classic-motorsport

[slow grail]

day 19 of f1 first wins
tony brooks - 1957 british gp

[neon vigil]

French Excellence

[past drift]

based

[manic reef]

Alesi looks like the cool old uncle

[neon vigil]

he is the cool old uncle

[analog jasper]

lets go brooks

[round swift]

Senna didn’t drive through the chicane in ‘89, but he went accordingly around the bollards in the exit road?
Or should he have been wheeled to the chicane

I don’t get what he did wrong

[round swift]

He cut the chicane and continued the race

[frozen prism]

yeah but the disqualification was kind of a bad call considering the next year they said they wouldnt disqualify those who went through the escape road instead of the chicane

[round swift]

🤷‍♂️

[round swift]

MP4/9

GLAS 001

Looks like Lamborghini 291

[slow grail]

day 20 of f1 first wins
jimmy bryan - 1958 indy 500

[past drift]

6 drivers have scored a pole position for their first race. of those, 3 went on to become world champions: Giuseppe Farina (first race ever), Mario Andretti and Jacques Villeneuve

[neon vigil]

I like Hamilton at McLaren

[past drift]

@neon vigil not classic! you should post this in #formula-1 instead

[south tree]

I’ve never seen this car before

But on the other hand it’s too similar to the lambo modena 291

[round swift]

I think it originated from it

[south tree]

Makes sense

[round swift]

Yeah it did

https://www.unracedf1.com/glas-f1/

[neon vigil]

i thought it is though

because it had the old mclaren

mp4

i thought it would but mb

[prime herald]

classic cars in f1 2020 were so fun

[past flint]

I wish they'll bring back f1 classics in the f1 games

[round swift]

Were there any turbo cars in the 90s

I forgot the regs

Any cylinder but 3.0L?

[round swift]

Merc sidepods

[oblique dock]

Nope

Turbos were banned after the 1988 season

[prime herald]

same

[round swift]

No it was banned from the 1989 season leaving only 3.5L

Ah

Thanks

When was the ‘any cylinder only 3.5L’ rule stop

What are some of you guys favourite old f1 footage.

[round swift]

In 1995 it was 3.0L

Thanks

2006 was 2.4L

Then 1.6L

Lol

Lol

When did the any cylinder rule start

Something like

1968-1995?

Um

Idk

The first engine rule was 1947

4.5 L atmospheric and 1.5 L supercharged engines

According to Wikipedia but I’m not totally sure

Yeah it would be 68

Cos that’s when DFV came

Also

What the f is atmospheric?

What does that mean

[oblique dock]

Naturally Aspirated probably

[past drift]

yes

atmospheric means the air going into the engine is at the normal atmospheric pressure

[round swift]

Naturally Aspirated

[frozen prism]

no

they were banned after 1988

and teams started using V12s and V10s for most of the 90s

with the exception of the Ford V8 engines

[slow grail]

day 21 of f1 first wins
jack brabham - 1959 monaco gp

[frozen prism]

ah the Cooper T51

[hybrid mango]

OTD

25.07.82

Formula 1 1982 Grand Prix de France Race Results🇫🇷

1.R.Arnoux🇫🇷 (Renault) 1h33m33.217s
2.A.Prost🇫🇷 (Renault)+17.308s
3.D.Pironi🇫🇷 (Ferrari)+42.128s
4.P.Tambay🇫🇷 (Ferrari)+1.16.241
5.K.Rosberg🇫🇮 (Williams-Ford)+1.30.994
6.M.Alboreto🇮🇹 (Tyrrell-Ford)+1.32.339
7.D.Daly🇮🇪 (Williams-Ford)+1 Lap
8.N.Lauda🇦🇹 (McLaren-Ford)+1 Lap
9.B.Giacomelli🇮🇹 (Alfa Romeo)+1 Lap
10.B.Henton🇬🇧 (Tyrrell-Ford)+1 Lap
11.M.Winkelhock🇩🇪 (ATS-Ford)+2 Laps
12.G.Lees🇬🇧 (Lotus-Ford)+2 Laps
13.M.Surer🇨🇭 (Arrows-Ford)+2 Laps
14.J.Laffite🇫🇷 (Ligier-Matra)+3 Laps
15.D.Warwrick🇬🇧 (Toleman-Hart)+4 Laps
16.E.Cheever🇺🇸 (Ligier-Matra)+5 Laps
DNF.A.De Cesaris🇮🇹 (Alfa Romeo)
DNF.N.Piquet🇧🇷 (Brabham-BMW)
DNF.E.De Angelis🇮🇹 (Lotus-Ford)
DNF.J.Watson🇬🇧 (McLaren-Ford)
DNF.J.Mass🇩🇪 (March-Ford)
DNF.M.Baldi🇮🇹 (Arrows-Ford)
DNF.R.Patrese🇮🇹 (Brabham-BMW)
DNF.E.Salazar🇨🇱 (ATS-Ford)
DNF.J.Pierre Jarier🇫🇷 (Osella-Ford)
DNF.T.Fabi🇮🇹 (Toleman-Hart)
DNF.J.Lammers🇳🇱 (Theodore-Ford)
DNF.R.Guerrero🇨🇴 (Ensign-Ford)
DNF.R.Boesel🇧🇷 (March-Ford)

[analog jasper]

what a day for france

[past drift]

the day Prost started becoming disliked by his own peoplr

and figured out he’d rather leave for switzerland

[oblique dock]

….and then he pissed off some renault employees which burned his road cars in his swiss residence

[round swift]

Wait what the hell…

[oblique dock]

Yeah

That happened after Prost gave his criticisms after losing the 1983 title

[past drift]

Going up to Paris the same evening, Prost stops at a gas station and meets a firefighter who mistakes him for his teammate. "You did really well, Mr. Arnoux," comments the man. I'm really glad you beat this little bi*** of Prost. The French public has chosen their side. As in the past during the rivalry between cyclists Jacques Anquetil and Raymond Poulidor, it prefers the charismatic and twirling, but often losing, "lil’ guy of the countryside" to the victorious, cold and calculating gifted. Prost will never be a prophet in his country.

[round swift]

Poor Prost

[analog jasper]

Imagine being hated by the country you race for

and then you win 4 wdcs

[past drift]

ig we changed our mind when Senna came in the picture

[oblique dock]

And having a race win record that would remain unbeaten until 2001

[past drift]

win records went like 1973 - 1987 - 2001 - 2019(?)

[analog jasper]

arnoux never won a championship either

[oblique dock]

He just dipped when he went to Ligier

He also drew the ire of both Murray Walker and James Hunt.

[past drift]

ye he became slow after 86

but wouldn’t admit it until 89 ig

[oblique dock]

When you anger both, you know you messed up badly

A real good example of a driver past their prime

[round swift]

Ywah 1973 was when Jackie passed Jim Clark right?

[past drift]

hmmm Clark had 25 wins iirc, so yes it should be in 73 that Jackie beat him

[slow grail]

day 22 of f1 first wins
rodger ward - 1959 indy 500

[nimble aspen]

It’s beautiful

[timid cove]

Long car

Also funny how Indy is technically a "F1" win

[oblique dock]

The Indy 500 used to be part of the world championship back in the 50’s

[frozen prism]

the Indy was part of the world championship before in the 50s and the early 60s

[round swift]

1962 Mexican Grand Prix

The race with two winners

[frozen prism]

also a bit of a frequent occurence in the 50s

like in the 1957 British Grand Prix iirc

or the 1956 Argentinian Grand Prix

[idle gale]

LOTUS = Lots Of Trouble Usually Serious

[idle gale]

Huh. So I guess Toyota and Racing Point/Aston Martin weren't the only ones to copy a front runner's car design

[past drift]

Benetton was owned by Flavio Briatore

it’s not copying, it was the same car (except the Benetton in 95 and 96 had a Mugen Honda engine, and not a Renault)

like Toro Rosso was for Red Bull at some point

[analog jasper]

am i the only one who doesn't know the car below

ligier?

[oblique dock]

Yes

[past drift]

i meant to say Ligier. he basically was in charge of both, although Ligier was ran by Tom Walkinshaw for the day to day operation

[south tree]

Not copying, directly the same car with different engines

[quick ginkgo]

just found out my grandma did the prayer before the race at the 2001 us gp

[round swift]

Coloni C3C

[analog jasper]

ligier didnt do that bad that year

[hardy briar]

What a wonky looking car from that angle

[slow grail]

day 23 of f1 first wins
jo bonnier - 1959 dutch gp

[round swift]

Prost GP?

[round swift]

Who copied who

[round swift]

Y? Politics with Balestre/Renault?

I know he was pissed with Renault french management, but idk how that has to do with french fans.

[round swift]

Fricking hell

[round swift]

Didn’t Clark beat Fangio record in 67?

[round swift]

Yes

https://external-preview.redd.it/1yCHFQ2SOPABFRo8BQKG9O-O2LWXDN0ZGQs6dShQW2I.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=418909d299af7944fde1ea105bb7f79cf67c5de9

Interesting

What do you make of this anyone??

[round swift]

Alain 21?
I’m guessing this is wins with Ferrari, Renault and ‘87 McLaren only?
Or does wins when his teammate won the title count?

[round swift]

I guess Lewis is now tied with Michael at 32.

Or is it WCC title?

[round swift]

Just the cars

[round swift]

No why

2021 was a championship winning car

[analog jasper]

how does kimi have 13

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/5mbFRMK3zSk

Featuring donuts from Satoru Nakajima and Nelson Piquet

[frozen prism]

well Kimi won once in 2003 and in 2004, 7 wins in '05, and then he won a race in 2009, 2012, and 2013 and in 2018

which accounts to 13

if my knowledge serves me right

[analog jasper]

yeah

[analog jasper]

but this

[past drift]

i think Fangio had 24 wins and Clark 25. so the record being beaten would be for Clarks last GP in 68

[frozen prism]

yeah at Kyalami

such a tragedy that we lost Jim Clark

the worst part was that it could have been avoided since he wanted to drive at a 1000 KM Sportscar race at Brands Hatch

but he was obligated to join that F2 race iirc

[past drift]

:/

[past drift]

Chico Serra on the Fittipaldi F8C, 1981 Monaco

[frozen prism]

ah the Lamborghini that was a complete truck to drive

[oblique dock]

Rick Mears testing for Brabham

[round swift]

It won the constructors

[analog jasper]

oh right

[hybrid mango]

OTD

27.07.97

Formula 1 Grosser Mobil 1 Preis von Deutschland 1997 Race Results🇩🇪

1.G.Berger🇦🇹 (Benetton-Renault) 1h20m59.046s
2.M.Schumacher🇩🇪 (Ferrari)+17.527s
3.M.Hakkinen🇫🇮 (McLaren-Mercedes)+24.770s
4.J.Trulli🇮🇹 (Prost-Mugen-Honda)+27.165s
5.R.Schumacher🇩🇪 (Jordan-Peugeot)+29.995s
6.J.Alesi🇫🇷 (Benetton-Renault)+34.717s
7.S.Nakano🇯🇵 (Prost-Mugen-Honda)+1.19.722
8.D.Hill🇬🇧 (Arrows-Yamaha)+1 Lap
9.N.Fontana🇦🇷 (Sauber-Petronas)+1 Lap
10.J.Verstappen🇳🇱 (Tyrrell-Ford)+1 Lap
11.G.Fisichella🇮🇹 (Jordan-Peugeot)+5 Laps
DNF.R.Barrichello🇧🇷 (Stewart-Ford)
DNF.M.Salo🇫🇮 (Tyrrell-Ford)
DNF.J.Villeneuve🇨🇦 (Williams-Renault)
DNF.J.Magnussen🇩🇰 (Stewart-Ford)
DNF.U.Katayama🇯🇵 (Minardi-Hart)
DNF.J.Herbert🇬🇧 (Sauber-Petronas)
DNF.P.Diniz🇧🇷 (Arrows-Yamaha)
DNF.D.Coulthard🇬🇧 (McLaren-Mercedes)
DNF.H.Harald Frentzen🇩🇪 (Williams-Renault)
DNF.E.Irvine🇬🇧 (Ferrari)
DNF.T.Marques🇧🇷 (Minardi-Hart)

[slow grail]

berger's and benetton's last win

day 24 of f1 first wins
bruce mclaren - 1959 us gp

[sleek cargo]

Chris Amon, 1976 US GP West

[past drift]

fun bit, Berger scored the first and last wins for that team.

[slow grail]

i'll leave you to decide who he's talking about here

||hint: both||

[round swift]

Lmao

[south tree]

What car is that?

It reminds me of a March 751

[oblique dock]

It’s also Benetton’s only win under an Italian license

[analog jasper]

gonna assume its a BRM

[round swift]

Schumacher better than Senna?

[round swift]

When did Fiffipaldi start his team and who was it sold to

[round swift]

Yeah Ford wanted him to race but they didn’t get their way for some reason or another

[round swift]

Meh, depends what you mean as better? Better as in what? Racing? Fast Laps? Consistency? Qualifying?

[hardy briar]

Wow, look at that safety!

[leaden python]

Yall want to see my car?

[past drift]

team started in 75, emmo joined it in 76. went bankrupt after the 82 season

[sleek cargo]

Ensign N174, Ford engine

[sleek cargo]

i might be dead and not really vintage rn, but Lamborghini was always overrated as hell

[oblique dock]

I’m assuming you’re talking about the car company and not the engine supplier. Cuz they were crap as an engine manufacturer

[sleek cargo]

yeah the entire factory

[round swift]

What year

[hardy briar]

65 or 66 Monaco IIRC

66

[round swift]

Who won the title in 66?

Brabham?

Did Hill ever beat Jimmy when they were teammates

In a season

[round swift]

As an overall driver

[past drift]

yes

[past drift]

no

they were only teammates in 67

and since Clark died after the first gp of 68, which he won, the answer is no 🙂

[round swift]

Hard to say

[round swift]

:((

[slow grail]

day 25 of f1 first wins
jim rathmann - 1960 indy 500

[round swift]

True that!

[round swift]

Are the TAG McLaren turbo engines of the 80s basically just Porsche engines?

[oblique dock]

Yes

[round swift]

Apparently the V8s used to rev >20000rpm but there was regs to lower it?

[frozen prism]

seeing as they were only teammates for 1 full season (technically 2) he did not

Jim won 4 races that year in 1967 but was out of the title fight due to reliability problems

Graham Hill only managed 3 finishes

he got 2 podiums to my knowledge

but the 1967 Lotus was pretty fast as Jimmy and Graham got 9 poles combined

the 1968 Lotus had the new aerodynamic wings and had really improved reliability

[round swift]

Why was the B194 the only car with that straight nose whilst others still had the classic early 90s nose curve

[frozen prism]

simply because they were the first ones to figure out that raised noses were superior in aerodynamics

Tyrrell had first created the innovation at the start of the 90s

while most F1 teams were still using the philosophy of bending the air to their aerodynamic advantage using the sloped noses

but presumably after Benetton won the title in 94 most if not all teams switched to the raised straight nose

the teams that didnt adopt the raised nose in 1995 were Ferrari, Simtek, Jordan, Footwork, Pacific, and Footwork

[analog jasper]

tyrrell 019?

this nose?

[past drift]

yes

[past drift]

no they weren’t, but they were the first to improve on that tyrrell above by having one plane fixed with 2 pylons to the nose

[frozen prism]

yeah sorry thats what I meant

the Tyrrell was a semi-decent car

Alesi got 2 2nd places iirc

[past drift]

sadly too underpowered

but it showed how advanced this idea was

[round swift]

At least it looked nice

[meager pewter]

https://youtu.be/Rdfd3VBlaE8

Also yeah in 2007 it was limited to 19

Then 2009 the cursed 18 zone

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/aFb-uxui5Mo

The Midland team were 3 years too early

[slow grail]

day 26 of f1 first wins
phil hill - 1960 italian gp

[round swift]

Did Senna get his first F3 test with Eddie Jordan?

I remember him saying something like this on Beyond The Grid, but can’t find any other evidence

[round swift]

Is the white helmet Kobayashi?

[round swift]

Yes I believe so

[stiff sage]

@oblique dock

[oblique dock]

Yes?

[stiff sage]

Sorry my phone was in my pocket in it did that

[proud bobcat]

nice

[digital fossil]

My uncle’s collection

[signal flint]

Give

[round swift]

What is that coin

[slow grail]

day 27 of f1 first wins
wolfgang von trips - 1961 dutch gp

[static jacinth]

Hold up

I can’t be the only person who thought there were two people in the car

[signal flint]

No, I did now that you mentioned it

[glacial jetty]

Yo

Anywone got f1 21 here?

:0

[misty lark]

@wet seal

[round swift]

#racing-games

[frozen prism]

how did you think that?

[static jacinth]

Look at the ram air thing

The holes look like sunglasses and the lights makes the top of it like hair

[frozen prism]

the intakes?

[frozen prism]

you know what im not even gonna question it

[oblique dock]

Marlboro Men

[timber warren]

Marlboro's Gang Of Four

[oblique dock]

Coulthard’s just like: “yeah… great to be here, guys.”

[timber warren]

He looks like he doesn't wanna be there

[oblique dock]

Meanwhile, the Ferrari drivers are just chillin

[timber warren]

Schumi's having the best day ever

[oblique dock]

The greatest overtake in F1

[frozen prism]

Irvine just looks unnatural

[frozen prism]

Crazy Story: In the 1993 Japanese GP, Ayrton Senna who had won the race was furious at Eddie Irvine for recklessly trying to unlap himself in a heated battle with Damon Hill, Senna had been invited by Berger to drink some schnapps post-race, and Senna who was probably drunk on those schnapps entered the Jordan motorhome confronting Irvine, and just as Senna was leaving the confrontation and the motorhome, Senna turned around and launched at Irvine throwing left and right haymakers everywhere, Irvine fell down to the ground as the argument finally stopped.

The best part about all this was that there is a tape recording of this fight that only surfaced a few years ago

https://open.spotify.com/episode/79pGoGbm6gP9AyooRdOJSQ

this podcast is the only source that I know where the recording is heard

timestamp is 31:00

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/Js_NhQrjJcY

https://youtu.be/oE3FXlOB_ro

Always did find the 94 Sauber to be a bit interesting

[past drift]

be there or be square

[limber solar]

Can someone help me to recognize who is the moustache guy on the side of ron dennis? 1988 Mclaren Japanese Grand Prix

[oblique dock]

Gordon Murray???

[limber solar]

Thanks mate

[past drift]

ye it's Gordon Murray

[round swift]

Who was the Ferrari strategists during the Alonso,Vettel,Schumi era

[round swift]

Goatden Murray

Who did Gordon design the MP4/4 with?

[past drift]

Steve Nichols

[slow grail]

day 28 of f1 first wins
giancarlo baghetti - 1961 french gp

[sleek cargo]

technically the only driver that won on his debut

[meager pewter]

One of muh fave saubers

[hybrid mango]

OTD

01.08.1976

Formula 1 Grosser Preis Von Deutschland 1976 Race Results🇩🇪

1.J.Hunt🇬🇧 (McLaren-Ford) 1h41m42.7s
2.J.Scheckter🇿🇦 (Tyrrell-Ford)+27.7s
3.J.Mass🇩🇪 (McLaren-Ford)+52.4s
4.C.Pace🇧🇷 (Brabham-Alfa Romeo)+54.2s
5.G.Nilsson🇸🇪 (Lotus-Ford)+1.57.3
6.R.Stommelen🇩🇪 (Brabham-Alfa Romeo)+2.30.3
7.J.Watson🇬🇧 (Penske-Ford)+2.33.9
8.T.Pryce🇬🇧 (Shadow-Ford)+2.48.2
9.C.Regazzoni🇨🇭 (Ferrari)+3.46.0
10.A.Jones🇦🇺 (Surtees-Ford)+3.47.3
11.J.Pierre Jarier🇫🇷 (Shadow-Ford)+4.51.7
12.M.Andretti🇺🇸 (Lotus-Ford)+4.58.1
13.E.Fittipaldi🇧🇷 (Fittipaldi-Ford)+5.25.5
14.A.Pesenti-Rossi🇮🇹 (Tyrrell-Ford)+1 Lap
15.G.Edwards🇬🇧 (Hesketh-Ford)+1 Lap
DNF.A.Merzario🇮🇹 (Wolf-Williams-Ford)
DNF.V.Brambilla🇮🇹 (March-Ford)
DNF.P.Depailler🇫🇷 (Tyrrell-Ford)
DNF.C.Reutemann🇦🇷 (Brabham-Alfa Romeo)
DNF.R.Peterson🇸🇪 (March-Ford)
DNF.H.Joachim Stuck🇩🇪 (March-Ford)
DNF.J.Lafitte🇫🇷 (Ligier-Matra)
DNF.C.Amon🇳🇿 (Ensign-Ford)
DNF.N.Lauda🇦🇹 (Ferrari)
DNF.B.Lunger🇺🇸 (Surtees-Ford)
DNF.H.Ertl🇩🇪 (Hesketh-Ford)
DNS.L.Lombardi🇮🇹 (Brabham-Ford)
DNS.H.Pascarolo🇫🇷 (Surtees-Ford)

[round swift]

Holy shit why were there so many dnf’s

I know one driver crashed heavily into Lauda’s car after the freak accident

[oblique dock]

Brett Lunger and Arturo Merzario

[past drift]

can you remove the image @hybrid mango

and Guy Edwards

[past drift]

there was no reliability then, across the field it was very frequent to have less than 10 finishers

for more than 25 starters

and actually Ferrari was stupidly reliable in that era

and their engine was more powerful

[hybrid mango]

I mean I know it's Not good to watch but That was one of the reason why This race was in history books

[past drift]

i’m asking you to remove the image

[oblique dock]

1975-1977, and 1979

1978 was also good

[hardy briar]

The 70s man

[round swift]

ngl man
but that car reminds me of panigale

[slow grail]

day 29 of f1 first wins
innes ireland - 1961 us gp

[round swift]

Can’t believe your still doing this

Keep it up!

[round swift]

F1 with a 20-1 Points System

Really interesting

Look at Alain and Senna!! 👀

[past drift]

hehe

moss still with 0

[analog jasper]

Irvine and Senna wouldve had the same number of titles

[past drift]

reminder

.truth

[north sand]

Prost > Senna

[round swift]

Lol

[chrome basin]

so i guess prost really is the GOAT

[past drift]

it is known 🙏

[round swift]

He was always the GOAT

🐐

[round swift]

Silent : Fangio fighting with Collins and Moss
Boomers : Lauda injured and missed the title
Gen X : Senna smashed Prost at Suzuka 1990
Gen Y : Schumacher disqualified in 1997
Gen Z : Glock der Mann
Alpha : Mikey Masi
You know what I mean

[slow grail]

https://twitter.com/McLarenF1/status/1554395723088777216

McLaren (@McLarenF1)

#OnThisDay in 1998, @F1MikaHakkinen and @TheRealDCF1 dominated the #GermanGP, finishing in first and second place. 🥇🥈

Twitter · Aug 2, 2022, 9:16 AM

[round swift]

😌🤩

[violet oasis]

.truth

[north sand]

Prost > Senna

[violet oasis]

.lie

[round swift]

Lmao

[timber warren]

Nah both good

I think Senna was more of a star during the Late 80's and Early 90's

[past drift]

Prost better

[hardy briar]

They were both good but prost was good for longer

[oblique dock]

To be fair Prost (technically) outscored Senna in 1988 and 1989, so his forte would probably be the early 90’s

He’s still shown his undeniable worth and talent during the late 80’s though

[round swift]

So senna would’ve only won 91?

Or 90?

[past drift]

90 ig

althopugh... not sure.

right, yes sure. he wins 1990

argh, i should scrape the data and make the model myself.

[signal flint]

So why wouldn't of he won 88 or 91,or 93

I don't even know if he won 93 or not tbh

[past drift]

Senna?

no

he wouldn't have won 88 because he retired a lot while Prost almost never did

[signal flint]

Ah

So how come he did win it then

Bcz of the Suzuka Chichane crash

Or was that 89

[past drift]

the chicane crash is 89, he lost that

he won because only the 11 best results (out of 16 races) counted towards the end result

he got more wins than Prost

[signal flint]

Oh

But Prost was more consistent?

I'm guessing with more 2nd place finishes

[slow grail]

day 30 of f1 first wins
graham hill - 1962 dutch gp

[round swift]

Yes

I would only choose Senna if it was qualifying or wet races

[round swift]

Yes

[signal flint]

Ah

[past drift]

Prost got slower in the rain after he got involved in an accident with Didier Pironi, that ended the latter's career

his first win was in the rain

[round swift]

Senna had more rain race wins from 1988-1989

https://f1metrics.wordpress.com/2014/06/04/who-was-the-best-wet-weather-driver/

Senna is second while Alain is down in 18

Senna, won 14 of 21 wet races he started

[haughty sedge]

.truth

[north sand]

Prost > Senna

[haughty sedge]

.lie

[fleet bronze]

So what if during the 1976 Suzuka gp if niki Lauda never retired do you think he could’ve won the race and championship

[round swift]

Yes

[oblique dock]

Fuji was the venue for the Japanese GP. Suzuka was never used until 1987

[round swift]

I think he meant to say the Japanese GP

[past drift]

yes, and what is your point?

[sleek cargo]

tHaT hE wOn iN mOrE diFfiCuLt cOnDiTioNs aNd wOuLd'Ve wiN iF iT wAs tHaT eVeRy rAce

[past drift]

😂😂

[round swift]

Senna is a better racer in the rain then in the dry

1989 Canadian Grand Prix for example

https://youtu.be/Zh08GubD9yE

[round swift]

Yes but not a lot of people were better then him in rainy conditions back in 1990s

[oblique dock]

But of course there were those times where Senna had some mishaps in the rain. Spinning out at Spain in 1992, as well as running into the back of Martin Brundle at Adelaide in 1989

[round swift]

Yes. 2 or 3 accidents out of the 22 wet races he started in

Nobody is perfect. Everybody spins in the wet

Lewis, Micheal, Senna

They all spin

Or crash

[slow grail]

day 31 of f1 first wins
jim clark - 1962 belgian gp

[signal flint]

Is this the one with the M12 engine?

[meager pewter]

You can see the DFV intakes out back

https://www.ultimatecarpage.com/images/gallery/fos2016/Brabham-BT50-BMW-72818.jpg

On left the engine cover is smooth

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/b7/13/c2/b713c28dce5c2848fc8ace90ed2f6b15--birds-nelson-piquet.jpg

[unborn heath]

@round swift

[round swift]

Hallo

[slow grail]

day 32 of f1 first wins
dan gurney - 1962 french gp

[brazen harbor]

View from the roll bar of Eddie Cheever's Alfa Romeo during 1984 pre-season test at Paul Ricard

[round swift]

Yo ur gonna do one today??

https://youtu.be/_zAeX-SittI

[slow grail]

day 33 of f1 first wins
john surtees - 1963 german gp

[analog jasper]

same car

[copper jay]

some of my favourite pics of eddie irvine at jaguar

[oblique dock]

Steiner!

[hybrid mango]

OTD

06.08.06

Formula 1 Magyar Nagydij 2006 Race Results🇭🇺

1.J.Button🇬🇧 (BAR Honda) 1h52m20.941s
2.P.De La Rosa🇪🇸 (McLaren-Mercedes)+30.837s
3.N.Heidfeld🇩🇪 (BMW Sauber)+43.822s
4.R.Barrichello🇧🇷 (BAR Honda)+45.205s
5.D.Coulthard🇬🇧 (Red Bull-Ferrari)+1 Lap
6.R.Schumacher🇩🇪 (Toyota)+1 Lap
7.F.Massa🇧🇷 (Ferrari)+1 Lap
8.M.Schumacher🇩🇪 (Ferrari)+3 Laps
9.T.Monteiro🇵🇹 (MF1-Toyota)+3 Laps
10.C.Albers🇳🇱 (MF1-Toyota)+3 Laps
11.S.Speed🇺🇸 (Toro Rosso-Cosworth)+4 Laps
12.J.Trulli🇮🇹 (Toyota)+5 Laps
13.T.Sato🇯🇵 (Super Aguri-Honda)+5 Laps
DNF.F.Alonso🇪🇸 (Renault)
DNF.K.Raikkonen🇫🇮 (McLaren-Mercedes)
DNF.V.Liuzzi🇮🇹 (Toro Rosso-Cosworth)
DNF.N.Rosberg🇩🇪 (Williams-Cosworth)
DNF.G.Fisichella🇮🇹 (Renault)
DNF.C.Klien🇦🇹 (Red Bull-Ferrari)
DNF.M.Webber🇦🇺 (Williams-Cosworth)
DNF.S.Yamamoto🇯🇵 (Super Aguri-Honda)
DSQ.R.Kubica🇵🇱 (BMW Sauber)

[round swift]

2006

Classic is before 2002

[hybrid mango]

I tried do it in #f1-hq-photos-and-videos but didn't allow it

[slow grail]

day 34 of f1 first wins
lorenzo bandini - 1964 austrian gp

[copper jay]

wow that track is a big difference to the one we have today

[idle gale]

The 90s Legends

[hardy briar]

Can’t wait for some GOATs like Clark, Lauda, Prost, Senna, ETC! Get some good pics!

Wait…

You already got Clark

[hardy briar]

There it is!

[placid hearth]

i noted that berger didnt bat at eye towards senna. patrese was jovial and concerned

berger looked very disappointed

[slow grail]

day 35 of f1 first wins
jackie stewart - 1965 italian gp

[brazen harbor]

The monster of 1986.
1350hp inline 4 1.5L turbocharged BMW powered Benetton B186. Driven by Gerhard Berger 🇦🇹 and Teo Fabi 🇮🇹

[south tree]

Apparently it was more than that but that’s the official number so yeah

Indeed a crazy and wonderful era of racing

[round swift]

It made more horsepower in qualifying trim. Like 1500+

[slow grail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=of5zNIFa_s4

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/eJ9Lz1WeQpE

[signal flint]

I love how that engine is the same as the bmw 2002 and can be tuned to that amount in a family car

[digital fossil]

F1 Legends FIA 25 Euro Coin

Is the silver ayrton senna one

[meager pewter]

No

1,400 tops if it's to be believed

[south tree]

That was the top that the thing to see the power probably had

Am not sure tho

[hybrid mango]

As today is Mansell birthday let's go back to his 1st win in Brands Hatch

Formula 1 Shell Oils Grand Prix of Europe 1985 Race Results🇪🇺

1.N.Mansell🇬🇧 (Williams-Honda) 1h32m58.109s
2.A.Senna🇧🇷 (Lotus-Renault)+21.396s
3.K.Rosberg🇫🇮 (Williams-Honda)+58.533s
4.A.Prost🇫🇷 (McLaren-TAG)+1.06.121
5.E.De Angelis🇮🇹 (Lotus-Renault)+1 Lap
6.T.Boutsen🇧🇪 (Arrows-BMW)+2 Laps
7.J.Watson🇬🇧 (McLaren-TAG)+2 Laps
8.P.Streiff🇫🇷 (Ligier-Renault)+2 Laps
9.R.Patrese🇮🇹 (Alfa Romeo)+2 Laps
10.G.Berger🇦🇹 (Arrows-BMW)+2 Laps
11.E.Cheever🇺🇸 (Alfa Romeo)+2 Laps
12.P.Tambay🇫🇷 (Renault)+3 Laps
13.M.Surer🇨🇭 (Brabham-BMW)+10 Laps
DNF.S.Johansson🇸🇪 (Ferrari)
DNF.J.Laffite🇫🇷 (Ligier-Renault)
DNF.C.Danner🇩🇪 (Zakspeed)
DNF.I.Capelli🇮🇹 (Tyrrell-Renault)
DNF.M.Brundle🇬🇧 (Tyrrell-Renault)
DNF.T.Fabi🇮🇹 (Toleman-Hart)
DNF.P.Alliot🇫🇷 (RAM-Hart)
DNF.P.Ghinzani🇮🇹 (Toleman-Hart)
DNF.A.Jones🇦🇺 (Lola-Hart)
DNF.M.Alboreto🇮🇹 (Ferrari)
DNF.N.Piquet🇧🇷 (Brabham-BMW)
DNF.D.Warwrick🇬🇧 (Renault)
DNF.P.Martini🇮🇹 (Minardi-Motori Moderni)

[oblique dock]

Wasn’t that the race where Senna got karma from Keke Rosberg after cutting across him in his usual fashion?

[past drift]

yes

[oblique dock]

Keke Rosberg setting an example not taking anyone’s BS and also teamwork

[round swift]

1,400+ as the dynos werent able to correctly guess the correct amount, so estimation was 1,400+.

[meager pewter]

Some geez who worked/works for... Yes, even laughed at that number and said the maximum has to be 1,100 as the pressure sustain even for quali laps was too much

[round swift]

‘BMW engineers figured the engine produced around 1,400 hp at maximum boost, however the BMW engine dynamometer could not go beyond 1,280 bhp.’

https://www.carthrottle.com/post/aayXh2/

[signal flint]

Imagine if some random guy built one of those and shoved it into an old bmw

Actually I bet someone has done it already

[past drift]

i've seen brutally powerful Mk I GTIs so... wouldn't be surprised 😂

[signal flint]

Oh, how powerful we talking

[past drift]

1200 bhp iirc

[signal flint]

Omg

Bruh

That's actually terrifying

[slow grail]

day 36 of f1 first wins
richie ginther - 1965 mexican gp

[signal flint]

Them Honda were weird

Was that the sideways v12 one?

Or was that another one?

[past drift]

probably that 1, last of the 1.5L formula

now idk what do you gain from a sideways engine?

[signal flint]

A 1.5l v12?

[past drift]

yes

[signal flint]

Space

[past drift]

Ferrari briefly had one as well

[signal flint]

Bruh

Ik the 250 GTO was a 2.5,but a 1.5

That sounds insane

[past drift]

1.5L Flat-12 lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXsCbBxkr90

funnily enough, despite being so small and complex, this engine only had 1 issue

from about 16 races

[signal flint]

Huh

The only time Ferrari were reliable

[past drift]

when they had the flat 12 engines, they were really bulletproof

[signal flint]

Yea, ig that's true

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/UHSqnyoOv2E

[past drift]

ohh i see, thanks !

wasn't expecting it to be in a transverse position

[signal flint]

Why does it sound like 2 stroke when it's in idle

[idle gale]

Not the best way to end your career for a team

[past drift]

bin the wall of the pit entry while leading, classy

[slow grail]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoyWgxhhTco

[slow grail]

day 37 of f1 first wins
ludovico scarfiotti - 1966 italian gp

[sleek cargo]

last italian driver that won in Italian GP, in Ferrari

[stuck bobcat]

She thicc

[signal flint]

Mika or the girl?

[potent cloak]

Since when is Mika a she 🤨

[signal flint]

You can be whatever in 2022

[hardy briar]

Why mika sad

No like when mika sad

[potent cloak]

👨‍🦲🥱🛌

[signal flint]

Anyway it's a joke, why you getting heated

[neon vigil]

https://tenor.com/view/zidane-kiev-zizou-forocoches-real-gif-11907816

Mika has 3 championships in my book

serious note doe thats a dope ass pic ngl

[blazing blade]

2

give me a reason why it’s 3

[round swift]

2000? Im guessing

he finished second

[past drift]

he shat the bed on the last 2 races

[hallow ore]

unfortunately its not for many

[round swift]

Don’t think he is. Personally I think it’s just a frown😅

[round swift]

me niether

[idle gale]

Penske, one of those DFV era teams that didn't have the pace but it had a quite a "attention grabbing" paint scheme

[round swift]

An Italian winning at monza in a Ferrari

[analog jasper]

mika of course

[round swift]

lmao

[round swift]

Guess the car

[meager pewter]

MP4/6

[oblique dock]

Mclaren Honda MP4/6

Basic knowledge

[hallow ore]

my favorite F1 car ever

❤️

[round swift]

Yeah lol

[potent cloak]

What 💀😹

When did I get heated 🤨

[oblique dock]

Martin Brundle, 1986

[meager pewter]

https://youtu.be/nO-KKTSILf4

[slow grail]

day 38 of f1 first wins
pedro rodríguez - 1967 south african gp

[south tree]

That’s the Cooper-Maserati right?

[round swift]

Did Senna bottom out or did the steering column fail?

[woeful rapids]

I don't know

[acoustic void]

Steering column it looks like cos the bottoming out wasn’t that bad

But who knows

[round swift]

I heard Williams or the FIA or someone had to release a super long document on the cause of the crash.

If anyone has reference plz send

[round swift]

Steering column I personally believe

[past drift]

same, the steering column theory is the one i favour

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/w2f2i7tUN7k

A good example to back up the steering column theory

[hallow ore]

neither would ever do that because the black box was removed from the car to make sure the authorities in Italy wouldnt get the data. they would never release this info.

[idle gale]

Some people do tend to forget that the FW16 was made to have the electronic assists from the FW14B and FW15C. But was forced to remove them to comply with the 94 regulations, which is why the FW16 was quite a difficult car to drive until the upgrades came in. Although it is debatable that the upgrades came in too late to have potentially saved Ayrton

[idle gale]

Piquet and De Cesaris's argument after crashing into each other

[round swift]

“In February 1995, a 500-page report by a team of judicial investigators was handed over to Italian prosecutors which attributed Senna's crash to steering column failure caused by a pre-race adjustment.”

Is this report public?

Does anyone have public primary sources of the Senna trial?

From Italian authorities

[neon vigil]

Oh u didn't get the joke

[neon vigil]

Did senna die on impact?

I was watching a video that said a tire came loose and hit his head

[round swift]

He crashed and then a wishbone went through his body

[round swift]

No

[neon vigil]

What's a wish bone

[round swift]

A suspension arm

[neon vigil]

Oh damn

Did he die immediately

[past drift]

physically no

[oblique dock]

No. He was pronounced dead in hospital

[round swift]

No

[past drift]

but he was probably brain dead on the instant though

[neon vigil]

I hope he wasn't feeling pain at that point

But RIP

But its a good thing to see f1 cars being so safe now

[oblique dock]

iirc a piece of the suspension column punctured Senna’s helmet and struck him above the right eye, which then led to his brain damage

[past drift]

one of the wishbones yes, as said above

[oblique dock]

I guessed I missed reading it

[slow grail]

day 39 of f1 first wins
denny hulme - 1967 monaco gp

[woeful rapids]

Denny Hulme was underrated

Is underrated

[round swift]

He was better in sports cars then a formula car

But nonetheless definitely top 30 driver

[round swift]

Alain Prost with an Acura Helmet Sponsor

“During the morning practice on Saturday, Prost spun backward into a wall and damaged the monocoque and gearbox. It was the first monocoque Prost had broken since joining the team in 1984. Prost then had to take Senna's spare car for the race.”

[analog jasper]

damn

[past drift]

it probably took de Cesaris 2 races at McLaren to crack a chassis

[paper jacinth]

Unless Ayrton help him to race for not lose points in title fight

But the relationship between the two began to fail after the Imola and becomes worse in France (Where Alain announces he will exit for the McLaren for 1990)

[past drift]

he won the race btw

[paper jacinth]

After Ayrton got DNF with the Honda engine

Hahahaha

[past drift]

he had an electronic failure there

[oblique dock]

Bellof

[round swift]

Yup

Senna was leading until lap 33 and he retired on lap 44 with electrical issues

[slow grail]

day 40 of f1 first wins
jacky ickx - 1968 french gp

[past drift]

sad day that

[oblique dock]

Marred by the untimely death of Jo Schlesser.

He was driving the Honda RA302, which John Surtees refused to drive.

It also used magnesium parts, which played a key role in the fire

[past drift]

and it’s why john didn’t drive it

[oblique dock]

RIP Jo Schlesser and John Surtees

[past drift]

ickx put his laurel crown where schlesser died

[oblique dock]

That’s very touching.

[round swift]

Doesn’t magnesium catch on fire easier?

Didn’t they know this though??

[oblique dock]

Yes.

[round swift]

Why would they use it then

[past drift]

lighter

much lighter than aluminium

[round swift]

So is aluminum

Oh

[oblique dock]

Ferrari used Magnesium parts in 1976

And look what happened at the Nordschleife

[round swift]

Yup

When was the last F1 car to use magnesium

1980s?

[oblique dock]

I really don’t know.

I’m going to take a hard guess and maybe say the early 1980’s

[round swift]

Yeah

[round swift]

Williams FW12R

[signal flint]

Triangle

[round swift]

First career win in Monaco must feel amazing

[round swift]

Did you know that during the Hungarian Grand Prix in 1991, Senna had two hard tyres on the left side and two softs on his right, which would be impossible to execute nowadays.

And won the race…

https://www.ayrtonsenna.com.br/en/estrategia-senna-para-vencer-na-hungria-em-1991-pneus-duros-de-um-lado-e-macios-de-outro/

[round swift]

an underrated driver,the first out of two drivers who won the world championship without starting in pole position, the other being lauda in 1984

[round swift]

also a tragic day in f1 with the death of Lorenzo Bandini r.i.p

[idle gale]

A lot of people think that the Williams FW14B was the car that introduced Active Suspension. But it was actually the Lotus Type 92 that first used Active Suspension, I believe

Although it wasn't as effective like with the Williams version because of, you know, early days of the tech

[meager pewter]

First the 92

Then the 99T at Monaco

https://youtu.be/Dnk6fzh29pc

Damn the response on this system is rapid for the time

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/l8SF7Duplwc

[craggy ember]

Could Schumacher have won 1997 legitimately? did he have the pace or strategy to beat Villeneuve on track at Jerez?

[past drift]

there was a 1 gap point in favour of Michael

before Jerez

with all of this in mind, he had the pace to beat Villeneuve

[hybrid mango]

OTD

13.08.78

Formula 1 Grosser Preis von Österreich 1978 Race Results🇦🇹

1.R.Peterson🇸🇪 (Lotus-Ford) 1h41m21.57s
2.P.Depailler🇫🇷 (Tyrrell-Ford)+47.44s
3.G.Villeneuve🇨🇦 (Ferrari)+1.39.76
4.E.Fittipaldi🇧🇷 (Fittipaldi-Ford)+1 Lap
5.J.Laffite🇫🇷 (Ligier-Matra)+1 Lap
6.V.Brambilla🇮🇹 (Surtees-Ford)+1 Lap
7.J.Watson🇬🇧 (Brabham-Alfa Romeo)+1 Lap
8.B.Lunger🇺🇸 (McLaren-Ford)+2 Laps
9.R.Arnoux🇫🇷 (Martini-Ford)+2 Laps
DNF.C.Regazzoni🇨🇭 (Shadow-Ford)
DNF.K.Rosberg🇫🇮 (Wolf-Ford)
DSQ.D.Daly🇮🇪 (Ensign-Ford)
DNF.P.Tambay🇫🇷 (McLaren-Ford)
DNF.H.Joachim Stuck🇩🇪 (Shadow-Ford)
DNF.J.Pierre Jabouille🇫🇷 (Renault)
DSQ.C.Reutemann🇦🇷 (Ferrari)
DNF.N.Lauda🇦🇹 (Brabham-Alfa Romeo)
DNF.D.Pironi🇫🇷 (Tyrrell-Ford)
DNF.J.Hunt🇬🇧 (McLaren-Ford)
DNF.A.Jones🇦🇺 (Williams-Ford)
DNF.R.Patrese🇮🇹 (Arrows-Ford)
DNF.H.Ertl🇦🇹 (Ensign-Ford)
DNF.H.Rebaque🇲🇽 (Lotus-Ford)
DNF.N.Piquet🇧🇷 (McLaren-Ford)
DNF.J.Scheckter🇿🇦 (Wolf-Ford)
DNF.M.Andretti🇺🇸 (Lotus-Ford)
DNS.A.Merzario🇮🇹 (Merzario-Ford)
DNS.J.Mass🇩🇪 (ATS-Ford)
DNS.R.Keegan🇬🇧 (Surtees-Ford)
DNS.H.Binder🇦🇹 (ATS-Ford)
DNS.R.Stommelen🇩🇪 (Arrows-Ford)
DNS.B.Henton🇬🇧 (Surtees-Ford)

[slow grail]

day 41 of f1 first wins
jo siffert - 1968 british gp

[signal flint]

Is that a BRM?

[past drift]

Rob Walker entered Lotus

[signal flint]

Huh

Didn't Siffert end up with Honda?

Then crashed at the French GP

Oh no

That was someone else

Same year th9

[oblique dock]

Jo Schlesser.

[signal flint]

That's it

[past drift]

he ended up at brm

[signal flint]

Oh

[past drift]

finished 5th for his last season before dying ar Brands Hatch in a non championship race

[signal flint]

Oh, ik he died, but I got Schlesswr and Siffert mixed up

[past drift]

ok 😄

[round swift]

1930-40s?

[timber warren]

Yes

[round swift]

Or is that 1950s

Oh ok

[oblique dock]

The time John Watson subbed for Niki Lauda in 1985

[slow grail]

day 42 of f1 first wins
jochen rindt - 1969 us gp

[manic reef]

Rindt

[past drift]

wild he had to wait so late in his career for a win

[woeful rapids]

Cool

[idle gale]

It's still surprising and funny that nobody noticed that Hans Heyer entered a race, when he wasn't allowed to, until his car broke down

[slow grail]

the true triple crown

dnq dnf dsq

[round swift]

Lmao

[slow grail]

day 43 of f1 first wins
clay regazzoni - 1970 italian gp

[burnt stag]

Day 44?

[frozen prism]

Rookie Senna

[novel briar]

1990 Prost in his f1-90

[past drift]

the first variant of the 641 isn’t very pretty

the 641/2 is a lot more pleasing to the eye

[oblique dock]

Possibly my favorite F1 car to never win a championship

[round swift]

Yeah

[round swift]

It also was the first F1 car to use traction control

[hybrid mango]

OTD

16.08.81

Formula 1 Großer Preis Von Österreich 1981 Race Results🇦🇹

1.J.Laffite🇫🇷 (Ligier-Matra) 1h27m36.47s
2.R.Arnoux🇫🇷 (Renault)+5.17s
3.N.Piquet🇧🇷 (Brabham-Ford)+7.34s
4.A.Jones🇦🇺 (Williams-Ford)+12.04s
5.C.Reutemann🇦🇷 (Williams-Ford)+31.85s
6.J.Watson🇬🇧 (McLaren-Ford)+1.31.14
7.E.De Angelis🇮🇹 (Lotus-Ford)+1 Lap
8.A.De Cesaris🇮🇹 (McLaren-Ford)+1 Lap
9.D.Pironi🇫🇷 (Ferrari)+1 Lap
10.J.Pierre Jarier🇫🇷 (Osella-Ford)+2 Laps
11.D.Daly🇮🇪 (March-Ford)+6 Laps
DNF.M.Andretti🇺🇸 (Alfa Romeo)
DNF.S.Borgudd🇸🇪 (ATS-Ford)
DNF.R.Patrese🇮🇹 (Arrows-Ford)
DNF.E.Salazar🇨🇱 (Ensign-Ford)
DNF.M.Alboreto🇮🇹 (Tyrrell-Ford)
DNF.B.Giacomelli🇮🇹 (Alfa Romeo)
DNF.H.Rebaque🇲🇽 (Brabham-Ford)
DNF.S.Stohr🇮🇹 (Arrows-Ford)
DNF.A.Prost🇫🇷 (Renault)
DNF.P.Tambay🇫🇷 (Ligier-Matra)
DNF.N.Mansell🇬🇧 (Lotus-Ford)
DNF.G.Villeneuve🇨🇦 (Ferrari)
DNF.M.Surer🇨🇭 (Theodore-Ford)
DNS.E.Cheever🇺🇸 (Tyrrell-Ford)
DNS.D.Warwrick🇬🇧 (Toleman-Hart)
DNS.B.Henton🇬🇧 (Toleman-Hart)
DNS.B.Gappiani🇮🇹 (Osella-Ford)

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/Y-_AJbpbV7c

[past drift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n9Wfcp5sMHs reminds me of this

[slow grail]

day 44 of f1 first wins
emerson fittipaldi - 1970 us gp

[queen saddle]

Happy Sad Birthday to this mf

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JYEVoybF84

[past drift]

if you don't want to wish him his birthday, you can also not talk about him 😄

[queen saddle]

Ah right, no one talks about him here.

[past drift]

we do, but the way you phrased your message was odd

[queen saddle]

I'm just greeting him in the same way someone would say "bad morning" to a teacher. lmao

[past drift]

aight

[queen saddle]

(for legal reasons, the greeting is a joke)

[oblique dock]

Happy 70th birthday to the runner up to Carlos Reutemann in 1981, Alain Prost in 1983, and Nigel Mansell in 1987.

For legal reasons the greeting is a joke

[queen saddle]

Last bit should be rewritten as "the man who beat Nigel Mansell in equal machinery in 1987."

[oblique dock]

Whilst suffering from a loss of vision due to an accident

(I still like him as a driver but not as a person off the racetrack)

[sleek cargo]

despite the shit he done this year, he's still an F1 legend, no doubt about that

[analog jasper]

Happy birthday

still not better than prost

[timber warren]

Lotus 49 1967

[oblique dock]

Yeah

Then it gave Graham Hill his 2nd world title in its second year of competition

[past drift]

hmm yeah that’s gotta be it tbh.

[south tree]

A polemic legend

[south tree]

Ferrari 412 T1 and T2

[round swift]

Sennas pink sheet Qualifying Monaco 1988

I can’t find the 1:23.9?

Is it lap 9?

[past drift]

ye 9

23.998 is his pole time

[hybrid mango]

OTD

17.08.75

Formula 1 Memphis Großer Preis von Österreich 1975 Race Results🇦🇹

1.V.Brambilla🇮🇹 (March-Ford) 57m56.69s
2.J.Hunt🇬🇧 (Hesketh-Ford)+27.03s
3.T.Pryce🇬🇧 (Shadow-Ford)+34.85s
4.J.Mass🇩🇪 (McLaren-Ford)+1.12.66
5.R.Peterson🇸🇪 (Lotus-Ford)+1.23.33
6.N.Lauda🇦🇹 (Ferrari)+1.30.28
7.C.Regazzoni🇨🇭 (Ferrari)+1.39.07
8.J.Scheckter🇿🇦 (Tyrrell-Ford)+1 Lap
9.E.Fittipaldi🇧🇷 (McLaren-Ford)+1 Lap
10.J.Watson🇬🇧 (Surtees-Ford)+1 Lap
11.P.Depailler🇫🇷 (Tyrrell-Ford)+1 Lap
12.C.Amon🇳🇿 (Ensign-Ford)+1 Lap
13.B.Lunger🇺🇸 (Hesketh-Ford)+1 Lap
14.C.Reutemann🇦🇷 (Brabham-Ford)+1 Lap
15.T.Brise🇬🇧 (Hill-Ford)+1 Lap
16.R.Stommelen🇩🇪 (Hill-Ford)+2 Laps
17.L.Lombardi🇮🇹 (March-Ford)+3 Laps
18.R.Wunderink🇳🇱 (Ensign-Ford)+4 Laps
DNF.H.Ertl🇦🇹 (Hesketh-Ford)
DNF.J.Laffite🇫🇷 (Williams-Ford)
DNF.C.Pace🇧🇷 (Brabham-Ford)
DNF.J.Vonlanthen🇨🇭 (Williams-Ford)
DNF.H.Joachim Stuck🇩🇪 (March-Ford)
DNF.J.Pierre Jarier🇫🇷 (Shadow-Matra)
DNF.B.Evans🇬🇧 (BRM)
DNF.M.Andretti🇺🇸 (Parnelli-Ford)
DNS.W.Fittipaldi🇧🇷 (Fittipaldi-Ford)
DNS.M.Donohue🇺🇸 (March-Ford)
DNS.B.Henton🇬🇧 (Lotus-Ford)
DNS.T.Trimmer🇬🇧 (Maki-Ford)

[sleek cargo]

rip Donohue

[slow grail]

day 45 of f1 first wins
mario andretti - 1971 south african gp

[round swift]

Crashed passing the finish line

[manic reef]

Pryce had podiums?

I didn't know tbh

[signal flint]

Yea he was good

Then he died

[round swift]

He wasn’t that good. He only held two laps in 1st for the whole of his career

[sleek cargo]

well i mean Shadow didn't had a good car

but he was a man he didn't wanted to be famous or something, and because of that he refused to sign with Lotus in 1975

[manic reef]

Tragic way to go

Was that his only podium?

[frozen prism]

to be fair Lotus was also pretty mediocre in 1975

they were still using the heavily outdated Lotus 72

[past drift]

76 brazil as well

[frozen prism]

Pryce was one place out of the points for most of his career

but when he wasnt he was always running really high

[signal flint]

And he was the only Welsh man in f1 I believe

[sleek cargo]

it was, but it apparently was a multi year contract, and Lotus in 1976-1978 were good

[slow grail]

day 46 of f1 first wins
peter gethin - 1971 italian gp

[frozen prism]

The passing of the Brazillian torch

[idle gale]

It may had been a shortly lived backmarker but man did it looked decently good. It also sounded pretty good thanks to its, albeit heavy and unreliable, Lambo V12

When Ayrton had a BMW powered F1 car in his hands. Albeit it was during testing

[hallow ore]

the Brabham BT52 in question

[south tree]

Imagine what could have been if Senna moved to Brabham instead of Toleman

[past drift]

he would have been stuck in an unreliable team for long

[south tree]

Well that’s true, BMW engines are always powerful but unreliable

[past drift]

in 1984 Piquet scored 9 poles but didn’t score a point for the first 7 races or so

it was pole -> dnf

[south tree]

the most powerful engine at F1 ever is BMW’s

They had like 1350+hp

But I think they weren’t reliable at all

[past drift]

that was in qualifying trim ye

the engine would do 32,000 revs

and blow up.

soo one slow lap, one bonkers lap, and then it might blow up in the cooldown lap

[south tree]

Ol’ days

[round swift]

Hi

Ey

[meager pewter]

32?

[past drift]

i think i read 32 or 35k revolutions total before 💥

[meager pewter]

Ohhh not per minute

[past drift]

no 😄

[south tree]

We should wait a few decades to reach that limit

[meager pewter]

That's like... Electric Motor territory only

I doubt there's much point going up there

[past drift]

probably not, we’ve reached 20 odd k rpm at the end of the V10 NA era iirc, not a lot of margin to be gained with engines we don’t even want anymore

[hybrid mango]

OTD

19.08.74

Formula 1 Memphis Großer Preis von Österreich 1974 Race Results🇦🇹

1.C.Reutemann🇦🇷 (Brabham-Ford) 1h28m44.720s
2.D.Hulme🇳🇿 (McLaren-Ford)+42.92s
3.J.Hunt🇬🇧 (Hesketh-Ford)+1.01.54
4.J.Watson🇬🇧 (Brabham-Ford)+1.09.39
5.C.Regazzoni🇨🇭 (Ferrari)+1.13.08
6.V.Brambilla🇮🇹 (March-Ford)+1.13.82
7.D.Hobbs🇬🇧 (McLaren-Ford)+1 Lap
8.J.Pierre Jarier🇫🇷 (Shadow-Ford)+2 Laps
9.D.Quester🇦🇹 (Surtees-Ford)+3 Laps
10.T.Schenken🇦🇺 (Trojan-Ford)+4 Laps
11.H.Joachim Stuck🇩🇪 (March-Ford)+6 Laps
12.G.Hill🇬🇧 (Lola-Ford)+6 Laps
DNF.I.Ashley🇬🇧 (Token-Ford)
DNF.R.Peterson🇸🇪 (Lotus-Ford)
DNF.J.Ickx🇧🇪 (Lotus-Ford)
DNF.P.Depailler🇫🇷 (Tyrrell-Ford)
DNF.C.Pace🇧🇷 (Brabham-Ford)
DNF.E.Fittipaldi🇧🇷 (McLaren-Ford)
DNF.J.Laffite🇫🇷 (Williams-Ford)
DNF.A.Merzario🇮🇹 (Williams-Ford)
DNF.T.Pryce🇬🇧 (Shadow-Ford)
DNF.J.Pierre Beltoise🇫🇷 (BRM)
DNF.N.Lauda🇦🇹 (Ferrari)
DNF.R.Stommelen🇩🇪 (Lola-Ford)
DNF.J.Scheckter🇿🇦 (Tyrrell-Ford)
DNS.I.Scheckter🇿🇦 (Hesketh-Ford)
DNS.L.Kinnunen🇫🇮 (Surtees-Ford)
DNS.D.Bell🇬🇧 (Surtees-Ford)
DNS.J.Pierre Jabouille🇫🇷 (Surtees-Ford)
DNS.H.Koinigg🇦🇹 (Brabham-Ford)

[magic venture]

Is there any full race replys around from the 70s? Fttv has none

[past drift]

hmmm i've seen a few, from 1978 and 1979

but i don't remember earlier ones

[magic venture]

I wish there was some from 76, I would like to see the conditions of the 76 Japanese Grandprix

[past drift]

oh this one might be actually!

thanks to the japanese television

[magic venture]

It’s on YouTube it says

I wonder why I didn’t look sooner

[slow grail]

day 47 of f1 first wins
françois cevert - 1971 us gp

[south tree]

First and only

And he died 2 years later on that same track…F

[past drift]

:/

https://i0.wp.com/f1nal-lap.be/wp-content/uploads/2019/11/François-Cevert-couv.jpg?fit=1066%2C1200&ssl=1

these eyes tho

[meager pewter]

Well I didn't mean practically, although yes true. I meant technically, even if you could get up there, there's no torque for that power

[past drift]

is that a problem? i've never really understood how torque was useful

[meager pewter]

Because Torque makes Power useful

[round swift]

One of the best looking F1 cars

Ferrari 639

[signal flint]

People that think the 1976 ligier is nice deserve death

How does anyone find this nice

It's a literal jelly bean

[manic reef]

Beautiful eyes, RIP

[south tree]

It’s nice on it’s revised version

The one with no air scoop

[signal flint]

Eh

I wonder if it sounds nice

[queen saddle]

Proof that Monty Python are F1 fans?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_kqXsrZcZg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SL14nqc6vO8

[slow grail]

day 48 of f1 first wins
jean-pierre beltoise - 1972 monaco gp

[hardy briar]

Wild, first win was Monaco!?

[past drift]

in the rain

[plucky heron]

beautiful

[native totem]

Idk if this is real but i believe it is

[timber warren]

It is

3 cars wide

[weak ridge]

isnt that from the movie Grand Prix

[native totem]

I Don't exactly know

[weak ridge]

nevermind its from a movie called "Mediterranean Holiday"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C5C9UhNTVV4

[native totem]

It's a movie?

I'll delete it then

[weak ridge]

is that against the rules?

[native totem]

I don't see anything against it

[slow grail]

day 49 of1 f1 first wins
ronnie peterson - 1973 french gp

[round swift]

What are those yellow wires for?

[signal flint]

Probably for fuel

And coloured over time

[meager pewter]

Them's the damn fuel lines 🅱️

[idle gale]

Minutes before the chain reaction starts

[round swift]

top 10 moments before disaster

[timber warren]

No

Grand Prix was released in 1966

[slow grail]

day 50 of f1 first wins
peter revson - 1973 british gp

[manic reef]

I forgot Revson won races

[idle gale]

"What's going on with Ralf Schumacher's car? It's up in the air!"

[round swift]

Peterson was a legend. He's very underrated

[hybrid mango]

OTD

23.08.64

Formula 1 Großer Preis von Österreich 1964 Race Results🇦🇹

1.L.Bandini🇮🇹 (Ferrari) 2h06m18.23s
2.R.Ginther🇺🇸 (BRM)+6.18s
3.B.Anderson🇬🇧 (Brabham-Climax)+3 Laps
4.T.Maggs🇿🇦 (BRM)+3 Laps
5.I.Ireland🇬🇧 (BRP-BRM)+3 Laps
6.J.Bonnier🇸🇪 (Brabham-Climax)+4 Laps
7.G.Baghetti🇮🇹 (BRM)+9 Laps
8.M.Hailwood🇬🇧 (Lotus-BRM)+10 laps
9.J.Brabham🇦🇺 (Brabham-Climax)+29 Laps
DNF.J.Rindt🇦🇹 (Brabham-BRM)
DNF.P.Hill🇺🇸 (Cooper-Climax)
DNF.D.Gurney🇺🇸 (Brabham-Climax)
DNF.B.McLaren🇳🇿 (Cooper-Climax)
DNF.M.Spence🇬🇧 (Lotus-Climax)
DNF.J.Clark🇬🇧 (Lotus-Climax)
DNF.T.Taylor🇬🇧 (BRP-BRM)
DNF.J.Siffert🇨🇭(Brabham-BRM)
DNF.J.Surtees🇬🇧 (Ferrari)
DNF.C.Amon🇳🇿 (Lotus-Climax)
DNF.G.Hill🇬🇧 (BRM)

[slow grail]

day 51 of f1 first wins
carlos reutemann - 1974 south african gp

[round swift]

Didn’t realized that he won in 1974 and being the 51st

[past drift]

you're gonna like who comes tomorrow

[signal flint]

It's me

[round swift]

No it’s me

[signal flint]

Oh damn

Wait did Murray Walker even have a f1 career?

[analog jasper]

lauda

gonna bet its lauda

[round swift]

It indeed is lauda

[round swift]

No but he did drive an f1 car

Lol

[weak ridge]

yea i know I found the original footage and it was from 1962

[chrome basin]

agreed, same with pironi

they were fast

tbh peterson could've won a wdc or 2 with the raw pace he had

[round swift]

Arnoux, Alan jones also

[oblique dock]

Jose Carlos Pace???

[round swift]

Jose Carlos Pace would be 54

[oblique dock]

Oh yeah, he won in 1977

[slow grail]

day 52 of f1 first wins
niki lauda - 1974 spanish gp

[oblique dock]

Wait nvm, Pace won in 1975

[eager mesa]

Wait how many different race winners are there?

105 or so?

[acoustic void]

113 I think

Could be more

[past drift]

112

[eager mesa]

Interesting, so there were as many winners in the first 30 or so years as in the last 45+(?) Years

[round swift]

112

Carlos Sainz being the most recent one

[round swift]

Basically. Especially in the 1950s and 1960s because that’s when it started

[eager mesa]

Does someone have stats on new racewinners per decade?

[timber warren]

Idk

[hybrid mango]

OTD

25.08.91

[round swift]

🤩

[slow grail]

day 53 of f1 race winners
jody scheckter - 1974 swedish gp

[timber warren]

Is Auto Union and Audi the same?

[manic reef]

Kinda is

[past drift]

yes

audi is one of the brands of auto union, and at some point auto union was rebranded as audi

[timber warren]

Cool

Auto Union is back in F1 by 2026

[meager pewter]

Auto Union became officially Audi again after merging with NSU in 1969 to make Audi-NSU Auto-Union and then just Audi in 1985

[south tree]

They never competed in F1

Just in the pre-F1 ‘Grand Prix’ era

[meager pewter]

Auto Union was in the East so

[slow grail]

day 54 of f1 first wins
carlos pace - 1975 brazilian gp

[oblique dock]

It’s a damn shame he died 2 years later

[south tree]

Yep

Btw great pfp of yours

Gotta love M1 cup

[oblique dock]

Thanks

[stuck bobcat]

Tmw u so fast you die in monza but are still wdc because you have such a gap

Jochen Rindt

[manic reef]

Great driver gone way too soon

[round swift]

Ronnieee

[past drift]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ah9piu5Vyk

[hardy briar]

Oh hey

Mario’s car but

And a different gp

[past drift]

nice diecast 👍

[hardy briar]

Model

I made it

Plastic

[past drift]

3d printed?

[hardy briar]

Nope

[past drift]

that's even better tho 😮 how did you source all the parts

[hardy briar]

Model kit

[past drift]

ahhh gotcha

such a good looking car that 79

[hardy briar]

Sorry for crap photo quality

[signal flint]

I shouldve done that for mine

[round swift]

What brand

[hardy briar]

Tamiya

[oblique dock]

https://youtu.be/HqpxcN1aatA

[slow grail]

day 55 of f1 first wins
jochen mass - 1975 spanish gp

[oblique dock]

Germany’s last F1 race winner until Michael Schumacher

[south tree]

First and only win I believe

[manic reef]

Was that the one spanish gp?

[signal flint]

What happend?

[slow grail]

gpda drivers go on strike citing inadequate barrier security

track staff attempt to fix it for saturday with some teams sending help

drivers still unhappy with emerson fittipaldi withdrawing from the race

the race lasts 6 laps before rolf stommelen's rear wing breaks off and sends him into the barrier

the car shoots over the barriers and kills 4 people

stommelen survives but breaks leg, wrist and 2 ribs

race gets called off after 29 laps and drivers get half points, the first f1 race where half points are awarded

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/single-seaters/f1/paradise-lost-montjuic-and-the-1975-spanish-grand-prix

[south tree]

Yep

Also the only race where a woman ends in points places (Lella Lombardi in a March)

[naive cloud]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5rgc3pGqTk&ab_channel=CiaronSmith

[manic reef]

You just a year short my guy

I guess this goes to #f1｜media

[abstract shoal]

In Monaco to make it interesting you should have to use a old livery even if it's not your team anymore like Aston Martin can use racing point Merc can use brawn

thoughts

[past drift]

It's the biggest race for sponsors

[slow grail]

day 56 of f1 first wins
james hunt - 1975 dutch gp

[round swift]

This isn’t considered a classic in this channel

[south tree]

Compared to the past these new cars are like limousines in length terms

[analog jasper]

damn the first aussie f1 driver was a fighter ace

[static jacinth]

You will find that most of the early racers were all ex fighter pilots in ww2

[analog jasper]

yes

it's very interesting to see

[slow grail]

day 57 of f1 first wins
vittorio brambilla - 1975 austrian gp

[round swift]

Lmao yeah

[harsh elk]

oh yeah that was significant

[queen saddle]

"Hey Alain! I come from the future. In four years, that Brazilian in Toleman is gonna be your teammate and beat you in equal machinery then ruin your chances of winning the WDC while you're in different teams from 1990 to 1991. If you wanna get three extra WDCs, you and Niki are gonna have to deal with him the easy way. Take these..." [pulls out guitar case]

[round swift]

When did Senna beat The Professor in equal machinery point-wise?

Just curious

[past drift]

never

still he beat him over the course of a season once

in equal machinery.

[round swift]

Exactly

[oblique dock]

The only thing that Senna won at in equal machinery was achieving more pole positions

That’s it

[round swift]

Yeah

[hybrid mango]

OTD

30.08.98

Formula 1 Foster's Belgian Grand Prix 1998 Race Results🇧🇪

1.D.Hill🇬🇧 (Jordan-Mugen-Honda) 1h43m47.407s
2.R.Schumacher🇩🇪 (Jordan-Mugen-Honda)+0.932s
3.J.Alesi🇫🇷 (Sauber-Petronas)+7.240s
4.H.Harald Frentzen🇩🇪 (Williams-Mecachrome)+32.243s
5.P.Diniz🇧🇷 (Arrows)+51.682s
6.J.Trulli🇮🇹 (Prost-Peugeot)+2 Laps
7.D.Coulthard🇬🇧 (McLaren-Mercedes)+5 Laps
8.S.Nakano🇯🇵 (Minardi-Ford)+5 Laps
DNF.G.Fisichella🇮🇹 (Benetton-Playlife)
DNF.M.Schumacher🇩🇪 (Ferrari)
DNF.E.Irvine🇬🇧 (Ferrari)
DNF.E.Tuero🇦🇷 (Minardi-Ford)
DNF.J.Villeneuve🇨🇦 (Williams-Mecachrome)
DNF.T.Takagi🇯🇵 (Tyrrell-Ford)
DNF.J.Verstappen🇳🇱 (Stewart-Ford)
DNF.M.Hakkinen🇫🇮 (McLaren-Mercedes)
DNF.A.Wurz🇦🇹 (Benetton-Playlife)
DNF.J.Herbert🇬🇧 (Sauber-Petronas)
DNS.R.Barrichello🇧🇷 (Stewart-Ford)
DNS.O.Panis🇫🇷 (Prost-Peugeot)
DNS.M.Salo🇫🇮 (Arrows)
DNS.R.Rosset🇧🇷 (Tyrrell-Ford)

[past drift]

classic 90s race, less than 10 cars finish and less than 6 in the lead lap

[slow grail]

day 58 of f1 first wins
john watson - 1976 austrian gp

[hardy briar]

Beautiful art

[hardy briar]

“Big balls”

[hardy briar]

Oh goodness… that one

[oblique dock]

And after that, John Watson shaved his beard as per a bet with Roger Penske

[graceful root]

why cant i post videos😒

[analog jasper]

never did

but 1988 goes to senna because of the rule

https://twitter.com/MSI_Images/status/1564579946651357184?t=olHy6lcb50aGmO_Q7mpYXA&s=19

[round swift]

Yeah true

[manic reef]

I didn't even know Diniz scored points tbh

Forgettable driver

[past drift]

brasilian pay driver

no!

[round swift]

Lol

[manic reef]

Brazilian shit driver here for anyone who is interested

[oblique dock]

At least he isn’t Riccardo Rosset

[slow grail]

day 59 of f1 first wins
gunnar nilsson - 1977 belgian gp

[sleek cargo]

gone too early..

1978 was a horrible year for Swedish motorsport

[south tree]

RIP Mark Donohue

[round swift]

Rip Ronnie Peterson

[eager mesa]

Why was it so bad? Detailed pls 🙂

[south tree]

The 2 best swedish drivers of the moment and the only 2 on F1 (Gunnar Nilsson and Ronnie Peterson) died that year

Ronnie had a crash on the Italian GP held at Monza

And Gunnar died a few months later due to cancer

[dapper siren]

dang

[frozen prism]

yup either pilots or war mechanics/engineers

[frozen prism]

more like a classic 70s/80s race

[frozen prism]

such a tragedy what happened to him

[eager mesa]

Damn

[eager mesa]

How good COULD they have been then

[frozen prism]

well Nilsson already had a win and 3 podiums in only 2 seasons but originally left Lotus for Ensign until his terminal cancer diagnosis

Ronnie Peterson was probably the fastest or 2nd fastest driver in his time always taking a lot of the pole positions

and he was the runner-up in the championship to Andretti in 1978 even when he died before the season ended

but he was the #2 driver so he had no chance to win the title that year anyway

[eager mesa]

Interesting, so very strong contenders

[frozen prism]

as he had to give way to Andretti in races

he and Fittipaldi also had a rivalry in 1973 that cost both the drivers and Lotus of the championship

This was Ronnie sewing up one of his tracksuits a few hours before his fatal accident

but keep in mind Ronnie was using a yellow racing suit in the race

heres a photo of Nilsson and Peterson just months before their deaths

[eager mesa]

Is there a clip of his crash?

[frozen prism]

theres a lot

[past drift]

the crash didn’t kill him, he just had a broken leg

as spectacular as the footage is

[round swift]

He died overnight at the hospital I believe

Fat got into his blood stream? Idk