classic-motorsport

[past drift]

it did

this is why they banned venturi tunnels until this year

[stable spear]

He probably can afford 30 leg surgeries

[manic reef]

But its better to have intact legs and not have 30 surgeries

[past drift]

well ofc because healthcare is socialised in france, so money is not a problem

[past drift]

and a f1 title, which he was leading comfortably

[low valve]

Wait wdym

[placid elbow]

*next month have another race

I think

[low valve]

Wait so have you not been using ur own kart for races up till this point

[placid elbow]

First race was borrowing

Cuz mfs in dhl who was suppouse to send in time didnt send at the perfect time

[low valve]

Oh idk they let you borrow in any of the rotax series

[idle gale]

Back when Penske had a Formula 1 team. Which didn't do so well

Still I do love that simple Red, Blue and White paint scheme. As if it was the part of the American flag or something

[past drift]

they won a race at least

[oblique dock]

Which led to John Watson shaving his beard as part of a bet with Roger Penske himself

[placid hearth]

You'll like this story
Perry McCarthy once was looking for sponsorship.
So he called Atari, the gaming company, and said that he is James Hunt and he wants to talk to the managing director for the sponsorship of a young and upcoming driver named Perry McCarthy.
The receptionist was a bit starstruck on the phone and she was happy to pass it on and they got a meeting fixed.
So Perry went to the office and told the reception, that Hunt was sick and she waved him through to talk to the MD. The MD smiled and said, "nice try son, get out"

[analog jasper]

so close yet so far

[potent tendon]

weren't they caught 1 or 2 races later that they exceeded the Fuel Octane limit together with McLaren ?

[oblique dock]

Ivan Capelli

[analog jasper]

Leyton House

[south tree]

1990 March-Leyton House

[idle gale]

Note this was before Mercedes had full commitment in F1

[hybrid mango]

OTD

08.06.08

🇵🇱 🇵🇱 🇵🇱

[deft prawn]

https://youtu.be/NLhR44Jvxx4

[short glade]

not classic but goat

[hybrid mango]

08.06.08

Formula 1 XLV Grand Prix du Canada 2008 Race Results🇨🇦

1.R.Kubica🇵🇱 (BMW Sauber) 1h36m24.447s
2.N.Heidfeld🇩🇪 (BMW Sauber)+16.495s
3.D.Coulthard🇬🇧 (Red Bull-Renault)+23.352s
4.T.Glock🇩🇪 (Toyota)+42.627s
5.F.Massa🇧🇷 (Ferrari)+43.934s
6.J.Trulli🇮🇹 (Toyota)+47.775s
7.R.Barrichello🇧🇷 (Honda)+53.597s
8.S.Vettel🇩🇪 (Toro Rosso-Ferrari)+54.120s
9.H.Kovalainen🇫🇮 (McLaren-Mercedes)+54.749s
10.N.Rosberg🇩🇪 (Williams-Toyota)+54.749s
11.J.Button🇬🇧 (Honda)+1.07.540
12.M.Webber🇦🇺 (Red Bull-Renault)+1.11.299
13.S.Bourdais🇫🇷 (Toro Rosso-Ferrari)+1 Lap
DNF.G.Fisichella🇮🇹 (Force India-Ferrari)
DNF.K.Nakajima🇯🇵 (Williams-Toyota)
DNF.F.Alonso🇪🇸 (Renault)
DNF.N.Piquet Jr🇧🇷 (Renault)
DNF.K.Raikkonen🇫🇮 (Ferrari)
DNF.L.Hamilton🇬🇧 (McLaren-Mercedes)
DNF.A.Sutil🇩🇪 (Force India-Ferrari)

[chrome basin]

leyton house is pretty underrated ngl

[short glade]

leyton j hi ouse

[desert halo]

they were somewhat decent in their first season (7th in the constructors)

but they fell off hard in their second

[final fossil]

https://youtu.be/kA2ztpHGIkU

The quality of this video is so damn good

[short glade]

not classic but yes very good quality somehow

dat camera tho

if thats even a camera

[final fossil]

19 years ago 💀

[mystic abyss]

P

[final fossil]

Rip

[meager pewter]

Would you lookit that it's my favourite V10 in F1

[vestal mauve]

does anyone have good pictures or know where to find good pictures of the McLaren MP4/1?

[bleak cloud]

mate let me show you a website

its so good

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/photos/

filter it out

too many pictures g

[vestal mauve]

thanks mate, appreciate it

[hardy briar]

Oh, the misery of scrolling through classic F1 images, every single one is good! You just can’t possibly post them all!

[bleak cloud]

Bruh I linked the website

[hardy briar]

I know I’m just joking around with you

[bleak cloud]

💀

[south tree]

Movin’ the front wing cause why not

[bleak cloud]

80s aerodynamics

1974

[hardy briar]

Make a form of downforce so strong you get rid of other downforce, then get that form of downforce banned so you have to go back to the old downforce

Basically F1 in the 80s

[bleak cloud]

Zamn

[round swift]

Damn

[chrome basin]

the cars from the mid 70s were sexy asf

[south tree]

Mclaren actually copying the homework decently unlike the meme

(Yep, the M23 was proven to be highly based on the 72)

[signal flint]

Why did the 90s Bennetons have different noses to the other cars?

Was it just cheaper or was there a reason

[signal flint]

Corporate wants you to tell us the difference between these images

[short glade]

they tried some new concept

worked so they kept it

[signal flint]

Oh so there was actually a reason

Cool

[short glade]

tyrrell had a nose like them too

[signal flint]

Oh yea

[short glade]

not sure if it worked out for them

[signal flint]

I remember seeing a picture of the B194 next to the 94 Tyrell and they looked almost identical

[short glade]

i think by 91 tyrrell already had that nose

or 90

[signal flint]

Slightly raised

[idle gale]

Even on the podium you can just tell Ralf was absolutely fuming with the team orders

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/sYbbbZkyEwE

[hardy briar]

😔

[final fossil]

https://youtu.be/swQ0Q-CPa94

[placid hearth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFrldAZ16Ak

can someone tell me who it is talking about winklehock and de cesaris

the accent is so non emotionally, and sounds a bit european, however, i cant identify who that is. please mention me if you know

[placid hearth]

its Stefan Johannsson

[hardy briar]

random question, but does anyone know who the heaviest f1 driver was?

[oblique dock]

imma gonna take a hard guess and say alan jones????

[placid hearth]

maybe alex wurz?

he was tall

[past drift]

don’t you mean ligier?

[past drift]

and rightfully so. wonder why Michael went to talk to Eddie Jordan after that result

and got his brother to Williams

[signal flint]

I think it's neither

[oblique dock]

I think you are thinking of the Pacific team

[signal flint]

Yea

That's the one

The video I watched about it said it was a Tyrell

[short glade]

too bad pacific died in a year

[past drift]

still not classic, check the channel description 😉

[hybrid mango]

so where I could put this

[round swift]

maybe in f1 pictures or general

because this channel is Anything Formula One before 2002

[slow grail]

otd in 2001: welcome to formula 1's first ever sibling 1-2

• they'd already made history in italy 1998 when michael won and ralf finished 3rd
• for this race they lock out the front row with michael in front
• but when williams strategy hits jackpot ralf seizes the lead and doesn't look back
• ralf wins with michael 2nd making this the first ever sibling 1-2 in a formula one grand prix

[copper mango]

is it the only siblings 1-2 in history?

dont feel like theres been other siblings

[oblique dock]

Well, there were a few siblings in F1.

Teo and Corrado Fabi
Jody and Ian Scheckter
Gary and David Brabham

But none of them scored any 1-2’s

[copper mango]

oh i meant since then

[frozen prism]

Alan Jones or Jose Froilan Gonzales

[queen saddle]

Was this the only time F1 was referenced in Transformers?

[jolly pewter]

nope

[oblique dock]

Stunticons

[meager pewter]

https://tilallaremine.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/mirage-js-11.jpg

Good car to reference

[slow grail]

otd in 1995: birthday present from the racing gods

• boy this was a long time coming for one poor jean alesi. imagine being on your 5th season for ferrari with no wins to your name.
• it's not like he never came close to winning though: ever since 1994 when ferrari finally came to their senses and decided to build a competitive car alesi had a few shots at race wins
• but let's talk canada 1995: it's alesi's 31st birthday and he's starting 5th. not the perfect grid slot but there have been canadian gp winners that started from further back so not much to complain
• michael schumacher starts from pole and leads the race most of the way... until lap 57 when his electronics force him into the pits... and stay there for around 70 seconds due to a steering wheel change. guess who's in 2nd place at that time? that's right, birthday boi jean
• alesi seizes the lead and thanks to everything coming together unlike his last few attempts at winning races, he finally gets his first win
• in a cruel twist this ends up being his only win because of course it does. he leaves ferrari for benetton at the end of 1995 and while he enjoys quite a bit of more podiums for a couple of years he starts drowning in 1998 and quits at the end of 2001

[oblique dock]

Nelson Piquet, (Privateer) Mclaren M23, 1978

[queen saddle]

Oh yea, almost forgot about Drag Strip.

[signal flint]

Where is his head 😳

[hardy briar]

Normally i thought their heads went on the underside?

Imagine being a ground effect car and your head just constantly smashing into the ground

[round swift]

.gentlemen

[north sand]

Dschentelmenn 🎩 a schort vjü 👀 bäck tu se pahst 👴 ßertie 3️⃣0️⃣ ijährs ago, Niki Lauda tohld 💬 ös: "Tek a trändt 🎓 mannkie 🐒 pläs himm intu se kockpitt 🏎️ änd hie is ebel to dreiw se kar 🏅" ßertie 3️⃣0️⃣ ijährs leter Sebastian tohld 💬 ös: "I hädt tu start 🏁 mei kar 🏎️ leik ä kompüter 💻 Itts verrie komplikätet 😕" Änd Nico Rosberg ßedt, äh, hie presst 👇 düring se räs 🏁 Ei dont rimember watt räs 🤔 se rong bötten 🔘 on se wiel 🎡 Kvestchen for jü 👉 tu boß 👦👦 Iss Formula 1 🏎️ dreiwing tudä tu komplikätet 🤷 wiss twentie änd mor böttens 🔘 on se wiel 🎡 ahr jü tu mötsch önder effurt 😤 önder precher 😖 ? Watt ahr jor wisches 💭 for se fütscher 🕑 konzerning teknikel 🔬 programm, ähm, düring se räs 🏁 ? Less 👎 böttens 🔘 mor 👍 ? Or less 👎 änd mor 👍 kommjunikächen 💬 wiss jor endschiniers 👷?

[final fossil]

What if..

[round swift]

this looks like one of the 1981's 1980's british formula 3 cars

[past drift]

that;s the 126C2B isn't it

[round swift]

i dont think so

[past drift]

looks like some early C4

of 1984

[round swift]

1986 United States Grand Prix - Renè Arnoux - Ligier JS27 Renault

[marsh mango]

finally, something worth spending money on...

[placid hearth]

ok do u remember a race team a while back, i do not remember who it was, but there was a special rule for them that they had to make an extra pitstop or something because their car wasnt safe enough with the tyres to go the whole race or something like that??

mention me if somethin rings a bell pls

[round swift]

What era/year would this be?

[placid hearth]

i am sorry, i do not remember lol. i would have googled otherwise. i was hoping it rung a bell in someone's mind lol

[round swift]

Nope sorry

[oblique dock]

Roberto Moreno, 1988

[low valve]

That looks incredible

[novel briar]

that’s very beautiful

[round swift]

Was Gilles on a fast lap when he hit Jochen?

[oblique dock]

The 1996 Bridgestone test car (Ligier JS43)

[past drift]

yes he was

[round swift]

Could someone inform me better on Schumi Bridgestone relationship and exclusive tyre tests + tyres made only for his car and stuff.

[chrome basin]

one of the most underrated ferraris

[oblique dock]

Well, that particular Ferrari (a V12 F1/88 test mule) never raced

It was the precursor to the 640

[steel lance]

https://twitter.com/gudme123/status/1536410486123778048?s=21&t=2trrKqKS8vfUoVQ1JkR4Gg

Mathias Gudme (@gudme123)

< Wins 3 championships
< Leaves
< Comes back
< Wins the championship again
< Leaves again

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[signal flint]

Sexy car

[trim epoch]

dafu

wait what

dafuq

[signal flint]

Nothing

[trim epoch]

lol

[signal flint]

I didn't post anything

[trim epoch]

yea yea..

surely..

[signal flint]

You're just going insane

[trim epoch]

sure

sure

[round swift]

Why was Lewis a bit off in his first year in F3 in 2004.
I know they’re spec cars, but could him being in a Manor have made a difference. Idk how it was back then nor of Manor made good cars

[past drift]

Manor was good, but ART was a lot better

[round swift]

Lol

[chrome raven]

.gentlemen

[north sand]

Dschentelmenn 🎩 a schort vjü 👀 bäck tu se pahst 👴 ßertie 3️⃣0️⃣ ijährs ago, Niki Lauda tohld 💬 ös: "Tek a trändt 🎓 mannkie 🐒 pläs himm intu se kockpitt 🏎️ änd hie is ebel to dreiw se kar 🏅" ßertie 3️⃣0️⃣ ijährs leter Sebastian tohld 💬 ös: "I hädt tu start 🏁 mei kar 🏎️ leik ä kompüter 💻 Itts verrie komplikätet 😕" Änd Nico Rosberg ßedt, äh, hie presst 👇 düring se räs 🏁 Ei dont rimember watt räs 🤔 se rong bötten 🔘 on se wiel 🎡 Kvestchen for jü 👉 tu boß 👦👦 Iss Formula 1 🏎️ dreiwing tudä tu komplikätet 🤷 wiss twentie änd mor böttens 🔘 on se wiel 🎡 ahr jü tu mötsch önder effurt 😤 önder precher 😖 ? Watt ahr jor wisches 💭 for se fütscher 🕑 konzerning teknikel 🔬 programm, ähm, düring se räs 🏁 ? Less 👎 böttens 🔘 mor 👍 ? Or less 👎 änd mor 👍 kommjunikächen 💬 wiss jor endschiniers 👷?

[hallow ore]

Porsche F1 🤤

[hardy briar]

Crazy to think that of those teams there, only 3 are still around, and only 1, the all mighty (not recently though) Ferrari, has never not been there.

Still sad how a team like lotus and their history could go under

[short glade]

ferrari was basically the only top team using bridgestones as the rest were backmarkers so they focused on ferrari to test tyres and other things

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/FgO4DMjinfE

Murray was 26 years old at the time, and his voice never changed a single bit throughout the years

[fair ivy]

today marks the 29th year of james hunt's passing

[round swift]

Rip

[hardy briar]

Haha that’s totally true!

[chrome basin]

r.i.p 😔

[marsh mango]

these are 24h of lemans rules i think right

[marsh mango]

Prost: "homie you need some GoOoOD stuff?"
senna: "yea gimme some of that shiz"

[round swift]

They’re all f1 car pics though?

[round swift]

Rip

[round swift]

Sounds the same

[marsh mango]

really?

i am assuming cuz of the flag, the flag of france

[round swift]

You could be right

[oblique dock]

that would be for the French Grand Prix, i believe

[sinful forge]

Hahaha

[acoustic void]

It can apply to all motorsport not just Le Mans cos of a French flag most gps back the. Used the national flag to start the race

[marsh mango]

Yea that's makes sense

[fair ivy]

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheBishF1/status/1537747197357445120

Matt Bishop 🏳️‍🌈 (@TheBishF1)

#OnThisDay 44 years ago Niki Lauda won one of the most controversial #F1 GPs of all time, at Anderstorp (Sweden), in Bernie Ecclestone’s Brabham-Alfa BT46B... aka the Brabham fan car. The car raced only once, won, & was withdrawn.

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Twitter · Jun 17, 2022, 10:41 AM

[round swift]

Yup

[hardy briar]

find huge loophole
race car that has huge loophole
doesn’t elaborate
wins
gets banned

What an absolutely amazing car

[oblique dock]

Paletti died only 2 days within his 24th birthday

[round swift]

Did his F1 Car have carbon fibre in the front or was it all still aluminum

[oblique dock]

Apparently it did feature honeycomb aluminum for the monocoque

https://www.oldracingcars.com/osella/fa1c/

[round swift]

I wonder if a Carbon Fibre Monocoque would’ve helped him in that situation

[signal flint]

Did they still have the fuel tank around the drivers?

[sleek cargo]

you know what's even more sad? His mother was there in secret to make him a birthday surprise, instead she saw his son dying

[formal wadi]

T

[round swift]

I mean for the actual collision

he mustve broken his legs and got trapped

I wonder if carbon fibre would of saved his life and/or his legs

[analog jasper]

sex

the car won the only race it raced on

[placid hearth]

i have an interesting car for yall
The lotus 88 with double chassis, radical and brilliant, was banned even before it ran, in 1981. Chapman's innovative genius ended up annoying more than one...
The monohull consists of a simple sheet of nomex honeycomb paper covered with a Kevlar carbon fiber skin. Partitions machined from aluminum plates are bolted onto the structure.

Aware of the constraints imposed by the ground effect on the pilots (low suspension travel), Colin Chapman worked on a solution to give them a little driving comfort. The principle was to combine two chassis: one, combining pontoons, bodywork and "hard" suspension responsible for handling aerodynamic loads; the other combining engine, pilot and running gear, the chassis being connected by flexible springs.

The ban by the sporting authorities on sliding skirts at the beginning of the 1981 season only made this system more skilful, which allowed, incidentally, to circumvent the 6 cm of ground clearance imposed by the regulations. Panic-stricken, Lotus' competitors did everything to outlaw Chapman's new find (the last before his death). This Lotus was never allowed to start, as the federation prohibited this system.
http://www.autonewsinfo.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/F1-1988-LOTUS-88-©-Manfred-GIET-4.jpg

the car that was banned b4 the season started. text source:statsf1

[past drift]

Ecclestone politics played a big role here

[hardy briar]

Tragic.

[agile surge]

it was certainly not the fastest V10 Ferrari they’ve made, but it was one of the most beautiful in my opinion

[past drift]

it was actually the slowest!

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/xJlTtLkqRS4

[potent tendon]

Ken Tyrrell

[placid elbow]

https://youtu.be/wC9Tm4-tHb4

Rip roland

His first race in f1 too i think

Wait no

3

[past drift]

@placid elbow are you serious posting this?

read the rules, especially 2h..

[placid elbow]

Oh

Sorry

I forgot abt the rules💀

I did read

Just forgot

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/QfN8OX82JmI

Driven by Motoharu Kurosawa

[woven zinc]

if not for the 191, this would be the most beautiful non-B&H Jordan in my opinion

[past drift]

94?

[woven zinc]

ye

[novel briar]

Oh Rubens

[round swift]

Michelin's nightmare turns 17 today

[meager pewter]

https://preview.redd.it/a5rhovwcbye01.png?auto=webp&s=a81f29398ea3bffd8e777b52241617d8955a622d

[woven zinc]

yessssss

[hardy briar]

Christ

Scary crash

[signal flint]

Thats not Schumacher is it

[oblique dock]

De Cesaris

[round swift]

Not Micheal

[past drift]

classic

de Cesaris doing his thing

[signal flint]

The ford's always looked cool

[round swift]

It's even better in person

[signal flint]

You saw it in person?

[round swift]

Yeah I did. Sir Jackie Stewart was hosting an event up in Scotland to raise money for the Race Against Dementia charity, even he was getting in on the fun by racing his Matra on the sprint they had set up, honestly it was great

[signal flint]

Oh wow

Well, you lucky person

Bet it sounded better tho

[round swift]

Well as a Scottish person myself I couldn't resist the temptation to go. Only some cars were running, this Stewart GP SF03 wasn't running unfortunately, but in fairness the cars that were left a major impression. One that everyone seemed to love was the Red Bull RB8 from 2012

[signal flint]

I mean who wouldn't tho

[round swift]

That's true

[hardy briar]

It’s not crashing, its De Cesarising!

[analog jasper]

de crasheris

[bright latch]

thats lit 🔥

[placid elbow]

Ayy unmuted now

https://tenor.com/view/ayrton-senna-brazil-race-formula1-gif-19352632

[chrome basin]

professional shitpost

[signal flint]

Sad Senna

[chrome basin]

:sadnna:

[round swift]

Haha

[past drift]

hmmm, MP4/7A

[low valve]

Didnt that car make ayrton want to leave

[past drift]

hmm probably, the lack of active suspension was very important

[meager pewter]

Well the MP4/7 was worse than the 6 relatively, more the MP4/8 with stuff like the underpowered Fords followed by Ron denying Lambos

[sleek cargo]

Brambilla cutting the grass during qualifying on the 1975 Austrian GP

[round swift]

Yes basically

[sleek cargo]

1981 Spanish GP poster?

[ashen tulip]

should i get this poster

its cool

[grand atlas]

yes

[hardy briar]

Ah yes

F1

[hardy briar]

🕺

[queen saddle]

He even gave a friendly hand signal for Senna in the 1986 Hungary GP.

[hardy briar]

Just curious, was there ever a Soviet owned F1team?

[slim eagle]

Nah

[queen saddle]

Nope, there weren't any.

[hardy briar]

I didn’t think so, was just curious

[neon leaf]

Nope

[round swift]

Alain deserved to win the 1988 championship. Change my mind.

[past drift]

yes, but he did not

[signal flint]

Just like Murray Walker I think he got mixed up with the driver he's on about

[past drift]

classic

[round swift]

Alain had one less race win then Ayrton but also had 2-3 more podium finishes.

[past drift]

i know the results 😉

and why he lost

[round swift]

He didn’t deserve to lose

Stupid FIA and there rules

[past drift]

they were just antequated, they removed them in 91

[round swift]

Yup cuz it was useless pretty much

And didn’t make perfect sense

Cool shot

[oblique dock]

He would have won it if not for the best 12 races rule

Prost was the king of consistency

[round swift]

Yeah

[signal flint]

Fame by David Bowie fits the best for old f1

Change my mind

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/tSN04eFX2to

[hardy briar]

wouldn't prost have been like a 5 or 6 time wdc if F1 always used the current points system?

[hardy briar]

bro wtf

as I saw that

a George Harrison song comes on on spotify

[round swift]

Something like that yes

[distant nest]

does differential affect traction

[meager pewter]

Yes

Your diff controls how different the speed between each driven wheel is

If they're locked together, they'll spin at the same speed, at open, they'll be completely independant

[distant nest]

ah

so lower diff=more traction?

[meager pewter]

You want a balance where you don't have one tyre with no grip spinning freely

And still allowing the car not to just be shoddy handling wise

[distant nest]

ah thx

just to see different things, what diff do u use

[meager pewter]

Wdym?

[distant nest]

what differential do you use?

like what

number

[meager pewter]

I don't know what that means

If you mean like game setups then I try and run as low as possible diff accel and decel with some higher Preloads

[distant nest]

percentage* i guess

[meager pewter]

Oh crikey that's high

I typically go for like 20% oof but idk what the physics are

Also why're we talking about this in #classic-motorsport?

[low valve]

Wrong channel @distant nest

[distant nest]

yep I thought it was game until i pressed on it again to see other msgs💀 forgive me

my bad

[distant nest]

just a sc from google

[distant nest]

yep mb thought i pressed game

[hybrid mango]

https://youtu.be/OGxVe3-Z5wo

I just watched this Goated Commercial

[acoustic sparrow]

He’s lost it he’s out of control

[signal flint]

One wrong move

He'll become the new ground effect

[placid hearth]

i can try

the rules were known from the outset of the season

the goal wasnt to get most points like we get today

but it was to win the most races (so that over the course of calculations it benefitted one or another). i cannot blame senna for doing that

plus ive seen that season from start to end. i think senna just blew the socks off alain prost.

i like prost more than i like senna, and i think prost at his peak was a more well rounded driver than senna, but prost's days of being blistering fast were over

i remember prost having a few breakdowns, more than senna iirc (1 more retirement than senna due to mechanical failure). i dunno. im not looking at stats rn. it felt like that at least. But thats how it goes, and well senna was quick out of the box, including his disqualification from the first round where his car broke down on the formation lap, yet he finished p2

[round swift]

Prost had better consistency. Sure Senna had one more win, but Prost had two more podium finishes and always qualified further down the field then Senna. Senna was always going to qualify first. Prost knew that. Prost has to be one of the smartest Formula one drivers ever. The guy didn’t care about his qualifying times, I wouldn’t either, it gets you no points, but more rather to this race setup. Alain did have something like 13 pole positions in the infamous FW15C.

[oblique dock]

“Senna would have won 1989 if it weren’t for Suzuka”

Except that he would’ve won 1989 if he had less car troubles and if he avoided that collision with Mansell in Portugal.

[round swift]

Meh maybe

[placid hearth]

i agree that makes him one of the most well rounded f1 drivers of all time

but i dont think that makes him a better driver than senna that year

the way senna lost at the start at japan 1988, came back, got past him and won (||special honda engine??||)

[round swift]

Just a great drive

[placid hearth]

plus back then qualifying was a lot more important than now. you just got stuck behind someone for ages and couldnt get past

[round swift]

Points for each season^^^^

[placid hearth]

to think of it, 1982, renaults had 7 1-2 front low lockouts

dont have the number but prost certainlu outqualified arnoux

[round swift]

🤷‍♂️

[placid hearth]

yeah, i mean, i wont argue there. numbers dont lie.

but senna's speed doesnt either

[round swift]

Senna is still impressive. In my books, he IS the best qualifier in F1 history.

[placid hearth]

the way mclaren started to get based around senna, doesnt either

i think that speed was enough to just rattle prost, put that doubt in him that being senna's teammate wasnt ideal

but prost rose to the challenge well, at least in 1988, i think he beat senna by 30 or 40 odd seconds at mexico

no it was 7 sorry. have confused it with something else

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/909149162153590804.webp?size=48&quality=lossless

[placid hearth]

i am always tempted to give that to mika. i dunno, why i just think, nah senna is a safer bet

[round swift]

Mika wasn’t as good as Senna

[round swift]

Why is it in %

[round swift]

100% was the average of the season or year or something idfk

Senna or Schumacher, cmon classic nerds. Give me a strong case for either side.

[oblique dock]

Neither

Prost > Both

Senna and Schumacher were regarded as heroes and legends, but also very dirty drivers

But of course, Senna was known for his philanthropic work and immense talent that showed the world who he was.

The same would go for Schumacher. He was known for his leadership at Ferrari and just like Senna, his immense talent. But both were also known for races such as Japan 1990, Jerez 1997, Belgium 1987, and so on

As for Alain Prost, he was the conplete opposite and would be considered as people would say, “a saint.” He never drove his opponents against the wall, he never deliberately crashed off any drivers to win a WDC, and of course, he was a master of car setups and consistency when it comes to scoring points. Prost also outscored all of his teammates who were mostly future and ex world champions, too.

(I like all of them anyway.)

[past drift]

they bith had the same amount of poles if that’s what you mean. arnoux was actually an excellent qualifier

[placid hearth]

Yeh course he wasn't. But I think he's always a very good out of the box choice. But I won't consider DC over one lap very comparable, just like Prost to senna. But yeah senna prolly wins everytime.

I still find Mikas run of pole between 1998-2000 very impressive

[placid hearth]

They were really a good pair yeah

[craggy ember]

sorry for the big line in the middle but can anyone explain the coloured tyres?

[meager pewter]

They sprayed them like Benetton colours because Benetton things innit

[round swift]

Fangio was born today!

[analog jasper]

https://twitter.com/MSI_Images/status/1540331025905106951?t=B8f93JieJAZMniggIvjmmw&s=19

Motorsport Images (@MSI_Images)

We went through our video archive and found some footage of drivers being interviewed during their f3 seasons. Wonder if any them ever made it to F1? #F1 #interview

▶ Play video

Twitter · Jun 24, 2022, 1:48 PM

does this belong here?

but its really cool

[slow grail]

why does man look like jacques villeneuve lmao

[signal flint]

No he wasnt, he was born in 1911

Not 2022

[analog jasper]

https://twitter.com/MSI_Images/status/1540284864007507968?t=X3vxmloytl8g3LBqZRmEKw&s=19

Motorsport Images (@MSI_Images)

The legendary Juan Manuel Fangio was born #OnThisDay in 1911. 🌟 In 1976, Fangio took part in the #LongBeachGP's historic race, finishing a spirited third behind Jack Brabham and winner Dan Gurney - and setting the fastest lap in his Mercedes W196! 🏆

https://t.co/sOJi6HTz2c

Twitter · Jun 24, 2022, 10:45 AM

[round swift]

He meant the month and the day not the year

[signal flint]

Yea, ik I'm not stupid

[round swift]

👍🏻

[final fossil]

[round swift]

Big brain moment 🧠

[signal flint]

I mean, am I wrong?

[round swift]

You’re never wrong

[glad fractal]

I miss senna

[signal flint]

I think we all do

Apart from the Prost fans

[glass yoke]

anyone know what driver number senna drove on the mp4/4?

[oblique dock]

12

[glass yoke]

oh ok thanks

[past drift]

you think Prost fans hate senna?

[signal flint]

Some, not all

[round swift]

Definitely not all lol

[placid hearth]

i mean, if emotions have not calmed down since 1993

then its not an issue with f1 lol.

[placid hearth]

https://twitter.com/RaceDayReplay/status/1541039993661054976?t=WstUoH8sufyZ5sY6ePf6ug&s=09

Race Day Replay (@RaceDayReplay)

There's a 1997 FW19 in the @WilliamsRacing tent. I couldn't get it confirmed but there's some damage to the sidepod where another car may have hit it. Then in another tent there's a 1997 MSC @ScuderiaFerrari. I've got a great idea for a picture... #fosgoodwood

Twitter · Jun 26, 2022, 12:45 PM

https://twitter.com/karunchandhok/status/1541073497023299584?t=fKKaTUEnKftWSZZ9jfszlQ&s=09

Karun Chandhok (@karunchandhok)

@RaceDayReplay That’s the Jerez chassis - I can confirm!

Twitter · Jun 26, 2022, 2:58 PM

[round swift]

That’s pretty cool

Hopefully they leave it like that lol

[meager pewter]

Oh hey I saw that

[round swift]

Nice!

[past drift]

there's something about the 96 car

idk what it is, but it pleases the eye

[meager pewter]

WAIT

97

[past drift]

i still prefer the 96

[round swift]

95 96 and 97

Look pretty much all the same tbh

But 96 looks best I guess idk 🤷

[meager pewter]

I like 95 and 97

[round swift]

Why do so many people hate Piquet? I know about his son and Crashgate and the recent racism, but I heard he was kicked out of F1 in the 90s and didn’t get along with the drivers.
Would someone explain.

[oblique dock]

Piquet insulted Mansell’s wife and Mansell himself, as well as calling Ayrton Senna “The Sao Paulo Taxi Driver” (and also gay)

Also, he never got kicked out. He decided to retire from F1 after the 1991 season to focus on business opportunities.

But, Piquet was a very good champion. He managed to beat Prost to the 1983 title with a car that was 3rd in the WDC, not to mention winning the 1987 WDC after being affected physically due to an accident at the Tamburello curve at Imola

We also cannot forget his pass on Senna during the 1986 Hungarian GP

[past drift]

illegal car, has to be said

[oblique dock]

Which car? The Brabham?

[past drift]

yes

they ran illegal fuel by the end lf the season

[oblique dock]

Around what race did that happen?

[past drift]

italy

[meager pewter]

Also man went to Menards in the 90's

[manic reef]

Minardi?

[oblique dock]

He attempted the Indy 500 with Team Menards in 1992, but suffered injuries in an accident prior to the race

https://youtu.be/-2GrYBJR3lY

[hardy briar]

Gah, indycar oval crashes will always be so so terrifying to me

[round swift]

The FW19 was the last good Williams car

Tbh

But FW18> FW19 or FW17

[meager pewter]

But the FW26 tho

[idle gale]

Huh. I guess Damon still had Adelaide 1994 in his mind

[round swift]

oof

[frozen prism]

I have returned

[round swift]

aye

[low valve]

Bro i was there too, on the sunday

Big nige in his championship winning williams

[meager pewter]

I was probably to your left

Tall geez with cans and a Marlboro hoodie oof

[round swift]

oop

[low valve]

You were there when they started it up???

[round swift]

Imagine being there

[low valve]

Remember when the guy revved it up at the very end, it was actually deafening

[meager pewter]

When they were warming the Toleman and the Benetton on the other side

[low valve]

Ohhhh yeah

The toleman that was shooting flames though

Epic

[frozen prism]

1993 Benetton?

[low valve]

1992

[meager pewter]

1992

[frozen prism]

ah

[round swift]

:O

[frozen prism]

yeah nvm i can see

they had higher numbers in 1993 iirc

[round swift]

ye

and a different livery iirc

[meager pewter]

They had similar livery

But less width, active suspension which is hard to deal with

[round swift]

ah ye

[frozen prism]

yeah they copypasted liveries years before Red Bull did

but their 1995 livery

is just hot

[round swift]

yes

agreed

[round swift]

🥵

I wish I was there

Can you name them four?

[past drift]

Renault RE01
WIlliams FW14
Renault RE30
Williams FW07

[round swift]

FW14B 😉

But yes 👏 good job

[past drift]

yeah well idk the difference in look between 14 and 14B

if there's any

[round swift]

Active suspension?

Idk either

[past drift]

hmm ye active suspension should make the suspension system take more space in the car.. ig

ye right

[round swift]

B had traction control and active suspension

[past drift]

14

[round swift]

Which 14 didn’t have

[past drift]

14B

notice the bulges on the suspension

[round swift]

Yup look at the colour too on the front of the numbers

White vs red

[past drift]

well that's just Nigel vs Ricardo

Nigel had the red 5 in 91 as well

while Patrese had the white 6 both years

[round swift]

Oh

[oblique dock]

RS01
FW14B
RE40
FW07

[frozen prism]

(1st Renault?)
Williams FW14
Renault RE31
Williams FW07 (or FW06)

[frozen prism]

thats not really a distinction

only mansells really had the red number

[round swift]

Yeah different colours for two separate years

[meager pewter]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/01/7a/2a/017a2a6a21a604a198edc35c7d22dfcf.jpg

This is 1991

https://a.espncdn.com/photo/2019/0707/r567116_1296x729_16-9.jpg

This is 1992

[edgy chasm]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JAgSzhkt1Vc

[round swift]

Yeah very bright red and then dark red

I just need to look very hard

🤥🤣

[round swift]

👏 RE40

[oblique dock]

What a beautiful Renault

[round swift]

It the first Renault chassis to be built entirely of carbon fibre. Definitely not a soar to the eye!!

[novel briar]

Somebody show me the 1979 Ferrari 🔥

[signal flint]

No

[novel briar]

But nobody asked if you are okay though

Oh

Deleted

Why?

[signal flint]

Yeap

Like my dad, never existed

[novel briar]

This took a very sudden turn huh

[signal flint]

It's a statement of fact

[novel briar]

Oh

[signal flint]

And will you do with a 78 ferrari?

[novel briar]

Do what though?

[novel briar]

I’m sorry to hear that bro

[signal flint]

Will you be fine with a 78 ferrari instead

[novel briar]

Yeah they still almost the same

[signal flint]

Bruh it's literally a 312t

Why

Was it to save money, or did Google give me the wrong thing

[novel briar]

This is 1976

Found the 1978 one myself 😂

[signal flint]

I was gonna say

I just typed 1978 ferrari f1 and put in whatever popped up frankly

[round swift]

1979 Ferrari!

[analog jasper]

thats a weird looking ferrari

[placid hearth]

that looks Cesare Florio embracing nigel

after a ferrari 1-2 at mexico

where on the last lap, mansell and berger diced for p2, and well mansell went around the outside which was quite a move

[novel briar]

Nah thats 2019

I need 1846

[frozen prism]

no its just that the 1975-1980 Ferraris were modifications of the 312T chassis

and they just show the 1976 Ferrari as its photo

[placid hearth]

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/20/6f/e4/206fe49eec7a7295dcb071e86f1e9536.jpg

CG901 v 641
Adrian newey designed a special undertray in the CG901 that allowed the car to be very quick at france. but prior to that he had been fired.

the car got a p2 at france in the hands of Capelli. Gugelmin was running p3, and well would have finished there if the Judd didnt go pop

[past drift]

for almost 20 laps, the 2 March were 1-2

[placid hearth]

the mclarens.. were there

[neon vigil]

BUT HERE COMES SEBASTIAN VETTEL

[meager pewter]

THERE HE IS

[neon vigil]

hes a walking W

[meager pewter]

The hair is a W

[round swift]

:O

[oblique dock]

Portugal '89

[placid hearth]

mansell had been black flagged iirc, for reversing in the pitlane

after he overshot the pitbox

[past drift]

ye

[acoustic sparrow]

Why does senna’s tyre that’s broke off look like an ultrasoft

[past drift]

colour wise?

[manic reef]

Fondmetal

[meager pewter]

Zakspeed

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B7gVvTgCAAE-n46.jpg

FondMetal

[frozen prism]

Still one of my defenses for Senna's 89 title

Senna would have finished 3rd in that race

while Prost still had a marginal lead by around 20 points

but if Senna still won the next race

the standings would have been
Prost 76 (81)
Senna 64

[round swift]

Was the B195 illegal

[past drift]

no

[frozen prism]

no

it was the B194 that was rumored to be somewhat illegal

and I believe that

[signal flint]

Didn't they take out the ball bearings for a fuel pump for extra fuel, but less time or something like that

Or was it the launch control thing

[frozen prism]

yeah they did

to save time for refuelling

[signal flint]

Yea

[frozen prism]

while that wasnt illegal

[signal flint]

Was that 95 or 4

[frozen prism]

it was highly dangerous

and one of the reasons that incident happened with Jos Verstappen

in the pits

[signal flint]

Yea

Saw that before

Maybe that's why he's so angry now

[meager pewter]

They'd taken out the fuel filters which... Was illegal tho

[past drift]

94

[signal flint]

Ah

[round swift]

94 had launch control in its system

it was found in the system but they couldn’t prove if it was ever used

[signal flint]

Yea, i knew that bit

[round swift]

Maybe it wasn’t launch control but traction control.

Lol

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegations_of_cheating_during_the_1994_Formula_One_World_Championship

https://youtu.be/HYca6E6c3IM

[meager pewter]

It's weird... I think I remember hearing a 1995 car with an obvious TC fuel cut in a video I saw the other day

[idle gale]

Huh. Never actually noticed that Jos Verstappen held his steering wheel like how Jean Alesi held his wheel

[manic reef]

Yeah i just saw the name and said it cuz idk why i remember Fondmetal

[past drift]

they supplied lots of teams with rims

[frozen prism]

actually thats a funny habit that most Minardi drivers have

a lot of Minardi drivers picked up the habit of holding the wheel like that

[hardy briar]

Must be that Minardi Fever

[past drift]

neither jos nor jean drove for minardi tho

oh jos in 2003 mb

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/hacqN8bMB7I

[hardy briar]

What’s the largest gap between pole and 2nd place ever?

In qualifying

Just seconds not %

[round swift]

Probably 1950s or 1960s

[hardy briar]

Bruh

[round swift]

But the 1992 British GP was 2 seconds

[hardy briar]

I meant specific race

[round swift]

Nurburgring

1968

[hardy briar]

Ah ok

[round swift]

Was like 11 seconds

[hardy briar]

Makes sense

And the closest is obviously 0.000

[round swift]

Yes

1997 Europe GP

[round swift]

First win for Hakkinen

[frozen prism]

between 3 drivers

[hardy briar]

Yep

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/TlZPdctnoMk

[slow grail]

day 1 of f1 first wins
giuseppe farina - 1950 british gp

[formal wadi]

[round swift]

Lol good luck man

[past drift]

there;s only 112 race winners, ez

[low valve]

YESSSS YOUVE BROUGHT THIS BACK

IM SO HAPPY

[woven zinc]

yay you've brought this back

[frozen prism]

hm maybe I should start something like this

well good luck on covering the 100+ race winners

[meager pewter]

https://youtu.be/-jRT1plql4w

[craggy ember]

Why does everyone say the FW14b was the most advanced car ever when the FW15c is its evolution?

[meager pewter]

They do?

I thought it's just bias because the FW14B is more significant for Mansell and the British public

[slow grail]

day 2 of f1 first wins
juan manuel fangio - 1950 monaco gp

[analog jasper]

goat

[round swift]

👀

[frozen prism]

Graham Hill climbing out of his crashed Lotus after suffering a collapsed rear wing | 1969 Spanish Grand Prix

[idle gale]

"It's terrible! Drives like a pig!"

[slow grail]

day 3 of f1 first wins
johnnie parsons - 1950 indy 500

[oblique dock]

(The Indy 500 was part of the F1 world championship during the 1950's)

[past drift]

yet F1 drivers took part in it like... 3 occasions?
Ascari in 52
Farina in 56
Fangio in 58

if there's more i've not seen em

[oblique dock]

Brabham in 1961

wait, the last time the Indy 500 was part of the F1 calendar was in 1960

never mind

[past drift]

yeah that's what i meant

F1 drivers have won the race.. afte rit was no longer in the F1 calendar

Clark in 65, Hill in 66..

[oblique dock]

Ascari, 1952

iirc Ferrari's attempt at the Indy 500 in 1952 was disastrous

[past drift]

not really

at least Ascari qualified (19th)

but he retired after 40 laps with a broken wheel bearing

both Farina and Fangio failed to qualify

[oblique dock]

ah ok

[round swift]

oop

[round swift]

Alain Prost ?? 😂😂

[round swift]

They both are

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/patrick-head-explains-why-the-1992-williams-fw14b-was-great-4989593/4989593/

[past drift]

did the 14B have fly by wire? apparently the 15C did

[round swift]

I don’t think so

‘the throttle was operated by a mechanical cable run from the pedal in the pedal!’

It did have power steering though

[idle gale]

How to finish a rain soaked race while in the lead? By crashing across the line

[neon vigil]

Thor

https://tenor.com/view/james-hunt-wonderful-rats-lauda-niki-lauda-gif-13209310

[round swift]

Niki Lauda

Rush!

I plan on watching Grand Prix tonight

[hybrid mango]

https://twitter.com/SkySportsF1/status/1544682581014130689?t=1BVh0g67FzJSDCyaiwbItw&s=19

Sky Sports F1 (@SkySportsF1)

What's the most ICONIC piece of F1 commentary? 💭💭💭

Likes

2673

Twitter · Jul 6, 2022, 2:00 PM

[lilac grail]

Anything murray walker.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyxHt7ijo6Q&ab_channel=FORMULA1

[analog jasper]

"Oh My Goodness, This is Fantastic!"

[slow grail]

day 4 of f1 first wins
lee wallard - 1951 indy 500

[manic reef]

Woah

[hardy briar]

…And it’s happened immediately! This is amazing!

[meager pewter]

https://youtu.be/MDqUs5Cm2fA

Centre Zhaust

[slow grail]

day 5 of f1 first wins
luigi fagioli - 1951 french gp

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/-e876Uwn3CY

This, ladies and gentlemen, is why wheel tethers are a thing

[analog jasper]

the goat

[round swift]

Wasn’t it introduced after the 1998 Belgium Grand Prix

[marsh mango]

He won in Spa, HE WINS IN MONZA....Charles leclerc wins the Italian Grand prix

[meager pewter]

I thought the Wheel Tether was after Australia 2001

With the Jacques villeneuve crash

[slow grail]

day 6 of f1 first wins
josé froilán gonzález - 1951 british gp

[round swift]

No it was since 1998

[meager pewter]

Wait the second one was 2001

[round swift]

I guess so

https://us.motorsport.com/f1/news/fia-wheel-tethers-come-under-the-spotlight/1863862/

‘Since 1998, F1 cars have had to fit wheel tethers connecting the wheels to the chassis. This rule was introduced to try to stop wheels coming free and bouncing around dangerously during an accident. Unfortunately, wheels still do come off the cars during crashes, tragically killing a marshall at the Italian GP in 2000. The FIA have introduced an extra tether to each wheel for the 2001 season to try to stop the wheels coming off and causing injury to other drivers, marshals or spectators. The tether must attach to the chassis at one end, with the other end connecting to the wheel hub.’

[tropic epoch]

Nothing to add I just love this pic of Damon

[hardy briar]

Nice

[primal valley]

1988 copy of Pole Position for the Atari I got at a flea market today.

it came with the game and a manual

[slow grail]

day 7 of f1 first wins
alberto ascari - 1951 german gp

[round swift]

Woah

[round swift]

Cool stuff but it doesn’t look like a f1 car from 88 lol. It seems like it’s still from the ground effect era…

[primal valley]

The game was made in 1982, I just have a copy that was made in 1988

Sorry for not clarifying that lol

I guess it was originally an arcade game then got transferred to the atari

[round swift]

Ah makes sense then 👍🏼

[round swift]

Which one is faster? ATS or Osella?

[hybrid mango]

OTD We had 3 British GP's which one you want to review

1️⃣ 1993

2️⃣ 1999

3️⃣ 2010 (if this then I will put in #f1-hq-photos-and-videos)

[frozen prism]

Vittorio Brambilla?

[frozen prism]

ATS

[frozen prism]

which Fittipaldi is this

[past drift]

looks to be the f8 of 1980

[frozen prism]

Emo got a miracle podium that year iirc

[round swift]

Osella

All I know is that Paletti raced with Osella and he passed ATS in few races

But vice versa I guess lol

[past drift]

ATS was faster

[round swift]

Osella had a better race result and less amount of DNF’s 👀

Is that why Osella stayed in F1 longer?

[past drift]

osella was friends with ferrari

[slow grail]

day 8 of f1 first wins
piero taruffi - 1952 swiss gp

[hybrid mango]

Looks like you voted for 1999 Britain so

Formula 1 RAC 1999 British Grand Prix Race Results🇬🇧

1.D.Coulthard🇬🇧 (McLaren-Mercedes) 1h32m30.144s
2.E.Irvine🇬🇧 (Ferrari)+1.829s
3.R.Schumacher🇩🇪 (Williams-Supertec)+27.411s
4.H.Harald Frentzen🇩🇪 (Jordan-Mugen-Honda)+27.789s
5.D.Hill🇬🇧 (Jordan-Mugen-Honda)+38.606s
6.P.Diniz🇧🇷 (Sauber-Petronas)+53.643s
7.G.Fisichella🇮🇹 (Benetton-Playlife)+54.614s
8.R.Barrichello🇧🇷 (Stewart-Ford)+1.08.590
9.J.Trulli🇮🇹 (Prost-Peugeot)+1.12.045
10.A.Wurz🇦🇹 (Benetton-Playlife)+1.12.123
11.A.Zanardi🇮🇹 (Williams-Supertec)+1.17.124
12.J.Herbert🇬🇧 (Stewart-Ford)+1.17.709
13.O.Panis🇫🇷 (Prost-Peugeot)+1.20.492
14.J.Alesi🇫🇷 (Sauber-Petronas)+1 Lap
15.M.Gené🇪🇸 (Minardi-Ford)+2 Laps
16.T.Takagi🇯🇵 (Arrows)+2 Laps
DNF.R.Zonta🇧🇷 (BAR-Supertec)
DNF.M.Hakkinen🇫🇮 (McLaren-Mercedes)
DNF.J.Villeneuve🇨🇦 (BAR-Supertec)
DNF.L.Badoer🇮🇹 (Minardi-Ford)
DNF.P.De La Rosa🇪🇸 (Arrows)
DNF.M.Schumacher🇩🇪 (Ferrari)

[round swift]

Never knew that! Cool to know

[past drift]

i meant the people, team founders
incidentally, both are called Enzo as well 😄

[round swift]

You know nothing beats the horse

Williams was successful btw

And McLaren also loves meme

Mercedes is also historical

[round swift]

RB is too modern and serious Haas is too modern and weak and Alfa Romeo is too weak and serious

[past drift]

Nice try but aston isn’t historical

[analog jasper]

i can't remember anything good about aston

except that they were shit in the 60s

[past drift]

they only took part in 59 and 60

one of these seasons was with a dude called Caroll Shelby, idk if you’ve heard of him

https://youtu.be/0apYsCKvN1w

[analog jasper]

heard of him

guy founded shelby right

[past drift]

yes

[analog jasper]

yeah

[past drift]

made the ac cobra

[analog jasper]

yeah, my dad loves that car

[past drift]

your dad has fine taste 👌

[hybrid mango]

OTD

12.07.1987

Formula 1 1987 She'll Oils British Grand Prix Race Results🇬🇧

1.N.Mansell🇬🇧 (Williams-Honda) 1h19m11.780s
2.N.Piquet🇧🇷 (Williams-Honda)+1.918s
3.A.Senna🇧🇷 (Lotus-Honda)+1 Lap
4.S.Nakajima🇯🇵 (Lotus-Honda)+2 Laps
5.D.Warwrick🇬🇧 (Arrows-Megatron)+2 Laps
6.T.Fabi🇮🇹 (Benetton-Ford)+2 Laps
7.T.Boutsen🇧🇪 (Benetton-Ford)+3 Laps
8.J.Palmer🇬🇧 (Tyrrell-Ford)+5 Laps
9.P.Fabre🇫🇷 (AGS-Ford)+6 Laps
DNF.P.Streiff🇫🇷 (Tyrrell-Ford)
DNF.M.Brundle🇬🇧 (Zakspeed)
DNF.A.Prost🇫🇷 (McLaren-TAG)
DNF.M.Alboreto🇮🇹 (Ferrari)
DNF.E.Cheever🇺🇸 (Arrows-Megatron)
DNF.A.Campos🇪🇸 (Minardi-Motori Moderni)
DNF.A.Caffi🇮🇹 (Osella-Alfa Romeo)
DNF.C.Danner🇩🇪 (Zakspeed)
DNF.R.Patrese🇮🇹 (Brabham-BMW)
DNF.S.Johansson🇸🇪 (McLaren-TAG)
DNF.A.Nannini🇮🇹 (Minardi-Motori Moderni)
DNF.A.De Cesaris🇮🇹 (Brabham-BMW)
DNF.G.Berger🇦🇹 (Ferrari)
DNF.P.Alliot🇫🇷 (Lola-Ford)
DNF.R.Arnoux🇫🇷 (Ligier-Megatron)
DNF.I.Capelli🇮🇹 (March-Ford)
EX.P.Ghinzani🇮🇹 (Ligier-Megatron)*

*Excluded from race due to refuelling his car on the track during Qualifying

[round swift]

oh wow

so many DNFs

[slow grail]

day 9 of f1 first wins
troy ruttman - 1952 indy 500

[round swift]

What car year?

[past drift]

Matra ms80 1969?

[round swift]

Yes

What race?

[sleek cargo]

1993 European GP at Donington Park

[slow grail]

day 10 of f1 first wins
bill vukovich - 1953 indy 500

[silver apex]

the fact they counted indy as f1 never made sense

[frozen prism]

Ascari would and should have the current wins record tied with Seb if they hadn't counted the Indy race

[round swift]

https://www.cityam.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/image039.jpg

https://www.cityam.com/why-juan-manuel-fangio-not-lewis-hamilton-or-michael-schumacher-is-the-greatest-formula-1-driver-ever/

Never heard of “cityam” in my life lol

https://preview.redd.it/lykw8k6h0kg01.jpg?auto=webp&s=f6b5644220fa9364edda2e6e1268bfae13f62cbe

😞 😢

[fringe crescent]

How does the risk/history of death determine if something is a sport or not?

[analog jasper]

damn hunt is on the list

[woeful rapids]

wasnt ascari the only f1 driver to actually compete at indy?

i mean while he raced for them

idk i think ascari deserves the 9 win in a row title

its more impressive back then too

[round swift]

Tbf, I’m more suprised that Mika made it on to the list
(where Kimi?)

[low valve]

How does that work

[frozen prism]

cause since ascari like most if not all the f1 european drivers didnt participate in the indy 500 because they rarely ever died they didnt count his win record

[oblique dock]

Moss is the only non champion on that list. Wow.

[round swift]

Man

Brazil just smacked the shit out of the old man

https://motorsports.nbcsports.com/2022/07/12/brazil-court-probes-nelson-piquet-racist-homophobic-slurs-lewis-hamilton-f1/

[round swift]

dam

That sucks

Need to watch what you say nowadays cause it’ll never go away, not like I would say or do any of this anyways

I agree

[round swift]

Kimi needs his drink

true XD

[slow grail]

day 11 of f1 first wins
mike hawthorn - 1953 french gp

[round swift]

What year did Ferrari ditch the flat 12

[frozen prism]

well moss is tied with prost for the most world championship runner-up seasons with 4

[frozen prism]

1981

iirc

after the failure of 1980 with the huge boxer 12 cylinder engine they started using turbo engines

i could be wrong

[analog jasper]

well, in 82 they won the wcc iirc

[oblique dock]

Followed by the 1983 WCC

[analog jasper]

could've done the double in 82

in 84 idk what happened, they dropped or smth

[oblique dock]

1985 was hampered by reliability issues

[past drift]

it was a flat 12, not a boxer 🙂

[round swift]

Did you know that in 1990, the Subaru 1235 flat-twelve engine was built for Subaru's unsuccessful attempt to compete in Formula One as an engine manufacturer.

[idle gale]

Guanyu Zhou wasn't the only one to have an airbox/rollover hoop failure during a crash

[analog jasper]

nother sauber

that was diniz right

[idle gale]

Yep, Pedro Diniz during the 1999 European GP I think

[past drift]

ye

indeed, it broke,

[orchid beacon]

hi eveyone any one remeber the 1981 belgium grand prix?

[past drift]

yes ofc

[orchid beacon]

it was a heck of a race

[last gate]

What's a good old fia season review to watch?

[past drift]

i like the 98 one

[round swift]

Which teams used the Subaru and when did Subaru leave?

Which was better, Subaru Peugeot or Lamborghini.

[oblique dock]

The race start was an absolute joke

Cars going at race pace while Dave Luckett remained on the ground after being hit by Siegfried Stohr

[past drift]

Peugeot had 14 podiums, Lambo had 1 podium, Subaru had 0 starts

only Coloni used that trash outdated engine

[oblique dock]

I thought Peugeot had less

[round swift]

It was tested but ultimately never used

Wait actually it was used lmao

[past drift]

it was used

it was just so slow they didn'#t even pre qualify

[round swift]

lmao

When was pre qualifying abolished

It was with the constructer Coloni

Wait

It couldn’t prequalify for 8 races in a row 👀

And only made 550hp god damnnn

I think my truck makes more

[past drift]

ontop of being a flat-12, so it was also super heavy

[round swift]

Which made it garbage

🗑

[oblique dock]

Still, could be worse. At least it wasn’t the Life W12

Producing 480 hp iirc

F3000 cars were faster than the Life L190 for crying out loud.

I bet Group C2 sportscars and Group A touring cars (especially the R32 GT-R) from the same era would be quicker too

[round swift]

What about the BRM P75 though?

I know it’s an old engine but goddamn cmon now

[oblique dock]

Well that won a race in the hands of Jim Clark and scored a podium with Jackie Stewart

It’s still a pretty bad engine though

[round swift]

That’s Jim Clark for ya, could win any race with any engine

[oblique dock]

Another engine worse than the BRM H16 would be the Yamaha OX88

Almost 100% at DNPQ’s

and 100% DNF’s over the course of 1 season

[round swift]

H

[round swift]

True lol

[slow grail]

day 12 of f1 first wins
maurice trintignant - 1955 monaco gp

[verbal prism]

A true beauty of a livery

[round swift]

Why is the quality like 144p lol

[twin pewter]

I'm heading to the historic grand prix at Zandvoort today, i can't wait

[chrome basin]

that’s why he’s the…?

oh shit i accidentally pinged

[spring ocean]

Not to long ago in history, but (correct me if I’m wrong) I believe that Alonso is the only driver to go to a team, leave; then come back, twice. (?)

[chrome basin]

that’s with mclaren and renault

technically 3 times in a row since alpine is basically renault

[round swift]

Does Nigel Mansell count?

Joined in 82 left in 92, then rejoined in 94 and then retired at the beginning of 95

Same with Niki Lauda

[round swift]

He’s one of the best F1 racers of all time 👀

[placid hearth]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GByFJjr1Fw&feature=youtu.be

sensational

love it whenever they look back

[light roost]

ikr'

[manic reef]

@GuyFawkes#3575

[spring ocean]

Yeah exactly

[past drift]

Mansell as well indeed. he joined Williams in 85, left in 89, rejoined it in 91, retired after 92, and back for a short stint in 94

[orchid beacon]

ya

poor mechanic

paralised

paralyzed*

[hybrid mango]

16.07.1995

Formula 1 1995 British Grand Prix Race Results🇬🇧

1.J.Herbert🇬🇧 (Benetton-Renault) 1h34m35.093s
2.J.Alesi🇫🇷 (Ferrari)+16.479s
3.D.Coulthard🇬🇧 (Williams-Renault)+23.888s
4.O.Panis🇫🇷 (Ligier-Mugen-Honda)+1.33.168
5.M.Blundell🇬🇧 (McLaren-Mercedes)+1.48.172
6.H.Harald Frentzen🇩🇪 (Sauber-Ford)+1 Lap
7.P.Martini🇮🇹 (Minardi-Ford)+1 Lap
8.M.Salo🇫🇮 (Tyrrell-Yamaha)+1 Lap
9.J.Christophe Bouillon🇫🇷 (Sauber-Ford)+1 Lap
10.L.Badoer🇮🇹 (Minardi-Ford)+1 Lap
11.R.Barrichello🇧🇷 (Jordan-Peugeot)+2 Laps
12.B.Gachot🇫🇷 (Pacific-Ford)+3 Laps
DNF.R.Moreno🇧🇷 (Forti-Ford)
DNF.M.Schumacher🇩🇪 (Benetton-Renault)
DNF.D.Hill🇬🇧 (Williams-Renault)
DNF.M.Papis🇮🇹 (Footwork-Hart)
DNF.U.Katayama🇯🇵 (Tyrrell-Yamaha)
DNF.A.Montermini🇮🇹 (Pacific-Ford)
DNF.M.Hakkinen🇫🇮 (McLaren-Mercedes)
DNF.G.Berger🇦🇹 (Ferrari)
DNF.M.Brundle🇬🇧 (Ligier-Mugen-Honda)
DNF.T.Inoue🇯🇵 (Footwork-Hart)
DNF.P.Diniz🇧🇷 (Forti-Ford)
DNF.E.Irvine🇬🇧 (Jordan-Peugeot)

[oblique dock]

A Lola T70 and a Peugeot 908?

[round swift]

Which of Piquets championship winning cars were illegal?

[lilac grail]

thats a lot of
dnfs

[covert orchid]

Might see the 2009 Toyota tomorrow

[past drift]

1983

and 1981 eheh. until it was made legal by the FIA and everyone else's

[round swift]

Y

[past drift]

illegal fuel from BASF, above legal octane levels

[twin pewter]

It was the Peugeot 90X

And the third is Dutchie, a 1930's rebuild by a passionate race fan

[round swift]

Thanks

[round swift]

A what?

[twin pewter]

Dutchie is a Nash inline 8 cylinder

the driver made it with the original chassis

the Peugeot had the famous FAP engine

i also saw Arturo Merzario

i was able to see the Tyrrell p34 as well, sadly i couldn't make a photo of it

[round swift]

Where did u go @twin pewter

[twin pewter]

the Historic grand prix at Zandvoort

[round swift]

Cool

@twin pewter send all ur pics

[twin pewter]

those were most of my pics tho, i wanted to make more, but the sights and sounds were too beautiful

[slow grail]

day 13 of f1 first wins
bob sweikert - 1955 indy 500

[round swift]

How did Walter Wolf Racing come about

[round swift]

What car

[woeful rapids]

F1

[past drift]

179?

[meager pewter]

If it's goodwood, 182

I was there

[round swift]

It’s the historic GP at Zandvoort.

[round swift]

Why isn’t it a turbo?

[meager pewter]

It's 1982

afaik they only tested the 890T to use it the next year

[round swift]

Ok

So only Renault were turbo in ‘82?

[past drift]

Ferrari as well, and Brabham (not the whole season), Toleman also.

[round swift]

Oh yeah

I thought Ferrari was using a 12 cylinder for some reason

[past drift]

they went turbo in 1981

becoming the second team to do so

[round swift]

Got it.

Was their turbo any good?

I know Renault and BMW are probs the top 2.

[past drift]

they won the 82 and 83 WCC

they had it right sooner than Renault

who obviously had lots of troubles setting up this new technology

(new in f1)

[round swift]

What car

[past drift]

DeTomaso sth

[round swift]

DeTomaso 505/38