Senna was for sure the best driver of the 4 but just did not have the luck
#classic-motorsport
frozen prism
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Senna was only one point ahead of his teammate
frozen prism
he retired 2-3 times out of the lead iirc
so basically most of his finishes were on the podium
which is actually pretty impressive
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The 1992 Mclaren was the worst mclaren
frozen prism
actually Renault and Williams were the quicker car in 91
but were still unreliable
and Senna was super quick that season
frozen prism
yeah but a bunch of its tech gizmos were also unreliable
Mansell didnt score any points in the first 3 races iirc
Senna won the first 4 races
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Yeah also the 1991 had a semi automatic transmission too
Instead of the manual
Or was that the 1992 season
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1990 Ferrari had a semi
frozen prism
cause their gearbox was unreliable as well
frozen prism
1990 Ferrari had a semi
89 was the first one with a semi-auto I think
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Ah ok
frozen prism
but Mansell complained of how unreliable it was
he even threatened to retire I think at the end of 1990
before Frank persuaded him to go back to Williams
frozen prism
i dont think he threatened
rather he took a sabbatical to have a chance at a competitive seat
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Yea
frozen prism
Ferrari misunderstood Prosts words when he called it a truck after he had some damage to the car I think
and assumed he called the car itself a truck
frozen prism
only Ferrari will fire their drivers for a misunderstanding
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Must’ve been terrible
frozen prism
He said it handled like a truck
the comment was when Prost sustained damage to his car
and in the pouring rain
and said the car handled like a truck in those circumstances
frozen prism
either way he was already criticizing the team and the car before that
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“In Japan, the car was like a horrible truck to drive. No pleasure at all. I've underlined the defects of the Ferrari throughout the season, but no-one has listened to a word”.
slow grail
day 91 of f1 first wins
juan pablo montoya - 2001 italian gp
oblique dock
And the podium ceremonies were muted out of respect for the 9/11 attacks
hardy briar
day 91 of f1 first wins
juan pablo montoya - 2001 italian gp
Already into the 2000s, wow
manic reef
day 91 of f1 first wins
juan pablo montoya - 2001 italian gp
Will you finish this thing on #f1-hq-photos-and-videos ?
Or is it another chat
kindred pawn
Any idea who this is
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nop
past drift
DC
long ocean
me?
meager pewter
That looks like a child of David Coulthard and Rami Malek
oblique dock
Since this year marks the 35th anniversary since F1 first raced at Suzuka, Here's an onboard view of what the track looked like back then
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That looks like a child of David Coulthard and Rami Malek
I am not going to unsee this now😭
placid hearth
mansell got past senna coz, rosberg, one lap down blocked senna after that, mansell went on to win his first f1 race. senna ran out of fuel, still bagged p4 tho
north sandBOT
Prost > Senna
wanton prawn
woven remnant
Any idea who this is
Xhaka
idle gale
"Because I am quicker than all of you!"
past drift
That is basically Matra V2
until 1982 i would say
which is interestingly enough when they start to be irrelevant (bar 1985-1986)
past drift
World Drivers Champions won using the number that is the amount of cylinders of the car (e.g. #8 with an 8 cylinder engine)
Note: the drivers numbers are changed at each race before 1974)
1958 - #6 Mike Hawthorn 🇬🇧 (Ferrari 143 V6 2.4L)
1963 - #8 Jim Clark 🇬🇧 (Climax FWMV V8 1.5L)
1975 - #12 Niki Lauda 🇦🇹 (Ferrari 015 F12 3.0L)
1987 - #6 Nelson Piquet 🇧🇷 (Honda RA167E V6 turbo 1.5L)
2016 - #6 Nico Rosberg 🇩🇪 (Mercedes PU106C V6 turbo hybrid 1.6L) (outside the scope of this channel)
oblique dock
Paul Ricard 1986
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👍🏼
woeful rapids
https://twitter.com/FormulaOneWorld/status/1577598618332286977
Those cars were something special
idle gale
The unraced Honda
oblique dock
Would have loved to see it race. It's a shame it was sidelined by Harvey Postlethwaite's unfortunate death
thick lantern
Nicee
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Notice the gear changes
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what about this?
thick lantern
Tbh the 80s-early 90s cars were pretty good looking
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same thing
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In 1988 the Pope visited Ferrari’s workshops and blessed one or more of their current Formula 1 Grand Prix cars.
idle gale
It's still surprising that Jim somehow managed to detect that one of his wheel bearings were about to fail when his team initially thought that his car was faultless until after they had a look at the faulty wheel bearing afterwards
frozen prism
It's still surprising that Jim somehow managed to detect that one of his wheel b...
i mean he was the driver
generally its easier to feel something is wrong within the car when you are the driver
and also jim clark just had like 4 extra senses in his body
umbral canyon
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Yes
fathom oxide
What car is that?
past drift
Zakspeed 861
ivory cave
38 gear changes on the opening lap
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38 gear changes on the opening lap
Every lap
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Every lap is going to have around 38 gear changes
edgy chasm
oblique dock
1995, 2001, and 2002 are the best intros imo
hardy briar
and also jim clark just had like 4 extra senses in his body
That too 😂😂😂
I feel like when Clark got in a car, he didn’t just get into it, he became a part of it
Honestly an incredible driver, one who’s talents we may never see again
oblique dock
and also jim clark just had like 4 extra senses in his body
The first sense is for F1, the second sense is for the Indy 500, the third sense is for F2, and the fourth sense is for touring car racing
idle gale
The absurdities of the 1950s
frozen prism
not really absurd
they were filming onboard footage from fangio in a test track iirc
(this is not the one im referring to btw)
but this is basically a 50 year old fangio in a ferrari at monaco
quiet siren
The absurdities of the 1950s
The good old days, where the words health and safety were not known 😂
rigid goblet
Proust and senna crash
lavish moth
Hey guys, I want to make a project for school about F1 evolution for people who know nothing about F1 for a history class. We're just entering WW2, so it should propably focus on the beggining of F1 till the post-war era, I guess, maybe I'll go till today, depending on how much detail I wanna put into it.
Thoughs? Any tips on what I should focus in terms of eras and in general when explaining the era itself?
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sure
@sour moon apologies for ping but there’s a server link whwre it shouldn’t be
where*
sour moon
Where?
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Hey guys, I want to make a project for school about F1 evolution for people who ...
1950s Juan Manuel Fangio
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Can't forget to mention him
Ascari too
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Ronnie Peterson in the Lotus 72E during the Monaco Grand Prix in 1974. Mr. Peterson took the checkered flag and the first points for Lotus that season.
lavish moth
👍
manic reef
Was Fittipaldi and Peterson teammates or did Peterson replace Fittipaldi?
fleet crypt
The absurdities of the 1950s
🤢
past drift
safe junco
the best car............... and don't lie
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I'm sorry, but I have to disagree
south tree
the best car............... and don't lie
F2002>>>>>>>
F2002 got a podium in every single race it competed in
meager pewter
But it looks worse
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I can’t wait until next year where the F2002 will be allowed in this chat
raven snow
south tree
I can’t wait until next year where the F2002 will be allowed in this chat
Best Ferrari F1 car ever made
past drift
is that the BT-62?
no its the bt 45 of 1976
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Best Ferrari F1 car ever made
Definitely top 5
manic reef
I can’t wait until next year where the F2002 will be allowed in this chat
Well it should be allowed cuz its already been 20 years since it debuted i guess
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Well it should be allowed cuz its already been 20 years since it debuted i guess
the channel title says 🕰️ Anything Formula One before 2002
before>2002
chrome basin
https://live.staticflickr.com/4126/5114596311_41737e01b0_b.jpg
this is cool
past drift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDwH0-WIxIQ
1.5L
V16
around 485 bhp
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFsD9NElDa4 OTD in 1996
round swift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFsD9NElDa4 OTD in 1996
Why did Damon leave Williams? Or did Williams decide not to renew his contract?
I never understood that
frozen prism
Hey guys, I want to make a project for school about F1 evolution for people who ...
firstly focus on technological innovations
and then the drivers
the champions the teams and the whatnot
its important that you dont be too thorough
the 50s can be very confusing though
frozen prism
is that the BT-62?
nope, no Lauda
frozen prism
Why did Damon leave Williams? Or did Williams decide not to renew his contract?
Damon didnt leave Williams
they decided not to sign him in the middle of 1996
when all the top seats were filled by then
and Damons only choice was at Arrows
either because of Frank Williams shenanigans
or his disastrous 95 season
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or his disastrous 95 season
Yeah I remember someone saying that because of his terrible 1995 season, they signed Frentzen at the beginning of the 1996 season.
past drift
and Damons only choice was at Arrows
no he could have gone to McLaren but wanted too much cash
meager pewter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eDwH0-WIxIQ
1.5L
V16
around 485 bhp
Try the new one
There's like a second where there's a distant flyby shot... Aaaugh
past drift
oh thanks!
timber warren
Remember that time in 1937 when they used the left hander Eau Rouge instead of the full Raidillon
Or that time they skipped Raidillon in 1994 for safety reasons
frozen prism
Remember that time in 1937 when they used the left hander Eau Rouge instead of t...
because the straight wasnt there yet
manic reef
Remember that time in 1937 when they used the left hander Eau Rouge instead of t...
oh yea, i remember back when i used to sit next to Fangio in class
timber warren
oh yea, i remember back when i used to sit next to Fangio in class<:cheekytoto:7...
Even further
Rosemeyer?
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1950 yeah
past drift
1950 ain't even an option
because it;s 1946
1950 is the first F1 championship, but the first F1 race was in 1946
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oh bruh
grave ermine
Lol
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Whats the answer of the 4th mcq here<:charles:502567997404217364>
Lewis Carl Davidson Johnson Peters Stinson McKay Hamilton
Lol
timber warren
Whats the answer of the 4th mcq here<:charles:502567997404217364>
1946?
1950 was the first championship
upbeat gate
Ah
brittle portal
Whats the answer of the 4th mcq here<:charles:502567997404217364>
KEKWait i got this paper in school today
grave ermine
KEKWait i got this paper in school today
😂 yeah its the times nie i got that from my little brother
brittle portal
😂
chrome basin
Whats the answer of the 4th mcq here<:charles:502567997404217364>
1950 i think
chrome basin
Whats the answer of the 4th mcq here<:charles:502567997404217364>
q3: charles leclerc max verstappen
frozen prism
Whats the answer of the 4th mcq here<:charles:502567997404217364>
if your talking about the first championship race
then 1950
but non-championship wise its 1946
since it was post-war racing
pre-war racing was not considered formula 1 or linked to it at all
past drift
before that it was called Formula Libre
dire marlin
Folks might appreciate this more in this channel. I saw one of the last few Lauda Air livery planes!
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:O
hardy briar
That car looks very funny
timber warren
Folks might appreciate this more in this channel. I saw one of the last few Laud...
Lauda
quick ginkgo
Where the f2002 sat 20 years ago
past drift
what track is that?
round swift
that was US 05 yes
quick ginkgo
Yeah 05
meager pewter
time to make the Michaelin issue again
hexed elbow
*time to make the Michaelin issue again*
manic reef
huh
south tree
Subaru-Motori Moderni
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Folks might appreciate this more in this channel. I saw one of the last few Laud...
Which airport?
slow grail
damn that's very pre-2002
grave cave
Yes
past drift
for some reasons, few teams picked up on this raised nose in 1991
only Benetton and Dallara
oblique dock
past drift
Dallara picking the budget option, raise the whole wing
which is what McLaren tried as well
guess they didn't like it since they didn't have a raised nose until 95
grave cave
The front wing looks like a plank
past drift
front wings were very simple until 2009 i'd say
grave cave
Yeah
meager pewter
Dallara picking the budget option, raise the whole wing
Damn... Why's my downforce worse?
round swift
front wings were very simple until 2009 i'd say
I’d say around the mid 2000s
chrome basin
this genuinely looks like if a 90s f1 car and a indycar had a baby
manic reef
which is what McLaren tried as well
In this angle it just looks like indycar to me
zealous token
south tree
which is what McLaren tried as well
This reminds me of when I drawed f1 cars when I was 8
Also because it doesn’t even have mirrors
Like a Hot Wheels
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acoustic pewter
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Cool pics
past drift
Last driver to get his first win in the USA
spiral aspen
The fan car
signal flint
Minecraft f1 car
frozen prism
When Alesi basically carried Tyrrell for a season and a half
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and then chose Ferrari over Williams.
frozen prism
and then chose Ferrari over Williams.
i mean to be fair at the time it looked to be a good decision
Ferrari were just runner ups in the 1990 drivers and constructors
and theres also the glory of being a great Ferrari driver
past drift
it did ye
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shell scarab
the best car............... and don't lie
I like some of the older ones better tbh but it still is a beautiful car. That’s saying something because I don’t like/love Ferrari
steady trellis
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silent vortex
I’d say around the mid 2000s
2005?
oblique dock
Yeah. The F2004 and the 248 F1 never had that extension at the bottom
silent vortex
The 2004M or something
i have a model of it and it is called 2005, maybe it was an evolution in 2004 and kept that for 2005
round swift
They raced the 2004M in the first few races in 2005
silent vortex
They raced the 2004M in the first few races in 2005
ah that's why then
the f2004 was fast but not for 2005
they tought it was but it wasn't
round swift
2005 was a bad year for Ferrari because of their Bridgestone tires
oblique dock
Tire regs screwed them over
2005 would have been Ferrari's 1st winless season since 1993, if Indianapolis never went down as it did
frozen prism
the f2004 was fast but not for 2005
it was still quick
just the consequence of having tyres that arent as good as Michelins
past drift
Sweden's finest
south tree
@slow grail so far the first f1 wins series is over. Thank you for doing it anyways
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Name the car
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Where’s that
south tree
Name the car
Minardi m186 at San Marino
south tree
Minardi M186
Great profile picture, JGTC always based
oblique dock
Minardi M186
Wait a minute, that's the M185, not the M186
oblique dock
um
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During the 1968 Großer Preis von Deutschland, Jackie Stewart races the Matra MS10 to victory at the Nürburgring. Many consider it to be the greatest victory in Formula One history. Mr. Stewart won the race by four minutes over Graham Hill despite driving fourteen laps with a broken wrist in rainy and foggy conditions.
hardy briar
During the 1968 Großer Preis von Deutschland, Jackie Stewart races the Matra MS1...
I’ve got to say, the 60s were probably one of the most “Honorary” decades of F1, the 50s were just a little too new for most of them and it hadn’t fully taken form as the greatest motorsport, and after that it has just been the F1 we know, but the 60s were just different, the drivers knew they were putting their lives on the line every single race, more than any other decade if you ask me, and yet they had some of the most incredible triumphs. Hill, Stewart, Clark, all of them absolute legends.
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day 1 of teams first wins: Alfa Romeo, 1950 British GP
lusty ember
lusty ember
My Dad met David Coulthard the same year as that red bull livery
round swift
Is that in Edinburgh?
round swift
What track is this?
lusty ember
Is that in Edinburgh?
yeah it is
oblique dock
What track is this?
Brands Hatch most likely
south tree
What track is this?
Brands Hatch and that picture seems to have been taken in 1970
manic reef
day 1 of teams first wins: Alfa Romeo, 1950 British GP
nice, love seeing these kinds of things
I love history
And F1
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day 3 of teams first wins: benetton, 1986 Mexican GP
ornate cobalt
I'd assume this is in no order?
slow grail
alphabetic
ornate cobalt
ah
slow grail
day 3 of teams first wins: benetton, 1986 Mexican GP
green bmw
biblical
it's also gerhard's first win
ornate cobalt
massive turbo energy
oblique dock
past drift
fun fact, Gerhard's first and last wins are also Benetton's first and last wins.
willow gorge
they had classic f1 cars at cota
dont know if anyone was there
but it was pretty cool
oblique dock
fun fact, Gerhard's first and last wins are also Benetton's first and last wins.
Benetton's last win was also their first and only win under an Italian license
round swift
I'd assume this is in no order?
alphabetic, by every constructor in history
willow gorge
the benetton driver was destroying everyone
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question, should I separate alpine and Renault or nah
willow gorge
until one lotus driver pulled a gr63
slow grail
question, should I separate alpine and Renault or nah
you already answered this by separating benetton
round swift
true
slow grail
how tf did i fuck that up lol
round swift
how did you mix up red bull and Benetton lmao
willow gorge
how did you mix up red bull and Benetton lmao
they both run slicks
past drift
question, should I separate alpine and Renault or nah
technically you should, now it's your rankings 😉
round swift
technically you should, now it's your rankings 😉
alright
plus I’ve already separated alphatauri and toro Rosso
chrome basin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9t4yfHfTfDs
i bet senna would've love to drive in this
past drift
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjpJNykIXFs his car that year wasn't too shabby
it was a lot better tbh, cause more driveable
oblique dock
And more reliable cause Renault engine
past drift
it was indeed quite reliable for the time, helped with the new pneumatic valves (now a standard) that prevents overrevving it
oblique dock
chrome basin
it was a lot better tbh, cause more driveable
true i guess
but still
if gerhard could drive and somehow control that benetton, imagine how senna would've drove it
oblique dock
Senna + the most powerful engine on the grid would be interesting, but the Benetton and Lotus chassis are different, so that's one other factor to consider.
past drift
i'm not sure Senna would have done a lot more than Berger in that car
oblique dock
It's kinda interesting to note that Berger had 2 more career fastest laps than Senna did
Berger: 21
Senna: 19
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It's kinda interesting to note that Berger had 2 more career fastest laps than S...
The only record that Senna didn’t do well in I guess
Prost had 41
oblique dock
Just comes to show how great his racecraft was
oblique dock
Salut, Monsieur Prost
past drift
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day 4 of teams first wins: BMW-Sauber, 2008 Canadian GP
grave ermine
day 4 of teams first wins: BMW-Sauber, 2008 Canadian GP
Giga kubica
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giga rob
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and then dominated the next year
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kubica for merc 2023
grave ermine
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Kubica the Best
eager mesa
day 4 of teams first wins: BMW-Sauber, 2008 Canadian GP
doing it timeline based would be better than alphabetically tbh
past drift
OTD in 1986, one of the classic close fights of the sports
oblique dock
past drift
damn, throwback to my first race in our original historic racing league on rfactor 1
crystal galleon
Three of the greatest looking F1 cars
oblique dock
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At the 1984 Großer Preis von sterreich, Niki Lauda becomes the first and only Austrian to win his home Grand Prix. Mr. Lauda had gearbox problems while leading and had to finish the race with only third and fifth gear working, but he was still 23 seconds ahead of Nelson Piquet.
green cape
What's these corners at Kyalami called? I'm trying to find them on the modern circuit but I'm dumb.
past drift
What's these corners at Kyalami called? I'm trying to find them on the modern ci...
Barbeque and Jukskei sweep
grave ermine
At the 1984 Großer Preis von sterreich, Niki Lauda becomes the first and only Au...
He won because prost spun out
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He won because prost spun out
Prost spun out because of a failing gearbox and ran over some oil from de Angelis' Lotus
on lap 29
Alain Prost "If you hadn't come out on that damned puddle of oil, it would have happened to me"
manic reef
someone with true passion for the history of the sport
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day 5 of teams first f1 wins: brabham, 1964 French GP
oblique dock
Both deserved more in their careers
past drift
yeah :/ but they’ve not been forgotten, at all
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Anyone know this F1 car?
@oblique dock
Do ya think you can help me
Must be an Australian driver or team
or Sponsor
oblique dock
Judging by the helmet, the driver would be Mike Thackwell. And as for the car, it is most likely the 1985 RAM machine.
Sorry for the late reply
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Judging by the helmet, the driver would be Mike Thackwell. And as for the car, i...
Thanks
I found it https://www.statsf1.com/en/ram-03b.aspx
south tree
RAM?
lament vessel
That '80 cars look like cars for kids
oblique dock
manic reef
from which country was RAM from?
oblique dock
United Kingdom
hardy briar
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9AIudEyqVI bloody insanity
shame his channel is so unkown
oblique dock
Goddamn
The audio is so crisp
And the POV tops it all off
This just looks straight out of a movie. Props to him on the cinematography
hardy briar
Definitely subscribing to him
join us!
past drift
done, shame they don't post a lot. but each video looks very polished
thanks a lot for sharing this channel 😄
oblique dock
south tree
https://youtu.be/-D5yL1pTYTs
🥵🥵
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what do you guys think is better? Ayrtons senna with the 1988 mclaren or Michael Schumacher with F2004
past drift
Schumacher, because his teammate worked for him
round swift
ye and a 100% podium score
past drift
that's the F2002 😄
round swift
also 2004 right?
past drift
no, he had a few DNFs
round swift
ooooooh
past drift
for instance Monaco, when he was leading
past drift
the car itself thoigh had a 100% podium score
cause when Michael did not have a podium, Rubens did
past drift
he did that in 2002, which is mad
round swift
ye
past drift
and this year, Ferrari scored as many points as all the other teams combined
which is mathematically impossible nowadays
weak hill
https://youtu.be/-D5yL1pTYTs
i just wanted to thank you for introducing me to this gem of a channel i somehow hadnt come across before
sweet stratus
.watch
north sandBOT
round swift
#botspam ?
hardy briar
https://discord.com/channels/142082511902605313/797551517107224606/1036154048686...
👍😄
hardy briar
done, shame they don't post a lot. but each video looks very polished
Quality takes time!
hardy briar
https://youtu.be/UmwDQGGoVPs
I mean seriously, where else can you find 4 hours of onboard hd footage of a classic race car
round swift
I liked the other channel because the sound quality was spectacular, and most of the shot was from behind the car or cameras attached outside the car.
Nvm I’m thinking about another video of his
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I don’t remember entirely, but didn’t Jim want to race in a touring car race, or something similar, on the day?
But instead he was kind of forced by Lotus, to race in F2 at Hockenheim.
past drift
what Wikipedia says is he had contractual obligations with Firestone
frozen prism
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rNO4ZvjMK6M
whats crazy is that it looks straight out of a game
Senna, Imola 94
Didier Pironi's car after his career-ending accident, 1982 Hockenheim
(he did not die in this accident but he broke both his legs and was sidelined for the rest of the year, he never returned to F1 and died in 1987)
frozen prism
Out of Context Niki Lauda
acoustic pewter
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lament vessel
Wowo
wintry iris
damn
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11k
mainly because senna is dead
and you cant get a dead guys signature
plus this was during his JPS days
JPS Lotus
frozen prism
that yours?
round swift
but all that money is definitely worth it
Moss lost his only WDC because he felt it was unfair his rival was disqualified. If that isn’t sportsmanship of the first degree than what is?
past drift
Car designer Mauro Forghieri, who got his best days at Ferrari between 1960 and 1987, died today aged 87.
He designed the title winning Ferrari 158, 312T, 312T2 and 312T4
willow gorge
Car designer Mauro Forghieri, who got his best days at Ferrari between 1960 and ...
legend
lived a nice life
round swift
if it's us dollars, it's very expensive
Prost I got in 2015, Mansell in 2016 and Piquet in 2004.
willow gorge
wow
past drift
i love the sports, but i would never pay this much for a signed picture. unless i'm too much stacked, in which case i'd rather try to have dinner with one of these drivers
oblique dock
Car designer Mauro Forghieri, who got his best days at Ferrari between 1960 and ...
Forza Mauro
past drift
bro managed to make a wing car that was better than the Lotus 79 with a flat-12 engine
oblique dock
Respect
past drift
sometimes the best car isn't the prettiest
oblique dock
past drift
legs? just don't crash
oblique dock
A car that wasn't one of Ferrari's best, but Villeneuve managed to outdrive it and score his last 2 career wins
fierce gazelle
legs? just don't crash
who is that?
oblique dock
Gilles Villeneuve
oblique dock
bro managed to make a wing car that was better than the Lotus 79 with a flat-12 ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iD251B4HT30 Bro also helped with designing the Lambo 291
past drift
no it wasn't at Spa, the race was held at Zolder then
round swift
Spa was too dangerous
fierce gazelle
its still
meager pewter
Spicy
I have a strong affinity for the LE3512 despite it frankly sucking ass
Powered my favourite 3.5L car
oblique dock
sonic chasm
round swift
legs? just don't crash
It’s crazy that they had no safety structure for the front end crashes. It was pretty much like you’re losing your leg if you crash
Atleast the mclaren had carbon fibre
Better then magnesium and aluminum
Lol
willow gorge
sometimes the best car isn't the prettiest
Shit as long as it's competitive
I'll take the ugliest race car
placid hearth
frozen prism
Car designer Mauro Forghieri, who got his best days at Ferrari between 1960 and ...
rip legend
he goes under the radar in the list of greatest f1 designers
ionic hawk
https://assets.whichcar.com.au/image/private/s--Oejoo8Fd--/ar_2.304921968787515,...
i can hear my ears shattering after this comes alive
timid pollen
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https://assets.whichcar.com.au/image/private/s--3G1OJgWU--/c_fill,f_auto,q_auto:...
Which car
meager pewter
Which car
Lambo supplied Minardi, Larrousse/Venturi, Ligier, McLaren and Lotus at some point so idk
peak swallow
cars faster then the 2014 ferrari
hardy briar
It’s crazy that they had no safety structure for the front end crashes. It was p...
Terrifying
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Terrifying
Extremely
But I’m glad that carbon fibre was being implemented into F1 cars during that time
frozen prism
what is with the damn music
frozen prism
Did they race F1 cars at the Tasman series?
at times yes
frozen prism
legs? just don't crash
ah the infamous double rear wing
Villeneuve finished 2nd i believe
but got disqualified
timid pollen
what is with the damn music
She is good
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Carlos Reutemann defied team orders in 1981 to allow Alan Jones to pass and win the Grande Prèmio do Brasil. Mr. Jones was supposed to win if the William FW07C's were in a 1-2 position, according to his contract. The Argentine did not want to let this Grand Prix slip away, and he crossed the finish line 4,4 seconds ahead of his teammate.
More about it at: https://www.racefans.net/2010/08/18/the-drivers-who-defied-team-orders/
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Carlos Reutemann defied team orders in 1981 to allow Alan Jones to pass and win ...
Belgium 1998, Austria 2002, Germany 2010, and Russia 2018 would have all been different stories if team orders were ignored during those races
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San Marino 1982 if team orders were applied.. and same race 89
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Senna breaking the restart packed really kicked off the rivalry
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Belgium 1998, Austria 2002, Germany 2010, and Russia 2018 would have all been di...
Yeah
paper jacinth
Senna breaking the restart packed really kicked off the rivalry
Ayrton is the full responsible of the start the Rivaly in McLaren team
If Ayrton didn't break that packed in Imola, Alain maybe would stay in McLaren for 1990
Ayrton and Alain are my favorite drivers in F1, but in that race, Ayrton made a terrible mistake in amazing respect between them
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inside the car, he didn't use his brain as much as Alain did
idle gale
Talk about an unintentional payback
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This picture is from Alain Prost’s Instagram from two days ago. I noticed Steve Nicholas in the background. Does anybody see anybody else that is recognizable in the picture?
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Yeah
idle gale
Damon literally fuming over the controversial championship costing crash with Michael
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This picture is from Alain Prost’s Instagram from two days ago. I noticed Steve ...
no, i only recognize Steve Nichols as well
he was a race engineer then, so it's possible the others were mechanics or sth
pale hatch
signal flint
Damon literally fuming over the controversial championship costing crash with Mi...
Even angry he looks like a mouse
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This picture is from Alain Prost’s Instagram from two days ago. I noticed Steve ...
Matthew Jeffreys is also there, he was a design engineer and now runs the page "car_profile_art" on insta
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Could someone send the link to the final publication report on the senna crash?
torn brook
This picture is from Alain Prost’s Instagram from two days ago. I noticed Steve ...
awww look at alain... happiest sixty something year old i've ever seen
torn brook
Out of Context Niki Lauda
"There are no pants in here. I'm just winging it."
frozen prism
awww look at alain... happiest sixty something year old i've ever seen
i think hes 67 68 already?
all i remember is that hes around 5 years older than Senna
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Prost is 67
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Belgium 1998, Austria 2002, Germany 2010, and Russia 2018 would have all been di...
Sepang 2013
Multi-21
quick ginkgo
More about it at: https://www.racefans.net/2010/08/18/the-drivers-who-defied-tea...
seb, multi 21
multi 21
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happiest 67 year old i've ever seen
Normally I find Alain to be a very cool and relaxed character, but I never expected him to be quite energetic as well
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Normally I find Alain to be a very cool and relaxed character, but I never expec...
Yeah same
south tree
It’s just me or the 312T was used a lot as a Test car on which to test a lot of new stuff? For example the six wheeler idea, this idea…
(The 312T8 that I won’t count since it’s photoshop from the 70s)
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It’s just me or the 312T was used a lot as a Test car on which to test a lot of ...
Well the 312T series is the most successful car design in F1 history, so there’s been a lot of different versions of them.
placid hearth
he would be really missed
Arron Sr btw is Simon Arron for the context. worked for motorsport magazine for years, an awesome journalist, especially with historic motorsport
hardy briar
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dope
willow gorge
wow this really shows how much bigger f1 cars have gotten
hardy briar
wow this really shows how much bigger f1 cars have gotten
😂😂😂
Also no it’s not missing JPS, the car was actually like that
north sandBOT
Congrats @hardy briar, you're now on lap 35
hardy briar
Also no it’s not missing JPS, the car was actually like that
The JPS one did look much better however 😔
chrome basin
Also no it’s not missing JPS, the car was actually like that
this feels illegal to look at
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willow gorge
Suzuka
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willow gorge
Tyrrel
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he qualified 3rd and finished 2nd that race
willow gorge
who won?
fierce gazelle
senna is the best in the 80s
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.truth
north sandBOT
Prost > Senna
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🤷♂️
fierce gazelle
senna was the harry potter in f1
fierce gazelle
but he also did insane things with middlefield cars
fierce gazelle
wikipedia say other things
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Lotus wasn't a midfielder when he was there
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his car was consistently fast, and when he had a good teammate, said teammate was also consistently fast
after said teammate left, he got to veto good drivers from joining
fierce gazelle
and skill is skill schumacher and prost also had the best cars
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he was fast but drove too hard for his cars
fierce gazelle
2 of them where top position
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that's why i think Prost was the better one, he might not be the fastest of the two, but he cared for his car more, and used his brain to get the points when he couldn't win
Senna only wanted to win
fierce gazelle
with a toleman thats like if ypu drive sauber to podiu
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2nd place is the first of the losers
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with a toleman thats like if ypu drive sauber to podiu
yep, like this Alesi Tyrrell mentioned earlier 🙂
these cars didn't belong to podium positions
fierce gazelle
that's why i think Prost was the better one, he might not be the fastest of the ...
senna is like max
max also riskfully
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in many ways yes
fierce gazelle
yep, like this Alesi Tyrrell mentioned earlier 🙂
these cars didn't belong to po...
thats skill of him but if senna drove more safty
he where mor succesful
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senna is the best in the 80s
Prost won more titles in the 1980s than Senna
1985 1986 1989
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he where mor succesful
he would have, but he did not do that
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(coincidentally, Piquet won the same amount of titles in that decade)
fierce gazelle
senna list 2 wcs in suzuka
lost*
and he started in the inside in suzuka
and then nexr year cuz of crash they gave prost the wcs
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senna list 2 wcs in suzuka
Senna wouldn't have won 1989 because he had many car related DNF's during the season while Prost had more race finishes and podiums. Even if he won in Japan and Australia, it wouldn't be enough to win over Prost
Senna wouldn't have won 1988 as well, had that year's points system not been used, as Prost technically outscored Senna that year
fierce gazelle
In tv they said it was head to head race like dubai 2021
that decides all
but in my opinion senna had so much skill
imagine ¾ of the races dnfs
and the from 6 races that he finished he had 2 podium with a toleman thats likw if you have a podium with alfa romeo now these days
and that was his first season
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also take into account the fact that at the time, a top team mostly meant having a reliable car, while the other cars just broke all the time
and you had less than 10 finishers quite often
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wikipedia say other things
Wikipedia isn't always right. You have to use reliable sources, like Autosport, Motorsport, statsf1, etc.
willow gorge
wikipedia 💀
meager pewter
Are you guys teachers or something?
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Are you guys teachers or something?
No I never said I was, I'm saying Wikipedia isn't as reliable as other sources.
Senna won 14 races and held 26 pole positions, while Prost won 11 races and held four pole positions. Prost, on the other hand, finished with 186 points, 25 podiums, and 12 fastest laps, while Senna finished with 154 points, 18 podiums, and 6 fastest laps.
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last time i checked, he never got married
fierce gazelle
Wikipedia isn't always right. You have to use reliable sources, like Autosport, ...
L
wikipedia is a goof website
good*
its helped me so much in my lufe
life*
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wikipedia is a goof website
Yes it is a goof website lol
marsh mango
gae
fierce gazelle
Yes it is a goof website lol
idiot i correct it
wise dirge
But hear me out
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wise dirge
If Wikipedia, an unreliable source, is saying it's an unreliable source, doesn't that make it a reliable source?
But if it's a reliable source, if it says it's unreliable, it is unreliable, which would make the Wikipedia paradox
chrome basin
usually reliable, but people make it unreliable on purpose
which those people try to fix it to make it reliable
so basically, editing war
hardy briar
If Wikipedia, an unreliable source, is saying it's an unreliable source, doesn't...
No
wise dirge
I wasn't being serious 😭
fierce gazelle
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_is_not_a_reliable_source
bro wtf man i thought wikipedia is not a reliable source
willow gorge
It is super reliable
fierce gazelle
bro says wikipedia sources is a not reliable but sending wikipedia sources
willow gorge
They are saying they aren't reliable
so don't trust everything they say
it's different lol
woeful rapids
Wikipedia is reliable most of the time
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bro wtf man i thought wikipedia is not a reliable source
It’s not. It says it on their website. “Wikipedia is not a reliable source for citations elsewhere on Wikipedia. As a user-generated source, it can be edited by anyone at any time, and any information it contains at a particular time could be vandalism, a work in progress, or simply incorrect.”
If you want F1 related news or facts try f1stats out!
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it's my #1 source for most f1 stuff
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Jacques Laffite of Equipe Ligier leads teammate Patrick Depailler throughout the 1979 Brazilian Grand Prix, never falling behind. Due to the new "ground effect" of the Ligier JS11, he smashed the 1975 pole position record by seven seconds, set the fastest lap, and won one of his six Grand Prix.
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Brabham BT45B & BT46 Prototype
chrome basin
Brabham BT45B & BT46 Prototype
this car was a underrated masterpiece imo
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flat-12 is always a win in terms of sound
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https://twitter.com/LegendarysF1/status/1590729611255480320
the general aero idea behind the MP4/4
queen saddle
Gotta love the F1 channel for having the entire 1991 Brazilian GP.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQE-0nG2kYE
chrome basin
flat-12 is always a win in terms of sound
true
quaint yew
Anyone know what grand prix this was? i know the year was 1987
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livid ingot
Anyone know what grand prix this was? i know the year was 1987
Was it when Nelson Piquet won?
quaint yew
I only know the year nothing else thats why im asking
livid ingot
I only know the year nothing else thats why im asking
Oh, I think it was the Monaco Grand Prix, I might be wrong.
past drift
wonder if Niki would still have retired if they used the DFV earlier than.. the race he decided he had had enough
idle gale
"I don't think- That didn't work! That didn't work, Michael! You hit the wrong part of him, my friend!"
Still managed to cause huge damage to the Williams' battery housings
hardy briar
😂
nova turtle
Im somehow in the mood to watch the entire 1982 season
I don’t know how to watch it
But I want to
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it’s on f1tv
queen saddle
Does anyone else think Christian Fittipaldi looks like discount Sainz?
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Riccardo Patrese's first race for Williams, Australia 1987
He subbed for Nigel Mansell after Mansell suffered a heavy crash at Suzuka
manic reef
Does anyone else think Christian Fittipaldi looks like discount Sainz?
Tbh i dont remember his face
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idle gale
Despite the, frankly rare, loud Japanese commentary, you can just hear Ayrton dabbing the throttle of his turbocharged samurai https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yJemzc6LusM&ab_channel=d5j4v
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My early PS work
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Despite the, frankly rare, loud Japanese commentary, you can just hear Ayrton da...
He did that to get higher revs throughout the corner to get a better exit speed. Using that technique is also very good in the rain and he became known for his insane wet weather drives.
If you close your eyes and listen, you can tell which one is Senna’s
placid hearth
I am listening to an interview of mario andretti from 14 years ago.
Interviewer: Yesterday, you were talking to ron dennis about driving a mclaren f1 car. you have never driven a mclaren, will it happen?
Mario: Unfortunately no.
Later in the interview Mario described the time when he first met Mauro, and the other Ferrari personnel.
"They thought I was an American who couldnt speak Italian. So they were talking about me, making jokes in Italian. Nothing offensive. So I pretended to go along with it. Later I spoke to Mauro in pure Italian and the colour drained out of his face."
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haha
signal flint
Despite the, frankly rare, loud Japanese commentary, you can just hear Ayrton da...
The first comment lol
mint nest
I am thinking about getting tickets for Hungary next year. What is the situation at the track in terms of parking, public transport, toilets, food and drinks, etc. I saw the Google reviews but if anyone has first hand experience please share.
(English in not my first language)
(Also i dont know where to post this.)
stuck bobcat
I am thinking about getting tickets for Hungary next year. What is the situation...
#chill-chat I'd say after the race drama calms down
But to host f1 you need to have a decent experience for the fans so I'm sure it's fine
median elbow
I am thinking about getting tickets for Hungary next year. What is the situation...
I was there during the last gp here are my suggestions:
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Public transportations back to Budapest are really hard and not fun ( You will be in a train that is full with people have have zero space and no air conditioning for over an hour ) and then a metro which is ok.
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Food is not the best I recommend buying some food before and getting there ready. Its also not cheap.
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But tickets for a sit not the general admission , it sucks ( and you will not find a good place I promise you that ).
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toilets are good actually .
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About drinks, you will have more then enough Alcohol and water but I do suggest brining water and some kind of sun protection like sunscreen and a good hat.
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I didn't get there by a car but getting there by a taxi on any day of the weekend ( race weekend ) was almost impossible and getting out is even harder and almost impossible ( or you will have to wait 3-4 hours !).
About the merch pricing, its ok but isn't cheap.
Other then that the race was amazing and the people are really nice, I would totally suggest going to the race if you find a good way to get back to your hotel and you buy a sit and not the general admission. If you have any questions you can DM them to me.
mint nest
Thanks
idle gale
It's still pretty amazing to me that this British Samurai is still the most dominant F1 car ever made. Because didn't it win all but one race?
Actually I think it also stayed within the podium positions for most of the 88 season as well
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To be honest, I feel like the Mercedes F1 W07 Hybrid should've have won 21 races out of the 21. They loss at the Spanish Grand Prix because both of them collided, and at the Malaysian Grand Prix Lewis was leading the race when his engine blew up, and Nico Rosberg was spun in the first corner of the first lap...
and the W07 still holds a lot of impressive records such as, Most podiums in a season, Most wins in a season, Most pole positions in a season with highest percentage, etc.
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I'd say the top two Mercedes F1 cars (in no particular order) would be the W07 and the W11
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I'd say the top two Mercedes F1 cars (in no particular order) would be the W07 a...
I agree, I mean Lewis Hamilton even said that he believes the W11 is the best F1 car Mercedes has ever produced
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The thing in my opinion is the Kawasaki Ninja H2R of F1 cars
It just goes like hell
anyways gotta go
meager pewter
He did that to get higher revs throughout the corner to get a better exit speed....
Isn't it more about Boost control tho? Or did they have Anti-Lag by then?
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Isn't it more about Boost control tho? Or did they have Anti-Lag by then?
Could’ve been to not sure
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green cape
monaco 82, baby
hardy briar
https://youtu.be/LId5SKxljqs
So interesting
manic reef
Wow it looks like a mix of an indycar and F1
Or are my eyes rlly that bad?
Beautiful car also
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slow grail
just slap one on the nose they won't suspect anything
grave ermine
who dis
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Jim Clark
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The one with the helmet is Stirling Moss
twin bloom
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Hawthorne
Moss
Brooks
Collins
G. Hill
D. Hill
Clark
Stewart
Coulthard
Button
Hamilton
Russell
Herbert
Mansell
Surtees
Gethin
Irvine
Hunt
And I'm missing 2 more...
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Hawthorne
Moss
Brooks
Collins
G. Hill
D. Hill
Clark
Stewart
Coulthard
Button
Ham...
I think you're missing John Watson
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and Innes Ireland
One of the two most forgettable drivers on the list
the other being Gethin
(even though he won the closest ever F1 finish at Monza, which is pretty notable)
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(even though he won the closest ever F1 finish at Monza, which is pretty notable...
1:51
Look at how close the top five were!!
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The top five were separated by 6 tenths
Simply mind boggling
I actually had to replay the finish in slow motion just to see how close they really were
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FOV aside, Prost's driving and the sound of the Renault V6 at full song really captures the early 1980's turbo era very well
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Imagine an entire grid of 1980's F1 cars with this exhaust layout being used
I'm surprised Ferrari were the only ones who thought of using the layout
I'm also going to assume it was a 6-1 exhaust, which explains the exhaust note
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they really were quite ingenious when Harvey Postlesthwaite was there
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RIP Harvey
Who knows what the Honda F1 project would have been capable of if he didn't die
hardy briar
what a narrow FOV does
No, a Narrow forward facing view shows a lack of speed, a wide field of view will looks faster because the edges “move faster” to our brains
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No, a Narrow forward facing view shows a *lack* of speed, a wide field of view w...
my bad, put it the other way around
so now on the onboard cameras, the fov is narrow and then it was wide?
hardy briar
I’d say so, but prosts is mounted so high which is strange
I think the bumpiness is part of the reason it feels so fast
hardy briar
my bad, put it the other way around
so now on the onboard cameras, the fov is n...
The general recipe for fast feeling video is fixed mount, wide fov, low height, and bumpiness
So the vid ticks 3 of those boxes
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manic reef
i dont like the way the 1989 williams looks idk why
Is it the airbox i think? I forgot the name of the top thing on the car
Holy shit im bad at writing 💀
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Ya it was different lol
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Before the FW13 was used for the rest of 1989 and 1990, the FW12C was used
The FW12C is very underrated imo
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‘James Hunt, a former world champion, tested the FW12C in preparation for a potential comeback. In December 1989, he conducted a covert test at the Paul Ricard Circuit and set fast speeds, but ultimately chose not to get back in the driver's seat.’
FW12B
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FW11C
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ickx on the race feed saying he refused to win the 1970 title because rindt couldn’t defend his fight since he couldn’t do the last 4 races
it would have made it meaningless cause he would have beaten a ghost, basically
meager pewter
How is this classic?
warped quiver
Bro thinks he funny
hollow cipher
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yijEoV_BVeA
1962 Spa lap tour by Lucien Bianchi (in French), Jules' great uncle, who also perished in an accident at Le Mans in 1969
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nice italian accent he has
hollow cipher
yeah he was an Italian born Belgian
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ye i figured, at first i thought he just rolled Rs like a proper countryside man, but there's sth else
timid pollen
🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
hollow cipher
https://youtu.be/9SmrV-FFC1w?t=26 wait wtf Jackie Stewart almost called Gilles, Jacques
I never knew that it ever wouldve happened
maybe because he had Laffite on his mind
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the car was so bad anyway, it probably didn't handle a lot differently without the front wing
hollow cipher
According to Enzo, Gilles was the Saint of Destruction, the polar opposite of Jim Clark, he pushed every component to the limit
green cape
So what seasons are we watching this offseason?
willow gorge
So what seasons are we watching this offseason?
90-2022
atleast i'll try
i should start now tbh
maybe i'll go to the 80s
green cape
90-2022
damn hardcore
my guess is I'll get through 5 or 6
been watching 82, hoping to either go chronologically or jump up around a bit
what I really need to know are the seasons worth skipping
willow gorge
actually i lied
im now watching the 70s season review
jochen died and still won the title
willow gorge
what I really need to know are the seasons worth skipping
facts
green cape
like part of me wants to just witness 2002
but like... how many hours can I watch of utter domination
a bit random what season have what available on f1tv
I ended up watching the shitty 60 minute 2000s recut of the 82 detroit grand prix instead of the 40 minute original broadcast highlights 😭
willow gorge
yeah i feel you, i wanna learn as much of formula 1 as much of i can
but i dont wanna sit here and watch so many seasons
so many hours lol
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jochen died and still won the title
mentionned this today, scroll up a bit for some cool context about it
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Massive respect to Ickx
willow gorge
ickx on the race feed saying he refused to win the 1970 title because rindt coul...
oh wow
lots of respect between there drivers, it's great to see
well rindt the rightful champion of that season
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definitely
the race before he died, he had 45 pts and Ickx was only 4th equal with 19
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The 1970's were action packed and brutal
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the #1 enemy then was fire
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To think that from the 1960's to 1978 there was at least 1 driver fatality per season
willow gorge
was the last driver to die before senna gille?
willow gorge
To think that from the 1960's to 1978 there was at least 1 driver fatality per s...
huge decrease
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3 deaths since 82
and allegedly, all 3 were very avoidable
willow gorge
agreed
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Senna and Ratzenberger were down to poor engineering and car parts that broke
as for Bianchi, well the red flag exists
or just not drive a race when there's a typhoon
willow gorge
what broke on senna and ratzenberger's car
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Senna had a steering column failure (although it seems debatable depending on who you ask)
willow gorge
or just not drive a race when there's a typhoon
literally
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and Ratzenberger i think it's the front wing that broke, and it went under his car so he lost steering and rammed the wall straight on
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and allegedly, all 3 were very avoidable
Gilles, Paletti, and De Angelis
willow gorge
Senna had a steering column failure (although it seems debatable depending on wh...
Yes i've always read different answers
willow gorge
and Ratzenberger i think it's the front wing that broke, and it went under his c...
wow that is brutal
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dude was still alive and well, but he died suffocated by the fire smoke because the other drivers couldn't overturn his car (Mansell and Prost were there iirc), and there was no safety vehicle on the track nearby
the track was Paul Ricard, not the Nurb
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and Ratzenberger i think it's the front wing that broke, and it went under his c...
yeah, the frontwing broke and he went off at Villeneuve chicane (iirc)
oblique dock
dude was still alive and well, but he died suffocated by the fire smoke because ...
Before his car landed upside down, I think it flipped multiple times iirc
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probably, but still from what i've read, he wasn't injured
willow gorge
that's surprising to not even be injured in a crash like that in those times
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This kind of reminds me of Roger Williamson's crash, when David Purley tried to save Williamson from the burning wreck
past drift
ye that's the same vibes really
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frankly, no clue
obsidian thicket
found one of my grandfathers old tapes
willow gorge
can someone help me
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found one of my grandfathers old tapes
Haha lol
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hardy briar
found one of my grandfathers old tapes
Watch it!
ornate cobalt
FW11C
yo I've seen that irl
I had the please of getting to do the Williams heritage tour back in august
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I had the please of getting to do the Williams heritage tour back in august
what other ones did you see?
Did you get to see the FW14B?
ornate cobalt
a bit late but they had every car from the FW06 to the FW20
including that 6 wheel prototype
also the FW22, FW26 and FW30
also the FW34, FW36, FW40, FW43B and FW44
so basically alotta williams
and all of the world champions helmets
and a BMW V10 engine
it was very cool
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and a BMW V10 engine
Did you take any pictures you like to share?
I would love to see them if you did!
meager pewter
Y'all wanna backup in case he doesn't?
