classic-motorsport

[mystic anchor]

yeah assetto with mods is just on another level

[round swift]

f for that lighting

[mystic anchor]

lol

[short glade]

problem is that this channel is for real life pictures :c

[mystic anchor]

here ya go man

[short glade]

pog

[mystic anchor]

But wait there's more

[round swift]

woahhh

[marsh mango]

what team is this?

[mystic anchor]

Larrousse

[marsh mango]

oh

[forest socket]

is Schumi in the cockpit ?

[mystic anchor]

nope that's Bernd Schneider

[short glade]

micheal never drove for footwork

[mystic anchor]

yea

[oblique dock]

I never knew Bernd Schneider conducted a test with Mclaren

[mystic anchor]

I also recently found out

[past drift]

https://twitter.com/LegendarysF1/status/1492878777482981381

Legendary F1 🏁 (@LegendarysF1)

Leyton House CG901B

#F1

Likes

275

Twitter · Feb 13, 2022, 3:10 PM

[short glade]

poopy

[oblique dock]

I guess he probably did that due to Mercedes’ double involvement in DTM and F1 and the fact that he had a strong relationship with Mercedes, too

[past drift]

https://twitter.com/Bertie23574627/status/1492888407005143044

🇳🇱🅵1🆂🅲🅷🅸🅿🅿🅸🅴🧡 (@Bertie23574627)

Regazzoni vs Jones 🏁

Twitter · Feb 13, 2022, 3:48 PM

[mystic anchor]

and they only supplied engines to mclaren so off Schneider goes to test with them

[past drift]

what is?

[short glade]

the layton car

leyton

[frozen prism]

didnt newey design one of the leyton cars

[agile bramble]

condom vs shitbox

[mystic anchor]

2 I think

[past drift]

ye he designed all of them, basically.

[past drift]

shitbox that won the WCC, ye

[agile bramble]

yep

[frozen prism]

the shitbox was the 1974 car lauda tested

and the 1973 car was a shitbox

but lauda made the right configurations to make it a fastbox

[wheat violet]

wait durex was a sponsor?

[short glade]

70s yea

even back then people were like tf

reject condom embrace cigarette

[agile bramble]

durex needs to sponsor lando

[past drift]

ye they sponsored Team Surtees from 76 till 78

[late crag]

Maybe he can get some inter-rubber

[hardy briar]

I never knew that existed, wow

Really needs some more sponsors tho

Im guessing the side view is better

[hardy briar]

https://tenor.com/view/its-a-shitbox-its-a-ferrari-gif-21704635

[idle gale]

"It's a Ferrari!"

"It's a shitbox!"

[oblique dock]

The dreaded F92A

[hardy briar]

At least it looked good

[frozen prism]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g2Xio9h6EWM

This was the day before the San Marino GP

Senna was doing an onboard demonstration lap of San Marino

[round swift]

🙏

[hardy briar]

Gosh that hurts so bad

Don’t worry mods no senna in the picture

[idle gale]

Wow, this rendered artwork...

(I can take it down if it's against the server rules)

Also Michael before he broke down after he equalled Ayrton's wins record

[tiny flower]

that press conference

so sad

and ralf

was trying not to laugh istg

[hardy briar]

Non-fatal accident so I believe its ok

We don’t post fatal accidents out of respect and basic human decency

[past drift]

Don't worry, I've watched the whole race 🙂

[round swift]

This is giving me F1 2019 video game feels

Also that whole picture is inaccurate, I’ve seen the crash on YouTube…

[hardy dirge]

This makes me sad

Senna was a Chad

He literally prevented Erik from dying in a massive explosion

[idle gale]

Alain Prost: "When Ayrton died, a part of me died as well..."

[round swift]

Actually senna wanted Alain to stay in formula one in 1994

Two days after the last GP of the 1993 season, Senna called me begging me to accept: 'Alain, you have to stay in F1. Nobody motivates me among the other drivers like you do'. It was really sensational.”

[analog jasper]

man

[round swift]

😔

[analog jasper]

a prost v senna v schumacher

that wouldve been great

[round swift]

would have been amazing

[past drift]

It happened in 93

[analog jasper]

yeah but

a title battle

prost dominated 93

[past drift]

Right, idk how it would happen tbh

Prost needs to stay at Williams pairing with Ayrton

He tested for McLaren but the Peugeot was way off to allow him to mount a title challenge. Plus he was still under contract with Williams afaio

[frozen prism]

Happy Birthday to the Super Swede Ronnie Peterson

Today he would have been 68

Taken 34 years too early.

[analog jasper]

thats really sad

[uneven parcel]

looks like seb

[oblique dock]

Is it weird that Ronnie Peterson reminds me of James May?

[round swift]

Looks like Seb and Kvyat fusion

[pearl stone]

right

[hardy briar]

Quite the opposite

Similar in looks maybe

[oblique dock]

I kinda want to imagine James May cosplaying as Ronnie Pererson, but I guess it would only work if James was a bit younger

[past drift]

https://twitter.com/Bertie23574627/status/1492794342448189444

🇳🇱🅵1🆂🅲🅷🅸🅿🅿🅸🅴🧡 (@Bertie23574627)

Villeneuve 🏆🏁

Likes

715

Twitter · Feb 13, 2022, 9:34 AM

[hardy briar]

Idk why but those cars without the front wing just remind me of the f-18 so much

You see it?

[past drift]

yeah they were kinda odd

imagine if cars nowadays had no front wing

[round swift]

I mean the cars nowaday are ground effect again so

[hardy briar]

👀

[analog jasper]

is that an f18

oh

yeah, i didnt finish reading the sentence

[idle gale]

The first car with a Carbon Fibre chassis

[meager pewter]

New cars without front wings... Well

That have aero regs designed to allow it would be sico

[idle gale]

Jim and Jackie

[oblique dock]

At Indy!

[frozen prism]

Happy Birthday to the late great Graham Hill

He died aged 46, today would have been his 93rd Birthday

He was never able to live his next 46 years.

The only driver with the Triple Crown of Motorsports

[frozen prism]

'82 brazil?

[past drift]

Uhh idk, probably

[frozen prism]

One is wasted potential, one is unfulfilled potential

[analog jasper]

wouldnt call jacques wasted

he won a wdc in both f1 and cart

[frozen prism]

Gilles Villeneuve - Absolutely Crazy

[past drift]

🙂

[round swift]

Happy birthday Graham❤️

[idle gale]

David after crashing into the Adelaide pit lane entrance

[round swift]

f for him

[past drift]

While leading the race

[round swift]

Didn’t he slid on oil?

[idle gale]

I don't know. But Adelaide's pit lane entry had a reputation for being a difficult entrance even to veteran drivers. Hell, even some V8 Supercars drivers had trouble getting into the Adelaide pit lane

[round swift]

Lol

[past drift]

Imagine it's your last race for a team, you're leading it and bim your chances like thay

[round swift]

rip

[frozen prism]

i mean even if he stayed with williams he wouldve still probably be the #2 driver to damon or jacques

[past drift]

He already was

[frozen prism]

fair enough

[frozen prism]

Senna storming through Interlagos | Brazil 1994

[oblique dock]

…And then he spun out

[frozen prism]

he was closing in on Schumacher

I think was it he closed a 10 second lead to 5 seconds

[analog jasper]

damn

and then he spun

[round swift]

Damn

[past drift]

Front was unstable iirc

[frozen prism]

it was the rear

or a combination of both

[round swift]

Probably both

It was very bad to say nonetheless

[frozen prism]

aerodynamically yes

in every other aspect no

[round swift]

I mean the power was down compared to last years engine

[frozen prism]

it was still powerful

[round swift]

The chassis was also worst than last years

[frozen prism]

both Senna and Damon put up good performances

[round swift]

Senna didn’t finish a race

[frozen prism]

yeah but 3 pole positions

[round swift]

Ok

0 points

[frozen prism]

Brazil was the only race where the blame was put on him

in Aida he was taken out

[round swift]

I put the blame on the car rather then him

[frozen prism]

pretty much

[round swift]

Same with Imola

[frozen prism]

but Williams failed to adapt as well as other teams

it was only after his death they were able to make the car better

[round swift]

Benetton were ahead

[past drift]

No? Where do you get that from

[round swift]

Sorry I was thinking about the 1995 season

The 94 had like 30 more horsepower

[past drift]

ye, for 95 they downsized the engines from 3.5L to 3L

[wheat violet]

wow 3.5 to 3 and now we're at 1.6

[past drift]

it was 1.5L before the 3.5

[round swift]

Big ol’ turbo

[past drift]

and these 1.5L had the stupid quali special engines that would do like 1200 bhp

[round swift]

More like 1500+ bro lol

So much power and sounded so nice

[past drift]

they didn't really measure i think, it was as much power as possible

and not all were equal, the BMW seems to have been the most extreme of these

[round swift]

BMW M12

The most badass engine ever

[past drift]

but that thing would rev 35,000 times, and blow up

[round swift]

Awesome

🤩

[past drift]

enough for 1 fast lap, basically

[round swift]

Qualifying trim

[past drift]

yep, i see figures of 5.5 bar of turbo boost, but i wouldn't be surprised if these engines had even more

[oblique dock]

Honda and Porsche dominated the turbo era

[past drift]

sad Renault noises

[oblique dock]

Yeah. The only other engine manufacturers to achieve success during the turbo era were Ferrari and BMW

[past drift]

yeah, Renault fucked up massively in 82

and in 83 they only had 1 really good driver

[oblique dock]

I wonder who would’ve been a better candidate than Eddie Cheever

[past drift]

Laffite

he moved to Williams and it didn't work out for him at all

[oblique dock]

I agree

[past drift]

de ANgelis also wanted out of Lotus in 82 at some point

[oblique dock]

Renault would still have an all French lineup if Laffite signed with them

[past drift]

ye

and Laffite was friends with Prost

so it might not have turned civil between the 2

[oblique dock]

True. Renault would’ve scored more points and Laffite would’ve scored more wins. It’s a win-win.

I also think that Michele Alboreto would have also done better than Eddie Cheever at Renault, since he won the 1982 Caeser’s Palace GP for Tyrrell and also racking up a podium that year

[past drift]

yes, but Ken wouldn't let him go so soon

he was paid big buck by Ferrari to let him go in 84

[hardy briar]

[urban patio]

i disagree

(╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻

[past drift]

he did a mistake

it happens

especially when a car is tricky to handle

[urban patio]

bo)

[crystal galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/f1-screenshot-to-choose-formula1-f1car-screenshot-to-choose-your-f1car-gif-23584617

[mystic anchor]

slow enough that I could drive it in a karting circuit

[crystal galleon]

https://tenor.com/view/f1-formula1-ferrari-f1-mclaren-f1-gif-24714345

[round swift]

Damn it

The teapot 🫖

[wheat violet]

damn timing

[gray gate]

Hehe pp car

[round swift]

[wheat violet]

take the image i sent

[round swift]

thank u

[hardy briar]

Some of those definitely aren’t classic, and plus i thought we put this stuff in #memes-no-ai-will-delete-😡

[round swift]

Bruh 👀

[round swift]

Sad to know he wasn’t there to make it

😔

[past drift]

where is that, Ferrari, McLaren?

[analog jasper]

are these all mcl drivers?

[round swift]

Definitely not Ferrari

Lewis is there!!

It’s mclaren

[analog jasper]

you can see lewis and

brundle

[past drift]

oh ye i forgot Gayhard Burger drove for McLaren lol

[round swift]

Yup

[analog jasper]

when was this

[round swift]

He drove for Ferrari too

[past drift]

ye that's what got me confused

but the floor is grey so.. it's gotta be McLaren

[round swift]

Has to be around 2005 or 06

[analog jasper]

yeah with alesi iirc

then benetton

can barely recognize half

[round swift]

Cause Lewis didn’t start F1 until 06 right

Or was it 07

[analog jasper]

07

[past drift]

Berger drove for Ferrari 1987-1989 and 1993-1995

[round swift]

A lot of Ferrari and mclaren drivers in this picture

Niki lauda is there too

With his red hat

Where is Ron Dennis

[past drift]

it's probably 2006 yeah, Fernando isn't here

nor is Heikki, which would be possible if it was 2008

not on the pic

the Ron

[round swift]

The background is a red old car

Makes me think it is Ferrari

But Lewis never joined Ferrari

[past drift]

last time i checked, he hasn't

[round swift]

Coulthard is there too aswell

And same with Häkkinen

[analog jasper]

coulthard with his chin

[round swift]

Square

[analog jasper]

you can see brundle too, i think thats brundle

[round swift]

Yup

And Stefan johnnsan

Johansson

Has to be McLaren

I think I see Kimi beside Lewis

Behind Alain

How many world championships do you see in that picture?

[analog jasper]

is andretti there

michael

[analog jasper]

15 currently

3 from lauda, 4 from prost, 1 from kimi and 7 from lewis

[round swift]

17

[analog jasper]

ah yeah

mika

is that tambay beside prost

[past drift]

maybe, not too sure

[analog jasper]

similar hair

[round swift]

Don’t think so but could be

[past drift]

right, checked it online and ye that should be him

[round swift]

Yeah I think it is

[past drift]

formula atlantic?

[round swift]

Canam

1977

Holy speedo

🤣

[past drift]

Brundle in alpha mode

[round swift]

Where’s Ayrton

[past drift]

https://twitter.com/LegendarysF1/status/1494327522367967245

Legendary F1 🏁 (@LegendarysF1)

Ferrari 412/T2

#F1 https://t.co/kAHzg3L0uM

Likes

288

Twitter · Feb 17, 2022, 3:06 PM

[round swift]

:o

[hardy briar]

Still find it crazy Alesi only had 1 win in his entire career, I could have sworn he had more

[round swift]

He should’ve had more he is a great driver

[hardy briar]

They all were

Only problem with f1 is there can only be one wdc each year

[round swift]

And it was only 16 races a season compared to 22 races nowadays

[hardy briar]

More opportunity nowadays

[round swift]

Yes especially 2022 👀

Who gonna win

[low valve]

Mazepin

!!

[round swift]

oop

[oblique dock]

Surtees and NART

[ionic tiger]

i wish they still named Ferraris like that

cant think of Ferrari without thinking 458

[hardy briar]

Ikr

[round swift]

Does anyone know who the man beside frank is

[analog jasper]

which man

[round swift]

far right. the one who lookin like he's gawking

old guy

[analog jasper]

the guy on the left is patrick head ye?

[idle gale]

The last points scoring female F1 driver

The Aussie, the Scot and the American

The Greats of the 50s and 60s

[hardy briar]

I wish to see that changed sometime

[past drift]

What video is this

[round swift]

That is the Japanese grand prix of 1988

[past drift]

Ok

[covert raven]

the car that took Michael Schumacher to 100 percent podium finishes in 2002

[hardy briar]

[round swift]

[hushed hull]

In 2001 didn’t Michael get the 2002 car early or something like that?

[round swift]

Yes it was called the F2001B

[hushed hull]

Yeah thanks

[covert raven]

yes as rightly said by murray walker, it was called f2001b

[idle gale]

Caution: Wide Vehicle

[hardy briar]

Thing is

It’s probably not much wider than most cars

Its just so short

[analog jasper]

sex

[round swift]

What

[analog jasper]

what

[round swift]

Why

[analog jasper]

beauty

seks

[low valve]

yes

[round swift]

1993 Liger didn’t have active suspension and still managed to get a few podiums and points, woah.

[past drift]

solid aero and a good engine

[karmic trellis]

Prost tested for Ligier in 1992 and was 1.9 seconds faster than the contracted driver

Ligier would have competed for podiums regulary with him maybe even an odd win.

[meager pewter]

Wdym not much wider? The 76 McLaren was 2,185mm wide

Or 86" In Medieval

F1 cars got wide as hecc from 70-92

[past drift]

hehe

[round swift]

Yeah Prost was pretty fast!! Most wins until 2000

[low valve]

arent the current cars around 2m wide

[meager pewter]

Yes

They have been from 1993-1997/2017-

[round swift]

YO

JACQUES VILLENEUVE IS RACING IN DAYTONA 500 RN

[oblique dock]

🇨🇦

[round swift]

Go Jacques!!

Someone said I hope nobody turns into him 🤣🤣

1997 flashbacks

😔🤣

[frozen prism]

OTD: Ferenc Szisz, the first winner of a Grand Prix event dies aged 70.

[frozen prism]

This haunting collage are photos of many drivers preparing for the final laps they ever raced in before their untimely deaths

[analog jasper]

ik this is really out of context but they had glorious hair

[blissful junco]

They are, Gilles Villeneuve, Ronnie Peterson, Ayrton Senna, Jim Clark, and Jochen Rindt right?

[frozen prism]

yeah

the occuring circumstance here is that they always looked stressed or bothered

Clark didnt wanna do that F2 race, Villeneuve wanted to outqualify Pironi, Senna was just stressed in general and Ronnie had to use an old car that was too small for him

and the car that Rindt was testing had already been crashed by Emerson Fittipaldi the other day and didnt feel like testing the car

[idle gale]

Is the 7UP Jordan technically the first car to have a drink sponsorship?

[hardy briar]

Peterson?

Man the 79 was such a cool car

[calm briar]

For soft drinks? I think so.

Martini cars came long before, though.

[hardy briar]

I built a model of Andretti’s car

[north sand]

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[round swift]

1989 Benetton had it first btw!!

[oblique dock]

Pepsi 191? There’s something about it that doesn’t feel right

[round swift]

It was at the Japan circuit

They ran pepsi instead of 7up there

[oblique dock]

Interesting

I wonder why

[round swift]

7up wasn’t allowed or something like that

And they were going to go with Pepsi before 7up but pepsi decided to go with Michael Jackson instead

Lol

Search it up it’s true!! 🤣

[oblique dock]

Woah

I gotta look this up

[round swift]

https://www.reddit.com/r/formula1/comments/5mq9hm/til_that_f1_lost_the_beloved_7up_jordan_livery/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf

[past drift]

The picture shows Ronnie in a 79, didn't he do the race in a 78?

Nice collage regardless, haunting as you say

[frozen prism]

oh right

yeah the 78 has some distinctive profiles not on the 79

[little fulcrum]

Blue and pink

Awesome

[ocean zenith]

God pls ban bwt from f1 they are running good cars

[limber atlas]

bt60 front wing lookin massive goddam

[edgy chasm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yC-Xxl5urqk

[oblique dock]

YES

T-SQUARE!

Also, I assume your pfp is from Fuji TV’s F1 intro used from 1995-1998

[edgy chasm]

yes

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/1PHWP5Zpkhs

T-Square and the Japanese Philharmonic Orchestra

[edgy chasm]

amazing

[frozen prism]

i still love the little nods to Gilles with his helmet

[agile bramble]

they literally sponsor f1
and its not illegal

since they aint no tobacco company

[analog jasper]

both onyx and brabham were backmarkers eh?

[frozen prism]

oh god

oh no oh god

imagine alpine becomes a backmarker

[trim solstice]

[frozen prism]

exactly

i dont want fernando to keep complaining about gp2 engine again

[frozen prism]

Francois Cevert suits up for a Practice session at the 1973 US Grand Prix, he would suit up for the last time as he was tragically killed minutes later.

[agile bramble]

wth is that

[frozen prism]

what is what

[agile bramble]

is that animation or sth

[frozen prism]

no

they were filming a documentary during the US Grand Prix

[agile bramble]

oh

[frozen prism]

but they never knew Cevert was gonna die

[agile bramble]

ok

[round swift]

Looks so good wdym

[oblique dock]

The inspiration behind Jacques Villeneuve’s helmet!

[late crag]

Joann's clothing

[ocean zenith]

I don’t like pink it makes it worse on stuff like cars

[round swift]

Personal opinion

All beautiful

[trim solstice]

ur sus

[round swift]

lol

[oblique dock]

[hardy briar]

Not true at all

Beautiful if used respectfully and in small amounts

Not just covering a car in bubble gum

[idle gale]

Great Teammates and Great Friends

[agile bramble]

lmao what

[round swift]

What?

It has pink on the back

[agile bramble]

ur sus

[round swift]

😞

[idle gale]

The Subaru Coloni, which somehow managed to clock a 5:15.010 during the 1990 USGP Pre-Qualifying

And let that sink in. The Flat 12 powered Coloni clocked the slowest ever time in F1 history until the Life L190 managed to beat that with a 7:16:212 at the San Marino GP Pre-Qualifying sesson

[round swift]

🤣

[analog jasper]

thats determination

[slender veldt]

[round swift]

[frozen prism]

even Senna looked out for Berger

when Senna found out in advance of the entire McLaren team that Honda were leaving them after 1992 he told Berger to get out of McLaren and try to find a better team

[past drift]

He didn't listen

[frozen prism]

he did

he went to Ferrari in 93

[past drift]

A better team

Man chooses Ferrari

[hardy briar]

[slender veldt]

if senna gone in ferrari in 94....

[frozen prism]

i mean senna kind of carried mclaren

either way berger wouldve had similar results in mclaren or ferrari in 1993

[past drift]

No, the mp4/6 was really good

Uhh

8

/8 in 93.

They had excellent electronics

[meager pewter]

They didn't have the Fords the Benettons did tho

[past drift]

for half the season they didn't

and it didn't really make a difference, as far as Ayrton was concerned

[round swift]

1993 was better then 1992 season

[past drift]

oh definitely

there was a title fight at least

[oblique dock]

Senna was going all out with an underpowered Mclaren

[past drift]

shame Honda wouldn't do like now, and still provide McLaren with engines after they stopped developping them

at least one season or 2

although switching from V10 to V12 was probably a mistake

[meager pewter]

Why?

[oblique dock]

The RA121E was less powerful and also heavier compared to the RA100E from 1990

[short glade]

91 went well

92 not so much

[oblique dock]

Senna finished 4th in the WDC. The last time that happened was in 1986.

[short glade]

what a noob

[oblique dock]

Yeah. Andrea De Cesaris can do sooo much better than that

[short glade]

93 was better than 92 but not better than 91

94 was a failure

95-06 had some success with serious unreliability

[oblique dock]

If Peugeot never entered F1 and stuck to sportscars, then just maybe, Mclaren could have had a better 1994 season

(If they stuck with ford for another year, of course)

[short glade]

their only choice was ford or peugeot

renault obviously wont want to power their rival and everyone else was horrible

ford was pretty good with benetton and peugeot was just some new guy

and peugeot had v10s

and v10 > v8??

[oblique dock]

Well the B194 was the last V8 powered F1 car to win a championship until 2006

[short glade]

mhm

v8s in f1 started to die

v10 was the shit

v12 was too unreliable and heavy

[oblique dock]

The only time V12’s ever succeeded in the 1990’s was when Ferrari used the 641, Senna winning his final WDC, and Ferrari managing to win 1 race in 1994 and 1995

[short glade]

ferrari was quite bad in the 90s

except the late 90s

[oblique dock]

It’s kinda funny how 1990 was their most successfull season during their V12 phase

1989 was ok, 1990 was amazing, 1991 was kinda meh, 1992 and 1993 were crap, and 1994 and 1995 were ok

[short glade]

they revved quite higher than everyone else too

95 was horrible

[hardy briar]

I read that as v10 was shit and i was about to beat you with a hammer

[oblique dock]

If you discounted Alesi’s performance that year.

[short glade]

according to assetto corsa the mid 90s ferraris are quite slow

[round swift]

V12 + manual = ❤️

[meager pewter]

How.mp4

[round swift]

Actually the RA122E/B was more powerful then it

Same with RA121E

RA121E made a maximum of 780 horsepower whereas the RA100E made a maximum of 710 horsepower.

[idle gale]

The classic Team Haas Lola team, which has no relations to the current modern Haas team

[oblique dock]

Fun fact: Ross Brawn was part of the team

[past drift]

V12s are heavier, and we've basically gotten from this era of regs that the V10 was the sweet spot between weight and power.

Obviously you can never have hindsight when you need it, but i feel their V10 wasn't broken per se, and they could've kept and improved it instead of losing time by starting anew

[past drift]

And Newey for some time

[round swift]

Beatrice makes good chocolate milk

[frozen prism]

ah yes Alan Jones drove for them

only sent his career into a further downhill

[past drift]

not really? he wasn't forced to unretire

[meager pewter]

The RA121E was the same weight as the RA101E

And the B-Spec got to 765~

With the 122 getting to 780

Coz damn Honda were about a year ahead in power gains

[spice quartz]

Honda had the most powerful engine on the grid that season, the Renault RS3(*maybe the name is wrong,I don't remember it at all.) engine was with 65-80 bhp weaker than the RA121E, but it was lighter.

The difference was around between 19-30 kg, I think.

[round swift]

Renault are RS, Honda is RA

ah wait nvm

[spice quartz]

I forgot to mention.

Fixed.

[round swift]

The RA121E made about ten more hp then the RS3

But not sure about the weight

http://www.f1-forecast.com/pdf/F1-Files/Honda/F1-SP2_02e.pdf

Somewhere in there

[spice quartz]

It says that the RS3 had 700 bhp, but maybe during the season were made upgrades of the engine.

[round swift]

Yeah the RS3 had 700hp

@ 12,500rpm

While the RA121E had 710 @ 13,000

rpm

RS3 wasn’t as impressed as the all mighty RS4 and RS5

[spice quartz]

True.

Just got wrong information about Honda's engine power.

But again, their engines were weaker than Ferrari's engine.

Maybe around 725 bhp was the power of the engine.

But it was unreliable, like the car.

[spice quartz]

Is there anybody to chat here?

[round swift]

It’s 2:40am here so imma go to bed lmao

[round swift]

Yeah just a little bit better

[spice quartz]

Oh, ok.

[round swift]

“The 641 was powered by the 3.5-litre Tipo 036 V12 engine, and later in San Marino by the updated 710 bhp (529 kW; 720 PS) Tipo 037. The Tipo 036 V12 was rated at 680 bhp (507 kW; 689 PS), only slightly down on the 690 bhp (515 kW; 700 PS) Honda V10 engines used by McLaren, but not as flexible or as good at delivering power out of slow corners as the Honda, the Renault V10 engine used by Williams or the Ford-Cosworth HB V8 used by Benetton.”

[spice quartz]

Well, still slightly powerless.

[meager pewter]

Just a shame we couldn't have the Isuzu in the mix

[spice quartz]

True.

[meager pewter]

That bad boi got to 755-765 when Honda was in 780 by 92, and Renault in 93

[spice quartz]

True, yeah.

Not bad for an experimental engine.

[meager pewter]

Just an engine built by 4 guys in the back

Then a bunch of Honda and Yamaha geezers joining in

[spice quartz]

Indeed.

And Lotus used them.

Not bad.

Well, that's what Wikipedia says.

🙂

[meager pewter]

Yeah, the 4 guys in the back... Or the story is given that they'd made the Isuzu V12 as they wanted Lotus to be as they were before they lost the Honda deal

[fair ivy]

https://twitter.com/mclarenf1/status/1496836693147668487?s=21

[round swift]

With Haas dropping Uralkali, I’d like to ask when was the last time this happened when a car had almost 0 sponsors and was all white?

[oblique dock]

https://preview.redd.it/6o4jgcj8rfi31.jpg?auto=webp&s=bdc7a4487010a56628b42d33122857295de04e42

This was an unraced car, though.

[low valve]

Wait what are haas 100% dropping uralkali?

[round swift]

Yep

for tmr for sure

for the rest Idk

[round swift]

Lmao damn that’s tough

[past drift]

ngl this 1989 Brabham performed very well

and looked better than its average counterparts

[short glade]

@low valve @round swift haas is not dropping uralkali forever

just for tomorrow

[low valve]

ah ok got it @short glade, thanks

[round swift]

Communism

They should drop them

But they need them

[edgy chasm]

Sema 1997

[round swift]

It do be looking good tho

[past drift]

What has this got to do with communism

[low valve]

?

[edgy chasm]

This Mclaren was at sema 1997

[undone estuary]

i love renault r25

[round swift]

Cause Russia thinks they own Ukraine. That’s like me going up to you and saying, “Look, you’re apart of me now”, take it or leave it.

[past drift]

i still don't see the link with communism

[round swift]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Soviet_Socialist_Republic

Let me educate you just like my history teacher did while I feel asleep

[past drift]

you know Ukraine was part of the Russian empire before that, right?

[round swift]

They want back and they said no no no

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Communist_Party_of_Ukraine

Russia-first thing to come to mind is communism

Canada-first thing to come to mind is maple syrup

[past drift]

maybe to you, and many other people 🙂

[round swift]

Oh and one more thing that comes to mind is weird car crashes and then they yell in Russian with boozes in their hand

[past drift]

yeah, Russians didn't have cars for many years, it came too fast after the USSR collapsed. so their driving and safety skills are subpar compared to western countries

[round swift]

Lol sometimes after I drive, I watch their videos and it makes me feel better about my driving

[frozen prism]

maybe the explanation for Mazepin continously spinning (yes its a dead meme)

[frozen prism]

didnt John Barnard design this Brabham before designing the MP4/4

[round swift]

Yes the Brabham BT55

And it was Steve Nicholas not John

[frozen prism]

the one who designed the Brabham or the McLaren?

[round swift]

Both

Murray and Nicholas

[frozen prism]

ah right i mistook Barnard for Murray and Nicholas

but yeah didnt Prost hate the design for the MP4/4 at first because of his feet placement?

[round swift]

Im not sure

[frozen prism]

all i know is their feet would probably have to be extended further than from the 1987 car

that long sleek nose is what I like about the MP4/4

but the pre-1988 cars still look gorgeous

[round swift]

Yeah

[meager pewter]

https://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/car/4812/Alfa-Romeo-182-F1-138010.jpg

Stubby bubby

[past drift]

it was fast

surprising, when Carlo Chiti is no longer technical director, the cars get fast

then they fired Ducarouge for rubbish reasons halfway through 83 and he landed at Lotus

[meager pewter]

What the Alfa 182?

[past drift]

yes

[north sand]

Congrats @past drift, you're now on lap 35

[oblique dock]

Task failed successfully

[past drift]

yep, in 84 and 85 Alfa was nowhere

[low valve]

Oh. I read it as senna for some reason haha

[hardy briar]

Uhh

That’s definitely a post-2002 car

[crystal galleon]

Uhh be quiet

[hardy briar]

No

[meager pewter]

Have my favourite renault... Or well, 80's renault

[idle gale]

I'd imagine that the steering in the late 80s-early 90s cars would have been quite heavy. Since this was before Power Steering was introduced in F1. Though, I could be wrong

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/TTi585p_Vz4

Satoru Nakajima VS a Honda Prelude

[meager pewter]

Yes because of course, no because 500kg

[round swift]

Not really when the car had carbon fibre and was light

I mean they could’ve had power steering

The 1988 Ligier had it

“During their peak era in the 1990’s they implemented this design. Damon Hill said that he was told to switch off his power steering before the restart of the 1994 San Marino Grand Prix following the Ayrton Senna incident.”

Either hydraulic or electrical

[past drift]

Why this attitude when the man is just reminding you of the channel purpose?

[fair ivy]

Moments before disaster

[late crag]

"Michael, you hit the wrong part of his car!"

[slender veldt]

2001 ferrati for twins towers

[round swift]

Yup

After 9/11

[slender veldt]

For monza right?

[past drift]

ye

and as usual with these special liveries, they didn't win

[meager pewter]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DJ4NwkxWAAAoNh6.jpg

https://www.supercars.net/blog/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/jaguar-eddie-irvine-f1-2001-291.jpg

[round swift]

Yup

https://preview.redd.it/7mlzojzvlj421.jpg?auto=webp&s=12c06eb60a300547c0565de8775416eeb295b3e5

[slender veldt]

Ok

[round swift]

And the race previously to Monza was micheal Schumachers 52nd win which surpassed Alain Prosts 51 wins

At Belgium I believe

[past drift]

correct

[round swift]

And that the 2000 Italian GP was when Micheal Schumacher tied Ayrton senna for wins

And that was a year and a day before the 9/11 attacks

September 10 2000

Pretty weird considering that he tied Alain’s record a year later

Guess he was a good driver

[past drift]

he was by and large the best of his generation

[round swift]

Best qualifier hands down Senna

But best race day driver has to be Schumacher

He has 77 fastest laps

Lewis has like 59

Something nobody is going to beat

And tied sennas wins in only nine seasons

[past drift]

until someone does

best qualifier.. idk, Lewis is miles ahead now. he tied Senna at roughly the same time Senna died in that exercise

[round swift]

See ya in 40 years

Lol

[past drift]

tbf there was no real incentive to go for that record until a few years ago

[round swift]

Fastest lap fastest driver? And also one point

[past drift]

Kimi was excellent at that, without needing another invitation

ye that 1 pt

[round swift]

Kimi was good same with Schumacher

2008 was good for Kimi

[past drift]

he was quite unlucky races wise

[round swift]

He and micheal are tied for most fastest laps in a season with 10

2004 and 2008 I think

https://staticg.sportskeeda.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/12016140_10206580691249684_1739958133_o1-1442549424-800.jpg

I would say senna was still the better qualifier but we all have different opinions

https://external-preview.redd.it/vGyWvUTPV6Imol2ZhlwvnaA2OxV05-7ZbIbrbjjC1N0.jpg?auto=webp&s=dd7b965e6b0062e42917883f9637e43ea1635fbd

[past drift]

Senna managed to get lots of poles in cars that wouldn't get him a title

unlike Lewis, so there's that

[frozen prism]

best qualifier has to be Senna

Senna was still the man who set the pace despite not being in the fastest car

[past drift]

scroll just a little bit to read my last messages on the matter 😉

[low valve]

Factos

[oblique dock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpYjBG9ROt4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kS_teayyvZQ

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahMhfcuOo_w

Behold, the unraced Honda F1 projects in action!

[round swift]

Nice thanks

[south tree]

there is another one, the Ra099

[past drift]

another one

[south tree]

I mean this car, altho I know this image was already posted, so yep

And the driver is Jos Verstappen

[past drift]

i find it quite fascinating how Honda never was successful as a team

and in general seems to have pulled the plug the moment they were about to be successful, after they parted ways with McLaren in 92

[signal flint]

But why were they a good engine supplier just not team

[last citrus]

bmw kinda suffered that fate, i wanna see them return

[past drift]

hmm yeah, in a way it was the same. except Honda didn't do a strategic move wrong regarding the reg change

[oblique dock]

The most they did was achieve a few wins in the 60’s with Surtees and Ginther, and also that win at Hungary in ‘06 with Jenson Button.

After ‘06, they went to shit.

[past drift]

yeah ik

and in 09 they would have won

[oblique dock]

….if Ross Brawn didn’t purchase the team?

[past drift]

if they didn't pull the plug yeah

Brawn won

i don't see why Honda with proper money wouldn't win with the same outfit

and car.

[oblique dock]

Would have been interesting

I could just imagine a Honda powered BGP001… but I’m not sure how Honda as an engine supplier would fare compared to the others if they were still active in 2009

[past drift]

the Honda engine was really good

[last citrus]

Imagine they didn’t sell to brawn

[past drift]

i think they'd have multiple titles, but who would replace the Mercedes team

good question

[last citrus]

You think they would have survived to 2022?

If they didn’t sell

[past drift]

well, they would have won at least

that's a compelling case to keep on investing in the F1 programme

[last citrus]

I personally think they could have thrived to a Midfield team

[round swift]

Jackie

Is that the Nürburgring

Or Monza

[oblique dock]

It’s the ring

He’s going through the Karussel

[round swift]

Ah ok

Love that circuit

Nürburgring and Hockenheimring

Classics

I think Jackie called that circuit the green hell

or something like that

[oblique dock]

He did

[round swift]

I always wanted to drive there but I don’t live in Europe

[round swift]

https://youtu.be/FViAIa_C8d8?t=690

it starts towards the end

great watch

[idle gale]

When Jeremy Clarkson went Head to Head with Johnny Herbert and Collin Mcrae

[oblique dock]

[round swift]

https://preview.redd.it/isku4m8hp0101.jpg?auto=webp&s=409ff5e267bfb47be42529d11c5fc03a0e1ac614

[short glade]

alfa

?

[round swift]

Yessir

[short glade]

smol badge on the nose looked like it

[round swift]

Lol

Alfa 177

The 177 marked Alfa Romeo's return to Formula One, 28 years after winning the World Drivers' Championship titles in 1950 and 1951.

[short glade]

nice

then in 84 or 85 they left again

[round swift]

1985

[short glade]

yes

then in 2019 they came back again lol

[round swift]

185T

yup lol

Riccardo Patrese said that it was the worst car he had ever drove

[short glade]

lmao

[south tree]

During their time out of f1 they were giving engines tho

To Andrea de Adamich and brabham in the 70s

And from 1983 to 88 to Osella

[round swift]

Not a constructer though just an engine supplier

[meager pewter]

Shame we never got the Alfa V10

[round swift]

https://youtu.be/XLdgZ9wxm6c

[south tree]

True

[round swift]

Supposedly it was going to be used in the 1986 season but it fell through

[south tree]

I though it got tested in a Ligier

[round swift]

No I don’t think so

Why a ligier?

It also got tested in a pro-car

https://external-preview.redd.it/eixmksbZtlENUuzoNdGmcwSb5KIsptCTIx0mu29t0lE.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=13397225a861d8449cd218e583d3894616a5542d

Look it’s Michael Schumacher!!

[south tree]

Nevermind. Alfa romeo engines Ligier used where in line 4 on 1987

But i think ferrari stopped it, so they changed to Megatron (BMW)

[past drift]

that was a 4 cyl

[south tree]

True

Arnoux said it was trash or smth

[past drift]

ye, they used this excuse to withdraw completely

but there's certainly something else cause this engine was never used again. maybe it was really trash

[south tree]

Maybe this trash engine and the v10 are kinda related apart from the fact both are from Alfa Romeo

[south tree]

Talking about Patrese, he drove once the RA107

[round swift]

Lotud

With s

[round swift]

That livery is pretty good tho

Oh is this a classic photo?

[fleet bronze]

2016

[round swift]

Bruh

[fleet bronze]

Oh well

[round swift]

What team

[round swift]

Ligier

[round swift]

Context plz

The team was ligier

[south tree]

that was Ligier's car in 1993

only that the test was in '94

[round swift]

December 1994

[south tree]

and the test was because Benetton were going to use Renault engines for '95

and since also Ligier used them aswell...

[round swift]

Thanks

[hardy briar]

🇫🇮>🇷🇺

[oblique dock]

Winter War, Colorised

[tepid horizon]

senna at the carnival of 1992

[oblique dock]

“Oh my god… Ayrton wasn’t kidding.”

[meager pewter]

Because they were supplying Ligier in 87 and 88, but the deal fell through when... Boutsen? Told Alfa their 4-Cylinder was awful and so rip the homies

[round swift]

Watching 1988 Japan. They are playing the top gun theme in the cool down room. Prost is sitting shirtless unaware he is live lol

[south tree]

Arnoux

[meager pewter]

FIAT just went nawy

[round swift]

That’s true because I remember reading about that

And found that so funny 😂

[frozen prism]

ah that reminds me about James Hunt in Monaco 89

"and all I can say to that is bullshit"

[south tree]

That reminded me

Hunt had a ride on that year Williams

The FW12c

Lemme find pics of it

[south tree]

Yeah

At Paul Ricard

[oblique dock]

John Watson in the FW11B

[south tree]

Actually, just found something

Lauda in Jag R2

This was in 2002 at Valencia

[frozen prism]

yeah i saw that

he spun later on

but did well despite being 52

[south tree]

And knowing the cars he used to race with were very different

[frozen prism]

and he was 52

so ill give him a break

[frozen prism]

Senna | San Marino 1994

[agile bramble]

[round swift]

[late crag]

He was disturbed on the day of the race, debating on if he should race

but he did it in the name of Ratzenberger

[frozen prism]

yeah and in the grand scheme of things he had to race

if he didnt he would be 30 points behind schumacher

and he wanted to pay respect to roland

[late crag]

He didn't know what would come just an hour later

[tiny flower]

he had the Austrian flag in his car as well

To wave if/when he won

In honour of ratzenburger

[late crag]

Hang it around him on the podium, possibly

[frozen prism]

actually i dont think that storys true

yes he wanted to wave the austrian flag

but i think he asked a marshal to give him one if he won the race or something

i dunno

i hope that story isnt false

[late crag]

I find it hard to believe he would get a flag from the marshal

whilst having one in the cockpit

[round swift]

How did he do

[round swift]

Did he enter the race or just practise

[south tree]

not even a race

just a test session at Ricardo Tormo

[round swift]

Oh

[south tree]

where he spun and had some good lap times

knowing he was 52 and raced in 70s and 80, not 2000s

[round swift]

https://preview.redd.it/5ocogj533k201.jpg?auto=webp&s=ac28b9dac80ce9800d30590e42c4f0f0b0003bc3

[round swift]

When he ran out of gas

I believe

[royal tendon]

1975 Austrian GP - Vittorio Brambilla [March]

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/SsB6_O_izSU

[blissful junco]

AHHHHHHH!!!! AHHHHHHH!!! I CAN'T BELIEVE IT!! -Ayrton Senna 1991 Brazilian Grand Prix, Reaction after winning the race with only 6 Gears

[tiny flower]

that scream

chilling

[hardy briar]

Ah, so i do have something in common with Barrichello!

[round swift]

🤣🤣

[past drift]

ye hockenheim 86, he still scored 1pt, but in the end it didn't matter

[frozen prism]

Hakkinen and Herbert at Lotus?

[past drift]

😌

[south tree]

Yep

‘92

[round swift]

I just realized that Alain Prost could’ve been an eight time champion if he hadn’t been a runner-up for 4 seasons!!

[past drift]

True, big ifs though

He might not have gone to McLaren had he won 83, and the rest of the theory falls short

[frozen prism]

there are also some of prosts championships that could have been theoritically others

like in 1986

[past drift]

Yeah definitely

[round swift]

😌💙

[sleek cargo]

Danny Ongais being chased by Patrick Depailer. RIP to The Flyin Hawaiian

[south tree]

it doesn't matter who drove the ferrari abandoned there, but everyone in that picture is dead, so RIP

since all ferrari drivers from 1974 to 78 (Lauda, Regazzoni, Reutemann and Villeneuve) are dead

😔

[hardy briar]

😭

[analog jasper]

i like that nft at the back

[daring crown]

Most dangerous sport ever lad

[past drift]

what is

[daring crown]

Old F1

Bathtubs with fuel and wheels

[past drift]

no, motorcycle was already more dangerous

still is, check Isle of Mann TT

[daring crown]

Yeah but they didn’t rly blow up

The Isle of Man is ridiculous tbf

Targa florio?

[round swift]

1989 Prost should not have won

[daring crown]

Why not?

[past drift]

Senner better

[oblique dock]

Let me guess. Senna was unfairly cheated out of the 1989 WDC

[round swift]

yessir

[oblique dock]

Oh boy, here we go

[round swift]

Prost took an early turn and hit him

but since the fia president was French at that time he was very helpful for Prost

[oblique dock]

Senna wouldn’t have won 1989. He had less points finishes and more DNF’s compared to Prost, despite having the most wins that year.

(Also, don’t mind my pfp. I like both Senna and Prost)

[round swift]

if he won in Suzuka he would have won the wdc

[past drift]

no

[round swift]

he used the escape roads

[past drift]

Prost won by 16 pts

[round swift]

And the fia ruled him out of the win

because he missed the chicane

and drivers in the past had used the same escape road

And got no penalty

but Senna did

[past drift]

how many points did Senna score the following race

[oblique dock]

Looks like someone watched the Senna documentary one too many times

[round swift]

classic Michael masi

[round swift]

yes

[oblique dock]

*Jean-Marie Balestre

[round swift]

yes

the French Michael masi

[past drift]

he was a literal nazi

[oblique dock]

Oh shit

you weren’t kidding. Apparently he was in the French Nazi Division

[past drift]

oh ye i'm dead serious 😂

[oblique dock]

Well then…

we surely learned something new today, didn’t we?

[past drift]

the answer was 0, so Prost would have won even if Senna wasn't disqualified from Suzuka, goodbye

[oblique dock]

In addition, Prost was consistently finishing in the top 5 throughout the entire season

Prost had 3 DNF’s compared to Senna’s 6 (alongside 2 non points finishes and his disqualification from the Japanese GP)

[round swift]

Prost should’ve won 1988

Had more points 🤷‍♂️