classic-motorsport

[tough sorrel]

His tear ducts were damaged after the Nurburgring accident

And water was just getting in his eyes at Fuji cause he could barely blink

[fathom oxide]

Which was made worse by all the rain. Maybe if the weather was better, he might have been able to run the whole race without such problems.

[tough sorrel]

Jim Clark chasing down Dan Gurney, 1964.

[tough sorrel]

If only man...

[signal flint]

Yea

That would be amazing tbh

If alternate realitys exist(not saying they do) then hes probably alive in one

[hardy yacht]

what team is that?

[analog jasper]

footwork

morbidelli

1995

[hardy yacht]

oh ok

[tough sorrel]

Jochen Rindt (Left) Jackie Stewart (Middle) and Jim Clark (Right) talking just before the 1967 German Grand Prix.

[tough sorrel]

Drivers passing through Sainte Devote, 1929 Monaco Grand Prix.

[carmine kindle]

No heroics into Saint Devote

Also race is running in reverse ?

[torn gulch]

No, it's normal

Just no barriers

[round swift]

no they're going uphills

[tough sorrel]

nope

[potent mason]

The Cars look like they are coming downhill because we are used to seeing the drivers have a fair bit of chassis between the start of the "nose" and the spot where the driver's heads pop up. This seems to be before that.

Might also just be poor camera quality, really.

[molten patio]

the winfield liveries are underrated imo

[graceful crystal]

fact

[molten patio]

people go "omg red williams ewwwwww!!!!!!" but it looks good

plus do the other williams liveries have woody woodpecker on them

thought not

[round swift]

ye i like the red williams

[round swift]

hold up jackie wasn't born with sideburns?

[round swift]

2 chads battling eachother

also today I learned that gurney came from a very well educated family

His father, John R. "Jack" Gurney, was a graduate of Harvard Business School with a master's degree. Dan's three uncles were each MIT engineers. His grandfather was F.W. Gurney who was responsible for the invention of the Gurney Ball Bearing

[woven zinc]

agreed tbh

[slow grail]

day 40 of posting f1 world champions
1989 - alain prost

[oblique dock]

Yay Prost

[late crag]

Come back Senna

[paper jacinth]

One of my favorite drivers in F1, i like him and Senna in same level! 🤩🙌

[white ether]

1998 Winfield livery?
1999 Winfield livery? 🤢

[round swift]

1997 was still Rothmans 🙂

[white ether]

You know why Winfield was shitted on? It's because it didn't fitted the brand image of Williams....

But the 1998 livery was fine because they didn't fucked up the livery's template

[spark cove]

.truth

[north sand]

Prost > Senna

[white ether]

The 1999 livery on the other hand.... the blue on the rear... the obnoxious white going from the nose through the engine case...

Yeah, it's just horrible

[woven zinc]

imo the 1999 one looks nicer than the 1998 one

not that the 1998 one is bad, it's just that the 1999 one looks livelier in a way

[graceful crystal]

I love the 99 one its a fantastic set of colours

I made the livery on a early 70s car once and it worked really well, its a very versatile design despite its complexity

[low valve]

Subjective

[low valve]

Rothmans>>>>>>

[tough sorrel]

and because it was just right after their championship 1997 season

[meager pewter]

The best Veltins font fot the car tho was used in France

[round swift]

classy font, although idk what this brand is

[meager pewter]

Veltins is a drinks company

[analog jasper]

prost is better, senna aint even prost level

smh prost 7 time championship

[low valve]

Let them have their own opinion twat

[low valve]

4 actually

[analog jasper]

im joking

bruh

[analog jasper]

ik hes a 4 time, tho we have said he could've won 7

you dont need to call me twat kek

[tough sorrel]

Prost dominated with his extensive experience

Senna dominated with his insane pace and skill

[brisk quiver]

I've been saving lots of pics of racing of old and new recently, and I need help recognizing some of them: is this Alex Zanardi?

[tough sorrel]

Yeah

[brisk quiver]

Thanks.

Done some research, I'm starting to consider this guy a legend

[tough sorrel]

Chris Amon literally had the most badass transformation

[brisk quiver]

Chris and the cooler Chris

[tough sorrel]

Went from “I’ll bring her home at 7:30” to “She calls me daddy now”

[white ether]

Amon is one of the most underrated drivers in F1 imo... but his popularity is probably more linked to his Endurance racing career

[icy veldt]

if u havent... give a listen to his episode on beyond the grid

it was recorded about 3 or 4 days before his accident

[white ether]

I mean, he partnered Bruce to win Le Mans in 1966 in the GT40

[icy veldt]

the latest handcycle accident i mean... he has had so many damn

we have lost count

[brisk quiver]

Oh man, that timing alone is worrying me

[icy veldt]

he is well now tho

right

last i heard

[white ether]

Afaik, he's awake

Still no other news since that

[icy veldt]

ah i think... i remember readin that he was all ok in the head as well, but i can be wrong

[white ether]

He suffered a coma, woke up 2 months later from that and never heard news about him after that...

Idk if Road & Track is even reliable, but https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a36901587/alex-zanardi-update-july-2021/

Just imagining how would his career be if he was in F1 instead

[icy veldt]

well he was...

and he was very underwhelming

but hey... he is a champ nonetheless

coz..

yeah

[white ether]

Well... he was driving for a shit team

Minardi and Lotus

[icy veldt]

yeah all of em

[round swift]

Williams

[icy veldt]

well he was 5 years out by then wasnt he

[white ether]

Then had a one time opportunity with Williams... but the 1999 car was

[round swift]

P5 thanks to Ralf alone

he scored 3 pods in that car

[icy veldt]

ralf was very quick

i think he slips under the radar

maybe thats how we will remember bottas

[brisk quiver]

We might remember Ralf as the dude who complains about Maz all the time

[white ether]

Ralf got wasted in the Willies coz Pablo and the back to back crashes at Indy didn't help him either

[icy veldt]

he was very quick against jpm when he was new

jpm was surprised by how quick ralf was

[slow grail]

day 41 of posting f1 world champions
1990 - ayrton senna

[white ether]

Acelera Ayrton

[oblique dock]

Something something something Japanese Grand Prix

[late crag]

Something something Chicane

[paper jacinth]

The Driver who's challenge the 4 times WDC Frenchman Professor "Alain Prost", Ex Teammate and Nemesis Rival

[analog jasper]

they did become close near the end

[signal flint]

Then the thing happened

[hardy yacht]

ok

[late crag]

Where's Senna again?

[paper jacinth]

I know that, then become close friends in November 1993 to May 1994 (Senna Death)

[analog jasper]

yeah

[tough sorrel]

you serious?

[icy veldt]

did they become close friends?

i am not sure about that, but they did get rid of the frostiness between em

i think senna apologised and stuff... maybe that was with jackie, maybe both

[brisk quiver]

Help, can't recognize this driver. Even Google Image search didn't give proper results. Can you tell me who this is?

[meager pewter]

Morbidelli?

https://images-wixmp-ed30a86b8c4ca887773594c2.wixmp.com/f/4af76ae2-7f5c-4a42-8afa-5caf322adeee/d6ak9td-0b18fc80-da6c-4b9d-9ea9-6f4645c7b6dd.jpg/v1/fill/w_1024,h_1465,q_75,strp/gianni_morbidelli__1990__by_f1_history_d6ak9td-fullview.jpg?token=eyJ0eXAiOiJKV1QiLCJhbGciOiJIUzI1NiJ9.eyJzdWIiOiJ1cm46YXBwOjdlMGQxODg5ODIyNjQzNzNhNWYwZDQxNWVhMGQyNmUwIiwiaXNzIjoidXJuOmFwcDo3ZTBkMTg4OTgyMjY0MzczYTVmMGQ0MTVlYTBkMjZlMCIsIm9iaiI6W1t7ImhlaWdodCI6Ijw9MTQ2NSIsInBhdGgiOiJcL2ZcLzRhZjc2YWUyLTdmNWMtNGE0Mi04YWZhLTVjYWYzMjJhZGVlZVwvZDZhazl0ZC0wYjE4ZmM4MC1kYTZjLTRiOWQtOWVhOS02ZjQ2NDVjN2I2ZGQuanBnIiwid2lkdGgiOiI8PTEwMjQifV1dLCJhdWQiOlsidXJuOnNlcnZpY2U6aW1hZ2Uub3BlcmF0aW9ucyJdfQ.xr3rfUI5cxySrmWbDAQRwnC_SJhUI8YeVVXL56yUwjM

[analog jasper]

im gonna guess thats a benetton

or a tyrell

nah it cant be a tyrrel

[meager pewter]

No it's like a Camel F3000

https://i.pinimg.com/originals/98/14/2c/98142cc41b00fd4f29944046ae239a6b.jpg

[analog jasper]

i was looking at the lotus'

[meager pewter]

Nah they weren't sponsored by Denim

[analog jasper]

i give up

[meager pewter]

What?

[analog jasper]

i cant find who the guy is

is it morbidelli?

but morbidelli's sponsor was marlboro

[short glade]

morbidelli was in lola

for 1990

[short glade]

i think thats the jordan f3000 team before they went to f1

[meager pewter]

Aaaaah

[short glade]

yea it is

now we gotta find what year it is lol

[meager pewter]

Was Morbidelli in Jordan for F3000?

[short glade]

no

for 1990 he was in lola but before i dont know

hmmmmm

[analog jasper]

f3000 as in

[meager pewter]

Is that Irvine?

[analog jasper]

international f3000?

[short glade]

ye

[short glade]

prrrrobably

[brisk quiver]

Nice, thank you all.

[analog jasper]

this guy?

[meager pewter]

AH

[analog jasper]

is it?

[meager pewter]

That's him but I'm not sure that's Morbidelli

[short glade]

what year is that from

[analog jasper]

1990

naspetti

[short glade]

yea its not morbidelli

morbidelli

more irvine

[tough sorrel]

Ayrton Senna, 1986

[short glade]

senna, 1984

[hybrid citrus]

What a beauty!

[icy veldt]

yum

[graceful zenith]

when was this

[round swift]

i'd guess 2006

[pure musk]

2003

[graceful zenith]

oh wait didnt realize this channel was for stuff before 2001

[round swift]

yes it is, but because you're a dinosaur in the server, i won't scorn you 🙂

[signal flint]

Who raced with andretti in 78

[oblique dock]

Ronnie Peterson

(And Jean Pierre Jarier)

[signal flint]

Was Ronnie south African?

[oblique dock]

He’s Swedish

[signal flint]

Cool

I just got a lotus 79 model

That's why im asking

And why tf were the wheels massive in the 70s

[icy veldt]

It's v pretty

[signal flint]

Yea

[icy veldt]

I just think there weren't many regulations to govern em

But hey

Don't quote me

[signal flint]

Yea

I love v12s

Who doesn't

[icy veldt]

Well.. I love em all

xD

[signal flint]

And the v8s

[icy veldt]

If it's got 4 wheels and it's not an suv

I love it

Well Kimi is the only driver to win a race with V10, V8 and a v6

[signal flint]

Same

[icy veldt]

So I guess he should he part of #classic-motorsport

Lol he is old enough

[signal flint]

Yea

[icy veldt]

To be a classic

[signal flint]

Ill miss him

Itll be different

[icy veldt]

Lol I may miss him next year, but I surely didn't miss him last two races

I think the character would be missed, but yeah...

He will belong here next year

Not yet

[signal flint]

No more passing out in bars

[tough sorrel]

Mainly for grip purposes

they had skinny tires in the early half of the 60’s

and they increased the width to make cornering better

[round swift]

ye they couldn't make wide tyres before

and before the ground effect, the cars relied mainly on mechanical grip

and since the cars were (and still are) RWD, they needed bigger tyres at the rear to maximise the amount of power put on the ground

however, some cars in 1969 were AWD

and the front tyres of these were marginally bigger than front tyres of classical cars

[oblique dock]

Ground effects and aerodynamic grip did the rest

[round swift]

i suspect radial tyres also had an impact on this, but i'm not sure which one

[signal flint]

Ah

Cool

Thank

[slow grail]

day 42 of posting f1 world champions
1991 - ayrton senna

[round swift]

my fave mclaren

[signal flint]

Same

[oblique dock]

30 years ago….

[signal flint]

Yea

[oblique dock]

It’s been 30 years since a V12 powered F1 car, more specifically, a Honda engined car , won a championship. In addition, it’s also been 30 years since a full h pattern f1 car has won a championship as well

[signal flint]

Scary really

I wasnt even alive then either

I was born in the v8 era

The modern v8 era

[round swift]

hmm ye, forgot it's also the last time a V12 won the title.

like, manual gearbox i get, it's objectively worse than a semi-automatic

but V12 is just choices

[oblique dock]

The MP4/6 was able to hold on to the title, thanks to its reliability

[signal flint]

V12 or V10?

[round swift]

ye, it had a better season start than the Williams, basically

[signal flint]

Its kinda hard to think williams were the best team on the grid at one point

Or one of tgem

[round swift]

that's how we know you were born in the V8 era 😛

[signal flint]

Yea

[paper jacinth]

One of the most competitive cars all time!

It the only Car Champion with V12 Engine, and last with the Manual Gearbox

Ferrari in 90s didn't claim that achievement, but McLaren won with consistency and strategy work

[round swift]

Didn’t ferrari have paddle shifters in ‘91?

they did

It the only Car Champion with V12 Engine
so the flat-12 of Ferrari doesn't count? It won the WCC 4 times

[meager pewter]

People get really higgldy piggldy about it

[paper jacinth]

It's a V12 Engine for you?

[low valve]

its a flat twelve, not a v12

[meager pewter]

The sticking point is that they were all Flats, but not Boxers

[silent escarp]

If it has a vee angle then v engine I'd not then flat

[meager pewter]

The only Boxer 12 to exist is the Subaru

[silent escarp]

Boxer is firing order stuff

[meager pewter]

Hence the consensus that they're 180°V's

[silent escarp]

Right?

[meager pewter]

No, a Boxer is where each piston has it's own crankpin

[silent escarp]

Ah okay

[meager pewter]

https://s1.cdn.autoevolution.com/images/news/there-s-a-big-difference-between-a-boxer-and-flat-engine-85305-7.jpg

Flat is left

Boxer is right

[silent escarp]

Ah I see

[meager pewter]

Called a Boxer coz for a B4 or whatever it'd look like each side is well... A boxer

Okay yes Firing order will be different but

[silent escarp]

This also affect firing order because both sides do the same thing at the same time

[meager pewter]

Yeah, so each pair has a separation of one 360° each

[silent escarp]

I wonder what benefits this design would provide

[meager pewter]

Whereas for a flat/180°V, each pair would have one fire with 180°, then the next is 540°

For a 4 stroke of course

[silent escarp]

Two strokes are a whole other kettle of fish

[meager pewter]

Well for a 2 stroke they'd fire every 180° just as is

4 stroke you obviously have to allow for the exhaust side

So I assume this is why Porsche always go for boxer layouts for smaller piston counts because it allows for an even pulse for each pair of cylinders

Whereas say their F12 or F16 in the 917's were not

[tough sorrel]

well it was the newey glory days

then Williams management became toxic and doing stuff behind his back

[oblique dock]

What?

I’m imagining that this probably happened to Damon Hill, too

[tough sorrel]

Yeah

they kind of just ran him out of Williams

Williams has always had a tradition of going behind their driver's word

They betrayed Mansell by replacing him with Prost without consulting him

[oblique dock]

Oh damn

Also, I also remember reading something about Reutemann facing a streak of team orders, just so Jones would have more success during the 1981 season

[tough sorrel]

They always took opportunities for getting better drivers even if Frank Williams was straight out being a douche

[oblique dock]

man….

whatever happened to teamwork and support?

[tough sorrel]

well Williams had the type of ego like Ron Dennis and Enzo Ferrari

they made great choices for the most part but they were douches

[oblique dock]

I don’t remember Ron Dennis being a douche

[tough sorrel]

he was in the later years

like late 2000s and early 2010s

[oblique dock]

Did Dennis have favoritism over a certain driver or something else?

[tough sorrel]

it was kind of reasonable for Frank to give some success to the driver they gained initial success with but with Reutemann literally losing the WDC by a few points it was horrible

at times I think

but not so much as other teams

cause Dennis' ability was that he could control 2 alpha figures in the team or 2 talented racers

they would have issues (Senna and Prost) but rarely would it affect the team and the drivers success

[oblique dock]

If Sir Frank had focused his efforts on Reutemann’s performance, or maybe just divide and conquet between him and Jones, then maybe Reutemann could’ve won the 1981 WDC

[tough sorrel]

he should've

but i kind of see what Williams was thinking for putting Jones more effort

he did finish 3rd

but there was little chance he could win cause even though he won the final race he was down by 4 points to Piquet

[oblique dock]

What could’ve been if Piquet lost…

[tough sorrel]

he almost did

if Reutemann was atleast 5th or higher (considering Piquet was below him) he would've won

and Reutemann could've scored points at the second final race in Canada

but they asked him to let Jones through and after they had a bit of a scuffle at the start Reutemann dropped back and finished 10th

[oblique dock]

What a shame

Jones had his 5 minutes of fame. Why not Reutemann? Well, again, Frank had favoritism

[tough sorrel]

exactly

Reutemann in fact qualified 2nd

and Jones was behind him at 3rd

so why Frank Williams fucked up a WDC opportunity still boggles me

[oblique dock]

[tough sorrel]

and thats not even the worse part

after Reutemann fell back

Jones RETIRED from the race after spinning out

[late crag]

Guess the WDC dude took the day off

that sucks

[oblique dock]

P2 and P3 to 10th and DNF

That’s a collosal screw up

[tough sorrel]

but the highlight of the race

was Villeneuve finishing 3rd despite racing for a while with his peripheral vision

[oblique dock]

Yeah. That and Laffite giving the Matra V12 its last ever victory in F1

[tough sorrel]

36 year old Alberto Ascari 4 months before his death, 1955 Argentine Grand Prix.

[round swift]

Thanks for explaining, there's often a misconception that flat equals boxer, when it doesn't. The Ferrari engine that won the 1975, 76, 77 and 79 WCC titles was a V12 at 180°, thus flat.
But by design, it is a vee engine, and it sounds hawt

[tough sorrel]

Youngest WDCs of every decade
50's - Mike Hawthorn, 29 ('58)
60's - Jim Clark, 27 ('63)
70's - Emerson Fittipaldi, 25 ('72)
80's - Ayrton Senna, 28 ('88)
90's - Michael Schumacher, 25 ('94)
00's - Lewis Hamilton, 23 ('08)
10's - Sebastian Vettel, 23 ('10)

Oldest WDCs of every decade
50’s - Juan Manuel Fangio, 46 (‘57)
60’s - Jack Brabham, 40 (‘66)
70’s - Mario Andretti, 34 (‘78)
80’s - Nigel Mansell & Alain Prost, 38 (‘92 & ‘93)
90’s - Damon Hill, 36 (‘96)
00’s - Michael Schumacher, 35 (‘04)
10’s - Lewis Hamilton, 34 (‘19)

[molten patio]

didn't he lash out at newey for adding a bit of colour to his office

[steel lance]

he didnt lash out at him

he was just annoyed

[slow grail]

day 43 of posting f1 world champions
1992 - nigel mansell

[potent tendon]

only 10 days left

[low valve]

Until.....

[late crag]

A. My birthday
B. 2002

[low valve]

What so special abt 2002

[late crag]

It's 2002?

Idfk

[oblique dock]

10 days left until the champions move to #f1-hq-photos-and-videos

Cause it’s F1 stuff AFTER 2001

[spark cove]

Oo

[round swift]

Roland 😔

[tough sorrel]

the purple Simtek

[tough sorrel]

Jimmy Clark

[outer seal]

idk if this belongs here or not

Fun fact :
In 2007 Brazillian GP, with Raikkonen winning the race Alonso needed 2nd, and Hamilton needed 5th to win WDC. Both failed.
In 2008 Brazillian GP, Alonso finished 2nd and Hamilton finished 5th.

:0

[oblique dock]

Interesting

[outer seal]

indeed

[meager pewter]

Alfred and Dick Seaman?

[analog jasper]

damn fangio had a protege

i never knew that

[tepid horizon]

does anyone know what year this Ferrari is?

[round swift]

something like the 2002 or 2003

[analog jasper]

probably 2002

but idk

[white ether]

From the livery, it looks like the F2002

[spark cove]

There’s also the 07 car coming into the pit as well

Damm Ferrari’s at road Atlanta

[meager pewter]

That chief is the F2004

[round swift]

ah yes it has a wider nose looking at it again

[meager pewter]

It's not really the nose but

[round swift]

and the Vodafone logo, not sure they had it in 2003

ohh

the front wing is made of 3 elements

is that it?

i initially felt the sidepods were too boxy to be the 2004

[meager pewter]

That and the engine cover isn't sloped, and has the little T-Wing at the front

[north sand]

Congrats @meager pewter, you're now on lap 10

[round swift]

i love the 2002 and 2003 Ferrari engine covers

[white ether]

Oh wait... the bargeboard has a small winglet on the middle, must be the F2004 then

[analog jasper]

bruh you guys really analyzed that to the core

[round swift]

yes

[slow grail]

day 44 of posting f1 world champions
1993 - alain prost

[bright umbra]

ALAIN

Best ever

[icy veldt]

.truth

[north sand]

Prost > Senna

[rich bronze]

[oblique dock]

La professeur

[round swift]

Le

[paper jacinth]

The best Electronic F1 Car Ever with the Best Technical F1 Driver ever, Amazing combination!

[steel lance]

ah that driver and that car

perfect

[analog jasper]

YEAAAAAAAAA CHAD ALAIN

the goat smh

[agile surge]

6 time world champion Alain Prost

[spark cove]

[round swift]

what's so funny 😛

[late crag]

Le

https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-laugh-gif-14359545

[round swift]

[slow grail]

day 45 of posting f1 world champions
1994 - michael schumacher

[agile surge]

The first of 7

[oblique dock]

A championship marred by tragedy, changes, and controversy

[round swift]

the car looked good

first car to win the title with a raised nose

Those raised noses make the onboards look better for some reason

idk what it is

it looks odd without it

because we're so used to it

[agile surge]

I love the raised noses

[round swift]

https://youtu.be/O22E8lXfjVg hello why are the wheels floating in the air

(bonus V12 sound)

and everyone's favourite James Hunt & Murray Walker

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1ZUfwjHMNrw although, with this onboard it still feels odd. i guess it's just the T-cam angle i';m more used to

(that's a V8)

[white ether]

It's really weird how different the transition of car design from 93 to 94 was....

The way the FW16 looked compared to the Benetton was so... different, it felt like the B194 was ahead of its time in aero design

[round swift]

hmm, i'd rather say that Williams was still too conservative then

[white ether]

Adrian Newey moment

[round swift]

teams with a raised nose in 94: Benetton, Ferrari, Footwork (Arrows), Larrousse, Pacific

tbf, the Williams was still darn quick without the raised nose

although unstable at the beginning of the year, as you probably know

[bright umbra]

I wouldn’t say that Newey is conservative really, more that he likes to keep the same working Formula continuously

[white ether]

The 412T1 didn't really had a high nose tbh... it was just a ghetto nose design

[round swift]

it's not very high, but air flows under it

[white ether]

Ferrari moment: Revert back to a nose wing as the rest of the grid goes for the High nose then return back with the high nose concept from a car that isn't built for it

The F310 was just downright ugly

The ugliest Ferrari F1 car imo

[round swift]

i quite like the sidepods of it, but it was mostly ugly yes

tbf, the 412T2 was also very quick without a raised nose

[oblique dock]

http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0035/9877/8435/articles/Ferrari_F310_3.jpg?v=1609512011

I think the 310 looks nice.

The raised nose version on the other hand….. not as good

[round swift]

yeah no lol

definitely an afterthought

[white ether]

Still whack that Ferrari literally named their 1997 car the F310B while having no relation to the previous F310

[round swift]

it did have a relation to the previous F310

a 3L V10 engine 😛

if they weren't Ferrari, it would have been F310C, F310D etc.

[copper cairn]

#15 Innes Ireland & #14 Roger Penske. Watkins Glen, 1962

[oblique dock]

Senna in a Tyrrell

[white ether]

The cursed pics of the past

[round swift]

hmm, wonder what he did there

i know his ties with Honda were very close

[short glade]

senna in a 1983 f1 test in silverstone

mp4-1

some mclaren tests during start of 1988

mp4-3b with the new honda engine cuz the mp4-4 wasnt done yet

just so senna can adapt

[round swift]

it's funny how the MP4/3 actually look a lot like the /4 would

except it had a wide nose and a higher seating position

[bright umbra]

both are shat on by this 😎

[short glade]

:c

[round swift]

i prefer the proportions of the /2 as well

[bright umbra]

The overall shape of it is so nice to look at

[agile surge]

The 4/2 is beautiful

[agile surge]

Mmmm the #1 McLaren of 88

[short glade]

mm no thats not from 88

[agile surge]

I believe it is 88 or am I being wrong

86?

[short glade]

87

[agile surge]

87?

Ah

[short glade]

mp4-3

[round swift]

that's the /3

from 87

[short glade]

looks very similar to the mp4-4 tho

[agile surge]

Makes sense, Prost won the championship in 86 so he’d run the #1 for 87

[short glade]

yes

[bright umbra]

the /3 is what you get when you stamp on the /2

[short glade]

lmao

[round swift]

ye, that's because it's actually Steve Nichols who put the low profile aspect into the car, not Gordon Murray when he joined towards 88

[short glade]

last year of the tag-porsche engines

[bright umbra]

Murray saw low profile and said hold my fancar

[short glade]

mp4-3 but they put a honda engine in it so senna could drive around since the mp4-4 wasnt done yet

[round swift]

well, he instigated the low profile idea on the 1986 Brabham, but it was super unreliable

[bright umbra]

That was a flat plank

[round swift]

i suppose the lack of competitivity of McLaren in 87 ("only" 3 wins) was due to the Porsche engine that wasn't developed enough compared to the Honda.

[bright umbra]

like wtf

[agile surge]

Long boi

[round swift]

yes, the idea was simply to cleat the airflow for the rear wing to maximise its efficiency

[placid bane]

[placid bane]

uh oh

tyre go gone gone

[bright umbra]

longboi honda engine

[round swift]

so he had to tilt the engine, that was already unreliable. now it was even more unreliable because there was some oil leaks inside the chambers or something like that

[short glade]

and a chunk of the front wing

rip

[placid bane]

[bright umbra]

the FW11 is pretty hot

[round swift]

and Elio de Angelis died while testing that Brabham

[short glade]

yea

rear wing snapped off iirc

[round swift]

while Bernie was disinterested in running a team, he wanted to run the sports.
So I suppose Gordon felt it was time to have a breathe and then go to another team

[short glade]

and to mclaren he went

[round swift]

yes

[short glade]

and made the greatest car of all time

well most successful

[round swift]

he didn't stay doing F1 s tuff for long at McLaren though, i think by 1991 he was already doing something else

[short glade]

oof

[bright umbra]

Arguably greatest. But definitely most successful

but looked meh

[short glade]

mercedes winning almost all races when

[round swift]

i'm not that fond of the /4 nowadays, i prefer the /5 or /6 to it

the low profile + very visible rollbar feels strange

[short glade]

i prefer the mp4-6 too

v12 vtec honda masterplan

[bright umbra]

I prefer the /2 the most

then /13

[round swift]

/13 just looks clean

[short glade]

hmm

hmm

[bright umbra]

hmm yes

[short glade]

3 grooves on the rear tyres

where did the 4th groove go

[round swift]

that's a render, isn't it

[bright umbra]

not sure

Could be

[short glade]

well if it is its wrong lol

mercedes v10 go boom

[bright umbra]

still hot

[short glade]

yes

[round swift]

hits different in the testing livery

[short glade]

damn never seen it in testing livery

mclaren test liveries should stay just pure orange

[round swift]

agreed, as some kind of tradition

even when the whole car is orange now

[woven zinc]

that's the 1998 car, though even in 1998 the rear tyres had 4 grooves

whereas the front ones had 3

[short glade]

i know

render is wrong

[woven zinc]

I thought the 1998 cars' rear tyres had 3 grooves as well for a moment

yeah

[round swift]

no it was 3 and 4

which always felt odd when i learned about it later

[short glade]

4 at the back and 3 at the front

[round swift]

when i was a child, cars had 4 grooves

front and rear

[short glade]

so after 98

[round swift]

ye

they probably figured out something was w rong since they added a 4th groove only 1 year in these new regs with grooved tyres

[short glade]

still looked clean

[white ether]

Pre-West livery of McLaren was wack

The Marlboro livery didn't look that right on a the late 90's cars from McLaren

[short glade]

thicc

[steel lance]

oh 2 rear wings

[short glade]

yes

[raw stratus]

X-Wing

[short glade]

yes

[raw stratus]

Ferrari X-Wing

[oblique dock]

Well Tyrrell was using Honda power, more specifically the RA101E iirc

[white ether]

T-Wings... before they were called that

[round swift]

yes, that one

[round swift]

OTD in 1987, Alain Prost got his 28th win, getting the record of most Grand Prix wins he would hold until the 2nd of september 2001 (13y 11m and 12 days)

[oblique dock]

And then Schumacher equalled him in race wins and championships

[round swift]

yes. Schumacher held this record for 19y 1m and 23 days

wonder for how long will Lewis keep it himself

[oblique dock]

We can only wait and see

[slow grail]

day 46 of posting f1 world champions
1995 - michael schumacher

[bright umbra]

Mfw clothing brand assfucks established teams and manufacturers

[round swift]

and won titles

now we have an energy drink brand tbh

[oblique dock]

The B195’s underrated imo

[round swift]

true, man really dominated the season

[oblique dock]

Yeah, it resulted in the only wcc for Benetton (and another victory to Renault’s winning streak as an engine supplier)

[round swift]

yup

[white ether]

The B195 does something funny in me....

Idk if it's the livery or the aero design

[round swift]

Did it have launch control?

Wasn’t that found in the B195 or the B194

erm

the B194 supposedly had traction control

but Pat Symonds denied it

Interesting

then.. i don't think his word is worth a lot on the matter

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Formula_One_cheating_controversy

Hmm 🤔

[signal flint]

are theyre any pics of Sennas helmet

[late crag]

In what way?

Just standard, hell yeah

[round swift]

Senna used a number of helmets over the course of his Formula 1 career, they were mostly made by Bell but he did wear other brands in the later years. The helmet you see here is from the 1988 season, it's a Bell XFM-1, the model worn by Senna between 1983 and 1989.

[spark cove]

Why the Marlboro logo blurred is it because of laws against advertising?

Damm Marlboro is already in my autocorrect sus

[round swift]

Yeah I just found it online but I guess everybody is blurring it for some reason 🤷‍♂️

[spark cove]

Yeah a few countries have very strict rules about tabacoo advertising

[round swift]

Take the disclaimers before watching old f1 races VERY SERIOUSLY. I watched the 1973 dutch gp and i was like "oh crashes used to happen all the time back then no big deal." I was horrified with what i saw do not google the races and see pics just read the articles

[weak ridge]

exactly

really goes to show how much F1 and racing in general has evolved safety-wise

[round swift]

Yeah

[acoustic void]

Idk if that’s ok

[signal flint]

thats awesome

thanks

[acoustic void]

Np

[slow grail]

day 47 of posting f1 world champions
1996 - damon hill

[low valve]

Beautiful

[oblique dock]

25 years since Murray Walker got a lump in his throat

[edgy tree]

Damon Hill is under appreciated in my opinion

[dull cape]

Agreed

[sharp umbra]

!truth

[north sand]

Prost > Senna

[oblique dock]

!truth

[north sand]

Prost > Senna

[late crag]

.choose senna prost

[north sand]

prost

[late crag]

damnit he's good

[paper jacinth]

Prost beat Senna two times when they were teammates at McLaren in 88 and 89
In 88 Alain made 105 points and Ayrton made 94 points, so mathematically Prost is the 1988 World Champion
In 89, Prost made 81 points and Senna had a 8 DNFs to made 60 points!
So, Prost beat Senna when they were teammates!

[round swift]

Prost won 11 races when they were together, and finished 2nd 13 times
Senna won 14 races and finished 2nd 4 times

[paper jacinth]

Prost won to Senna in Consistency and Strategic, and Senna try to beat him in Speed and Aggressive Style

[round swift]

yes, Senna had good reliability in 88 and that's why he won (and the 11 best results rule, obviously)

in 89 Senna had shit reliability (not saying he was innocent in that) and he finished 2nd once, won the race, or didn't score points

[agile surge]

Prost is often overlooked by most as being in the shadow of Senna

[paper jacinth]

No, The McLaren MP4/4 was one of the reliable cars in 88, that why Prost and Senna had only a double retirement in Italy

[agile surge]

I believe they should be looked as equals

[round swift]

Senna was more spectacular

[agile surge]

Prost is in my view an equal to Senna

[round swift]

that's just it

[agile surge]

just different styles of driving

[round swift]

yes. the car was sufficiently reliable that Prost couldn't benefit from his teammate retiring a lot more, which happened a lot

since Prost nursed his machine a lot

[paper jacinth]

Bros, do you think the McLaren MP4/4 is a Perfect car in F1?

[agile surge]

Prost was calm, consistent, calculating, and not really too harsh. It meant that he would race, but wasn't prone to recklessness, and often won championships due to him being consistently good

Senna was more of a "go for it" kinda guy, a monster on track and lightning quick. Yet obviously, that mentality also kinda caused him to loose out in the long run sometimes, etc etc

[paper jacinth]

Better than Mercedes in 2016 and Ferrari in 2002?

[round swift]

it was the perfect car for the time

[agile surge]

yet both are equals in terms of greatness

[round swift]

it was faster and more reliable than everyone else

also had the best drivers pairing

[agile surge]

it's definitely up there

[paper jacinth]

Yes, in 2016, Hamilton and Rosberg battle in equal levels

And Senna and Prost too

[agile surge]

the 2020 Mercedes car is technically the fastest and most reliable we've had to date

[round swift]

yes

[agile surge]

so right now it's a "perfect car"

[round swift]

i'd say 2013 Red Bull, but Webber had an average season and didn't even finish 2nd

[paper jacinth]

It's Just the DAS system, who's made the car faster

[paper jacinth]

He lost to Alonso with the 3rd best car in F1

Hahahahaha

[round swift]

the 2020 Merc benefitted from the same things McLaren did in 88

they had the better, more reliable car

Ferrari had the shite PU
Red Bull had a very characterial car, and arguably only 1 driver to extract things out of it

[paper jacinth]

Imagine if Leclerc and Verstappen had this car in 2020 😳

[round swift]

people also underrate Lewis severely

[paper jacinth]

I like him, but the Age is starting to getting down his talent

[round swift]

we'll see next year

[paper jacinth]

Raikkonen is retiring, and Alonso is next!

[round swift]

maybe he'll do relatively poorly like Seb in 2019

[agile surge]

Actually DAS had not that much of an impact

Helped in a way? yeah, but it wasn't a game changer nor did it make the car significantly faster

[round swift]

if anything, i expect the DAS acted like a point of focus on the car, when other things on it were even more efficient and people noticed less

[molten patio]

prost ap02

[fast hornet]

oh yeah

what doth thoust art doings, step-hamilton/

[round swift]

wrong channel!

#f1-hq-photos-and-videos

[slow grail]

day 48 of posting f1 world champions
1997 - jacques villeneuve

[oblique dock]

The last Williams champion

[bright umbra]

Based car

[round swift]

i like the 95 to 97 Williams cars

[bright umbra]

Rothmans car

[round swift]

and high nose

[balmy canopy]

oh look its the guy that hit schumacher

[round swift]

sttfu

[bright umbra]

Oh look it’s that failed musician

[oblique dock]

Oh look it’s the guy who made the one of the worst career moves in F1 history

[limber atlas]

Oh look it's that guy who won the indi 500 that one time

[low valve]

sameee

[silent escarp]

very nice picture

[brisk quiver]

I like cigarette cars

[signal flint]

for now

[signal flint]

i like the earlier ones tbh

[round swift]

ye i like its style

[brisk quiver]

1st ever F1 safety car - Porsche 914/6

[bright umbra]

2 very brilliant drivers

[round swift]

"See Ayrton, that's where you should put him out of the race.
Ah I see, thanks Mauricio, you're such a big brain"

[agile surge]

gugelmin

[short glade]

leaf lotus gold team

[bright umbra]

one of the best liveries

[oblique dock]

“So…. Care to join us?”

[round swift]

hey honey.... there's still room on this couch...

[low valve]

Saw this at the festival of speed

Was deafening

[round swift]

i've never had the chance to hear a DFV live, must be cool

[paper jacinth]

Amazing Frenchman Drivers

[paper jacinth]

"The two McLarens leads from Mansell, Piquet, Prost and Patrese"

[slow grail]

day 49 of posting f1 world champions
1998 - mika häkkinen

[bright umbra]

3rd best looking McLaren of all time after MP4/2 and M23

[balmy canopy]

ayyyyyy

🐐

[signal flint]

best williams is the FW15

[meager pewter]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f7/Williams_FW15C_front-right_Donington_Grand_Prix_Collection.jpg

This puppy?

[oblique dock]

Underrated as hell

[signal flint]

yea

that beauty

better looking than Leclerc

thats saying something

[oblique dock]

Imo the best looking Williams would have to be the FW11

[signal flint]

oooh

thats nice

best Beneton?

or however you spell it

[oblique dock]

Best Benetton = B194
Best LOOKING Benetton = idk

[signal flint]

the liveries are good tho

cant denie

cant spell

sush

deny*

shush*

[meager pewter]

Well that's easy

[low valve]

Nice spelling

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/pY-OEuNQZLY

Oh, what could have been if both Ferraris made it to the end of the race

[analog jasper]

yeah but berger got screwed

and alesi got screwed as well

[signal flint]

shut

[steel lance]

that car looks so good

[signal flint]

its really does

[low valve]

🤩

[carmine kindle]

Prost and mansell ?

[round swift]

yes

[short glade]

metalfond cosworth 1-fomet

[short glade]

metalfond being towed by truck

gp unknown

[woven zinc]

looks like it could be Canada?

[short glade]

probably

[meager pewter]

1992 Canada

[slow grail]

day 50 of posting f1 world champions
1999 - mika häkkinen

[balmy canopy]

AY

🐐

[molten patio]

arrows a21

[round swift]

only 2 days to go 😔

[oblique dock]

And now….
The end is near,
and so we face….
The final champion.

[round swift]

yes, the final boss of the #classic-motorsport game

[round swift]

Guess the years for each one

1977

[late crag]

1953?

[round swift]

1958

1997

[late crag]

damn

[round swift]

1978

Too close

[round swift]

1995

Oh man

You got one right

So good job

1958?/

Yes

Lesgo

[round swift]

You won’t get this one

[round swift]

2013

[late crag]

1983

[round swift]

No

Higher

[late crag]

famnit

uhhhh

1987

[round swift]

YES

[late crag]

huh

[agile bramble]

niki last title winning car

[round swift]

1984

[agile bramble]

guess the team

[spark cove]

put a better photo mate

[agile bramble]

thats why its hard

[late crag]

its

uhhh

Fuck it, Leyton House

[agile bramble]

wrong

leyton house is blue m8

[spark cove]

What is it then

[agile bramble]

scuderia italy

lol

[spark cove]

Yes lol funny haha

[analog jasper]

scuderia italia

[copper cairn]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/890869077080424518/891164391557439488/1984-Frankrijk-Bellof-01.jpg

[oblique dock]

Herr Bellof

[bright umbra]

😔

Could have done greater things

[short glade]

95 and 58

and the first one idk

197something

[tough sorrel]

Senna and Lauda talking on the morning of the 1994 San Marino GP on safety regulations.

[round swift]

79, 60, 95

[tough sorrel]

1979, 1959, 1996?

[round swift]

classic tabloid

[bright umbra]

The Mirror

[tough sorrel]

Fastest Driver in F1, just a shame he was taken away too fast

[slow grail]

day 51 of posting f1 world champions
2000 - michael schumacher

[oblique dock]

This is it, guys….

It’s been fun.

[limber atlas]

see you all in #f1-hq-photos-and-videos

[weak ridge]

OHHH

thats why you guys were saying "only 2 days left"

[round swift]

yep 🙂

[signal flint]

Yea

Ik its a repost

But its so cool

[round swift]

1981

[oblique dock]

1983

[late crag]

1985

[round swift]

Thats 1981

[late crag]

1987

[round swift]

No

1987 was blue and Yellow

[late crag]

1989

[analog jasper]

thats 1983

its the bt52

like man, the brabhams in 81 looked different

[round swift]

Peak Human Performance

[round swift]

1957

[tough sorrel]

Ferrari F1-2000

just barely qualifies for classic

[round swift]

Photo taken: Jan 3rd, 2001

[signal flint]

Damn

[round swift]

28 years ago

[signal flint]

92?

93*

[round swift]

93 ye

reminder i'm almost 28

[torn gulch]

Old

🫂

[round swift]

not really, but time doesn't stop

[torn gulch]

Yeah, I know 28 is young

[signal flint]

Im almost half your age

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/kMnhBInl9go

[slow grail]

day 52 of posting f1 world champions
2001 - michael schumacher

[molten patio]

the last one here

[bright umbra]

😔

[limber atlas]

it's been a good one lads

to #f1-hq-photos-and-videos we go

[oblique dock]

It’s been a good one

[weak ridge]

after this is over you should do every race winner

but idk cause there's a lot of them

[analog jasper]

sadge

[late crag]

LETS GOOO

I think I know what I should do

[round swift]

1950 Race Winners:
Farina (3)
Fangio (3)
Parsons (1)

[late crag]

Day 1 of the cars that won the WCC:
1958- Vanwall

[tough sorrel]

Day 1 of the Formula 1 WDC runner-ups:

1950 - Juan Manuel Fangio, Alfa Romeo

[weak ridge]

wow these are some good ones

the birth of 3 new chains

[agile bramble]

day 1 of posting best liveries:
Toro Rosso STR3

[oblique dock]

And so, the story continues…

[bright umbra]

..... very #classic-motorsport of you

[agile bramble]

its pretty classic lol

[bright umbra]

[round swift]

1951 Winners: Fagoli (1) Ascari (2) Fangio (3) (farina 1) wallard 1 gonzalaz 1

[tough sorrel]

woah buddy one day at a time

[round swift]

*1995

You guys are good

Guess the year

[tough sorrel]

1979

[round swift]

DAMN your good

[tough sorrel]

easy to tell by the front wing

[round swift]

Give me a second imma get a really hard one

From the 90’s

[oblique dock]

Guess the year

[tough sorrel]

1973

tyrell

or 74

wait yes

74

its sheckter

after stewart and cevert were gone from tyrell

smaller front wheels

[round swift]

Guess the year

[tough sorrel]

1998

[round swift]

DAMNNNN

Guess the year

[oblique dock]

1990

[tough sorrel]

1989

[round swift]

Wrong

[tough sorrel]

oh wait its 88 i think

[round swift]

1990

Life L190

[tough sorrel]

really?

oh life

[oblique dock]

Yeah

[round swift]

Guess the year

[oblique dock]

1985

[tough sorrel]

87

[oblique dock]

Thl1

[round swift]

Also what was the slowest lap in f1 history?

1985 yesss

Beatrice as a sponsor 💯

[oblique dock]

Hart engines and lola chassis

[round swift]

What was the slowest F1 lap in history?

And where?

[tough sorrel]

thats very specific

[round swift]

Heres one: 7:16.212 to lap Imola Once

[tough sorrel]

well its bruno giacomelli what did you expect from him and that shitbox car

[round swift]

His teammate..

Wasn’t that 1988

[oblique dock]

That was 1990

[round swift]

Ok

But the worst lap in f1 history

Is

😆

What year is that lol

[tough sorrel]

of course

andrea moda

[round swift]

1992 monaco

😆

Wow

KEK

[tough sorrel]

probably rosberg doing a how to run of monaco

[oblique dock]

Moreno actually qualified

…and then retired from the race

[round swift]

The chassis wasnt that bad

It was just the fact the team was horrendous

[tough sorrel]

Jody Scheckter's championship defending season was so bad he failed to qualify in Canada and retired from nearly all his races

[round swift]

85 or 86?

[oblique dock]

85

The nose

The Fw11b’s nose was a little wider iirc

[round swift]

This is the fw11

It’s the 1986 version

I got u haha

[oblique dock]

Damn

The Fw11 originally was my first guess

[tough sorrel]

86

cause of the number

[round swift]

Yup

[tough sorrel]

piquet left brabham in 85

so it couldnt be 85

[round swift]

Guess the year

@oblique dock

[oblique dock]

1987

[round swift]

DAMNN

[oblique dock]

Mp4/3 test car

[round swift]

I thought I was gonna get you

Lmao

You are a Marlboro maniac

[oblique dock]

Guess the year (Easy)

[round swift]

Damn ummm

1992

Idk

[oblique dock]

Correct.

[analog jasper]

gitanes

[round swift]

Guess the year