f1-games

[mystic zephyr]

I’m at Abu Dhabi now

Chapter 14 i think

Not sure

[orchid viper]

Every time I get to race I get p1😂

[mystic zephyr]

Lmao same

Even on hard difficulty

[orchid viper]

It’s too easy

[trail grove]

Career mode 2 players ps4or5 anyone?

[lyric scaffold]

Hard Difficulty is easy

They should have Expert Mode even

[leaden river]

ok so my desk is super thin so to mount my wheel i have to use a bit of wood

guess who forgot the wood

while taking the wheel off

and dropped some wood on their foot

[lyric scaffold]

if anybody is on xbox one, how fast is the loading time

[shell flower]

Anyone wanna do multiplayer career? (Steam/Both co-op and contract are ok for me/AI 80/Europe/English or Czech) UK time + 1 is my timezone (Can change settings and can change track count too)

[ionic timber]

I just started on my team

And im above alpine

Lol

[trail grove]

Lol

[lyric scaffold]

Goated Team 😎

[keen brook]

There's the biggest GOAT missing.😂

[lyric scaffold]

Who

[normal magnet]

Mahaveer Ruganathan

[lyric scaffold]

Oh

Him

[normal magnet]

the greatest driver of all time

[keen brook]

exactly

[trail grove]

Im procuring co op career
Ps4
Dificulty your choose
Race 25% or 50%
Quali short or full no one shot

[keen brook]

In F1 2022 we will have Deledda.

[lyric scaffold]

Siding with him I see. Unwise words

[lyric scaffold]

Shit

[normal magnet]

oh poop

[keen brook]

the new GOAT😂

[lyric scaffold]

At least they'll keep Samaia next year

[keen brook]

That's correct.

[trail grove]

Pls f1 2022 crossplay

[keen brook]

I really don't know who'll be my 1st team mate, but hey, there are 2 months to decide.😂

[lyric scaffold]

Choose Samaia 😎

[keen brook]

I want a good driver.

[lyric scaffold]

Fine let's give you a good driver.

[keen brook]

How is it in 2021, can you now choose between all F2 drivers or again just between a selection of 6 or 7 drivers?

[lyric scaffold]

6 to 7

7?

[keen brook]

I don't know how much it was in 2020 but it's the same in 2021, right?

[trail grove]

¹¹

¹²³⁴⁵⁶⁷⁸⁹⁰

[lyric scaffold]

I believe so

Wait did you got the game?

[keen brook]

I want to keep it realistic again, so my F1 teammate should be of course Ocon again, so I'll drive with Renault engine as well so it would make sense to sign a Renault academy driver so Lundgaard would be the best choice then?

There are Zhou and Lundgaard or is there any other Renault academy driver as well?

Alpine academy

It isn't Renault anymore.😂

[lyric scaffold]

Guess so. Lundgaard, Zhou or Giuliano Alesi. Alesi he's not Alpine Academy but he left the Ferrari Academy

I could even say Daruvala but he's in the Red Bull Program

[trail grove]

Anyone have a design for myteam car no mods?

[lyric scaffold]

No unfortunately

I use PS4

Yes PS4 not PS5

[trail grove]

Me too

[keen brook]

same

[lyric scaffold]

Wait then maybe

[keen brook]

PS4 gang

[trail grove]

Yeah

[lyric scaffold]

😎

Perhaps I use the Livery that only has the stripes on each side.

If that works

[trail grove]

This is my car

[meager ore]

Someone want to maybe Be career partner for alpine but cant play before 28 july beacause i am on vacation and maybe be from norway👍

[trail grove]

PC xbox ps

?

[meager ore]

Pc

[trail grove]

I'm ps4 sorry

[meager ore]

Okey 👍

[lyric scaffold]

Hello, guys can u help me? Im playing f1 2021 on xbox, and i found a glitch/bugg. Im playing with my team and i can't move forward in the time.

[meager ore]

Have you reset the game?

[lyric scaffold]

Yes 3 times

[normal halo]

I have the worst powertrain in my career (in terms of upgrades) with McLaren and am still 4th in the constructors championship

[meager ore]

Ohh sorry dont no have to fix it😔

Lol

[lyric scaffold]

No problem 😁

[normal halo]

I am currently 6th with Lando in 10th and 4th in constructors in between Ferrari ahead and Racing Point behind

[meager ore]

Wich dificulty have you?

[trail grove]

Im procuring co op career
Ps4
Dificulty your choose
Race 25% or 50%
Quali short or full no one shot

[normal halo]

70 😅

[meager ore]

Cool

[normal halo]

Yet these are my race results so far

[meager ore]

Is someone from norway??

[trail grove]

Two victories

[trail grove]

Nice

[trail grove]

Me brazilian

[meager ore]

Nice

[keen brook]

I have the worst engine as well but my team is leading.

Aero and chassis are 3rd and 4th best, don't know which one is 3rd best.

And durability is 3rd or 4th worst.

[lyric scaffold]

I made it to Q2 Already

[keen brook]

So my team is the 4th best and Ocon has 0 points.😭

[lyric scaffold]

Samaia was close to Q2 but had to make a sacrifice

[lyric scaffold]

F

[keen brook]

His best result was 13th.

It was China or Netherlands, aren't sure.

And Mercedes does a lot wrong in 2nd season, they're only 3rd or 4th in constructors with the best car.

And they perform like they're the best.

[pearl smelt]

Is F1 2021 crows play?

Crossplay

[trail grove]

No

[pearl smelt]

F

Anyone got it for Xbox?

[keen brook]

only between PS4 and PS5 and between Xbox One and Xbox Series X

[trail grove]

Yeah I'm procuring co op career and I found a teammate but he is PC
Example

[keen brook]

I'll buy it in 1 or 2 months and I have one already for co-op.

with same native language

[trail grove]

My teammate of co op career is off

[crimson tangle]

Congrats @trail grove, you're now on lap 5

[trail grove]

Co op in Ferrari

I'm p20 in first race

He p5

[keen brook]

Ferrari? Road to Glory or what?😂

[trail grove]

Road to glory

[lyric scaffold]

I'm starting in 16th in my first race Samaia 17th

[trail grove]

i just want to play f1 2021 co op career

[pearl smelt]

Anyone want to do co op in Xbox

I am intermediate at the game

[lyric scaffold]

I'm doing Renault road to glory

[trail grove]

Im procuring co op career
Ps4
Dificulty your choose
Race 25% or 50%
Quali short or full no one shot

[lyric scaffold]

So I'm hoping to qualify 6th-4th for the dutch GP

and get a podium potentially

Since this car is definitely podium material

[uneven quiver]

Why did codemasters removed settings from loading screen?

[trail grove]

I don't know

[uneven quiver]

And my teammate just fuckin pitted 4 times...

[pearl smelt]

Anyone play in Xbox?

[rich socket]

Anyone wanna get into Games vc to give me some tips?

[lyric scaffold]

just as I wanted
time to hopefully follow Ricciardo to a 2-3 Renault finish

[pearl smelt]

Wait so PC and Xbox players can’t play together?

[uneven quiver]

Nope

[keen brook]

Only PS4 players can play together with PS5 players and xbox one players can play together with Xbox Series X players and the other way round. That's it.

[pearl smelt]

Damn 😦 time to make new friends

[lyric scaffold]

NVM Ricciardo got grid penalty
well I'm still in good position 4 podium

[trail grove]

You brazilian

?

[uneven quiver]

Yes

[trail grove]

Opaaa

Achei um br

Finalmente

[uneven quiver]

Digo o mesmo

Acho que só vi um outro br aqui

[trail grove]

Kkkkk

[keen brook]

What?

[lyric scaffold]

HOW DID I WIN AGAIN
I did a nice 3 car overtake at the start
Then did a legit, fair overtake on verstappen

Ok I'm turning the AI up

Going from 95 to 97

Renault is a top team now.
Renault is a top team now.

[trail grove]

Im procuring co op career
Ps4
Dificulty your choose
Race 25% or 50%
Quali short or full no one shot

[lyric scaffold]

We get it m8

damn I'm getting good

either that or Renault's car literally is THE perfect one for my style

[fervent vigil]

Only 5 laps race distance?

It's funny having full qualifying for only 5 laps lol

[keen brook]

Me doing 100% races: What's this?😂

[lyric scaffold]

lol
I do 5 laps for when I just wanna do it quickly
I do 25% usually for China, Austria, the ones I like

[fervent vigil]

Like.... China

[lyric scaffold]

I'm surprisingly good at china lately

[keen brook]

I like China as well tbh, last race there I dominated with light rain from the beginning till the end.

[fervent vigil]

The middle sector always screws me

[keen brook]

I gain more in the 1st and 3rd sector than I lose in the 2nd.

[trail grove]

Im procuring co op career
Ps4
Dificulty your choose
Race 25% or 50%

Quali short or full no one shot

[fervent vigil]

🆗 🆒

[mystic zephyr]

Just finished braking point

Man that was fun

[fervent vigil]

My most unexpected hated track is Suzuka. Idk why, I just don't vibe with that track

[keen brook]

You are not alone.

[fervent vigil]

Well... ik why and it's also why I hate USA

[mystic zephyr]

Same here

And Canada

I hate it

[fervent vigil]

Canada on strict corner cutting I'd hate too. But on regular it's fine

[keen brook]

I'm careful with the word hate but now after 6 races without a win I now really hate it.

[fervent vigil]

The entire first sector is so hard, and the exit under the bridge the ai get stupid traction

[trail grove]

Cabrao

[fervent vigil]

Same with the exit to the first DRS zone in Canada, they just get stupid traction there

[lyric scaffold]

I'm good on first sector, the rest I'm absolutely trash

[keen brook]

And my 1st race in Suzuka in F1 2017 I was so close to a win but then Bottas tried to overtake me in the 1st corner and hit my front right tyre with his rear left tyre, my race was over.

[fervent vigil]

I'm shocking there. I ran an increased downforce set up and I still couldn't do the esses ||don't mind the butcher of spelling|| well

[keen brook]

And that was in lap 52 of 53.

[lyric scaffold]

I'm good at Australia through the sheer amount of times I have driven it because I only had the demos.

[fervent vigil]

You're good at tracks I suck at lmao

The last 2 corners in Australia I always lose like 2-3 tenths

[keen brook]

My best tracks are France, Singapore, Monza, Austria, Bahrain, USA and China.

[trail grove]

Im procuring co op career
Ps4
Dificulty your choose
Race 25% or 50%

Quali short or full no one shot

[fervent vigil]

If I don't bin it in the castle section I'm actually unstoppable at Baku

[trail grove]

Cabrao

[keen brook]

Oh, I forgot Baku.

[fervent vigil]

It just seems the player is often good at power heavy tracks

Or at least tracks with long ass straights

[lyric scaffold]

I'm good with high down force, high speed tracks
Or low downforce high top speed

[keen brook]

Yeah, I'm really good on the fast tracks.

[lyric scaffold]

My worst tracks are Monaco and Hungaroring

[uneven quiver]

My best tracks are: Every track... in terms of spinning

[keen brook]

Oh, I think I forgot Canada as well.

[fervent vigil]

Everyone's worst track is Monaco

[trail grove]

Cabraooooooou

[keen brook]

no, it's Suzuka

[fervent vigil]

Suzuka I can at least finish

[keen brook]

Monaco is my 2nd worst.

[lyric scaffold]

The first sector of suzuka, and 130R are good.
the rest is trash

[uneven quiver]

I guess my best track is Bahrein or Austria

[lyric scaffold]

My only DNF in F1 2020 was at Hungary.

[pearl smelt]

Monaco with rain is just toxic 🤡

[keen brook]

I can it as well but mostly out of the points.

[fervent vigil]

City tracks with rain is just toxic

[uneven quiver]

Do you guys play Monaco GP?

[keen brook]

and with 3 or 4 spins and 3 or 4 pit stops.

[uneven quiver]

I just simulate it or abandon the session

Lol

[keen brook]

That's pure fun.

[fervent vigil]

I usally just sim. Which never works out

[pearl smelt]

Lmaoo it’s a literal slip and slide

[keen brook]

of course

[uneven quiver]

I can just finish it on a wheel

[fervent vigil]

I qualified P3 and somehow ended up p11

[keen brook]

If you don't you'll never become better there.

[fervent vigil]

And then the season b4 Sainz went from p20 to p1

[uneven quiver]

I wish i could improve my skills

[pearl smelt]

YouTube is your friend

[fervent vigil]

The hairpin is the only turn really screwing me over

[fervent vigil]

I'd more say just doing it is a better friend

[keen brook]

As I bought my 1st F1 game, F1 2016, the 1st thing I've done is going on Grand Prix and doing a 100% race in Monaco.

[pearl smelt]

Racing in the rain is the best way to go pro 🤡

Plz don’t hurt me

[keen brook]

Why, rain is nice.

[fervent vigil]

I wanted to do Singapore but it was a wet race and I just cba lol

[uneven quiver]

I just can't turn any assist off (except manual gearbox)

[pearl smelt]

Tokyo drift

[fervent vigil]

Same with Suzuka

[keen brook]

That's my only hope.

And I never had there rain.

That's my only chance for success in Suzuka.

[fervent vigil]

Wet race I'm going max downforce or I'm not making it through sector 1

[keen brook]

Me always using the more top speed setup.😂

[pearl smelt]

Just pull that e brake

[keen brook]

even in rain

[fervent vigil]

Madlad

[uneven quiver]

I don't make setups, just don't know nothing about it

[keen brook]

same

[uneven quiver]

I just steal them from youtube

[fervent vigil]

Runs max speed, 1 1 wings at Monaco

[uneven quiver]

Or use the default

[keen brook]

I just use the default ones.

[fervent vigil]

I just go from the in game base set ups and change the wings and tyre pressure

[keen brook]

And nearly always the more top speed one.

even in Monaco

[lyric scaffold]

I use basically default, save for making front wing downforce low, and rear wing downforce high.

[keen brook]

Because the most important thing in the race is overtaking.

[fervent vigil]

In Monaco it's just finishing

[keen brook]

And you need top speed to overtake.

[lyric scaffold]

When it's chaos, keeping your nose clean does wonders

[pearl smelt]

The last 2 turns in Spain kill me

[fervent vigil]

I can't even imagine anything but the lowest downforce setting for Monaco

[lyric scaffold]

I'ma go more risky on wear so I get less grid penalties

[fervent vigil]

Other street circuits I can maybe make it happen but no shot at Monaco

[keen brook]

That's where the top speed setup is for.

[lyric scaffold]

I do full 11/11 at Monaco
otherwise I'm actual shit at it

[keen brook]

I had monsoon rain in Singapore, from 22nd to 5th.

[pearl smelt]

I can’t race in the cockpit to save my life

[lyric scaffold]

I race with TV view

[pearl smelt]

Same

[keen brook]

It's the most realistic one and it makes fun as well.

[fervent vigil]

In Abu Dhabi it's understandable, but Monaco

[uneven quiver]

I just use it when on a wheel, on controller i just use TV camera

[keen brook]

Gives you the opportunity to overtake into the tunnel chicane.

[pearl smelt]

How do you fade out that split in the middle of your cockpit lol

[fervent vigil]

I'd just qualify third and make my car wider than Alonso at Silverstone

[keen brook]

That's with controller btw.

[lyric scaffold]

heres me doing a casual lap
https://youtu.be/zb18Anw20tM

[keen brook]

You get used to it with the time, it's normal for me now.

[lyric scaffold]

With controller

[pearl smelt]

This guy is super funny btw https://youtu.be/EEwJPwzCZDg

[fervent vigil]

At least none of us are chase cam plebs

[keen brook]

Which assists do you use? I use only the automatic gear and the obvious one you can see in the video.

[pearl smelt]

Even though I still don’t know many of the references because I’m new to the sport

[fervent vigil]

I had an hiatus from F1 from like 2017 to 2019, I just randomly watched the last few laps of the 2019 Brazilian GP and that Hamilton vs Gasly and Albon moment got me rehooked

[lyric scaffold]

I use Medium brakes, no TCS
or low brakes, full TCS

[keen brook]

and like me ideal line only in corners

[pearl smelt]

Btw anyone pre order the game from GameStop?

[fervent vigil]

It's only the corners that matters tho, the straights ideal line won't tell you anything

[keen brook]

You have a YouTube channel?

[normal magnet]

but do you use 3d or 2d

[keen brook]

3d

[lyric scaffold]

For me, I got recommended a highlights compilation of the 2019 hockenheim GP
I said why not
and haven't looked back

[lyric scaffold]

3D

[keen brook]

2d looks stupid.

[fervent vigil]

So even if you run full racing line you get not much more info than using just corners

[lyric scaffold]

It's mainly random stuff. but yes

Guiherme 6th I in 9th

Let's Fucking Goo

[fervent vigil]

Didn't even know there was a different setting

[keen brook]

That's why I switched it in 2018 or 2019 to corners only.

[normal halo]

What difficulty

[lyric scaffold]

The best picture of All time

[keen brook]

Mine is only my 2020 My Team career, and just highlights because 100% races are too long for a Let's Play.

[trail grove]

90

[lyric scaffold]

take as much curb as possible exiting the chicane
then just accelerate, moderately using the curb on the final turn, then use as much curb on the final exit as you can, and boom

[fervent vigil]

I'd be interested to see if I take off the racing line assist, how far off I'd be from the racing line at some tracks, especially with the newer tracks like Portimao and Imola coming

[lyric scaffold]

I use the racing line as a benchmark reminder

[keen brook]

I'm then far away from the track itself.😂

[normal magnet]

im shite without racing line

[keen brook]

It was so as I tried it.

[lyric scaffold]

I'd be kinda on it, but alot slower

[keen brook]

But I drove then with 80 AI, now with 91.

[fervent vigil]

You'd think some tracks like Monza and Austria would just be muscle memory

[keen brook]

And then come the Lesmos.

[fervent vigil]

I drive with 100 *
The asterisk means you half it if you take away flashbacks

[lyric scaffold]

My difficulty is at 101 for F1 2021

[keen brook]

I've never used them.

Only in F1 2016 with 0 AI I used flashbacks but then never again.

[fervent vigil]

TBF tho F1 20 was my first F1 game and my first racing game in like forever

So racing at 100 even with flashbacks for my first proper racing game in forever is a dub in my books

[keen brook]

Because so I reached the point that I've accepted that I'm out of the race in Austria at the beginning of lap 2 crashing into the Safety Car.

[normal halo]

I drive with 70 :(

[fervent vigil]

I use a lot of flashbacks at the start

Cause I just want to get moves done cleanly

[lyric scaffold]

F

[keen brook]

But sometimes I really restart the race because I'm then so frustrated.

[fervent vigil]

Sometimes I restart quali because I missed my final run by 3 seconds

[keen brook]

But on the other hand I want realism and 1 year ago it was like OK, I crashed, shit happens.
Now I'm just thinking no, restart the race.

I don't know why.

But Abu Dhabi I won just because of a lap 1 crash on the other hand so it's really weird.

[fervent vigil]

I wish they had the same system as Fifa tbh, there you have to buy your ability to restart matches (not with real money for once)

[normal halo]

Ive only restarted on Monaco and then in China because it was raining in one of the practice and I wanted to test some setups so i kept restarting the dry practice session

Man fuck Monaco

[keen brook]

So I was hit in the back by Pérez and that took me on a lot better strategy with stopping in the 1st lap swapping from the Softs to the Mediums and then just 1 pit stop more instead of 3.

[lyric scaffold]

I do a strategy where I usually go on the time in-between the banker laps, and the final ones.
A tradeoff of rubbered in track, and clean air

[fervent vigil]

The original strat was 3 pit stops

[keen brook]

100% race and yes it was.

[fervent vigil]

Damn

[keen brook]

because of starting on the Softs

[fervent vigil]

Canada is the only track ik that a 3 stop would actually work at

In a 100% race only

[lyric scaffold]

I tried battling with the Ferraris and Alpha Tauris while Samaia was asserting his 6th

[keen brook]

It was Soft, Soft, Soft, Medium but because of the lap 1 crash it was then, Soft, Medium, Medium with the Soft just 1 lap.

[lyric scaffold]

I was kinda slow in Bahrain somehow

[keen brook]

And I won the race just because of that.

[fervent vigil]

Could you not have done soft medium medium

That surely has to be faster

[normal halo]

WTF
I cleanly kept getting 1:20's in Q1 and Q2 and now in Q3, I've done 2 runs and got 1:21 twice

[keen brook]

I did it then.😂

[lyric scaffold]

F

[fervent vigil]

Yeah but soft medium medium from the start

[lyric scaffold]

Different track temperatures?

[keen brook]

It even worked with the Softs just 1 lap so.

I drove 54 laps with 2 sets of Mediums.

[fervent vigil]

Man this new Discord update sucks

[keen brook]

But it wasn't the only track I had 3 stop in the USA as well.

[fervent vigil]

Anyways, Canada is the only track where more stops = faster race I think

[keen brook]

And that was an epic battle with Hamilton.

[fervent vigil]

3 stops just seem so wild to me

[keen brook]

And Hamilton did the same.

And all the others instead of Norris.

[fervent vigil]

100% races are wacky it seems

[keen brook]

He was the only one doing 2 stop and was 3rd in the end.

with a whole pit stop behind me and Lewis

But Mercedes destroyed the battle at the 3rd pit stop.

Because Hamilton came 3 or 4 laps later in.

The 1st pit stop we were both in at the same lap, the 2nd one Lewis just one lap later.

It was really a 30 lap battle, one mistake from me and Lewis passed me.

[fervent vigil]

Seemed at least exciting

[keen brook]

It was so much fun.

Then Norris in 3rd 30 seconds behind.😂

Me and Lewis have lapped half the field.

Every blue flag could've been the end if they're doing shit.

But at the end Mercedes brought Lewis too late in for the 3rd stop and I won with 3 or 4 seconds in front of Lewis.

and fastest lap

But it was really pushing like hell, tyre management, what's that?😂

[normal halo]

I've been blue flagged twice in Monaco cuz I got spun by Latifi

Then i just crashed and decided to retire 😂

[lyric scaffold]

Welp

[keen brook]

But I definitely need to turn up the AI again for season 3, I lapped the whole field in China.

[normal halo]

Man I never sorry about tyre management 😂

[keen brook]

Turning up the AI from 90 to 91 for 2nd season wasn't enough.

[normal halo]

I'm still only on my 1st season

[keen brook]

I won all races in season 2 instead of Hanoi, there I was only 6th because Leclerc pushed me into the wall on the long straight.

[normal halo]

Round 14

[keen brook]

But it was only 5 races so.

Next race is Spain.

one of my badder tracks

[normal halo]

I've been fucking carrying McLaren this entire season

Fucking Lando is doing nothing

Oh Spain is one of my favorites

Top 5

[lyric scaffold]

That's the next race I'm heading too

[keen brook]

My team is leading the championship with Ocon having 0 points.

[normal halo]

Tho I'm somewhat bad on it (tho it was raining) Netherlands is my favorite

[lyric scaffold]

No Portamao and no Imola

[keen brook]

After now winning there I like Zandvoort tbh.

[normal halo]

Me in F2 😂
But i had my difficulty low and kept progressively turning it up to see where I was

[keen brook]

But the sad thing is that our car is the 4th best so Ocon normally should be on P8.

[lyric scaffold]

F

[keen brook]

5th best so P10

So he normally due to car performance should have 5 points.

4 because of a DNF in Australia.

[normal halo]

Pole on Monza

Should be easy enough

Tho i fucking struggle so much in turn 1 and 2

[lyric scaffold]

brake a little earlier than racing line tells you, and then do the normal left right flick, then accelerate

[keen brook]

I forgot that Racing Point is now a top team in my career as well and now in 2nd season not just 2nd in R&D.

[fervent vigil]

Same here, I moved to McLaren from Red Bull who were comfortably first. Like we're talking early 2010s Red Bull. Little to my knowledge McLaren got rid of Norris and Sainz and I got stuck with Ghiotto. Only for him to be dropped for Matsushita. And they've gotten a combined 15 points

Meanwhile I'm 3rd in the championship with 180 points

[keen brook]

Pérez was the last 3 races 3rd.

[lyric scaffold]

I carried my team in the first 2 seasons

[keen brook]

In 1st season Racing Point was already 2nd in R&D but performing like a mid field team.

[fervent vigil]

Sainz also had 4 DNFs in a row in this season I'm in now. Got me above both Mercs

[keen brook]

And Ferrari isn't OP anymore in 2nd season.

but Ricciardo

[normal halo]

Lap 3, man I think it's time to turn up my difficulty
4 seconds ahead already 2nd place

[lyric scaffold]

Yeaj

[keen brook]

6th in quali with the 4th worst car

[fervent vigil]

I don't get why, but it feels your teammates never deliver on the package they have

[normal halo]

Tho I've been battling RB and Merc the past few races at the same level

[celest viper]

aaaahhhhh im trying to make a livery on photoshop but its being shitty and its not working

[normal halo]

Probably just a one-off with how easy Monza is

[fervent vigil]

Like if you're not comfortably first your teammate rarely gets his minimum position

[lyric scaffold]

Russell was bad for me in s3
then became nice in S4
sometimes drivers need to orientate

[normal halo]

Those battles always getting ruined because of my horrible strategy and stopping late not giving me enough time to overtake the people who have already pitted

[lyric scaffold]

Although verstappen in season 5 myteam BEAT me, and is tougher than ever in S6

[fervent vigil]

But they never really challenge you like rival ai does. Even if rival ai have worse cars

[celest viper]

does anyone here actually know how to make a livery on f1 2021

on photoshop

[lyric scaffold]

Verstappen has been VERY heavily challenging me in S6, and won against me in S5

[fervent vigil]

Verstappen was my closest teammate battle yet. Went into the final race with 8 point difference. He had 2 DNFs I had 1

I won the final race to really extend it a bit

But if we both had flawless seasons who knows

Also battled me hard the season b4, but then he had a few retirements and I just pulled away. Had an incredible battle at Spa

[normal halo]

2.9 pitstop
Come on McLaren, do fucking better

https://youtu.be/pgJxmXCCmN8

[hidden rune]

Why is it soo hard to drive on spa right now

I can’t even find a proper setup anymore

[wooden mural]

false vs true reflections

one impacts performance to all hell, the other doesn't

[mystic zephyr]

Can someone tell me why car performance is equal in my coop career?

And how can I change it

[wooden mural]

in a racing game, i guess it makes sense for them to go with low ish quality ray tracing

yes that's literally what i said

lul

[celest viper]

can anyone please show me how to make a myteam livery on photoshop cos ive watched so many videos and they have things that i dont so its really hard for me

they have some grid thing for the 3d model and their model updates when they make a change, mine doesnt. when i change the colour of something it doesnt change and even if it does it will only be faint

yeah

this is what im looking at

[hidden rune]

Thats 2D of an 3D model

You can’t move it right

?

[celest viper]

i can orbit and stuff

i watched a tom97 video and it had a download ill find the site

yeah

where should i get a 3d one

[lyric scaffold]

The Raytracing Almost looks the same to the non Ray Tracing
.
Only difference is the tires reflection and the rain

[celest viper]

it is selected but nothing

do i need to make a vanidhing point grid

this is hella confusing

[crimson tangle]

Congrats @celest viper, you're now on lap 5

[normal halo]

Bro I thought Spa was gonna be hard 😂

Let me send u my setup

https://realsport101.com/f1/f1-2020-singapore-grand-prix-wet-setup-guide-career-my-team-time-trial-alonso-renault-vettel-raikkonnen-ferrari-verstappen-hamilton-wings-inters-intermediate-tyres-conditions-brakes-suspension-se

This has a little more downforce to account for both dry and wet weather

I chose this cuz my race is gonna be wet

Wait no nvm 😭

I was thinking Spa was in Signapore 😭

I forgot my setup for Belgium

I generally use realsport101.com for my setups

[celest viper]

oh i give up on making a livery its too complcated and photoshop is peing a piece of shit

[hidden rune]

Yeah it is

But i got used to it so its not the worst

Also

Hmmm yess P15 when driving behind P20 in the formation lap

[normal halo]

Yeah I was thinking of signapore 😭

[hidden rune]

Lmaoo😂

[normal halo]

I struggle with the 2nd and 3rd turn
Because I'm used to flicking the joystick

Then on turn 7, you have to get the braking point so perfect and it's annoying

[misty plover]

make sure you stay off the kerbs

[normal halo]

If not, you go so fucking wide

[misty plover]

they are really nasty

[normal halo]

I just go over the curb (on 2020)

Idk how Spa is in 2021 with the kerbs

[misty plover]

on f1 2021 kerb=death

[normal magnet]

yes

[normal halo]

Yeah I've seen 😂

[normal magnet]

avoid kerbs at all costs

[misty plover]

monza is actually really hard now

ascari is a nightmare

[normal halo]

Which I need to do cuz my last EC, I fucking killed it cuz I took so much kerb

[normal magnet]

I’m actually alright with Monza

[normal halo]

Which track is that or is that a turn in Monza

[misty plover]

the chicane at the end of the 2nd drs zone

[hidden rune]

This game is really doing well

[misty plover]

the one that you could corner cut

[hidden rune]

Schumacher is not even with our formation lap

[misty plover]

maybe he had a puncture

or had to pit

[hidden rune]

Formation lap

[normal halo]

😂

[misty plover]

b r u h

[normal halo]

I remember in F2 in F1, I'd just go full racing on formation lap 😂

Without realizing what it actually was or without trying to warm up tyres or saving my tyres

Man I hate F1 for now making me unironically saying tyres instead of tires as an American 😂 (by location)

[misty plover]

also in f1 2021 the tires just fall off a cliff

you have got to be good at managing tires

[slender mesa]

what difficulty would u guys reccomend for breaking point

[ripe venture]

If a select a driver academy in f1 2021 i can go to other equips or no?

[leaden river]

ok question about f1 2020

can you unlock more pitcoins

or have i been really stupid and spent all of mine on stuff that i havent used in ages

[keen brook]

without spending money no

[leaden river]

fuck

[misty plover]

its not a coincidence EA partnered with codemasters

[leaden river]

im talking about f1 2020

[misty plover]

i know

[leaden river]

the the ea is f1 2021

[misty plover]

but ea saw codies with the podium pass last year and thought they wanted some micro-transaction action too

[leaden river]

last minute i became sad

looked up what the reward for the podium pass prestige things are

its just badges

[celest viper]

is someone here please just able to help me on photoshop make a livery for myteam cos all the videos ive watched are completely different to mine cos i have absolutely no idea what im doing

[misty plover]

f

[misty plover]

im on xbox so no

[leaden river]

im legally retarded so no

i cant even put a livery mod into my game without messing up

like i tried putting a vodafone mclaren livery

[celest viper]

ive literally been trying all day

[leaden river]

yeah i messed up

[misty plover]

im worried for next years game

if the kerbs are this bad then with the ground effects next year its gonna be an instant spin

because the game mechanic works on floor downforce

[leaden river]

i mean f1 2020 also had instant death curbs

[normal magnet]

they might alter it again

[leaden river]

like that curb at bahrain

that just murders you

[misty plover]

but they werent at every track

monza is actually really difficult on this years game

like ascari is instant death

[normal magnet]

codies are good at listening

[misty plover]

i like the new kerbs

its a nice challenge

[normal magnet]

if they see that people hate the kerbs they’ll change it

yes of course

i like the kerbs

[misty plover]

i know it sounds like i hate the kerbs but i dont

[normal magnet]

just a little annoying when you span on the same one about 3 times

[misty plover]

im just pointing out the challenge of them

[normal magnet]

of course

[leaden river]

[misty plover]

yep, happened to me

[normal magnet]

which one?

[keen brook]

That's why I love street circuits. That one was bold but it worked.

[misty plover]

just dont touch that kerb on the inside

[misty plover]

fictional f1 track

[leaden river]

but it feels fast when you get it right

[normal magnet]

i touch that every time

haven’t span yet

[misty plover]

its actually faster to go wider beleive it or not

[leaden river]

now thats a track i hate

[obsidian lava]

Yes, I just wanted to know whether we can change the color scheme or not before I bought it

[keen brook]

I like Hanoi tbh.

[normal magnet]

is anybody else finding it easier to catch the car whilst losing the rear, and also it seems easier to drive in the wet

[leaden river]

truee but it feels faster to be on the edge of death curb™️

[misty plover]

hanoi sector 3 is pog

i really like it

as for the rest of the track its shit

understeer city

[trail grove]

Co op career ps4

[misty plover]

sorry im on xbox

[normal magnet]

PC

[celest viper]

im on pc

[keen brook]

PS4 but still playing F1 2020.

[leaden river]

am i a monster?

[normal magnet]

depends

[leaden river]

i made my f1 2020 page into a mess

[normal magnet]

nah you should be fiiiine

[pearl smelt]

anyone know a good place to find teammates for f1 2021

[leaden river]

anyone know how to take this turn quickly

[normal magnet]

track?

[leaden river]

bahrain

[normal magnet]

is that the turn into the back DRS straight?

[lyric scaffold]

Idek if it's possible

[hidden rune]

Make sure that you get your car straight into the braking zone

[lyric scaffold]

Turn 10 is pretty hard

[normal magnet]

it is possible

[hidden rune]

So that you can take a good exit

[normal magnet]

you just gotta carry enough momentum

[keen brook]

here

[hidden rune]

Anyways

[leaden river]

tbh the only way i have found to not ruin all speed is by going fuck it and going 2 miles wide to keep speed

[lyric scaffold]

I'd rather Brake at the high speed kink to the hairpin then. Trailbrake

[normal magnet]

I just lock up and roll with it

[keen brook]

Slow in, fast out, that's how motorsport works.

[hidden rune]

I think I had my best race yet in this career mode with alpine. Lost a wing of a stupid action and even spun at Eau Rouge but still managed to get P14

[leaden river]

ok hear me out on this, fast in hit the barrier rewind, fast in slow down a lil then fast out

[rich socket]

Are steamkeys for 2021 legit?

[normal magnet]

just trial and error

[rich socket]

When I see them online I mean

[normal magnet]

see what speed you can carry

[leaden river]

im gonna try going wide in

[normal magnet]

not a bad idea

[leaden river]

try hitting the inside apex on the exit

and then see if my exit has speed from the going wide

[rich socket]

What circuit and corner we talkin

[hidden rune]

Bahrain

[normal magnet]

bahrain turn 10

[rich socket]

The nasty double apex hairpin?

Ah yes

[leaden river]

nasty is an understatement

[rich socket]

Lol

I just send it as wide as possible and take all the komentum and most of the times I just come out in front and have the better exit

That

Don't mind the entry line

[normal magnet]

see i go way narrower

I hug the kerbs

[rich socket]

Oh damn

Wouldn't that be way slower

[normal magnet]

probabaly

[rich socket]

What I do i basically move the hairpin and make it a wide exit right?

It makes sense in my head but idk how to transfer into text lolol

[leaden river]

so treating it like a smaller version of the last turn at monza

[rich socket]

Yeah

Basically yeh

Btw I'm talking f1 2018 game so idk if any physics are different in this case

[normal magnet]

oh yea

[rich socket]

Kinda am too poor to buy 2021 lmao

[leaden river]

i got f1 2020 a few weeks ago when it was £13

[rich socket]

Damn

[normal magnet]

i got f1 2021

but 2020 i’ve played enough of that

If you’ve got ABS off I recommend just slowly increasing brakes down into that turn

just feather them

[mortal sedge]

I have yet to get a blown tire in f1 2021, is it a setting

[normal magnet]

nope

well

what race distance are you on?

[mortal sedge]

Mostly run 25 but I saw someone eles had one in multiplayer from a crash

Off the start

[normal magnet]

oh yeah that happens if you get tapped hard enough

with simulation or increased damage

[mortal sedge]

Ok

[normal halo]

Me going into Signapore doing the track acclimation programme thinking Signapore would be easy and ending FP1 +1.4s off first place
🤡

[normal magnet]

fuck singapore

[rich socket]

Yes

But fuck monaco more

[leaden river]

but fuck vietnam more

[lyric scaffold]

All 3 Tracks I can tolerate

[normal magnet]

Monaco is a no

[lyric scaffold]

Monaco not so much

[normal magnet]

I can’t do a lap without touching a barrier

[lyric scaffold]

Skinny Track

[normal magnet]

it’s not made for modern cars

[lyric scaffold]

Right

Very outdated track when the 2017 regs came in

[normal magnet]

too wide

yeah

[lyric scaffold]

And it's nearly impossible to overtake

We all would've seen one between Gasly and Vettel until

[normal magnet]

we all got strolled

[lyric scaffold]

Yes, Millions of People saw this image

Monaco in the F1 Game it's so Possible to overtake that it shouldn't be possibe

Remember Codies Widen the track back in the 2016 or 2017 Game.

[normal magnet]

not a bad idea

[lyric scaffold]

True

Is Aston Martin considered a Mid Field team in the game

Yeah

Good because I don't want to race with a top team in carrer mode

But For some reason they're the 3rd fastest team in the F1 2021 Game. For now

Fack

They should be the 5th or 6th Fastest Car in Real life.

[normal magnet]

AlphaTauri is a good choice

[lyric scaffold]

Theres also Williams

Verstappen slower than me

[normal magnet]

Road to glory

[trail grove]

Co op ps4 team you choose
Ps4ps4

[lyric scaffold]

Man's desperate

[normal magnet]

mate, if you keep asking people aren’t going to

[lyric scaffold]

How is Russell faster than Verstappen

F1 Game Logic

Maybe Verstappen has an Issue

Idk it's FP1

Or something

[lyric scaffold]

Ah Yes Free Practice

You gonna see a lot of one of those then

Earlier In my first MyTeam Race in F1 2021 I got double points.

Faster than Bottas

Samaia 6th
I in 9th

[lyric scaffold]

Is he in different tires?

No lmao

He is on mediums

Nvm Verstappen on hards

That's why Verstappen and Bobbas were slower

Different Tires

Tsunoda on softs

Anyway

And Samaia got Driver of The Day 😎

Who is Samaia

I pushed Latifi into the pits

Lewis Slower

Same tires

[pulsar chasm]

ohhh

Multiplayer career?

[lyric scaffold]

1 Second omg

[lyric scaffold]

Guilherme Samaia greatest F2 Driver of All Time
.
He was Drugovich's Teammate Last Year and Now Beckmann's Teammate this year

Ah

I see

[pulsar chasm]

ohhhh

[lyric scaffold]

Yes

We were both doing a one stop after starting in 17th and 16th

Hamilton bloody Retired in Lap 3

And one Time we were both in 6th and 7th after doing the one stop but I didn't had the pace so I let Samaia assert his 6th Place. And I fended off the Ferraris and Alpha Tauris

Okay this is better

1. Me
2. Vettel

Hamilton actually retires

Hamilton ahead now

Oh Yeah Bottas got screwed over too so neither of Mercedes Boys didn't even got any points. Didn't make it to Q3 Either because he was on Mediums

Mercedes masterblan

Failed really badly

And Mazepin didn't crashed in turn two so

😎

Jeff really called me too slow

Breh

Mazepin p2

Mazepin to merc confirmed

Good

1:32 George beat him by 2 seconds

I'm going to do Spain Next it's one of my stronger tracks

I'm doing Bahrain started a new carrer

Neat

Your doing an Aston Martin Career mode?

Yeah

Planing on moving to RB or Merc

Hmm. Try Winning the championship with an Aston Martin

Make Red Bull and Mercedes be Scared

Lmao

I'm starting Q1 rn

Alrighty then

Wtf

1 sec faster than ham

Sped up the timer into q2

[lyric scaffold]

I made A mistake for his first season he was teammate to Jack Aitken not Felipe Drugovich

Oh

Jack is still good ngl

Yeah he is

I got Parc ferme so I'm going to be slow

HWA racelab = very bad Ending

I wanna play F1 2020 unranked

I'ma get on, and create a lobby

[lyric scaffold]

Be warned about some dirty drivers then

I'm on Xbox

SkyeRAcer9070

Into Q3

P10

Emma really got pissed wtf

[trail grove]

Co OP career ps4 someone

[lyric scaffold]

You must be very desperate smh

[pearl smelt]

Can anyone teach me how to race at Monaco before I rip my hair off lol

[normal magnet]

don’t hit the walls, practice practice practice

[clear eagle]

ok so whats the recommended difficulty for braking point

i raced with ai set to 101 at all circuits in

2020

[lyric scaffold]

Hard

The ai are too easy

[clear eagle]

ah damn

cool ty

[deep siren]

how do i use/ activate development boost? after completing practice drill when in GP practices ?

[lyric scaffold]

Before Pitstop
Me. P5
Vettel. P6

[lyric scaffold]

After

Me P5
Vetted P6

[trail grove]

Vettel*

[lyric scaffold]

Ok?

Mr Desperate

[graceful tartan]

Matsushita pole 😂😂

Strategy masterclass

[lyric scaffold]

wtf

[normal magnet]

wait

[lyric scaffold]

Normal AI IS LIKE -5 in braking point

[normal magnet]

you ran softs whilst everyone else ran inters

my brain

[trail grove]

What plataform

[pulsar chasm]

It doesnt matter anymore

[misty plover]

why the fuck do i have to drive sochi in braking point

i thought i could escape it

[lyric scaffold]

Spoilers 👀

[wild elm]

bro u spoiled it

[cunning bough]

at least dont say what happens

[wild elm]

loll

[misty plover]

i didnt say any plot twists i just said you drive at sochi

[lyric scaffold]

Spain race was eh

Very Accurate

Spain without the S

[wild elm]

bruh u spoiled it

[clear eagle]

my game is a bit choppy

[lyric scaffold]

Wut

[wild elm]

yo same

yea the graphics are a bit....weird

[clear eagle]

despite 1920 x whatever, it feels like 720

[wild elm]

ikr

me too

[misty plover]

my game is fine and im on a 7 year old xbox one

[clear eagle]

whats ur graphic card

[wild elm]

i turned off motion blur but that doens't help

[lyric scaffold]

No I'm talking about my team career mode not Braking Point you Braking Point

[clear eagle]

nah it didnt

[wild elm]

lmao wat im on the one s

[wild elm]

yeah ik

me too

braking point is somehwat better

[clear eagle]

ah ok ok. im on pc. so if its on xbox

itll be fixed ig

[wild elm]

maybe

[misty plover]

i dont really car about graphics, i just care about gameplay mostly

[clear eagle]

eventually

[lyric scaffold]

It was OK. I've already completed it

[clear eagle]

yeah but it affects the quality

[wild elm]

but gameplay sucks without good quality

[clear eagle]

i do have some lag

[wild elm]

wat

[misty plover]

[wild elm]

already?

[clear eagle]

which wasnt there with f1 2020 tbh

[lyric scaffold]

Yes Yesterday

[wild elm]

how many chapters are there?

[misty plover]

im on 13

[wild elm]

no i meant in total @lyric scaffold

[lyric scaffold]

😳

[wild elm]

this guy broken

[lyric scaffold]

Yes I am I am in my

||Braking Point||

||Shit Joke||

I didn't want to spoil how many chapters are there here

Don't want to spoil anything

All I could say blame it on Aiden Jackson

[misty plover]

||i want to punch devon butler so hard||

[lyric scaffold]

devon is alright

[misty plover]

no hes not

[pearl smelt]

https://whendidmazepinspin.com

[lyric scaffold]

Devon is a twat

[lyric scaffold]

a decent twat

I forgot Devon was in Braking point

Never was a big story with him

[runic coyote]

Have u finished it?

[lyric scaffold]

yeah devon was just

there

[runic coyote]

The way he did things was sly

And Casper was a fool for believing Devon😂

[lyric scaffold]

He never stood a chance with him

He tried to stop them from singeing him

Anything for the star driver

[quartz tangle]

I hope they continue Braking Point next year

They probably will given how they continued The Journey in FIFA

[hollow zenith]

mister worldwide

[inner crow]

remember no russian flag

[lyric scaffold]

Ma ma Mazepin

Mr Worldwode Mr 305

[misty plover]

just finished braking point

ohhh boy

[graceful tartan]

I finished 10 seasons of my team in f1 2020

😭😭 goodbye noah Mercedes

[whole cliff]

Danm so you won the drivers championship every single year

[graceful tartan]

Yes

[whole cliff]

How is that even possible in MyTeam

[graceful tartan]

At the 1st szn the ai was so slow

In 2nd season i turned it up by like 30-40%

But i still manage to win somehow

Imma start a new driver career before i buy f1 2021

[mystic zephyr]

How many races per season

[graceful tartan]

In the 1st until 4th szn it was full calendar

But since szn 5 i use a shortened calendar

[mystic zephyr]

Damn

[worthy fiber]

Finished Braking point

now just waiting for f1 2022 to see ||aiden at mercedes ?|| 👀

[ionic timber]

😳

[worthy fiber]

and waiting for 2022 to see ||russel at merc.|| 👀

[lyric scaffold]

i have 3 driver career saves I'm gonna do
one is my Renault road to glory (midfield)
one is my Haas (backmarker)
one will be for a top team start

[celest viper]

aaahhhhh ive made a helmet in photoshop now i cant put it in ego erp archiver

[keen brook]

Red Bull try to beat Mercedes?

[lyric scaffold]

they should put the russian flag bruh wtf

it's disrespectful to the drivers

I'd be annoyed if something like that happened to me

[clear eagle]

Fuck f121 is hard

I am quick but losing the rear on power

[vital forum]

Idk y its banned although there is a gp in russia aswell

[lyric scaffold]

yeah and that too

[keen brook]

Yeah, it is, but it's because of the olympia doping thing.

[lyric scaffold]

of the what

[keen brook]

The olympic games in Sochi there was a doping scandal with a lot of Russian athletes.

That's the reason why Russians aren't allowed in a world championship to compete under the Russian flag.

[lyric scaffold]

ohh

it's funny how the Haas literally has the russian flag on their car

[keen brook]

That's why there were a lot of discussions about the legality of the Haas livery.

[lyric scaffold]

oh okay

i get it now thanks

[keen brook]

No problem!🙂

[lyric scaffold]

what flag is mazepin racing under tho

[keen brook]

The RAF flag.

[lyric scaffold]

like if he magically got on a podium

what flag is gonna be displayed

[keen brook]

Russian athletic federation

[lyric scaffold]

oh aight

[keen brook]

But tbh that's really stupid.

Penalising athletes who weren't part of that scandal isn't fair.

But that's how life is.

[lyric scaffold]

they didn't really penalize him but i understand why he'd want to race under his actual flag

i personally would

[keen brook]

Btw in F2 and F3 it's allowed because they're a championship and not a world championship.

just stupid

[lyric scaffold]

that's a bit dumb

if that happened to me I'd be really pissed

racing for yourself is something but racing for your country is another thing

[keen brook]

Yeah, seeing Shwartzman in F2 and Smolyar in F3 on the podium with the Russian flag and anthem and as a Russian F1 driver just this RAF flag and I think no anthem is not the best feeling.

[lyric scaffold]

true

like if i won a race or a championship I want to be able to hold my country's flag

[keen brook]

and that scandal was 2014 I think

So that's now 7 years ago.

[lyric scaffold]

oh cmon

that's stupid

[keen brook]

exactly

[weak veldt]

state sponsored doping that happened for multiple years

[celest viper]

does anyone want to do a 2p career on pc with me?

[clear eagle]

I'm in. But I'm nowhere in F1 rn

Losing the rear

A lot

I don't want to play with traction on. But f it's hard

It'll take me a week or so to get up to speed

Ig

Man the kerbs

The fucking kerbs are killing me

[celest viper]

i feel that if you play online and know that there are no flashbacks then you will feel more comfortable and less under pressure

[clear eagle]

I'll be more vigilant haha

[celest viper]

when i first turned tc off i was dogshit but i went to an online lobby and i was zooming

[clear eagle]

I don't have traction on

I don't want it on

I have brake assist on

I use controller

So I spin crazy without assists

[celest viper]

wait you use no tc on controller? tha6t must be hard

[keen brook]

It's not if you get used to.

[clear eagle]

Not in 20

Car seems more alive and visceral with traction off

[keen brook]

And it's more realistic.

[runic coyote]

The handling is beautiful

It's so fun to drive

[river linden]

It's pretty easy after you practice as long as you feel the vibrations

[tardy sand]

very good formation lap effective heating

[runic coyote]

Did u spin or smthg

[lyric scaffold]

i reckon he did donuts

but his engine temp is 92 C

[ionic timber]

Just had my craziest race yet

On f1 2021

5 dnfs and i didnt cause any of the crashes

The ai are crazy

[hidden rune]

Yeah I had the same yesterday

I was racing in Zandvoort and it started raining and Ricciardo spun and Stroll just crashed into him and then 2 mechanical failures and 2 bots had to pit to change wing

[remote lagoon]

is f1 2021 available through ea play?

[ocean bolt]

i think so

[lyric scaffold]

Yes?

Assuming because it's published by EA

[high topaz]

Did anyone get penalty

[light pagoda]

if hamilton walk away wit no penalty im callin fraud

[high topaz]

Lol

He didn’t

[lyric scaffold]

in my first race of f1 2021, when I start @ back
first thing I do, I punt mazepin out

[tardy sand]

tried recreating the crash

[ionic timber]

Verstappen now in AM

Hamilton RB

[trail grove]

Co op ps4 or 5
Difficulty you choose
Contracts

[pearl smelt]

Co op Xbox

[leaden river]

[leaden trellis]

Is the COOP career cross platform?

[granite stream]

Afaik no

[mighty moss]

Anyone interested in doing a co op career? US-East, PS4, I’ll race with any AI difficulty

Pm 🙂

[mortal sedge]

anyone else run f1 2021 with a fanatec f1 wheel and the wheel jerks on the start of a hot lap

or like a flying lap

[drifting grove]

no i'm broke