classic-motorsport

[round swift]

also, John Cash F1 channel

good stuff

[analog jasper]

that would be lit

damn kimi and fisi went 5 kms faster than alonso

[analog jasper]

fangio

gonzalez in the car?

[round swift]

Name all of the drivers

You can see Senna in the background

[gilded vortex]

Number one is Prost

[round swift]

From left to right, Prost is the second last

[hardy briar]

He just can’t hide in any group he is in, it’s always the nose and the hair

[weak ridge]

is that piquet? (the one with the 2 on their shirt)

[hardy briar]

No one has a number 2?

[round swift]

He’s the third person from left to right

I think his number is 2 but his arm is blocking half of it

Or his whatever

[weak ridge]

ah thanks

[weak ridge]

idk I just thought it looked like a 2

I shoulve just said what order he was in the pic like Murray did

[analog jasper]

is the guy beside i think piquet johansson?

is 9 laffitte?

[oblique dock]

I was initially split between Jacques Laffite and Derek Bell

[weak ridge]

lafitte is a good shout

[potent tendon]

Is Brundle in the picture though ?

[oblique dock]

Teddy Mayer?

[brisk quiver]

ye

[potent tendon]

2 greats

[round swift]

😕 we lost him too soon

[split spear]

Ikr

WHY

[round swift]

Bruce :D

[past drift]

what game?

[round swift]

Yup

[round swift]

It was laffite

[analog jasper]

hey i was right

[analog jasper]

is 4 tambay?

[round swift]

Number 4 is Giacomelli

[sleek cargo]

Johnny Cecotto, Stefan Johansson, Nelson Piquet, Jacques Laffite, idk, Alain Prost, idk

[sleek cargo]

fuck

[round swift]

Pretty close

[karmic trellis]

Johnny Cecotto superfast DTM driver and world motorcycle champion

Got compared to John Surtees when he started F1. We all know the reasons why

[analog jasper]

is 7 daly?

man idk who laffitte and the guy beside prost is

[round swift]

Alliot

[analog jasper]

bruh

[round swift]

Lmao

[analog jasper]

whos 12

[round swift]

Alboreto or Patrese

Not sure

[analog jasper]

damn

[hardy briar]

I challenge you guys to find:
Best mustache in F1
It can be drivers or team managers, any year

[oblique dock]

https://external-preview.redd.it/ya9n7L6Ak_fwoseCa7GrtdOudkcUQ7S9sCk_l3gsk5s.jpg?auto=webp&s=6dbdd7fa0d505f79b64c67c7b6f65319e5c2420c

You can never outstache Nigel Mansell

(Unless if you are Harald Ertl)

[hardy briar]

Off to a great start

Checo has a great mustache

[oblique dock]

Muy bien

[analog jasper]

goated

[late crag]

Dude's got more lamb chops than a butcher

[oblique dock]

Yee Haw!!

[hardy briar]

Danny is the most American f1 driver despite being Australian

I guess Australia is basically just the texas of the world

It’s massive, lots of dry big areas, cities are spread out, lots of wildlife, hot most of the time, ocean access, and the people

[round swift]

“Crasch” lmao

[trim solstice]

remenber crasch

[analog jasper]

!!!

[round swift]

XD

[past drift]

English is hard ok?

[round swift]

sure

[round swift]

Peter Brock drove on the road

[trail night]

😈

[round swift]

😈

[analog jasper]

mika

ye?

[frozen prism]

people who dont know:

people who know:

[hexed elbow]

I dont, explain please

[frozen prism]

in Australia in 1995 Mikas car slightly flew off the kerb but hit the wall at over 200g

[slender veldt]

same

[frozen prism]

Hakkinen nearly died on the track

[slender veldt]

fuck

[hexed elbow]

damn

[frozen prism]

Ayrton Senna trailing Roland Ratzenberger | Qualifying, San Marino 1994

[hexed elbow]

he spun and hit the kerb?

i think i found it on yt

[frozen prism]

he spun and slightly flew off the kerb

[oblique dock]

Prof. Sid Watkins performed a trackside traceotomy iirc

[frozen prism]

but there was a lot of momentum when he spun off the kerb

so he hit the wall at over 200g

[frozen prism]

Ratzenberger died later that Qualifying Session
Senna died the next day

[oblique dock]

Hakkinen after his accident

[frozen prism]

Underrated Season: Clay Regazzoni 1970

Despite not racing for virtually the first half of the year he scored 33 points in the 7 races he finished

and ended 3rd in the standings

I literally searched for Graham Hill in the search box and this is one of the things I find

[slender veldt]

s-scary

[slender veldt]

thaese dudes lived for less than 1 day after this photo

[round swift]

ohh..

I know there is a picture of Roland after his fatal crash without his helmet on

It’s very disturbing

[past drift]

😔

i know this is not very graphic, but can you remove this regardless?

[round swift]

That wasn’t his crash

That’s not his helmet

Must be someone else

See

Different air intake too. Idk if that was 1994 lmao

[past drift]

hmm ok

ok that's Montermini

who's still very much alive

the airbox looks to be a tribute to Roland, with the austrian flag all around it instead of just red

[frozen prism]

Fangio Driving Out Of His Mind To Catch The 15 Second Gap Between the Ferraris | 1957 Nurburgring

Context: Fangio won this race and clinched his 5th WDC (his 4th consecutive)

His performance in Germany is still regarded as one of the best drives in motorsport.

[past drift]

even he feels it's his finest race iirc

[frozen prism]

well he was racing like it was his last day so he probably did

[past drift]

think he was like a lap down after his puncture

[frozen prism]

No he didnt have a puncture

He had a 15 second lead over the Ferraris when he pitted

but his wheel nut fell under the car

the mechanics cost precious time trying to find it

[past drift]

but why did he pit

[frozen prism]

and left the pits 48seconds behind

[frozen prism]

because strategy?

"Fangio had taken notice of the tyre and fuel-level selection of the Ferrari drivers, and realized they were probably going to run the entire race without a pit stop. Fangio decided he would use softer tyres, and only a half tank of fuel. This would allow the car to take corners faster, but also require a pit stop. Fangio took his pit stop on lap 13, in first place, and 30 seconds ahead of Hawthorn and Collins."

he tried a different strategy to outsmart the Ferraris

[past drift]

alright

[frozen prism]

but unfortunate for him the pit stop was a disaster

but Fangio literally closed a 48 second lead by setting 9 record laps in the next 10 laps

[sleek cargo]

you're getting a ban for that

[oblique dock]

What? I didn’t intend on anything bad. I just wanted to show the aftermath of his shunt at Adelaide.

[sleek cargo]

Graphic Crashes:
- normal crashes = OK
- crash that involves non-visible injury = Spoilered otherwise warn
- crash that involves visible injury = Spoilered otherwise 7d mute
- crash that involves gory injury = Ban-worthy
- crash that involves death = Ban-worthy

[analog jasper]

shouldve just spoilered it

[oblique dock]

I’m sorry for not knowing the rules behind that

[limber dirge]

read #rules

[past drift]

yeah boys, be careful with crashes even here

[round swift]

Yeah okay

[sour moon]

Yeah this is where I come and hide when the rest of the server is a mess, don’t ruin it

[sour moon]

Oh so girls can? Noted ty

[past drift]

there's no girls on the internet

[sour moon]

👀

[short glade]

[sour moon]

K bye then ig

https://tenor.com/view/tigger-sad-bye-leaving-gif-12259711

[short glade]

noo

[round swift]

Look what you’ve done

Cyber bully’s

[short glade]

😭

sorry :c

[sour moon]

Ok maybe I’ll stay a little bit

[short glade]

yay

[honest plaza]

Mia after reading this

https://tenor.com/view/bye-im-out-im-gone-disappear-gif-14773411

[past drift]

it's ok she's blocked me now

[honest plaza]

lmao

[slender veldt]

who and when happned

[round swift]

1994 Barcelona GP Andrea Montermini crash

[hardy briar]

Pretty damn good looking for being slammed into a wall that hard

[trail night]

There is a photo of a crash in Watkins Glen where the driver was decapitated

Obviously ain't gonna send it here

[oblique dock]

Helmut Koinigg, 1974

[trail night]

Same thing could have happened to romian if there wasn't the halo

[round swift]

Ya lucky guy for sure

[frozen prism]

Francois Cevert, 1973

both were decapitated if I remember

[oblique dock]

Cevert wasn’t decapitated as far as I can remember

Rush had depicted that one scene at Watkins Glen as a combination between Koinigg and Cevert’s death

Dead Tyrrell driver + Decapitated Driver

[frozen prism]

oof

Random fact but James Hunt has always performed well at Watkins GLen

he took 2nd in 1973, 3rd in 1974, won in 1976 and 1977

his worst performance at Watkins Glen was 7th in 1978

[oblique dock]

The time when he drove for Wolf

[frozen prism]

yeah

Underrated Season: Alan Jones 1979

Despite retiring 7 times he still managed to take the most wins of the season with 4 and finished 3rd

And went on to be WDC in 1980

[frozen prism]

you are right

it was even worse

"His car flipped upside down onto armco which resulted in his cockpit and thus his body to be teared in half."

[oblique dock]

God damn…

[frozen prism]

The crash was so horrifying his teammate Jackie Stewart retired one race earlier than he intended

[past drift]

That'd be 1979, and he retired from the sports before the Glen

[round swift]

Excuse me???

[round swift]

Same😂

[round swift]

Agree-

[round swift]

Totally out of topic but look at that south african flag

[oblique dock]

That was south africa’s flag during their apartheid era

[round swift]

Mhm

British Vs Dutch

I wonder where ive heard that before

[lavish dagger]

TELL me this isn’t a fucking vibe?

Seriously, this is great

[unborn karma]

bro this is my new wallpaper now

[low valve]

Sheeesh senna's a ladies man

[round swift]

https://external-preview.redd.it/6-LqLeeFu5JZ7lE0pucXlEOsjr7W1odl6E1iv7QOVqU.jpg?auto=webp&s=d41484473e402140c3a834540718c7a6f80b5216

[round swift]

https://external-preview.redd.it/8oMO6XfgbaczSZRkeaOmaKAVUYGL0CMaYtjIOhQ7Hto.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=bcd81ebbfd617add377040a7c4addd50d434704d

Ron Dennis is holding the Brakes On Sign

I think they are called the lollipop man

14 world championship titles in that picture 👀

[hardy briar]

Wow

[analog jasper]

half comes from one man

[hardy briar]

I’m gonna get some hate from this i already know but the fact that Schumacher got 7 titles with pretty difficult competition shows just how incredible of a driver he was, hamilton is an amazing driver and he deserves titles but i feel like Schumacher just had so much more competition both car and driver-wise for his championships

[round swift]

Yeah

[topaz briar]

Schumacher faced Prost, Senna, Hill, Villeneuve, Häkkinen, Räikkönen, and Alonso over the course of 15 years

He even faced Coulthard

And ~~Montoya ~~

That in itself is an achievement on its own

[analog jasper]

facing coulthard is arguably his biggest achievement ever

[oblique dock]

Don’t forget him facing the GOATS: Pastor Maldonado, Taki Inoue, and Yuji Ide

[round swift]

🤣

[candid portal]

Hamilton is a really really good driver but let’s be honest

A lot of that was from Mercedes being like holy hell dominant

[hardy briar]

yes

[candid portal]

He still won title battles but Ferrari didn’t have a title fight basically in the second half of ‘17 and ‘18

But 2019 and 2020? 13/17 of the 2020 races were won by Mercedes

[round swift]

Red bull helped out with that

in 2018, 2019, 2020 and 2021

[late crag]

senses post-2001 comments

[round swift]

It’s actually 2002 now

[analog jasper]

also faced the tosser

[marsh mango]

2002 was 20 yrs ago 💀💀💀

[marsh mango]

ah ok

makes sense then

but i am just saying 2002 was 20 yrs ago

[round swift]

Well ya lmao

[marsh mango]

💀

[lavish dagger]

Hehe your welcome man

Seriously though, it’s a fucking gorgeous photo

I love the rough quality too. Gives it an aged look

Like it was taken with an older camera

Adds to the vibes

[past drift]

He had an easy stroll in 95, 2001, 2002, 2004

In 94 his biggest competition was Bernie and the FIA

[hardy briar]

fair

but Lewis had an easy stroll in 2014, 2015, 2017, 2018, 2019, and 2020

[frozen prism]

3 of schumachers championships were competitive

[past drift]

2014 not really, 2017 and 2018 only the end

[frozen prism]

Jody and Gilles messing around

[round swift]

xD

[hexed elbow]

lmao

[frozen prism]

In an alternate universe I hope this is real

if this is not allowed due to the rules and stuff ill definitely take it down i just wanted to send this as honor

[slender veldt]

everyone in the world hoped this

[frozen prism]

Very rare photo of Senna with a beard

[paper jacinth]

It's was 1989 or 1990?

[hexed elbow]

he looks completely like a different guy

[frozen prism]

1988

[frozen prism]

Senna in a Ferrari, Schumi in a McLaren

[short glade]

benetton just casually flipping in the background

[slender veldt]

lmao

[frozen prism]

given Benettons situation 1997 it isnt out of the ordinary

[past drift]

the usual

[short glade]

senna was considering going to cart after 1992

shouldve happened

he did a test with penske

[past drift]

yeah, thanks to his friend Emerson who drove for em

[slender veldt]

if only senna was alive

[past drift]

wonder what he would say of last season if he was still alive

[frozen prism]

he wouldve probably been an advisor for williams

maybe he wouldve been a fan of Max not sure

[past drift]

he died almost 30y ago, it would be hard to predict what he does

[frozen prism]

or most likely an advisor for honda

[past drift]

maybe he's the team boss of Senna F1 Team

[frozen prism]

he was really close to honda

[past drift]

he was

[frozen prism]

and then would probably be an advisor for Red Bull or ALpha Tauri

[short glade]

oi senna dont crash my car ok lol

[frozen prism]

one things for sure, if he was alive he could've guided Bruno to be a better driver

[short glade]

bruno was forced to quit racing after senna died

poor guy

[frozen prism]

Bruno made it into F1 despite starting motorsports at 18

so imagine how much better he would've been

[past drift]

ye certainly

Damon also didn't do motorsports until late

[frozen prism]

no he just did motorcycles

and then switched to single seater cars

his dad was the one who didnt do motorsports until really later

he made it to a Lotus seat by talking his way into it as a mechanic

and he was 29

[past drift]

Damon Hill started car racing aged 23

[frozen prism]

still he was already a good driver in general

Surtees did the switch to F1

[slender veldt]

verstappen came in f1 at 17

[frozen prism]

and Valentino Rossi was still pretty quick in an F1 car

[past drift]

Rossi did extensive karting before Motorcycles iirc

[frozen prism]

ig

but before driving Graham Hill was a rower

his helmet is literally a nod to his old rowing club

which was also the helmet design Damon used

[past drift]

yes

but at the time Graham started racing, it wasn't really professional and focused on F1 as the end all be all

[hexed elbow]

casually flipping 😂

[oblique dock]

Canada 1998 if I’m not mistaken

[frozen prism]

Jim Clark taking flight

[short glade]

nyoom

[round swift]

nicee

[honest plaza]

Man F1 cars have evolved

[signal flint]

Yea

[honest plaza]

Went from cylinders to boxes to the ones we have today

[past drift]

i really like the 312T4

it's so strange looking

many would say ugly

[signal flint]

Yes

The m23 tho is good looking

[past drift]

yeah

it looks like a normal car of the time

Ferrari kept their weird spoon front wing for a long time

and making it longk for the venturi tunnels to work somewhat makes it weird imo

[signal flint]

The 312t looked weird with it ngl

[meager pewter]

isn't the same for Mark Blundell?

[round swift]

Mark Brundle

I always get those two confused

[oblique dock]

I remember David Hobbs and Bob Varsha joking about how Japanese commentators would prounounce Brundle and Blundell the exact same way

I don’t remember which video I found them talking about it, though.

[round swift]

Haha 😂

[gleaming needle]

yuck

[hardy briar]

You like ugly f1 cars?

[past drift]

Ligier js5 (1976)
Ensign N179 (1979)
Brabham BT34 (1971)

[past drift]

And this right here is the 1971 March 711

[analog jasper]

Laffite in the Ligier

Daly in the Ensign?

Hill in the Brabham

[past drift]

Ye that's Derek Daly

[gleaming needle]

i think this is still the worse

so beautiful

[hardy briar]

Yep

[gleaming needle]

more ugly cars?

[hardy briar]

Not rn

Need to go to sleep

[sleek cargo]

Actually I like the Ensign car

[fossil sluice]

Ayrton Senna

:(

[frozen prism]

how is that ugly

it looks mid at best maybe decent but not ugly

[past drift]

the March wasn't pretty, but it was efficient

Ronnie Peterson finished 2nd in the standings with that car

[hardy briar]

The ensign was actually a normal car without that ugly thing on the front

[past drift]

they tried this weird cooling solution

it was even worse

so they reverted to that

[hardy briar]

Yeah

[hardy briar]

https://youtu.be/MgkKIWiA35I found something you guys might like

[hardy briar]

Go to 40:36 🤩

[past drift]

nice strat

[round swift]

1990 was better

Go alesi!!!

[hardy briar]

@round swift https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL1-v_Bpmio8hp_RBi_WY_EBvbtbYJxV0q

[analog jasper]

alesi

senna

berger ig

and a ferrari

nvm its a scuderia italia i think

.

[past drift]

ye

de cesaris i think

in the dallara

[ionic tiger]

god airboxes were a mistake

at least the old ones were

[frozen prism]

no those were the ridiculous looking airboxes

the ones ferrari and lotus had looked good

same case for tyrrell and mclaren

[ionic tiger]

i dont think any look good ngl

look at this goofy ass thing

[slender veldt]

tall boi

[ionic tiger]

Lauda’s 1974 car

[past drift]

they look odd now, that's for sure

but almost everyone in 74 and 75 had them, until they were forbidden in 76 for the 3rd or 4th race

and for once, i think it was mostly because they were quite disgracious

[ionic tiger]

yeah for 2 seasons every team had some kind of goofy airbox

[woven zinc]

as goofy as it looks, I love it

[hardy briar]

Same

[meager pewter]

Well y'know why right?

[ionic tiger]

well they worked

big cooling

[meager pewter]

Well... That was just all going into the enyin throttles so

But idk does this still look goofy?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/8c/Emerson_Fittipaldi_McLaren_M23_1974_Britain.jpg

[oblique dock]

That version of the M23 is good

Here’s one in the Yardley colors

[round swift]

more like iconic

[ionic tiger]

yes that looks goofy

it looks like a rocket pod

prectical

but goofy

meanwhile

good looking intake

that being said, last year Alpine had a bit of a fat intake

[craggy ember]

I like the triangle design

[idle gale]

When cars had high rear spoilers

[late crag]

"To decrease the effects of the dirty air coming off the car"

Essentially the ape brains of 60s engineers said "oh, clean air gives more downforce"

[frozen prism]

they just started fiddling with aerodynamics at the start of ‘68

but Lotus had it pretty good in 1969

[analog jasper]

tyrrell

bellof?

1984

disqualified

[round swift]

Lol

[frozen prism]

Graham Hill in his Shadow DN1 | 1974 Race of Champions

Niki Lauda in his Ferrari 312B3-74 | 1974 Race of Champions

[past drift]

the early B3-74 looks ass with its thin airbox and the rollhoop not integrated into it

[frozen prism]

Lauda & Hunt, 1976 and 1977

[meager pewter]

... It does tho

[past drift]

this is because of these wings that the most versatile rule exists in the ruleset, no moveable aerodynamic device

[meager pewter]

They were alot of the time suspension mounted too, which is usually beneficial to tyre load

[past drift]

yes, that's the trick

and it was erm, fragile

[meager pewter]

Almost like they're F1 cars

[past drift]

true, if the car holds in one piece after the finish line, it's too heavy

[frozen prism]

Jo Bonnier in his Porsche

[frozen prism]

Ronnie Peterson unfazed.

[frozen prism]

Lorenzo Bandini starting his last and final race | 1967 Monaco GP

[hardy briar]

Quite tragic, his wife commute suicide in 1987, 9 years after his death. Ronnie Peterson is probably the driver who actually deserved to win the WDC the most out of everyone.

[hardy briar]

Prost doesn’t even look stressed/focus, just like he’s on his way to work and is stuck in traffic or something

[past drift]

yeah just driving the kids to school yano

[hardy briar]

[hardy briar]

https://carandvintage.com/vintage-formula-1-wives-girls-70s/ some pretty lucky dudes!

[low valve]

Lmaooo

[frozen prism]

yeah but I doubt Ronnie could’ve won a wdc

considering if he stayed with lotus anyway

but if he managed to make a move to mclaren then probably

[ionic tiger]

RIP Bandini, absolutely horrific that accident

as cool as that era of F1 was I'm glad that safety has taken precedent over the years

[frozen prism]

yeah poor guy suffered

he died of his injuries a few days later in hospital

[ionic tiger]

yeah

horrible burns all over the body, it makes me wonder why they even wore anything if it would barely protect them. Crazy time

anyway

on a happy topic

2008 McLaren is the coolest looking car ever made

[round swift]

That would go in #f1-hq-photos-and-videos

Not considered a classic in this channel

But definitely looks cool

[ionic tiger]

oh wait

i read the top thing as 2020 lol

sorry bout that

[dull grove]

lol

[oblique dock]

Eh…

[dapper siren]

Wrong, this one is

[ionic tiger]

LOL

fat ass airbox

however, you are also incorrect

this is

[dapper siren]

6 tyres

[ionic tiger]

(even if it was never used) it is the greatest

did people in the 70s have any sense of style

[dapper siren]

clearly no

[ionic tiger]

lol

[frozen prism]

looks beautiful

quite overlooked car because of its horrible performance but

[ionic tiger]

i wonder if John Player Special exists still

oh its a ciggy company

[oblique dock]

One of the most beautiful F1 cars imo

Shame it never won a championship

[ionic tiger]

i like that livery

[oblique dock]

The 1983 Renault is one of the best, apart from the 2005 and 2006 Renaults

[frozen prism]

Damon Hill driving his dad's GH1

[frozen prism]

renault was a ticking time bomb

either you finish the race before the time runs out or you face the consequences

[ionic tiger]

hes so young in that

[oblique dock]

All this time, I thought the RE40 was quite reliable. Should have read about it more. Also, I guess that’s why Ferrari won the 1983 WCC

It was said that the RE40 encountered turbo failures here and there

[analog jasper]

crazy is the new sexy amirite

[round swift]

It encountered about 4 turbo issues, and 4 other engine issues, and one driver mistake.

The RE50 was way more awful

[oblique dock]

And that driver error came from Prost at Zandvoort when he hit Piquet

[round swift]

Yup

[oblique dock]

Followed by the RE60

At least the RE50 looks nice

[round swift]

The RE60 wasn’t that bad

Only raced at 8 Grand Prix’s

Transmission and clutch issues that’s all

[oblique dock]

Including the race at the Nurburgring where 3 cars were entered.

[round swift]

Yeah that was the last time the re60 was entered I believe

[frozen prism]

Renault pretty much fell off after Prost and Arnoux left

but as an engine supplier they were god

[oblique dock]

Yup

[round swift]

Yeah the Renault in the 1992 Williams

Beautiful

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/ideOEsshob0

C’est Magnifique

[round swift]

Is that Prost

[frozen prism]

sure looks like him

[round swift]

Yeah

It’s his helmet so it is

It had the 1993 Williams engine inside of it!!?

[frozen prism]

A stunned Didier Pironi picks up Gilles Villeneuve's helmet and brings it back to the pits shortly after Villeneuve fatally crashes | 1982 Belgium

Ronnie Peterson | The Super Swede 1944 - 1978

Ronnie would have turned 78 next week

[past drift]

Yes sir

[frozen prism]

Fun Fact: Ayrton Senna never finished outside of the Top 5 in the standings except for his rookie year

[past drift]

Check where he qualified now

[round swift]

Man that 1992 Mclaren was god awful

His 1993 was a lot better

[past drift]

It was almost worse than the Benetton

So yeah

[frozen prism]

yeah it was pretty mobile but no match for the technologically advanced williams

williams literally scored twice as many points as mclaren did in 93

[round swift]

Senna still dominated

[past drift]

They weren't helped by Michael Andretti

[frozen prism]

yeah

but senna led the championship after monaco

[round swift]

Mika out qualified senna in his first GP

[frozen prism]

then he had a bad stretch of 8 races

[frozen prism]

and told senna he needed more balls

only the flying finn

[round swift]

Lol

[past drift]

And Senna didn't dominate anything in 93, except a few races here and there

[round swift]

Well he won more races than in 92

And he finished runner up

Against the powerful Williams

1993 was a success for him

1992 was disappointment for him

5 wins + 2 podiums and a pole position

Not bad

[past drift]

Agreed

93 is his best season I'd say

But he didn't dominate, he didn't even win the title

[frozen prism]

he should've been in the best condition of his career in 94 and 95

[round swift]

Well obviously he wouldn’t of won against Williams, they were far more advanced

And with Alain Prost, made it very difficult

I’m saying his 1993 season was better then his 1992 season.

He did lead the championship though in 1993 after Monaco I believe

[frozen prism]

yeah then

[round swift]

He retired 3 times from the 8, and got fourth about three times

[karmic trellis]

I absolutely adore this car. It helps that it was driven by an absolute madman

[idle gale]

The Split BAR

Ayrton's first test drive

[low valve]

That looks clapped

[round swift]

1983 Donington Park

FW08C

[sleek cargo]

I'm now reading his biography from Gerald Donaldson and I can say that it's really great man

he sold his house while he had wife and kids

to buy a Formula Atlantic car

[frozen prism]

Gilles literally drove every day like his last

[karmic trellis]

Thats 126CK

[frozen prism]

https://tenor.com/view/formula1-f1-gillesvilleneuve-f1ferrari-gif-9475841

[karmic trellis]

Gilles basically drove however he felt at the moment. He liked to have fun on the track, do an occasional powerslide. Drove completely by his feel. Its unfortunately not the way to win alot in F1. You need to be robotic and think about everything. F1 was his playground and its the reason why I appreciate him.

[past drift]

At the time you didn't need to do that

[round swift]

i have a question

[coral apex]

Ya?

Maybe i can answear

[round swift]

to what year does the classic period span?

[coral apex]

Oof rather i cant answear that. Im sorry.

[round swift]

its alright

im new to this server and just wondering about stuff

[round swift]

Anything before 2002

oki thank you

[short glade]

1950-2002

[past drift]

yes no pre war race cars

[short glade]

#pitstop

[past drift]

[idle gale]

Renault v Toleman. Keep in mind that Toleman later became the modern Renault works team, which is now Alpine

[short glade]

i thought alfa romeo turned into the renault team that is now alpine

[wanton lichen]

Nah Alfa Romeo used to be salba pretty sure

[oblique dock]

Don’t you mean Sauber?

[short glade]

the old ass 80s team not the current team

[low valve]

Longggg car

[wanton lichen]

Ooh right

[wanton lichen]

I can’t spell don’t mind me

[idle gale]

When McLaren had a third spoiler on the airbox frame

[round swift]

1996 McLaren

Right?

Or maybe 95

[round swift]

idk why but it feels weird seeing a Marlboro McLaren livery on a high nosed f1 car

[round swift]

Yeah

for me too

[mystic anchor]

Belgian gp livery F399

[forest socket]

this picture is 1996 'cause they have the Schumacher's helmet

[round swift]

DC borrowed one of Schumi's helmets during the 96 Monaco GP cuz his helmet fogged up

[past drift]

"before 2002"

• proceeds to post a gazilion images from 2002

[short glade]

lol

[frozen prism]

Ayrton Senna, just having seen the crash of Roland Ratzenbergher | 1994 San Marino Grand Prix

[slender veldt]

[left crow]

My cousin hates old f1 cara

cars*

[sour moon]

how come?

[left crow]

idk he thinks they are slow

[oblique dock]

[agile surge]

old f1 cars were marvels of their time

[sour moon]

and that sound 🤤

[agile surge]

heck some of them are even marvels by today’s time

the active suspension comes to mind immediately

[past drift]

Compared to now, they are

But speed isn't all that's important

[sour moon]

see that's where I need to learn more, I have no idea what you're talking about

[agile surge]

the Williams FW15C had active suspension

basically, the suspension could adapt to the track making it very quick around corners

in addition to a number of other technological innovations

[limber dirge]

that was an amazing one

[agile surge]

such as push-to-pass, anti-lock brakes, traction control, CVT gearbox

it is probably the most sophisticated f1 car of all time

[past drift]

It didn't have the CVT, but it could have had it if the FIA didn't stop them

[steel lance]

What's CVT

[agile surge]

which one had CVT

[past drift]

Continuously variable transmission

[agile surge]

or am I just misremembering

[steel lance]

14B?

[past drift]

They experimented the CVT

But didn't race with it

[agile surge]

oh they didn’t actually use it ok

[steel lance]

Ah

[past drift]

Basically allows you to be at the best rpm range always

Aka peak power

[agile surge]

speeeeeeeeeeed

[past drift]

You have these on 50cc scooters

[steel lance]

Ooh sounds interesting

[agile surge]

tfw when a 50cc scooter has a more advanced gearbox than an f1 car /s

if you’re replying to me with an essay please turn the ping off

[past drift]

The problem is you have big losses of energy

[past drift]

Having him as 2nd driver not only hinders Alex’s progress ,i mean if perez does flop it has to be the worst decision in f1 in a while, but if he is at max’s pace which i doubt then it may be a ricciardo max situation which does not end up being beneficial. Red bull are still not near to fighting with constructors even with 2 max verstappens they wouldn't be able to beat Mercedes so to bring Perez in to improve from 2nd in constructors to 2nd in constructors is pointless. Even if Perez does thrive it isnt to beneficial as they are not fighting for anything and so they may as well try to improve a younger driver and prepare for 2022 wether that's in gastly or tsunoda or alex but an older driver I see as pointless.
Not only this but F1 fans are so reactive when perez doesn't do well everyone will slate him and want hulkenberg and no one will realise it's clearly the red bull.
I do also think that it’s unlucky and of course it's a sport but the fact that gasly kept his seat after alex was forced into an impossible job and that mazepin keeps his shows where the sport is going. I still think tsunoda should've been given one more year to stop the mistakes he makes and have alex in a car other than the red bull with gasly because let's be honest then we would have really known wether alex was up to it instead of the impossible red bull.

Regardless if Perez does adapt quickly then its an ok move but if he doesn't then instantly it hinders the whole situation so we will see but i honestly think he won't and it'll leave red bull in a bad situation with their 2nd driver etc.

[sour moon]

[hardy briar]

[chrome basin]

hey guys, i found this in a textbook. what ferrari model is this? it might be from the mid-late 70s because of how it looks, but i might be wrong

[frozen prism]

either the Ferrari 312T4 or T5

but considering gilles has #12 its probably the 312T4

1979

[past drift]

T4

[frozen prism]

yeah i figured since the numbers

gilles would have been #2 if it was the T5

[past drift]

Yup

Also the front wing was narrower for some reasons

[frozen prism]

yeah never mattered the engine was so horrible that even the reigning champion didnt qualify in canada and retired from f1 for good

[past drift]

I don't think the engine was horrible, even if it was the problem

It was still the second most powerful and stupidly reliable

[frozen prism]

yeah the engine was powerful but it didnt suit the t5's bodywork and aero

a big engine that doesnt suit an already heavy chassis is a spell for disaster

[round swift]

the 93 were testing with CVT gearbox but got banned pretty early.

There is a video of it on YouTube somewhere

[short glade]

and williams never found a belt to handle 700+ hp all the time

so it just snapped everytime after 5 minutes

[round swift]

Also true

[past drift]

Idk if there were aero changes in the rega between 79 and 80

[short glade]

rumored to be seconds faster than the same car with a normal gearbox

[tropic stump]

https://youtu.be/cgjOgAKXZ6E

F1 drivers in the 50s were built different

did farina even win anymore races after his 1950 title?

[round swift]

Idk

[hardy briar]

https://tenor.com/view/alliot-piquet-arnoux-johansson-f1-gif-9906785

The most powerful family sedan

[oblique dock]

Jack Le Feet

[tropic stump]

some of the fastest drivers of the 80s and philippe alliot

[void scarab]

Ah yeas Dwight Villeneuve

[round swift]

It was about two seconds faster at silverstone with David Coulthard as the driver I believe

I think he was the test driver unless it was Alain

“Team test driver David Coulthard drove the car on a wet July day at Pembrey in Wales.”

[hardy briar]

I mean it makes sense

[frozen prism]

yeah he was with ferrari a couple years

then retired in 1956

[frozen prism]

El Maestro at his home Grand Prix | 1957 Argentinian GP

[trim solstice]

[idle gale]

The Ground Effect Front Wingless cars

[hardy briar]

So funny

[past drift]

Villeneuve was leading until he did what he did best: get on the grass and crash himself out like an idiot

[analog jasper]

its useless to be fast, if you crash every single race

[past drift]

He won like 6 races or so, so he knew how to finish races

[frozen prism]

he did redeem himself in the uswest grand prix but he was disqualified

and then after san marino he held a grudge against pironi

[past drift]

Yep

So turbo issue, crashed himself out, dsq, 2nd but grudge, and death.
That's the sad results of Gilles' last season, where he clearly had the car and team position to win

In 1979 he just had the car

[frozen prism]

yeah but he was the 2nd driver even though he was definitely on par with Scheckter

[analog jasper]

great

[frozen prism]

he was definitely the Senna prototype

knew the cars limits and always went beyond them

but Gilles did more mistakes than Senna

[past drift]

You can't go beyond the limits of a car

[frozen prism]

1994 Brazillian Grand Prix

[potent tendon]

Le Professeur

[thorny marlin]

https://fr.motorsport.com/f1/news/spice-girls-hacking-histoire-presentations/7831562/

Just look at the pictures 🤩

[oblique dock]

Oui Oui

[chrome basin]

ive always like the look of the older mclarens/ferraris

they're pretty much iconic

[weary nacelle]

scuderia coloni was the best team arguably

[potent tendon]

since we're speaking of Scuderias

[low valve]

Tell me this isnt amazing

[oblique dock]

It’s Gilles Villeneuve doing his thing. Why wouldn’t it be?

[feral grail]

🤠wow much nice

[round swift]

Gilles makes me proud to be a Canadian

Same with Sidney Crosby lol

[oblique dock]

What about Celine Dion

[round swift]

She was good in Titanic

That’s about it haha

[sour moon]

NEEEEEAAAAARRRRRR

FAAAAARRRRR

WHEREEEEEVEEERRRR YOOOUUUUU AAAARRRREEEEEE 🎶

That’s it for me bye 👋

[oblique dock]

|| My Heart Will Go On | Covered by Jacques Villeneuve ||

[sour moon]

With Charles Leclerc playing the piano

[oblique dock]

And Pascal Wehrlein on drums

[sour moon]

https://tenor.com/view/listening-to-music-jerry-cute-music-gif-8009185

Hollywood needs us, clearly

[oblique dock]

The Grammy’s need F1, considering the lineup we have right now.

[desert estuary]

wait I'm offtopic

[oblique dock]

Cool pfp

[sour moon]

So are we 💀

Although arguably titanic is a classic after all

[vague tusk]

.warn pogchup offtopic in #classic-motorsport

[frozen prism]

ah yes the Drift King of F1

him and Alonso are just oversteer kinda dudes

[sour moon]

Me? You try to warn ME? 💪 🤜 💥 😡

[vague tusk]

please stay on topic mia

[frozen prism]

imagine if there is an all-star race in F1

how would that work ouit

*out

[oblique dock]

Well, there was a series for that… but it was short lived

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grand_Prix_Masters

[frozen prism]

ah

[sour moon]

Well considering how in shape you have to be

And especially what specific muscles you gotta develop such as the neck which you don’t find in many other series save Indy…

I’m not sure how an actual race would work out?

[oblique dock]

I guess the best option for seeing F1 drivers competing against each other in an all star race would be the Race of Champions… which ended not too long ago (or sim racing)

[sour moon]

Wait when you say all stars you still mean within F1

[mystic anchor]

Jan Lammers racing for Theodore Racing, 1982 The OG #33

[round swift]

Nigel Mansell dominated in that

I think he had four wins for 6 or 7 races

Probably way off

[oblique dock]

I guess

[frozen prism]

ah Scheckter's absolutely dismal 1980 season

still on record the worst defending season for a reigning champion

only 2 points

and didn't even qualify in Canada

[oblique dock]

Poor Jody.

[frozen prism]

yeah he retired after 1980

[oblique dock]

And then came Pironi for the next two years.

[frozen prism]

then that damned guy overtook Gilles for the win in San Marino

[oblique dock]

we all know what happened next after Gilles never vowed to speak to Pironi ever again.

[frozen prism]

yeah unfortunately his pride ultimately came to kill him

Didier is holding Gilles' helmet from the crash in '82 Belgium

Gilles' helmet fell off his head and ultimately killed him

[sour moon]

wdym the helmet killed him?

[frozen prism]

well Gilles died of severe neck and brain-stem injuries

just my opinion but if his helmet never fell off maybe he doesnt die?

but his inadequate seatbelts also caused it

[sour moon]

I’m no expert but i don’t see how the helmet would’ve prevented a neck fracture tbh so seems to me like it would’ve happened the same way had it stayed on

[meager pewter]

Well no... His seat assembly just came away with him still in it while his car split, the seat wouldn't be stuck to him if seatbelts weren't thers

[frozen prism]

welp all we can do is keep imagining

but another tragic death was Jochen Rindt

Rindt had a habit of not doing all his belt so he could escape if there was a fire to avoid dying

but unfortunately that was the thing that killed him

[mystic anchor]

I'm no expert but ig he should've practised unbelting himself instead of the other option

[frozen prism]

you saw how difficult it is to undo your belts

1976 Germany

and in Jochen's era which was the late 60s people like Jo Schlesser, Lorenzo Bandini, and some others died in a fiery crash

[mystic anchor]

failed to unbelt themselves due to intricate seatbelt systems?

[frozen prism]

sure and also his personal reasoning

he wanted to escape quickly if he got into a crash

[sour moon]

He didn’t consider the other options

[frozen prism]

yeah but his crash was also caused by inadequate brakes

and the crash barrier he crashed into wasn't properly installed

So ultimately Rindt slid under his belts and his throat got caught and died of severe throat injuries

[mystic anchor]

yeah they only had a small consideration to improve the barriers back then

[north sand]

Congrats @mystic anchor, you're now on lap 5

[frozen prism]

this was the car he was running

the rare Lotus 72 without wings

Emerson actually ran this particular car a few days before to test it and crashed

but the madness of Colin Chapman perseveres

[mystic anchor]

yeah he was a really dedicated man

at almost everything he does

[frozen prism]

yeah but at the cost of his drivers

even his best and beloved drivers like Jim Clark, Graham Hill, Rindt, Emerson, they all wanted Chapman to somewhat improve the safety standards on the car

[mystic anchor]

Chapman wanted to pursue performance more

[marsh tide]

aston martin used to be ok i guess

[mystic anchor]

just like any other engineer nowadays

[frozen prism]

yeah but Chapman gave no shit about safety

[sour moon]

I mean we like to think they have more consideration for safety now but honestly, do they, really?

[frozen prism]

that was the only thing i despised about him

[sour moon]

An accident like Bianchi’s should never have happened

[oblique dock]

Really? Huh.

[mystic anchor]

I do think yes

[sour moon]

Or Hubert for that matter and then how long did it take them to change spa

[mystic anchor]

That was silly

[frozen prism]

well the Lotuses were notorious for being pretty dangerous to drive

[mystic anchor]

silly mistake from the trackside people

[frozen prism]

they were bullet fast

[sour moon]

Loads of major changes were only brought in after deadly accidents happened that could’ve been easily prevented

[mystic anchor]

definately

[frozen prism]

yeah sadly it takes a major crash to bring in major changes

[oblique dock]

So the lesson here is basically: Success comes at a cost.

[sour moon]

Spa should have been changed way before what happened with Anthoine

[frozen prism]

yeah

success comes at a cost

[sour moon]

And then we had Jeddah this year, like

[frozen prism]

but pay that cost too much and you risk your reputation

[sour moon]

I find it outrageous tbh

[mystic anchor]

agreed

[frozen prism]

i mean Jeddah was the fast daring circuit I've wanted in F1 again for a few years

but it just wont work out with how stupidly huge the cars are nowadays

[oblique dock]

To me, Jeddah was already a no show before the inaugural race was run, and it proved its worth. A silly incident with silly decision making from the stewards

[mystic anchor]

and how narrow the track is

[mystic anchor]

a bad combination

[frozen prism]

imo they need to make the cars smaller

like maybe around the size the early 2000s cars were

[oblique dock]

FIA: We could just go out of their way and notify both teams, but…. Eh, everything’ll buff out.

[frozen prism]

yeah and as much as an asshole Balestre was but atleast the FIA at his time was intimidating

for the most part the FIA now is a joke

[sour moon]

Jeddah was disgraceful on so many levels

[oblique dock]

The only other F1 street circuit that is fast, flowing, and by far MUCH MUCH BETTER than Jeddah, is Adelaide.

That and Canada

[mystic anchor]

both are still wide enough for todays f1 cars

just barely

[wheat violet]

and then there is baku - only 90 deg, other than old town but ye

[oblique dock]

Can’t forget about Baku

[wheat violet]

sg is also 90 but then u can get speed

[mystic anchor]

sg looks beautiful too

[oblique dock]

Yeah

[wheat violet]

sg design is cool one of the noicest street circuits i've seen

[mystic anchor]

the atmosphere there is humid too, increasing unpredictability

[oblique dock]

Well, it is in south east Asia after all

[wheat violet]

coastal + tropical so ye

[mystic anchor]

yeah same as the surrounding countries, Indo, Malay, etc

[mystic anchor]

yeah

[wheat violet]

sepang is noice ye

[frozen prism]

i wish they could go back to brands hatch

[mystic anchor]

nah too fast for f1 that circuit

too narrow too ig

[mystic anchor]

love the flow of it

[mystic anchor]

I'd love to see that though, just need a major renovation of the circuit first

[oblique dock]

Man… today’s F1 at Sepang would probably be a treat.

[mystic anchor]

yes

[oblique dock]

This year marks the 5th anniversary since F1 last raced in Sepang. And that was also during the time when sharkfins and T wings were last used, too.

[mystic anchor]

and also marks the 5th anniversary since F1 last been fully open cockpit

[oblique dock]

Yeah

Time flies.

[mystic anchor]

very fast

doesn't feel like 2017 is half a decade ago

[frozen prism]

just feels like yesterday i was introduced to f1

[mystic anchor]

me too

[round swift]

me three

[round swift]

im here

[idle gale]

Jack and Bruce

[mystic anchor]

Noice

[mystic anchor]

A kiwi and an aussie

[past drift]

First podium for Bruce McLaren aged just 21y 10m 19d on that 1959 British GP

It was stupidly young then

[round swift]

wow

for back then that's hella impressive

[past drift]

Bruce also kept the record for youngest race winner for 43y 8m 12d, being beaten by Fernando at Hungary 2003
(Bar Indianapolis winners)

[undone bramble]

When you just push your car over the finish;

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GACcmWew3PI

[wheat violet]

damn that's faster than w11

[frozen prism]

ah yes teammates at Cooper and 2 guys who started successful teams of their own

Jack and Bruce were also in a pretty close title battle in either 59 or 60

[frozen prism]

the anti-climactic part was that he didn't need to finish the race anyway since it was never gonna be counted since it was a best of 4 that counted to the championship

[undone bramble]

It's still funny to see tho

[frozen prism]

the context was he thought he would lose the championship if he didnt finish

but the race results were never gonna be counted for him anyway and his title contender didnt finish high enough to take the title from him

[past drift]

https://youtu.be/tGHZDN-qHfM in hindsight this is also useless, but you never have hindsight when you need ot

Also, there was money on the line for Brabham

And if you can finish the race provided you push your car.. why not doing it

[frozen prism]

Bruce McLaren | 1962 Dutch Grand Prix

[frozen prism]

Emo and Jackie making fun of Ronnie's inability to grow killer sideburns

[hardy briar]

Wow

[hardy briar]

[hardy briar]

@desert estuary what is the car in your profile picture?

[desert estuary]

Renault F1 Turbo

[oblique dock]

I think it’s the Renault RS10

[desert estuary]

1979 Renault

[short glade]

first ever turbo boi

[desert estuary]

JABOUILLE

[oblique dock]

The first turbocharged car to win a race

https://youtu.be/TIZSCBX2C68

[round swift]

Nice

[hardy briar]

Very epic, thanks

And ground effect!?

[signal flint]

I never knew that Comas retired after Senna died

[past drift]

It was his last season

[mystic anchor]

Retired only in F1, continued to race at le mans for a few more times

[mystic anchor]

1992 ig

[oblique dock]

And then became a 2 time champion in the JGTC driving for Nismo

[mystic anchor]

Totally dont know abt that one

[oblique dock]

He won in 1998 and 1999 driving the Pennzoil Skyline GTR’s

[mystic anchor]

I know that car from gran turismo

[mystic anchor]

pretty iconic car

[oblique dock]

Apart from the Tom’s Castrol Supra of course

[mystic anchor]

that's the more iconic one

I must say

and the JGTC NSXs

[oblique dock]

The ARTA NSX is my favorite

[mystic anchor]

the orange red one?

I think I remember that one

my fav was the takata one

mainly for the green

[frozen prism]

Senna's crashed car being towed off | 1994 San Marino

[unkempt slate]

😢

[mighty tendon]

seeing nobody in that seat

[sour moon]

why would you want to see someone in it

[mighty tendon]

it feels like nobody in a crashed car is a sign theyre gone

even though

its being towed

and nobody needs to be in there

[sour moon]

yeah I mean he is gone since it's Senna's crash in San Marino, so...

and if he was in the seat indeed then it'd be a ban

[cobalt patrol]

.carlaunch

[analog jasper]

bruh moment

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/f6zEnZuNO5Q

[round swift]

:O

[short glade]

owo

[oblique dock]

That channel is loaded with old F1 footage and even Group C footage

[oblique dock]

( headphones are recommended )

[round swift]

Beautiful 😍

[potent tendon]

https://twitter.com/freemanlowell01/status/1492217612146823173?s=21

Freeman (@FreemanLowell01)

https://t.co/XbQDTHSzkn

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[pastel ginkgo]

god damn

[idle gale]

Those brakes are really red

[round swift]

Carbon brakes man

[analog jasper]

they were fire

[round swift]

WOAH-

the lighting I- omg
😭

[potent crag]

Woah i only realised this was a game when i zoomed in

[mystic anchor]

the lighting is not so good now is it