classic-motorsport

[bright umbra]

but I find the MP4/2 to be the most interesting Macca

[round swift]

a CanAm model, a few road cars

[bright umbra]

proper orange boi

[round swift]

yup, proper orange, like the CanAm

[bright umbra]

hard not to love this

[round swift]

i agree, but they didn't have it

also i prefer the 2B or 2C, the weird clog rear wing doesn't really make it to me

[bright umbra]

its a brighter orange than what they use today

[round swift]

probably just lighting

[bright umbra]

oh, so it was not brighter?

[round swift]

i don't think so

just heavily lit

[bright umbra]

hmmm

[bright umbra]

M23 😍

[bright umbra]

I kinda don't like the MP4/4

It's aesthetically not as pleasing

[north sand]

Congrats @bright umbra, you're now on lap 40

[bright umbra]

this is the hotter and underappreciated sister

[round swift]

the first dominating all conquering McLaren

and that's about all i have

[bright umbra]

damn son you've seen some proper pedigree

[bright umbra]

BT53?

[round swift]

think that's still a 49

[bright umbra]

Gloss red ferrari with black wings is the hottest ferrari

[bright umbra]

oh

[round swift]

don't think i saw this either when i went to the RB Ring, they had a few cars on display

[bright umbra]

you did see it?

obligatory yellow 2C post

[round swift]

no i don't think i saw the /2 irl

[bright umbra]

o

this beast

[round swift]

i like how at first it didn't even say made by Porsche

then they added it when they figured the /2 was a good c ar that could win races

[bright umbra]

wait really?

thats hilarious

[round swift]

in case the engine wasn't good enough, or the chassis it paired with wasn't

it'd just be a TAG engine

[bright umbra]

Porsche really didn't want to be associated with a failed / bad project eh

[round swift]

basically ye

even though they;re the ones who designed and built the engines

[bright umbra]

probably would have blamed the chassis and left if it had not worked out

this is the best looking mclaren don't @ me even

[round swift]

ye i've got a diecast of the /2C, looks super slick compared to the rest

[bright umbra]

It just looks complete

[round swift]

a staple of 80s McLarens

[bright umbra]

the MP4/4 (in my opinion, stans don't murder me) looks like a hunchback slightly

[round swift]

simple, slick, elegant, and super fast

[bright umbra]

MP4/2 is perfect

[round swift]

ye, i guess the low profile Gordon Murray wanted to try successfully didn't really work with the no airbox styles of the turbo cars

this also looks somewhat odd imo

[bright umbra]

Thats a lego brick tf

[round swift]

but from the front it looks good

[bright umbra]

Another Murray because thats a Brabham?

[round swift]

ye that's his first low profile car

had to tilt the BMW engine so it had 0 reliability

and Elio de Angelis died with it in testing

goal was to clean the line as much as possible so there would be no obstacle between the air coming towards the car and the rear wing

5they didn't have to tilt the Honda V6 in the /4, so it was reliable, and it worked like it should have in the 55

[bright umbra]

oh yeah 😔

[round swift]

however, it's not the first McLaren trying with a low profile, the Steve Nichols MP4/3 of 87 already started the trend for them.

not to the same extent, but it was already lower

so Murray didn't invent the /4, he just helped Nichols doing it and their combined expertise led to it

[bright umbra]

Oh yeah didn't Prost complain about how low the /4 was?

iirc

[round swift]

hmm idk

he might complain about the new seating position

aka the one used today with the legs raised compared to your lower body

[bright umbra]

I can only find a carthrottle blogpost about prost calling the seating position uncomfortable

[round swift]

he said in a video with the old 80s renault he used to sit directly on the monocoque without any cushion

maybe he still did that and couldn't any longer

[bright umbra]

hmm maybe

[round swift]

and with BRM in 1973

[oblique dock]

That's Marco Werner

[round swift]

no its niki lauda

it's his car

[round swift]

marco's or niki's?

that is literally lauda at monaco

you can see its him because he always wore a helmet too big for his head as preference. hence the burns in the crash. his helmet flew off

making helmet size fitting a mandatory practice

thenb why does it say Marco on the helmet.

[round swift]

i dont know... why does it

its laudas car and number

you cant argue with that

this last picture is Lauda

they are both lauda

well, i could argue. but you're probably a troll so i won't bother

you can even reverse image search

it is lauda at monaco

you can hardly call me a troll considering i am arguing a solid point 🤷‍♂️

https://marco-werner.de/en/marco-werner-drives-historic-ferrari-and-lotus/

[round swift]

jean alesi was in lauda's car at that event not werner

werner was the one that wrecked alesi

https://youtu.be/LPWH8PzHY5k

this year yes

actually look at the face in the helmet that is clearly niki lauda from the off

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIpAnP0a-qY

[round swift]

okay so if the image posted by @round swift is indeed marco werner in 2018 it serves no place in this channel

🕰️ Anything Formula One before 2001

it's a formula one car from before 2001

[round swift]

it doesn't specify car

read the quote

"Anything FORMULA 1" this isn't 2001 it's 2018

[oblique dock]

What

[round swift]

oh

nevermind

deleted rip

its still not 2001 or before

[oblique dock]

The date the picture of Werner was taken doesn't apply to the rules, as far as I know

Any classic F1 car that may be in a photo from any year is acceptable

[round swift]

is that written anywhere?

[oblique dock]

Technically, no.

"Then it's still not 2001 or before"

[round swift]

okay so we can't go by that premise unless a mod gives the go ahead

[round swift]

exactly

[oblique dock]

Just check in with the staff/moderators and see what they have to say. I'm just another servergoer.

[round swift]

hmm

Im an admin

[round swift]

yeah but a norris fan doesn't have an opinion

Alright mr funny

[oblique dock]

Well that was just uncalled for

[desert estuary]

Bro chill out

[round swift]

Like this

[oblique dock]

And this

[short glade]

times when front wings didnt exist until 1983 or 1984

[torn gulch]

Lol

[bright umbra]

BT53?

[oblique dock]

BT52

[bright umbra]

Still quite sex

[oblique dock]

Very sex

[copper cairn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/600157465816072213/838246294082027560/history-timeline-gallery-01.png

[bright umbra]

FONDMETALFONDMETAL

[oblique dock]

Gabriele Tarquini

[bright umbra]

Dammit, high quality images of /2 that look good are so hard to find

why are there so many for /4 but not that many for /2

[round swift]

It's almost like the MP4/4 is the most hypebeast F1 car

[bright umbra]

I know, but the /2 just looks better

[round swift]

idk which variant i prefer, the 2B or 2C

[bright umbra]

I love both

I just want high quality images for both

[jolly ravine]

[bright umbra]

please don't spam emotes

[oblique dock]

De Cesaris

[round swift]

first driver hired for the new Ron Dennis McLaren, not their best bet lol

[oblique dock]

Just seems weird seeing De Cesaris in a Mclaren

[round swift]

think he was just there because he was a Philip Morris protégé

[oblique dock]

If Mclaren were to sign a driver other than De Cesaris, I think they should have re-signed Patrick Tambay

even though my first pick was Derek Warwick, despite the fact that 1981 was his rookie year.

[round swift]

https://youtu.be/DVUSwhFEN3c

I never really got Senna Fever, but this...?

It's so sketch

[copper cairn]

Mario Andretti

[red cloud]

why does that mclaren look so good😩

[red cloud]

sheeeeesh🥶

[round swift]

the 1982 cars are an original take on beauty and proportions

[jaunty turtle]

I like this era alot

Lauda vs Hunt

[steel lance]

that airbox oof

[jolly idol]

[potent crypt]

last season

[jolly idol]

ah,James Hunt.

[oblique dock]

Wolf Racing

[potent crypt]

yep 1979

RIP

[round swift]

am i the only one who thinks the rb16b is stunning?

[balmy canopy]

it looks amazing

way better than the rb16

[frigid sundial]

this is #classic-motorsport sir

[bright umbra]

e, the second image is a rb14 with the 16b livery and yes this is #classic-motorsport

[wide falcon]

What car is that?

[round swift]

that'd be the 1973 Brabham

the first of Gordon Murray

[wide falcon]

Thank you kind sir

[potent crypt]

nope

that was scuderia finotto team

1974

[round swift]

Yes, and?

They're still entering a brabham bt42 that was designed in 73

Granted, it wasn't in 73 that the pic was taken

[potent crypt]

lol i just found out now

[potent crypt]

i think the pic was taken 1974

because the driver of the car is Helmut Koenigg

Japanese team

[round swift]

Is it token? Think one of the early japanese privateer was called that

[oblique dock]

Maki.

Token was British, I think.

[potent crypt]

Maki engineering

the worst F1 team?

[oblique dock]

Andrea Moda: Am I a joke to you?

[potent crypt]

Maki Results

[round swift]

You're right, i was thinking about Kojoma actually

[oblique dock]

Still. At least they didn't have a team principal who wanted to sabotage one of his drivers through outrageous tactics

[oblique dock]

Kojima?

[round swift]

Both took part in the 76 japanese gp

Yes I can't type on mobile lol

[potent crypt]

kojima bruh

[potent crypt]

lol

[oblique dock]

KE007

[potent crypt]

is that merzario?

[oblique dock]

In the wolf or the Kojima?

[round swift]

I like this full black livery

[potent crypt]

Kojima

[oblique dock]

I think it might be Masahiro Hasemi

[oblique dock]

Yep, definitely Hasemi.

[potent crypt]

still cool

[oblique dock]

yeah

[potent crypt]

F5A

[round swift]

There's a dude who entered a private Tyrrell 007 in that 76 japanese gp, and he was 3rd before he hit reliability issues. He could have won thay race or maybe put Hunt out of title winning position

[potent crypt]

a mistake he made this team lol

[round swift]

Hoshino Kazuyoshi

[oblique dock]

A damn good driver.

[potent crypt]

yeah

true japanese driver

[oblique dock]

1992 Daytona 24 Hours
1990 JTCC Title

[round swift]

Not bad

[potent crypt]

unfortunately his career was short

[round swift]

Imagine if Japanese drivers went racing in europe sooner

We've probably missed a couple gems

[oblique dock]

Well Masanori Sekiya was the first Japanese driver to win Le mans, followed by Seiji Ara.

[potent crypt]

Still remember taki inoue lol

[oblique dock]

Yuji Ide as well

A driver that can make Mazepin look like Jim Clark

[potent crypt]

he did'nt entered full season in 2006 right?

[oblique dock]

Had his superlicense revoked after imola

[potent crypt]

who replace him ?

in 06

[round swift]

Davidson?

or Yamamoto

[oblique dock]

Franck Montagny I think

[round swift]

they had lots of drivers in 2006, forgot who all of them were

just Sato stayed till the end

[potent crypt]

Does Scuderia Coloni really use a Subaru machine?

[oblique dock]

They did in 1990.

[round swift]

both Minardi and Coloni tested it

Was kinda cringe

[oblique dock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-yWPtEFst4&t=0s

[round swift]

Ooooh I haven't seen this one

Wow that's Crackly as all balls

[oblique dock]

Engine sounds more unhealthier than a smoker's lungs.

[round swift]

Bro it's an engine, not a fuel pump

It's definitely a fuel pump lol

Subari just paid, it was Carlo Chiti of Motori Moderni who designed this shit afaik

He was responsible for the Alfa turbos of the 80s

In the end his best design was the Ferrari 156 of 1961

Mmmmm

He was probably relying on outdated ideas for that flat-12 or boxer-12 or whatever the Subaru engine was

Yes, the very good Alfa Romeo Turbo V8

Yes, very good

B12 was the Superboob

My name is Carlos Chiti and I've never heard of electronic injection or lightweight alloys

My name's Carlo Cheaty and my A:F is rich and my timing is uh... The slow name I can't say

[oblique dock]

My name is Ernesto Vita, and my car is slower than F3000 machinery

[strange flame]

life f1 team flashbacks

[twilit torrent]

Initially I thought this had high/opposite contrast for some reason. Maybe the barriers and the car colors

[weak ridge]

US Grand Prix West start crash (1977)

[copper cairn]

[deft prawn]

and then some people want Long Beach back in current F1

[weak ridge]

well that was a different layout

and even then Long Beach wasnt dangerous

judging from the picture that crash was due to driver error

or he got squeezed

[round swift]

Start: Lauda and Andretti start slowly. Scheckter appears on the right and overwhelms them almost immediately. Fourth, Reutemann brakes far too late and drives into the escape road. Hunt tries to squeeze between Laffite and Watson but he is far too optimistic: his McLaren rubs the wall before taking off on the Brabham and falling heavily. In the carnage, Brambilla hits the wall on the right, while Mass and Peterson meet Reutemann in the escape road.

[deft prawn]

So basically it was a mess

[weak ridge]

James Hunt was allegedly pushed from behind, though no one knows for sure, and when he hit John Watson's right rear wheel with his left front, he was launched six feet in the air, showing Watson the entire underside of his McLaren. On landing, he slid past Reutemann and down the escape road. Hunt was able to make it back to the pits, and though his suspension was bent, he carried on, and ended up missing a point for sixth by just two seconds.

pretty interesting

[topaz horizon]

Hey

[sharp orbit]

@last goblet Can you not 🙂

[round swift]

Fun Fact: In 1992, race distance equalled about 306.83km and 93.74 minutes

If this means they all used 215L Fuel Bladders of E10 Fuel, that means a Fuel useage of 103.5kg/hour

Or equal to 70.1L/100km, 4.03UK mpg, or 3.36US mpg

And they said these were thirsty bro

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cn6JtwNUkAkbR13.jpg

https://i.redd.it/yt5hfz5ujjw11.jpg

[round swift]

What would be the fuel consumption in 2021

[round swift]

If race average is again around 90 minutes, with a 110kg fuel cell, that's 73.333kg/hr

[copper cairn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/600157465816072213/840432256794492948/9058b6c9218dc45e135a82b09553b646.png

[plain wedge]

What’s your favorite classic F1 car?

In terms of looks

[copper cairn]

This

Ferrari 412 T2

[round swift]

Oooh this one's tricky

Coz I have a couple

[steel lance]

Thats more than a couple sirr

[round swift]

Yeaaaah

[copper cairn]

I thought it was the favorite car, but you can choose several :<

more of my favorites

[round swift]

Oiiii... Lotus 109 Mugens les go

I really wanna know how much that final spec MF351-H made in 1994

[copper cairn]

It is unfortunate to see how the economic crisis at Lotus did not allow them to continue developing

They had good rookies

[plain wedge]

I like the 641

[round swift]

641/2 looks more polished

Definite looker doe

I really wanna say I like em but they just don't have the smooth nose that the 643 had

But I prefer the longer sidepods

[short glade]

mm #f1-hq-photos-and-videos

[leaden shard]

I like the 412 T2 song

[potent crypt]

Favorite team lol

[oblique dock]

BMS Scuderia Italia

[potent crypt]

yep

[smoky crow]

Marlboro goated fr

[wide falcon]

Lung cancer goated fr

[deft prawn]

Ah yes the greatest safety barrier ever

Haybales

[copper cairn]

\o/

[desert estuary]

that's not how to use a car sir

[round swift]

NAH s'fine

He finished the race

[copper cairn]

Monkey flip intensifies

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/600157465816072213/841474295050141706/7cf6938f1bbba0f01f32b45a589ef445.png

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/600157465816072213/841474427107278848/a176635246be36a400528aab640fe45f.png

[oblique dock]

RIP Bellof

[copper cairn]

[weak ridge]

is this monza?

[round swift]

Monza 1985?

[weak ridge]

thanks

oh I finally used my brain

monza 1984 but you got me the answer basically

[round swift]

it's Cheever in an Alfa Romeo

[weak ridge]

ty

[round swift]

so either 84 or 85 ye

[round swift]

Gimmie the Tunnels

[oblique dock]

"I'm speaking to you now from inside one of the venturi tunnels!"

-Jeremy Clarkson

[round swift]

I Don't remember that one

[oblique dock]

It's from this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vE_WqdKbTvY

1:07

[round swift]

O

[round swift]

... What?

[verbal blade]

that's not a classical f1 picture

and second

wtf is up with Massa's hair

[oblique dock]

wrong classic channel

[copper cairn]

Bruh

Sorry 😅

[oblique dock]

The moment Lauda relinquished the 1976 title...

[digital echo]

https://i.redd.it/o8h29fonzmp21.png

[copper cairn]

[graceful crystal]

Tfw didn't remove rothmans logo

[copper cairn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/600157465816072213/841843009103462410/03386fe67e293e838273b08e820e3e63.png

[thick cave]

yes

[icy veldt]

One of my favourite photographs from a time gone by

[hollow yew]

Is that Claire?

[icy veldt]

Her mom

Lady Virginia Williams

This is just after Frank's accident

[hollow yew]

Woow the similarities

[icy veldt]

They won the constructors

Ikr

[hollow yew]

Yea I remember watching a vid of her

[icy veldt]

She never got the credit she deserved

Frank was dismal at team management

It was all her money

That went in

He put his act together later when his older F1 team fired him

[hollow yew]

Well things turned out for good

[icy veldt]

Well for a while XD
But yeah it's David v Goliath for em

Going up against McLaren and Ferrari as a private team

[hollow yew]

And then becoming one of the best

Damb their downfall hits hard knowing their history

[icy veldt]

Yeah, you put a gun to my head and tell me to choose a favourite team, I'd prolly say Williams

[hollow yew]

Well that's good xD

[rugged silo]

not technically F1, because it didn't exist yet, but the Monaco Grand Prix, 1934

[balmy canopy]

coffin racing 1

[void scarab]

And absolute badass

[round swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bu_t8QC7uZY
ft. Andretti in a Williams

[potent crypt]

The hero

[oblique dock]

RIP Francois Cevert

[potent crypt]

RIP

One of the very talented driver

[oblique dock]

P3 in the WDC in his second season, not to mention very consistent points finishes in his final year in F1

Very talented indeed.

[potent crypt]

Unfortunately career must end because of a crash

[potent crypt]

Agree

With Jackie

[copper cairn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/600157465816072213/842732730353057792/44d3c7c621b82e902991b3b9a241cf3e.jpg

[oblique dock]

I always wondered why and how the MP4/6's air intake was like that in that particular photo

[round swift]

Same

it's just placed there, not tightened or anything

[indigo sail]

Michele

[wide falcon]

Obama

[round swift]

what year was this?

[round swift]

My guess? 1994

Wait 1993 with the BMS Minardis

he was still with Minardi in 94 wasn't he

WAIT 1994

I got thrown off by the google search

Looks very nice

Despite being slow

Fun fact, it was the first car with undercut sidepods

Oh ye? Neat. Aldo Costa made this didn't he?

These puppies

Very small for the time but

Mercatone Uno
Marco Pantaniiii

Interesting

Ye, Aldo Costa and Gustav Brunner

they really had a solid team of engineers in the early 90s, shame results didn't follow

with Michele Alboreto and Pierluigi Martini in 94

Well it's thr same with Ross Brawn for HAAS-Lola

Or Adrian Newey for March

Newey had joined Haas in 86 shortly before they folded

imagine a team with Brawn and Newey as designers

Well it kinda was for a tad

sad it folded like 3 months after

i mean, they also were the only team hgaving the Ford turbo engine

so they could have become what Benetton became

[oblique dock]

Elio de Angelis, 1985

[round swift]

That silhouette is so F1

[round swift]

The colours of film photography is just Impressive

[round swift]

Oh I always prefer film camera shots

[potent crypt]

Who is that?

[copper cairn]

Derek Daly

Austrian GP, 1978

[oblique dock]

Sylvester Stallone, 1990.

[copper cairn]

Joe Tanto*

[oblique dock]

[round swift]

.raggazi

.friday then

[oblique dock]

RAM

[copper cairn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/600157465816072213/843663613654728755/Screenshot_20210516-1150442.png

[bright umbra]

classic is supposed to be wholesome pre-2001 images, not bot commands and shitposting gifs and stupid memes smh

[timber warren]

Fittipaldi Nürburgring 1971

[balmy canopy]

mmmmmmm

6 wheels

[round swift]

That's an F5000, isn't it?

[lethal ferry]

goodmorning

[round swift]

Ya

Eddie Irvines 1996 car if I remember

97

damnit

no it has grooves tyres

so...

it's literally my pfp how did I get it wrong

probs 99

ye 99, the year he finished runner up

Poor guy only got one win

who

Irvine

Or I'm being stupid about the one guy who was an F1 driver from my country

hmm he won Australia, Malaysia and maybe Germany as well?

and Austria

Were those not class wins?

in F1?

I'm stupid ok lemme get Google

https://www.statsf1.com/en/1999.aspx

I was reading the le man's thing oh my god I am fucking stupid

Yeah he got 4 F1 wins

hihi

And this channel is one I will now permanently avoid

also you say he's the one guy who was an F1 driver from your country

which is? Ulaidh, Ireland?

Northern Ireland

ok

By birth anyway

John Watson won more races

and he's from Belfast

[graceful crystal]

the main man watson

[round swift]

dat beard he had

[bright umbra]

Watson definition of cool

so cool that he won a race from 22nd

[round swift]

Oh come on I can't even recognize my own countries drivers

didn't know Penske tried the same kind of front wing as Ferrari initially

only for the 76 swedish gp, it sucked

[oblique dock]

Watson subbing for Lauda in 1985

[bright umbra]

penske is the definition of I will put my fingers in all possible pies

[round swift]

well they managed to win a race with their car

[oblique dock]

Watson shaved his beard after winning with Penske at the Austrian(?) GP

[round swift]

yes

he made a bet with Roger Penske

I don’t mind this colour for Marlboro

"light"

Yellow is light sorta

Still looks sick

no it was for Malboro light ciggies

Yeah

Ik

shame it was like a one off

Ya ikr

[copper cairn]

😎

[oblique dock]

Harald Ertl: Am I a joke to you?

[graceful crystal]

I want an f1 movie where Liam Neeson plays watson

[round swift]

ye it'd fit very well

sadly i'm not sure he's the best character to make a movie of

Both look like Jimmy Broadbent but has a beard

didn't notice but true lol

Jenson Button has no match with these two bearded men.

[true junco]

https://c.tenor.com/jUftZszhxUgAAAAM/rush-daniel-brühl.gif
https://c.tenor.com/WTfkEIJnK5sAAAAM/niki-lauda-ferrari.gif
https://media0.giphy.com/media/zu1AaqdB5LBks/200.gif

https://64.media.tumblr.com/dcc3e8a087ec542f9e7979cf7b6d3532/tumblr_prxhpdY8HQ1t3hz7k_400.gifv
https://i.pinimg.com/originals/66/64/01/666401f10917c010c27990e84c2463c6.gif
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/IdealSpiritedCaiman-max-1mb.gif
https://media3.giphy.com/media/lfFn6fVjfeFTG/200w.gif
https://hips.hearstapps.com/autoweek/assets/s3fs-public/RedBullCrash.gif?crop=1xw:0.9009009009009009xh;center,top&resize=300:*

[round swift]

Ah Yes the Shitbox Scene

[round swift]

How is the Baku 2018 race classic

[hollow crag]

https://tenor.com/view/vintage-f1-ferrari-slide-drift-gif-4843043

[snow plover]

back end go brr

[snow plover]

is that recolorized or is that historic monaco

[copper cairn]

Recolorized

[red cloud]

[steel lance]

is that Gilles?

[round swift]

Of course

[molten vigil]

wow

https://tenor.com/view/f1-destroyed-wrecked-wheels-gif-5316419

[short glade]

how is buemi suspension dying classic

[oblique dock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDfQBI4CwjM

[forest socket]

I don't like the nose of this Jordan

[round swift]

which one

[short glade]

8.1 seconds slower than coulthard jesus

[round swift]

last car with a manual gearbox iirc

[oblique dock]

yes it is.

I bet an F3000 car from the same era can lap Monza quicker than that Forti

[short glade]

jesus

u need at least some money to get a semi auto gearbox

[round swift]

Yes

But they were all basically standard for everyone else by 1993/1994, even in IndyCar

[icy veldt]

Jackie is associated with smooth driving and taking care of the car. But why was he often seen driving with full opposite lock?

Another

[round swift]

It's almost like cars before the turbo era were not making enough downforce and mono-directional grip to hold a full straight line

[icy veldt]

Yeah I'm inclined to agree

Makes me fear what pushing the limits of those cars would result in

Because if Jackie was smooth, but had to hold the car by the scruff of it's neck

....

Dunno what dimension Schechter, Senna or Clay drove in

[round swift]

That is pushing the limits of the car

[copper cairn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/600157465816072213/844777247596478470/e04d7284a6c8bd782b3a826dcb38e172.png

[oblique dock]

Woah

is this from 1984?

(also, very interesting methods by Ferrari for experimenting with the aerodynamics.)

[true junco]

Das be like

https://c.tenor.com/TxIuOYAPABQAAAAM/alliot-piquet.gif
https://c.tenor.com/_OrEcpxAD9sAAAAM/kubica-f1.gif
https://c.tenor.com/0zkvlY--dhQAAAAM/formula-formula1.gif
https://c.tenor.com/o9oQIkAyBS4AAAAM/michael-schumacher-formula1.gif

[bright umbra]

mate

this is #classic-motorsport

like 3 of those don't even belong here

[round swift]

F1 Bus 😎

[true junco]

https://c.tenor.com/y1jhnl3pk0YAAAAM/vintage-f1.gif

[round swift]

You posted 4 gifs in one message and none fit the channel, not bad

[wide falcon]

Why is he just posting random gifs

[plain totem]

Hit A ferrai NIKI Its A shitbox

[oblique dock]

Lola LC90

[short glade]

mm early 90s backmarker shitboxes

[oblique dock]

(even though it clinched P3 at Suzuka, which was the best result for the Lamborghini 3512)

[short glade]

(oh then this was not a shitbox then)

[oblique dock]

Eh, it only captured just a few points positions and managed to finish 6th behind Tyrrell in the 1990 WCC

[short glade]

ok so its a midfield team

[oblique dock]

yeah

[plain totem]

F1 Hitbox Last Year

This Is Why They where bad first

This Is Last Years Mercedes wheel

And This Is There Streeing wheel

[round swift]

Wrong channel

This channel is for stuff before 2001

[icy veldt]

Louis Chiron in the Bugatti T51

[copper cairn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/600157465816072213/845416630351560794/92dff0eda41fb67d136831a4b911b9f4.png

[oblique dock]

Isn't that the Osella FA1L?

[copper cairn]

Yesir

With Nicola Larini

[short glade]

was this in 1988 or using the outdated 1988 design in 89/90

[short glade]

for dis

[copper cairn]

1988

[oblique dock]

At least the car looks good, considering how its name spoke very well for itself.

[bright umbra]

That jordan was hot

Spa 1998?

[round swift]

would be 99 as it seems to be Frentzen

[bright umbra]

ahh yeah

and schumacher is in the williams

[oblique dock]

1999 was PRIME Jordan

[copper cairn]

That was at the French GP, the magical victory for Frentzen?

[fathom oxide]

Yes, indeed. Fuel mileage played a part in that win.

[copper cairn]

https://twitter.com/Basso488/status/1396268995582611456?s=19

Andrew (@Basso488)

Alberto Ascari removing his Rookie Stripes @ Indianapolis, 1952.

Twitter · May 23, 2021, 12:57 AM

[short glade]

thats at least from the 60s

[round swift]

no its older

[short glade]

cooper had a mid mounted engine by like 57 i think

[round swift]

first race was in the 1930s (non-championship)

[short glade]

that

is not from 1930

[round swift]

where do you see a mid mounted engine

[short glade]

uh

somewhere

[round swift]

Lookit the Number 6's exhaust? Or any of these cars' proportions?

you have a point. i think this isn't F1

btw this is the picture

https://twitter.com/F1/status/1396403027028811779

Formula 1 (@F1)

How it started...

📍 Monaco
🗓 21 May, 1950

#MonacoGP 🇲🇨 #F1

Retweets

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10961

Twitter · May 23, 2021, 9:50 AM

unless...

no that's probably just not F1

the cars look way too frail for F1, even when they had switched to mid mounted engines

[desert estuary]

https://youtu.be/_QAlca82Ky4

[oblique dock]

The first Honda V6T powered car in F1

[short glade]

damnn

[round swift]

Had he hit the wall at a slightly different angle he probably would have risen unhurt from his car

[weak ridge]

how come

also that illustration is sick

[hollow mason]

the tyre hit his head it had nothing to do abt what angle

[hollow yew]

Looked like a hover bike at first glance

[round swift]

... Uhm chief, that means it had everything to do with angle

[hollow mason]

opps

yea

[toxic rivet]

if only wheel tethers were used in 1994

[lyric lake]

uhh
i have a question
the Marboro livery
it was McLaren's livery right?

[round swift]

They started with BRM

Then they also put an extremely similar livery on the Alfa Romeo

[lyric lake]

so, McLaren and Alfa had similar liveries
and McLaren was known as BRM at that time?

[round swift]

No

They're different teams

[lyric lake]

oh

[lyric lake]

so what name did McLaren go with?

which one of these was mclaren?
and I don't see Ferrari too
this is confusing af for me

[round swift]

Well, both of them are still around

[lyric lake]

yeah I do know that
but what name did they go with earlier

[round swift]

What I'm saying is:
Marlboro sponsored BRM between 1972 and 1973
Marlboro sponsored McLaren between 1974 and 1996
Marlboro sponsored Alfa Romeo between 1980 and 1983

McLaren is the name of the founderz it never changed

[lyric lake]

oh

thanks btw!!

[round swift]

McLaren and Ferrari aren't on that list because McLaren and Ferrari are still very much a thing and never changed their names

[round swift]

Lmao

That’s like a cardboard box

The Evolution is insane

I'm happy F1 went to long tubs

You don't like drivers having their legs turned into steak in case of an accident?

[round swift]

Huh, I guess I never really thought about it before, but now you make me think of it, no

[void scarab]

80s and 90s are like my favorite f1 cars

early 2000s also with the V10s

v8s are ehhh

[round swift]

V8's sounded nice in 2006 when they were initially introduced

and in 2007/8 when they had the 19,000rpm rev caps

But when it went to 18,000? I sleep, it's a weird noise zone

ye 2006 V8s sounded nice

Below 17,000, cash money. Above 18,000? Cash money

Like CART V8's at 16 are bliss

[oblique dock]

Speaking of 2006, Remember the STR1?

[round swift]

didn't know they had a rev cap as soon as 2007m, thought it was 2009 for some reasons

In 2006 it was still uncapped, so we had like 20,000rpm and a bit V8's

In 2007 they moved to a 19,000rpm cap

[round swift]

The 16,700rpm boi that needed more revs oof?

[void scarab]

yeah agreed

[void scarab]

yeah CART is like one of my all time favorite race cars

the late 90s ones

[round swift]

2000 Hehe

[oblique dock]

yes

[round swift]

https://youtu.be/yqFL49HW198

I know this isn't classic bt

Oh boi

which one went to 20k rpm

[oblique dock]

The williams

[round swift]

It wouldn't've been throughout the early season but

the Cosworth? alright

BMW and Cosworth were really on the rev game

it sounds very nice at 19k in this video

[oblique dock]

wait... didn't Toro Rosso use the Cosworth V10 because of financial issues or something?

[round swift]

Well they were allowed to for 2006 and 2007 if teams weren't as funded, yea

But Red Bull took the cop out way and just used the car they already had

[round swift]

this was the best sounding f1 engine. sorry it sounds better than the v10s..

V12's can be pretty hit or miss with me

Whereas I've never heard a bad sounding V10

[plain totem]

That look canna sus

[round swift]

What?

[plain totem]

1955-1994

r.ip

[round swift]

... What happened in that time specifically?

And how does that pertain to V10's?

[bright umbra]

that is quite a wide timeline, some parts of which didn't even have V10s

frankly, most of it didn't

[round swift]

Even if he meant V12's that isn't true either

[agile surge]

What engines did they use in the 1956 era

[oblique dock]

Probably V12's, V8's, I8's, I6's and I4's (which included the Offenhauser engine, cause the Indy 500 was a F1 world championship event at the time.)

[round swift]

inline 4s, inline 6s, inline 8s, v12s, v8s

Huh... No V12's in 1956

for... F1 cars that is

[agile surge]

They used V12s?

Really?

Wouldn’t that be expensive af

[round swift]

Ferrari

[bright umbra]

I mean, didn't they run like V16s or some shit?

[round swift]

not in this time period

the Ferrari 375S with a V12 was engaged in the 1956 Indy 500

[oblique dock]

Didn't Ferrari use the Lancia D50's during 1956?

[round swift]

... the other way around

The Lancia D50 was just used by Ferrari after Lancia went nawh

Yeah so in 1950-1951 is when the Voiturette 4.5L/1.5L class was a thing

"fun" thing about the Lancia D50, Alberto Ascari ended his GP career on this car. In the Monaco harbour

[agile surge]

Where all the millionaires watch from

[round swift]

So you had the BRM Type.15 V16 car, the Ferrari 375 4.5L N/A V12, and the Alfetta's 1.5L Straight 8

[oblique dock]

Don't forget Maserati's Inline 6 with the 250F

[round swift]

I will forget it as i6's aren't interesting enough

i think BRM initially entered with nazi "borrowed" technology
and they were bad.

Well, yes, kinda

The BRM and MG cars of the time were very much based around the framework that Mercedes had set up

the grand prix technology was part of the UK's spoils of war

But in this case we had a 135°V16 with a Rolls-royce Centrifugal Supercharger, rather than like an Auto Union 45°V16 at 6,008cc with one or two Roots blowers

Brittania rules the waves

Until it didn't coz Mercedes and Audi still very much exist

yeah 😛

although idk if Audi was still big then

Whereas BRM are basically dead and Mg are Chinese

Although

BRM isn't literally dead?

https://youtu.be/BHNiIovzUG8

Although

[bright umbra]

the sounds here

are eargasm

[round swift]

hmmmm

Bro it's not even at the 12,000

[bright umbra]

though I do not understand why they called their channel British Racing Motors BRM

[round swift]

The V16's noise is next level because you basically have the best of both worlds from the Cross-Plane and Flat-Plane and then they also resonate with eachother

it's the goodness of a V8, but double

Essentially

Also fun fact

Just due to evolution of technology and tolerances, the V16 can make the 600hp figure with only 2.5psi of boost

As opposed to like 84

Oh wait 550hp with 2.5

Oof

[shrewd wigeon]

I have a question, what was Formula 3000? Was it like f2?

[short glade]

yes

it was f2 back in the day

then it changed into gp2 in like 2005 or something

[lyric lake]

hot

marboro liveries are the best

I want em

back

[split reef]

geepee2 enjine, geepee2. AARRGGHHH!

[agile surge]

Nokia f1

[bright umbra]

the most reliable f1 team?

FONDMETAL

[agile surge]

Nokia F1 be like

[agile surge]

Ah yes the Durex car

[bright umbra]

that car could go into any gap

[oblique dock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k5XFdMtfyG4

[copper cairn]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/600157465816072213/847197097681223680/Screenshot_20210525-2027412.png

[ashen estuary]

Heh

[jolly iron]

[lyric lake]

lmao

[round swift]

Streiff scored his only podium in that 85 Ligier

[oblique dock]

Didn't he score that podium in Adelaide whilst on 3 wheels?

[round swift]

Yes he crashed with his teammate in the last lap while trying to overtake him for 2nd

[oblique dock]

I think I remember Guy Ligier getting pissed because of this since they could have had a chance at getting a race win or something

[round swift]

Nah they were more than 40s behind Rosberg who won

[jolly idol]

when x-wings existed

[forest socket]

the famous X-Wing

[round swift]

Hi guys

Hamilton is the best

[agile surge]

Uh this is for classic f1, maybe head for #formula-1 :D

[round swift]

i remember x wings

[oblique dock]

finding new ways to increase downforce in order to make up for the loss of grip in the grooved tires

(by using old front wings of course!)

[round swift]

Well that was the OG idea by Tyrrell, I assume the others made more bespoke means

[copper cairn]

That's livery is insane

[oblique dock]

All hail Taki Inoue!

[copper cairn]

🤸‍♂️ 🏎️

[oblique dock]

🤸 🚑

[round swift]

I love this

[split reef]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/797551517107224606/819369118058414110/unknown.png

yes

[jolly iron]

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/82/93/1f/82931fb28da936855a5570def04eafc3.jpg

[lyric lake]

is that James Hunt?

idk

I just made a wild guess

[round swift]

No

[lyric lake]

oh

[round swift]

That's Arturo Merzario

[jolly iron]

dunno

[jolly idol]

never forget when they get stacked!

[short glade]

ow

[jolly idol]

Michael: nu e lost wheel

[swift bramble]

it'll buff out

[short glade]

yea

[short glade]

mm spa 99

[jolly idol]

how David can caught up almost all of the drivers

[short glade]

carnage

[jolly idol]

98*

i think

[round swift]

yes 98

[swift bramble]

how many actually finished that race or did they have backups

[short glade]

oh

[short glade]

they had backup cars

[jolly idol]

backups for sure

or you can say

there is a T-Car (spare car)

[icy veldt]

Lol DC was such a meme that weekend. he was involved in that start crash, took out alex wurtz on the restart, involved with Schumi (not 100% blaming him), then they sent him out to get a point which he didnt

[oblique dock]

poor DC

[jolly idol]

Poor DC

[round swift]

"thats the worst start to a grand prix i have ever seen"

[fathom oxide]

“Oh, carnage everywhere!” - Derek Daly during Speedvision’s broadcast of that race.

[fathom oxide]

Actually, I think Wurz punted DC off, which damaged his left front suspension.

[jolly idol]

"in a whole of my life!"

[round swift]

who commentated that again?

[jolly idol]

Murray

with Brundle

(i think)

[round swift]

murray was a very good commentator

[vapid minnow]

I LIKED HIS VOICE

[round swift]

same

[vapid minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/ayrton-senna-brazil-race-formula1-gif-19352632

THIS GUY IS MY FAV

[jolly idol]

he is very good at doing some dramatic moment

[round swift]

senna

the goat

[vapid minnow]

HES NOT A GOAT

[jolly idol]

[vapid minnow]

HE IS A SPEED MASTER

[jolly idol]

Oh.......

[round swift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyxHt7ijo6Q

[north sand]

Congrats @round swift, you're now on lap 5

[vapid minnow]

!LAP

?LAP

[round swift]

watch the first minute of this

it will show the spa race start in 98

[jolly idol]

#botspam

James Allen is also a very good comentator

[round swift]

who is that again?

[jolly idol]

it is thats Glock!

oh my goodness me! Hamilton is back on the position again!

thats Allen

[round swift]

the guy who commented the start of races in the 2005-06-07-08 season "we are racing at...."

[vapid minnow]

MURRAY WALKER TOLD THAT MCLAREN FERRARI CRASH WAS AMAZING

[round swift]

is good

oh him

[round swift]

thats james allen

he commentated japan 2005

that was an intense race

"and its..... GOOOOOO"

[jolly idol]

uh....

[round swift]

"we are racing at..."

[jolly idol]

i think we can go at #formula-1 ?

[round swift]

kk

[jolly idol]

bc....we are above 2001

[inland dock]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-hi-there-greetings-gif-9442662

[last goblet]

no a goat

[round swift]

https://tenor.com/view/general-kenobi-turn-around-star-wars-gif-15335963

I cannot wait for these continuation cars

[white ether]

The beauty of pre-war/50's F1 hits really different tbh...

[misty mason]

!lap

!LAP

[oblique dock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bwMWQv08UBo

1987 F1 Team Radio

[round swift]

Have an Ilmor 2175

[oblique dock]

Wasn't that used by Leyton House in the early 1990's?

[round swift]

Leyton-House March, Sauber, and Brabham

[oblique dock]

I don't remember Brabham using ilmor engines

[round swift]

Wait

Brabham used JUDD

Who else used Ilmors?

[round swift]

TYRRELL

1992

That 3.5 B12 not bussin

PACIFIC

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

YES

[potent tendon]

Bertrand Gachot!

[timber warren]

Senna Brazil 1991

[copper cairn]

Leslie

[oblique dock]

March 2-4-0

[round swift]

Good times

[true junco]

https://c.tenor.com/79qeI5XhQ-0AAAAM/fernando-alonso-formel1.gif
https://c.tenor.com/nziRtNLpJ28AAAAM/f1.gif
https://c.tenor.com/_GENZZl_6AMAAAAM/formula1-f1.gif

[round swift]

guys, before 2001!

[silent igloo]

who is in the car?

[round swift]

Idk

[silent igloo]

ok

[round swift]

On this day 37 years ago Senna arrived on the world stage

[sullen osprey]

Spa is the most aesthetically pleasing track ngl

[forest coyote]

always will be

[edgy tree]

Spa has always been my Old man’s favorite track that’s where my parents went on their honeymoon

[fathom oxide]

Did they get to go to a race while there?

[white ether]

Spa really resonates the Elevation of a race track

Just like its famous corners

[round swift]

https://youtu.be/8h4EBDn5Hg0

[oblique dock]

Never knew Andretti tested the MP4/5B apart from the MP4/7A

Apparently, this photo was taken in 1991

https://twitter.com/1990sf1/status/1094700407291604993

F1 in the 1990s 🚦🏎🏁🏆🍾 (@1990sF1)

American IndyCar star Michael Andretti tests the 1990 Marlboro McLaren-Honda MP4/5B at Estoril, his first ever test in an F1 car. February 1991. #F1

Likes

215

Twitter · Feb 10, 2019, 8:51 PM

[copper cairn]

[oblique dock]

But wait, there's more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ejsu1ybMLxA

6:54 and 5:07

[copper cairn]

Too bad Andretti got in after the McLaren boom

[round swift]

the McLaren boom?

[oblique dock]

I think he's referring to when Honda left Mclaren, not to mention Mclaren's winning streak being broken in 1992 by Williams

[edgy tree]

Yes they did it was 1995

[round swift]

I think Michael would've done better without all the Traction assists

[white ether]

Michael Andretti was the driver at the right place in the wrong time

Man could've man handled and par with Senna if he was given a car with little tech

[oblique dock]

Shame he got sacked after scoring P3 at Monza

Just as he was gaining traction, Mclaren said, "yyyeah.... we'll just stick with Hakkinen."