So Piers lost his life in a DeTomaso?
#classic-motorsport
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yes
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Yeah
spring ocean
Similar, but Alonso do that with 2 different teams
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Nice pictures
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That low revving V12 that sounded amazing
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Everybody talks about Alonsos Ferrari campaign in 2012 but not Laudas title campaign in 1977
Lauda won the 1977 title with 2 races left to go when Ferrari was arguably the 3rd or 4th fastest car
as the McLarens and Lotuses were consistently quicker and even the Wolff at times being faster
twin pewter
It really did sound good ye
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Everybody talks about Alonsos Ferrari campaign in 2012 but not Laudas title camp...
Niki should've won the 1976 season. He was absolutely dominating the season before his horrific crash at the German grand prix
frozen prism
should be a 4x world champion
frozen prism
now would he have left Ferrari after 77 without the Nurb crash
probably not
even Lauda himself said he regretted leaving Ferrari
but the actions that Ferrari imposed after Laudas incident were the reason he left
not to mention they replaced Regazzoni in '77 with Reutemann
who was Laudas temporary replacement
and they replaced Regazzoni just because they were mad at Lauda
and Lauda and Reutemann never got along with each other that well
all because Lauda did not want to die in the season finale at Fuji in the '76 season
frozen prism
yeah
if it has an MTV
then its Simtek i guess
not to mention
the logo on the bottom of the nose
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This is a Simtek, no?
yes that looks to be the 94 model
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I thought so
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actually no, it's the 95
forgot it's with Pacific that the Lotus peeps went, not with Simtek
frozen prism
I have quite an interesting theory
what if Williams went with the raised nose design that Benetton had in 1994
would it have prevented Sennas death
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could be, problem is just that the aero was (at first) too similar to the 93 aero, but without the aids to make it stable enough
covert orchid
Jim Clark's Lotus
mellow lava
F21 oynayan Türk var mıdır acaba?
covert orchid
would it have prevented Sennas death
No the floor touched the ground, not the front wing
covert orchid
2 of the cars I've seen today
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day 14 of f1 first wins
stirling moss - 1955 british gp
meager pewter
This is a Simtek, no?
Ooooo, tasteful
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day 14 of f1 first wins
stirling moss - 1955 british gp
Why did they have an open wheel W196 aswell?
Surely the streamliner is better in every department.
frozen prism
No the floor touched the ground, not the front wing
if your talking about the bottoming out theory
that has been pretty much almost if not already debunked
what im talking about is that the aerodynamic issues of the FW16 were caused by a bunch of problems that could have led to Sennas decision to extend the steering column and causing his death
like how the FW16 was for the most part just a slightly enhanced FW15 without technological aids
if they had reworked the aero properly through some options like using the raised nose instead of the sloped nose that they had been using since 1991 it could have solved or lessened the instability problems that the FW16 suffered
but thats just my theory
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Modified 96’ Williams FW18 with narrow suspension and grooved tires
Barelcona Test
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DC still with the squarest face you can find
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Why did they have an open wheel W196 aswell?
Surely the streamliner is better i...
lower drag also means less grip
idle gale
Not many people know about this but apparently Ferrari had a secret F1 car with a high nose design that was ultimately rejected in favor of John Barnard's 641 design, which supposedly inspired the high nose of the 1990 Tyrell since I believe some of the Ferrari engineers had left for Tyrell
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DC still with the squarest face you can find
Lol yeah
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Not many people know about this but apparently Ferrari had a secret F1 car with ...
quite ironic that Alesi moved from Tyrrell to Ferrari
and still sad considering he could have moved to Williams
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Alesi would’ve done more than what Patrese could’ve achieved during his time with the team. (No offense to Patrese of course.)
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Not many people know about this but apparently Ferrari had a secret F1 car with ...
yes Jean Claude Migeot was at Ferrari and left alongside Harvey Postlethwaite for Tyrrell.
Barnard brought in the sequential gearbox tho, imagine if they had that high nose as well
covert orchid
if your talking about the bottoming out theory
Ye I still believe in the safety car cooling down the tyres and making them shrink just enough for the car to be upset by it, but the steering column did also break so it's like a mixed bag for me lol
frozen prism
Ye I still believe in the safety car cooling down the tyres and making them shri...
the reason the cool tires and bottomed out theory is basically debunked is because the crash should have happened the lap prior then as the tires were cooler and the circumstances were higher for the car to bottom out and crash over Tamburello, second as Ive analyzed the onboard probably a hundred times at this point it is evident you never see the tires move at all in any direction, and the counter-steer theory is already debunked when you see he does not steer right erratically at all, and also the erratic movement of the steering wheel going downwards to the point you dont even see it in the point of view anymore and with Williams' counter-argument saying that such movement is normal, you never see any of that erratic movement on either Williams car before during or after Imola, and having such movement to the steering wheel is nearly if not a fatal feature to have as it limits steering
covert orchid
Ok broski
hybrid mango
So OTD we got some Britain races which one you want to review
1️⃣ 1976
2️⃣ 1981
3️⃣ 2021 (On #f1-hq-photos-and-videos)
hybrid mango
You made a choice
18.07.81
Formula 1 1981 Marlboro British Grand Prix Race Results🇬🇧
1.J.Watson🇬🇧 (McLaren-Ford) 1h26m54.800s
2.C.Reutemann🇦🇷 (Williams-Ford)+40.650s
3.J.Laffite🇫🇷 (Ligier-Matra)+1 Lap
4.E.Cheever🇺🇸 (Tyrrell-Ford)+1 Lap
5.H.Rebaque🇲🇽 (Brabham-Ford)+1 Lap
6.S.Borgudd🇸🇪 (ATS-Ford)+1 Lap
7.D.Daly🇮🇪 (March-Ford)+2 Laps
8.J.Pierre Jarier🇫🇷 (Osella-Ford)+3 Laps
9.R.Arnoux🇫🇷 (Renault)+4 Laps
10.R.Patrese🇮🇹 (Arrows-Ford)+4 Laps
11.M.Surer🇨🇭 (Theodore-Ford)+7 Laps
DNF.M.Andretti🇺🇸 (Alfa Romeo)
DNF.K.Rosberg🇫🇮 (Fittipaldi-Ford)
DNF.A.Prost🇫🇷 (Renault)
DNF.P.Tambay🇫🇷 (Ligier-Matra)
DNF.D.Pironi🇫🇷 (Ferrari)
DNF.N.Piquet🇧🇷 (Brabham-Ford)
DNF.B.Giacomelli🇮🇹 (Alfa Romeo)
DNF.G.Villeneuve🇨🇦 (Ferrari)
DNF.A.Jones🇦🇺 (Williams-Ford)
DNF.A.De Cesaris🇮🇹 (McLaren-Ford)
DNF.M.Alboreto🇮🇹 (Tyrrell-Ford)
DNF.S.Stohr🇮🇹 (Arrows-Ford)
DSQ.E.De Angelis🇮🇹 (Lotus-Ford)
DNQ.C.Serra🇧🇷 (Fittipaldi-Ford)
DNQ.B.Henton🇬🇧 (Toleman-Hart)
DNQ.N.Mansell🇬🇧 (Lotus-Ford)
DNQ.E.Salazar🇨🇱 (Ensign-Ford)
DNQ.D.Warwrick🇬🇧 (Toleman-Hart)
DNQ.B.Gabbiani🇮🇹 (Osella-Ford)
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First win for the McLaren MP4
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Watching F1 France Magny Course 98'
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day 15 of f1 first wins
luigi musso - 1956 argentine gp
meager pewter
That's gorgeous, what?
round swift
That's gorgeous, what?
Yeah it looks Beautiful
Can you notice the grooved tires?
It’s pretty hard for me to see them
meager pewter
Naaah they're fairly easily... I think the tippy bit is that for 98 the fronts had 3 grooves
Rather than all 4 having 4 from 1999 onward
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Just finished now, watching all F1 France races from 1990 (full lenght, both magny course and paul ricard)
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I mean like what on
Italian SKY Sport F1, esclusive
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Lotus 63 maybe??? Not really sure
How’s there a Lotus 63 and a 49 on the same grid
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How Mirage prolly died in Transformers 1986.
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just imagine if they had an F1 car Transformer
that would be a pretty interesting idea
meager pewter
just imagine if they had an F1 car Transformer
Now to bring up that customer 1986-1988 BMW's were branded Megatrons
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https://tilallaremine.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/mirage-alts.jpg
oh ive seen one of those but just assumed it was some wacky indycar toy or something
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... Transformers are Whacky toys
Also that second gen is very much an IndyCar basis
Vry Lola T92/00
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... Transformers are Whacky toys
yeah and the really good ones cost quite a penny
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Also that second gen is very much an IndyCar basis
with the humongous sidepods and that rear wing
meager pewter
That's like if a 1990-1992 Lola had a modern day floor width and a Coyote Rear Wing
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All ik is that it’s a Brabham
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it looks just like the Lotus wtf
There was a while where Brabham used the british racing green along yellow instead of gold before using the full white livery that would lead to the martini livery
Why? Tbh idk but yeah, it looked like the lotus before they introduced commercial sponsors
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Now to bring up that customer 1986-1988 BMW's were branded Megatrons
Just for Arrows and I think Ligier in 1987. Ik in 1986 Benetton and Brabham still had the BMW logos
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probably same body frame
nope they just really liked green and yellow
they also used similar colors in their title years
but with a clear distinction between the Lotus colors
edgy chasm
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ive spent months trying to find one of those collecter series hot wheels that i can afford
hybrid mango
OTD
19.07.75
Formula 1 1975 John Player British Grand Prix Race Results🇬🇧
1.E.Fittipaldi🇧🇷 (McLaren-Ford) 1h22m05.000s
2.C.Pace🇧🇷 (Brabham-Ford)+1 Lap
3.J.Scheckter🇿🇦 (Tyrrell-Ford)+1 Lap
4.J.Hunt🇬🇧 (Hesketh-Ford)+1 Lap
5.M.Donohue🇺🇸 (March-Ford)+1 Lap
6.V.Brambilla🇮🇹 (March-Ford)+1 Lap
7.J.Mass🇩🇪 (McLaren-Ford)+1 Lap
8.N.Lauda🇦🇹 (Ferrari)+2 Laps
9.P.Depailler🇫🇷 (Tyrrell-Ford)+2 Laps
10.A.Jones🇦🇺 (Hill-Ford)+2 Laps
11.J.Watson🇬🇧 (Surtees-Ford)+2 Laps
12.M.Andretti🇺🇸 (Parnelli-Ford)+2 Laps
13.C.Regazzoni🇨🇭 (Ferrari)+2 Laps
14.J.Pierre Jarier🇫🇷 (Shadow-Ford)+3 Laps
15.T.Brise🇬🇧 (Hill-Ford)+3 Laps
16.B.Henton🇬🇧 (Lotus-Ford)+3 Laps
17.J.Nicholson🇳🇿 (Lyncar-Ford)+5 Laps
18.D.Morgan🇬🇧 (Surtees-Ford)+6 Laps
19.W.Fittipaldi🇧🇷 (Fittipaldi-Ford)+6 Laps
DNF.H.Joachim Stuck🇩🇪 (March-Ford)
DNF.J.Crawford🇬🇧 (Lotus-Ford)
DNF.T.Pryce🇬🇧 (Shadow-Ford)
DNF.L.Lombardi🇮🇹 (March-Ford)
DNF.R.Peterson🇸🇪 (Lotus-Ford)
DNF.J.Laffite🇫🇷 (Williams-Ford)
DNF.C.Reutemann🇦🇷 (Brabham-Ford)
DNQ.R.Wunderink🇳🇱 (Ensign-Ford)
DNQ.H.Fushida🇯🇵 (Maki-Ford)
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OTD
19.07.75
Formula 1 1975 John Player British Grand Prix Race Results🇬🇧
...
Was it Fittipaldi's last win?
I forgor
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Was it Fittipaldi's last win?
yes
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day 16 of f1 first wins
pat flaherty - 1956 indy 500
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Does anyone have that pic of senna v Prost in 88 89 and their head to head scores?
Anybody know this F1 car?
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Does anyone have that pic of senna v Prost in 88 89 and their head to head score...
Is this if all races points were counted?
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Surtees TS19
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Could someone remind on how the 83 Brabham was illegal?
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fuel had above limit octane levels
and some stuff in it to reduce knock iirc, but i don't think that was illegal
it was basically super high tech fuel
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Y no protest?
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there were protests from Renault but they led to nothing
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Surtees TS19
Thanks
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Is this if all races points were counted?
This is for total points from 88 and 89 combined
I believe
Looks like the points if they counted all races
Yeah
Yes that’s what I mean
Lol
Nice
👀
Senna had more accidents then Prost
4X
meager pewter
grand atlas
wow
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Prost got very cautious in the rain in his latter career
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Didn't he have a big crash in the rain?
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Prost got very cautious in the rain in his latter career
He withdrew from the 1989 Australian GP while Senna crashed into Martin Brundle
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Didn't he have a big crash in the rain?
Pironi crahed into him in the rain, ending his f1 career
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So the BRM H16 used in the 66 Lotus is the biggest F1 engine ever made?
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So the BRM H16 used in the 66 Lotus is the biggest F1 engine ever made?
there were 4.5L engines in 1950-1951
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https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/925272887206764574/999030554601209936/I...
Is that Binotto in the top left?
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The BRM H16 was only 3L
frozen prism
The BRM H16 was only 3L
and it was one unreliable hell of a gas guzzling time bomb
meager pewter
As if that was up for debate
frozen prism
their mistake was going for an engine that was bigger than a V12
but sometimes I forget that Jackie and Graham were teammates in Jackies early years before going to Matra
meager pewter
It was less that and more like Oh THEY DIDN'T TELL US THE RULES CHANGED WHAT DO WE DO
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It was less that and more like *Oh THEY DIDN'T TELL US THE RULES CHANGED WHAT DO...
hey, wait wait. we have a v8 of 1.5L
new regs say max 3L
what if we put 2 of our current engines next to each other?? it would work right??
Porsche in 1991: this H-16 idea was definitely right, let’s do it again with our old turbo blocks
narrator: it didn’t work
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Porsche in 1967: This H16 idea was definitely right, let's do it with our Flat-6
Narrator:
They killed 2 racing categories
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Yeah
hybrid mango
OTD
20.07.74
Formula 1 1974 John Player British Grand Prix Race Results🇬🇧
1.J.Scheckter🇿🇦 (Tyrrell-Ford) 1h43m02.200s
2.E.Fittipaldi🇧🇷 (McLaren-Ford)+15.300s
3.J.Ickx🇧🇪 (Lotus-Ford)+1.01.500
4.C.Regazzoni🇨🇭 (Ferrari)+1.07.200
5.N.Lauda🇦🇹 (Ferrari)+1 Lap
6.C.Reutemann🇦🇷 (Brabham-Ford)+1 Lap
7.D.Hulme🇳🇿 (McLaren-Ford)+1 Lap
8.T.Pryce🇬🇧 (Shadow-Ford)+1 Lap
9.C.Pace🇧🇷 (Brabham-Ford)+1 Lap
10.R.Peterson🇸🇪 (Lotus-Ford)+2 Laps
11.J.Watson🇬🇧 (Brabham-Ford)+2 Laps
12.J.Pierre Beltoise🇫🇷 (BRM)+3 Laps
13.G.Hill🇬🇧 (Lola-Ford)+6 Laps
14.J.Mass🇩🇪 (Surtees-Ford)+7 Laps
DNF.H.Pascarolo🇫🇷 (BRM)
DNF.F.Migault🇫🇷 (BRM)
DNF.M.Hailwood🇬🇧 (McLaren-Ford)
DNF.J.Pierre Jarier🇫🇷 (Shadow-Ford)
DNF.H.Joachim Stuck🇩🇪 (March-Ford)
DNF.P.Depailler🇫🇷 (Tyrrell-Ford)
DNF.A.Merzario🇮🇹 (Iso-Marlboro-Ford)
DNF.V.Brambilla🇮🇹 (March-Ford)
DNF.T.Schenken🇦🇺 (Trojan-Ford)
DNF.J.Hunt🇬🇧 (Hesketh-Ford)
DNF.P.Gethin🇬🇧 (Lola-Ford)
DNQ.D.Purley🇬🇧 (Token-Ford)
DNQ.D.Bell🇬🇧 (Surtees-Ford)
DNQ.T.Belsø🇩🇰 (Iso-Marlboro-Ford)
DNQ.L.Lombardi🇮🇹 (Brabham-Ford)
DNQ.V.Schuppan🇦🇺 (Ensign-Ford)
DNQ.J.Nicholson🇳🇿 (Lyncar-Ford)
DNQ.H.Ganley🇳🇿 (Maki-Ford)
DNQ.M.Wilds🇬🇧 (March-Ford)
DNQ.L.Kinnunen🇫🇮 (Surtees-Ford)
DNQ.G.Edwards🇬🇧 (Lola-Ford)
slow grail
day 17 of f1 first wins
peter collins - 1956 belgian gp
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OTD in 2002: Michael Schumacher wins the 2002 World Championship in dominant fashion with 6 races left to go
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hybrid mango
OTD
21.07.02
Formula 1 2002 Mobil 1 Grand Prix de France Race Results🇫🇷
1.M.Schumacher🇩🇪 (Ferrari) 1h32m09.837s
2.K.Raikkonen🇫🇮 (McLaren-Mercedes)+1.104s
3.D.Coulthard🇬🇧 (McLaren-Mercedes)+31.975s
4.J.Pablo Montoya🇨🇴 (Williams-BMW)+40.675s
5.R.Schumacher🇩🇪 (Williams-BMW)+41.772s
6.J.Button🇬🇧 (Renault)+1 Lap
7.N.Heidfeld🇩🇪 (Sauber-Petronas)+1 Lap
8.M.Webber🇦🇺 (Minardi-Asiatech)+1 Lap
9.P.De La Rosa🇪🇸 (Jaguar-Cosworth)+2 Laps
10.A.Yoong🇲🇾 (Minardi-Asiatech)+4 Laps
11.A.McNish🇬🇧 (Toyota)+7 Laps
DNF.E.Irvine🇬🇧 (Jaguar-Cosworth)
DNF.J.Trulli🇮🇹 (Renault)
DNF.F.Massa🇧🇷 (Sauber-Petronas)
DNF.M.Salo🇫🇮 (Toyota)
DNF.J.Villeneuve🇨🇦 (BAR-Honda)
DNF.O.Panis🇫🇷 (BAR-Honda)
DNF.T.Sato🇯🇵 (Jordan-Honda)
DNF.R.Barrichello🇧🇷 (Ferrari)
analog jasper
OTD
21.07.02
Formula 1 2002 Mobil 1 Grand Prix de France Race Results🇫🇷
1....
this hurts
slow grail
day 18 of f1 first wins
sam hanks - 1957 indy 500
eager mesa
https://motorsportanalysis.files.wordpress.com/2022/03/img_7909.jpg?w=1024
can i find these charts for 2010 and 2021 somewhere?
idle gale
That moment when your engine combusts just seconds after the lights are out
signal flint
Oh no, anyway
static jacinth
That moment when your engine combusts just seconds after the lights are out
Ferrari taking notes as we speak
burnt birch
ive been making a list of the first and last time every number was used. im having trouble finding a few cars
#35 Maserati driven by Eitel Cantoni at the 1952 British GP
#43 Tyrrell Ford driven by Mike Thackwell at the 1980 USA West GP
if anyone knows how to find them or has pictures of them it would be cool if you could let me know
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The 1984 Formula 2 champion
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can i find these charts for 2010 and 2021 somewhere?
F1analytics.com or something
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"It's a Ferrari!"
"It's a shitbox!"
frozen prism
it was this early version of the 1974 Ferrari that Lauda called a shitbox
round swift
looks like a bathtub on wheels
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it was this early version of the 1974 Ferrari that Lauda called a shitbox
yes, or a late 1973 rather. check their standings that season to understand why
round swift
yes, or a late 1973 rather. check their standings that season to understand why
It was the Ferrari 312T no?
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"It's a Ferrari!"
"It's a shitbox!"
312T
round swift
past drift
it was this early version of the 1974 Ferrari that Lauda called a shitbox
312B3-74
the -74 is important
the original 1973 B3 looks like this and was woeful. Ickx refused to do some races because of how bad it was, and left Ferrari after the season for Lotus
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maybe they didn't take some, or they weren't published
round swift
past drift
they tried everything
round swift
maybe they didn't take some, or they weren't published
lol if it was there then it has to be on the internet
past drift
oh yeah
past drift
it says it#s the 312T, that's the one you want?
