I'm getting alpinestars for boots

[cyan wind]

oh yeah course

there's one merlin jacketi used to use for lessons and it was great

[sick pike]

This one

Tried it on at the store and it was pretty good

Only cause for concern are reviews mentioning the velcro wearing out

This one looks pretty good

[cyan wind]

that looks good

[sick pike]

All season too

[cyan wind]

https://www.sportsbikeshop.co.uk/motorcycle_parts/content_prod/510885

this is what i was looking at

tad bit less than the richa

i've seen vids and they say it lasts forever

[sick pike]

dat impreza

damn

[digital brook]

The Capris

I love Capris

[tulip bramble]

dont last as in bad reliability?

[hazy fable]

Stupid video I made at Zandvoort

[cyan wind]

Yeah

[native cliff]

Is the Dodge Charger STR Hellcat a very good car

Yes no ?

Are there better alternative

(I don't have money to buy a car I just want to culture myself about obvious cars that will never break the speed limit)

[sick pike]

Good at straight lines

Not much else

[native cliff]

Just like any muscle cars

I think it's a very beautiful car but for some weird reason

I feel like between Ford, Chevrolet and Dodge, Dodge has that Racist uncle vibe

[jagged crater]

It's because Dodge haven't tried to waver too much from the Muscle car philosophy relative to Chevrolet and Ford who've gared it more toward Supercar territory

[native cliff]

Oooh

But like apart from that I find the Charger Beautiful

For me it really feels like a stree race car

[jagged crater]

Oh absolutely, they don't look ugly by any means

[tawdry badger]

Wait i have a photo of that car iirc

[pseudo gull]

srt* and depends what you want

comparatively cheap power? definitely

nice enough interior and practical? sure

handling and build quality? nope

[native cliff]

What does this serv thinks about Hybrid Corvette

[tawny geyser]

the e-ray is bloody cool

[peak delta]

Roadtrip through Italy, keys for one, what you are picking?

[cyan wind]

ferrari

[peak delta]

I think the Lambo for me

But it’s close

[tawdry badger]

Honestly none

But cause question Lamborghini

[peak delta]

Yeah fair

[tawdry badger]

I would take a BT62 every time

[peak delta]

Great choice ngl

S-Class for me i think

Nah yk what, 911 4S

[tawdry badger]

My dream car is a challenger SRT Demon Redeye Widebody

[peak delta]

Solid choice

718 Spyder is my dream car tbh

[tawdry badger]

Nice

[velvet echo]

Ferrari of course, not the Audi

[tulip bramble]

ferrari

seems more comfortable for a long drive

[lavish wharf]

the aston martin valkyrie looks like an f1 car with a blanket on top of it

[peak delta]

Probably is tbh

But i think it’s the 812 Comp no?

Roma would’ve been my choice

[tulip bramble]

yepp

[peak delta]

Yeah i wonder how comfortable that thing is

[tulip bramble]

wellp, considering its a track ready supercar

seats definitely gonna be not so comfortable

but comparing your seating position in the 812 comp with the Huracan

812 comps definitely more comfy

[peak delta]

Suspension is probably also more stiff

[tulip bramble]

yepp

[peak delta]

But yeah seating position is a good one

[tulip bramble]

I’d choose a 488 Pista over that 812

Seats look more comfortable

and it still looks flashy

so win-win

[peak delta]

458 for me tbh

[tulip bramble]

I prefer 488’s more, tho 458 still is one of my favourite cars

[peak delta]

Fair

[tulip bramble]

cant think of a comfier substitute for the Huracan

all Lambos look aggressive

[peak delta]

At least Porsche has the Panamera yk

[tulip bramble]

True

[peak delta]

Comfortable 4 door estate

[tulip bramble]

GT cars is definitely Porsches Forte

lovely looks and comfort

[peak delta]

Yep

[tulip bramble]

If its a grand tour, with more car options other than the Ferrari and the Lambo

I’d go for Porsche or BMW

[peak delta]

Yeah makes sense

I’d go Mercedes or Porsche

[peak delta]

https://www.lamborghini.com/en-en/models/concept/estoque Tbh though, this could've been cool

[tawny geyser]

GT3... manual

[peak delta]

👌

[sick pike]

Lambo version of the FF?

[peak delta]

Nah this was one supposed to be a 4 door it seems

[sick pike]

I remember having Hotwheels of that thing as a kid

Shame it didn't go into production

[peak delta]

Yeah i remember it from Need For Speed: World

Really cool concept

[jagged crater]

The Asterion was my vibe, Hybrid V10

https://www.motortrend.com/uploads/sites/11/2015/07/Lamborghini-Asterion-LPI-910-4-Concept-front-three-quarter-in-motion-05.jpg?fit=around|875:492

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CF3QrxnWYAANMFU.jpg:large

[peak delta]

Also a stunner

Also a concept i bet

[winter dragon]

yeah it is just a concept car

really sucks because it does look pretty good, reminds me of the 70s Lamborghinis

[peak delta]

Yeah definitely a 70’s look

[balmy arrow]

Mate, wheeling it through a roundabout at that speed ☠️

[cyan wind]

Great way to kill yourself quick

You only live once I guess

[sick pike]

Kawi's naked bike looks cool too

[dense trellis]

There’s a fine line we need to ride between safe and long but boring life, and insanely enjoyable but dangerous life

There’s a reason I snowboard, mountain bike, and ride motorcycles, but don’t do insanely batshit crazy stuff

[cyan wind]

The Z series gets better with the bigger engines

Their 1000 is sexy

[cyan wind]

Definitely, riding is already dangerous enough and the last thing you need is a truck to not look and you're done by the time you're not even 30 and you've had less time to react because you're going a billion miles an hour

I'll gladly test out what I can do on a bike, but you stick on a fine line between crashing and staying on ghe road

[dense trellis]

Treat riding like your invisible while everyone else is trying to kill you

[fossil gulch]

It’s all about risk assessment and doing things that are within the bounds of what risks you deem acceptable

[dense trellis]

Yeah

[tawdry badger]

Hey

[cyan wind]

Best way to teach riding honestly

I was literally wearing high vis on a yellow bike and I'd still get cut off on my lessons lmfao

[fossil gulch]

But doing dumb shit on the road (or anywhere in public) doesn’t just put yourself at risk, it puts others who haven’t accepted those risks at danger of suffering the consequences

[cyan wind]

that's exactly what I was going to mention aswell

you do dumb shit by yourself, don't put others in your shit

[fossil gulch]

We rode in packs of 12 bikers for our classes and people still tried to cut into us

If you wanna squid/hoon/send it, just do it responsibly

[cyan wind]

fuckin 12

jesus

how many instructors were with you?

[fossil gulch]

2

Actually 1

[cyan wind]

that's ridiculous

the most my instructor can do at once is 2 people

[fossil gulch]

I mean they also made us go 160kph in a 100 zone and got salty when I refused to

[cyan wind]

how fast is 160 like 85 or something?

[fossil gulch]

100mph

Don’t give me a rebel 500 with a death wobble if you expect me to do that speed

[dense trellis]

My wr tops out at like 85mph

[cyan wind]

I cannot imagine doing 80 let alone 100, the 125 I was on did 75 and it started to feel light and shat a brick

[fossil gulch]

The driving school I went to likes to flex that they are the only school without a student death or serious injury

[cyan wind]

how lovely

[fossil gulch]

All our bikes were 500’s

[cyan wind]

fair play

[cyan wind]

Over here it's really strict, the bike I usually did lessons on did 65 at most and downhill leaned in was 75

I really wish I could just start on a 300

[dense trellis]

Yeah, I’m riding with my dad for a year (he’s been riding 20+ years and raced supermoto in the early 2010s) and he’s just having me take it slow and slowly ramp it up which is perfect for learning, i got my bike back in early January but I’ve done some small stuff, still no highways of any sorta but gone on main roads, decent at clutch control and keeping it smooth, etc.

Idk why it responded to your message

[cyan wind]

lmfao

[fossil gulch]

I don’t really see the point starting on something tiny like a 125.

They are so light that you can really cheat when it comes to turning and low speed maneuvers

So it’s quite easy to develop bad habits

[cyan wind]

I'm only doing it cus I don't want to wait 2 years and have zero actual road experience when getting a big bike, and insurance will be through the roof

[cyan wind]

That's also why I'm gonna do a few lessons on bigger bikes when I can to get rid of some of them

[fossil gulch]

Honestly, CC isn’t the defining factor. It’s where the weight is and how engine is

[cyan wind]

For sure

You're on a 400 ain't you

[fossil gulch]

Yup

I’ve ridden a cb500 and rebel 500 and a boulevard 805

[cyan wind]

Is there alot of engine braking, because on the cbf I go on there's a shit ton

[fossil gulch]

The 805cc boulevard was probably the easiest to ride

Despite weighing more than a battleship

[cyan wind]

For sure, the Kawasaki I did my cbt on was ridiculously easy to turn, but then I tried turning my dad's zr750, and i could barely do it lmfao

[fossil gulch]

Not really that much but I’ve only ridden my ninja around 20-30km so that opinion might change

[cyan wind]

Fair enough

The cbf has an unreal amount of engine braking, but it teaches you to be smooth at the same time

I'm just interested to see how the varadero goes, my old man rates it highly and people say its great and has a 'big bike feel'

About as big bike as a 125 gets lol

[sick pike]

I really want an Africa twin when I'm more experienced

[cyan wind]

I love the africa twin

[fossil gulch]

Me too but I’m a Manlet so that’s not happening

[cyan wind]

lmfao, I'll probably settle for a versys or something eventually

[sick pike]

I have no idea if I can even sit on it

[cyan wind]

Let me check their seat height

[fossil gulch]

You can always get lowering kits /lower seats

[sick pike]

34.3"

[cyan wind]

850-870mm, fuckin hell

bit tall

[fossil gulch]

It’s massive

My dad rides an XR and it looks tiny next to an Africa twin

[cyan wind]

I really want to try that ktm adv

[sick pike]

I think Ill probably get taller

[cyan wind]

It's fucking ridiculously massive

[fossil gulch]

All the KTMs are massive

I’m surprised their 125cc bikes aren’t somehow taller than a KLR

[sick pike]

The versys doesn't look as cool as the AT imo

[cyan wind]

Idk I love them both

The versys has a great touring look and the at looks a bit more off road

[fossil gulch]

Get a KLR and you can have none of the looks and none of the performance

But they are cheeeeeap

[cyan wind]

I want to try a sports tourer aswell

there's alot I want to try

[fossil gulch]

The ninja 400 is legally a sport touring

[sick pike]

Weirdly enough I like the looks of the klr 650 though

[cyan wind]

that cannot be comfy for more than like 50 miles

[fossil gulch]

I just love the fact that kawi made a carbureted bike up until 2020

And then added EFI and changed nothing else and are still selling it

[sick pike]

Honda has a new model that's carbureted

[cyan wind]

kawasaki H2 SX is what I want to try

[sick pike]

Crf150l or whatever it was

Xr150l

There we go

There's also the navi

[fossil gulch]

My first ride this spring to bring the bike from my dads garage to my pace Is around 200 miles so I’ll let you know lmao

[sick pike]

My second option to the AT was the r1250 GS but that's also the same height

[cyan wind]

Please do lmfao

[cyan wind]

Could probs get a lowering kit

[fossil gulch]

Suzuki VSTROM or the Super Tenerè are pretty comfy if you are on the short side of things

[cyan wind]

I know atleast multistradas do it

[sick pike]

I don't like the looks of the v Strom

Tenere looks pretty cool though

[fossil gulch]

I couldn’t even get the R1250 off the kickstand when I tried lmao

[sick pike]

Ok hold on I do not vibe with those headlights

[fossil gulch]

Some other guy the same height as me looked me dead in the eye and said “forget it man, it’s not happening “

[cyan wind]

LMFAO

unlucky dude

Thing is I could probably get on a few of them, but riding them is a different story

My arms are like sticks and I cannot imagine having to turn them alot in shittier traffic or close quarters

[fossil gulch]

Adv bikes are ment for tight turns so it’s probably not that bad

[cyan wind]

Yeah I'll just need to hit the gym a bit to turn the bastards lol

[fossil gulch]

But I’d pay money to see someone navigating inner London rush hour on a gold wing

[cyan wind]

My eyes water imagining thaf

[fossil gulch]

Over 1 ton loaded

[cyan wind]

My dad's versys hates traffic, we were sitting in a bit of standstill and he mentioned he could already feel it getting warm because those things hate sitting around

[cyan wind]

Fuck everything about that

[fossil gulch]

1200 pounds is Honda’s maximum limit

300 pounds less than a fiat panda

[cyan wind]

Yeah that's ridiculous

I seriously cannot imagine how heavy that is in standstill

also a reminder to go buy earplugs if you haven't already

And looking at the time it's a good time to adios for a bit, 2am and I've got to be up for 9 lol

[fossil gulch]

Adios

[cyan wind]

Good chatting with you vase and VTOL

[dense trellis]

[sick pike]

Saw someone lane splitting in an old goldwing earlier

[twin belfry]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0P6_9jcBNw

[tulip bramble]

still thinking if I should get a Z650, CB650R or an MT-07

I can flat foot those bikes so only thing to learn on it more is its power

Z650’s in Kawi green looks hot

[unborn galleon]

What car is this?

[tulip bramble]

looks like a Mustang

but its definitely a Kit Car

not an actual stang judging by its looks

[half orchid]

New Alfa Romeo GTS 👑

[peak delta]

Interesting design

Challenger vibes

Anyway

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsxPZXb49fs

[fathom rose]

this car needs more attention

[twin belfry]

The CT5?

[tulip bramble]

impound or auction lot?

[fathom rose]

Auction

[fathom rose]

Yessir

[twin belfry]

The little knob on the wheel’s pretty cool, especially the no-lift-shift tech as well

Powershifting for days

[fathom rose]

OH-

Now gotta find a way to get my hands on that

[velvet echo]

I was saying CTS instead of CT5 my whole life

💀

[tawny geyser]

much prefer to the urus, sounds better too

[twin belfry]

The CTS is a different car from the CT5

[velvet echo]

oh

I learn something today

I really need to improve my Americans cars knowledge

[peak delta]

Not sure how i feel about the looks tbh

[tawny geyser]

rory reid (auto trader) says he prefers the looks to other cars in ferraris current range

[peak delta]

Does he?

[tawny geyser]

i see it, especially with the suicide doors, theyre gorgeoues

[peak delta]

It doesn't look better than the Roma imo

And the F8 looks lovely

[tawny geyser]

he thinks its prettier than the roma (debatable, 296 (yes) and sf90 (yes)

[peak delta]

[flat gyro]

I like the Roma

Especially from the front

[peak delta]

Yeah there is a reason i hardly even listen to automotive journalists

Roma and the F8 both look great

F8 is not quite 458 level but it works

[flat gyro]

458 is a classic

[tawny geyser]

roma is a flattened purosangue lol

well journos have their opinions like you

[peak delta]

The Purosangue looks hella confused

[flat gyro]

I'm not a huge fan of the Purosangne

[tawny geyser]

its the best looking of the fast suvs

[flat gyro]

I like the Urus or the Q8 better

[peak delta]

It looks like it's a Roma that got hideously mutated

[flat gyro]

Yeah lol

[tawny geyser]

the urus is such a con when the q8 exists

[peak delta]

I'm more of a LM002 enjoyer

[flat gyro]

I saw one of those Aston Martin SUV and it confused me. Then I remembered that Aston actually made an SUV

[tawny geyser]

id just save my money and have a m3 touring

[flat gyro]

I love the Q8

[peak delta]

The DBX is a Vantage with an addiction to steroids

[tawny geyser]

theres a twat around me with a rsq8, who has more money than sense. he sends it at like 70mph round residential areas

[flat gyro]

I would love an RS6 avant but I'm not made of money

[peak delta]

I'm just hoping that Aston slaps the V12 into the Vantage again

[tawny geyser]

they have

[flat gyro]

Lmao

[peak delta]

Pog

[tawny geyser]

https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/aston-martin/vantage/357951/new-aston-martin-v12-vantage-2022-review

[peak delta]

Nice

[tawny geyser]

he was linked with this... i believe

[peak delta]

Kek

Did the roll that or something

[flat gyro]

I always loved the vantages

[peak delta]

Yeah same

[flat gyro]

Bruuuuhhh

[tawny geyser]

him and his mates run a posh indian restaurant down the road, always see m bmws and amg mercs circulating

[flat gyro]

My favorite astons are the Zagatos

Love those things

So expensive though

[tawny geyser]

the best zagato

[peak delta]

Yes

[tawny geyser]

wagooooooon

[flat gyro]

Kinda reminds me of the breadvan

[peak delta]

Someone in my town has one of these

Aston Martin Rapide lmao

[flat gyro]

Literally a ford

[peak delta]

Yeah

[jagged crater]

https://cdn.visordown.com/field/image/zx4r.png

new zx4r fr fr

[cyan wind]

sexy if it wasn't painfully overpriced

[fossil gulch]

And offered in a color other than that green color

I don’t care that it’s Kawasaki’s iconic color, me no like it

[fossil gulch]

1k more than a ninja 650

[cyan wind]

mental

it better be fuckin good with a pricetag like that

[fossil gulch]

I’m still salty they haven’t released a verseys with the engine of the ninja 400

Like it still uses the old ass motor from the old ninja 300

[cyan wind]

they probs will soon, and overprice it to shit

[jagged crater]

In the US they'll be ridiculously detuned to redline at 11,500 to make 56~ bhp as opposed to a 16,000rpm redline with 76.4bhp @ 15,000

[tulip bramble]

there’s no Versys 400 yeah?

prolly the reason it doesnt use N400 engines

[tulip bramble]

New bike moment

ZX25R’s are priced around the same as used ‘21 Ninja 650’s

and its a fucken 250

[sick pike]

woule be the perfect versys for me imo

ill settle on the 300 for now

i have no idea what engine guard i wanna put on it though

or a top box

[tulip bramble]

get side bags

[sick pike]

i want something to put my helmet in

plus i dont think id be comfortable in carrying cargo yet

[open acorn]

Introducing my first car!

[velvet echo]

A3?

[open acorn]

2009 A3 8P

[velvet echo]

looks good

[open acorn]

ty ty

[peak delta]

https://youtu.be/j1CWdvoevR0

[tawdry badger]

My uncle has an FF

Shit that ain't a FF

[peak delta]

FF do be cool ngl

[tawdry badger]

Yes it's also a nice car when your in it

[cyan wind]

this is the way

a top box is a great way to make sure your bike looks ugly

[tulip bramble]

Vtol does want a top box for helmet reasons

I cant think of ways riders puts away their helmet when they leave their bike unattended

unless bringing it with them orrr leaving it on their bike and wish that no one steals it

[cyan wind]

yeah fair enough

most of the time i see them they're never used and it just looks a bit miff if you're not using it

yeah it's either top box or you get a lock and put it on the handlebars

[tulip bramble]

you can do backpacks as well if you cant be assed to hand carry your helmet

[cyan wind]

only issue with that obvs is you'll have fuck all bag space after that, and it is a bit heavy on your back depending on your helmet

[sick pike]

I could hang it from the loops on my backpack but I already have a lot of stuff in there

And I don't wanna carry more weight

[sturdy rampart]

what are ur thoughts on royal enfield

and electric cars

[tawny geyser]

electric cars are cool

[velvet echo]

yep but not for the planet

[pseudo gull]

budget triumph and you can very much tell the difference, but still okay bikes

[glad lark]

Royal Enfield is overrated

[pseudo gull]

lol no they aren’t

not many people rate them at all

[glad lark]

Well atleast in my area/region

[pseudo gull]

india?

[glad lark]

South India specifically

[pseudo gull]

ahhh yeah

they sell well in that sort of region

[glad lark]

Its considered as a status symbol even though almost everyone has one

[pseudo gull]

[glad lark]

Its also unnecessarily loud for the amount of power they make

[cyan wind]

yeah, that's when a top box or just a helmet lock is helpful

[sick pike]

Idk what brands make top boxes besides givi and shad

The ones i've looked at so far look ugly as hell

[cyan wind]

could get those metal ones, but even as topboxes they look out of place

shad's doesn't look terrible for what it is

[tulip bramble]

how about dont wear a helmet so you dont have to worry about where to put it?

(for legal reasons its a joke)

[cyan wind]

i mean you could do that in some states

[tulip bramble]

[cyan wind]

honestly some top boxes don't look as bad, i just can't stand those cheap ones with the red highlights

like these

[tulip bramble]

same

kills the look of bikes

[cyan wind]

like these look nowhere near as bad, the bottom right is a chonky though

[tulip bramble]

bottom right looks like a cooler

but doesnt look half bad

its purdy decent I’d say

[cyan wind]

imo the top left is the best one

[tulip bramble]

looks a bit too slim for a helmet

[cyan wind]

my main thing about them is they make the bike look even longer

it looks like this, when really i wished it'd look like this

[tulip bramble]

yepp

looks like a hanging fruit as well

[tulip bramble]

yeah like that

[cyan wind]

that's why i prefer sidebags, they don't push out the end

sure it make the bikes wider but it fits better

[tulip bramble]

are side bags big enough for a helmet existent?

[cyan wind]

depends on the sidebag, but maybe?

it'll probs be a bit awkward to get out though

[tulip bramble]

yepp

[cyan wind]

yeah thye can fit

[tulip bramble]

Tank Bags

I like this

problem is, if they’re too big, you wont be able to see the speedometer

[cyan wind]

i'm not sure how i feel about them

[tulip bramble]

I like them

[cyan wind]

some of them look massive

[tulip bramble]

unlike sidebags, you get a detachable storage space

that you can bring around

[cyan wind]

if it was a little one just to carry electronics or whatever, then that sounds good

[tulip bramble]

oh yepp

like the one in the pic

[cyan wind]

but shit like this for the tank is wild

20 fuckin litres

[tulip bramble]

good enough for phone, wallet and other stuff

[cyan wind]

yeah that's not bad at all

could stuff a medic kit in there aswell

[tulip bramble]

Yep, and you still have a good view for the speedometer

slick and spacious

[cyan wind]

yeah if it fits then it'll probs be great, but trying to fit 20l on your tank on a smaller bike is mad

[tulip bramble]

wild

[cyan wind]

like those big ones are made for big bikes yano

but shoving a massive one on your 125 will just not fit and will make vision to your dash even harde

[tulip bramble]

you’ll prolly end up having the hug the tank bag as well just to reach the handles

[cyan wind]

exactly lmfao

the small ones look nice

[tulip bramble]

yepp, looks fitting

even for small bikes

[cyan wind]

like this looks great, only if you aren't using your phone as a gps

[tulip bramble]

I think the 20L ones gonna work best if you’re doing trails and stuff

[cyan wind]

yeah

it's gonna work best if you actually need it

[tulip bramble]

since you prolly wont have to look at your speedometer that much

[tulip bramble]

yepp

[cyan wind]

most of the time all you'll use is a backpack and a top box or sidebags

also the most singlehandedly expensive coat hanger you'll ever get

[tulip bramble]

well, I’ll get a bike for school reasons, considering school I’m going to is around 70km’s away from my home town, and I’ll only be able to go back home at least 2-3 times a month

I’ll only need a backpack

change of clothes and personal belongings

[cyan wind]

yeah mine will be shorts commute and off to see family, so i'd probably bring the same

just some clothes and phone charger and whatnot

[tulip bramble]

yepp

do wish I can get a bike after my senior year

[cyan wind]

i hope to have a new bike soon

i just want to see my dad and other relatives who live far away for the most part

and also get out of my home city, it's getting worse here lol

[tulip bramble]

I just want a source of transportation where I’ll get enough adrenaline to put a smile on my face

tho despite that, riding on expressways sounds scary

[cyan wind]

is an expressway just a motorway

[tulip bramble]

yepp

[cyan wind]

i had a very short stint to get through a road that was shut off, and it's honestly nothing to be afraid of

i was just told to keep checking my mirrors abt every 30 ish seconds just to be aware of who's around you, and if anyone does anything stupid, just keep two seconds behind them

[tulip bramble]

taking notes, thanks honour

[cyan wind]

for sure, awareness and being predictable is the core of it

and don't predict the expected, that'll always go wrong

and dear god don't ride while tired, because you will crash

[sick pike]

Harley rider wearing full gear and bright colors???

[cyan wind]

a sensible harley rider?

damn

[tulip bramble]

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Co-w5LVOP1V/?igshid=MDJmNzVkMjY=

@cyan wind

[peak delta]

https://youtu.be/hK5KkOC-8Vc

[cyan wind]

Its ridiculous

What baffles me is even some states don't require you to wear a helmet

[tulip bramble]

In small towns here in the Philippines, helmets are rarely worn

if ever helmets are present, they’re those Pro Tec lookin helmets

[cyan wind]

yeah

most of the time here since most bikers are delivery, they have those half face with a visor

which always confused me, because you may aswell just get a modular

[tulip bramble]

traffic marshals in smaller towns could care less about riders not wearing helmets

however in big places

such as Manila

its a different story

Jeans, Shoes and Full Face Helmet are the stuff LTO(Philippines DMV) requires for bigger places

[fossil gulch]

My grandmother and her BF absolutely hate wearing helmets but since they are legally required here, they bought the cheapest, least protecting ones and wear them backwards to “protest”

[jagged crater]

... Bruh

[cyan wind]

christ 💀

how can you hate wearing a helmet

[jagged crater]

The last time a group had a helmet protest one of em died from an injury to the head a helmet would've prevented

[tulip bramble]

ironic

wait should I be laughing?

[cyan wind]

https://twitter.com/JamesGangRacing/status/1634007445369495555

Paul James (@JamesGangRacing)

Baggers at Daytona doing 179+! 👀

Twitter · Mar 10, 2023, 1:45 AM

[twin belfry]

I wanna see a Honda Goldwing made for motorcycle road racing

[peak delta]

Old people moment

[peak delta]

https://tenor.com/view/karma-taylor-swift-smile-gif-14417028

[twin belfry]

Poor DR30…

[sick pike]

Bruh

32>34 any day

Even though I absolutely love the 34, no way in hell is it better than the 32

[twin belfry]

I honestly thought that the R35 would've gotten more votes, but considering how it's been milked beyond comprehension, up to the point where it got boring, I can see why it got 15% of votes

[sick pike]

35 is bland at this point

Doesn't have the rare status of the other cars

Everyone and their mom has seen one at some point

[tulip bramble]

Hakosuka and R33 for me

R33’s are hoooot

[twin belfry]

Good choice

[cyan wind]

wild how overrated the r34 is

[cyan wind]

https://youtube.com/shorts/C0HiSUhDH6I?feature=share great quick video about red-lights @sick pike @tulip bramble

[tulip bramble]

aye I know that dude

mans also filipino

[sick pike]

adobo as his username is a very big hint

[tulip bramble]

yepp

[peak delta]

R-32 and Hakosuka for me please

[tawny geyser]

dont think its overrated... given its a brilliant piece of kit

[cyan wind]

Nice bit of kit but the fact it completely dominates over other nice bits of kit is insane

[earnest dew]

hey everyone, can someone recommend me a dashcam? my price range is $150-200 USD. im looking for something reliable, front/rear recording, preferably 1440p. a good accompanying app is also something id really want, but not necessary if there is a good dashcam that ticks the other boxes. please let me know if you guys know any good ones, thanks. please @ me with any recommendations

[cyan wind]

https://youtube.com/shorts/FZOagBY-nE4?feature=share you learn something everyday, now I know why my wrists hurt so much when riding lol

[sick pike]

Viofos a pretty good brand

Mom has an a129 pro duo works well but the parking mode doesn't work

Probably because it's installed wrong or something

Never really bothered to fix it

https://www.blackboxmycar.com/pages/viofo-a129-plus-duo-review

[earnest dew]

@sick pike thanks ill check that out

do you know if it works well with window tint?

my rear window is 5 percent tint

[sick pike]

I think it should?

I'll check tomorrow

When my mom's home

Rear windows tinted and there's a cam there

[lethal tundra]

I found this Nissan Sentra today

[earnest dew]

@sick pike hey do you know if it came with a sd card or do i have to buy one?

[sick pike]

it doesnt

there is a version with onboard storage but it only has 16 gigs

most sites dont sell that version though i think

[dense trellis]

Nah nah nah that’s a Nissan Sunny

[cosmic jetty]

ikr cant believe ppl cant differentiate between sentra's and sunny's

[tulip bramble]

@cyan wind just saw a Suzuki SV650

I checked out the headers up front and only saw one pipe and the bike had thick tires, wondered how a single cylinder bike produced enough power for it to have a thick tire

just found out it was a V-Twin

did notice that the underbelly had 2 pipes but didnt came to mind that suzuki had v-twins

[cyan wind]

yeah they're usually the first a2 someone buys

reliable and cheap iirc

[tulip bramble]

around the same range as 2017 MT-07s and 2021 Z650’s

I’d still choose MT-07’s

but gotta love the V-twin sound of the SV650

[cyan wind]

for me its between the mt and the z

SV's are nice but they're not entirely my thing

[tulip bramble]

same

not really a fan of Suzukis

[cyan wind]

their nakeds are cool but the sportier ones just make me thing squid

[tulip bramble]

true Gixxers looks mid

still has that y2k alien look

except the ‘22 GSXR1k ig

but yeah, still not my stuff

GSX-S’ however

[cyan wind]

yeah they're quit nice

there is nicer nakeds out there though

[native cliff]

what I will say doesn't make sense

but what is the difference between the Bmw M1 to M8

like

In Porsche for exemple

there is GT3, which is the best of the 911, and the GT2, same but smaller

and gt4, top of the 718

etc

[sick pike]

the numbers refer to size i think

1 is compact while 8 is full size

[native cliff]

is it in order of quality ?

like the 8 the best and 1 the worst

or really just size

[sick pike]

size

2dr hatchback vs 4 dr sedan

[sick pike]

anyone in NA know a good insurance company for motorcycles?

[earnest dew]

@sick pike thanks for the advice, i went with your recommendation

[fossil gulch]

You gotta be more specific than that since not all insurance companies cover all states/provinces

[fathom rose]

I've been needing to look at dashcams. Let us know what you think of that one

[earnest dew]

👍

this one should be good, i also saw on r/dashcams its one of the most popular options that people choose

ill let you know how it is once i install it and test it out

[sick pike]

np

[sick pike]

cali

i googled and it seems like progressive's a good one

[earnest dew]

i use progressive

they are good but customer service is not that great/efficient

by good i mean ive never had to deal with them with any issues i had with coverage

but when i got a flat tire, they had me on hold forever and said it would take 2 hours for a tow truck to come get me. i called hyundai roadside assistance and they had a truck out to me within 25 minutes

meanwhile both progressive and hyundai roadside assistance use triple A trucks, which was weird on progressives part. that was the only time i had a bad experience firsthand with them

[fossil gulch]

Check with your parents/workplace, you can maybe get some pretty cheap insurance that way

[earnest dew]

i just received the package and it looks great. included pry tool and cable clips. they also include a microsd to usb reader which is super convenient

[sick pike]

Another thing I forgot to mention is that viofos phone app isn't the best but it works

[earnest dew]

yeah i saw that

most of the asian brands do not have good apps

gotta go with nexar/garmin to get a good app but those are way too expensive for me

[earnest dew]

the other features of the dashcam and its price make up for a bad app. the rest of the dash cam is great value so i dont mind a subpar app

did a lot of research and many people pick this one

[tulip bramble]

true

Z1000 looks outdated

But I guess the saying “Something perfect shouldn’t be changed” or something like that, applies to the Z1k

[native cliff]

what's the difference between M3 and M4

cause I find on BMW site that M5 is Sedan, but I can also find it Coupe

so do those numbers really correspond to the Length

size*

[cyan wind]

I don't think so

Even if it is old it's definitely aged well

The older ones do look a bit outdated, but the new ones are fire

[native cliff]

like the M1 is the slowest and M8 the fastest?

I'm so fucking lost

[twin belfry]

I don’t think that’s how that works

[tulip bramble]

oh definitely

aged like fine wine

[native cliff]

I'm so lost

why don't they make them easy

[tulip bramble]

yepp, something perfect looking doesnt need to be changed

1st pic is 2014 and 2nd is 2023

[tulip bramble]

nope

just standard german car manufacturer stuff

[native cliff]

THE NUMBERS MASON WHAT DO THEY MEAN

[tulip bramble]

numbers numbers numbers numbers

[tulip bramble]

just model names

like Mazda’s

[native cliff]

yeah but Mazda

[tulip bramble]

or Porsches

[native cliff]

it's Rx-6, rx,7

etc

[tulip bramble]

Porsches much more confusing with generations

[tulip bramble]

Mazda 3, Mazda 4, 5 and so on

[native cliff]

yeah

the higher number

the more recent

no ?

[tulip bramble]

nope

[twin belfry]

BNR32
BCNR33
BNR34

[tulip bramble]

nah

take porsche for example

[native cliff]

ye

718

911

[tulip bramble]

after the Porsche 911 (997) you’d think 998 generation is next

[native cliff]

992

[tulip bramble]

but nope

[tulip bramble]

but nope, 911 (991)

[native cliff]

😐

[tulip bramble]

German manufacturers are confusing with their model names

especially mercedes

for BMW you only have to know single digit numbers with a letter

Mercedes went “fuck it” and put 3 digit numbers and single or double letters

[native cliff]

the thing is also some of them are outdated

cause bmw fucked up the design

so the M4 has the weird grill

the new m2 is Chinese bodykit

[tulip bramble]

I honestly prefer BMWs previous gen of cars

[native cliff]

yeah

[tulip bramble]

new Beamers has weird grills

[native cliff]

so M5 is four doors ?

[tulip bramble]

M5 is a coupe iirc

[native cliff]

did you see the new M2 ?

[tulip bramble]

oh nvm

[native cliff]

goofy car

also weird they propose the M5 in coupe

[tulip bramble]

M5 is a 4 door ye

[native cliff]

and sedan

also the M4 is two doors like m3

so what differentiates

[tulip bramble]

M8 hottest Beamer

[native cliff]

Real

[tulip bramble]

nah M3’s a 4 door

M4 a coupe

[native cliff]

so

what

M2 M4 Coupe

M3 M5 sedan

I gues M4>M2 and M5>M3

[tulip bramble]

seems like it